Big Daddy Cool's wrestling topic [Mobile/Archive] - Page 2

JaytheGamefan

08-09-2007, 10:59 PM

God... I can't wait to see Kurt Angle with 5 championship belts.

The image of him holding them all up, yelling, coated in sweat, on the top rope needs to be immortalized in stained glass.
...so expect TNA to cut away instantly the second he holds the belts up, like they did when 3D finally won the tag titles after trying to win them for a year and a half.

The first match was decent, but way too hard to follow with six men involved, and the show only having two matches, with neither of them being particularly memorable, hurt it. Yet another bad show, although it was slightly better than last week. At least it was entertaining.

That really is Karen Angle, and TNA wants Jones to wrestle. He was on ESPN today and stated that he "learned how to fall and all the moves in 40 minutes". Yup, hell of a signing by TNA.

Zenithian Legend

08-09-2007, 11:01 PM

Matt Young

08-09-2007, 11:04 PM

Have you tried the VLC Media Player? They work just fine if you use that.

I have no idea what that is.

MorbidAngel4Life

08-09-2007, 11:38 PM

Wow, I thought I'd give TNA a chance tonight. What a fucking joke that was, I severely hope this was an off night, cause the only thing that entertained me was Kurt being goofy Kurt, including the Nash stuff.

JaytheGamefan

08-09-2007, 11:51 PM

Seems as though they're on a hype-train to the ppv.

They're also showing why they badly need that second hour. The roster is definitely deep enough to support 2 hours at this point... hell if SD can go 2 hours, oi.
A second hour won't solve TNA's problems, but it SHOULD allow for more of their roster to be showcased, and that additional hour would end the bullshit excuse of "BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE HOUR!" when they get flack for having a run of bad shows with too little wrestling.

Purple Flames

08-10-2007, 12:06 AM

I have no idea what that is.
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,64558/description.html

Punk_Raven

08-10-2007, 12:22 AM

Karen turning on Joe is WCW 2000 booking. Literately, some thing happened in a match between DDP and Jarret when whas her face was at ringside. Not knowing anything about the storyline while watching a video of it, I saw that coming from a mile away. Though, I'm positive you were being sarcastic.

Jones doens't even belive in the what he's doing. Now that you've said that I don't think I'll ever be able to watch him wrestle without hating him.

Zenithian Legend

08-10-2007, 12:35 AM

A second hour won't solve TNA's problems, but it SHOULD allow for more of their roster to be showcased, and that additional hour would end the bullshit excuse of "BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE HOUR!" when they get flack for having a run of bad shows with too little wrestling.

As far as I see it TNA doesn't really have problems, they're still in the early development stages. Although they're missing a golden opportunity to really strike while WWE is in the dumps.

guyver2077

08-10-2007, 10:51 AM

i hate fucking last minute plans.. i may actually go ny but prices are now ridiculous and for shitty seats... fuk that

pitfallharry219

08-10-2007, 11:00 AM

I just read a conspiracy theory about how maybe Jeff Jarrett is just bringing Pacman Jones in to actually injure him in a shoot fight as payback for the person paralyzed in the nightclub shooting. Supposedly JJ knew the guy. I highly doubt that there's any truth to this, but I like that possibility more than just bringing him in as a publicity stunt.

JaytheGamefan

08-10-2007, 03:57 PM

There is zero chance of that being the real reason he brought him in - he's a nationally-known name - that's why TNA brought him in.

tangytangerine

08-10-2007, 06:22 PM

Boy do I see ratings rising from that main event woohoo! :rofl:
if you think that's bad, wait until you see Chavo Guerrero prancing around as Rey Mysterio. The show overall has clusterfuck written all over it.

I didn't read how the main event ends. But I'm guessing Khali palms Flair to death.

Demolition Man

08-10-2007, 06:32 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ....

Thank god for NFL preseason. Vikings & Patriots FTW!!!!

Zenithian Legend

08-10-2007, 06:46 PM

ESPN.com is reporting that the Tennessee Titans have filed a restraining order against Adam "Pacman" Jones that will prevent him from participating in Sunday's TNA Hard Justice pay-per-view.

So, are they doing this because they're legit worried that Pacman will get hurt, or because they want to fuck with him like he fucked with them, and not let him get involved in something else?

Brak

08-10-2007, 06:48 PM

So, are they doing this because they're legit worried that Pacman will get hurt, or because they want to fuck with him like he fucked with them, and not let him get involved in something else?
They're doing it to fuck with him.

This was a train wreck, from the get-go.

I hate it when celebrities dabble in wrestling.

(Unless they're the reverse-comedy god Andy Kaufman.)

mykevermin

08-10-2007, 06:53 PM

In hindsight, Kevin Federline was funny.

He was MAD over as a heel. It is either a statement of what a great entertainer he is, how much time people waste in their lives being enmeshed in celebrity gossip, or how pitifully awful, by comparison, the WWE's characters were developed.

All 3, IMO. B/w his WWE appearance and the insurance (?) commercial he did (you know the one - "FEDERLINE! FRIES!"), I think rather highly of him.

Brak

08-10-2007, 06:54 PM

Genocidal

08-10-2007, 07:49 PM

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/articles/4791380/mvpmostvaluableprogram

WWE.com is reporting that during a standard Wellness policy physical, an abnormal accessory pathway to the heart (Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome) was discovered in US Heavyweight MVP. It is a potentially life threatening condition that could lead to a heart attack if untreated. He will be able to continue wrestling because according to WWE.com, MVP "underwent a precarious radio frequency treatment this past Monday – a procedure that is equally dangerous in that one in 1,000 individuals die during it. Next week, tests will be performed again to see if the procedure was a success."That's enough proof for me that the Wellness Policy is better than nothing, even if it's under heavy scrutiny for the amount of drug use that performers can get away with.

Brak

08-10-2007, 07:51 PM

I like MVP.

BWALLIN'!

mykevermin

08-10-2007, 07:53 PM

That's nice to know about MVP, but that article is PURE propaganda.

DJSteel

08-10-2007, 08:00 PM

wwe.com also said vince was dead...

JaytheGamefan

08-10-2007, 08:07 PM

The heart issue with MVP is legit, WWE.com's only reporting it to deflect criticism from their wellness policy, and possibly give an explanation if MVP needs to miss a great deal of time due to this issue.

Impact last night got a 1.00 rating - down from last week's, despite all the mainstream publicity the Pacman Jones signing got them. Ouch.

guyver2077

08-10-2007, 08:50 PM

wtf..i was watching the old zelda cartoons and when the credits came on..

i noticed mario being played by lou albano

OnyxPrimal

08-10-2007, 08:51 PM

They're doing it to fuck with him.

This was a train wreck, from the get-go.

I hate it when celebrities dabble in wrestling.

(Unless they're the reverse-comedy god Andy Kaufman.)

Kaufman respected wrestling and wrestlers a great deal. In kept kayfabe so well that even Dave Letterman thought that whole situation was real. Guys like Jones and Rodman before him just see it as something they watch sometimes and say "that's cool.. I got money... I can make that happen.". They want to do just enough to get by. I mean look at at jones saying he learned "all the moves in 40 min" That's one the most disrespectful things I've ever heard. I've had it with "stars" in wrestling.

DJSteel

08-10-2007, 09:53 PM

wtf..i was watching the old zelda cartoons and when the credits came on..

i noticed mario being played by lou albano

wow nothing gets past you...

pitfallharry219

08-10-2007, 10:14 PM

wtf..i was watching the old zelda cartoons and when the credits came on..

i noticed mario being played by lou albano

Welcome to 1989.

Demolition Man

08-11-2007, 03:40 AM

Impact last night got a 1.00 rating - down from last week's, despite all the mainstream publicity the Pacman Jones signing got them. Ouch.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If anything all this has done is pissing off TNA's core audience. Nice job Jeff Jarrett. Nice job.

PhrostByte

08-11-2007, 06:03 AM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If anything all this has done is pissing off TNA's core audience. Nice job Jeff Jarrett. Nice job.

Seriously... I mean I thought Impact has been decent as of late... but pales in comparison to let's say... 2 years ago. Where's my damn X-Divsion?

Next Impact should just be a 42 minute 3 way dance with Joe, Styles, and Daniels.

Demolition Man

08-11-2007, 06:08 AM

Speaking of the X Division.... Meltzer just reported that the death of the X Division has been greatly exaggerated.

IAmTheCheapestGamer

08-11-2007, 06:17 AM

I have an idea for the comedy match of the year:

Michael Vick vs. Rick Steiner

Steiner could get down on all fours n bark at Vick and after Vick tries to swat him away, Steiner could chomp down on Vick's leg.

Ratings GOLD, I tells ya.. LOL

mykevermin

08-11-2007, 09:47 AM

Michael Vick. No *THERE* is someone I wouldn't mind a wrestler shoot on.

PhrostByte

08-11-2007, 11:16 AM

Speaking of the X Division.... Meltzer just reported that the death of the X Division has been greatly exaggerated.

What do you mean? By who? Us? IWC?

X-Division was the reason I got into TNA... at the time the main event had guys like Jarrett, Monty Brown, Raven, Rhino... that wasn't exactly my reason for tuning in yaknow?

After this whole Angle/Joe 5-title escapade fades away I really hope the X-Division comes back in full force. Sonjay got his gimmick change, now where's his push? :)

evanft

08-11-2007, 02:18 PM

I was watching USA, and they had a promo for Raw that asked , "Who is Mr. McMahon's illegitimate child?"

Yeah.....

Demolition Man

08-11-2007, 02:41 PM

What do you mean? By who? Us? IWC?

Obviously you missed out a bit ago on the news that TNA was looking to drop the X Division that was reported by our good "friend" Gerwick.

mykevermin

08-11-2007, 03:09 PM

Today's OVW had a 17-20 minute match between Colt Cabana and Shawn Spears.

Well worth the download, if you typically don't download them. I'll have it up later tonight, as I'm encoding it right now, but won't be around to upload it this afternoon.

JaytheGamefan

08-11-2007, 03:18 PM

OnyxPrimal

08-11-2007, 04:10 PM

http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20417

Pacman Jones will NOT be wrestling in TNA, nor will he be able to take part in anything physical. Brilliant signing, TNA. They got a bunch of pub for bringing him in, and yet the ratings went down, and now they can't even pop a buyrate with him wrestling for the company. It's sad to see just how far TNA has fallen after being easily the best national wrestling company in '05. Oh, and Impact's final rating ended up being a 0.9 - lower than the initial 1.0 reported rating. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

That's what they get for "marking out" over this overgrown child. How much do you think they paid him? How much do you think that would help Konnan right now? Or hey let's not even go there.... Just think of some of the talent they could get for the price they paid Pacman. Hell I'd rather get David Flair back in the ring then this blemish on society. If TNA would focus on the X division, get 2 hours, clean up some booking (having all the titles on the line in one match is asinine!) we'd have a show again. Remember when TNA moved to Thursday and they Opened with Joe vs Daniels for the X division title? What happened? Signing Cage and Angle was good for TNA, but it still seems reliant on ex-WWE talent and pushing them. Test? Tomko? (in all fairness I'm starting to like Tomko for some ungodly reason, but that was my 1st thought) I want TNA to do great things and truly rise to not just number 2 by default, but Number 2 for a reason.

PhrostByte

08-11-2007, 04:47 PM

Obviously you missed out a bit ago on the news that TNA was looking to drop the X Division that was reported by our good "friend" Gerwick.

OMGWTFBBQ! :cold:

That would be a HUGE mistake...

er... nevermind... couldn't have said it better than OnyxPrimal. I miss TNA '05... Hell I even miss TNA '04 and '06.

JaytheGamefan

08-11-2007, 04:53 PM

That's what they get for "marking out" over this overgrown child. How much do you think they paid him? How much do you think that would help Konnan right now? Or hey let's not even go there.... Just think of some of the talent they could get for the price they paid Pacman. Hell I'd rather get David Flair back in the ring then this blemish on society. If TNA would focus on the X division, get 2 hours, clean up some booking (having all the titles on the line in one match is asinine!) we'd have a show again. Remember when TNA moved to Thursday and they Opened with Joe vs Daniels for the X division title? What happened? Signing Cage and Angle was good for TNA, but it still seems reliant on ex-WWE talent and pushing them. Test? Tomko? (in all fairness I'm starting to like Tomko for some ungodly reason, but that was my 1st thought) I want TNA to do great things and truly rise to not just number 2 by default, but Number 2 for a reason.
I think TNA just lost all sense of vision for the company, and decided to rely on past formulas that worked, but are unfortunately archaic in 2007. They also seem to have lost all faith in their homegrown talent being able to draw money, as evidenced by them hiring tons of ex-WWE guys despite already having dozens of men on their roster being either underutilized or not being utilized at all for months on end.

They've also greatly decreased the amount of wrestling, let alone quality wrestling, on their PPVs and TV shows, which has basically killed their main strength in '05, which was having incredible, state-of-the-art wrestling on a regular basis, and have instead traded that in for a bunch of skits, promos, vignettes, and interviews that their talent isn't all that skilled at performing.

DJSteel

08-11-2007, 05:07 PM

....and it's still better than the WWE...lol

Sporadic

08-11-2007, 07:59 PM

I just met Kurt Angle and D-Von Dudley at D-Von's smoothie shop. Bubba no showed.

Pretty cool, $5 for autographs from both and I got my picture taken with them.

Kurt Angle was out of it and D-Von was awesome. He thought it was hilarious when my nephew threw the Dudley sign.

I wish my sister would have told me my hair was blocking Zander in the Angle shot.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7526/kurtyu5.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9223/dvonwd4.jpg

D_Icon

08-11-2007, 08:54 PM

Thats awsome.

Were there a lot of people there?

Sporadic

08-11-2007, 09:00 PM

Thats awsome.

Were there a lot of people there?

There were about 100 people outside and a radio station truck.

The place was really small (next to a gym I guess D-Von also owns) so they were letting people in ten at a time.

Kurt Angle had some chick masageing his shoulders while D-Von was goofing around with all of the kids.

On a small TV, they had old matches from the Attitude era (I noticed Stone Cold and an unblurred WWF sign) playing which Kurt was watching rather intensely (that man has the scariest glare I have ever seen) when people weren't bothering him.

Didn't try any of the smoothies but the place seems to be run solely by teenage girls.

Brak

08-12-2007, 12:11 AM

They want to do just enough to get by. I mean look at at jones saying he learned "all the moves in 40 min" That's one the most disrespectful things I've ever heard. I've had it with "stars" in wrestling.
Yeah. That comment made me roll my eyes.

Scorch

08-12-2007, 01:28 AM

Angle doesn't look like himself. Look at his eyes. It looks like he's not there. That's pretty scary.

Demolition Man

08-12-2007, 02:06 AM

er... nevermind... couldn't have said it better than OnyxPrimal. I miss TNA '05... Hell I even miss TNA '04 and '06.

You would have loved TNA in 2003. Yeah there was some very Russo moments during 2003 but there was a LOT of awesome as well:

- Raven vs Jarrett fued
- AMW vs Triple X's first steel cage match (along with their fued)
- The X Division was epically insane including the first Ultimate X plus a number of people who were in the X Divison at time time like Kid Kash, Paul London, Amazing Red, Michael Shane, Frankie Kazarian, Chris Sabin, etc.
- Many epic main events (ie: Wednesday Bloody Wednesday, Raven vs Shane Douglas hair vs hair)

God I loved TNA in 2003. :D

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 02:26 AM

Angle doesn't look like himself. Look at his eyes. It looks like he's not there. That's pretty scary.

I didn't want to play it up but he made me and my sister uncomfortable as hell.

There's more to that TV story then I originally posted.

On a small TV, they had old matches from the Attitude era (I noticed Stone Cold and an unblurred WWF sign) playing which Kurt was watching rather intensely (that man has the scariest glare I have ever seen) when people weren't bothering him.

This happened when we were next in line. A larger family were ahead of us. They got their autographs and were moving on to D-Von's side. Security didn't wave us forward, so we stood there.

The TV was behind us and he just glared at it with that death look for the next 4 minutes before finally shaking out of it and saying "are you guys ready?"

As I walked up, he grabbed a photo and just looked down at the paper with his hand ready to write. I was waiting for a "what's your name" or just name. Eventually I just said my name, he signed the photo, shook my hand, mustered up a smile. Then he signed one for my nephew.

After he did that, I asked if we could get a photo. Sure he said and slid out his chair a little bit. That's when I had to pick up Zander and try to balance him and get close enough behind the table for the photo.

Later on when I asked my sister why she didn't tell me my hair was blocking her shot and I swear to you her exact words were "I didn't want to take more time than I had to"

Like I said he mustered up a smile but his eyes were just dead and he gave off this cocky not here persona.

One of the weirdest encounters I have ever had with a wrestler (and I've had midget Booker T hit on and give my underage sister his phone number when we were younger) but it was awesome.

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/2885/12ht6.jpg

tangytangerine

08-12-2007, 07:28 AM

One of the weirdest encounters I have ever had with a wrestler (and I've had midget Booker T hit on and give my underage sister his phone number when we were younger) but it was awesome.

Woah, wait a minute. WTF is with that story?

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 01:03 PM

im scouring through craigslist trying to find tix again for raw

pitfallharry219

08-12-2007, 01:09 PM

im scouring through craigslist trying to find tix again for raw

The MSG box office site says there are still some available.

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 01:10 PM

The MSG box office site says there are still some available.

ill check.. i was looking at ticketmaster and nothing

edit.. nope nothing.. it just takes you to ticketmaster

pitfallharry219

08-12-2007, 01:13 PM

ill check.. i was looking at ticketmaster and nothing

edit.. nope nothing.. it just takes you to ticketmaster

Bastards.

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 01:25 PM

Woah, wait a minute. WTF is with that story?

A long time ago, the midget who played Booker T on Raw a few years back, was at a local baseball game signing autographs and stuff. He wasn't anybody really famous but he was a local in the indie scene around here.

Well, during the game, he took a shining to my (I guess 15?) year old sister and was hitting on her pretty hard. They were talking and eventually she asked if he could get a bunch of signatures of other wrestlers when he was on the road since I'm a massive fan. He said sure, slipped her his phone number and told her to stay in touch.

She did but I never got my autographs :cry:

He's a cool guy overall. One of the funniest memories was after a show at a carnival, he was riding around on a minibike having the time of his life.

It's one of the benefits of living down in Florida, there are always a ton of shows going on and a ton of wrestlers around since most of them live down here.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 01:29 PM

How much do you think that would help Konnan right now? Or hey let's not even go there

Now, I agree that Pacman is a colossal waste of money and a mentality of a style of booking that lost its cool half a decade ago, but I don't agree that this is a fair comparison.

I like Konnan as a wrestler and as a mentor, but I don't think that this is a "TNA's fault versus Konnan's fault" issue. TNA should have covered some of the expenses of his surgeries, but they are also not responsible, fully, for his condition. Hell, he hardly even wrestled in TNA (as part of 3LK and that's about it, I think), so the brunt of his abuse happened in AAA and WCW. Of course, if you want to argue about paying for Sonjay Dutt's health care, that may be another argument altogether.

In a rare show of optimism, I hope that signing Pacman is an indication that TNA has enough money to burn that they'll be in business for a long time. A long time, that is, if they avoid this bullshit booking style. They have something good on their hands as a booking foundation (look at how they have used 4 hours of TV a month to build damn near *every* match on each PPV, compared to WWE's 20 hours a month of programming, where they push (at best) 2-3 matches ahead of time. I think that TNA could be great, but their booking committee needs to hire an additional person, whose only job is to stand up and yell "THE ATTITUDE ERA IS DEAD YOU DUMB BASTARDS!" at the appropriate times at booking meetings.

EDIT: Triple Mania XV is on today! Huzzah!

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 02:21 PM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4CR5CSZZ

Yesterday's OVW TV. Good is you like wrestling, and good if you like Eugene. Yech.

tangytangerine

08-12-2007, 03:25 PM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4CR5CSZZ

Yesterday's OVW TV. Good is you like wrestling, and good if you like Eugene. Yech.

Yeah, it was a pretty dull show yesterday. I was waiting until the commentators buried Eugene, but they never did. I guess only JBL can do that :roll:.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 03:26 PM

A dull show, but with a very solid, and rather lengthy, match b/w Shawn Spears and Colt Cabana.

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 03:49 PM

ok so i found this guy that looks like he is going to hold my ticket until i arrive tomorrow.. he is requesting 195 or obo... i will prob give him the 195 if he actually holds the tix..

its still floor... not as good as the ones i found earlier in the week but not bad for last minute... sec 21

http://www.stubhub.com/data/venue_maps/1282/stubhub_6711_MSG_Center.png

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 05:29 PM

pitfallharry219

08-12-2007, 05:32 PM

Why don't you just wait for Wrestlemania tickets to go on sale? I believe it's going to happen some time in November.

November 13

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 07:28 PM

Why don't you just wait for Wrestlemania tickets to go on sale? I believe it's going to happen some time in November.

trust me... ill have those too.

i already got survivor series tix as well

OnyxPrimal

08-12-2007, 07:48 PM

Now, I agree that Pacman is a colossal waste of money and a mentality of a style of booking that lost its cool half a decade ago, but I don't agree that this is a fair comparison.

I like Konnan as a wrestler and as a mentor, but I don't think that this is a "TNA's fault versus Konnan's fault" issue. TNA should have covered some of the expenses of his surgeries, but they are also not responsible, fully, for his condition. Hell, he hardly even wrestled in TNA (as part of 3LK and that's about it, I think), so the brunt of his abuse happened in AAA and WCW. Of course, if you want to argue about paying for Sonjay Dutt's health care, that may be another argument altogether.

In a rare show of optimism, I hope that signing Pacman is an indication that TNA has enough money to burn that they'll be in business for a long time. A long time, that is, if they avoid this bullshit booking style. They have something good on their hands as a booking foundation (look at how they have used 4 hours of TV a month to build damn near *every* match on each PPV, compared to WWE's 20 hours a month of programming, where they push (at best) 2-3 matches ahead of time. I think that TNA could be great, but their booking committee needs to hire an additional person, whose only job is to stand up and yell "THE ATTITUDE ERA IS DEAD YOU DUMB BASTARDS!" at the appropriate times at booking meetings.

EDIT: Triple Mania XV is on today! Huzzah!

I'm not saying they should or shouldn't pay for Konnan. There is a lot more to the story on both sides and I can't make that call. I'm just saying helping him out would be a better use for the cash than to give it to someone who:

A. doesnt need it and
B. is already less useful than Konnan before making one appearance.

and I use the word give. I mean according to the court ruling he can pretty much stand there and talk... and that's it. He can't even be a ring side enforcer for a match because of the "no touchy" policy in effect would kill any sense of him being able to do anything. I'm not even sure he's allowed to get in the ring to make a 3 count as some kind of guest ref. I mean use the money on advertising.. Advertise in Maxim or something... that would get more viewers than Pacman.

Crap.. I always forget about AAA. I need to set a Tivo for this...

JaytheGamefan

08-12-2007, 09:04 PM

That Angle pic rules - it's a shame it just shows how much better the faux-IWGP belt looks compared to the TNA belt.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 09:12 PM

faux IWGP? It's diff'rnt?

Demolition Man

08-12-2007, 09:24 PM

Amazing opening match on the TNA PPV in the three way between Motor Machine Guns vs XXX vs Dutt/Lethel.

OMFG RAVEN!!! RAVEN!!! RAVEN!!! YES RAVEN IS BACK ON TNA PPV!!!! YES RAVEN!!!! RAVEN!!!!!!!

IAmTheCheapestGamer

08-12-2007, 09:25 PM

<shakes head> I don't know how I was so into this for a long while. I went to the Nitro show when they were here(got floor tix n saw Jeff Jarrett's guitar go by n watched most of the show on the jumbotron) and I WAS tempted to go to the Raw show(where McMahons limo blew up) just recently, but for the amount I watch wrestling these days it wasn't worth it.

Oh and btw....they blew the limo up a night or two before and did a craptastic job of editing the video cause if you notice about 20-30 seconds after it first blows up many of the side panels are scorched already.

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 09:26 PM

trust me... ill have those too.

i already got survivor series tix as well

Lucky.

I can only blow my money load on the WM tickets. :lol:

That Angle pic rules - it's a shame it just shows how much better the faux-IWGP belt looks compared to the TNA belt.

Weird thing was, he only had the TNA belt with him (or at least in the open) at the signing.

Demolition Man

08-12-2007, 09:31 PM

:cry:

Raven lost.

It was his best in ring work in a LONG time however.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 09:31 PM

OMFG RAVEN!!! RAVEN!!! RAVEN!!! YES RAVEN IS BACK ON TNA PPV!!!! YES RAVEN!!!! RAVEN!!!!!!!

He was just on TV three days ago, hombre. It's not like it's Y2J or RVD debuting.

;)

I'm curious to see how Dustin Rhodes turns out. I like the "psychotic/codependent" character they're doing with him (all the buildup except the "you stole my spot" talk w/ Chris Harris) - nevertheless, I fear another "Se7en" moment happening.

Demolition Man

08-12-2007, 09:35 PM

He was just on TV three days ago, hombre. It's not like it's Y2J or RVD debuting.

;)

:lol:

I just had to bring back some memories of my Raven markout days. Besides it seems like forever since Raven has had a match on a TNA PPV.

I'm curious to see how Dustin Rhodes turns out. I like the "psychotic/codependent" character they're doing with him (all the buildup except the "you stole my spot" talk w/ Chris Harris) - nevertheless, I fear another "Se7en" moment happening.

Hopefully that is not the case. However I got a bad bad bad feeling about this.

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 09:39 PM

:cry:

Raven lost.

It was his best in ring work in a LONG time however.

Is he still fat or has he gotten back into ring shape?

Also anybody know if a stream of this is going on anywhere?

Brak

08-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Is he still fat or has he gotten back into ring shape?

Also anybody know if a stream of this is going on anywhere?
He's in shape, considering he has a swollen thyroid.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 09:47 PM

Is he still fat or has he gotten back into ring shape?

He looked somewhere between A and B on Impact. At the very least, he went back tot the jean shorts and leather jacket look. I understand the idea of the Raven character, but still am a sucker for the "classics."

Sporadic

08-12-2007, 09:53 PM

He's in shape, considering he has a swollen thyroid.

Ah, I didn't know he had a condition.

---------

YES! I found a stream! :applause:

CouRageouS

08-12-2007, 09:53 PM

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7526/kurtyu5.jpg
His eyes.. just scary.

Note that he's wearing an Affliction shirt. I wonder if he's going to try and get them to sponsor him if he ever makes a run at MMA.

DJSteel

08-12-2007, 10:01 PM

i was a huge fan of the flock back in wcw...then they made Raven a spoiled rich kid and basically ripped apart his whole character..i've been watching TNA for a couple of months wondering what happened to him.. I'd like to see him more..

JaytheGamefan

08-12-2007, 10:35 PM

mykevermin, the belt Angle has isn't the true IWGP title right now - it WAS the belt, but Lesnar refused to job, so he took it, and then lost it to Kurt at the IGF debut show. On 9/8, Angle-Lesnar is planned again for the belt, which would require Kurt to fly back right after the show to do the TNA PPV. It also really minimizes the chances that Joe's winning tonight, as the "IWGP" title is part of the main event title match.

Some WOL news - Killings is back with TNA, and the reason that Rick Steiner lost in that match at Slammiversary was because Animal wouldn't job after being told that he wouldn't have to, which is how they got him to agree to come to that show.

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 11:45 PM

http://www.mavtv.com/pages/public_watch.asp

I was reading about how our national roller derby association (which we recently were accepted into) signed a contract to televise the east coast tourney and national tourney on a channel called Mav TV. I'd never heard of it, but it seems like a Spike TV for even bigger meatheads kinda channel.

At any rate, they do show NWA wrestling on it, which is admittedly pretty cool. Good quality videos, and the production seems to have taken its style 10% from the old Mid-South/Jim Crockett-era NWA. The set looks like the old set, one of the announcers is clearly glomming Gordon Solie's style (not a bad thing at all, even if he isn't the master of the "suplee"). Pretty neat stuff, IMO, and worth checking out. I'm curious how up-to-date the free programming they're showing is (the first show started off w/ Adam Pearce talking about the NWA Heritage Title, but since they recently reclaimed the NWA Heavyweight and World Tag Titles, I would imagine they'd be pushing those is the show was recent).

EDIT: Interesting facts about Animal, Jay. I glimpsed over a war of words he and Heidenreich have been having online recently. I can't say I ever liked Heidenreich, let alone the blasphemy of making him an LOD guy; but, the more I read about it, the more he comes off looking like a sap, and Animal looks like one grade-A asshole. Him jobbing doesn't refute that either.

Killings being back, IMO, introduces a small modicum of likelihood that Konnan may return at some point.

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 11:52 PM

the steiners match was awesome..

and the punisher came out to trytan's old song.... ironically everyone thought test was going to be trytan

mykevermin

08-12-2007, 11:56 PM

Trytan. If you've been watching the OVW shows, Trytan is the guy in the Mankind-lookin' mask going by "Jacob Duncan" these days. A TALL-TALL-TALL mofo in person, but he's got a funny shaped head. Wasn't he TNA red shirt security back in the days of masturbating midgets?

Brak

08-12-2007, 11:59 PM

He looked somewhere between A and B on Impact. At the very least, he went back tot the jean shorts and leather jacket look. I understand the idea of the Raven character, but still am a sucker for the "classics."
Truth be told, we never saw anything like Raven in professional wrestling -- his look was truly one of a kind.

guyver2077

08-12-2007, 11:59 PM

he was that glacier looking guy... they were hyping him up and when he debuted he sucked ass

his song was bad ass though.. and it looks like test is using it now

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 12:09 AM

All I remember about Trytan was his horrible F5 being called a T3, and a Monty Brown promo on him focusing on Trytan going home to visit Mork from Ork. Damn I miss those great, completely insane, Monty Brown promos.

guyver2077

08-13-2007, 02:11 AM

alright... well i went the ebay route..

stayed up late to guarantee my ticket.. got a similar ticket for 172.. section 24

im glad i was able to avoid paying more than 200...and having to pay cash up front. im going to email the craigslist guy now and tell him my flight got cancelled or something..

guyver2077

08-13-2007, 03:12 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070813/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_pacman_wrestling

PhrostByte

08-13-2007, 11:04 AM

Decent PPV all around... somewhat of an overabundance of heel wins though...

It's a shame how much of a chump they're making Joe out to be. Sure, he went down dirty but it's starting to seem like they don't have faith in him as a HW champion. A shame really... hopefully this means that the X-Division will get the spotlight again but even that's doubtful. :\

mykevermin

08-13-2007, 11:07 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070813/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_pacman_wrestling

That article has a lot of words in quotes. Good to see the AP feels the need to use grammar to inform readers that pro wrestling is fake. :lol:

OnyxPrimal

08-13-2007, 11:35 AM

http://www.mavtv.com/pages/public_watch.asp

I noticed 2 other wrestling shows on there as well: Adrenaline Unleased Pro Wrestling Surge (whew... quite the mouth full) and XCW out of Texas. I'd also like to point out that the Wrestling Channel button/picture on the site is clearly a WWE picture showing Umaga vs someone else. :)

benjamouth

08-13-2007, 12:48 PM

WWE has come to terms on the release of Sylvain Grenier as of today. We wish Sylvain the best in all future endeavors.

Au Revoir Sylvain.

mykevermin

08-13-2007, 12:49 PM

'bout fuckin' time.

Halo05

08-13-2007, 12:55 PM

Pat Patterson is crying in his Wheaties right about now.

pitfallharry219

08-13-2007, 01:08 PM

Pat Patterson is crying in his Wheaties right about now.

Pat Patterson doesn't eat Wheaties. He eats Grape Nuts. :lol:

mykevermin

08-13-2007, 02:42 PM

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=139&art_id=vn20070813095223368C181623

I didn't know that Booker T's PWA promotion had a satellite promotion in South Africa. Here's the first guy to get a WWE developmental as a result. Looks a bit like Viscera from the one face shot, though he's under 300 pounds.

Brak

08-13-2007, 02:45 PM

Sylvain was on SmackDown!, last week, wasn't he?

tangytangerine

08-13-2007, 02:52 PM

Sylvain was on SmackDown!, last week, wasn't he?

Yep, but he jobbed to Kane. It was pretty much decided last week he was going to be canned. They pulled his "manager" from his dark matches, Maryse, away and she's basically in storyline limbo right now.

motorkill

08-13-2007, 03:27 PM

Brian "Crush'' Adams passes away

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/brianadamspasses1

Purple Flames

08-13-2007, 03:40 PM

And another one bites the dust before the age of 45 :cry:

RIP

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 03:41 PM

Damn. I enjoyed him as 'Kona' Crush and in Kronik. Hopefully his passing doesn't re-ignite the media frenzy surrounding wrestling, as there's a good chance it was steroid-related.

tangytangerine

08-13-2007, 03:56 PM

Hopefully his passing doesn't re-ignite the media frenzy surrounding wrestling, as there's a good chance it was steroid-related.

If it's roid related, you know the news media will jump on it and blame WWE somehow. Even though he hasn't worked for them for 6 years.

DJSteel

08-13-2007, 04:13 PM

If it's roid related, you know the news media will jump on it and blame WWE somehow. Even though he hasn't worked for them for 6 years.

how would that diminish the fact that he used steroids??

tangytangerine

08-13-2007, 04:35 PM

how would that diminish the fact that he used steroids??

It wouldn't. I'm just saying like Jay was saying that if the death was somehow roid related, the news media will probably jump on it and place the blame on someone.

Sporadic

08-13-2007, 04:43 PM

Brian "Crush'' Adams passes away

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/brianadamspasses1

:cry:

Hopefully he's crushing tinker toy cans in Heaven.

mykevermin

08-13-2007, 04:55 PM

OnyxPrimal

08-13-2007, 05:20 PM

IIRC, Adams was fired from WWE (during his DOA/NOD days?) for having steroids mailed to his house while he was under FBI surveillance. :lol: He was fired for steroids before monitoring for steroids was even cool.

I'd say it's sad, but at this point, whatever. No amount of dead wrestlers or congressional investigations is going to change the lack of concern for WWE or TNA for their talent, during and after their career tenures. I'm hardened to any more wrestler deaths anymore.

What was Adams' last involvement in wrestling? I remember the Kronik debacle in the WWF (ever see their match against Undertaker/Kane at Unforgiven? Wow. No wonder they were fired the next day!), but don't recall seeing Adams (or Clarke) after that.

They were both asked to report to OVW I think. Adams said "no way" Clarke eventually reported to Hartland before being released. Adams tried to train as Boxer got knocked the fuck out. He and clarke were both injured on a show in Japan and neither wrestle anymore. They would still do signings as Kronik from time to time as I recall.

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 05:22 PM

He last worked some WWA and AJPW shows while teaming with Clarke, and he wasn't only busted for steroids, but a large amount of weapons, which the media could also latch onto as proof of wrestlers having violent pasts.

mykevermin

08-13-2007, 05:46 PM

They were both asked to report to OVW I think. Adams said "no way" Clarke eventually reported to Hartland before being released. Adams tried to train as Boxer got knocked the fuck out. He and clarke were both injured on a show in Japan and neither wrestle anymore. They would still do signings as Kronik from time to time as I recall.

Since I was going to HWA shows weekly at that time, I did see Adams once or twice there (and even managed a dirty look when he heard me yell "look where you end up when you don't sell!" - I was a shit-ass lil' smark back then). Clarke never appeared in HWA.

evilmax17

08-13-2007, 06:13 PM

The WWF Wrestlefest arcade game now contains 5 dead wrestlers.

Hulk Hogan
Ultimate Warrior
Mr. Perfect
Earthquake
Ted DiBiase
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Big Boss Man
Sgt. Slaughter
Smash (Demolition)
Crush (Demolition)
Hawk (Legion of Doom)
Animal (Legion of Doom)

If one more dies, then half of the roster will be dead. This game, by the way, was released in 1991.

Zenithian Legend

08-13-2007, 06:30 PM

Well, that sucks. I swear I had a weird feeling before I opened the wrestling topic, that there'd be bad news inside. Sure enough, another wrestling-related passing. These are becoming far too common.

I don't like tacking on tributes to topics already in progress. So, we'll either wait until this finishes and then do a tribute topic or temporarily lock this and then do the tribute topic and come back to this.

I'd just assume finish this as we're already on page 8 of 10 (using the 50 post per page format).

Halo05

08-13-2007, 06:32 PM

That game was awesome, I remember being so stoked back in the day when Raine could finally emulate Wrestlefest. Jake Roberts and Mr. Perfect were my team.

Zenithian Legend

08-13-2007, 06:35 PM

What was Adams' last involvement in wrestling? I remember the Kronik debacle in the WWF (ever see their match against Undertaker/Kane at Unforgiven? Wow. No wonder they were fired the next day!), but don't recall seeing Adams (or Clarke) after that.

From WWE.com:

Adams wrestled his last match in January 2003, suffering a spinal injury that forced him into retirement.

pitfallharry219

08-13-2007, 07:54 PM

The Adams story is on the front page of Yahoo Sports.

Also, wasn't he working security for Randy Savage in the last couple years?

OnyxPrimal

08-13-2007, 07:56 PM

Since I was going to HWA shows weekly at that time, I did see Adams once or twice there (and even managed a dirty look when he heard me yell "look where you end up when you don't sell!" - I was a shit-ass lil' smark back then). Clarke never appeared in HWA.

I guess I had them backwards. My bad!

From TMZ.com:

The death of former wrestling star Crush has officially been declared an "unexplained incident."

In the incident report filed by the Tampa Police Dept. and obtained by TMZ, former wrestling superstar Brian Adams aka Crush "was found by his wife unconscious in bed not breathing."

According to the cops, Adam's wife dialed 911, but emergency teams could not revive him when they arrived shortly thereafter. Cops also note in their report that "there were no visible signs of injuries."

An autopsy is scheduled for tomorrow.

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 09:09 PM

Brian Adams' death just got covered on Nancy Grace - it looks like the media coverage of wrestling is back, and I'd expect it to continue if/when they found out about his steroid and weapon-filled past.

They're covering it again, with Eben Brown talking about his history with Demolition, stating that his death was a surprise. The stand-in host asks if there were other calls to the house, which isn't know, Brown talks about his drug and weapons charge in '94, and stated that his stun gun charge was dropped. According to Eben, Adams was holding steroids and a stun gun, and he was arrested, but isn't sure if he served jail time, and isn't sure what charge was dropped. "Dave Metzler" is on talking about why wrestlers go to Florida, citing the lack of sales tax as a major reason, and stating that some were scared off due to hurricanes, and the Tampa airport is convenient to fly out of. The autopsy will be done tomorrow.

It is expected that they'll look for steroids and drugs in his blood, body, and hair during it. Marc Mero is on, and is asked what kind of person he was - he was a good person who loved practical jokes, and they were in talks to do something business-related a couple of weeks ago. Adams is #27 on Mero's list of people who have died that he's wrestled, and he states that people in war in Iraq don't even know 30 people who have died. He states that there is some industry responsibility, as Benoit was able to get 10 months of steroids and still pass WWE's test. Mero doesn't want to state what he thinks happened to Adams, but implies that it's due to steroids, then shills his program and its website.

Dave's asked if WWE will do anything for Adams, and he says that at most, they'll probably just do a picture at the beginning of the show, but isn't sure. Mero says that Vince just views wrestling as entertainment, and says that he looks forward to talking in front of Congress, and that wrestling needs to be regulated since wrestling hasn't policed itself very well. He says that steroids aren't used backstage, and that there's a code of silence about it. Mero talks about mark doctors, and says that there are probably hundreds of them, and he saw docs just write prescriptions out for guys in the back as if they were a joke. The host talks about wrestlers doing 200 days, and Mero says that he did 250 dates a year, and once again talks about guys working the day after wrestling Super Bowl. He says that wrestling is physically and mentally taxing, and that steroids are used to help guys recover quickly, since guys can't take time off to heal from surgeries. Mero's asked about wrestlers being given psychological help, and he says he isn't sure, but there is a wellness program. A psychologist is on stating that wrestlers are being abused by the system, as the system is making money, while the wrestlers are dying.

Zenithian Legend

08-13-2007, 09:13 PM

Pat Patterson is crying in his Wheaties right about now.

Na, he's still got the Miz.

Scorch

08-13-2007, 09:30 PM

*sigh*

He rocked in Rage in the Cage. I still have that game. I love that game.

GuilewasNK

08-13-2007, 10:00 PM

There sure is one hell of a roster in the afterlife, huh?

I don't know about you guys, but I just don't have much energy to write the same thing over and over about all these wrestling personlaites who are dying young. These deaths are beyond absurd.

Brak

08-13-2007, 10:06 PM

Please don't be Kennedy...

GuilewasNK

08-13-2007, 10:08 PM

Vince McMahon is Sexual Chocolate's daddy!

benjamouth

08-13-2007, 10:09 PM

Please don't be Kennedy...

I think it's Ric Flair.

evilmax17

08-13-2007, 10:10 PM

Mero
UGH!

monkeydeew

08-13-2007, 10:15 PM

is hhh really gonna come back as a face? how long till he whoops ric flairs ass again lol

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 10:17 PM

*sigh*

He rocked in Rage in the Cage. I still have that game. I love that game.
As do I - It was the main reason why I bought the Sega CD. I loved the pre-match promos and finisher videos in that game.

HHH HAS to come back as a face since people will cheer him no matter what - he'll be a heel in due time. Boring Raw so far, although I dug the standing rolling fireman's carry finishing the match.

benjamouth

08-13-2007, 10:47 PM

Come on Robbie you've got a chan....................aw jeez.

Matt Young

08-13-2007, 10:52 PM

This Raw has been very entertaining.

Brak

08-13-2007, 10:54 PM

WWE Idol? Haven't seen that on TNA before.

GuilewasNK

08-13-2007, 11:01 PM

Lord. :lol:

Brak

08-13-2007, 11:02 PM

BRUTAL.

Matt Young

08-13-2007, 11:03 PM

Best Raw ever.

Sporadic

08-13-2007, 11:05 PM

Santino is a fantastic heel.

Matt Young

08-13-2007, 11:06 PM

Santino is a fantastic heel.

Yeah... He went from worst face ever to a very good heel.

Also, I wanted to say- Sporadic, you look completely different from what I expected.

Brak

08-13-2007, 11:07 PM

Thank God they made Santino a heel.

JaytheGamefan

08-13-2007, 11:12 PM

Santino as a slimy piece of shit is fantastic. Thank God WWE turned him.

Sporadic

08-13-2007, 11:27 PM

Yeah... He went from worst face ever to a very good heel.

Also, I wanted to say- Sporadic, you look completely different from what I expected.

Yeah, I'm hoboing it up on my time off.

Always wanted long hair growing up, so I decided to grow it out. Was kind of forced to grow out the beard once the hair got to a certain length. Can't grow one worth a damn but eh, you only live once and it's easier than going to the barber.

CaseyRyback

08-13-2007, 11:27 PM

So HHH doesn't even have the decency to show up to MSG? Cut me a fucking break.

Purple Flames

08-13-2007, 11:29 PM

I love how Booker's fake British accent went right out the window during that segment.

CaseyRyback

08-13-2007, 11:59 PM

A billion Orton promos tonight and he couldn't even get a win tonight? Gimme a fucking break.

Chronis

08-14-2007, 12:10 AM

:O I didn't know we had a wrestling topic!

....DAMN!

Zenithian Legend

08-14-2007, 12:34 AM

A billion Orton promos tonight and he couldn't even get a win tonight? Gimme a fucking break.

Seriously... makes no sense at all. I loved how the crowd just shit on Cena tonight. And I hope they shit on HHH next time he comes to the Garden too, for no showing tonight. What's the point? I'm not buying Summerslam just to see HHH's dumbass comeback and bury Booker T. I liked how Booker dropped his accent repeatedly tonight when Booker was getting enraged, hopefully his character continues to do that and it wasn't unintentional.

Anyway, on the whole not a terrible Raw, but for an MSG Raw, that was pathetic.

Here's a non-spoiler match listing for SNME:

Matt Hardy vs Evander Holyfield in a boxing match... I wish I was making this up
Finlay & Khali vs Batista & Kane
Carlito vs Cena... I wish I was making this up too
Big Vis & John Morrison vs CM Punk & Boogeyman... another WTF? match
Vince segment with Coach about who the child is. I'll save you all the time, they don't reveal anything yet of course, because this show is taped, and it's WWE.

JaytheGamefan

08-14-2007, 01:23 AM

I'm glad you're not making Hardy-Holyfield up, because that sounds AWESOME, especially with Buffer doing intros. Hopefully he doesn't screw up MVP's name.

guyver2077

08-14-2007, 01:29 AM

that holyfield thing was awesome.. main event ruled.. especially the ending

i had fun even though raw itself was kinda blah... i got tired of seeing cena so many fucking times

guyver2077

08-14-2007, 02:02 AM

catch it while it lasts... and it was great to see dlo in the dark match

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TeBNh8KNaGM

Sporadic

08-14-2007, 02:16 AM

I hope this mean that Matt Hardy is the next Bart Gunn (aka he gets his ass beat and then disappears off the face of the planet)

D_Icon

08-14-2007, 11:04 AM

catch it while it lasts... and it was great to see dlo in the dark match

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TeBNh8KNaGM

Who did D'Lo fight?

Zen Davis

08-14-2007, 12:37 PM

"Look at that outfit. It looks like Times Square is missing... how do you say... a filthy prostitute."

GOLD!

guyver2077

08-14-2007, 03:41 PM

Who did D'Lo fight?

some guy there.. no one big.. o'reilly or something

tangytangerine

08-14-2007, 04:03 PM

WWE Idol?

Caught part of this and the very end of Raw. Loved the comment Regal said about Jillan's singing being a abortion. WTF was with Foley being a judge?

Reading the results has me asking one thing, where was Shane?

IAmTheCheapestGamer

08-14-2007, 04:18 PM

That game was awesome, I remember being so stoked back in the day when Raine could finally emulate Wrestlefest. Jake Roberts and Mr. Perfect were my team.

I used to prefer using the team of DiBiase and Jake The Snake, since I'd do repeated power slams and DDTs on my opponents just to toy with them before slapping on the Million Dollar Dream and finishing the match.

Best WWF game of that same era on the home consoles though(imo) had to be WWF Royal Rumble for Genesis. I'd enter the Rumble @ #1 and win it all, since I used the same method to eliminate everyone. The method? Hiptoss over the top rope after flinging my opponent into the ropes on the opposite side of the ring.

Halo05

08-14-2007, 04:27 PM

I used to prefer using the team of DiBiase and Jake The Snake, since I'd do repeated power slams and DDTs on my opponents just to toy with them before slapping on the Million Dollar Dream and finishing the match.

Best WWF game of that same era on the home consoles though(imo) had to be WWF Royal Rumble for Genesis. I'd enter the Rumble @ #1 and win it all, since I used the same method to eliminate everyone. The method? Hiptoss over the top rope after flinging my opponent into the ropes on the opposite side of the ring.

I had the SNES Royal Rumble. My friend and I would cooperate and see how fast we could win the Rumble. Our record was very quick as he (as Shawn Michaels) would stand on one side of the ring while I (Ric Flair woo!) stood on the other. As the guys entered he'd whip them to me while I'd hiptoss them out my side of the ring. Finally, after everyone was gone, he'd run at me and I'd toss him out to finish the match.

I wish I still had our times written down but that paper vanished probably well over ten years ago. I think our best was something like 1:17 but I'm not positive.

Matt Young

08-14-2007, 04:31 PM

some guy there.. no one big.. o'reilly or something

Cassidy O'Reilly? Former TNA wrestler and current WWE developmental talent?

SIUfan

08-14-2007, 04:32 PM

I used to prefer using the team of DiBiase and Jake The Snake, since I'd do repeated power slams and DDTs on my opponents just to toy with them before slapping on the Million Dollar Dream and finishing the match.

Best WWF game of that same era on the home consoles though(imo) had to be WWF Royal Rumble for Genesis. I'd enter the Rumble @ #1 and win it all, since I used the same method to eliminate everyone. The method? Hiptoss over the top rope after flinging my opponent into the ropes on the opposite side of the ring.

Same method here, never fails. It was a lot quicker than wearing your opponent down and then throwing him over. the only thing thatsucked about that game was the 2 player grapple mode. No one ever won lol, the grapples could go on forever in theory, or until someones fingers got tired and said shaq fu it.

Genocidal

08-14-2007, 05:09 PM

Cassidy O'Reilly? Former TNA wrestler and current WWE developmental talent?Most like Ryan "Roughhouse" O'Reilly, since I think he's been doing dark matches for a while. Cassidy O'Reilly is going under the name Cassidy James now in OVW, iirc.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/r/ryan-oreilly.html

Sporadic

08-14-2007, 06:20 PM

My local fox station did a piece on Brian Adams.

They compared him to Chris Benoit (first Chris Benoit and now wrestling fans mourn the second loss in two months Brian "Crush" Adams), made it sound like he was still with the WWE until the very end of the piece (Crush last worked for WWF back in 2001), and interviewed "WWE superstar" Vito

DJSteel

08-14-2007, 06:23 PM

I used to use the Gameshark glitch to get Wrath in WcW vs nWo revenge.. and created KroniK... held the tag team belts for a while.. btw No Mercy is the best Wrestling game on the consoles ever...

Zenithian Legend

08-14-2007, 06:27 PM

Demolition Man

08-14-2007, 07:35 PM

catch it while it lasts... and it was great to see dlo in the dark match

:pray:

I hope this means D'Lo is coming back.

JaytheGamefan

08-14-2007, 09:41 PM

http://www.house.gov/stearns/PressReleases/PR2007Releases/pr-070808-Steroids.html

Congress will be investigating TNA and the NWA, as well as WWE. ROH hasn't been contacted, but I'd expect them to be, given that they're bigger than the NWA at this point.

Brak

08-14-2007, 09:57 PM

mykevermin

08-14-2007, 10:49 PM

I have to say the Pacman story is getting tons of airtime over at ESPN. They're mostly having a laugh at his expense, but it is getting them a great deal of publicity that they desire. I still think it's silly, and the next two weeks of spoilers make the program look totally forgettable, but it may work for them. A small decline in ratings one week into the Pacman angle is an indicator of nothing, IMO. You can't claim smart marks are tuning out TNA; one thing I firmly believe is that smart marks will consistently watch it, no matter how bad it is.

evanft

08-14-2007, 11:14 PM

Demolition Man

08-14-2007, 11:56 PM

You can't claim smart marks are tuning out TNA; one thing I firmly believe is that smart marks will consistently watch it, no matter how bad it is.

I am guilty as charged on still tuning in. Even if I think this is one bonefide dumb idea that has Vince Russo's fingerprints all over it (even tho its JJ himself who did this).

guyver2077

08-14-2007, 11:57 PM

Most like Ryan "Roughhouse" O'Reilly, since I think he's been doing dark matches for a while. Cassidy O'Reilly is going under the name Cassidy James now in OVW, iirc.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/r/ryan-oreilly.html

yes i believe so... i know who cassidey riley is and it wasnt him

mykevermin

08-15-2007, 12:07 AM

I am guilty as charged on still tuning in. Even if I think this is one bonefide dumb idea that has Vince Russo's fingerprints all over it (even tho its JJ himself who did this).

I don't mean TNA. I mean *wrestling* in general. We can all be found close to our TVs on Monday nights, too.

Demolition Man

08-15-2007, 12:15 AM

I don't mean TNA. I mean *wrestling* in general. We can all be found close to our TVs on Monday nights, too.

We as in you and the mouse in your pocket?

*rimshot*

Okay to be serious the last time I watched RAW in full was the Chris Benoit tribute show. I haven't bothered to tune in since. Mostly because the current product does nothing for me.

TNA isn't much better tho. I'm debating about even watching this week since going by the spoilers the next two weeks look weak (plus no MLS game on ESPN 2 doesn't help). This weak product is not the thing TNA needs to be putting out there right now.

Oh well...... I can bitch all I want but it won't change a damn thing.

xcoax

08-15-2007, 03:25 AM

We

Okay to be serious the last time I watched RAW in full was the Chris Benoit tribute show. I haven't bothered to tune in since. Mostly because the current product does nothing for me.

Oh well...... I can bitch all I want but it won't change a damn thing.

i completely agree. the last time i watched a full episode of RAW was back when DX was around. ever since then everything has just looked so predictable and fake to me. i mean, orton can end anyone's career with a single knee to the head... whats up with that?

i haven't even watched smackdown in at least two years. about the only thing that'll still hold my interest is ECW. they haven't really been too predictable for me at least, but admitedly that could be because they don't even know where they're going with this stuff half the time if you ask me.

PhrostByte

08-15-2007, 04:01 AM

I don't mean TNA. I mean *wrestling* in general. We can all be found close to our TVs on Monday nights, too.

I haven't watched WWE in over a month... but I've kept up with TNA despite the recent decline in quality. :\

Demolition Man

08-15-2007, 04:10 AM

I haven't watched WWE in over a month... but I've kept up with TNA despite the recent decline in quality. :\

I have a feeling that we are going to see a major change in creative once they get that two hour deal secured rather if its with Spike TV or Fox. Seems like every time TNA has something major like this happen is when we see a change in who's in charge of booking/creative.

Punk_Raven

08-15-2007, 09:35 AM

Yeah, especially that " if it didn't happen on Spike, it didn't happen" rule.

tangytangerine

08-15-2007, 02:44 PM

PhrostByte

08-15-2007, 03:44 PM

OnyxPrimal

08-15-2007, 07:28 PM

Am I the only one that thinks No Surrender will be a absolute disaster?

Only becauseAngle has to defend all 3 TNA titles on the same night. I bet that some of the unused talent on the roster is getting tired of the crap.

No. My guess is it works 1 of 2 ways... he takes a count out in the tag match, get DQed in the X division match, and then retains the World Title. Or they make him Superman and he wins every match. I like Angle, I do, But this booking is fucked and we all know it. Angle either looks like a genius in keeping all the gold or he looks like God. I don't think he'll "lay down" for anyone or why did he keep it all in the 1st place... then again this is TNA booking..

JaytheGamefan

08-15-2007, 07:39 PM

Wednesday WO site news update - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20455

www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/fayette/stories/2007/08/14/ has a piece on the fight over the Benoit estate, Brian Adams' death was the lead story on Yahoo news yesterday and was mentioned on KISS' site as well. Angle is trying to broker a deal to get Lesnar into TNA - Dixie and Brock have been in talks. Jerry Lynn, Matt Bentley, Brother Runt, the Damaja, and Doug Basham have been release by TNA, although Bentley will be used on a per-appearance deal.

.....

Runt and Bentley have been non-factors for a long time, and I'm sad that Doug's gone, as he's incredibly talented and could have been a good teacher for the wrestlers there, if not a top-level tag team talent. I'd expect more cuts to be forthcoming since they've got to trim even more fat to pay for Jones' contract, and if they want Lesnar, they'll have to let even more guys go.

Brock coming in wouldn't surprise me - if he's willing to do an IGF show in Japan for Kurt, he's probably willing to fly to Orlando once every two weeks for him. He's not what he once was in the ring, but he's still fairly good, and TNA's light travel schedule would be perfect for him, as WWE's heavy one drove him nuts.

TNA definitely does need to cut guys, as their roster is unbelievably bloated and under-used given that they only have a one hour show to really showcase them, but I think they're cutting the wrong folks here. Not so much with Bentley (a virtual non-factor for a long time) and Hyson, who did nothing in TNA, and did nothing on the indy scene before it, but I think they're making a mistake with Lynn and Basham, as they're each very good worker who could actually teach the wrestlers how to incorporate more psychology into their matches. In Lynn's case, he was an expert at carrying an average worker to a great match and I hope TNA just nixed his wrestling contract and not his road agent one, as he's been shown to be a fantastic teacher to the wrestlers.

I'd expect So Cal Val to be an upcoming release, as she does absolutely nothing for TNA other than give them knockout photos for their site and provide upskirt camera shots every now and then. Johnny Devine's another guy who's doing nothing, so I could see him being fired soon. Petey's a similar situation, although maybe they'll be okay due to their past with D'Amore. Roxy's someone who they should fire, and the fact that she presently has a job with TNA while Jerry Lynn and Doug Basham don't is incredibly bothersome.

GuilewasNK

08-15-2007, 08:13 PM

Speaking of guys doing nothing, why is Kevin Nash still there?

Matt Young

08-15-2007, 08:18 PM

No. My guess is it works 1 of 2 ways... he takes a count out in the tag match, get DQed in the X division match, and then retains the World Title. Or they make him Superman and he wins every match. I like Angle, I do, But this booking is fucked and we all know it. Angle either looks like a genius in keeping all the gold or he looks like God. I don't think he'll "lay down" for anyone or why did he keep it all in the 1st place... then again this is TNA booking..

That would not be possible. In TNA, titles change hands by disqualification and countout.

Demolition Man

08-15-2007, 08:34 PM

I wouldn't cut Roxy honestly. She's just been given a really bad gimmick. At least take her off of TV for a bit and give her a new gimmick that doesn't suck.

If I were to cut people from TNA I would cut BJ and Kip James and Bob Backlund. Then fix things with Konnan, take care of Sonjay Dutt's issues, etc. And drop this Pacman Jones shit ASAP. Use that money towards bringing in fresh talent for the X Division and make it a FOCAS point when TNA goes two hours. I would especially start raiding ROH for talent like Bryan Danielson, the Briscoes, etc. And I certainly would NOT (repeat NOT) give them any Russo like gimmick.

God.... maybe I need to walk right into TNA HQ and tell them all this. Along with bringing in Myke to have him help book. We'd make TNA far better (and far more popular) in a hurry that is for sure.

DJSteel

08-15-2007, 08:42 PM

i agree with your synopsis Demo...although at this point I'm not sure about Konnan...I'd personally like to see more X division guys.. hell even some more of the former AMW...

Brak

08-15-2007, 09:00 PM

Even though I secretly call Senshi "The Bore-ior" (I like his ring work, but there's something about him that I don't like), I have to say that the double-stomp spot he did at Hard Justice was hot fiya.

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 09:01 PM

Speaking of guys doing nothing, why is Kevin Nash still there?

hes the comic relief..and no.. they better not cut him..

angle and nash tag team champs ftw

Brak

08-15-2007, 09:03 PM

Oh, and as for cutting: Cut VKM.

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 09:05 PM

wtf..

so they released basham already? and bentley

also i was so jealous of the guy next to me (also the guy i bought the ticket from)

he had this canon rebel xt camera... that shit took great pictures... every damn camera ive had (all sony) always take blurry shots in arenas..

fuck sony

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 09:54 PM

heres a quick shot of dlo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1XkL_JqM

heres another snme video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_vTEkkJOTCY

Sporadic

08-15-2007, 10:00 PM

heres a quick shot of dlo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1XkL_JqM

I'm not looking at the real deal now :cry: whoop

somebody kick that sorry song out into the street

Brak

08-15-2007, 10:03 PM

I just saw the Black Reign costume... Kinda sweet. :o

Foo228

08-15-2007, 10:05 PM

so robbie of the highlanders is no more?

CWE Commissioner J. Jody Jenkins is proud to announce that CWE has won a 13 month battle with World Wrestling Entertainment to retain the Ontario Championship. WWE Superstar, Robbie McAllister was last to hold the Ontario Championship before he was signed by World Wrestling Entertainment. While WWE wished to incorporate the title into their weekly television broadcast of â€œMonday Night Raw,â€ the CWE board of directors fought to keep the Ontario Championship within a CWE ring. Late Tuesday evening, CWEAction.com learned that the Ontario Championship has been successfully shipped home to the CWE Offices. Commissioner Jenkins has confirmed that a new Ontario Champion will be crowned at CWE Boiling Point on August 25. The vacant title will be suspended over 20 feet above the ring in one of wrestlingâ€™s most dangerous matches, The Ladder Match.

i just want tna to give more people chances and not have feuds take forever...

Mr. Beef

08-15-2007, 10:07 PM

heres a quick shot of dlo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1XkL_JqM

heres another snme video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_vTEkkJOTCYAwesome. I was wondering what happened to him. Is it true that he wrestled in japan for a bit?

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 10:15 PM

I'm not looking at the real deal now :cry: whoop

somebody kick that sorry song out into the street

that song played though when he won the match.. that song ruled.. dlo looked great

GuilewasNK

08-15-2007, 10:32 PM

hes the comic relief..and no.. they better not cut him..

He isn't that funny IMO.

But you do get an A+ for the D'Lo vid. :)

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 10:38 PM

Today, the wait is a bit easier. THQ has announced the next seven superstars for this year's game: Elijah Burke, Carlito, CM Punk, the Innovator of Violence Tommy Dreamer, the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels, the Nature Boy Ric Flair and Mr. Kennedy … Kennedy!

yes for burke,dreamer, and punk

guyver2077

08-15-2007, 11:06 PM

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Suspended Titans (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67047) cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones is not expected to play in the NFL this season, so he keeps looking for new ways to stay busy.

First there was wrestling, now it's hip-hop.
His National Street League Records, based in Atlanta, announced Wednesday that Jones will team with producer Spoaty in a duo called Posterboyz with their first single "Let it Shine" being released Aug. 27. The song talks about big money, cars and jewelry.
This latest venture might cause more problems for Jones with the National Football League. Officials are looking into whether or not the record label's name, National Street League Records, infringes on the league's trademark, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.
Jones has been suspended from the NFL for the 2007 season for violating the league's personal conduct policy by being arrested six times. Police records for various incidents in Tennessee and Georgia show five different arrests for the former first-round draft pick.
His sixth arrest came in June when he was booked by Las Vegas police in the most serious case. He is under indictment there on two felony counts of coercion stemming from a February fight at a strip club that left a bouncer, a former wrestler himself, paralyzed. A felony obstruction of an officer charge was postponed until this fall in Georgia, and misdemeanor charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct were revived in July and postponed until January.

Jones also has signed a contract with Total Nonstop Action Wrestling and debuted in a pay-per-view last weekend under a temporary injunction negotiated between the team, TNA and Jones' attorneys to limit his chances of physical injury.

Zenithian Legend

08-15-2007, 11:09 PM

Kennedy!

OnyxPrimal

08-15-2007, 11:59 PM

That would not be possible. In TNA, titles change hands by disqualification and countout.

I forgot about the DQ rule, but seriously... count out? change it to wins by countout and looses the tag tiles by dq Jesus Christ... win a title by countout... that's stupid.. every match should just be a damned foot race to beat the count.

PhrostByte

08-16-2007, 05:35 AM

They fired Lynn huh? I guess a Lynn/RVD rematch isn't looking too bright right now... Don't really give a damn about the rest of the firings, but I do agree with the rest of you guys. They hire Pacman but let all these guys go? Stupid... I can only hope Petey stays... and VKM disappears without notice.

/me waits patiently for either an RVD or Y2J debut.

Scorch

08-16-2007, 05:50 AM

Brak

08-16-2007, 06:14 AM

Why did that fire Lynn? Fuck that...

option.iv

08-16-2007, 08:17 AM

Hey guys. Been watching last couple WWE shows. Luckily my little brother is keeping me updated on the WWE scene. I've also been getting into Dragon Gate wrestling in Japan. The high flying wrestling and technicality is what I love.

As for wrestling games, I've dabbled in some of the Fire Pro wrestling series but I definitely love wcw vs nwo series for n64.

That Kennedy... And I'd love to see the result between Triple H and King Booker. I'd cheer for Booker if he was Booker T. but alas...

edit: btw, at the end of RAW, when John Cena jumped rediculously far from the other corner to tag... Was there some confusion whether or not Umaga was tagged or not? After, I just saw Randy Orton run across to punch Umaga who looked as if he wasn't even fazed. Then RO turns around for no reason then Umaga jumps in and rapes them. What the heck happened? Was it a botch?

tangytangerine

08-16-2007, 01:28 PM

One of the released TNA wrestlers has already commented on the fuck ups at TNA.

Matt Bentley, who's TNA deal expires on 8/20, ripped on the company while appearing on last night's Between the Ropes radio show in Florida.

Bentley described the morale of the TNA roster as poor, saying there are performers upset that they work hard only to have former WWE stars brought into the company and leapfrogging them for a larger spot (javascript:void(0)) on the roster. He commented that names that are "supposed to be big stars" are brought in but then the ratings never rise. Bentley described TNA as a place that used to be fun to work, but now it's changed and instead of being able to go out and work hard in the ring, wrestlers have to deal with gaga segments and things of that nature.

When the Congressional letter to several wrestling (javascript:void(0)) companies was brought up, Bentley said that he was never drug (javascript:void(0)) tested by TNA nor has any other wrestler that he knows of working for the company.

When TNA creative team member Dutch Mantel came up, Bentley blamed him for the Serotonin gimmick not taking off, saying Mantel hated it and wanted nothing to do with it. "That guy needs to be fired. The only way to kick Jeff in the a** is to kick Dutch in the back of the head."

Bentley was also vocally upset about the fact that TNA just informed him he was finished instead of thanking him for his tenure with the company and wishing him well.

They never tested for drugs? That's not going to go well if they report that to congress.

guyver2077

08-16-2007, 01:36 PM

CM Punk, Dreamer and Elijah Burke. AWESOME. Have Cryme Tyme been confirmed?

doubtful but who knows.. usually some tag teams are always missing from the games

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 01:51 PM

I have a feeling that London and Kendrick will not be in the game. Between those two, as well as Nunzio, who else has been with WWE for *years* yet never made it into a WWE video game?

Halo05

08-16-2007, 02:15 PM

pitfallharry219

08-16-2007, 02:18 PM

I have a feeling that London and Kendrick will not be in the game. Between those two, as well as Nunzio, who else has been with WWE for *years* yet never made it into a WWE video game?

London was in SvR 2006.

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 02:31 PM

Thanks for the clarification harry.

Ever since Jeff Hardy showed up on TNA, I felt like WWE guys were getting overpushed simply because they were WWE guys.

I agree with that resentment, simply because every WWE guy gets pushed to the midcard or higher. Tomko, Punisher, VKM, Dudleys, Christian, Black Reign, etc. Some of those guys shouldn't be hired at all (VKM, Reign), while others show why they belong in that spot (Christian, Dudleys). Tomko is a good character and a capable wrestler - he's expendable, sure, but his interaction w/ Christian is great. Punisher hasn't shown me anything yet, and it's too early to declare Matt Morgan or Punisher to be overpushed.

Now, Angle and Lesnar (if that happens) are no-brainers. Angle is where he belongs, while Lesnar, if he comes, belongs at the top.

Now, with the exception of VKM, the WWE guys TNA brings in aren't nobodies. Morgan and Tomko are young and fairly unestablished. It's fair to say, IMO, that neither did much in WWE to be recognized as "WWE guys." They do benefit, OTOH, from their size and build, of course.

Matt Bentley may have room to complain, but you know what? Matt Bentley sucks. He's a poor man's Shawn Michaels in the ring (and that's not a compliment - you put a fat man in a Captain America suit, he's a dickbag, not a weak Cap), he's had 1-2 memorable matches in 5 years' worth of TNA, and he's just a bitter crybaby who will never amount to shit, since the one promotion that would give him the time of day let him go.

Now, if, say, Joe was let go and said the same thing, or Sabin/Shelly, that would be a different story. Matt Betley fails to realize that he never mattered at all, so that's why he never got a shot.

All that said, TNA isn't perfect and its talent isn't perfect. I just read a letter from Bill Behrens to the NWA legends conference attendees, apologizing for the behavior of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and Christian Cage. Evidently they were snobbish assholes to almost everyone in attendance. I like TNA, but you know what? There's nothing to be braggadocios about if all you are is a wrestler in a promotion that can't sell 10,000 PPV buys or increase ratings beyond a 1.0.

guyver2077

08-16-2007, 02:37 PM

guess it would be wishful thiking to want deuce and domino in the game.. i know that wont happen..

gotta hope for thorn and ballz

maybe even mike knox

pitfallharry219

08-16-2007, 02:41 PM

I hope this is the year we finally start seeing roster updates and maybe some other DLC.

PhrostByte

08-16-2007, 02:45 PM

Ever since Jeff Hardy showed up on TNA, I felt like WWE guys were getting overpushed simply because they were WWE guys.

Seeing AJ Styles running around as Christian's lapdog isn't really helping the situation either.

I have no problem with Christian, he's awesome on the mic, he's great in the ring but what did AJ Styles do to get pushed so far down the card? I mean, he's half the reason I still watch wrestling (after randomly buying some TNA DVDs back in 2005).

Agreed 100%. Although the show is still is still fairly enjoyable.. compared to WWE at least, it just isn't what it once was. I don't have a problem with the roster or the spirit, it's the booking/direction that's really been pissing me off lately.

They need to bury some WWE guys just for the hell of it. Yeah Christian and Angle was awesome, but they're pretty much the only ones from WWE that deserve to hang onto the ball. I'd say have AJ go over Christian in (slightly old) teenage rebel fashion and have Joe bury Angle like he was part of the JOB squad... yeah that's the ticket. The only way to bring legitimacy to TNA is to feed off of the current talent's credibility. I thought that was the plan all along.. I thought that was the whole REASON for bringing in WWE guys... but it hasn't happened... instead TNA guys are getting fired. :\ ridiculous

Halo05

08-16-2007, 02:58 PM

I guess my frustration stems from the fact that, unlike WCW in the mid-late 90's. TNA has shown that it can build it's own talent. AMW, Triple X, Amazing Red (before he got hurt), AJ Styles, Abyss, Petey Williams and to a lesser degree, Samoa Joe are more or less, TNA guys. Yes, they generally wrestled other places for at least a little while but they really came into their own within TNA before the exodus of old WCW/WWE wrestlers.

Looking at say, 1996 WCW, all their main guys were either NWA-grown back in the 80's (Sting, Flair, etc.) or WWE veterans (Nash, Hall, Hogan, etc.). Because of WCW's inability to create their own talent during that time period (Glacier, Mortis, etc.), I had no real issues with incoming WWE guys main-eventing with or even above WCW wrestlers.

That being said, watching a short match between Abyss and Tomko (for example) in TNA is still infinitely more entertaining that watching Vince try and figure out who his bastard child is.

tangytangerine

08-16-2007, 03:02 PM

They need to bury some WWE guys just for the hell of it.

I agree with that. Heck, look at Sting lately. For the first few months of 2007, he did nothing but job to Abyss. At least he knows when it's time to bow out and make the next batch of wrestlers look good.

Some of the WWE guys need to realize their time in the spotlight is up and need to make the homegrown talent look good. That's eventually what caused WCW's downfall.

Punk_Raven

08-16-2007, 03:11 PM

I hope AJ Styles gets hired by WWE and becomes HUGE. Him and Daniels. Sick of them getting treated like shit when they were THE top draws of TNA for a while.

PhrostByte

08-16-2007, 03:24 PM

I got an idea for TNA...

Split the roster into 2 big factions. The "TNA Originals" and the "New Breed" (WWE guys). Make both factions legitimate while portraying TNA as underdogs and WWE as rich big shots who are overly catered to, which is somewhat on par with the truth right? Have a few cross-over guys. Since AJ is with Team Christian, keep him there... he can be "too good" for the TNA team. Since Sting is a face and was never in WWE keep him in TNA, he can act as co-team captain with Joe and be somewhat of a mentor to him and the team. Meanwhile, you'd have Christian and Angle as co-team captains... Since Angle is champ he can be an arrogant yet non-chalant only-care-about-myself kind of captain while Christian would be the type to despise everything TNA stands for and want nothing more to destroy it. This can be a super long storyline.. spanning AT LEAST half a year. Along the way, have a few surprise jumps... Maybe have Sting abandon his team and strike a bad blow to team TNA's morale. In the end, it can culminate either in a big superstar debut that eventually turns the tide for team TNA and gets them "the big win" OR... have a big face turn. Like... have some sort of Survivor Series type of championship match where it ends up being Christan and Angle against Joe... have Joe about to win the belt when Christian heads to break the submission when out of nowhere AJ runs out, giveis Christian a Styles Clash and allows Joe to FINALLY win the belt and the war for team TNA.

What do you think?

Sporadic

08-16-2007, 03:31 PM

PhrostByte

08-16-2007, 03:36 PM

No, no, no.

This angle has never worked. Not when it was the "Millonaire's Club Vs New Blood" or "WWE Vs The Alliance" or "ECW Originals Vs The New Breed"

:(

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 05:04 PM

I hope this is the year we finally start seeing roster updates and maybe some other DLC.

I'll settle for custom entrance themes. Is that too much to fuckin' ask for?

Or Demolition and/or Razor Ramon as unlockable legends. Day 1 purchase if that comes true.

guyver2077

08-16-2007, 05:21 PM

i will be fucking pissed again this year if theres no custom entrance songs...

its fucking ridiculous that hasnt been mentioned yet

Zen Davis

08-16-2007, 06:23 PM

No, no, no.

This angle has never worked. Not when it was the "Millonaire's Club Vs New Blood" or "WWE Vs The Alliance" or "ECW Originals Vs The New Breed"

Or when it was called the NWO.

Halo05

08-16-2007, 06:41 PM

That's actually the one time the whole "one big faction vs. another" did work. nWo vs. WCW was a huge draw initially. The issues came when it dragged on for years and mutated into nWo Wolfpac vs. nWo Hogan vs. WCW vs. whatever.

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 06:50 PM

I can't believe I didn't mention this: The Missing Link passed away today at 68 years old. An absolute master of kayfabe, despite having a largely unbelievable character.

guyver2077

08-16-2007, 07:32 PM

im gonna order against all odds 06..its only 5.99 on tna site

Zen Davis

08-16-2007, 09:13 PM

I'm excited for the NYC ROH show. The card is stacked from top to bottom.

ROH World Heavyweight Championship Match
"American Dragon" Bryan Danielson v. Takeshi Morishima

ROH World Tag Team Championship Match
The Briscoe Borthers vs. Kevin Steen and El Generico

Battle Of Generation Next Founding Fathers
Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong vs. Jack Evans

Special Challenge Match
Davey Richards vs. PAC

Tag Team Attraction
Matt Cross & Erick Stevens vs. Mike Quackenbush & Jigsaw

They're going to add more matches but man is this going to be awesome!

Demolition Man

08-16-2007, 09:18 PM

*Wishes for ROH to make a return here soon*

JaytheGamefan

08-16-2007, 09:22 PM

The Missing Link trained Mike Sharpe and current WWE star, Val Venis. He also had a bio book put out last year. AAO '06 for $6 is a good deal, and is somewhat tempting since the visual of Christian winning the belt with the fans around him is awesome.

Zenithian Legend

08-16-2007, 09:37 PM

I can't believe I didn't mention this: The Missing Link passed away today at 68 years old. An absolute master of kayfabe, despite having a largely unbelievable character.

Damn that sucks. Any update on Brian Adam's death? We a go on me doing an Adams memorial topic next?

Zenithian Legend

08-16-2007, 09:38 PM

Uh oh...

World Wrestling Entertainment's stock (NASDAQ:WWE) closed at $13.89 yesterday, the lowest it has closed since November 2005. The stock closed at $14.06 on Tuesday.

If it goes any lower, I might be tempted to buy, as lord knows WWE isn't going anywhere and they will eventually hit another spike in the ratings, even if it's not until freakin' Cena retires.

DJSteel

08-16-2007, 10:03 PM

another angle for Angle could be that he has to defend every belt in one night...that way he loses the belts and looks good doing it...

DJSteel

08-16-2007, 10:05 PM

lol Pac Man's entrance looks like he is getting arrested...

Brak

08-16-2007, 10:12 PM

Can anyone tell me what I missed in the first 8 minutes, before Truth confronted Pac-Man?

How to make a heel in TNA:

Have him beat up Eric Young.

beane316

08-16-2007, 10:22 PM

Anyone else hyped for the December 11th release of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns? Of course, I'm getting Smackdown, but IGN is hinting it MAY end up being $20, so it may be a merry christmas after all :D

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 10:33 PM

A PS2 release of a niche title by Agetec? Yep, all signs point to $20.

Looks like Triple X is already irrelevant in TNA. I don't mind that not everybody is pushed to the moon at the same time, but this back-and-forth is too much. Black Machismo was white hot for a minute, won the X title, lost it the next night, and has been a nobody since then. Now, two months later, it looks like he'll be the X title contender against Angle. Too much up-and-down for my liking. There has to be a nice middle-ground between TNA up-and-down and WWE push-em-to-the-moon-no-matter-what-the-crowd-says attitudes.

Also, I know TNA wrestlers can't sell for shit, but to have AJ Styles show up on TNA as if he wasn't slammed through plate glass, and to have Pacman walk out unscathed after being "laid out" at the PPV is just fuckin' 10,000 leagues under the fuckin' STUPID.

DJSteel

08-16-2007, 10:42 PM

another angle for Angle could be that he has to defend every belt in one night...that way he loses the belts and looks good doing it...

man I'm good..lmao

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 10:45 PM

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2884382/show/20271

Anyone else notice that the guy Karen Angle was schmoozing on at the PPV (and on Impact tonight) is the guy who collaborated on John Cena's album?

Sporadic

08-16-2007, 10:47 PM

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2884382/show/20271

Anyone else notice that the guy Karen Angle was schmoozing on at the PPV (and on Impact tonight) is the guy who collaborated on John Cena's album?

Ha, you're right.

That's John Cena's cousin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tha_Trademarc

Demolition Man

08-16-2007, 11:01 PM

So.... how was Impact tonight?

mykevermin

08-16-2007, 11:06 PM

zzzzzz....

Demolition Man

08-16-2007, 11:09 PM

zzzzzz....

:lol:

I looked at my clock at 7:59 PM but just didn't feel like turning the TV on. Instead I spent the past hour watching various clips of really dumb things on YouTube. I think I got the better end of the deal compared to the current state of TNA.

Yeah.... DemoMan dissing TNA.... now you HAVE seen it all.

Foo228

08-17-2007, 12:16 AM

PhrostByte

08-17-2007, 05:30 AM

very good impact imo

loved the match between lethal and daniels - wasn't predictable and a good finish if you ask me (same goes with the abyss/cage match)

unlike raw, this show had me entertained just about the whole way through

Yeah I thought it was decent too... Only two matches but both were pretty good. A few dumb segments here and there... oh well. :\

guyver2077

08-17-2007, 02:57 PM

Ha, you're right.

That's John Cena's cousin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tha_Trademarc

cant believe angle let that fucker kiss his wife

Zen Davis

08-17-2007, 03:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNV8PYxKn4

Hilarious ROH video wire! Man they're treating Bobby Dempsey like utter shit.

mykevermin

08-17-2007, 03:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNV8PYxKn4

Hilarious ROH video wire! Man they're treating Bobby Dempsey like utter shit.

He's probably thrilled to death that people know his name now, so they'll stop with the "Maestro" chants.

Demolition Man

08-17-2007, 03:11 PM

He's probably thrilled to death that people know his name now, so they'll stop with the "Maestro" chants.

Either that or they'll increase the "Maestro" chants tenfold.

Foo228

08-17-2007, 03:15 PM

Yeah I thought it was decent too... Only two matches but both were pretty good. A few dumb segments here and there... oh well. :\

yea...the whole "team pacman" thing wasn't doing it for me

and how did they manage to get that tag title shot again - by threatening cornette (the man who could supposedly fire them?) haha

could be a spoiler? next week i predict angle wins over the steiners (pin on rick most likely) with help of team 3d (these guys are awful as heels though..:-# ) and then everyone gunning after angle's titles comes after him to end the show

tangytangerine

08-17-2007, 03:33 PM

could be a spoiler? next week i predict angle wins over the steiners (pin on rick most likely) with help of team 3d (these guys are awful as heels though..:-# ) and then everyone gunning after angle's titles comes after him to end the show

Reading the spoilers, that's exactly what will happen. Team 3D cost the Steiner Brothers the match and Angle pin Rick.

Also want to mention that since Raw's ratings have been in the toilet since Wrestlemania, USA is pretty much giving up the idea of giving them another hour for the show.

On the other side of things, TNA is in talks w/ SpikeTV about Impact becoming two hours. Since the ratings have been better than usual, it's improving the idea of a two hour show. Nothing new about their talks w/ Fox about moving Impact there.

guyver2077

08-17-2007, 05:23 PM

The Hulkster's Bling Burgled!

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/08/0817_hulk_hogan_bn.jpgTMZ has learned that Hulk Hogan's Miami Beach home was robbed of a reported $100,000 worth of jewelry just last night. Damn!

The Hulkster and his family were in the process of moving out of their home, when the jewelry was reportedly taken from right under their nose. Some of the pricey gems that have gone missing include a diamond-encrusted watch and two http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/08/bling_gallery2.jpg (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/monstah_bling)gold chains.

Sources close to the Hogans tell TMZ that the family was in the middle of moving to a new Hulk-palace when they discovered that the jewelry was gone.

Demolition Man

08-17-2007, 05:24 PM

:rofl:

Zenithian Legend

08-17-2007, 06:42 PM

Vito appeared on the most recend edition of BWR Online and revealed that he has been dating actress Marissa Tomei. Tomei can be seen in the new movie Wild Hogs. Check out the full interview at bwronline.net.

:-k I thought Vito liked guys. I was expecting him to be dating Urkel.

mykevermin

08-17-2007, 06:45 PM

Looks like his daughter's lazy eye wasn't stolen.

Zenithian Legend

08-17-2007, 07:05 PM

Would it be

A. Wrong
B. Hilarious

To have Cryme Time come out on Monday auctioning off Hogan merchandise?

tangytangerine

08-17-2007, 07:25 PM

Would it be

A. Wrong
B. Hilarious

To have Cryme Time come out on Monday auctioning off Hogan merchandise?

I'd go with B. Yeah, it might not be funny to Hogan, but people read about will get a kick out of it. Plus the fucker needs knocked down a peg with his "I gotta win the match" creative control clause.

Zenithian Legend

08-17-2007, 07:31 PM

I'd go with B. Yeah, it might not be funny to Hogan, but people read about will get a kick out of it. Plus the fucker needs knocked down a peg with his "I gotta win the match" creative control clause.

To add insult to injury they could interrupt a Jillian segment!

Oh WWE Creative, are you clever enough to pour a little salt in Hogan's wounds? Lord knows Hogan has taken his fair amount of shots at the WWE as of late.

wwe101

08-17-2007, 07:37 PM

Reading the spoilers, that's exactly what will happen. Team 3D cost the Steiner Brothers the match and Angle pin Rick.

Also want to mention that since Raw's ratings have been in the toilet since Wrestlemania, USA is pretty much giving up the idea of giving them another hour for the show.

On the other side of things, TNA is in talks w/ SpikeTV about Impact becoming two hours. Since the ratings have been better than usual, it's improving the idea of a two hour show. Nothing new about their talks w/ Fox about moving Impact there.

I'm not gunna read that just yet - maybe next week :roll: