Beware Ebay seller:Andrew R. Arnold aka haztheillest

[Missingdata]

Here is my story:

I was on ebay buying a xbox and I saw his auction then I won his auction, and I paid for the product... few week later, the xbox come, and I was happy but when I open it the xbox is different from what he put on ebay, so I send him an email asking for an exchange, he say yes so I send in the xbox....

Here is the problem:

Few weeks after I send back the xbox I got no respond, and I know he got the xbox because I got the comfirmation, so I email him and ask him what happen. He ask me to send him $16 for the shipping, and I say "No, why should I pay for shipping it's you that make the mistake of shipping me the wrong xbox, and I ask for a refund." then few minute later I got his reply, this is wht he said "ok, take english class, send me 16$".....

and now I m pissed b/c he won't give me my refund nor my xbox, and he also insulted my English (i know my english is not good, but his english is not any better then mine.) So my CAG.com Friend wht should I do to get my money back from him?

[scdoanintendo]

You can threaten him with filing a refund discrepency. That is if you want a refund. I say call his bluff with this threat and take it from there. How is his feedback? If it is good I doubt he'll risk negative feedback.

[thatstoobad]

what was different about the xbox he sent you?

[Missingdata]

Last time I check his feedbacks are very low... (6)

[doraemonkerpal]

save all his e-mails!

[bignick]

if feedback is that low, a negative might not change his mind. He an open a new account, and thats that. Did you pay with paypal? You can request a refund there.

[Missingdata]

Guys... This morning when I open my email the seller send my a message contain some threaten message, this is what he said, "be carefull, ill send your ass back where you came from." What should I do now, I don't want any trouble I just want my money back.

[Ikohn4ever]

dont be bullied around by some loser, file a claim with ebay, dont pull your punches. He is jerkin u around and you should not have to take it.

[Grave_Addiction]

Guys... This morning when I open my email the seller send my a message contain some threaten message, this is what he said, "be carefull, ill send your ass back where you came from." What should I do now, I don't want any trouble I just want my money back.

I highly doubt he intends to back up any of his threats. Did you happen to pay with Paypal? If so, talk with them about getting your money back.

Like what someone else asked, what was so different about the one he sent you than the one that was posted in the auction?

Post a link to the auction, so we can look at it.

[Missingdata]

Sorry I didn't use paypal, I use money order...

the link of the auction ok... I will put it up later.

[Ikohn4ever]

this guy has a 75% ranking with 6 feedbacks total, never buy from someonelike that

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=haztheillest

[MauMauProductions]

Eek. Good luck getting your money or Xbox back man...

[Grave_Addiction]

Maybe there's a reason why he won't use Paypal.

Edit: Damn, I hope this isn't your auction!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8112382 033

He used the old Xbox box trick and sold it for $122. Man, that is really shitty people do that. Even his title was Perfect Xbox with 2 games, but you have to read the description to know it's a box.

[Ravaged]

Wow that really is bullshit man. Sorry, but when I grow up and become a paid assassin I'll glady take him ou....... Err, yea you should talk with Ebay. You should tell them that if they don't get your money back, RavagedzIgzAg is going to open a can of whoop ass on ya'll. Oh and don't take that shit from that moron.

[Aryss]

Report it to Ebay and request his personal info. Keep everything you have in emails. You can try to get him for mail fraud also. It is illegal to deceive and it is clear he was doing that but in the end you might not get back your money. All you can do is report. The threat email can be turned over to the police which is what you might want to do. I would get his actual address and contact the local police for that area and file a police report for physical threats.. I know it works since I have seen it. At this point, I would go after him with a vengeance, but that's just me.

You could always get a few local CAGS to pay a visit to Lancaster, PA. :evil:

[xxdeadp0olxx]

Maybe there's a reason why he won't use Paypal.

Edit: Damn, I hope this isn't your auction!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8112382 033

He used the old Xbox box trick and sold it for $122. Man, that is really shitty people do that. Even his title was Perfect Xbox with 2 games, but you have to read the description to know it's a box.

Man, what a scumbag. People need to learn to read the whole item description before bidding on things. Too many scammers out there.

I really hope you (Missingdata) get your money back from this lowlife.

[n2x0000]

Another bad Ebay experience. When will people learn? This guy must be a real piece of work to try and pull crap like that on Ebay.


I got his reply, this is wht he said "ok, take english class, send me 16$".....


At least he has tinge of class.

[adamsappel]

"Xbox box"? Oh, that's low. It's getting to the point where eBay needs to do something better to police auctions and prevent this sort of scam.

[Squirms]

Guys a perfect candidate for a mail bomb.

[Missingdata]

Thank guy for the advice, I did send a letter to ebay this morning about my problem, now i m waiting for reply,, and how long does it take for ebay to take action?

[Missingdata]

Maybe there's a reason why he won't use Paypal.

Edit: Damn, I hope this isn't your auction!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8112382 033

He used the old Xbox box trick and sold it for $122. Man, that is really shitty people do that. Even his title was Perfect Xbox with 2 games, but you have to read the description to know it's a box.

That not wht I bid... I bid another xbox from him...

Post link later, internet slow today, don't know y

[cougartai]

that has to be the crappiest thing i've seen all day.

[johnnyoski]

Did you read his feedback before you bid??
No way I would have bid on anything from this bum based on his ebay record.

[cougartai]

Did you read his feedback before you bid??
No way I would have bid on anything from this bum based on his ebay record.

yeah and check out what he did when he recieved negative feedback. he went and did the crybaby thing and ruined other people's feedback records. he even called someone an arab.

[gamefreak117]

what a low life punk.., this guys like a bum!

like in one of his auctions, he put a used computer chip in his dirty carpet, and took a picture of it like that. also hes racist!

Didnt pay for item, learn how to read you arab, IT SAYS XBOX BOX! Seller haztheillest( 6 ) Jun-23-04 15:43 8112382033
Reply by *hess*: Item in wrong category -Had a Xbox box in the Xbox "Systems" category(misleading Jun-24-04 07:01

I hope you good luck. :wink:

[Missingdata]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8110570520&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWN:IT

Here is the Ebay item that i bid...

I know, I know, it say broken xbox, but the broken xbox that I receive didn't fit his Description. In his description he stated "Broken xbox. after i got a error, and stop playing games, i opened it up to see what it looks like. Comes with just the BROKEN xbox" but what I receive is a broken xbox with the name "Jason" written all over it, and inside the motherboard there is ABC gums (alrady been chrew gums) not to metion the name "Jason", and the xbox hdd, power supply was all mess up, even the cd rom rack, and the hd rack have been taken off, so I request for a exchange, he say ok, but when he got the xbox back he won't exchange it nor refund my money and he also threaten me like my above post stated.

(if there is any English error give forgive me, I try my best to correct it)

[gamefreak117]

lol, I didn't read the previous posts about this guy being a bum and racist while I was posting.. what timing. :?

[Missingdata]

Just one little question, since ebay have many scammer why won't ebay set up an IP blocker to block those scammer IP address?

[XboxMaster]

Just one little question, since ebay have many scammer why won't ebay set up an IP blocker to block those scammer IP address?


No shit! People spend thousands of dollars on there everyday and they don't even ban IP addresses?

[Zenithian Legend]

(if there is any English error give forgive me, I try my best to correct it)

Wow... you could at least TRY to use some grammar in that statement about trying to use better English.

On to business...

First and foremost, you can dick his rating even lower by leaving him a negative, he's already apparently left you positive feedback so you have nothing to lose there.

Second it's possible people on here could all contact him with threatening messages, eventually driving him insane. You could also give us his other contact info, such as his email address or better yet, shipping address (you kept that right?)

Finally, you just need to be more careful. People with really shitty ratings have them for a reason.

Ultimately I don't see this working out for you unless you drive/fly/take a boat to this guy's residence and beat your money out of him. Nine times out of ten someone pulling a scam like that is a little kid, so you may wish to send a letter addressed to a MR or MRS and then the last name on the shipping address. Other than that chalk it up as one of life's pain in the ass lessons.

[controlcommerce]

Ebay has a good fraud program. I been through it 3 or 4 years ago because some A-hole sold me a broken sega CD. It's really easy to go though. Ebay will end up paying you most of the money and ban the seller for life if the case is in your favor. Please save all the emails he sent you. Your sure to win if he's saying comments like that. Just say the word and I'll post my expierence and the steps of the ebay fraud porgram.

[controlcommerce]

Ebay's fraud program:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-fraud-protection.html

[Zenithian Legend]

Ebay's fraud program:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-fraud-protection.html

Without a doubt the most helpful advice yet, but what would I know... I'm just a horse.