Forbes/Washington Post/USA Today - Sony Draws Yawns, it's unainmous!

[Zoglog]

http://www.forbes.com/technology/2007/07/11/sony-e3-nintendo-tech-personal-cx_rr_0711techsony.html

LOS ANGELES -

If the best Sony has to offer is a Darth Vader-branded PlayStation Portable, it may be in trouble.

Having already announced its big news July 9 — a $100 price drop on the PlayStation 3 — Sony (nyse: SNE - news - people )'s event at the E3 video game convention Wednesday didn't leave room for many surprises.

However, Sony made a point of picking a hardware fight with Nintendo (other-otc: NTDOY - news - people ) on the portable front. Sony redesigned its PlayStation Portable into a slimmer shape, offered two new colors (one silver, and one etched with Star Wars' Darth Vader) and gave it the ability to export video to high-definition televisions, all to better compete with Nintendo's DS. Nintendo sells about 423,000 portable devices per month, while Sony sells only 221,000, according to NPD.

Sony executives made it clear that they know they need to do more than lower prices to woo consumers back to its flagging video game brand. Tepid audience response at Wednesday's event suggests the company hasn't yet done enough.

“Our accomplishments bring no guarantees for the future,” said Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton. “We want to earn each and every one of our customers.” While Monday's price cut is already reaping rewards — Tretton said sales of the just-reduced PS3 have already doubled at the company's top five retailers — it won't juice sales enough to give the company the “installed base” that it wants.

Sony tried to impress its bread and butter customers — hard-core gamers — with a slew of exclusive violent action games from third-party publishers and Sony's in-house studios. Footage of gruesome knife battles in Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4 drew cheers, but it might be too little too late: the game will be released later than expected in early 2008.

The company can't promise PS3 owners exclusive access to Grand Theft Auto 4 from Take-Two Interactive (nasdaq: TTWO - news - people ) — it will appear on Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people )'s Xbox 360 as well — so Sony's taking a stab at creating a game called Infamous, which features a similar style of play known as the “emergent gaming sandbox.”

Price cuts and new colors on hardware will only go so far to help Sony catch up to Nintendo, which is moving to take an even bigger lead. Earlier on Wednesday at Nintendo's E3 event, the company attempted to prove that it could expand upon its successful strategy of appealing to nontraditional gamers, while at the same time encroaching on Sony's hard-core gamer demographic.

Nintendo aims to get traditional gamers interested in the Wii with a new gun-shaped controller and a few “first-person shooter” games. For everyone else, Nintendo intends to capitalize on the Wii's motion-sensing features by selling a new suite of health-conscious games called Wii Fit. It requires the purchase of a floor-pad controller that looks a lot like a bathroom scale.

oh boy........
and double confirmed by Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102149.html
Nintendo Is Star of E3 Show as Rivals Scramble to Catch Up

Triple confirmed by USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-07-11-wii-balance-board_N.htm

SANTA MONICA, Calif. — Nintendo, which helped create today's video-game industry more than 20 years ago, had to change its game plan quickly to avoid being overwhelmed in the home-console wars.

Now Nintendo and its Wii are riding the biggest wave of success at the E3 game summit, overshadowing tech giants Microsoft and Sony and their more powerful entries.

Love is over guys, time to retire.

[RESmonkey]

Forbes? I'll take their input in business and marketing, etc.
Video game companies? Nay, I say!

[Setzer]

What a joke! Did this person actually attend the event? It's probably someone from Microsoft or Nintendo.

[Rei no Otaku]

Sony is doomed!

[seanr1221]

"Yea MGS4 looked oookay but it wont be out till early 2008 so...PHAIL!"

[Kaijufan]

Personally I was pretty bored with the Sony conference, but they didn't show any of the PS3 exclusives I'm looking forward to. However, I would think that most people would consider Sony's press conference the best since they really did focus on a wide variety of games for longer then anyone else.

[Noodle Pirate!]

I think the one - two punch of dropping the price on the system and coming out with a crazy killzone 2 trailer ( which Forbes didnt even mention) will help sell a lot of consoles.

[Apossum]

how ironic...some of the only genuine clapping and cheering at any of the conferences was after MGS4 and Killzone 2.


but hey, I'm sure the fogies at forbes are all raving about the Wii scale right now

[ryanbph]

while I will be picking a ps3 up in the near future due to the pricedrop, I really don't think the $100 is enough to get the amount of systems sold to approach nintendo or msft in sales at this current time. I am sorry, but $500 is still a big purchase for the avg consumer to spend on a video game machine.

[Apossum]

while I will be picking a ps3 up in the near future due to the pricedrop, I really don't think the $100 is enough to get the amount of systems sold to approach nintendo or msft in sales at this current time. I am sorry, but $500 is still a big purchase for the avg consumer to spend on a video game machine.


agreed. this thing is going to move slowly but surely. just like the PSP.

[RESmonkey]

Forbes can suck my balls dry.

[johnmirra]

Draws yawns? It was the best of the big 3 conferences if this drew yawns i think nintendo and microsoft bored people to death.

[Thomas96]

LOL Fuck Forbes... Sony press conference was ver solid, lots of titles, some additional exclusives... all the games looked good, there was nothing really disappointing. Forbes... just wants to cash in on negative press. Notice that while MS, and Nintendo was busy given stats in regards to their present day status, Sony was focusing on the future, and what they had to offer.

[torifile]

What are you talking about? MS' conference was awesome! How often do you get to see the head of a division at Microsoft make such an ass of himself? I thought watching Peter Moore play Rock Band was good the first time. When I saw it on repeat on G4 today, I thought "damn, that was worse than I thought it was".

I can't believe they thought it would be a good idea to show Moore playing that game. It was just sad.

[Crimson_Raven25]

yea sony conference as the best i ade me laugh ab chubaka lol
and then slim psp was reviled i wasnt even expecting that and
i just saw the close up pics so now im gonna save 200$ for the slim and sell my old one
i mean come on there will be homebrew out for it psp so easy to hack..right??
and killzone 2 rocked and mgs4 made me sad becuz it looked soo good bt..its the last mgs game =[ ik snake is really old but i liked ac!d and Protable Ops. =[
and there were more exculseve games then i thought for the ps3 making me want it sooner and the psp slim to come out like now

i dint get a chance to watch the whole microsoft conference, did Peter Moore have the any new tatto's??
im telling u..if he does this for every xbox game or sumthing he will run out of space...him and his tatto's

[rodeojones903]

yea sony conference as the best i ade me laugh ab chubaka lol
and then slim psp was reviled i wasnt even expecting that and
i just saw the close up pics so now im gonna save 200$ for the slim and sell my old one
i mean come on there will be homebrew out for it psp so easy to hack..right??
and killzone 2 rocked and mgs4 made me sad becuz it looked soo good bt..its the last mgs game =[ ik snake is really old but i liked ac!d and Protable Ops. =[
and there were more exculseve games then i thought for the ps3 making me want it sooner and the psp slim to come out like now

i dint get a chance to watch the whole microsoft conference, did Peter Moore have the any new tatto's??
im telling u..if he does this for every xbox game or sumthing he will run out of space...him and his tatto's

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[Dr Mario Kart]

hahaha! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102149.html)

[rodeojones903]

hahaha! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102149.html)

That is actually quite sad. I don't see how anyone can honestly think Nintendo had a better show than Sony that is actually into gaming. These "mainstrean" media outlets probably feel this way since Nintendo is catering to them, the so called "non-gamer".

Sony, which previously held events that featured such concert acts as Macy Gray and Beck, settled for a low-key sushi shindig this year.

Apparently they think that was Sony's entire show.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I guess when the future they bring actually sells and is popular again, then the media may change its tune accordingly.

[Apossum]

hahaha! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102149.html)


wii scale was a hit. just like britney spears, the spice girls, and 50 cent are hits...can't go wrong with the lowest common denominator.

[Zoglog]

I love how some Nintendo fanboys have started to go "wait a minute... omg wtf have we done?"

On the Washington Post Article

Sony, which previously held events that featured such concert acts as Macy Gray and Beck, settled for a low-key sushi shindig this year.

Because sushi Roku is such a run down old ghetto sushi resturant? LOL...... oh man...

[jling84]

As an owner of both a PS3 and a Wii I really think the mass media just latches onto the frontrunner at the moment. Since Nintendo is kicking everyone's ass in sales, the media just hops onto the bandwagon. The Nintendo keynote barely showed any gameplay videos and aside from giving a few dates, told us very little we didn't already know.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can yawn after seeing the Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 trailers.

[RESmonkey]

Seriously, I want to kick someone's ass right now.


What's sad is, it's over a video game console. LOL

[zeroblue]

I was at the press conference and yeah i was bored, except when Chubaka came in, i laughed a bit, and for the trailers for MGS4 and Killzone2, that was awsome, i may buy a Ps3, maybe....

[seanr1221]

That Washington Post article is good for a laugh. I love how on the second page they merge Guitar Hero and rock band, and then make it seem like if you miss one note the entire game freezes.

YAY!

[Zoglog]

Yo mama play MGS4? I dun think so son. Does yo grandma play killzone 2? Hellz no.... Does yo DADDY play Uncharted!? No wai! But do they play Wii sports? Hellz YEAH! you all doomed! Nintendo Victory FTW!

[DarkNessBear]

Umm, Nintendoes conference was an hour and a half Nintendo Commericial.

[mtxbass1]

Umm, Nintendoes conference was an hour and a half Nintendo Commericial.

WRONG. There was no miniature car.

;)


Articles like you guys posted kill me. I bought a PS3 on Tuesday and after seeing Sony's conference yesterday it eliminated any doubts I was having about the purchase. Like Apossum said though, the media does cater to the lowest common denominator. I seriously thought Nintendo was going to call that thing the Power Pad for a minute there.

[The Mana Knight]

Personally I was pretty bored with the Sony conference, but they didn't show any of the PS3 exclusives I'm looking forward to. However, I would think that most people would consider Sony's press conference the best since they really did focus on a wide variety of games for longer then anyone else.It's because you don't even own a PS3; therefore, you don't care.
Forbes can suck my balls dry.QFT.
LOL Fuck Forbes... Sony press conference was ver solid, lots of titles, some additional exclusives... all the games looked good, there was nothing really disappointing. Forbes... just wants to cash in on negative press. Notice that while MS, and Nintendo was busy given stats in regards to their present day status, Sony was focusing on the future, and what they had to offer.QFT. Sony had the best showing by far.

Nintendo just continues to brainwash mainstream press, which may eventually lead to hardcore gaming being doomed. I'll be honest that I did like the Nintendo press conference better than the MS one, mostly because they announced Mario Kart Wii.

What does piss me off is that next to no one knew about Eyetoy Kinetic or some fitness game Xbox had last gen, which Nintendo appears to be copying. Oh course, the mass market will eat up Wii Fit, and act like Nintendo created the first fitness game and call everything a rip off. Also, I could see the mass market going crazy over the new blaster on Wii, saying it's all new, when it's basically the same as Time Crisis and House of the Dead (which have been out longer). I wouldn't be surprised if people dismiss Time Crisis 4 as a way to copy cat Nintendo.

[Sc4rfac3]

It's because you don't even own a PS3; therefore, you don't care.
QFT.
QFT. Sony had the best showing by far.

Nintendo just continues to brainwash mainstream press, which may eventually lead to hardcore gaming being doomed. I'll be honest that I did like the Nintendo press conference better than the MS one, mostly because they announced Mario Kart Wii.

What does piss me off is that next to no one knew about Eyetoy Kinetic or some fitness game Xbox had last gen, which Nintendo appears to be copying. Oh course, the mass market will eat up Wii Fit, and act like Nintendo created the first fitness game and call everything a rip off. Also, I could see the mass market going crazy over the new blaster on Wii, saying it's all new, when it's basically the same as Time Crisis and House of the Dead (which have been out longer). I wouldn't be surprised if people dismiss Time Crisis 4 as a way to copy cat Nintendo. Nintendo had the best showing. Sony was ok but the only thing that was good was MGS4. Killzone 2 was aight i'm not gonna buy a ps3 for it.

[The Mana Knight]

Nintendo had the best showing. Sony was ok but the only thing that was good was MGS4. Killzone 2 was aight i'm not gonna buy a ps3 for it.What are you smoking?? Killzone 2 was amazing and blows every next generation game away, seriously.

[Vinny]

If Sony drew yawns, then I'm shocked because their presentation was easily my favorite out of the three. Microsoft's was the most boring I though... and Nintendo's was pointless.

[Apossum]

Nintendo's was more of a cult meeting than anything.

An hour of self-stroking montages of a bunch of people saying how much they love Nintendo to grease you up for the long, boring demonstration of the Wii scale.

[mwynn]

Nintendo had the best showing. Sony was ok but the only thing that was good was MGS4. Killzone 2 was aight i'm not gonna buy a ps3 for it.
My dog is better than your dog.

[dallow]

Nintendo had the best showing. Sony was ok but the only thing that was good was MGS4. Killzone 2 was aight i'm not gonna buy a ps3 for it.What did you like best about Nintendo? All the pats on their own back?

[botticus]

Nintendo had a much better post-conference than conference. Again.

[rodeojones903]

All Nintendo's conference made me want to do is sell of my Wii while I can still get more than $250 for it.

[The Mana Knight]

All Nintendo's conference made me want to do is sell of my Wii while I can still get more than $250 for it.Maybe I should take your Wii. ;) But, I'll probably just buy a slim PSP instead.

[K_G]

Its a f-ing press conference for "journalists", who shouldn't be cheering and shouting like some rock concert but rather taking notes and observing. Its funny that for all the comments about E3 being low key,most of them are related to journalists complaining that the junket train isn't as sweet as in the past.

In watching the conferences myself on G4, I was started to wonder why I need journalists at all to filter this info.

[dallow]

Its a f-ing press conference for "journalists", who shouldn't be cheering and shouting like some rock concert but rather taking notes and observing. Its funny that for all the comments about E3 being low key,most of them are related to journalists complaining that the junket train isn't as sweet as in the past.

In watching the conferences myself on G4, I was started to wonder why I need journalists at all to filter this info.Past shows have had "journalists" shouting and whistling, ooohing, and aweing.

[Apossum]

All Nintendo's conference made me want to do is sell of my Wii while I can still get more than $250 for it.


save it until Xmas, then sell it the first week of december for maximum damage :)

[whoknows]

What are you smoking?? Killzone 2 was amazing and blows every next generation game away, seriously.
Replace Killzone with MGS4 and I agree with you ;)

Killzone was pretty great though.

Nintendo's conference was painful though. I was embarassed for them during the Wii Fit presentation.

[Vinny]

Replace Killzone with MGS4 and I agree with you ;)

Killzone was pretty great though.

Nintendo's conference was painful though. I was embarassed for them during the Wii Fit presentation.

You and me both.:lol:

[Dr Mario Kart]

USA today (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-07-11-wii-balance-board_N.htm) also confirms that gaming is doomed

[Zoglog]

USA today (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-07-11-wii-balance-board_N.htm) also confirms that gaming is doomed

Thanks adding to topic, Nintendo is just dominating!~

[botticus]

I wasn't going to mention BusinessWeek (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2007/tc20070711_447691.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives), because they say apparently the Wii Zapper was the killer app of the event, but since we're piling on. :lol:

[Dr Mario Kart]

To be fair, these are folks which really never cared about gaming in the first place. So what impresses gamers about traditional games was probably never reported on like this at any point in the industry.

[Zoglog]

I wasn't going to mention BusinessWeek (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2007/tc20070711_447691.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives), because they say apparently the Wii Zapper was the killer app of the event, but since we're piling on. :lol:

Man that Article is full of crap,

Sony Makes Strides

Sony was no slouch at E3 either. The company began its event at Sony's Culver City, Calif., studios with a presentation from President and CEO Jack Tretton—or more precisely his avatar. The virtual Tretton talked up the company's PlayStation Home, a 3D virtual community similar to Second Life. "The interactive content-sharing features of PlayStation Home, combined with the library of innovative downloadable games and entertainment, truly push the boundaries of our customer's imaginations and deliver on the promise of an integrated content and community service," said Tretton, in a press release. Users will be able to launch multiplayer online games at home, and watch Blu-ray discs.

Sony also unveiled a new game, Haze, which is similar to Microsoft's popular Halo in many ways, including the name.

With the flurry of new games and products, it's not clear which company will be the most successful console maker in the years ahead. Can Nintendo keep up its astonishing momentum? Can Sony and Microsoft fight back effectively? Certainly, the battle will be waged for a long time. Perhaps there's only one clear winner who will emerge from this year's E3: the growing community of gamers.

We all know they drew Yawns, competitor? more like scrambling to catch up lols...

[dallow]

Sony also unveiled a new game, Haze, which is similar to Microsoft's popular Halo in many ways, including the name.

:)

Oh these "grown ups" make me laugh.

[zewone]

lawlz @ the Wii Scale and Sony Defense Force.

Yeah, the media doesn't know what it's talking about, but you guys and your raging hard-ons for the PS3/PSP are insane.

[elwood731]

Perhaps there's only one clear winner who will emerge from this year's E3: the growing community of gamers.

Ugh, I hate writing cliches like this.

[apokalipze2]

lawlz @ the Wii Scale and Sony Defense Force.

Yeah, the media doesn't know what it's talking about, but you guys and your raging hard-ons for the PS3/PSP are insane.I agree :lol::lol::lol:

[Kaijufan]

It's because you don't even own a PS3; therefore, you don't care.

Sure I care, I plan on getting a PS3 someday. I just was hoping to see at least one of the exclusives I was looking forward to (Lair, LA Noir, Final Fantasy VS XIII, and Heavy Rain). Pretty much everything other major game they showed I either would rather have the 360 or PC version (UT3, RE5, CoD4), or don't care about (MGS, Killzone).
Of course, overall Sony had the best conference with their focus on the games, but it certainly wasn't my favorite (much like Return of the Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film, but I know Empire is the best).

[Maynard]

lawlz @ the Wii Scale and Sony Defense Force.

Yeah, the media doesn't know what it's talking about, but you guys and your raging hard-ons for the PS3/PSP are insane.

I dont think it's a raging hard on, i think it's the fact that the same people always come in and try to knock the system and it's annoying.

I have barely EVER posted in the Wii forum and honestly I don't care too much for my Wii right now at all. If it wasn't for Resident Evil 4 (old game) I wouldn't have even played it in the last 2 months. Do you see me posting in the Wii forums about how the system is Doomed?

I love my 360, but question some of the games sometimes and thought that the overall feel of the conference sucked for them, but all i said in those forums was "that was a weak show" or something to that degree.

It is not about having a raging hard on for the system it is the fact that people coming in here for no other reason than to make your silly posts about how PS3 is DOOMED! If you honestly believe that Sony is going to bow out and there will be no PS4 your fucking insane.

SO DMK go back to your Nintendo forum and Men going your own way website and leave the PS3 forums alone. WE know you dont like Next Gen, so shut the fuck up about it. It is people like you, gizmogic or whatever his name is that make this fucking place feel like gamefaqs sometimes.

I dont have any major issues with you Zewone, my only thing is that you seem very artsy fartsy and have one of those artsy fartsy ego's where you think your shit doesn't stink, but thats just my opinion. At least you dont troll and your art stuff that you do is pretty cool too.

[trq]

wii scale was a hit. just like britney spears, the spice girls, and 50 cent are hits...can't go wrong with the lowest common denominator.

Oh, if only Microsoft and Sony could have had some success with their high-falutin' artsy fartsy games like Halo and GTA! Why more fratboys and foul-mouthed thirteen year olds didn't play them, I'll never know!

Ahem.

Anyway, while I may agree that Sony had the best conference out of the three (though it's an understatement to call that faint praise), I think the point that everyone here is missing is that the mainstream media is so interested in Nintendo's product. No, the Forbes correspondant probably couldn't take any of us in Street Fighter, but yeah, he may know something about how to diagnose a market that Random Internet Asshole #11397 does not. There could be a valid discussion about that. Or that what was covered and what wasn't probably speaks volumes about what the "mainstream" is interested in. But by all means, let's return to such bon mots as "Killzone is the greatest game ever!"

Ugh, I hate writing cliches like this.

"It's a great time to be a gamer!" :lol:

[The Mana Knight]

Replace Killzone with MGS4 and I agree with you ;)

Killzone was pretty great though.

Nintendo's conference was painful though. I was embarassed for them during the Wii Fit presentation.MGS4 is very amazing too. It's actually hard for me to say which video I prefer. I just mention Killzone 2 a lot, because it made me forget the MS conference and made me not want to watch the Nintendo conference (since it was boring).
I dont think it's a raging hard on, i think it's the fact that the same people always come in and try to knock the system and it's annoying.

I have barely EVER posted in the Wii forum and honestly I don't care too much for my Wii right now at all. If it wasn't for Resident Evil 4 (old game) I wouldn't have even played it in the last 2 months. Do you see me posting in the Wii forums about how the system is Doomed?

I love my 360, but question some of the games sometimes and thought that the overall feel of the conference sucked for them, but all i said in those forums was "that was a weak show" or something to that degree.

It is not about having a raging hard on for the system it is the fact that people coming in here for no other reason than to make your silly posts about how PS3 is DOOMED! If you honestly believe that Sony is going to bow out and there will be no PS4 your fucking insane.

SO DMK go back to your Nintendo forum and Men going your own way website and leave the PS3 forums alone. WE know you dont like Next Gen, so shut the fuck up about it. It is people like you, gizmogic or whatever his name is that make this fucking place feel like gamefaqs sometimes.

I dont have any major issues with you Zewone, my only thing is that you seem very artsy fartsy and have one of those artsy fartsy ego's where you think your shit doesn't stink, but thats just my opinion. At least you dont troll and your art stuff that you do is pretty cool too.QFT, although I can't stand Zewone.

[Zoglog]

QFT, although I can't stand Zewone.

What are joo talking about man? Zewone is cool, he brags about jacking noob kids in FFXI!

[gunm]

It makes perfect sense that the company that is trying to cater to people who read Forbes, The Washington Post, and USAToday is the one getting the accolades from those very same media outlets.

[zewone]

QFT, although I can't stand Zewone.
I <3 you too!

What are joo talking about man? Zewone is cool, he brags about jacking noob kids in FFXI!
lawlz, you use to be the cat girl and have internet sex with men for gil.

[The Mana Knight]

I <3 you too!Well, I just thought you hated me because I support Sony. :(

[Zoglog]

I <3 you too!


lawlz, you use to be the cat girl and have internet sex with men for gil.

yes it wasn't for the +dex boost at all, I wanted to use the nonexistant /sex command for gil lols...

Why you mixing fiction with the truth oh dear zewone?

[ryanbph]

I finally got to watch all 3 of the press conferences...IMO, there wasn't a winner as they all were rather poorly presented...WTF was the sony guy doing going on and on how nervous he was...all three of them were just showing us updated trailers of games we already knew about...there wasn't a single thing showed, that made me go holy shit...yes the killzone trailer looked awsome, as did mgs4...but neither are due this year, and neither were really anymore impressive then prior trailers we have seen for the games

[The Mana Knight]

I finally got to watch all 3 of the press conferences...IMO, there wasn't a winner as they all were rather poorly presented...WTF was the sony guy doing going on and on how nervous he was...all three of them were just showing us updated trailers of games we already knew about...there wasn't a single thing showed, that made me go holy shit...yes the killzone trailer looked nice, as did mgs4...but neither are due this year, and neither were really anymore impressive then prior trailers we have seen for the gamesJack Tretton is a good guy, but he gets nervous really easily when talking in public. I was hoping someone else would talk, but he is the head of SCEA anyway.

[Zoglog]

I finally got to watch all 3 of the press conferences...IMO, there wasn't a winner as they all were rather poorly presented...WTF was the sony guy doing going on and on how nervous he was...all three of them were just showing us updated trailers of games we already knew about...there wasn't a single thing showed, that made me go holy shit...yes the killzone trailer looked nice, as did mgs4...but neither are due this year, and neither were really anymore impressive then prior trailers we have seen for the games

it's called humility from getting their asses whooped by a public perception of arrogance.

doesn't matter though, Nintendo wins unanimously.

[Thomas96]

these 3 sources know nothing about the games industry, all comepeting against one another for a ever so popular negative Sony story... and they barely reviewed most of the products that were intruduced at the show...

[lanleague]

Nintendo had a piss-poor showing, and to be honest, the Wii hasn't been interesting in several months. Scrapping Wi-Fi from Metroid Prime 3 was a horrible mistake, and leaving Brawl out of the show, well, big mistake.

[Zoglog]

Nintendo had a piss-poor showing, and to be honest, the Wii hasn't been interesting in several months. Scrapping Wi-Fi from Metroid Prime 3 was a horrible mistake, and leaving Brawl out of the show, well, big mistake.

it's ok, Metroid Prime 3 will suck ass anyway just like the first 2. Wii Fit and the plastic moulded zapper is where itz at!

[seanr1221]

Watching The Loop on AOTS right now. Out of the 3 guys, 2 say Sony had the best showing, and 1 said MS did.

All 3 agree Nintendo lost sight of their hardcore gamer crowd this E3.

Sorry, just felt like being a reverse Dr Mario Kart for a bit.