PSP Slim Redesign

[PyroGamer]

Just announced.

TV output, better battery.

33% lighter (wonder if it will be light enough, PSP now is damn heavy, IMO)

Comes in multiple colours.

$200

[Hibiwa]

Saw it on G4. What a load of meh.

I would hardly call "ice silver" and the limited Star Wars Battlefront white with Vader in black much of a color choice -- which btw are part of their push with new PSP Entertainment Packs.

The new ent pack will be 199.99 in September and comes with a 1GB MSPD stick, Daxter , and Family Guy Freak'n Sweet Collection UMD.

Not too bad, but not as evolutionary as the rumor discussion in the other thread.

[Teqonix]

How.. Underwhelming.

[Thunderscope]

Just the fact it has a TV Output makes it a must buy for me, it's about time someone made a portable that can be played on your home tv.

[usickenme]

Actually I am glad. This means I can happily keep my PSP with feeling like a need the new one.

TV out is cool, I guess. But I got a PSP so I could play console-leveling gaming while my wife watches TV. I have other systems for the big screen experience.

[dragonreborn23]

OMG! I am all over this. Hey, it might not be everything you could want, but it will definately motivate me to finally buy one and just in time for FFTactics remake!

[Hibiwa]

Video output has never been a feature I care to have. I'm playing a portable system so it can be played whenever and wherever without needing to hook it up to the TV.

It's good for some I guess, but it seemed silly that Sony highlighted the sharing of photos. Um, yeah... leave the mem stick in your camera and hook that up to the TV if you really want to share. At least with that you can also snap photos too, unlike the PSP.

[primetime]

Probably the best news out of this announcement is that we can stop talking about the freaking rumors all over the net.

[Zmonkay]

I've wanted TV out since the original Game Boy (couldn't convince the parents to buy me a Super Gameboy adaptor for the SNES). Only problem I see could be resolution. These games are designed for a widescreen, but tiny as hell portable screen. Expand them to a TV....jaggy. Case in point: The GTA Stories games on PS2. Not horrible looking, but look much better on PSP (or at least the expectations for a PSP game aren't that high).

[Strell]

It already has TV-out.

It's called a PS2.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN

[ecmazza]

advantage of tv out is that i could hopefully hook up to a tv when traveling, i.e. hotel, etc, i doubt i would use the feature much at home.

also, i wonder if they could not just add that feature to the current psp via firmware update? looked like the cable just plugged into the headphone/com jack??

also, what is the price for the black redesign?

internal memory would have been nice, but if the price is good, the d-pad is a little better, and i can get a reasonable trade for my current psp, i may take the jump.

[RAMSTORIA]

tv out is a nice feature, but the 200 dollar price just kills this. nintendo didnt release the dsl for 150, why would sony jack the price up again. stupid stupid stupid.

[jkam]

Some good upgrades...not sure I need the new one though.

[trq]

nintendo didnt release the dsl for 150, why would sony jack the price up again. stupid stupid stupid.

Actually, the DS Lite launched at $129.99.

Anyway, it's all down to the battery. If the improvement is substantial, I'm in. If it's still too short to take on anything more than my work commute, pass.

[thingsfallnapart]

tv out is a nice feature, but the 200 dollar price just kills this. nintendo didnt release the dsl for 150, why would sony jack the price up again. stupid stupid stupid.

Your rite, how stupid to be in business to make a profit or at least break even. Never considered the practice to be very ethical.

[racthamp]

Will the PSP output in HD using the TV out? ;)

[dragonreborn23]

tv out is a nice feature, but the 200 dollar price just kills this. nintendo didnt release the dsl for 150, why would sony jack the price up again. stupid stupid stupid.

Not necessarily. I'm a cheapassgamer, and I've been against the PSP for quite awhile. Now, with these new features, I'm going to buy one. I'm willing to spend a little extra for the features that probably should have been worked out before they launched the system. I'm sure their are quite a few gamers like me who are very excited about this and will be ready to buy one when they are released this fall. smart, smart, smart ;)

[RelentlessRolento]

TV output and sped up UMD loading are pluses. Hoepfully it will melt away some of the annoying loading issues with the system.

[Hibiwa]

Two Benjis is for the Entertainment Pack. They didn't really address just buying the updated PSP by itself.

It may be that the revision/new color is only available as a bundle. Sucks if you already have a mem stick, Daxter, and FG UMD. Still cheaper than buying separately for just the 169.99 handheld. Sell the rest.

[RAMSTORIA]

Actually, the DS Lite launched at $129.99.


i know...

Your rite, how stupid to be in business to make a profit or at least break even. Never considered the practice to be very ethical.

were talking about a portable market where sony is already getting their ass handed to them in sales. they are willing to drop the price of the ps3 100 dollars, but not willing to maintain their current price for the psp. cmon.

Not necessarily. I'm a cheapassgamer, and I've been against the PSP for quite awhile. Now, with these new features, I'm going to buy one. I'm willing to spend a little extra for the features that probably should have been worked out before they launched the system. I'm sure their are quite a few gamers like me who are very excited about this and will be ready to buy one when they are released this fall. smart, smart, smart ;)

uhhh what? if youre a cag how can you be excited about these minimal improvments and a price hike?

[jkam]

TV output? How will this be handled? Through a cable? Sold separately? Will you need a PS3 to do this?

[catapult37]

uhhh what? if youre a cag how can you be excited about these minimal improvments and a price hike?

I agree with this guy.

At the very least, they should have swapped the location of the d-pad and analog stick.

[JediBaja]

I wish they did something more with the Star Wars themed PSP. I'm a huge SW fan, but that ice silver one looks so sweet. And still no on board memory or second analog :cry: .

The way one can stream things from your PC thru the PS3 and onto the PSP and then onto a TV is crazy!

[davidjinfla]

I remember months ago there was a thread about PSP upgrades and I said a video out because that was what all my customers asked about. I would like to see if the screen is still LCD and how much longer the battery life last. Not to wild about the entertainment pack but that is just for the holiday I supose. Wonder how much the cable will cost and what kind of output options there are?

[RAMSTORIA]

I take back what I said about the price as the OP didnt mention this...

Two bundles were announced for the new portable for North America. The first, titled "The PSP entertainment pack for North America," includes the silver PSP, a copy of the Daxter game, a 1GB memory stick Duo, and a Family Guy collection UMD. The second is the new Star Wars Battlefront PSP pack, which will include the Star Wars: Battlefront Renegade Squadron game and the special Star Wars PSP. Both will cost $199.99.

I will say, that I don't want a bundle either, hopefully they will sell the redesign on its own right out of the gate.

[RelentlessRolento]

I hope the d-pad is fixed.

[Purkeynator]

hmm no info on psp video camera or gps?

[dragonreborn23]

uhhh what? if youre a cag how can you be excited about these minimal improvments and a price hike?


I'm saying that I was put off by the steep $250 price tag when the system initially launched. As time went on I became discouraged with the problems that plagued the system so I decided to wait for a redesign. I wouldn't mind paying $200 for just this new system. Fortunately for me, they are also including a 1gig mem stick, Daxter, and Family Guy umd. This is certainly enough to justify the $200 in my opinion.

[vherub]

Doing the math
system 170 + daxter 20 + 1gb 30 + family guy 20
that is 240 worth of stuff for 199, but those are list prices and while someone might pay that price, you or I would not.
170 psp + 1gb 15 + family guy 15 + daxter 20
which is 220, most of that savings being the 1gb card. Maybe 210 if you shop hard.

If you already have a psp, the extras are probably not appealing nor worth $30.

But if sony went $170 for slimpsp and 1gb memory. That would be a decent deal.

It will be very interesting to see how homebrew handles this schism. The video output on the gp2x is a great feature.

[dallow]

New video (non E3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_ku9nmA8U

The new PSP is a sleeker and more streamlined version of the popular original PSP system. It is 33 percent lighter and 19 percent slimmer than the current version, making the all-in-one mobile entertainment system even more convenient to carry around at less than 1/2-pound in weight and less than 3/4-inch in thickness. The new PSP system will also have a thinner, more efficient battery, 64MB of system memory and video-out capabilities allowing consumers to enjoy their games at 480 x 272 resolution and movies at full standard-definition resolution on any progressive scan TV.


Also, new PSP is equipped with enhanced feature to temporarily store game data from UMD, reducing load time during game play(*3).

[dallow]

Things of note:

-UMD slot is less complex, pull to open
-Face buttons are visibly raised and easier to hit.
-Memory Card slot has changed somewhat.
-Wifi switch is now on top, presumably the wifi unit is behind the screen now. Helpful since the old unit would heat up your hands after heavy use!
-Battery is now 1200maH, a 1000 less than the older unit. Sony are promising better battery life?
-PSP can now accept power charge directly through the USB port.
-Battery cover features a new mechanism to open it.
-Infrared port removed.
-Hold switch is on the left side, seperated from the power switch

[RelentlessRolento]

nice, I like it alot so far... glad to see them playing tekken as well :)

[dallow]

http://www.t3.co.uk/__data/assets/fp_auto_layout_image/813226/psp-lite-04.jpg

Hands on:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/sonys-thinner-lighter-psp-hands-on/

.

[RelentlessRolento]

news? yep

http://blog.us.playstation.com/

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1001/778949161_228ad0ecf2.jpg

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[RelentlessRolento]

I want info on the d-pad eventually...

[The Mana Knight]

I am sooooooooo buying this thing. Problem is that I already own Daxter, but oh well, the new PSP looks too sweet to miss out. I was going to get a Wii, but it looks like I'm buying a new PSP instead. I can't wait for this thing.

I still want a better D-pad, but oh well.

[RelentlessRolento]

I am sooooooooo buying this thing. Problem is that I already own Daxter, but oh well, the new PSP looks too sweet to miss out. I was going to get a Wii, but it looks like I'm buying a new PSP instead. I can't wait for this thing.

I still want a better D-pad, but oh well.


just get the piano black one. The d-pad looks better already, but I need actual impressions now...

[mtxbass1]

I'll be buying one of these when it comes out now.

[dallow]

I'd go with a Wii over the PSP.
Especially if you already have the older PSP.

[hiccupleftovers]

And it continues to suck... even on a redesign the Sony/the PSP fail. :(

[JediBaja]

Seems like the speakers have been moved to the top of the PSP above the d-pad and control buttons...hmm

[Rocko]

As a big DS fan, I've had my eye on the PSP for a while now, due to the cheap games and great graphics for a handheld. This redesign has pushed me over the edge, and I'll definitely be buying one of the $200 bundles sometime this year.

[rvdrock]

Was the deal with the component output on there...I'm just checking, no way this outputs in HD, right?

[RelentlessRolento]

And it continues to suck... even on a redesign the Sony/the PSP fail. :(


personally it kicks alot of the homeconsoles ass... the games are actually worth it and there's a wide variety of game types... plus sometimes I prefer lower end graphics over next gen stuff.

[RAMSTORIA]

Was the deal with the component output on there...I'm just checking, no way this outputs in HD, right?

it does HD, which is nice. hopefully you wont need a ps3...

[apokalipze2]

Not the redesign I was hoping for but I'll probably still pick it up

[Skelah]

wow there just going for a double dip im keeping my psp .

All the outcry about a second stick they threw some colors on added some useless features who cares about it being slightly smaller its not worth buying a new one.

[RelentlessRolento]

d-pad is ultimate determining factor for me. that will show if I will get one or not.

[rvdrock]

Well I have a PS3, so this might be worth it to me...

[argyle]

I told a friend of mine recently that tv output would be the feature that would make me buy a second psp.


.....damn Sony. :-P

It should work out pretty well anyway - keep the old psp w/ hacked firmware, keep the new one legit. They'll probably be doing some ps3 game tie-in stuff soon anyway, and I'm sure you'll have to be running legit firmware for anything like that.

[TheMadMonk]

I'll stick with my old version. I just got it about one month ago, and this new version doesn't really add or fix anything I dislike about the original.

[SL4IN]

if all sony is offering with this redesign is a longer battery (which IMO, the battery on psp right now is fine), different colors (which I could really care less about) and a smaller design (again, I could really care less) then the extra money doesn't warrant it for me. my current psp is fine and I'm completely happy with it. I would only recommend this if DON'T already own a psp.

[RelentlessRolento]

I modded my PSP a long while back and realized I didn't like what I had done (fixed d-pad, but it was worse) so I hav eit together again. There's some fuzz dust (a black gunk thing on edge of internal screen) that I can't get off from the inside of it and I've been waiting for a redisign so I can pick up a nice brand new one.

[The Mana Knight]

PSP is near perfect IMO and didn't need many adjustments.
d-pad is ultimate determining factor for me. that will show if I will get one or not.It looks fixed to me, because I noticed it sticks out more, when comparing it to my PSP.

PSP new
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPNEWA.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSP-Videoout-porta.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSP-battery-comprtmnta.jpg

PSP old
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPOLDA.jpg

PSP silver
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPSilverA.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPSilverA.jpg

PSP White
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPWHITEA.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPWHITEA.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSP-group%20shota.jpg

Got the pics from PSU (http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=84279)

[Thomas96]

So now the PSP games are going to be in HD? Or can they be in HD?

[RelentlessRolento]

looks like the analog nub is larger as well and less out... more flat, which is a good thing.

[Swift900]

i need more money.

[OnyxPrimal]

I told a friend of mine recently that tv output would be the feature that would make me buy a second psp.


.....damn Sony. :-P

It should work out pretty well anyway - keep the old psp w/ hacked firmware, keep the new one legit. They'll probably be doing some ps3 game tie-in stuff soon anyway, and I'm sure you'll have to be running legit firmware for anything like that.

Same here. Wife wants the new one for the TV out. She likes playing the PSP but not for long periods of time. She'd rather look at the TV screen. Now she'll finally play Valkyrie Profile.

[nonggame]

I only have one question. Does the new PSP-P use the same old batt. ? ^__^

[Foo228]

I love the looks of the Daxter bundle...I just wish it didn't include Daxter tho (already beat the game on a friends psp)

To be honest, I couldn't tell the differences between the old psp and new psp...it doesn't look slimmer, but I bet once I see side by side stuff I'll be proved wrong

Man, does that "ice" silver look nice..

[The Mana Knight]

I love the looks of the Daxter bundle...I just wish it didn't include Daxter tho (already beat the game on a friends psp)

To be honest, I couldn't tell the differences between the old psp and new psp...it doesn't look slimmer, but I bet once I see side by side stuff I'll be proved wrong

Man, does that "ice" silver look nice..That's my problem too, since I already own Daxter. Since I only have a 512MB memory stick, I'm going to go ahead and buy the Daxter bundle. IMO, memory stick, silver PSP, Family Guy UMD (I like the show btw) for only $30 more?? I'll buy that instead.

[Foo228]

Hopefully they give us more options in these coming months...like a God of War themed psp haha

[Rocko]

I'm somewhat disappointed that the bundle will only be the silver PSP, but for such a good value as a first-timer to the system it's hard to pass up. I'd really like to see a black bundle though.

[hhhdx4]

I want the Daxter pack, but I want the white PSP :(

[davidjinfla]

Do you think that the improved PSP load times for this new model will be significantly better on games like Midnight Club and WWE Raw vs Smackdown?

[Foo228]

...and I thought the silver one looked amazing :-k

[Foo228]

Do you think that the improved PSP load times for this new model will be significantly better on games like Midnight Club and WWE Raw vs Smackdown?

For some reason, I think it'll only improve it "slightly"

[Decker]

So they lost the IR port? I've had a PSP for two years and had no idea it even HAD an IR port. What was it for? Ad-hoc?

I got my first PSP from Costco. It died after 1 1/2 years and returned it and got a different bundle in Feb. Looks like that one will be going back as well once the new unit is out. Star Wars bundle for me, most likely.

[primetime]

So they lost the IR port? I've had a PSP for two years and had no idea it even HAD an IR port. What was it for? Ad-hoc?



Picture transfer and HB remote apps. Now you see why they took it out.

[hhhdx4]

so is there a date on this thing? I want it NOW :(

[GizmoGC]

Gets a big 'ehh' from me. I was really hoping for something that was redesigned more like the DS Lite....but this is still OK. Raised buttons, TV out gets a big thumbs up from me. I wonder how much Sony will rape us for the cables? Will there be Composite, S-Video, Component?

I will have to make a decision if I was the Silver or wait for the White one. The Star Wars theme does nothing for me, but a white PSP would be cool.

[cochesecochese]

This is definitely interesting. Let's hear some new game announcements now.

[GizmoGC]

Picture transfer and HB remote apps. Now you see why they took it out.

Wait...it has an IR port? I remember the GBC had one too...that was useful :roll:

[RAMSTORIA]

after seeing chewbacca at the sony conference i wish there was a chewbacca themed psp, id buy that day 1.

So now the PSP games are going to be in HD? Or can they be in HD?

they wont be high definition, they will just maintain their aspect ratio with no letter box

[Masterkyo]

I careless the bundles deal. Just gimme PSP itself for $149.99 (I don't care the Family Guy UMD, Daxter, Star Wars or 1 gig).

[NamPaehc]

Do you think this (the TV out) will bring the UMD back from the "Grave"? Turns the PSP into a compact, portable DVD player pretty much.

[RelentlessRolento]

Do you think this (the TV out) will bring the UMD back from the "Grave"? Turns the PSP into a compact, portable DVD player pretty much.


I just like it that I can play games on the TV. I think they decided to do so since they did surveys that showed feedback that most PSP users just stay home to play their games. I'm in the minority where I play 50/50 in and out.

[jer7583]

Meh. Minimal redesign. I dont' have an HDtv so the tv out is kinda dumb (no widescreen) and the other additions don't make me regret my $100 PSP I bought with the 1GB stick. 3.40oe doesn't hurt either.

[Thomas96]

Do you think this (the TV out) will bring the UMD back from the "Grave"? Turns the PSP into a compact, portable DVD player pretty much.


No.. but downloadable movies will be great. Oh well, better get that 4gb pro duo card.

[Decker]

I wonder what 64 MB of memory will do? Save your wifi settings. Will that be enough for game saves as well?

[dallow]

if all sony is offering with this redesign is a longer battery (which IMO, the battery on psp right now is fine), different colors (which I could really care less about) and a smaller design (again, I could really care less) then the extra money doesn't warrant it for me. my current psp is fine and I'm completely happy with it. I would only recommend this if DON'T already own a psp.Did you not even try to read the thread and actually see what's different about it?

it does HD, which is nice. hopefully you wont need a ps3... No, it's not HD.

Meh. Minimal redesign. I dont' have an HDtv so the tv out is kinda dumb (no widescreen) and the other additions don't make me regret my $100 PSP I bought with the 1GB stick. 3.40oe doesn't hurt either. No, you don't need an HDTV to play (or even widescreen), why would you think so?

[The Dord]

The Silver one looks sexy and less prone to smudges on the finish...

[MusicNoteLess]

I wonder what 64 MB of memory will do? Save your wifi settings. Will that be enough for game saves as well?

That looks like a potential to hack the psp.

[dallow]

The 64mb internal is nice for the casual folks who don't want to save to a mem card.
That's plenty space for game saves.

[Rocko]

The 64mb internal is nice for the casual folks who don't want to save to a mem card.
That's plenty space for game saves.

Approximately how large is a save file for a PSP game?

[Aleryn]

I really like how they simplified the UMD mechanics. What I'm waiting for though is battery tests.

I think the idea is laughable, but if it somehow could do 10 hours... ooo tempting.

Prolly gonna be more like 6-8 hours TOPS though. Cool they revamped it... just spoiled by the transformation of the DS into the DS Lite.

[NamPaehc]

Approximately how large is a save file for a PSP game?

Very tiny. Less then 100KB usually.

[nectarsis1]

I to am waiting for battery life #'s, plus if they will bring out bigger batteries like the original....Plus, has anyone even seen how/where on the unit TV out is located?? Some ideas are good (64 mem), yet where is the GPS, and a better than the Japanese 1.3 megapixel camera? ...and where are all the great direct to PSP downloadable PS1 games?? Is the d-pad actually redesigned or just raised more..ala the nub?

[mrblinG22]

oo i would like it in white but ehh.. i was really hoping for the 8gb internal memory

[io]

Even though I almost never play my PSP I have to admit I'm very tempted by the Star Wars Battlefront bundle. That's a game I'd probably pick up anyway (please oh please let it be excellent 'cause then the decision would be made!). So I'd be getting the white Vader PSP for normal PSP pricing... I wish it was the silver one though (like everyone else I already have Daxter though - and a 1GB memory stick).

Hmmm... I do have that Neopets game and my daughter is interested in that. I could give her my old PSP :mrgreen:.

[Merboy007]

I really like the white one (i've wanted a psp in white since day 1) but do they all come with that stupid Star Wars image in the back???

[furyk]

I'll get it. The battery life is really all I cared about. My PSP will be traded in for a new PSP soon.

[jer7583]

I wasn't implying you needed an HDTV or widescreen for the TV out, I just think it'd be kind of pointless to play it on my TV with big black bars. Especially when I'm just using a small 20" sdtv. Certainly doesn't make me enthusaistic for the feature. Now if I had a widescreen tv, it'd be different.

Does anyone else worry that this thinner, flatter back design might be even harder to hold than the old PSP? At least with those small bumps you have some grip.

[FurryCurry]

Works for me. I'll be trading up this fall.

And here's your hands on by Kotaku.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/hands-on/psp-slim-277554.php

Slimmer, lighter and with a decent D-pad. The redesign is long overdue and slightly underdone. There are no major revisions, but simply a series of tweaks: the Wi-Fi switch has been moved to the portable's top and the speakers are above the buttons and the D-pad. The D-pad itself does get a proper rehaul and finally feels like, well, a D-pad. It's incredibly responsive and not mushy like the current iteration. The casing gets spiffed up with a coat of DS Lite style gloss. This is a needed revision — would've been nice to see it months ago.

[dallow]

I wasn't implying you needed an HDTV or widescreen for the TV out, I just think it'd be kind of pointless to play it on my TV with big black bars. Especially when I'm just using a small 20" sdtv. Certainly doesn't make me enthusaistic for the feature. Now if I had a widescreen tv, it'd be different.

Haha, I don't think I would be ethusiastic about playing any videogame on a 20" screen.
Yeah, time to upgrade my friend, even if it isn't an HDtv.

[slidecage]

tv out is a nice feature, but the 200 dollar price just kills this. nintendo didnt release the dsl for 150, why would sony jack the price up again. stupid stupid stupid.


how did they jack up the price??? i thought someone said you get

system
1 gb memory
dexter
and a umd movie

system 169
1gb 20
game 10
movie 10

so they didnt jack up the system they just tossed in a bunch of crap

[Wolfpup]

IMO this and the PS3 price drops were the only real E3 worthy announcements made this year.

That Daxter bundle is a steal...except I just bought Daxter last week! DOH! :lol: Even still the system itself is worth that without the (actually useful!) extras. A good game, good UMD, and actually useful 1GB Memory Stick is a great bundle.

The Vader pack...cool idea, except I don't want Vader on my Playstation! If it was Obi Wan, I'd have to have it, but I don't want that feeble minded bad guy on my system.

The hardware...not sure about the redesigned UMD drive. The current version works really well. Can't believe they got it 20% thinner :shock: And the battery is 600 MAH smaller, though the hardware might be more power efficient (I've never had any power issues-or load speed issues for that matter though).

Video out is really cool, assuming it does games too. I already buy anything I can on the PSP over the PS2, but this is the final nail in the coffin, when I can even play my PSP games on the big screen if I want!

I think I like white the best, so maybe I won't be able to get a bundle, since I guess the Daxter one is silver? :(

Bad-I guess the brightness wasn't increased? The DS Lite is brighter now, and I'd have liked a little boost on the PSP too. Also a second analog stick would be cool, though people seem to forget that two analog sticks weren't standard until late 2000 with the launch of the PS2, and games did just fine without them. Those people also haven't played Syphon Filter...

I hope the d-pad is fixed.

I've seen a few of you mention that, but what was wrong with it? It's already the best d-pad that's ever been put on a portable, and it's better than the 360's pad. The only current system with a better pad is the PS3/PS2.

And it continues to suck... even on a redesign the Sony/the PSP fail. :(

It's not "failing" now, so I seriously doubt a nifty redesign and cool bundles are going to hurt it. The PSP outsells the 360, Wii, and Playstation 3, and outsold the DS until the Lite's release. It might be in second place for the handhelds, but it's still selling strong.

Was the deal with the component output on there...I'm just checking, no way this outputs in HD, right?

I'd guess it can output in 480p. Obviously even if it was outputing in HD, it would just be scaling it up (versus your TV doing it).

personally it kicks alot of the homeconsoles ass... the games are actually worth it and there's a wide variety of game types... plus sometimes I prefer lower end graphics over next gen stuff.

Yeah, I think it's a great system, and has a completely undeserved bad wrap around here. It's been my main system the past couple of years (followed probably by the DS).

Approximately how large is a save file for a PSP game?

Roughly the same as a Playstation 2 save file. I have dozens of saves on my original 32MB Memory Stick, and plus you can always just connect it to your computer to back up save files if you wanted to (or just use a Memory Stick for more space).

[nectarsis1]

has anyone comfirmed the 64 mb internal memory...or is it a guess?

[Ivanhoe]

200 is a little steep.
They really just need to release the system by it self for 149 or with a 1gig mem card for 159.

[Kendro]

I'm more than a little bit disappointed that they didn't go with a matte black (it looks so awesome in pics (http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a15123/SCEA/PSPNEWA.jpg)) but the silver one looks really nice so I'm definitely picking up that one. The revamped D-pad and the slimmer size and weight have finally pushed me over the edge. Plus I won't feel so shitty about picking up a few UMD movies because of the TV-out.

[GizmoGC]

200 is a little steep.
They really just need to release the system by it self for 149 or with a 1gig mem card for 159.

$200 is for one of the two bundles. A black one will be available for $169.99.

[ananag112]

TV out is a great feature. I am considering getting this as well. The PSP Battlefront pack looks very nice.

[Wolfpup]

BTW, video out DOES work with games too, not just video :)

[daroga]

Why is there video out on the new PSP? Why would I ever want to be tethered to the TV with my handheld vs. just playing a real console game?

Part of the PSP's novelty was have portable console-quality games. Now they just want you to jack it into the TV too? It really is a PS2 now, only more cumbersome.

On the plus side, I have zero temptation to get the "new and shiny." :)

[Swift900]

Why is there video out on the new PSP? Why would I ever want to be tethered to the TV with my handheld vs. just playing a real console game?

Part of the PSP's novelty was have portable console-quality games. Now they just want you to jack it into the TV too? It really is a PS2 now, only more cumbersome.

On the plus side, I have zero temptation to get the "new and shiny." :)

I'm right there with you, daroga... and I really can't express my feelings towards this new feature better than you already have. IMO, the only nice thing about this video out, is the fact you can now watch UMD movies on a TV.

Overall, I think the redesign is nice, but it's not something that screams-out-loud, "buy me!" like the DS Lite did last year.

[dallow]

has anyone comfirmed the 64 mb internal memory...or is it a guess?The Sony press release I posted confirmed it.

[dallow]

Why is there video out on the new PSP? Why would I ever want to be tethered to the TV with my handheld vs. just playing a real console game?

Part of the PSP's novelty was have portable console-quality games. Now they just want you to jack it into the TV too? It really is a PS2 now, only more cumbersome.

On the plus side, I have zero temptation to get the "new and shiny." :)

Same reason they made various GB players for your consoles.
People want to play on their TV if it's convenient.

And if you have a lot of shows, movies, you can always take it to a friends and watch on the TV.

I didn't think ANYONE would criticize that feature.

[Wolfpup]

And I don't see any reason to choose a so called "real" game on the PS2 when I can get the same thing that can be played portably or now even on the big screen (although I really don't care about that much-since you're close to it, the screen size difference isn't a big deal).

[daroga]

Same reason they made various GB players for your consoles.
People want to play on their TV if it's convenient.

And if you have a lot of shows, movies, you can always take it to a friends and watch on the TV.

I didn't think ANYONE would criticize that feature.There's a marked difference between something that you plug your handheld games into on a home console and jacking your handheld into the TV. An adapter for the PS2 or PS3 that plays UMDs? Great! That would be really slick. Having to plug my PSP into the TV and use what is already a medicore control input with a wire between myself and the TV? Not so good. Especially in an age when everything is wireless, this is going backwards.

The money spent developing this "feature" should've been used to develop more quality games for the system.

[primetime]

Same reason they made various GB players for your consoles.
People want to play on their TV if it's convenient.

And if you have a lot of shows, movies, you can always take it to a friends and watch on the TV.

I didn't think ANYONE would criticize that feature.

That was what I was wondering in all this... people seemed to be cool towards the GB player. Is this not similar?

And it's just a hunch, but I don't think Sony somehow stalled game development to redesign the PSP :roll: I could be wrong though.

[Hibiwa]

What I'd like to know is whether the 1st gen PSP is going to be clearanced out by stores to make room for the updated PSP and by how much.

I can't imagine the current model is going to sell well now for general consumers when the minty fresh Sept. one is around the corner if they basically cost the same. That is unless Sony won't sell a standalone until the oldies are all gone.

The PSP I have now doesn't bother me much except for the wayward pixels and sucky battery. In fact I like the sturdy feel and matte black back. It's better looking with the rumble strip detailing at the top and love handle grip bumps than the all-flat blandness that will replace it.

So if the currents come down in price enough, I may get another of those just so I can go Dark without a care to upgrade.

[dallow]

The money spent developing this "feature" should've been used to develop more quality games for the system.Oh c'mon! This was nothing to them. You have video outs on everything, I am honestly shocked the original didn't have it.

Of course the connection to the TV isn't wireless.
A wireless audio and video connection is a dream at this point.
The option for this is great.

[munch]

That was what I was wondering in all this... people seemed to be cool towards the GB player. Is this not similar?

And it's just a hunch, but I don't think Sony somehow stalled game development to redesign the PSP :roll: I could be wrong though.

There's a huge difference between plugging in a PSP with a wire into a television and putting a cart into your GCN and using a controller. If the PSP did this wirelessly somehow it would be amazing. So would being able to put UMDs into the PS3. This is just kind of weird IMO.

[Kendro]

The TV-out is great feature for portable use, not for sitting at home and playing PSP games on your TV. If I'm at a hotel and don't want to spend the outrageous $10 per movie or $8 per hour to use their outdated SNES console, this is a great feature. It doesn't make or break the new PSP, it is just a nice extra to have that adds no cost to the price of the PSP. I can see it being a negative if the PSP was raised $30, but it isn't.

[primetime]

There's a huge difference between plugging in a PSP with a wire into a television and putting a cart into your GCN and using a controller. If the PSP did this wirelessly somehow it would be amazing. So would being able to put UMDs into the PS3. This is just kind of weird IMO.

What's the point of using a controller if it has the same function?
And, if I assume correctly, it would be more convenient to plug the PSP in and be able to unplug it if you need to run than be stuck with the cart in the GC. I fail to see the huge difference...

I suppose for people with older TVs that don't have easily accessible AV inputs it could be more cumbersome. Taking this factor out of account, I don't see a huge difference.

[The Mana Knight]

200 is a little steep.
They really just need to release the system by it self for 149 or with a 1gig mem card for 159.Why is that too expensive? The DS Lite is severely underpowered and costs only $40 less. The sitatuation is, if you don't want all that crap, just buy a core for $170. If you want a 1GB memory stick, Daxter, and Family Guy, then $200 is a steal.

IMO, $200 for the Daxter bundle is a steal. Even if it didn't have the contents, I'd still pay $200 for the color silver (no joke). As for the Star Wars bundle, you're already saving $10.

I will repeat this again, the PSP price was NOT raised at all. The core PSP slim will be $170, if you don't want that extra stuff. Why do people fucking have to assume the most expensive SKU is the ONLY price?????

[dallow]

Don't bring the DS Lite into this Mana, you're going to stir up something.

(DS Lite is awesome by the way)

[elwood731]

I can see a lot of value in the TV-out feature. First of all, it is now basically even more like an iPod, with portable audio/video that can be outputted to a TV. So, that's a plus. Second, while traveling it would be very nice to be able to play PSP games on a big screen, because I certainly wouldn't lug a PS2 or PS3 around with me. Third, it's even nice at home. Honestly, I don't play my DS all that much on the road since I don't travel nearly as much as I used to. I play it a lot of times just lying on the couch. The games are fun and I would gladly play many of them on a TV...if I could. Why do I care if there's a wire? I played with wires since the dawn of gaming. It's nice to not have them, but it won't kill me either. Well, maybe if the TV falls into water...but otherwise.

[dallow]

I play my DS with a wire connected to my audio receiver.
Then play with the stereo sound matrixed to all six speakers.

At home of course.

Remember those GC games that you had to connect your GBA to?
I didn't mind then either.

[nectarsis1]

Imagine the faster umd drive will be on ultra slow games like Spectral Souls............mmmmmmmmmmm

[Kendro]

Are you sure there is a faster UMD drive? I'm pretty sure Kaz Hirai only stated there would be faster loading. Also reports on other message boards state that the new PSP will have an extra 32 MB (totalling 64 MB) of internal memory so that will be used to cache the games, thus leading to shorter loads.

[Tom Ato]

Are you sure there is a faster UMD drive? I'm pretty sure Kaz Hirai only stated there would be faster loading. Also reports on other message boards state that the new PSP will have an extra 32 MB of internal memory so that will be used to cache the games, thus leading to shorter loads.

It'd be nice if you could just rip the entire UMD to the mem stick like you can with some of the hacks. Of course pirating could be a problem but surely Sony could find a way to stop (limit) it.

[dragonreborn23]

Why is there video out on the new PSP? Why would I ever want to be tethered to the TV with my handheld vs. just playing a real console game?

Part of the PSP's novelty was have portable console-quality games. Now they just want you to jack it into the TV too? It really is a PS2 now, only more cumbersome.

On the plus side, I have zero temptation to get the "new and shiny." :)

Actually the tv feature is for people like me. I am certainly buying one in a few months, and being able to play exclusive psp games on my tv is a huge selling point. I don't ever travel so buying a portable device has always been a difficult decision. I really want to play some of the great exclusive games for PSP and DS. Having the option to play these great games on my tv is a great feature to include.

[nectarsis1]

Are you sure there is a faster UMD drive? I'm pretty sure Kaz Hirai only stated there would be faster loading. Also reports on other message boards state that the new PSP will have an extra 32 MB of internal memory so that will be used to cache the games, thus leading to shorter loads.

I have heard it has a fater drive ...and 64, not 32 Mb..anyone comfirm?

[Chris in Cali]

Very dissapointing they're not including internal memory. The d-pad/analog nub don't look to be improved at all either. No buy for me now. :(

[Wolfpup]

Why is that too expensive? The DS Lite is severely underpowered and costs only $40 less.

That's something else I've never gotten with the constant PSP bashing. If $170 is "expensive" for a PSP, then $130 is completely outrageous for a DS. Not that I care all that much about the DS' price, but it is technically a rip off (as is the Wii) when you can get 10x more powerful hardware for a tiny bit more money.

Are you sure there is a faster UMD drive? I'm pretty sure Kaz Hirai only stated there would be faster loading. Also reports on other message boards state that the new PSP will have an extra 32 MB (totalling 64 MB) of internal memory so that will be used to cache the games, thus leading to shorter loads.

Seriously? That would be awesome! Not sure how it could really work, but it would be interesting.

[wizardofcoz4126]

Since the infamous Dark_Alex is out of the custom firmware "business" will this new model PSP be homebrew friendly or will it be a "hard nut to crack"? I like the old model Dreamcasts (before Oct. 2000) because all you can play homebrew games on it without a mod chip.

[gunm]

Not really a PSP2, but definitely an improvement over the current model. I'm in! I just need to decide if I like a picture of Darth Vader more than value...meh, I'm probably getting the Daxter pack...

[primetime]

I have heard it has a fater drive ...and 64, not 32 Mb..anyone comfirm?

The original already had 32 mb. The extra memory should improve the browser slightly.

[Wolfpup]

Is there going to be a separate white one? Or just that one with Darth Vader? I like the white color best from the pictures, but I don't want Darth Vader on it.

Obi Wan.

I want Obi Wan on there!

[Foo228]

[quote=Wolfpup;3115839]

It's not "failing" now, so I seriously doubt a nifty redesign and cool bundles are going to hurt it. The PSP outsells the 360, Wii, and Playstation 3, and outsold the DS until the Lite's release. It might be in second place for the handhelds, but it's still selling strong. [/quote=Wolfpup;3115839]

^take that back :argue:

[The Mana Knight]

Anyway, here are some updates:
The redesigned PSP makes games load faster. But, how? In a private demonstration with Joystiq, John Koller explained that the new PSP includes more than just good looks. The redesigned system also includes more RAM, which is used to increase the load speed of upcoming PSP titles. In addition, the system has much more efficient battery life. Koller promised between 8 to 10 hours of battery life in the new system, a seeming impossibility when remembering the original design.

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/07/12/added-ram-makes-psp-games-load-faster/

Oh yeah, here's a hands on with the new PSP, containing pics:

We spent some alone time with the newly announced PSP redesign. At first glance, the system appears to be identical to the original system, but getting our hands on the system revealed that this is, in fact, a significant upgrade to the original. The most immediate thing we noticed was how light the system is: the original was in no ways heavy, but the new handheld is certainly much lighter, without making it too feathery.

The glossy new finish of the redesigned PSP is very attractive, although we're afraid that it might attract fingerprints much more easily than the already susceptible original. Regardless, the shiny new sheen makes the system makes the original look dull in comparison.

The new system is thinner, mostly due to the newly designed UMD door. Instead of having mechanical gears that force the system open, this system features a latch that must be opened by hand. The door feels much more secure than the original. According to John Koller, dropping the system won't result in the UMD shooting out, as it did in the previous system design.

In addition to being slimmer, the new system also has redesigned buttons that feel much more responsive than the original. The D-Pad and face buttons all have a little bit more resistance to them, making the tactile sensation of using the system that much better. Unfortunately, Koller explained that the analog nub is not improved, although we found that a brand-new system works better than our system from launch.

There are also a few more minor changes, such as the omission of the unused IR port. The Wi-Fi switch has been moved to the top of the system, where it's less likely to be hit by accident. The Memory Stick port was moved to the other side of the system, and is much more cramped. We're a little disappointed by that change, because it makes swapping the Stick out of the system a little bit more difficult than previously.

The new headphone jack (pictured, above) not only moves further to the left of the system, but utilizes a new pin system that allows for the system's video-out. Component or composite cables can be used for TV out, but Koller explains that PSP game output will only be component-compatible. Movies (of both Memory Stick and UMD flavors) can use either component or composite cables. The video output of UMD video is especially impressive, due to the UMD's high video resolution. Many people have forgotten that UMD movies are encoded in DVD resolution: 480p. We're certain that this new feature will make UMD movies more viable than they have in the past.

We're very excited about the new PSP redesign. Many were quick to write it off when it didn't appear to be significantly different from the original. However, it's clear that this is a significantly better system that not only looks better, but feels much better. We can't wait for the retail release later this year.

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/07/12/hands-on-with-the-new-psp/

Bad news is, looks like it shows fingerprints easier, but I'm just going to get silver.

OMG, I am so buying this. I <3 Sony. ^_^

[Rocko]

As for the TV out, for me that's a reason to buy a UMD.

I'm very excited for this Daxter bundle. The thought of a bundle that actually has useful contents is almost mind-blowing. Yay Sony for convincing the finally buy a PSP.

Is it September yet?

[PleasantOne]

The TV-out is great feature for portable use, not for sitting at home and playing PSP games on your TV. If I'm at a hotel and don't want to spend the outrageous $10 per movie or $8 per hour to use their outdated SNES console, this is a great feature. It doesn't make or break the new PSP, it is just a nice extra to have that adds no cost to the price of the PSP. I can see it being a negative if the PSP was raised $30, but it isn't.

Except that most hotel TV's probably wouldn't take the input easily... half of them don't even seem to have RCA jacks! I'm in a hotel now, and I had to buy an RF Modulator to hook up the DVD player through coax, and then hook my consoles into the RCA input on the DVD player. And yes, everything looks like crap, and I'm just waiting for the whole setup to explode :lol:

I really can't understand it being a selling point, but it apparently is to a lot of people here... It just defeats the whole handheld thing to me. Now it IS a nice extra feature, but a selling point? Not for me...

The only real selling point for me was thatI can now get a white PSP with Darth Vader on it... I may actually bite just for that! But then I've had some concerns about firmware - if I got a new one, I could keep the old one for homebrew.

Does anyone know if Sony turns a profit on PSP hardware or not? I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone mention that.

[io]

Is there going to be a separate white one? Or just that one with Darth Vader? I like the white color best from the pictures, but I don't want Darth Vader on it.

Obi Wan.

I want Obi Wan on there!

Agreed :mrgreen:

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...though I'll still probably get the Vader one - IF Gamecrazy gets it. I have credit to burn there.

[Masterkyo]

Wow! i'll have my PSP in 2008 or Possible on Black Friday :)

[Kendro]

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6173974/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1

Sony was able to slim down the battery size while maintaining the system's 5-hour battery life by decreasing the power draw of the unit. You'll be able to use old batteries from the original PSP to double playing time, but the standard battery cover won't be able to fit over it. Sony will offer a high-capacity power kit that will come with its own PSP cover to fit over the larger battery.
So from what I'm understanding, the redesign has a 1200 mAh battery but will provide the same 5 hours of battery life as the original PSP battery (which is a much heftier 1800 mAh). It is cool that you can sacrifice some extra "bulk" in order to get 30% more charge if you decide to use your original battery. That means the 2200 mAh battery that they sell separately could give close to 10 hours which is not bad at all.

My only minor gripe is that according to that last sentence, it seems that it is impossible to have anything larger than a 1200 mAh battery fit inside the PSP. So if you want to spring for a brand new higher capacity battery, it will come with a custom cover but will still have the bulge sticking out.

[CouRageouS]

I'll be biting on the White PSP. I figure I can just put a sticker/skin over the Vader part or Logitech will put out a new Playgear Pocket and I'll never see the back anyway. If Japan gets a new White PSP, I might just import it like I originally intended.

[primetime]

I wish the GS article was more detailed as far as the d-pad and face buttons go. I think the face buttons are way too clicky as they are. I wouldn't mind to see them lowered.

[62t]

i would be shock if the d-pad isnt at least as good as the new japanese psp or better

[R1V3R5]

I think the white Vader one looks hot!

I'll probably not buy it though.

[Rocko]

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6173974/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1


So from what I'm understanding, the redesign has a 1200 mAh battery but will provide the same 5 hours of battery life as the original PSP battery (which is a much heftier 1800 mAh). It is cool that you can sacrifice some extra "bulk" in order to get 30% more charge if you decide to use your original battery. That means the 2200 mAh battery that they sell separately could give close to 10 hours which is not bad at all.

My only minor gripe is that according to that last sentence, it seems that it is impossible to have anything larger than a 1200 mAh battery fit inside the PSP. So if you want to spring for a brand new higher capacity battery, it will come with a custom cover but will still have the bulge sticking out.

Here's a quote from a PSPFanboy article posted earlier.

In addition, the system has much more efficient battery life. Koller promised between 8 to 10 hours of battery life in the new system, a seeming impossibility when remembering the original design.

Seems rather odd that they say that, but don't mention it requires owning an old PSP or buying an old PSP battery and having it look ugly.

[crazytalkx]

I have a silver Japanese PSP and I really don't feel left out in the cold with this redesign. The homebrew shall keep me warm.

[RelentlessRolento]

from the news of a joystiq report, sony might be doing homebrewers a favor. it looks as if later firmware will only work on the newer psps...

[Cao Cao]

Brian Ashcraft posted some of his impressions of the redesign, certainly sounds like they fixed the d-pad.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/hands-on/psp-slim-277554.php

Slimmer, lighter and with a decent D-pad. The redesign is long overdue and slightly underdone. There are no major revisions, but simply a series of tweaks: the Wi-Fi switch has been moved to the portable's top and the speakers are above the buttons and the D-pad. The D-pad itself does get a proper rehaul and finally feels like, well, a D-pad. It's incredibly responsive and not mushy like the current iteration. The casing gets spiffed up with a coat of DS Lite style gloss. This is a needed revision — would've been nice to see it months ago.

[TimPV3]

were talking about a portable market where sony is already getting their ass handed to them in sales. they are willing to drop the price of the ps3 100 dollars, but not willing to maintain their current price for the psp. cmon.
Jesus Christ, the PSP isn't a failure. The DS is just a COLOSSAL success. And the bundle is a great deal, if you can't consider that a drop you're crazy. A 1GB stick, free UMD and a $20 game for $30? Plus a new and improved PSP for the price of the current one? Fucking deal.

[MadFlava]

I'm a bit dissappointed that it doesn't come with some tpe of built in flash memory. It's still going to rely on memory sticks which is kindof disappointing. Other than that I'm glad I waited, I have 6 great psp games I picked up on clearance and I need the system to finally enjoy them.

[-GoodFella-]

PSP Slim: More RAM, 10 Hr battery, USB charging

LINK (http://www.dailytech.com/PSP+Slim+Has+More+RAM+up+to+10+Hour+Battery+Life/article8034.htm)

New PSP hardware able to charge via a USB connection

On Wednesday morning’s Sony E3 press conference, a lighter, slimmer and more power efficient PSP was revealed. It was also said that the new version of the PSP would feature quicker loading times, though Sony did not immediately detail the enabling technology behind this improvement.

Rather than an improved UMD drive, the new PSP features a new UMD caching feature that will load game data into on-board memory. The added RAM to aid loaded is new to the upcoming hardware and is not found in the current PSP.

Photos captured during Joystiq’s hands-on with the unit reveals that the UMD Cache function is a feature of the PSP’s new operating system. The UMD Cache function presumably can be enabled to speed loading on all PSP game titles without any further work needed by developers. The demo unit at E3 operates using version 3.60 firmware.

Also revealed in the new PSP’s software system is a USB charging feature. Current PSP hardware only uses its USB port to transfer data, while the new hardware appears to be able to charge its battery from the port.

Sony representatives also said that PSP battery life up to 8 to 10 hours in the new hardware, or more than double that of the current model.

[primetime]

from the news of a joystiq report, sony might be doing homebrewers a favor. it looks as if later firmware will only work on the newer psps...

How's that gonna work out for upcoming releases? They will eventually require later FW. Is only 3.60 going to be slim exclusive? I can't imagine Sony locking out the majority of their system owners.

Also, GS is reporting that the button resistance has increased. If anything, the old buttons were too raised, resistant, and clicky as compared to the more comfortable Dual Shock face buttons.

[Wolfpup]

The old version will of course continue to be updated. I'd guess the firmware will have to be slightly different on each version, but a single installer will install the correct version (which will have the same version number).

They would already have to be doing this on different versions of the PS3.

[Dijital]

Does anyone know if they have upgraded the wireless to be b/g?

[zman73]

Jesus Christ, the PSP isn't a failure. The DS is just a COLOSSAL success. And the bundle is a great deal, if you can't consider that a drop you're crazy. A 1GB stick, free UMD and a $20 game for $30? Plus a new and improved PSP for the price of the current one? Fucking deal.


It may not be a failure, but compared to sales of the DS it is definantly a disappointment... considering the DS was only supposed to be a temporary thing for nintendo while they readied the next gameboy... publications all but handed Sony the title in this handheld war... initial success from Sony faded as the DS rode the wave of positive buzz in Japan (wheere the system is poised to become the best seller of ALL TIME) and the redesigned DSlite... I myself am amazed at it, but happy for nintendo, and from a nostalgia standpoint am pulling for them this generation

BTW, I have all 3 current gen systems, I have a DS and 2 PSP's so Im not a fanboy of any system

I do want one of the new psp's, at least it is being done in a way that won;t alienate the owners of older PSPs... the battery life, tv output, and lighter weight make it a must for me

[Wolfpup]

It may not be a failure, but compared to sales of the DS it is definantly a disappointment...

I don't think that reasoning works. The DS was an unqualified success. That doesn't change the Playstation Portable being just a "normal" success or detract from it somehow.

considering the DS was only supposed to be a temporary thing for nintendo while they readied the next gameboy... publications all but handed Sony the title in this handheld war... initial success from Sony faded as the DS rode the wave of positive buzz in Japan (wheere the system is poised to become the best seller of ALL TIME) and the redesigned DSlite... I myself am amazed at it, but happy for nintendo, and from a nostalgia standpoint am pulling for them this generation

I was when this all started out, but I'm not anymore. I was soured on them when the Fanbois first started their Anti-Sony campaign, and then more so when it became clear Nintendo was focusing more on gimicks and casual gamers than real gamers. That's fine-for them-but isn't good enough for anyone who's into games enough to actually be talking about them. (Plus the reality is I have at least as much fun with my PSP as my DS, and every DS game I've loved could have been done as well or better on the PSP, making it annoying that it was released instead on inferior hardware).

[daroga]

I don't think that reasoning works. The DS was an unqualified success. That doesn't change the Playstation Portable being just a "normal" success or detract from it somehow.Certainly, the PSP is the only handheld to be even reasonably successful against a Nintendo product. But, coming out, Sony and everyone else assumed the PSP was going to steamroll Nintendo's Game Boy and new DS systems and that the Playstation brand would once again oust Nintendo from a top spot in their own field.

Obviously, that will not happen, not by a long shot.

So, in hindsight in regard to Sony's hubris, it was/is indeed a failure. As far as being a competitor against Nintendo and another option for handheld gaming, it's doing pretty well.

[The Mana Knight]

Brian Ashcraft posted some of his impressions of the redesign, certainly sounds like they fixed the d-pad.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/hands-on/psp-slim-277554.php
Awesome. :D
I'm a bit dissappointed that it doesn't come with some tpe of built in flash memory. It's still going to rely on memory sticks which is kindof disappointing. Other than that I'm glad I waited, I have 6 great psp games I picked up on clearance and I need the system to finally enjoy them.Problem is, if it would have included around 8-20GB, PSP would just be too expensive for the average consumer.
Jesus Christ, the PSP isn't a failure. The DS is just a COLOSSAL success. And the bundle is a great deal, if you can't consider that a drop you're crazy. A 1GB stick, free UMD and a $20 game for $30? Plus a new and improved PSP for the price of the current one? Fucking deal.
I agree.

[naes]

I hope this PSP is "unhackable" when it first comes out so I could eBay my 1.5 PSP and buy the new one.

[imascrub]

hm when is this coming out again? Somehow the addition of extra battery life alone has made me consider getting one again, even though there probably aren't that many games I'd play on it lol...but hey at least I'd be ready for Crisis Core!

[RelentlessRolento]

hm when is this coming out again? Somehow the addition of extra battery life alone has made me consider getting one again, even though there probably aren't that many games I'd play on it lol...but hey at least I'd be ready for Crisis Core!


I am probably wrong but I think September.

[PagingDrUgly]

I'm sorry... TV out is a brilliant feature addition, period. For those of us that actually take our PSP on the road as a PORTABLE system, such as hotels ($10 a movie!) or relative's houses (that do not own entertainment centers, just VHS) this is IT. One compact device that handles movies, games, pictures, and web browsing on a TV - please, this feature isn't so you sit at home and play on your normal TV (though probably enjoyable). I swear, people get down on the PSP without even evaluating all the incredible features as intended. Obviously, the PSP's features are beyond what some in this thread would imagine to use. Its an improvement over the original design, but I am never one to double dip.

-Dr. Ugly

[trq]

I was when this all started out, but I'm not anymore. I was soured on them when the Fanbois first started their Anti-Sony campaign

It's beyond puerile to make this into a "They said it first" argument, but did you conveniently forget the pages upon pages of "Sony is gonna destroy nintendo and with no haldhelz they will go bankruptz! Lolz!" posts when they announced the PSP? It's easy enough to dig them out, right on this very site. It's annoying no matter where it comes from, but to act like this is a new thing? Not even close.

and then more so when it became clear Nintendo was focusing more on gimicks and casual gamers than real gamers.

Nothing personal, but that's a load of happy horseshit. Care to define a "real" gamer? Let me guess: it begins and ends with "Polishes Sony knob"?

That's fine-for them-but isn't good enough for anyone who's into games enough to actually be talking about them.

Speak for yourself. Seriously.

[zman73]

Certainly, the PSP is the only handheld to be even reasonably successful against a Nintendo product. But, coming out, Sony and everyone else assumed the PSP was going to steamroll Nintendo's Game Boy and new DS systems and that the Playstation brand would once again oust Nintendo from a top spot in their own field.

Obviously, that will not happen, not by a long shot.

So, in hindsight in regard to Sony's hubris, it was/is indeed a failure. As far as being a competitor against Nintendo and another option for handheld gaming, it's doing pretty well.

Exactly what I was getting at, I never called the PSp a failure, but seeing how it was supposed to dominate a much less powerful handheld... and didnt... that IS disappointing because Nintendo is steamrolling Sony currently... if only because nintendo is selling ungodly amounts of the DS, but I wouldnt put the psp's sales numbers as being bad on their own...

I love both systems... but I have friends who refuse to even play the DS because it is a less powerful system... it has great games, that is all that matters... to them good graphics = better system

[seanr1221]

If I can get remote play working well, I'll probably sell my psp to my brother for 100.00 and pick the slim up.

If not, then I'll stick with the fat slightly over weight PSP ;)

[Kendro]

Interesting stat. DS Lite feels a lot lighter than the original DS and there is only a 20% difference in weight. 33% is going to make the PSP Slim feel like a feather (basically twice the weight of a Game Boy Micro).

[Rei no Otaku]

I'll definitely be trading in my old one when the new ones come out. I play my PSP far more than my DS, so it's worth it for me. Probably going to get that Star Wars one.

[The Mana Knight]

I'll definitely be trading in my old one when the new ones come out. I play my PSP far more than my DS, so it's worth it for me. Probably going to get that Star Wars one.Same, I play my PSP so much, I just gotta get a new one. I kind of like that white of the Star Wars one, but I'm no Star Wars fan, so I'll stick to silver. ;)

[Lord Draconus777]

I might have to consider a second PSP now. With my 1.5 still being used for homebrew software and games, and one of the most influential people behind the homebrew scene gone, I might find reason to fork for one, especially if it's a new model, comes with Daxter (which I've been meaning to play), the Family Guy collection, all without feeling, it's a consideration. Just that.

[imascrub]

anybody notice that in some pictures, the silver psp has clear buttons and d-pad, and the X O Sq Tr and the d-pad arrows are see through underneath, and in some pictures the buttons and d-pad are solid colors? I think the pictures show this for the white one as well. Does anybody know if they are going to be clear or solid colored for sure? It's a minor cosmetic preference but I'd prefer the clear buttons just cuz it looks slicker lol, and also keeps it in line with the clear L and R buttons

[gunm]

Too bad you can't have the Star Wars one in the Daxter Pack. :p.

Oh well, I'm getting the Daxter pack.

[naes]

Should I sell my old PSP w/ a 1GB Memory Stick for $170 CAD so I could get the new PSP?

[RelentlessRolento]

Should I sell my old PSP w/ a 1GB Memory Stick for $170 CAD so I could get the new PSP?


my guess is that, like with the DS lite release, EB games will have a trade in offer for it as it gets near to release.

[seanr1221]

So what's going to happen to all the old psp? Phased out, or price reduction?

[RelentlessRolento]

So what's going to happen to all the old psp? Phased out, or price reduction?


expect it to be phased out with a retailer price reduction... probably only at game specialty stores though for the price drop.

there may be a higher demand for them on ebay though due to homebrew being more friendly now.

[seanr1221]

Hmmm I wonder then if I'm being too generous then with my 100.00 price for my brother...

[Wolfpup]

my guess is that, like with the DS lite release, EB games will have a trade in offer for it as it gets near to release.

Good point. Guess I'll wait for that to trade mine in (besides not wanting to give up my PSP until I have to!)

[Monsta Mack]

I was gonna possibly get a PSP this XMas after seeing several used PSPS for under $130. Now I'm probably going to wait and save up a bit next year and get the newer version. It's hard to resist longer battery life, and even harder to resist the ability to play it on the TV. Most of the "great" PSP games can be had for under $20 to boot, with the exception of Portable Ops it seems.

[NamPaehc]

"Gutted new PSP" (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ooohh/new-psp-details-uncovered-278754.php)

Digging through a new PSP manual, 0okm has uncovered a few smaller details about the updated system (aside from what Jack Tretton already told us in a Kotaku exclusive interview).

- Its TA-085 PCB motherboard is homebrew-conducive.
- USB can be used to charge the battery.
- The battery has been shrunk from 1800mAh to 1200mAh, but retains hour rating.
- Old PSP remote is not compatible.
- WLAN switch has been relocated to top.
- TV-out cable is not included.

I would have traded more battery life for slimmer and lighter, so the new battery with an equal runtime rating is a bit of a disappointment.

Smaller battery- same amount of charge time? boo.

[Chris in Cali]

Everything about this "re-design" screams meh. Sony had a real chance to get me interested in the PSP again, and totally dropped the ball.

[RelentlessRolento]

"Gutted new PSP" (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ooohh/new-psp-details-uncovered-278754.php)



Smaller battery- same amount of charge time? boo.

I still see no problem with the charge time. I pretty much charge it every time before I go to bed.

[daroga]

Everything about this "re-design" screams meh. Sony had a real chance to get me interested in the PSP again, and totally dropped the ball.Really, there's not much they could/can do with it. Physcially, the machine was designed pretty well from the get go. The cries for flash memory replacing UMD, a real analog stick, 2 analog sticks, etc. would all have to come into from an actual new system, not a hardware refresh. With the size of the screen on the original system, even the form factor is kinda stuck unless they shrunk the screen, which I don't think too many people would be in favor of.

[The Mana Knight]

Really, there's not much they could/can do with it. Physcially, the machine was designed pretty well from the get go. The cries for flash memory replacing UMD, a real analog stick, 2 analog sticks, etc. would all have to come into from an actual new system, not a hardware refresh. With the size of the screen on the original system, even the form factor is kinda stuck unless they shrunk the screen, which I don't think too many people would be in favor of.Pretty much.

I'm very excited about the new features. I absolutely can't wait to buy a 2nd PSP, that will count to being sold by Sony (since I'm going to buy it new). The new features are enough for me to spend $250, but its only $200 for the bundle, so I'll buy that. I'll buy that video out cable for sure.

IMO, PSP was near perfect to begin with, except for the D-pad and a few minor things. I don't think a 2nd analog stick is needed. Early PS1 games and DC games didn't need one, so I don't see why PSP does.

[Wolfpup]

IMO, PSP was near perfect to begin with, except for the D-pad and a few minor things. I don't think a 2nd analog stick is needed. Early PS1 games and DC games didn't need one, so I don't see why PSP does.

It wasn't just early PS1 games, it was virtually all of them. Yet people seem to forget that.

I disagree about the d-pad though. Every PSP I've used has been fine-better than the 360's, that's for sure (though various 360 pads I've used have had differing qualities). And I would have preferred a second analog stick (in the original model)...and a brighter screen now.

I just booted up my old DS that I'm going to sell, and I can't believe how terrible the screen looks. I thought it was fantastic when I bought it :D

[apokalipze2]

http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/images/upload/1157277059PSPRedesign.jpgI was expecting a more radical change like this. Unfortunately they decided to keep that big ass ugly form factor.

[Monsta Mack]

Well that sucks about the battery life, so the only reason im buying this is for the TV out now. I rarely play my games on the go (only on occasion on my lunch break) so portability has never been a great feature for me. Once they announce the cable for the TV out price I'll have to decide this or get a used PSP for $100ish on eBay.

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone scared the redesign won't fix the hand cramping?

[dallow]

Your hands will still cramp.

[RelentlessRolento]

you can download the user manuals now:

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=656803&fcc_id=

you can see the inards here as well:

http://0okm.blogspot.com/2007/07/some-interest-thing-in-psp-200x.html

[gunm]

Hm, smaller battery = same run time? That's disappointing.

I'm still sold on it though, unless they reveal that the load times aren't better either. If that ends up being the case, I'll give up and stick with DS Lite.

[primetime]

anyone scared the redesign won't fix the hand cramping?

Still will. I usually try to put it on my lap if I'm playing something. A big help to that problem would've been moving the nub above the D-pad. As it is, the most comfortable way to play is using the bottom of the thumb, but then you sacrifice grip and precision. The grid on the nub simply won't grip the bottom of the thumb, so usually you have to play with the tip of the thumb, which causes cramping.

[imascrub]

hmm smaller battery same runtime huh

what was that that was mentioned awhile back about 3-5 hours becoming 8-10 hours? Can the larger capacity battery still be used?

[The Mana Knight]

It wasn't just early PS1 games, it was virtually all of them. Yet people seem to forget that.

I disagree about the d-pad though. Every PSP I've used has been fine-better than the 360's, that's for sure (though various 360 pads I've used have had differing qualities). And I would have preferred a second analog stick (in the original model)...and a brighter screen now.

I just booted up my old DS that I'm going to sell, and I can't believe how terrible the screen looks. I thought it was fantastic when I bought it :DMy mistake, but true anyway. The only true PS1 to really utilize a 2nd stick was Ape Escape, others just used it for stuff that wasn't really needed (like a racing game to drive). Most games just needed one stick. It wasn't until the PS2 came around, when games started to use two sticks. Two sticks won't make PSP games better IMO, devs just need to stop doing direct ports of PS2 type games and trying to find a way to make it work on PSP (which wasn't meant for two analog sticks). Some games, like Daxter, LocoRoco, etc., prove two sticks aren't needed.

Well, I think the PSP d-pad is better than the 360 one, but I still found it hard to use (could be because I had a near launch PSP). Playing fighters was kind of difficult with it, due to the d-pad being pushed in too much.

Yeah, the old DS looks like crap now. I still haven't upgraded to a Lite (probably never will, since I rarely play my DS anyway).

[Kendro]

Well to be fair, you can't say 2 sticks aren't needed just because PS1 games didn't need them. Imagine if Nintendo decided only to use 2 buttons for the SNES controller since NES games worked well with only 2 buttons (even Sega fudged up by only using 3 buttons for the Genesis). In my opinion, PS1 games are to PS2 what NES was to SNES (NES being the real birth for 2D and PS1 being the real birth of 3D). NES games were restricted by weak hardware and thus the games weren't complex and didn't require 4 face buttons and 2 shoulder buttons. It wasn't until the power of the SNES where we saw more complex games that needed the extra buttons.

I kinda view the PS1 as the same way. Though some 3D such as MGS was beautiful, the limited power of the hardware produced games that didn't need the 2nd stick. Now 2 sticks are as mandatory as a D-pad was 2 generations ago so I hope the PSP2 makes them standard. If the PSP was designed to have the power of a PS2, Sony should have had the foresight to see it would receive PS2-esque games. They should have included the 2nd analog.

[Rei no Otaku]

anyone scared the redesign won't fix the hand cramping?
I have the Nyko attachment that makes the PSP feel like a controller. Very comfortable.

[RelentlessRolento]

I have the Nyko attachment that makes the PSP feel like a controller. Very comfortable.


that's useful for home play, but since I take it on the go alot, forget about it. I think the thinner size might actually make the cramping worse.

[willardhaven]

This is coming as a standalone as well? Any MSRPs announced?

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm guessing if they released it as a standalone it would be the same price the PSP is now.

[willardhaven]

The top box looks like a standalone, it's not?

The TV-Out makes this tempting with FF VII, Ratchet, Daxter and Castlevania.

[The Mana Knight]

If you can't wait to get your hands on the redesigned PSP, than perhaps the inside look at the system, and it's manual over at Ookm will interest you. The blog post does a good job of not just showing what the new PSP version has for specs, but also what the original was equipped with (in case you forgot).

It's certainly interesting to see diagrams of how the new PSP will hook up to your TV, and where exactly those component cables will plug into. The post also shows off parts of the manual that explain the USB charging feature, the expanded main memory, how it will use a new remote, and exactly where the WLAN switch was moved to. It's all great info, but as a PSP fan it's always difficult to see a PSP ripped open.
http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/07/16/a-look-at-the-redesigned-psps-insides-and-manual/

This blog has the pics (before some may get upset about battery life, I will mention that this new instruction manual probably refers to 333MHz, compared to the previous PSP at a lower clock frequency):
http://0okm.blogspot.com/2007/07/some-interest-thing-in-psp-200x.html

I thought it would support the PS3 component cable, but I guess not. Oh well, looks like I'll be buying another. I heard it had to use component to properly upscale.

[RelentlessRolento]

3 models... two as bundles and one as stand alone.

[Rocko]

:-k

So only new games will load faster, and the battery is actually the same?

I have to reconsider this purchase now, I think, as two major selling points for me have just been eliminated.

[Thomas96]

Sony definitely needs to price drop the day the psp.5 comes out. 149.99, or 159.99. Consumers on the outside looking in may not really notice the difference...

[Thomas96]

It wasn't just early PS1 games, it was virtually all of them. Yet people seem to forget that.

I disagree about the d-pad though. Every PSP I've used has been fine-better than the 360's, that's for sure (though various 360 pads I've used have had differing qualities). And I would have preferred a second analog stick (in the original model)...and a brighter screen now.

I just booted up my old DS that I'm going to sell, and I can't believe how terrible the screen looks. I thought it was fantastic when I bought it :D


what the psp is missing is a way for people to control the camera... its missing r2 and l2 buttons. The psp is basically a snes pad.. which is good too, which is why I'd love to see more 2d games on the psp.

[daroga]

what the psp is missing is a way for people to control the camera... its missing r2 and l2 buttons. The psp is basically a snes pad.. which is good too, which is why I'd love to see more 2d games on the psp.My thoughts exactly. I'd love to see the DS/PSP the home of more Sonic Rush / New Super Mario Bros. / Mega Man Powered Up / Mega Man Maverick Hunter X / Castlevania X type games. 2D design with a bit of polygonal flare? Sure!

Personally, I think 3D games on the PSP are only passable, while the 2D games (mention above and including Loco Roco) are the cream of the PSP crop. We need Mega Man Powered Up 2.

[Thomas96]

the psp is built for the old school 2d action due to the wide screen. If I could I'd go to sega and force them to remake some streets of rage titles, or capcom to redo some final fight.. oh... Mega man Powered up 2 should have been the first release...

[Wolfpup]

Personally, I think 3D games on the PSP are only passable, while the 2D games (mention above and including Loco Roco) are the cream of the PSP crop. We need Mega Man Powered Up 2.

Syphon Filter.

:D

While I'd like another analog stick, that wasn't standard until late 2000 (essentially 2001), and 3D games did just fine.

I'd also love more 2D games, but just because I want more 2D games :)

[daroga]

I didn't say that 3D games were bad on the system, but evne the best of those can't compare with the perfection of the 2D stuff. Syphon Filter is solid, but I'd rather see some 2D stuff than more 3D stuff on the system, if for no other reason those tend to lend themselves to portable play more than a bigger 3D game.

[jer7583]

Syphon Filter is crippled by the face button aiming.. Ugh. Good game but I can't take those controls.

Killzone Liberation does it right. Feels like a birds-eye view Gears of War. Great 3D game.

[Wolfpup]

I didn't say that 3D games were bad on the system, but evne the best of those can't compare with the perfection of the 2D stuff. Syphon Filter is solid, but I'd rather see some 2D stuff than more 3D stuff on the system, if for no other reason those tend to lend themselves to portable play more than a bigger 3D game.

*SHRUG* I expect the same gameplay out of a game regardless of what I'm playing it on. Though there are some types of games I can tolerate slightly better on a portable (puzzle type games).

Syphon Filter is crippled by the face button aiming.. Ugh. Good game but I can't take those controls.

Killzone Liberation does it right. Feels like a birds-eye view Gears of War. Great 3D game.

How is it crippled? You don't aim with the face buttons in the default control set, it basically locks on. The controls work better than the vast majority of games that use two sticks IMO.

[Crimson_Raven25]

i gotta agree with wolfpup som what, it would be nice for a second anologe stick but really the controls are fine right now, if u want to aim with the anologe stick just mace the [] O X /\ into moving work perfectly fine
but 2 sticks would make it easyer but i just swith it the other way around

[Wolfpup]

I would like developers to do a better job of it though (like Dark Mirror did). A lot seem to have forgotten how they used to do it.

[dallow]

Bullsh....

Japan gets the cool PSP slims.

Colors:
http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070717/scej1.htm
Crisis Core pack:
http://japan.gamespot.com/psp/news/story/0,3800075348,20352895,00.htm

[Kendro]

OMG I sooooooo want that Crisis Core pack.

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff02.jpg

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff03.jpg

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff04.jpg

[Crimson_Raven25]

Bullsh....

Japan gets the cool PSP slims.

Colors:
http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070717/scej1.htm
Crisis Core pack:
http://japan.gamespot.com/psp/news/story/0,3800075348,20352895,00.htm

O_o damn sony >.< i want that pack damn it
replace the starwars with ff7

[bob330i]

How is it crippled? You don't aim with the face buttons in the default control set, it basically locks on. The controls work better than the vast majority of games that use two sticks IMO.

Sort of. You have to use the L shoulder to lock on, it's not automatic. I'm playing it right now (not literally). I think it would be nicer if it had the dual nub for aiming. Sometimes, the button aim is not precise enough if you're trying for a medium distance shot (not using the sniper rifle). So I only use the lock on when I'm running to a spot or get surprised by an enemy.

It is a great game though and I can work around the aiming issue. Can't wait for the next installment (later this year?).

I'm waiting for a price drop on Killzone. Heard a lot of good things.

[NamPaehc]

We're getting closer to "the dream"...

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/4492/sonypsps07hy7.jpg

[Zoglog]

a Killzone PSP would have been better =)

[Crimson_Raven25]

a Killzone PSP would have been better =)
there is a killzone for the psp it kicks ass but i f ur talking ab a fps one then that might kickass i wonder wat kill zone be like as a tps

[jling84]

OMG I sooooooo want that Crisis Core pack.

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff02.jpg

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff03.jpg

http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20352895/ff04.jpg

Do you guys think Play-Asia will have this up for preorder so that people living in the US would have a chance at getting one? But... only 77,777, I can see this thing selling out within a matter of hours. =(

On a related matter, who wants to buy my crappy phat black psp so that I can buy this one!

[seanr1221]

That FF PSP is great :drool:

[jer7583]

I got lucky and found Killzone for $15. It should be GH sooner or later. Great game, good old school PS2 type Ragdoll on enemies. I never get tired of that old goofy style ragdoll.

[TLR]

Well, lesee:
• Audio/Video Output (insta-buy, right there)
• WLAN switch has been relocated to a better place
• Better Load Times (At the very least, will finally shut the mouths of the anti-Spectral Souls kiddies)
• More RAM (Will do wonders for data caching, and make the internet browser even better)
• Better battery life
• More comfortable, raised D-Pad (Confirmed by Kotaku in their hands-on with the "PSP Slim")
• 33% lighter (I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty happy about this - those bi-daily 4 hour "binge sessions" with all those PSP RPGs hurt like hell and I'll gladly welcome this weight loss)

Then there's either:
• $200 New PSP value pack with Daxter, 1GB and Family Guy
• $200 New PSP value pack with Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron
• $170 New PSP core unit

That's easily a much better deal than all the other value packs offered thus far... and looking even further into it, I can see that the new PSP uses a 1200mAh instead of the 1800mAh(today's standard)... meaning it gets more battery life on a battery that's technically inferior to what we use now.

That, coupled with the fact the battery cover can be removed to put in a 1800mAh(or even the official 2200mAh upgrade) means this thing could get some serious battery life.

Psh... this shit is epic and I'm buying it on the day it hits store shelves.

My only qualms are that I'll have to buy the AV-out cable separately (which I don't mind as long as it isn't over $20) and that they're making the current remote incompatible with the new PSP (which, if Sony has any brains at all, means there will be a replacement). I also hope it comes with a softcase designed for it - I doubt this old one will be of any use.

If Sony wants to be really awesome right now, they could take my concept for a clamshell PSP keyboard (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5195/keyboardbq6.gif) (compatible with internet browser and infrastructure game lobbies) and make it into a reality.

[Wolfpup]

I hadn't considered the extra RAM being usable by the web browser! I'm completely baffled by people buying that silly browser on the DS for $30...it's like...uh, just use your Playstation. And if you don't have one, use that $30 towards one. Not that the PSP's browser is the best ever, but it's decent, and the original PSP has close to 40MB versus 4MB...

O_o damn sony >.< i want that pack damn it
replace the starwars with ff7

Yeah, that looks way better. I *do not* want Darth Vader on my game system.

...

It is a great game though and I can work around the aiming issue. Can't wait for the next installment (later this year?).

I'm waiting for a price drop on Killzone. Heard a lot of good things.

I'd guess Logan's Shadow is coming out this year, because I got the demo for it last week. It was fun, but ended too soon :(

Killzone...I wasn't that impressed. It was okay. Kind of reminded me of Crusader: No Remorse. But it got too hard, and I didn't find it as much fun as if it had been an FPS. Graphically it's a huge step below the Syphon Filter games too.

[Crimson_Raven25]

the darth vader would look better if the psp was balck or a dark silver with a nice blood red vader might look better then white with black vader >.>

[Kendro]

Some more high res shots of FFVII:CC PSP from IGN.

http://media.psp.ign.com/articles/805/805624/imgs_1.html

Damn these suckers really are limited. They are numbered on the back.

[Wolfpup]

Oh great, IGN rubs it in ;)

The Playstation Portable is only region locked for video discs, right? I guess technically we could import these...for 50 trillion dollars.

Hope the game it's for is actually good.

[mykevermin]

Some more high res shots of FFVII:CC PSP from IGN.

http://media.psp.ign.com/articles/805/805624/imgs_1.html

Damn these suckers really are limited. They are numbered on the back.

That's pretty neat-o keen, IMO. I'm very happy with my current PSP, but if initial reports from new users praise the d-pad and load times, then those two things, along with TV output, make it a done deal for me.

[zewone]

Damn, that Crisis Core PSP is slick.

[xeno]

anyone found a site to preorder this?

[bob330i]

anyone found a site to preorder this?

Dunno but I put a deposit in at GameCrazy B&M.

[jer7583]

That crisis core psp is going to double in value within hours of release.

[WebScud]

Some more high res shots of FFVII:CC PSP from IGN.

http://media.psp.ign.com/articles/805/805624/imgs_1.html

Damn these suckers really are limited. They are numbered on the back.

Ugh. Why does that have the be silver? Black, dammit. Black! :drool:

[Masterkyo]

IT look freaking awsomeness :)

[panasonic]

must have 0_o

[xeno]

^ we all want that thing!

[dallow]

Damn, I actually want it too now.
I need to find one.

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't want that FFVII one (I don't like FFVII), but I do want those other colors! Why does the US never get all these cool colors?

[Crimson_Raven25]

Why does the US never get all these cool colors?
becuz scea dosnt like us

[Wolfpup]

Not just Sony. We never get any of the fun colors here for anything. Japan always gets more stuff. Microsoft even released that Blue Dragon system there.

[Rei no Otaku]

Not just Sony. We never get any of the fun colors here for anything. Japan always gets more stuff. Microsoft even released that Blue Dragon system there.
Exactly. It's annoying. I can understand not releasing the Blue Dragon system, and even the FFVII one. But the colors? Come on now.

[gunm]

OT, but yeah, there isn't the same kind of market for that kind of stuff here as in Japan. Just because the lot of us here on CAG will buy that shit, doesn't mean enough people in the US will for companies to make it worth their while.

[62t]

nintendo did release n64 is many different colors

[Rei no Otaku]

OT, but yeah, there isn't the same kind of market for that kind of stuff here as in Japan. Just because the lot of us here on CAG will buy that shit, doesn't mean enough people in the US will for companies to make it worth their while.
Understandable for things like a Blue Dragon 360 and a FFVII PSP, but not for different colors.

[imascrub]

sony has a thing for light metallic colors hm?
I kinda like the blue, but maybe it's a little too baby blue-ish for me
I think the purple is pretty nice too.
If they had dark metallic navy blue it would go perfect with my navy blue ds lite lol

[dallow]

Freakin Yes Asia has the CC PSP bundle listed at $430.

Yeah right.

I'll go with a new color then.

[Chris in Cali]

Is the screen supposed to be brighter/better than the original PSP's screen? I remember my launch PSP had really bad ghosting, very noticeable when watching a UMD movie(especially an action movie like Spider-Man 2), and after the DS lite came out, and I got an iPod, the PSP's screen didn't seem bright at all anymore. I specifically remember playing GTA: LCS and not being abel to see enough to properly play the game when it was night(in game).

[xeno]

Freakin Yes Asia has the CC PSP bundle listed at $430.

Yeah right.

I'll go with a new color then.

i saw that they had then when i looked at the price i yelled FUck and imat work also <_<

[RelentlessRolento]

my guess with ghosting is that when hooked up to a TV wont be noticeable. I guess..

[Chris in Cali]

Battery life not improved?

http://kotaku.com/gaming/baby-got-back/psp-slim-battery-life-confusion-280487.php

[RelentlessRolento]

Battery life not improved?

http://kotaku.com/gaming/baby-got-back/psp-slim-battery-life-confusion-280487.php


in a way it is improved. It's a smaller battery with the same amount of time as the larger one. so in a way, they've figured a way to use less power.

still wont make people happy oddly enough even though the PSP already has great amount of battery time.

[Wolfpup]

in a way it is improved. It's a smaller battery with the same amount of time as the larger one. so in a way, they've figured a way to use less power.

still wont make people happy oddly enough even though the PSP already has great amount of battery time.

That's some kind of weird fanboi myth. I mean I'm always up for more battery life, but I've never run down my Playstation Portable OR DS in years of use (and that's with a now 2 1/2 year old battery.

CNET actually did a comparison, and said the Playstation Portable came out ahead of the DS Lite in battery life.

[bob330i]

That's some kind of weird fanboi myth. I mean I'm always up for more battery life, but I've never run down my Playstation Portable OR DS in years of use (and that's with a now 2 1/2 year old battery.

CNET actually did a comparison, and said the Playstation Portable came out ahead of the DS Lite in battery life.

I have run down my PSP on a few occasions due to the power LED being covered up when playing (thumb). Never on my DS since the light is visible all the time.

How is that possible? I only get about 4 hours out of my PSP (currently playing Syphon Filter) whereas I can get at least 8 out of my DS (currently playing Phoenix Wright, 2nd level brightness). It's contrary to my experience since I've had my PSP since March and my DS for over a year.

I do want more battery life out of the PSP. Plus it's a pain where the plug goes into the PSP if you leave it in during gameplay.