View Full Version : **DEAD**XBOX 360 HD DVD player for $149.99 @ BB + 5 HDDVDs PU or FS
zizo79
08-01-2007, 03:51 AM
not bad
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8132095&st=360+hd-dvd&type=product&id=1158321865239
plus the 5 HDDVDs http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/hddvd/data/pdf/Toshiba_Online_Rebate_R08.pdf
and maybe a possible %12 or %10 off coupon if found will make it sweeter
here i found a link to the coupon since i dont know how to attach it http://forums.slickdeals.net/showpost.php?p=7440889&postcount=13 thanks to cincykid at SD
it says dvd players are included so : $149.99 - %10 = $134.99 + tax + free shipping
animemaniac14
08-01-2007, 03:53 AM
could i possibly PM this at CC and get it for even cheaper?! and that is a good deal man :-D thanks!
prateeko
08-01-2007, 03:54 AM
Solid deal. I'd get it but I'm happy with my PS3 for now...
hiccupleftovers
08-01-2007, 04:03 AM
Crazy good deal. Hopefully I can get some cash for this this week.
animemaniac14
08-01-2007, 04:09 AM
but you can't enter that 10% off coupon code online...can you? and how do you get 12%? man it's too early for me to be up working on a paper...
contej85
08-01-2007, 04:10 AM
Anyone know if these still include King Kong?
psyanide82
08-01-2007, 04:10 AM
Hmm...tempting, but I have seen it at Sam's Club or Costco for like $70 bucks clearance a while back, before I had my 360. I really want to watch Planet Earth in HD.
animemaniac14
08-01-2007, 04:17 AM
and i guess to take full advantage of the 360s hd dvd player...you would have to have an xbox 360 elite w/HDMI :( boo....now im debating on getting it or not
turls
08-01-2007, 04:20 AM
Hmm...tempting, but I have seen it at Sam's Club or Costco for like $70 bucks clearance a while back, before I had my 360. I really want to watch Planet Earth in HD.
But those were pretty hard to find for some of us and didn't include the 5 free DVDs (although the rebate form linked to in this thread doesn't mention the 360 HDDVD player is part of the deal--WTF? since I already ordered).
This is a price drop on the HDDVD player--but BB is $30 less than the price drop.
Justin42
08-01-2007, 04:25 AM
Seems weird overall, I'd jump but not sure if I'd regret it. That coupon seems very fishy (no number on the UPC code? Never seen that before on a BB coupon). Not to mention I'm sure they'd consider the drive a video game accessory (not mentioned on coupon-- or maybe even "video game hardware" which is specifically banned on most BB coupons) before they consider it a DVD player.
The coupon seems YMMV (bigtime) but the price is great. I wonder if MS took the collective yawn at the $179 price announcement as a sign they had to drop it more? Not sure why else BB would put it $30 cheaper.
mcdaking84
08-01-2007, 04:29 AM
will the 5 dvds work with this?
Graystone
08-01-2007, 04:34 AM
Today 8-1-07 M$ is officially dropping the price to $180, and including 5 free movies with it. I'm not sure the link in the OP would work for this as it states "toshiba hd dvd player." Now if you can get it in store for $135 thats a decent deal.
mietha
08-01-2007, 04:37 AM
and i guess to take full advantage of the 360s hd dvd player...you would have to have an xbox 360 elite w/HDMI :( boo....now im debating on getting it or not
Not at all. The VGA cable is capable of transmitting 1080p and the 360 hd-dvd player doesn't support TrueHD sound anyway, so you're not losing anything by not having HDMI there. If you are using anything other than VGA or HDMI though, you are capped at 720p. Remember, the PS3 is the best Blu ray player and the 360 add on is the worst (or at least one of the worst) HD DVD players, so it's great if you don't have a PS3, but if you do, there is absolutely no use for this unless you REALLY need to see Heroes in HD sooner rather than later. Blu Ray will win, and Universal will start releasing Blu Rays, but when that is going to happen? Who knows. I own both and I do buy HDs, but rarely and obviously only when there is not a Blu ray version available. There is really no comparison between the players. The PS3 blows the 360 add on away, which ALMOST makes up for the fact that the PS3 is basically useless for, oh, gaming...
animemaniac14
08-01-2007, 04:38 AM
and you could always sell those HD DVDs for around $10-$12 each on ebay and you'd get a nice HD DVD player for aroudn $80 :-D i still think im going to have to hold off cuz I don't have an xbox 360 elite...oh welll
EDIT: well in that case...im just going to wait period for a blu-ray player (if it really is THAT good...). I guess ill have to do some more research...no impulsive buying for me today :-D bwahahaha
Graystone
08-01-2007, 04:41 AM
I was going to buy one when the price dropped, and you got 5 free movies. But those movies mainly suck, and you don't get them when you purchase it. If I got them when I purchased it I could stick those on ebay right away. But I'll end up waiting 6-12 weeks or longer to get them.
turls
08-01-2007, 04:52 AM
Ok, I've looked everywhere and there does not seem to be an updated form that mentions the HDDVD player being eligible for the 5 free DVDs. That's the only way I'm keeping a neutered HDDVD player I may or may not ever hook up to my PC.
Should be YMMV in the OP until we see the form that confirms the press release. We all know they don't need much excuse to deny rebates, and since the form is only for Toshiba branded HDDVD players . . .
The other red flag--BB goes to all this trouble to nuke the competition day 1 on the new pricing but doesn't even mention the 5 free HDDVDs on the product page . . .
xcoax
08-01-2007, 05:13 AM
yeah, the form doesn't mention the 360 add on in the rebates yet, just toshiba players. i've been trying to figure out how this is going to work for awhile now, and won't bite until it clearly states 360 add on in the form.
Garfield
08-01-2007, 05:32 AM
If you are using anything other than VGA or HDMI though, you are capped at 720p.
You can get 1080i using component cable that comes with your Premium/Elite. I have a 360 Premium with the HD DVD Player, connected to my tv using the pack-in component cable, and both games and HD DVD movies are displayed in 1080i.
As for the rebate, there is probably going to be a new rebate form soon that includes the 360 HD DVD Player, seeing the deal just started today. The rebate form that's floating around is from the previous deal that started around April, and that deal did not inlcude the 360 HD DVD Player.
geehal
08-01-2007, 06:01 AM
damn, on the fence on this one. oh well, i ordered for store pickup so it gives me 6 days to think about it.
Graystone
08-01-2007, 06:21 AM
Amazons page for this mentions the 5 free movies, and its the same form at BBs.
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000JHO4L0/ref=pd_bbs_1/105-3750799-9073243?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1185960220&sr=8-1
gorgo
08-01-2007, 08:18 AM
Not at all. The VGA cable is capable of transmitting 1080p and the 360 hd-dvd player doesn't support TrueHD sound anyway, so you're not losing anything by not having HDMI there. If you are using anything other than VGA or HDMI though, you are capped at 720p. Remember, the PS3 is the best Blu ray player and the 360 add on is the worst (or at least one of the worst) HD DVD players,
Actually, it outputs 1080i through component. I've tried it with the premium and the elite, the HDMI has an edge, but it still looks far better than any DVD or HD cable/sattelite over component.
As far as comparisons to other HD-DVD players, it's always been reviewed as very solid. The only drawback is the lack of TrueHD, etc., which it converts to DTS or DD 5.1.
mtxbass1
08-01-2007, 08:30 AM
Still not cheap enough for me. After purchasing a PS3 (and watching a few blu-ray movies in 1080p) I don't see how I can watch standard definition again.
Kfoster1979
08-01-2007, 09:50 AM
Not at all. The VGA cable is capable of transmitting 1080p and the 360 hd-dvd player doesn't support TrueHD sound anyway, so you're not losing anything by not having HDMI there. If you are using anything other than VGA or HDMI though, you are capped at 720p. Remember, the PS3 is the best Blu ray player and the 360 add on is the worst (or at least one of the worst) HD DVD players, so it's great if you don't have a PS3, but if you do, there is absolutely no use for this unless you REALLY need to see Heroes in HD sooner rather than later. Blu Ray will win, and Universal will start releasing Blu Rays, but when that is going to happen? Who knows. I own both and I do buy HDs, but rarely and obviously only when there is not a Blu ray version available. There is really no comparison between the players. The PS3 blows the 360 add on away, which ALMOST makes up for the fact that the PS3 is basically useless for, oh, gaming...
Well I don't need to say anything about 1080i its been covered, however your wrong about the players. While the 360 it's self is by far considered one of the worst DVD players on the market the add on has had good reviews. The add on does nothing to to help the poor Standard DVD play back the HD Playback does a good job, it also has faster load times then some of the stand alone players. Also a review done by C-net they did benchmarking test and it kept up with the HD-DVD players on the market at the time of its release.
The PS3 on the other hand has one of the best up converting DVD players on the market. But the Blu is not king of the hill it considered by many good but middle of the road and at this point its no longer the cheapest on the market so that check box is no longer valid.
However as an owner of both they both do a great job of letting me watch HD content and I tend to buy what ever I get the best deal on lets just say my HD-DVD collection is bigger and the only Blu rays I have are exclusive to Blu ray. And if you want to know who will win it will be what ever camp has the first sub 200 player in wal mart. I think both will survive because as we see with the live market place and the PSN people are moving to digital distribution, On demand, and Video downloads the only thing holding it back is bandwidth.
doubledown
08-01-2007, 10:05 AM
Still not cheap enough for me. After purchasing a PS3 (and watching a few blu-ray movies in 1080p) I don't see how I can watch standard definition again.
1080i is NOT standard definition. You will barely notice a difference between the HD-DVD and the PS3 (I have both).
Plus, get an ELITE, then you have your HDMI port (or 1080p over VGA).
Graet deal though....$135 is a steal (w/5 movies that you can keep or sell)
guyver2077
08-01-2007, 10:21 AM
great price if your on the fence about this....
remember this can be connected to your pc as well..
what a steal..
even without an elite, this looked great on regular 360 with component.. you can barely tell a difference
nativetongue88
08-01-2007, 10:29 AM
this is very tempting but after hearing the news that blockbuster choose blu-ray i think i know which format is going to win.
velvet396
08-01-2007, 10:34 AM
I think I'll still wait for $99. That's my magical price.
Kfoster1979
08-01-2007, 10:41 AM
this is very tempting but after hearing the news that blockbuster choose blu-ray i think i know which format is going to win.
Thats in store only you can still get HD-DVD's with online rental.
psunami
08-01-2007, 10:44 AM
I'm going to be fighting off the urge to buy this all day.
crazynater
08-01-2007, 10:48 AM
Anyone know if there is a rebate .pdf out there that actually says XBOX 360 HD DVD Player on it? Once I see it on the rebate, I'll bite.
fuerstma
08-01-2007, 10:51 AM
Ditto, I too am waiting for a PDF with the HD DVD player on it. Though the press release on xbox.com mentions the 360 HD DVD player now being part of the promotion. Still, I am kind of surprised MS and Toshiba weren't a little more up to speed on updating the Mail In Rebate PDF!
shine5555
08-01-2007, 10:54 AM
I have this add-on and it is great. The up conversion is fine, the HD is great. Just try it out if you’re on the fence. (30 return policy)
1080i is great; it will output 1080P through VGA and also looks great. I have tried VGA (1080P) and Component (1080i) and can not tell the difference. I have this on my 56" Samsung (1080P) and my theater room with a 110” screen (Optio 720P). I also have a Toshiba a1 and you can not tell the difference in picture quality from the add-on to the stand alone.
I have Blue ray as well, and the picture between them is a wash. Some movies look better on HD DVD and some look better on Blue-ray. With a well done movie the quality between blue and HD is the same (to me)
Let me know if you have any questions.
crazynater
08-01-2007, 11:06 AM
I need a little advice on this. I have a 30" widescreen CRT that can do 1080i and does not have HDMI. Do you think with this television, would it be worth it to jump into HD movies? Will I be able to tell a significant difference that would be worth the cost?
Admittedly a great deal, BUT I have to disagree with others that HD-DVD will be a viable option into the future. There's a reason Blockbuster and more and more studios are going Blu-Ray -- it's far outselling the HD-DVD format according to the latest sales figures. Yeah, it's early in the format wars, but the signs are already there. Nevermind that with bandwidth improvement online digital distribution is the future. (Still, it IS tempting ... )
Kfoster1979
08-01-2007, 11:14 AM
I need a little advice on this. I have a 30" widescreen CRT that can do 1080i and does not have HDMI. Do you think with this television, would it be worth it to jump into HD movies? Will I be able to tell a significant difference that would be worth the cost?
Maybe, its hard to tell do you watch any HD content like cable or over the air? I think you would be able to see a difference the question is it worth it over say a 480p DVD? A good CRT in a small size with say a good upconvert DVD player will look awesome, but it will never be HD content. It's up to you I say look at some HDTV content then look at the same content in SD if you can see a big jump in that take the plunge and get the add on.
Pookymeister
08-01-2007, 11:19 AM
Anyone know if there is a rebate .pdf out there that actually says XBOX 360 HD DVD Player on it? Once I see it on the rebate, I'll bite.
bite away
http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/pdfs/07Q3/0801-0930jw_5hddvd_microsoft.pdf
psunami
08-01-2007, 11:22 AM
Edit: Pookymeister beat me to it.
jadedcritic
08-01-2007, 11:29 AM
Thought about it, least until I realized that the available DVD's from which to choose your five free, well...kinda suck. Apollo13 was OK; but nothing I'd have bought if they weren't free. Edit - Constantine is about the best thing going in that stack. IMHO
NegativeZero
08-01-2007, 11:34 AM
I just sold my hd dvd drive, to rebuy with free dvds. but now im really considering a ps3 because truthfully its looking like blu-ray will win.
I love my 360 ,but I'm thinking i should just put that money towards a ps3.
I have had no red rings and ive had mine sine about launch.
please help me make a decision. and i just boughtthe host on hd dvd now i probably have to rebuy in blu-ray format.
fuerstma
08-01-2007, 11:38 AM
Thanks for the link to the PDF. With that printed out, I clicked "Add to Cart" on bestbuy.com and it's sold out! Ahhh that's what I get for waiting. Can't find it for $150 anywhere else online right now...
fuerstma
08-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Provantage seems to have them for $154 + Ship, I am gonna try that route, I guess.
I just sold my hd dvd drive, to rebuy with free dvds. but now im really considering a ps3 because truthfully its looking like blu-ray will win.
I love my 360 ,but I'm thinking i should just put that money towards a ps3.
I have had no red rings and ive had mine sine about launch.
please help me make a decision. and i just boughtthe host on hd dvd now i probably have to rebuy in blu-ray format.
Get the PS3. I love my 360 too and think it has the best titles bar none now and for the near future at least. But I'll be getting a PS3 if only to upgrade my PS2; besides I agree Blu-Ray looks like a winner.
stoned99
08-01-2007, 11:44 AM
I had heard that you can also connect the HD-Drive to a pc, this certainly expands the appeal.
fuerstma
08-01-2007, 11:45 AM
Provantage - shipping was $9 to Michigan, but no tax, which is nice.
DCriminal
08-01-2007, 11:53 AM
Can someone elaborate on being able to (or not) connect this to a PC?
crazynater
08-01-2007, 11:56 AM
Damn, I have tons of store credit for FYE and they haven't dropped their price yet from $199...
Plus seeing that BB has sold out online and isn't available for store pickup, it looks like the $149 was a price mistake that someone finally caught. Can anyone confirm the price instore BB?
Pookymeister
08-01-2007, 11:59 AM
Damn, I have tons of store credit for FYE and they haven't dropped their price yet from $199...
Plus seeing that BB has sold out online and isn't available for store pickup, it looks like the $149 was a price mistake that someone finally caught. Can anyone confirm the price instore BB?
Yea, i just got back from store and bought last one for $150.
I actually just bought one for $150 shipped from a CAG but that included 9 HD-DVDs - ill just pawn that one off to a friend for $125 or something.
nativetongue88
08-01-2007, 12:00 PM
oh wow you are right. i did not know that. hmmm makes this even more tempting considering i have blockbuster online.
v0yce
08-01-2007, 12:05 PM
Question: (I don't think this is too shady)
I already own the add on, and I still have its box. So, in theory, I should be able to...
-buy a new HDDVD drive,
-copy its receipt and use the old one's box code to get the free movies,
-and then take back the new drive.
Right?
velvet396
08-01-2007, 12:28 PM
Question: (I don't think this is too shady)
I already own the add on, and I still have its box. So, in theory, I should be able to...
-buy a new HDDVD drive,
-copy its receipt and use the old one's box code to get the free movies,
-and then take back the new drive.
Right?
I'm betting the rebate won't process until after the return period for your drive expires. And upon processing it they'll notice that you returned it, i.e., no rebate. At least, that's how it works with Staples. I'd just be careful with this route.
guyjr
08-01-2007, 12:30 PM
Hmm.... I know my local BB had a few of these in-stock last Saturday. Can someone give just a quick comparison of the XB360 HDDVD add-on vs the best standalong HDDVD player out there? Is it really that bad - I basically just want to watch Netflix HDDVD titles in full 5.1 surround. $150 + 5 free movies seems like a good deal even if the format will wither in the next couple of years, and it will put off the inevitable PS3 purchase that much longer too.
BelieveTheHype
08-01-2007, 12:31 PM
bah it's sold out...think circuit city would still price match?
Pookymeister
08-01-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm betting the rebate won't process until after the return period for your drive expires. And upon processing it they'll notice that you returned it, i.e., no rebate. At least, that's how it works with Staples. I'd just be careful with this route.
The rebate doesn't go through best buy.
grendel19
08-01-2007, 12:32 PM
I need a little advice on this. I have a 30" widescreen CRT that can do 1080i and does not have HDMI. Do you think with this television, would it be worth it to jump into HD movies? Will I be able to tell a significant difference that would be worth the cost?I have a 34" CRT and the 360 HD DVD player since day 1. The difference isn't staggering, but it really depends on how far you're sitting from your TV. Obviously, the further back, the less discernible difference there will be, especially if you're comparing it to a well mastered standard DVD.
But move yourself a little closer, and you can definitely notice all the details only seen on high definition.
To be honest, IMHO both HD DVD & Blu-ray only truly shine when you're watching on a much larger screen, e.g. 46" or greater (arbitrary guess).
koltz
08-01-2007, 12:35 PM
Can someone elaborate on being able to (or not) connect this to a PC?It is plug and play with Vista, I believe there are hacked drivers for XP. But to play movies, you will need to get a copy of the latest WinDVD or similar product that decodes the HD-DVD's.
mtxbass1
08-01-2007, 12:39 PM
1080i is NOT standard definition. You will barely notice a difference between the HD-DVD and the PS3 (I have both).
Plus, get an ELITE, then you have your HDMI port (or 1080p over VGA).
Graet deal though....$135 is a steal (w/5 movies that you can keep or sell)
When did I say it was? I output 1080P with the PS3 and notice a huge difference between it, and anything else. Why should I have to rebuy an "elite" just to get HDMI? I already use HDMI on the PS3, and VGA on the 360 I currently own.
skagamer
08-01-2007, 12:45 PM
I am definitely going to have to pick up on this. I was already in the market for a new DVD player so this is great. /runs to BB
grendel19
08-01-2007, 12:51 PM
It is plug and play with Vista, I believe there are hacked drivers for XP. But to play movies, you will need to get a copy of the latest WinDVD or similar product that decodes the HD-DVD's.You'll also need something along the lines of Slysofts Anydvd to nullify the HDCP handshake between the source and the monitor and the video card. Otherwise, it works just fine on the PC.
Be aware though, you'll need a hefty CPU to play HD DVD. You'll need at least the low end Core 2 Duos. I have a P4 3.0 and all I get is a green screen with audio. And preferrably a 8 series NVidia. I have a 7800GT and that's borderline for HD optical media.
richieyoo
08-01-2007, 12:54 PM
Deal looks dead. Its not available for instore pick up anymore.
guyver2077
08-01-2007, 01:01 PM
It is plug and play with Vista, I believe there are hacked drivers for XP. But to play movies, you will need to get a copy of the latest WinDVD or similar product that decodes the HD-DVD's.
correct works easily on vista.... with drivers it works just fine in xp as well...
nosferatu51
08-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Hmm.... I know my local BB had a few of these in-stock last Saturday. Can someone give just a quick comparison of the XB360 HDDVD add-on vs the best standalong HDDVD player out there? Is it really that bad - I basically just want to watch Netflix HDDVD titles in full 5.1 surround. $150 + 5 free movies seems like a good deal even if the format will wither in the next couple of years, and it will put off the inevitable PS3 purchase that much longer too.
That's identical to what I do and it is fantastic. I don't have an analog capable receiver, so using the TOSLINK is my best option. With the 360AO, all you lose is the TrueHD audio (you can still have very nice 5.1 with no problem though) and (potentially) the 1080p if your TV doesn't take VGA. The DVD upconversion of standalone players is also a nice feature, but the value of that is up to you.
With Netflix, this drive is awesome.... I've started buying movies now though because I'm loving this little thing.
Pravus
08-01-2007, 01:47 PM
Best buy now showing $179. :cry:
turls
08-01-2007, 01:57 PM
Wow, I figured they were just out of stock but them putting it back up to $179 makes me real glad I jumped on this when I did, on top of having the $15 GC from the Guitar Hero Encore deal. I know some have done better at Sam's, and combining this purchase with an HD-DVD you want is still an option with the $40 off $200 at CC, but this works out well for me.
zizo79
08-01-2007, 02:04 PM
man ,i started this thread and i didnt get one because i thought i could score one at the store since i have $100 worth of reward zone certificates
NegativeZero
08-01-2007, 05:11 PM
BB is FULL OF SH*T. one minute it's sold out at $150, but now all of a sudden when price jumps to $180 the magically come back instock. A-Holes.
Pookymeister
08-01-2007, 05:16 PM
BB is FULL OF SH*T. one minute it's sold out at $150, but now all of a sudden when price jumps to $180 the magically come back instock. A-Holes.
At least it was valid in stores too
guyjr
08-01-2007, 06:47 PM
At least it was valid in stores too
Apparently so - I called the local BB at 2pm today and the douchebag claimed it was out of stock. Just checked the web site - in-stock for store pickup.
Might be time for me to just say to hell with all big box retailers and stick with Amazon / New Egg from now on.
Black.IC
08-01-2007, 08:36 PM
Did anyone save the website page with the $149.99 price? I heard they have to honor it.