FFXIII "is a mess right now..."

[botticus]

... and might not be out in Japan until the end of 08.

So says Game Informer in the August issue. Nothing concrete, just "word on the street." I haven't followed the accuracy of GI rumors, so this may or may not be anything to worry about.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171837

[Apossum]

... and might not be out in Japan until the end of 08.

So says Game Informer in the August issue. Nothing concrete, just "word on the street." I haven't followed the accuracy of GI rumors, so this may or may not be anything to worry about.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171837


GI is pretty legit. S-E should take their time. FFXII was a mess for a long time, but turned out great, imo.

[botticus]

Without the article in front of me, I'm not sure how the statement "the localization process is expected to take a year" fits in. If they're trying to hit worldwide in a reasonable time frame, that might be a good portion of the time between now and end of 08. If it's additional, a US release date of late 2009 would be kinda crazy. But it does mean the PS3 will be cheap when I feel like playing FFXIII if I don't have one already.

[whoknows]

GI is pretty legit. S-E should take their time. FFXII was a mess for a long time, but turned out great, imo.
Way to dissapoint Apossum.

I was expecting your "That's it. Sony's finished" line. :lol:

[The Mana Knight]

I read about a 40GB PS3, but with no BC. Not a bad idea, but that only confuses consumers.

[panasonic]

no bc is shit the ps3 firmware has software bc in it.

[mykevermin]

What in the hell are you talking about, Mana Knight and panasonic?

Now, if FFXIII *is* a mess, I don't mind, under one condition: Bring FFXII:International Zodiac Job System to the US.

[Apossum]

Way to dissapoint Apossum.

I was expecting your "That's it. Sony's finished" line. :lol:


No, it was over when the red light on the controller in the box art for the 80gb wasn't evenly distributed :lol:
everything after is just piss on the grave!

[panasonic]

What in the hell are you talking about, Mana Knight and panasonic?

Now, if FFXIII *is* a mess, I don't mind, under one condition: Bring FFXII:International Zodiac Job System to the US.
if you check the source, it also says a $399 40gb model without backwards compatibility will be available.


Loose Talk:

PS3 Achievements: Games coming out this Holiday season will have them. Similar to the 360 where an achievement notice pops up. Not sure if 3rd parties will be required to do the same.

New PSP

PS3 Price Drop: They say that a $399 40gig version is on the way, but it will have no backwards compatibility. They actually expected to hear the announcement at E3 on it. So they may have just heard different rumblings altogether.

FF XIII: Word is the game is a mess right now and the localization process is expected to take a year. Expects game will not come out in Japan until the end of 08.

[Zoglog]

actually GI are the people that claimed spore was delayed "indefinetly" which turned out to be false.

[hiccupleftovers]

if it doesn't have BC than it makes the system even more crap. You know how many people have PS2s and how many PS2 games are out there?

[whoknows]

if it doesn't have BC than it makes the system even more crap. You know how many people have PS2s and how many PS2 games are out there?
Way to live up to your custom user title.

[dallow]

Impossible for it not to have BC.
Rumor is false.

You know how many people have PS2s and how many PS2 games are out there?With so many PS2s out there, guess they don't need a PS3 for those games. ;)

[coolz481]

The most recent EGM featured Final Fantasy XIII and didn't mention any issues. In fact, the producer/director was quoted as hoping to have a demo out before the end of the year. Just having finished FFXII last week, I hope they don't go back to a separate battle screen and keep the gambits or some variation. One change I hope they make is to differentiate the abilities of the characters - this zodiac version sounds interesting.

[The Mana Knight]

FFXIII will not be related to FFXII in anyway. Square Enix had a completely different team make FFXII (makers of Ogre Battle, FFT, Vagrant Story, etc.). The game will be handled by the first production team thankfully, who did FFX, FFX-2, etc.

[Vanigan]

Sony has two methods of BC, hardware through the PS2 emotion engine inside the PS3, and software through emulation software added to the system.

To completely disable the hardware emulation means simply removing the hardware, but it remove the software emulation actually takes active time and effort from Sony programmers, which costs extra money, so I don't see that happening.

Probably all they meant by the $399 rumor was a $40 gb PS3 with no emotion engine, no wireless. However, that doesn't look like it's happening.

On the other hand the PS3 on the whole pushes bluray sales both directly and indirectly, regardless of what us gamers think of bluray.

[Chacrana]

So what exactly are we talking about in this thread and why are the majority of you so fucking retarded?

[mykevermin]

The game will be handled by the first production team thankfully, who did FFX, FFX-2, etc.

I know nobody takes your opinions seriously already, but :shock:.

[Kendro]

Well that kinda sucks. I don't want to wait 2+ years for the next true FF game. Kinda funny but Final Fantasy X used to be my undisputed favorite FF game but XII snuck up on me to be my 2nd favorite edging out FFIV (even funnier is I hated XII at first). So I'm not sure how I feel about the X team handling XIII because I liked the spirit of XII just as much.

Too bad they can't get X's story team and XII's gameplay team to make an uber epic FF game.

[Zoglog]

apparently you people forgot how long it took FFX and FFXII to come out. This is nothing new.....

[Kendro]

Well XII was the black sheep taking forever but most FF games had a decent timetable for releases.

FFVII - 9/97
FFVIII - 9/99
FFIX - 11/00
FFX - 12/01
FFX-2 - 11/03
FFXII - 10/06

[Zoglog]

FFX-2 does not count as a real "core FF" series.

[Vendetta]

I think I read in a different forum that the PS3 has trouble running Unreal Engine 3 games. Hopefully they'll sort that out, and hopefully that'll help fix whatever problems FFXIII is having. I couldn't get into FFXII really, and I'm a huge FF fan, so it kind of feels like I've been without a proper FF since FFX.

I actually enjoyed the battle system in XII, but the story and (IMO) drab depiction of Ivalice didn't do it for me. Judging from the few screens we've seen, it at least looks like the locales in XIII will be a little more exciting.

I'm really curious to see how Versus is coming along too. I'm assuming that Nomura working on that means KH3 is far, far away, which is too bad. KH3 in 2008 would've been a nice boon for Sony.

[KingBroly]

Well, you gotta remember they changed to UE3 late last year. So, they have to change the entire game basically. It's not surprising that these problems have risen. But since UE3 is now being optimized for PS3, it should help the game along.

[thespamofpower]

Well, you gotta remember they changed to UE3 late last year. So, they have to change the entire game basically. It's not surprising that these problems have risen. But since UE3 is now being optimized for PS3, it should help the game along.

Final Fantasy XIII is not using the Unreal Engine 3, it uses the White Engine. The only news about the UE3 and Square-Enix was that they have licensed it from Epic. I forget which game it was going to be used for (might have been that 360 shooter or Versus).

[Apossum]

since when is FFXIII using UE3?

it's on the white engine. the one S-E built for the PS3.

[mkelehan]

since when is FFXIII using UE3?

it's on the white engine. the one S-E built for the PS3.
...and 360. I'm just saying.

The last game I remember everyone saying was a "mess" in development was the original Metroid Prime. That ended up being fantastic.

[mwynn]

The white engine was designed for the PS2 then moved to the ps3. It would needed serious development time to work on the 360.

[Apossum]

...and 360. I'm just saying.

The last game I remember everyone saying was a "mess" in development was the original Metroid Prime. That ended up being fantastic.


I know wiki isn't the most reliable, but it's sourced as only being for the PS3...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_engine

[Surferflames]

White is PS3 only, UE3 is being used on Last Remnant. I think S-E is a bit too ambitious with their shopping cart of XIII's. XIII and Versus were plenty, but there are just so many now that I really hope they don't rush things out and put the wrong people on the right projects.

[dpatel]

since when is FFXIII using UE3?

it's on the white engine. the one S-E built for the PS3.

Correct. I believe they will use the Unreal engine for future titles though.

[Vanigan]

Late next year seems about right.

What you have to realize about these RPGs is beyond the technical problems, all RPGs have a huge amount of content to produce, whether that's art, special animations, music, voice, etc... Then you have to make it all look good together. There's just no shortcuts with these.

[ogbaka]

i can't wait for a ff on 360... possible port?

[Vanigan]

That depends on Sony's relationship with Square right now. It's strained, and no doubt Sony is working on a way to keep Square in line with the PS3. We'll just have to see.

There is word that regardless of FF13's exclusivity, the Versus 13 game was never meant to be exclusive, so could make the console rounds.

[Zoglog]

I think I read in a different forum that the PS3 has trouble running Unreal Engine 3 games. Hopefully they'll sort that out, and hopefully that'll help fix whatever problems FFXIII is having. I couldn't get into FFXII really, and I'm a huge FF fan, so it kind of feels like I've been without a proper FF since FFX.

I actually enjoyed the battle system in XII, but the story and (IMO) drab depiction of Ivalice didn't do it for me. Judging from the few screens we've seen, it at least looks like the locales in XIII will be a little more exciting.

I'm really curious to see how Versus is coming along too. I'm assuming that Nomura working on that means KH3 is far, far away, which is too bad. KH3 in 2008 would've been a nice boon for Sony.

Actually that news was fixed at the Sony press conference and all the UE3 problems are gone. In fact Sony and Epic are now buddy buddy, hence the time exclusive for UT 3 on the ps3.

but yeah, irrelevant since the game uses white engine. And thank god, too many damn games using the unreal 3 engine, gets a bit boring.

[Chacrana]

i can't wait for a ff on 360... possible port?

No.

[Apossum]

No.


stfu fanboy!!! It's coming to the 360 and it's gonna have achievements, which will make it the better version by far.

[Chacrana]

stfu fanboy!!! It's coming to the 360 and it's gonna have achievements.

Yeah, I achieved something with your mom last night.

[Apossum]

Yeah, I achieved something with your mom last night.


Oh yeah, well did you get all the achievements in Madden 2008....HAY WAIT A MINUTE

[Chacrana]

Oh yeah, well did you get all the achievements in Madden 2008....HAY WAIT A MINUTE

Lawl you make discovery!

[daroga]

i can't wait for a ff on 360... possible port?It's kinda the same thing as MGS4. Nothing's been announced and really, no one would be too surprised if they stayed exclusive to the PS3. On the other hand, there would be no double-takes made if they got ported to the 360 either.

[thespamofpower]

It's kinda the same thing as MGS4. Nothing's been announced and really, no one would be too surprised if they stayed exclusive to the PS3. On the other hand, there would be no double-takes made if they got ported to the 360 either.

I agree that FFXIII is kinda like MGS4, but in a different way. No matter what news comes out to the contrary, some people will still belive that it will be ported over to the 360. I'm not saying that it will or won't, just that some people won't accept exclusivity news in favor of the PS3.

[H.Cornerstone]

Yeah, I achieved something with your mom last night.

Best your mom joke I have heard in a while. :)

FF XII uses the white engine, just to add. And I agree, RPG's take a while to make, and considering how Square Enix is not a rush to get the game out, it's going to take a while.

[mykevermin]

some people won't accept exclusivity news in favor of the PS3.

The most obvious thing I've read on these forums in ages, yet also something that few people consider (myself included). Good form.