BIOSHOCK - Gen. Discussion & Info

[Popnmusic]

Took about 4.5 hours for me. Wow. I was stuck on 70% for an hour.

[CrimGhost]

Roger Ebert needs to play this fucking game, it's a work of art! Nobody can deny that after they've played just a few minutes of it. Loved the feeling of the game, took a lot of time just looking at random stuff in the game.

[elwood731]

Fantastic demo. Far better than anything else I've seen this year. The demo makes it a must buy--maybe even day one, which I never do.

[ahou]

didn't really have trouble downloading the demo, didn't exactly time it but probably under an hour or so to finish the download.

anyway the game looked great a definite buy at release game for me. As said before the atmosphere is very well done, got creeped out at some parts but mainly due to the fact that I get scared easily :lol:

[mr ryles]

:drool:

Great visuals, great sound to accompany, great setting, and what appears to be a great story.

[btw1217]

Amazing game, but not for me :-( I just never got in to the whole creepy game kinda thing. Doesn't mean I don't think this is an amazing game though. Very well done.

[mr ryles]

I see this as being a game where I will play for about 10 hours straight the day I get it.

[seen]

Took about 4.5 hours for me. Wow. I was stuck on 70% for an hour.

yea soooooooo slllllllllooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww :drool:

[Trakan]

Started it at quarter to nine last night, and right now, as of quarter to five in the morning, it's at 65%. Awesome.

[DustHimself]

Wow, I got it downloaded in like under an hour i think last light. It's a great demo, yeah, and I find it hilarious that aparently you can get drunk, even if only for 5 seconds. Quickest buzz ever.

Yeah, great demo though. Loved it. I'm not getting it day one though, maybe a couple weeks after.

[aerotive]

The water effects are top notch. And I like the whole art-deco look of the city.

[mykevermin]

I like the whole art-deco look of the city.

That's the first thing that drew me in (along with the glimpse of the underwater Ayn Rand-inspired dystopia). What ambience!

The game is at beautiful and atmospheric as I expected. Just gorgeous and creepy. a little less interactive (in the environment) than I expected, but that's about the only negative I've found so far.

Did anyone notice (I suppose it's a spoiler, but want to keep kids happy) that Andrew Ryan looked stunningly similar to Orson Wells?

[darthbudge]

Wow all I have to say is Wow. That was definately worth all the trouble. But this demo actually made it worse for me, now I reallly can't wait for August 21st. Also did anyone have trouble in the room with the security turret? I died there several times trying to beat that room.

Also did anyone else notice the dead big daddy? I just wonder what killed it.

[nyprimus4]

Got to 84% by background downloading for something like 7 hours. Then I wake up and it says you can't download this item. Now I'm back to 3% and crawling again. I love paying for premium services when people paying nothing have the demo already.

[Rei no Otaku]

That demo was really good. Game looks like it's going to be even better than I thought it would be.

[seanr1221]

What! This is fucking bullshit. I leave my 360 on low power download all night, and it didn't go up at all! It just stayed at 33%! So not only did I probably shave a year off my 360's life, but it didn't benefit me at all. fucking. bull. shit.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yeah, this download was ridiculous. Between this and the trouble I had getting Stranglehold, I don't know what MS is doing. I started it at like 11 last night, let it download in standby all night, and it was at 92% this morning. I had to cancel and re-download it like 5 times for it to finally finish...

[seanr1221]

I just deleted it and restarted the whole thing. I'm convinced this will pretty much kill my 360 though.

[CaseyRyback]

They really need to institute lines for big downloads like this. That way the people who start the download first get their shit done in a timely manner and so does everyone else who downloads (they may have to wait to download, but once it starts it goes fast).

And myke did you watch the opening video (not the one in game, but at the menu)? When they pan down there is a KNO radio station featured prominently.

[seanr1221]

I just don't know what happened this time. I went from midnight till now (9:30am) and look where I'm at. 1% because I had to start over. On one hand I'm happy BioShock, but on the other I'm pissed if this kills my 360 before Halo 3 :lol:

I guess in retrospect though, I shouldn't have left it on all night.

[mykevermin]

They really need to institute lines for big downloads like this. That way the people who start the download first get their shit done in a timely manner and so does everyone else who downloads (they may have to wait to download, but once it starts it goes fast).

And myke did you watch the opening video (not the one in game, but at the menu)? When they pan down there is a KNO radio station featured prominently.

If they institute lines, they'll need to prioritize both the first to log on and start downloads (obviously), and also prioritize Gold over Silver members, lest they infuriate those who are paying for the service.

I noticed what you mentioned in the spoiler, but I'm afraid I miss the reference. If anything, it reminds me of RKO, whose stations broadcast War of the Worlds originally.

[CaseyRyback]

That is what I was alluding to. I was just pointing it out as it further substantiates your claim made earlier of the character being based on that particular person.

[seanr1221]

Huzzah! Now I'm stuck at 1% :lol:

[ananag112]

I think there should be a peer to peer like service as well where if you finished downloading the game, you can help upload it as well to other members.

[VanillaGorilla]

I would rather just wait the extra week and rent the game, instead of blowing the initial amazement period on a demo. When I play this game the FIRST time, I want to be able to do EVERYTHING, with the full retail copy. Playing a demo of BioShock is like art fans back in the day getting a "sneak peek" of the Mona Lisa before it's even finished.

[PhoenixT]

I think there should be a peer to peer like service as well where if you finished downloading the game, you can help upload it as well to other members.

god no I hate that peer to peer crap I always get worse downloads from that than I do from the source. WoW does this and it makes a 30 meg patch take an hr sometimes just due to losing connection with other gamers and waiting to pick up another freaking miserable! >_<

P.S. Sorry if that came out harsh I"m just very touchy about peer to peer downloads as you can see they commonly don't work well for me.

[CAG 79]

I agree with others about how good this game is going to be. Everything from the atmosphere, gameplay, level design all look top notch. Definitely a contender for GOTY.

[ananag112]

god no I hate that peer to peer crap I always get worse downloads from that than I do from the source. WoW does this and it makes a 30 meg patch take an hr sometimes just due to losing connection with other gamers and waiting to pick up another freaking miserable! >_<

P.S. Sorry if that came out harsh I"m just very touchy about peer to peer downloads as you can see they commonly don't work well for me.

No worries :).

I see your point, but I am saying if they allow that in addition to their own private servers. That way if the servers are getting hammered, it would automatically switch them to other people. It can only benefit you.

[doubledown]

I didn't even checkif mine finished or not. I used the low-power download method last night (I LOVE that feature). I guess XBOX Live went down last night, so that is why some may have been stuck. I was 22% after 45 minutes last night before I shut it down to low power mode.

[Mr Unoriginal]

Is there a lot of 'gameplay' in the demo like shooting, using your powers etc or is it mostly just exploration?

[Sc4rfac3]

You guys had problems getting it. I got it in no time at all last night as soon as my bro said it was up. This game is fucking awesome. i gotta buy it first day it comes out. Its not a lot of shooting but its enough to keep you happy.

[Maynard]

I am excited so many of you guys are excited considering I thought not many of you played and 'Shock' games. If your looking for a great title to tide you over for one week and scare the living shit out of you (im serious) do yourself a favor and play system shock 2. I dont normally recommend it but theres a torrent of it and the game is top notch. The demo is amazing but hey we knew it would be.

Scorch will back me up on that.

All in all I have been waiting 8 years for this game cause I knew after system shock 2 they weren't done.

I have to say the texture work is phenominal and so is the lighting. Great radiosity and normal mapping.

[seanr1221]

Deleted and started again because I was stuck at 1% for almost an hour.

[flybrione]

I tried downloading this last night and it did not move an inch. This is one of the first downloads I had trouble with in a while. The last one I recall was crackdown demo.

Well I am going to wait this one out and download it at a later date. I give it a few days let the hype die down and then give it a go. I have it on preorder so no worry if I don't get to play the demo plus I saw the game in action at wizard world this weekend and it looks great!

[jughead]

I saw the demo was up this morning, started the download and it was finished by the time I got out of the shower. I had five minutes of awesomeness before I had to leave for work. Firewater is cool.

[vinhjdao]

Finally downloaded the demo today. I only played twenty minutes before having to go to work, but it looked fun so far. Can anyone give me a rough idea of how much of the demo is left after you get the objective to find Atlas' family?

[moonknight25]

This game is the real deal!!! The water and fire are fucking incredible! Everyone needs to DL this demo and buy this game....it would be a travesty if it didn't sell well

[ncibob]

I really enjoyed the demo, top notch looking game. If you have a nice Dolby Digital system it really brings out the atmosphere of Bioshock. In a dark room with a big screen tv you actually get a feeling of being underwater. All the bulkheads creaking, water dripping behind you and other great creepy noises really adds to the enjoyment of this title.

[seanr1221]

Yayaayayayaya 2%!

[Apossum]

hadn't played any of the "shock" games, but this demo blew me away.

[Walt Jay]

Finally downloaded the demo today. I only played twenty minutes before having to go to work, but it looked fun so far. Can anyone give me a rough idea of how much of the demo is left after you get the objective to find Atlas' family?

Not too much. From start to finish, the demo took me about 25 minutes to finish. Though, I didn't do as much exploring as I would have liked since I had to go to work.

[SpecTrE3353]

Left the download on all night. Got up this morning and it was only 75%.

[Silencer]

Does anybody have one of those 48-hour trial codes?

My subscription ran out and I don't plan on renewing until this fall when some good multiplayer games come out. Itching to play this demo, though.

[Maynard]

I looked around and played around, took me around 1 hour. I went through it two more times and completed a few tasks different ways, one of my favorite features about the shock games.

[mykevermin]

I don't think you need a Gold account to download demos.

[GenDV138]

Glad I'm not the only one having download problems, had it download over night and when I woke up, it was stuck at 30%. Deleted it and restarted the download this morning, then got stuck at 48%. Here's hoping third time's a charm!

[CrimsonPaw]

Fuck you 2K for releasing a demo BEFORE the game comes out, and fuck you for making need to buy this game .... fuckers!

[Surferflames]

Demo was fun, but I really hope the sound works better for stereo, non-surround setups in the final product. Other games I can still make out where sounds are coming from, but this was pretty hard to distinguish.

Definitely way spookier than I thought the game would be, but looking at the release lists I may need to grab this to hold me off until November since there isn't really alot else coming out (I don't care about the big H).

[Scorch]

The demo is amazing but hey we knew it would be.

Scorch will back me up on that.

I knew from the second I saw the first teaser pic about a year and a half to two years ago and read that they had done SS2 that it'd be great, but even this exceeded my expectations.

I don't think you need a Gold account to download demos.

Some demos you do. They usually make the more popular demos gold only for a week or so.

I hope the final product isn't so.. linear. I like exploring.

[nharmon91]

This shit is hot fire

[BREVITY]

God I didnt go online to much on the weekend so I didnt know about this demo till this morning after I got to work. I cant wait to go home and give it a shot.

[jovherye]

Dl'd the demo last night. Wow! Pretty damn awesome! Did expect it to be good, but not this good. Fucking creepy as hell! I'll be out an extra $60 this month (on top of my Disneyland vacation!)!

[rabbitt]

Excellent demo. Day 1 purchase for me.

[Logg]

Yup this game is aces.

[Silencer]

Some demos you do. They usually make the more popular demos gold only for a week or so.

I hope the final product isn't so.. linear. I like exploring.

So, is this demo gold only?

[Halo05]

Wah! Got to 49% last night before I had to go to bed so I shut down my 360. I get up this morning to resume and now I'm back at 33%. Hopefully it finishes before I get the game.

[Scorch]

So, is this demo gold only?

I don't know

[xeno]

im gona post this link here for you guys to investigate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11364217@N07/1104080479/

[Sofa King Kool]

Holy shit that was a cool demo. I really wanted to be able to shoot that creepy little girl though...

[mrx1]

Let see I started downloading the demo around 6 or 7pm Sunday.It finished downloading 7:30am(pacific time)-background download.I took my network(neighbors cable network)around 12 hours to finish downloading.

[Maklershed]

This shit is hot fire

Like I said in another thread .. it's hotter than Jessica Alba poll dancing on Mercury. I love the ambience of this .. it's very tense and creepy. Plus I absolutely love the style, vintage ads, and art deco.

[Chuplayer]

Wah! Got to 49% last night before I had to go to bed so I shut down my 360. I get up this morning to resume and now I'm back at 33%. Hopefully it finishes before I get the game.

Go into your system options and enable the "allow downloads to resume after system shutdown and then system shuts down after download completion" option. It's a great feature.

I CAN'T GET OUT OF THE ROOM WITH THE VITA-CHAMBER!!! What the hell do I do here? I can't figure it out!

[SoulReaver]

Theres a lot of rooms with Vita-Chambers chuplayer, can you be more specific?

Anyways, tried the demo out and loved it. I will def' be getting this now day 1, though I still don't know if I should get it PC or 360. Leaning towards 360 due to the fact that my comp will prob. only be able to run it on low/med.

[Scorch]

im gona post this link here for you guys to investigate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11364217@N07/1104080479/
well, I see the PC version on sale for 39.99.. but wtf..

where's speedy when we need him :( stupid sony.

[Maklershed]

Go into your system options and enable the "allow downloads to resume after system shutdown and then system shuts down after download completion" option. It's a great feature.

I CAN'T GET OUT OF THE ROOM WITH THE VITA-CHAMBER!!! What the hell do I do here? I can't figure it out!

You mean the room with the first vita chamber? I think if you walk close enough to one door it triggers a splicer to come busting out the other one and you're able to go out the door he comes in.

[m3talst0rm]

So, is this demo gold only?
nope...i'm silver right now and dl'd lastnight no problem

[nyprimus4]

I love how silver members have had it since last night and I've been downloading for 15 hours and I'm at 81%.

[Maynard]

I knew from the second I saw the first teaser pic about a year and a half to two years ago and read that they had done SS2 that it'd be great, but even this exceeded my expectations.


I hope the final product isn't so.. linear. I like exploring.

If the Shock games are any indication of the games structure linear is not what the game will be.

Do you guys remember seeing something about a System Shock 3 game?

[Sofa King Kool]

I love how silver members have had it since last night and I've been downloading for 15 hours and I'm at 81%.
Wah! Got to 49% last night before I had to go to bed so I shut down my 360. I get up this morning to resume and now I'm back at 33%. Hopefully it finishes before I get the game.
Deleted and started again because I was stuck at 1% for almost an hour.
Left the download on all night. Got up this morning and it was only 75%.
Does it usually take long to download demos? I got the whole thing in less than ten minutes :-s

Bad connections?

[slickkill77]

No it was hit and miss. Xbl got destroyed last night. The whole system was getting bogged down

[Xrazor]

Im getting this game but i also want a game callled "The Darkness" that's based of a comic book..

[Chuplayer]

You mean the room with the first vita chamber? I think if you walk close enough to one door it triggers a splicer to come busting out the other one and you're able to go out the door he comes in.

Yeah, the first one. I got out of there by simply backtracking through that small tunnel with the burning desk or whatever it was. I didn't get the enemy that comes when you get close enough to a door, though.

I like the concept of the game, but I'm not liking its execution. I hate how you have to activate the other hand before you can use it. Sometimes it activates and uses at the same time, and other times it doesn't. I just know that I've wasted ammo and energy by pulling the trigger twice when I should've just pulled it once. I also don't like the Doom-style never have enough ammo mechanics. I wanted to play a shooter! I swear, I didn't shoot any more than three dozen times! It was more effective to Gordon them to death, too.

[nharmon91]

I started dl'ing Bioshock and Stranglehold last night shut off my 360 w/ dl in the background thing on. Woke up this morning and the Bioshock Demo AND the Stranglehold demo had dl'ed. love that feature

[Sockey]

I absolutely loved the demo. Day 1 purchase for me. My only complaint is the subtitles- in the demo they weren't synced very well with the audio.

[seanr1221]

God damn, so many people having luck downloading...after almost 4 hours I'm at 19%

[SteveMcQ]

For those that have played it: Have there been any moments that make you feel like you've spoiled a key part in the game? Not so much the "damn, that's amazing" moments, but stuff you imagine would be lessened in the retail version since you've already seen it in the demo.

I'm wondering whether to keep my BioShock content block out going and wait for next week for the game to get in.

[Scorch]

For those that have played it: Have there been any moments that make you feel like you've spoiled a key part in the game? Not so much the "damn, that's amazing" moments, but stuff you imagine would be lessened in the retail version since you've already seen it in the demo.

Not really, no.

[Javery]

I just listened to the 1up yours podcast and they talk about Bioshock in detail (one of the guys played through the entire thing) and they say it's definitely GOTY worthy and may be the best FPS ever on a console (or something along those lines). I really can't wait to try it out.

[pimpinc333]

The Demo was Awesome. I can't wait til next week. This will be one of the best games I've played since SotC.

[slickkill77]

Its worth playing the demo. Seeing the big dady kick someones ass was so sweet

[RollingSkull]

Geez louise guys. Just throw your room keys and/or underwear at the demo and be done with it. You'd still have more dignity. :P

[seanr1221]

So now I think there was a problem with my lower power download last night. When I woke up, the middle power light was consistently on (as opposed to flashing)

Maybe this time it will finish.

[thrustbucket]

Any solid word on it's length? (full version)

[Javery]

Any solid word on it's length? (full version)

According to the guys on 1UP Yours, it's about 12 hours if you rush and don't do anything but the main qwest as fast as you can and about 20 hours if you take your time and enjoy everything.

[seanr1221]

What the fuck happened now?

My xbox turned completely off and I thought "wow, that downloaded fast!"

I turn it on and look at my active downloads, and there's nothing there so I get super excited.

Then I look at my demos section...and...there's nothing there either.

:bomb:

EDIT I just stopped the whole thing. It's not worth killing my system over this. Thanks for dropping the ball on this one MS :roll:

[LinkinPrime]

What the fuck happened now?

My xbox turned completely off and I thought "wow, that downloaded fast!"

I turn it on and look at my active downloads, and there's nothing there so I get super excited.

Then I look at my demos section...and...there's nothing there either.

:bomb:

EDIT I just stopped the whole thing. It's not worth killing my system over this. Thanks for dropping the ball on this one MS :roll:
I had issues downloading on low power as well...have you tried downloading while keeping the X360 on for a while? I know everyone has different experiences but mine downloaded in less than an hour when I left it on, when it was on power save mode it just got stuck at 10%.

BTW: This demo is worth killing your X360, if you can't play this game then why have an X360...yeah its that good!

[seanr1221]

Yea, I left it on for a little over 3 hours and only got to 13%

I'm going to the beach for 3 days tomorrow anyway, so maybe I'll try thursday night.

Thanks for the advice though. I'm sure you can imagine my frustration with such a highly anticipated game.

[JohnnyFoxDarko]

I played the demo and boy was it awesome.
Not really a day 1 buy for me (since I have no money) but a DEFINATE rent.

[magiic]

fuck this game is intense Im loving. I could see this game inducing some pant shitting

[aw004g]

I started the DL at 6:30 PST and it was finished by 6:40. I then spent an hour savoring every moment and detail (fantastic voice acting, graphics, good choice of song "La Mer" by Django Reinhart and Stephen Grapelli, Art Deco architecture, Individualist philosophy, Ayn Rand references (the man behind Rapture is named Andrew Ryan--anagram for Ayn Rand sort of)) All in all, this one hour was the best demo I've played since Ico back in 2001. I'm so happy I preordered the LE.

[RollingSkull]

The game's not at all shabby, having completed the demo. A worthy successor to System Shock 2, and that should count as the highest praise.

Not so sure about the "THIS... IS... ART!" histrionics though.

And, thankfully, they should be able to touch on the depravity on Randianism or whatever without getting KotOR2-style preachy.

[MemphisGun]

well this game isn't all that. to me its way over-hyped. its ok but its going to get old really fast with me. sorry to all you bioshock people.

[richierich]

The environment is really great. Try playing at nighttime, scary sounds haha.

[Cyb3-rr]

well this game isn't all that. to me its way over-hyped. its ok but its going to get old really fast with me. sorry to all you bioshock people.

No reason to be sorry for your opinion. I don't think it's overhyped at all.

[thrustbucket]

The only thing that bothered me about what I saw was glitchy ragdoll physics. Usually hands or feet just dangling forever.

[pimpinc333]

well this game isn't all that. to me its way over-hyped. its ok but its going to get old really fast with me. sorry to all you bioshock people.

Yea sorry to all of us Bioshock fans. I mean without you liking this game it will be less enjoyable to all of us as well :roll:

[JohnnyFoxDarko]

I don't think this game is overhyped at all.
It was a great demo, I just hope the game is better.
Which I'm sure it will be!

[sociopharm02]

This game is going to be sick, I was feeling like it was a wait and buy kind of game , but the demo has me pretty pumped to play the full project.

[Liquid 2]

Im getting this game but i also want a game callled "The Darkness" that's based of a comic book..The Darkness was good. This is better.

Day one, for me.

[MemphisGun]

Yea sorry to all of us Bioshock fans. I mean without you liking this game it will be less enjoyable to all of us as well :roll:



Not at all what i meant man. It was MY opinion. I didn't say that you wouldn't like it. If you took it that way im sorry man.;)

[Halo05]

Wow, just wow. I finished the demo 5 minutes ago and good lord was it mind blowing. I'm reminded of the first time I played Half Life 2 which is/was one of my favorite FPS' of all time.

Everything was clicking for me here. The atmosphere is incredible, the graphics are just about the best I've ever seen, the backstory seems very intriguing. This week cannot possibly go fast enough.

If I have one complaint it's that I spent too much time fighting things. There were times when I wanted to stop and look around more but I really couldn't because either something would be blowing up or crazy people would be coming after me.

The madness that seems to have taken hold of the residents of Rapture is especially disturbing yet understandable.

I have not been this blown away by a demo for as long as I can remember. My slight regrets about shelling out for the LE at Gamestop have evaporated.

[RollingSkull]

I find it only fitting that Andrew Ryan's paradise is nothing more than a (Spoilers for those who haven't played the demo, but even then... these aren't game breaking.) wasteland haven for craven scavengers headed by a paranoid, delusional, egotistical fuck who, three decades after founding Rapture, still believes the CIA and KGB are out to get him.

[Weedy649]

After playing the demo, I'm glad I pre-ordered it. The game is fun, and I doubt it will get old quick....did you not see all the cool stuff you can do in the trailer after you beat the demo?

[Apossum]

The game's not at all shabby, having completed the demo. A worthy successor to System Shock 2, and that should count as the highest praise.

Not so sure about the "THIS... IS... ART!" histrionics though.

And, thankfully, they should be able to touch on the depravity on Randianism or whatever without getting KotOR2-style preachy.


I kinda like the saturated dystopic stuff. The powers you get (I already forget what they are called) are clearly inspired by the Radium craze-- people thought it was a miracle cure for everything, then they all got cancer and went crazy from it. That's one of my favorite "crazy" times in history :) I think I can guess one way the story could go:
if you get too many of those powers, you become a...skinner, is it? I forget the enemies' names too :lol:

[2Fast]

Damn, this is just not downloading for me. I'll try again later tonight.

[CYRiX]

This game looks great but it's deffiently not my type of game, as usual for me I started playing and around 5-10 minutes in I just got to impatient and turned off my x box.

[Damian]

And, thankfully, they should be able to touch on the depravity on Randianism or whatever without getting KotOR2-style preachy.
If you don't even know the name of what you're criticizing, I'm not sure how valid your opinion is. The fact that you chose such a bizarre adjective reinforces that. Of all the valid criticisms of Objectivism there are, you hopped right over them and could only pull out a meaningless emotion-trigger word?

But mostly I enjoy that you fell into the simplistic trap of believing that this game reinforces your own ideology, or really any ideology at all. This quote from Ken Levine (creative director) sums it up:

"I was on the forums; I think it was Slashdot or something that someone pointed me toward. There was one guy saying, "this asshole! This communist asshole! He's taking down objectivism!" There was another saying, "I don't want to play a game that's some sort of Republican screed about free-market bullshit!" I really love the fact that two people can look at the game and take away two totally different opinions on it. The game is not about answering questions and coming up with solutions; it's about asking questions. When you start the game and ride down the bathysphere and you see Ryan's short film asking, "is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" that's a hard question to say no to. And, I dig it. But then there's Rapture, and I like that sort of opaqueness in storytelling, because I don't think there are black and whites."

If you're seeing answers in this story, it's because they're the answers you want to see. There are only questions being posed.

[glockant]

what the fuck man?

shit still won't download.

[ighosty]

its on the top of my gamefly, but according to the recent montly email it is at the top of a lot of peoples lol, and if I don't get it on gamefly soon I will try and go rent it somewhere else.

[SL4IN]

I haven't been able to download the demo, but I can't wait for the game. It's easily my most hyped game of 2007.

[darthbudge]

So how many times have you guys played through the demo? I have played through it 3 times and will play through it a little more I am sure.

[mykevermin]

If you don't even know the name of what you're criticizing, I'm not sure how valid your opinion is. The fact that you chose such a bizarre adjective reinforces that. Of all the valid criticisms of Objectivism there are, you hopped right over them and could only pull out a meaningless emotion-trigger word?

But mostly I enjoy that you fell into the simplistic trap of believing that this game reinforces your own ideology, or really any ideology at all. This quote from Ken Levine (creative director) sums it up:

"I was on the forums; I think it was Slashdot or something that someone pointed me toward. There was one guy saying, "this asshole! This communist asshole! He's taking down objectivism!" There was another saying, "I don't want to play a game that's some sort of Republican screed about free-market bullshit!" I really love the fact that two people can look at the game and take away two totally different opinions on it. The game is not about answering questions and coming up with solutions; it's about asking questions. When you start the game and ride down the bathysphere and you see Ryan's short film asking, "is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" that's a hard question to say no to. And, I dig it. But then there's Rapture, and I like that sort of opaqueness in storytelling, because I don't think there are black and whites."

If you're seeing answers in this story, it's because they're the answers you want to see. There are only questions being posed.

:rofl:

RollingSkull's a commie tramp!

:rofl:

j/k, RS. This cat's got his trousers cinched too tight. Nobody ever said Randians (:rofl:) have senses of humor.

IMO, the entire Ryan soliloquy during the bathysphere ride down is a rail against socialist ideology. What does "is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" refer to, if not objectivism? Socialism redistributes said sweat; religion demands a portion of it. What in the world conclusion *could* you come to other than viewing Rapture as an Objectivist dystopia?

Moreover, the game overtly states that Ryan's ideological enemies are the CIA, KGB, and religion. It's pretty clear what the gamemakers are referring to. Ryan did not model Rapture after Marx and Engels' philosophies.

Ryan is evidently part Orson Welles, and part Howard Hughes. Me likey.

[A Happy Panda]

Can't remember if I downloaded the demo last night or not...I kinda just deleted my 360 without thinking about it before going to bed.

Anyways, for those who have played the demo....just how scary is it? I turn into a little girl with scary games. RE and FEAR? Man, get that shiz away from me. I can play when people watch me play, and I love watching people play those games, but playing by myself? Game over.

[slickkill77]

Definitly a fun game. An enhanced version of condemned....Which is a good thing

[Liquid 2]

Is this what's included with the limited edition? This image was open in my browser and I have no idea how it got there :lol:.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/fanartgallery/rt6.jpg

If it is, the LE will be mine.

[mykevermin]

:shock:

woah.

[Ugamer_X]

Has 2k ever given justification for why the 360 version has a $10 premium over the PC version?

[mr ryles]

guess it is a gamestop exclusive. Only $10 more. I'm all over this.

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200317

[Damian]

j/k, RS. This cat's got his trousers cinched too tight. Nobody ever said Randians (:rofl:) have senses of humor.
Why would you assume I'm a "Randian"? Why is that people automatically assume that there are only two clearly cut sides two every issues in life? You're either with me or against me.

[Damian]

Is this what's included with the limited edition?
If it is, the LE will be mine.
That's the Gamestop Limited Edition. I don't know if there's any others but I don't believe so.

[Damian]

Has 2k ever given justification for why the 360 version has a $10 premium over the PC version?
Because $60 is what non-budget 360 games cost. That's what MS decided, so publishers have very little choice in the matter.

[Halo05]

Hehe, there was humor there.

Anyhow, the $10 Premium is for... achievements?

[ighosty]

dam...I want that action figure now :D

[pimpinc333]

Is this what's included with the limited edition? This image was open in my browser and I have no idea how it got there :lol:.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/fanartgallery/rt6.jpg

If it is, the LE will be mine.
This is what someone drew up and was hoping would be in the LE. This is an old pic and some of this will not be in the LE ( Cloth Map ) and such.

[LinkinPrime]

Is this what's included with the limited edition? This image was open in my browser and I have no idea how it got there :lol:.

If it is, the LE will be mine.
That was a fan made mock up. Here's the official CE Details GS/EB Exclusive!
http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/200317b.jpg http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2381/bioleboxyj5pa9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2381/bioleboxyj5pa9.jpg)
Bioshock the game
Bioshock "Big Daddy" Figurine
Soundtrack CD featuring music of BioShock plus remixes of period music
Behind the scenes DVDhttp://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200317

[mykevermin]

That was a fan made mock up.

No steel case or stickers?

NO STICKERS!!!

HELL TO PAY!!!

HELL TO PAY!!!

Crap. That was a neat lookin' set.

Why would you assume I'm a "Randian"?

Because you're overly (and unnecessarily) defensive, and because you have no sense of humor. Like every *ahem* "Objectivist" (happy now?) I've ever met.

[almasy82]

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/images/bonus/200317_bonus.jpg <---from the gamestop.com lising the "fan mock up" is on the gamestop page...so I don't know. It would be odd for them to use the fan mock up

[Damian]

Because you're overly (and unnecessarily) defensive, and because you have no sense of humor. Like every *ahem* "Objectivist" (happy now?) I've ever met.
Huh. I'm not an Objectivist.

You didn't address anything else I brought up either, but that's okay. You've fit me into your world view where you think I belong and it would be nearly impossible to alter that at this point. We can move on now.

[thrustbucket]

Has 2k ever given justification for why the 360 version has a $10 premium over the PC version?

It's likely not 2k's doing. It's because Microsoft, being a silly corporation that has lost over a billion on Xbox so far, has this weird notion about making money on their software and enforcing prices. Those silly kooks....

[A Happy Panda]

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/images/bonus/200317_bonus.jpg <---from the gamestop.com lising the "fan mock up" is on the gamestop page...so I don't know. It would be odd for them to use the fan mock up

Considering the competency level (which is low...very low) of ALL GS employees...yes ALL, I'm not surprised.

[zewone]

im gona post this link here for you guys to investigate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11364217@N07/1104080479/
Bad shop.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/Dre297/bioshock.jpg?t=1187047760

[lordwow]

Glad I preordered the CE. The soundtrack is amazing, and playing the demo, the whole game just seems "cool"

[Sofa King Kool]

Anyways, for those who have played the demo....just how scary is it? I turn into a little girl with scary games.

I'm the same way ;)

Surprisingly, I didn't find it all that scary. The splicers really arn't that bad, they're just really insane. However, the atmoshpere was....spooky.

[pimpinc333]

What a bunch of Scared ass bitches up in this thread ;)

Seriously though my nephew is the same way as you guys. He stopped playing when the door to the sub opened. He's 9 though so it's understandable :D

[coltcannon]

Bioshock the game
Bioshock "Big Daddy" Figurine
Soundtrack CD featuring music of BioShock plus remixes of period music
Behind the scenes DVDAlso the case is embossed metal, something like a steelbook.

[Javery]

I just got my 360 back. I started the DL at 7:43. It's 7:52 and I'm ready to play! FIOS FTW!!!

[A Happy Panda]

What a bunch of Scared ass bitches up in this thread ;)

Seriously though my nephew is the same way as you guys. He stopped playing when the door to the sub opened. He's 9 though so it's understandable :D

Ever since I tried playing RE2 by myself when I was like 10...man. Not only was I scared shitless at that age, I also didn't have a memory card yet because my brother and I JUST got the PSX. So I had a complete fear of death because I couldn't save!

Seriously it's because of that game that I have a more-than-normal fear of zombies. Like no really. That game fucked with me lol. I can't touch any of the RE games. Other zombie games I can handle, but survival horror games with zombies are definitely not happening for me.

Whenever I walk around my house at night and the blinds or door drapes aren't closed, I just imagine a zombie running up and banging up on the glass. I'm weird I know.

[Sofa King Kool]

What a bunch of scared ass bitches up in this thread ;)
Yeah that's definitely me ;)

I just started Silent Hill 2, and I don't know if I'm even going to be able to finish it.


Whenever I walk around my house at night and the blinds or door drapes aren't closed, I just imagine a zombie running up and banging up on the glass.
GAAH! I do that too! I always have to shut all the shades :shock:

[Liquid 2]

That was a fan made mock up. Here's the official CE Details GS/EB Exclusive!
http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/200317b.jpg http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2381/bioleboxyj5pa9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2381/bioleboxyj5pa9.jpg)
Bioshock the game
Bioshock "Big Daddy" Figurine
Soundtrack CD featuring music of BioShock plus remixes of period music
Behind the scenes DVDhttp://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200317Gotcha. Thanks Linkkin and everyone else who answered.

[Sporadic]

They put the artbook that was going to go in the limited edition online.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html

[brad_schl]

Anyone else getting fucked up download speeds?

It took 3 hrs to get the first 20%... 2 hrs later I had 23%... 1 hr later I had 14%. Fearing a corrupted download I deleted it and started again. 4 hrs after THAT I've got 2%.

Hopefully it'll be done when I get off work tomorrow. Heck, that's only 19 hours away.

[DarkNessBear]

I feel alone in the, "Not really feeling this game" group.

I thought the demo was alright. I was never to fond of this game and the demo was actually a little worse then I expected. I was actually looking forward to the demo ending... *sorry*

The game to me, is hard to describe... it reminds me of the old resident evil games where they would have prerendered backgrounds and sort of out of place/ugly enemies/everything that was usable.

The enemies moved awkwardly and felt out of place... and the combat was really boring. And I hate shooting at things with a health bar. And nothing felt like it had wait to it.

The graphics and atmosphere (When there were no enemies around) were awesome. When ever there are enemies around though, it turns unappealing to me. . . I would prefer this game to just be a walk through this underwater city solving puzzles and crap.

The start of the game up till the point where you meet the first enemy was awesome. Kind of lost interest after that. I basically enjoyed the non fighting portions is what I am saying.

[Brak]

I feel alone in the, "Not really feeling this game" group.

I thought the demo was alright. I was never to fond of this game and the demo was actually a little worse then I expected. I was actually looking forward to the demo ending... *sorry*

The game to me, is hard to describe... it reminds me of the old resident evil games where they would have prerendered backgrounds and sort of out of place/ugly enemies/everything that was usable.

The enemies moved awkwardly and felt out of place... and the combat was really boring. And I hate shooting at things with a health bar. And nothing felt like it had wait to it.

The graphics and atmosphere (When there were no enemies around) were awesome. When ever there are enemies around though, it turns unappealing to me. . . I would prefer this game to just be a walk through this underwater city solving puzzles and crap.

The start of the game up till the point where you meet the first enemy was awesome. Kind of lost interest after that. I basically enjoyed the non fighting portions is what I am saying.
Like all of your other opinions, I'm having a hard time taking this one seriously, as you constantly, and consistently, try to set yourself aside from the masses.

'I feel alone in the, "Not really feeling this game" group.'

If you posted, saying that the sky was blue, I'd begin to doubt that, too.

[Apossum]

well, I think I've covered every last inch...haven't found lots of cool easter eggs other then the fact that you can get drunk if you drink 2 or more bottles of alcohol in a row.

There's only one part I haven't been able to check because the action moves so fast-- it's right at the end, past the first security camera, you see 2 splicers checking out a big daddy corpse. next time I play, I want to see if you can search it...

[JohnnyFoxDarko]

well, I think I've covered every last inch...haven't found lots of cool easter eggs other then the fact that you can get drunk if you drink 2 or more bottles of alcohol in a row.

There's only one part I haven't been able to check because the action moves so fast-- it's right at the end, past the first security camera, you see 2 splicers checking out a big daddy corpse. next time I play, I want to see if you can search it...

You can and you get like 56 dollars and something else.

[RollingSkull]

If you don't even know the name of what you're criticizing, I'm not sure how valid your opinion is. The fact that you chose such a bizarre adjective reinforces that. Of all the valid criticisms of Objectivism there are, you hopped right over them and could only pull out a meaningless emotion-trigger word?

But mostly I enjoy that you fell into the simplistic trap of believing that this game reinforces your own ideology, or really any ideology at all. This quote from Ken Levine (creative director) sums it up:

"I was on the forums; I think it was Slashdot or something that someone pointed me toward. There was one guy saying, "this asshole! This communist asshole! He's taking down objectivism!" There was another saying, "I don't want to play a game that's some sort of Republican screed about free-market bullshit!" I really love the fact that two people can look at the game and take away two totally different opinions on it. The game is not about answering questions and coming up with solutions; it's about asking questions. When you start the game and ride down the bathysphere and you see Ryan's short film asking, "is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" that's a hard question to say no to. And, I dig it. But then there's Rapture, and I like that sort of opaqueness in storytelling, because I don't think there are black and whites."

If you're seeing answers in this story, it's because they're the answers you want to see. There are only questions being posed.
Uh, dude? I don't look for answers OR questions in video games (If you take life lessons from video games, you have more problems than I do.). Please, come off the intellectual masturbation about how you are the lone enlightened who doesn't see things in black or white. You clearly take this WAY more seriously than I do.

EDIT: Frankly, I kinda wish the Bioshock creators would get over themselves as well. Video games are, if history is any indication, a uniformly crappy medium for philosophical treatises. If they really succeeded at it, they don't need to keep buttering us up with so much prose that reeks more of self-reassurance than actual boasting. The product will speak for itself. If all you're doing is "asking questions," you're already taking a wishy-washy stance, so I'm not particularly interested in what you have to say beyond letting me judge precisely how well you asked said questions.

And, "Is man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?" doesn't lead directly to gibbering zombies and lots of explosions. So the narrative arc we have is nothing but fragments, so I don't see how anyone can judge greatness or vapidity at this point.

However, given the evidence stated above, I'm leaning towards vapidity. I imagine the game will be a blast, but vapid.

[Sofa King Kool]

You can and you get like 56 dollars and something else.

Yeah you get a munch of money, and I think maybe some arm injecty stuff. I can't remember what it's called, if that's even what he had.

[Sojeph]

I downloaded this game wee hours earlier this morning and download was fast. After playing this demo I was sold I went to eb and got the LE of the game. Like the atmosphere, interaction, and controls. Cant wait for it to come out now.

[Apossum]

Uh, dude? I don't look for answers OR questions in video games (If you take life lessons from video games, you have more problems than I do.). Please, come off the intellectual masturbation about how you are the lone enlightened who doesn't see things in black or white. You clearly take this WAY more seriously than I do.

EDIT: Frankly, I kinda wish the Bioshock creators would get over themselves as well. Video games are, if history is any indication, a uniformly crappy medium for philosophical treatises. If they really succeeded at it, they don't need to keep buttering us up with so much prose that reeks more of self-reassurance than actual boasting. The product will speak for itself. If all you're doing is "asking questions," you're already taking a wishy-washy stance, so I'm not particularly interested in what you have to say beyond letting me judge precisely how well you asked said questions.

And, "Is man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?" doesn't lead directly to gibbering zombies and lots of explosions. So the narrative arc we have is nothing but fragments, so I don't see how anyone can judge greatness or vapidity at this point.

However, given the evidence stated above, I'm leaning towards vapidity. I imagine the game will be a blast, but vapid.



imo, this demo is thicker with story, life, and intrigue than every game I've played this year combined, so I'm leaning towards it being compelling story-wise. that's not saying much, but it's worth noting.

I don't expect greatness, I just expect to be basely motivated to see what happens next. games and stories are two separate entities that may or may not ever blend, but the atmosphere in Bioshock is enough to make me think about what I'm seeing in the game, which is more than I can say for most games. still, that barely scratches the surface of what 1 minute of a good movie can do, story-wise. The demo sets up the skeletal structure of the story and as usual, it probably won't get much deeper than that. We're lucky to even see the basic conflicts illustrated in real time, rather than explained in some off-the-cuff prologue written by the programmer's cousin...still, I'm genuinely interested in hearing the story, even if it would sound like the most retarded thing ever if I explained it to a non gamer. ("A dystopia with a post-WW2 theme...but 18 fathoms under the sea! big Daddys! Little Sisters! Splicers! Super powers injected in to your arm!")


but in any case, this game will fucking rule and that's all that matters :)

[lordwow]

Though I think the graphics have been there, in Gears and Vegas, I think this is the first game that has really given me the feeling "The next generation of gaming is here." That's gotta say something.

[triforcer]

my downloads went by pretty fast i think. downloaded stranglehold and queued bioshock in the afternoon, went on my pc for a few hours and went back it was done.

i really never planned on buying bioshock at least not for full price. i have been keeping up here and there with trailers and whatnot, but playing the demo got me really excited for this game. i think the polish put into this game shows and although i still don't think i'm buying it day one, if that ad pic turns out to be true i will pick it up for 40.

[dastly75]

Everything about this game feels better than anything before it in the adventure FPS genre. The controls are tight, graphics superb, atmosphere perfect, and a intriguing story.

[ZerotypeX]

Just played it a few mins ago and wow....I got scared, lol. Really great atmosphere and the water just looked amazing in the begining when you start the demo. Demo reminded me alot of Condemned. I might play that first.

[richierich]

Just played it a few mins ago and wow....I got scared, lol. Really great atmosphere and the water just looked amazing in the begining when you start the demo. Demo reminded me alot of Condemned. I might play that first.

The water part in the beginning fooled me, I thought I was watching more cutscenes, lol. I just was waiting there and then I saw the analog stick icon pop up to tell me to move. The graphics are really good.

[Hitze]

The demo was awesome. Definitely a day 1 purchase for me. Everything about it was just perfect. In that one hallway with all the water, I pretty much just stared at the water for a few minutes. It looks stunning.

I never really got scared -- maybe I'm just weird. Games such as this, Doom 3, and Resident Evil haven't scared me -- but Like Likes from the N64 Zeldas scared the crap out of me(and I still have no idea why).

[RollingSkull]

Well of course there's a drawing story. These people are claiming heirdom to System Shock 2!

I'm not yet pulled in by it though, but I imagine we'll have a good plot.

Speculation that could be big spoilers based off of info in the demo and only in the demo and a BIT taken tangentially from System Shock 2: Given that Ryan, with a half dozen monitors at his disposal in the final room of the demo, chooses instead to appear as a still image with an old-fashioned projector, he either has an unmatched flair for the dramatic, or Ryan is not who, or even what, he seems to be. CLEARLY HE IS SHODAN REBORN.

Speaking of SHODAN, is anyone REALLY falling for Atlas's claims that his 'family' is trapped in the Neptune area? Seriously. Who the heck is he trying to kid?

[Darkside Hazuki]

This reminds me of Blood (http://blood.lith.com/). And that's a very good thing.

[KaneRobot]

Not bad, glad I got to play a demo because the hype and previews I saw did nothing for me. Nice atmosphere, but I'm still not convinced that the hype about how this game "redefines the FPS" is anywhere near accurate.

I'll hold off on a purchase since I won't touch it once Halo comes out, but I'll get it down the road after a price drop.

[pimpinc333]

This reminds me of Blood (http://blood.lith.com/). And that's a very good thing.

Hmmm Never heard of Blood before but it looks very similar to Doom and Castle Wolf.

[CAG 79]

BioShock: Breaking the Mold free artbook available for download.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html

[Weedy649]

I didnt find the demo scary, but then again I beat FEAR and played some Condemned and was ok with those(not to mention RE).

I think people are scared to play the game because they dont want to be scared. Once you actually play it then I think you realize it is much more thrilling/exciting because it keeps you on your toes while playing.

I think thats one of the reasons i missed out on the Silent Hill series when i was younger, but im glad that changed since i would be missing out on big quality titles now.

[jughead]

The enemies moved awkwardly and felt out of place...

I have to agree just a bit with this. The characters do seem like giant cubes rolling around. But... I don't care. It looks so good on my TV.

[Kendal]

This reminds me of Blood (http://blood.lith.com/). And that's a very good thing.

I haven't thought about that game in years. It was pretty effed up for it's day. I am DLing this demo now, I shall be Bioshocking tomorrow after class.

[slickkill77]

I loved the music....If someone thats getting the LE wants to be really cool, Id pay $5 or something or that nature, so that I could download the music off of the cd then lmk

[RudyPants]

Crap ... I just downloaded this but haven't played it yet. Heard from Ken Levine on Major Nelson that it's like a director's cut - if I played the demo would it spoil the game? I'm trying to limit my intake of the game before I can experience it in its entirety.

Can anybody speak to this?

[zewone]

I don't get how playing a demo can be a spoiler?

Isn't a spoiler when you read/hear something without actually experiencing it yourself?

[AshesofWake]

This reminds me of Blood (http://blood.lith.com/). And that's a very good thing.


oh fuck, Blood...it's been so long....omg...

[Rei no Otaku]

Demo doesn't spoil anything. Basically if you know anything about the game, you already know everything you learn in the demo.

[RollingSkull]

I loved the music....If someone thats getting the LE wants to be really cool, Id pay $5 or something or that nature, so that I could download the music off of the cd then lmk

The CD will be up on Galbadia Hotel or GamingForce within a month of release, easily, and that's generous.

[slickkill77]

Not neccessarily...

[mykevermin]

The CD will be up on Galbadia Hotel or GamingForce within a month of release, easily, and that's generous.

I'm desperate for some webstream of period music appropriate for this game, to keep me in the mood for the next several weeks. Any ideas?

[lordwow]

I'm desperate for some webstream of period music appropriate for this game, to keep me in the mood for the next several weeks. Any ideas?

The music is mostly late 50s stuff, appropriate with the timeframe of the game. It's some oldies music, but some is really older than oldies stations play right now, so I don't know. It's kind of inbetween being oldies (60s/70s) and like "big band" type stuff.

[Maynard]

For the people that are playing this and you've never played a 'Shock' game, the way it's meant to be played is at night, dark, loud. The 'Shock' stories are always awesome and Irrational knows how to create atmosphere.

[Scorch]

I'm desperate for some webstream of period music appropriate for this game, to keep me in the mood for the next several weeks. Any ideas?

ITunes radio?

[moojuice]

Seeing the wrench in my hand made me go all the way back to Condemed; I kept hitting the L trigger to block the Splicer attacks. Which obviously didn't end well. Also, is it even possible to "die" in this game? Since you always get re-incarnated, is it pretty much going to be like Prey?

[Logain8955]

BioShock: Breaking the Mold free artbook available for download.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html


The artbook is amazing. I might have to go down and get one printed and bound.

[RudyPants]

Wow. Coudln't hold off on the demo even though I promised myself to wait until next week. Can't say anything that hasn't already been said ... atmosphere is best I've ever seen in a game.

[triforcer]

The artbook is amazing. I might have to go down and get one printed and bound.learn book binding yourself, it's easier than you think.

[Sporadic]

BioShock: Breaking the Mold free artbook available for download.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html

one page behind you

that will teach me not to [b]

[Zoglog]

My question is if there are any more enemies besides Big Daddies, Splicers, and gun sentries... because that's all I've seen in videos and this demo.

[zewone]

My question is if there are any more enemies besides Big Daddies, Splicers, and gun sentries... because that's all I've seen in videos and this demo.
There are the doctors that teleport from the hunting a big daddy video.

[RollingSkull]

I'm desperate for some webstream of period music appropriate for this game, to keep me in the mood for the next several weeks. Any ideas?

I'd help if I could, but I'm all about video game music and nothing else. As a result, I got nothing. Sorry.

[Zoglog]

There are the doctors that teleport from the hunting a big daddy video.

Those are still splicers, they're just using the teleport plasmid.

[triforcer]

i was looking through the free art book and there are definitely different enemies in there.

[tayaf69]

I'm.....still trying to download...:cry:

[mykevermin]

The music is mostly late 50s stuff, appropriate with the timeframe of the game. It's some oldies music, but some is really older than oldies stations play right now, so I don't know. It's kind of inbetween being oldies (60s/70s) and like "big band" type stuff.

You're about 3-4 decades too late for the music; I'd say it *is* Big Band. It's hard to find webstreams of low-fi Big Band/swing music (from the 20's-30's). Plenty of jazz (which was considered the Big Band equivalent of "punk rock" when the Big Bands were in full swing) on iTunes radio and the like.

My grandparents used to listen to this when I was younger, and even then (early to mid 80's) it was only found WAYYY up on the AM dial, near the church shows and tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists.

The music in this game, like the art style, is closer to the 20's-30's than it is the time frame (60's) it takes place in.

EDIT: On second thought, a lot of early jazz works, too, so you're right about that. There's some old Bessie Smith and Billy Holiday tracks that would be positively haunting in this game.

[seanr1221]

Ok, so I thought I'd give it one more go before I leave for the beach today. It's up to 5% after 15 minutes, so I may have finally gotten lucky.

[Sofa King Kool]

I kept hitting the L trigger to block the Splicer attacks.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who did that ;)

[benjamouth]

Got the demo last night, game is fantastic, glad I jumped on the Liongames deal now.

That is all.

[velvet396]

"accidentally" played through the demo. meaning I never expected much of the game, cause it's not really my bag, but started up the demo planning to play 5 minutes to see the graphics. Imagine my surprise when I looked at the clock 40 minutes later... whoops! Pleasantly surprised. Now definitely planning on playing this one through...

[jaso]

Yeah, this demo really sold me. They just nailed everything: atmosphere, music, gameplay, story, etc. I really wasn't expecting to like this game from watching just brief snippets on IGN, but like Velvet said, it sucked 30 minutes away from me without even thinking - and I didn't even finish the demo.

It was far and away a better experience than the Stranglehold demo, which felt WAY too much like Max Payne with bullet sound effects that sound like cap guns going off. Bioshock might be a nice diversion for me until Sept. 25.

[CrimsonPaw]

I have to say that this demo was simply amazing; I'm torn on buying this though because I have Warhawk coming a week later. DAMN YOU 2K!!!!!!

I don't think I've played a game with this much atmosphere since Half-Life 2.

[Puffa469]

Atmosphere and graphics are incredible. The music is great too. It really brings me into the game environment. Im not sold on the gameplay yet, but Ive got my preorder in and I cant wait till next week.

[deadite76]

I was finally able to DL this last night in under two hours and on my fifth try!! Anyway, I haven't seen this posted yet, but if you're interested in giving Hard Mode a try in the demo here ya go:

So, you've downloaded the BioShock demo. You've plumbed its glorious depths, defeated its grisly baddies, and you thought to yourself, "Self," you thought, "that was easy." Well fear not, avid BioShock fans, for we have one more way to stay your undying hunger for underwater dystopia. The fine fellows at DCEmu have uncovered how to play the BioShock demo in hard mode. When you start the BioShock demo, you'll notice that the hard mode option is there, but cannot be selected. The workaround for this is actually very simple. Before you start up the demo, open up your gamer profile and edit the default game settings. Under "general," simply set your default difficulty to hard. Now start up the BioShock demo and, voilà, hard difficulty will be highlighted. Just don't move it or you won't be able to reselect it without restarting the demo.

Enjoy.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/08/14/how-to-unlock-hard-mode-in-bioshock-demo/

[sendme]

I have the game on pre order from game stop for the pc. I downloaded the 360 demo last night and I really don't know what to think. I thought the game was great but the demo was lacking. I know its a demo and shouldn't give you much play but still. I want to play the game even more now but I'm wondering if it will be as good as I was hoping it will be. I'm also wondering if my PC will even run it.

[edison]

Here are the PC system specs, pulled from 2K forums.

BIOSHOCK PC SPECIFICATIONS

Operating Systems:
Windows XP (with Service Pack 2) or
Windows Vista


Minimum System Requirements:
CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz Single Core processor

System RAM: 1GB

Video Card: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 128MB RAM (NVIDIA 6600 or better/ATI X1300 or better, excluding ATI X1550).

Sound Card: 100% direct X 9.0c compatible sound card

Hard disc space: 8GB free space


Recommended System Requirements:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo processor

System RAM: 2GB

Video card:
DX9: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT or better)
DX10: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 or better

Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards)

Important Note: Game requires Internet connection for activation

[Halo05]

My mind boggles that people felt the demo was lacking. I'm not attacking anyone but what more do you want out of a free demo?!

The controls were spot on, you got a taste of creative slaying and it lasted, initially for me at least, over half an hour. To top things off, after finishing it there's an incredible video preview of parts of the rest of the game. Sure it leaves you wanting more, that's the point of a demo. Now in a week we can all go pay 60-70 bucks for "more".

[Tyvan]

I must be in the minority here, but the demo was average at best for me.

[pimpinc333]

My mind boggles that people felt the demo was lacking. I'm not attacking anyone but what more do you want out of a free demo?!

The controls were spot on, you got a taste of creative slaying and it lasted, initially for me at least, over half an hour. To top things off, after finishing it there's an incredible video preview of parts of the rest of the game. Sure it leaves you wanting more, that's the point of a demo. Now in a week we can all go pay 60-70 bucks for "more".

Agreed. My first play through the demo I took my time and looked around for hidden anythings. I think I played for about 45 mins before beating it. Solid stuff all the way around.

[Maklershed]

I loved it. I enjoyed just looking through all the rooms and checking out the posters and artwork and decoration. I'm super pumped for next Tuesday.

[Morpheus]

I was going to wait until Bioshock hit the $29.99 point, but since playing the demo it's now a day one purchase.

[slickkill77]

Did anyone else find the dead cat in the first room with the vita chamber. Its behind the chamber on the left. I just thought it was funny

[ryanbph]

I must be in the minority here, but the demo was average at best for me.

I didn't find the shooting controls to be the best, but everything else was top notch IMO. Looking forward to the release of the game, and I am happy with the preorder I have placed.

[CrimsonPaw]

... after finishing it there's an incredible video preview of parts of the rest of the game.
I forgot about that, but now that I think about it that was pretty freaking awesome, just seeing the different situations and how you could play them out. It was awesome seeing the ways to use that lightning tripwire to take people out.

[Silencer]

In regards to the graphics, did anyone else get a cartoony vibe from it (a la TimeSplitters)? I dig it.

Demo as a whole wasn't all that impressive. Great ambience/atmosphere sure, but nothing I haven't already experienced in past "FPS Horror" games.

[eswat]

To me this seems a lot like Halo, in that it's a great FPS/RPG hybrid primer for consoles, but not anywhere the best of the breed if you consider other PC games.

Still had a blast, but I guess with SHOCK in the title I expect a bit more depth character development wise.

[Sofa King Kool]

Did anyone else find the dead cat in the first room with the vita chamber. Its behind the chamber on the left. I just thought it was funny

Yes. I hit it with the wrench a lot.

[Puffa469]

Still had a blast, but I guess with SHOCK in the title I expect a bit more depth character development wise.

Its a 20 minute demo. How much character development do you expect?

[eswat]

Its a 20 minute demo. How much character development do you expect?
The same amount that was in the first 20 minutes of System Shock 2? :cold:

[lordwow]

The same amount that was in the first 20 minutes of System Shock 2? :cold:
It is just a demo, it may not reflect the final product's first 20 minutes.

[doubledown]

Some people are reporting that TRU is selling this early (some getting it with the Madden deal).

Very tempting if my store has it....although, I have credit to burn at GameRush also.

[zewone]

To me this seems a lot like Halo, in that it's a great FPS/RPG hybrid primer for consoles, but not anywhere the best of the breed if you consider other PC games.

Still had a blast, but I guess with SHOCK in the title I expect a bit more depth character development wise.
How is Halo like an RPG at all?

PC games can suck it. Damn elitist.

[Halo05]

The Roanoke, VA TRU does not have Bioshock yet. Or they do but the guy on the phone knew it wasn't "supposed" to be out yet. It's probably for the best, I have it nearly paid off at GS.

Stupid waiting...

[eswat]

How is Halo like an RPG at all?

PC games can suck it. Damn elitist.
Didn't mean to refer to Halo as an RPG. It's a good FPS for consoles, but for me it just doesn't seem that much more fun than the rest of the FPS I've played.

and damn right I'm an elitist :P

[thegamer4787]

I got around to playing the demo today and I thought that it was excellent overall. The atmosphere and setting are expertly done, and the plasmids featured in the demo were fun to use. The hand-to-hand combat early on reminded me of Condemned.

[triforcer]

Here are the PC system specs, pulled from 2K forums.

BIOSHOCK PC SPECIFICATIONS

Operating Systems:
Windows XP (with Service Pack 2) or
Windows Vista


Minimum System Requirements:
CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz Single Core processor

System RAM: 1GB

Video Card: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 128MB RAM (NVIDIA 6600 or better/ATI X1300 or better, excluding ATI X1550).

Sound Card: 100% direct X 9.0c compatible sound card

Hard disc space: 8GB free space


Recommended System Requirements:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo processor

System RAM: 2GB

Video card:
DX9: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT or better)
DX10: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 or better

Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards)

Important Note: Game requires Internet connection for activationi'm somewhere in the middle of that... better just go with the 360 version. the controls were pretty tight and well done.

[SpecTrE3353]

The whole 50's atmosphere reminded me a lot of Fallout.

[hollowfreak]

I got around to playing the demo today and I thought that it was excellent overall. The atmosphere and setting are expertly done, and the plasmids featured in the demo were fun to use. The hand-to-hand combat early on reminded me of Condemned.

Wait ... what hand-to-hand? You must have meant the melee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M%C3%AAl%C3%A9e_weapons). Overall I was a little disappointed by the demo, I've only played it through once so far and I'll give it another try but some things are bothering me about it. The reflections are bugging the hell out of me, the water looks great at first then I notice the moon isn't reflected on the water and there's white highlights everywhere. Then I get inside and I notice there's reflections on the walls of lights that don't even exist in the game. So I try to look past all this only to find my character acts like 5 yr old with adhd ... ooohh shiny plasmid must stick in arm ... arggghhh. I mean seriously the guy just narrowly escapes death in a plane crash that's right next to a lighthouse that transports him down to the depths of dna hell only to immediately act like a plasmid junkie. I really hope it's just the demo's fault that this story/game seems a lil rushed.

edit: ok I played it a second time and the moon is reflected in the water but not if you're standing on the stairs, go around to the back of the "lighthouse" and slowly walk to the water and it'll pop up when you're at the bottom of the stairs.

[CrimsonPaw]

Wait ... what hand-to-hand? You must have meant the melee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M%C3%AAl%C3%A9e_weapons). Overall I was a little disappointed by the demo, I've only played it through once so far and I'll give it another try but some things are bothering me about it. The reflections are bugging the hell out of me, the water looks great at first then I notice the moon isn't reflected on the water and there's white highlights everywhere. Then I get inside and I notice there's reflections on the walls of lights that don't even exist in the game. So I try to look past all this only to find my character acts like 5 yr old with adhd ... ooohh shiny plasmid must stick in arm ... arggghhh. I mean seriously the guy just narrowly escapes death in a plane crash that's right next to a lighthouse that transports him down to the depths of dna hell only to immediately act like a plasmid junkie. I really hope it's just the demo's fault that this story/game seems a lil rushed.
I can see where you would question this game and think it was rushed. The atmosphere had alot of detail and the gameplay was pretty solid, but just knowing that there was no reflection of the moon makes me want to remove the demo from my 360. Also considering the game comes out in 2 weeks I'm sure they'll be fixing the story/game flaws before it goes to production :roll: .

[CaseyRyback]

I don't know about you, but if I just saw an ad where a guy used this shit and had special powers, I know I would be running to get some of that shit ASAP. Especially after the first thing I saw when I got out of the bathysphere was two guys getting killed.

[terribledeli]

ooohh shiny plasmid must stick in arm ... arggghhh. I mean seriously the guy just narrowly escapes death in a plane crash that's right next to a lighthouse that transports him down to the depths of dna hell only to immediately act like a plasmid junkie. I really hope it's just the demo's fault that this story/game seems a lil rushed.

You're so right. Its not like the guy would totally do anything to help kill, from what he can gather, is some genetic freak.


The character weighted his options: Try and kill these mutated freaks with a wrench. Given what he's seen so far, is a little difficult. Or even the odds in his favor with some extra firepower (pun intended).

[sj41]

Demo was spectacular. If I'm going to buy any game, besides Halo 3, for the rest of the year, this will be the game. I'm just not sure if I need another game besides Halo 3 for the rest of the year. Lots of great games coming out, but I'm tired of being poor.

[A Happy Panda]

Demo was spectacular. If I'm going to buy any game, besides Halo 3, for the rest of the year, this will be the game. I'm just not sure if I need another game besides Halo 3 for the rest of the year. Lots of great games coming out, but I'm tired of being poor.

See that's my problem. I only ever owned 2 games for Xbox 1 and they were H1 and H2 (though I did have Fusion Frenzy...but that was a gift)

I'm planning on picking up Eternal Sonata, maybe Mass Effect, maybe Stranglehold, maybe COD4, maybe Army of Two. My head hurts.

[Halo05]

Wait ... what hand-to-hand? You must have meant the melee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M%C3%AAl%C3%A9e_weapons). Overall I was a little disappointed by the demo, I've only played it through once so far and I'll give it another try but some things are bothering me about it. The reflections are bugging the hell out of me, the water looks great at first then I notice the moon isn't reflected on the water and there's white highlights everywhere. Then I get inside and I notice there's reflections on the walls of lights that don't even exist in the game. So I try to look past all this only to find my character acts like 5 yr old with adhd ... ooohh shiny plasmid must stick in arm ... arggghhh. I mean seriously the guy just narrowly escapes death in a plane crash that's right next to a lighthouse that transports him down to the depths of dna hell only to immediately act like a plasmid junkie. I really hope it's just the demo's fault that this story/game seems a lil rushed.

First, why in the hell would you worry about seeing where the reflections are coming from? You're just looking for reasons to not like this game, which is fine if that's what makes you happy. I just hope you don't do it with every game or you'll never be satisfied.

As far as the whole, crazy, "ooh, drugs!" bit, until we see how that part plays out in the complete game, I'm reserving judgement. Yes, it seems hasty in the demo. At the same time, it's been said many times before that the demo is not necessarily exactly the same as the initial parts of the game. It's intended to be a teaser, not to plumb the depths of what the main character is going through emotionally and physically.

[slickkill77]

AS posted earlier some tru's are selling early. Tyron Blvd tru in St Pete is not

[Brian9824]

First, why in the hell would you worry about seeing where the reflections are coming from? You're just looking for reasons to not like this game, which is fine if that's what makes you happy. I just hope you don't do it with every game or you'll never be satisfied.

As far as the whole, crazy, "ooh, drugs!" bit, until we see how that part plays out in the complete game, I'm reserving judgement. Yes, it seems hasty in the demo. At the same time, it's been said many times before that the demo is not necessarily exactly the same as the initial parts of the game. It's intended to be a teaser, not to plumb the depths of what the main character is going through emotionally and physically.

Sorta like how they gave you Bahamut summon materia in FF7 demo. Imagine if you would have judged FF7's quality and difficulty based on THAT demo lol.

[Scorch]

AS posted earlier some tru's are selling early. Tyron Blvd tru in St Pete is not

As INSANELY tempting as that is, I'm waiting for GS to sell it so I can pick up my CE.

And yeah, there's a ton of games coming out that I plan on picking up. Bioshock, Two Worlds (pending reviews), Stranglehold CE (already paid off), Blue Dragon (again, pending reviews), Rock Band, Halo 3, Half-Life 2 Orange Box (this is a must), Guitar Hero 3, Army of Two.. man

[slickkill77]

The one on fowler is though. I am going first thing in the morning

[Javery]

Well I got my 360 to work long enough to get throught the demo... WOW! I cannot wait to play the full game - hopefully yourfree360games will ship it soon (assuming I have a 360 to play it on).

[mykevermin]

Anyone know if the TRUs in the Cincinnati area are selling Bioshock early?

[dastly75]

The one on fowler is though. I am going first thing in the morning

That's tempting, I'm about 50 mins away from the Fowler TRU.

[slickkill77]

Um dude thats not worth it

[edison]

The local Wichita store didn't have it (or the clerk was clued into the street date) he said it wouldn't be available till the 21st.

I have the CE pre-ordered as well, but if TrU would have had I would have snatched it up. I really want to play this game.

[zewone]

That's tempting, I'm about 50 mins away from the Fowler TRU.
What's one hour and 40 minutes? Nothing.

I'd do it to get the game a week early.

[Liquid 2]

Put my monies down at GS for LE today.

[dastly75]

Um dude thats not worth it

Considering that theres also the Madden deal where you buy Madden and get a second game for 50% off, I think it's worth it.

[slickkill77]

Its up to you but that much driving...Did you consider gas.... Well yea I am doing that deal as well but ouch....Just so you know call ahead. I called at about 9 pm and the guy said they had about 6 but they werent displayed b/c its a mature game. Use this coupon as well.. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148442

[Kendal]

The demo was awesome. I loved it. It creeped me out, but I got over it. I can't wait to play the game in full next week.

[getmyrunon]

Don't forget to combine this with the TRU Madden deal, as it appears the TRUs are breaking the street date.

[ighosty]

Anyone know that if i take all games out of my Q on gamefly except bioshock, will they not send me anythign until they have bioshock in?

[Moxio]

Meh. Graphics were great (spent 15 minutes at the beginning after getting out of the water), but the game didn't seem that great.

[dastly75]

Its up to you but that much driving...Did you consider gas.... Well yea I am doing that deal as well but ouch....Just so you know call ahead. I called at about 9 pm and the guy said they had about 6 but they werent displayed b/c its a mature game. Use this coupon as well.. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148442

Well I have access to my dads honda civic hybrid and that thing gets a ton of MPG. Anyways someone in the deal thread mentioned that 99% of the east coasts TRUs will have Bioshock as it comes into stock and that they will be selling it as it has no street date. I'm gonna call the st. pete TRU tommorow again and make sure they're not BS-ing.

[rizzay]

newbs @ the gamestop i preordered the bioshock. i asked if they are going to have it tuesday at opening time, and the clerk asked his co worker and he said it ships in 10 days.

so can anyone answer my question? Is GS going to have these at opening or when UPS ships it? thanks.

[Rei no Otaku]

They'll have it when they open. Stores are getting the game tomorrow. It shipped out today. It's street dated until the 21st.

[SynGamer]

newbs @ the gamestop i preordered the bioshock. i asked if they are going to have it tuesday at opening time, and the clerk asked his co worker and he said it ships in 10 days.

so can anyone answer my question? Is GS going to have these at opening or when UPS ships it? thanks.

They'll likely get it either late the day it comes out or the next day. Depends on how close they are to the shipping facility. But from my past experiences with EB/GS, you can get it late in the evening the day it was released or sometime the next day. However, for something as big as say Halo 3, its like a 99.9% chance that they will have it at midnight.

[RelentlessRolento]

Atmosphere is a 10/10 for me. Don't know if the rest of the game holds up though. Seems like a mix between Doom3 and Oblivion.

[help1]

Meh. Graphics were great (spent 15 minutes at the beginning after getting out of the water), but the game didn't seem that great.

I have to agree. The game is very linear. Walk here because you can't walk anywhere else, search dead body because there is nothing else to do, kill person, tap b for health.

[Rei no Otaku]

They'll likely get it either late the day it comes out or the next day. Depends on how close they are to the shipping facility. But from my past experiences with EB/GS, you can get it late in the evening the day it was released or sometime the next day. However, for something as big as say Halo 3, its like a 99.9% chance that they will have it at midnight.
See my above post. Stores either already have it, or they're getting it in tomorrow's shipment.

[Sofa King Kool]

Just played through the demo again, and I must say, they're not kidding when they say you can't play the same way twice. The flow of enemies was much different this time around. There were places where I waited to get attacked and nothing happened. Then there were places where I didn't expect to get attacked and I did. So awesome. I'm going to reserve my LE tomorrow.

[Scorch]

I'm going to reserve my LE tomorrow.

I doubt they can guarentee it this late. It's under a week now, their order numbers have already been sent off.