CAGcast #85: You Got Served! [Mobile/Archive]

CheapyD

08-10-2007, 02:21 AM

CheapyD reveals Circuit City's subpoena against CAG and Wombat reveals Halo 3 impressions after 3 hours of playtime with the latest build. We also answer your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) questions, discuss the latest gaming and shopping news, and so much more!

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Note: The Circuit City discussion starts at 14:45 mark.

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Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):

Intro music: Kokoro Scan (DS-JPN)

Vote CAGcast - Podcast Awards
(http://www.podcastawards.com)Pachter Mentions CAG on GameTrailer's Bonus Round (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147568)
Major Nelson Mentions CheapyD and his toilet (http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/08/05/show-238-the-one-about-comic-con-with-ridley-scott.aspx)

CAG Foreplay Podcast #11: New Releases (8/7/07) Wood is not a Super Power Edition (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cag-foreplay-podcast-11-new-releases-8707-wood-is-not-a-super-power-edition.php)

Smash Brothers Gets Adventure Mode (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)
DS Face Training (http://www.destructoid.com/the-most-embarassing-ds-game-yet-face-training-37377.phtml)
Slide Adventure (http://spong.com/article/13426?cb=573)
Kokoro Scan (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23007.html)
(http://www.destructoid.com/the-most-embarassing-ds-game-yet-face-training-37377.phtml)
Lair grounded until September 4 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176019.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;13)
Warhawk $40 on PSN (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/08/03/warhawk-goes-gold/)

XBOX360 Price Drops for all versions - $449/$349/$279 - Premiums Now Sporting HDM (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146462)
De-tarded: Xbox 360 Core Models Being Phased Out? (http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/142499588/xbox-360-core-models-being-phased-out-287794.php)
Xbox 360 Towel Trick vs. CheapyD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avWs4-wD15w)
Microsoft launches new Xbox 360 repair web site (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/140629824/)

PlayStation 3 complications caused GTA IV delay (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27326)
Black Bloggers React to Gamers Reacting to Resident Evil 5 Racism Charges
(http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/03/black-bloggers-react-to-gamers-reacting-to-resident-evil-5-racism-charges/)GayGamer.net offline following hate attack
(http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/05/gaygamer-net-offline-following-hate-attack/)Yes, The New Codemasters Games Are Free (http://kotaku.com/gaming/the-best-things-in-life-are-free/yes-the-new-codemasters-games-are-free-285595.php)

CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382)

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Outro: Bally Arcade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ3WxOh1KYE)

AshesofWake

08-10-2007, 03:36 AM

omg this shit sounds intense, gonna listen now omg.

gunm

08-10-2007, 03:38 AM

Whoo hoo!!! 3 F'n hours...tagged and listening now...

Oh damn...Mrs. Wombat I salute you. Go for where the money, benefits, and long-term prospects are!

Gratz Nascar winnarz.

Ooo...the subpeona part is up... Noooo, not Speedy!!! Seriously, though, I'm not surprised. I agree it sounds like Sony pressure. Although, the point card thing did kind of get screwed over....gah, it ain't right 'cause Speedy is good folk with good intentions.

Don't worry Cheapy about Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime fans...I also think it's not quite up to the hype. It's all a matter of personal taste, of course.

Thanks for the Halo3 impressions, Wombat...I too am not a big Halo fan, but now I'm as jazz'd as I've ever been about a Halo game.

Jim Jim

08-10-2007, 03:44 AM

Subpoena?!! Oh snapz!!

AshesofWake

08-10-2007, 03:46 AM

THIS SHIT IS GETTING CRAZY omg it's only the baby part too :rofl:

edit: OMG SPEEDY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE YOU NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo

yay! hooray for enjoying Metroid Prime, i popped it in a few weeks ago too, playing my second time through. hehe

XMastaCrackaX

08-10-2007, 04:11 AM

OMG i cant wait to listen to this while going to work tomorrow. This shall be interesting.

And speedy were with ya :cry:

NateWhs152

08-10-2007, 04:26 AM

I posted early so rad

whoknows

08-10-2007, 04:45 AM

Downloading now.

Sounds like it's going to be great.

KingBroly

08-10-2007, 04:55 AM

This show was, in a word, crazy.

Cheapy, I think you're going to get a lot of hate mail again concerning Metroid Prime now, just because you revealed your anemic time count in the original, even though you've played more now. You say it's overrated, but you really had to have been there when it came out to really understand why it got such great reviews. Combined with the fact that there was a ton of skepticism about it going in.
And Wombat, for playing 3 hours of being kidnapped by mysterious strangers. I congratulate you on your cunning good sir. You played one heck of a wicked Chess Match!

option.iv

08-10-2007, 05:17 AM

Listening to the CAGcast atm. About the subpeona... the only logical reasoning I can come up with is that Circuit City or Sony ultimately lose out on profit whnever ads are posted ahead of schedule. Once the customers see this ad ahead of time, they'll most like hold off on purchasing items to be put on sale. So less people would purchase the ps3 before the sale once more are notified of of this price drop ahead of time.

MusicNoteLess

08-10-2007, 06:42 AM

If you are outraged about the whole CC fiasco. look here.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8053400&postcount=114

You can do something about it.

thorbahn3

08-10-2007, 06:42 AM

My favorite part was when Cheapy asked if any real celebrities were there (Cliffy B pwned) and Wombat mentions a bunch of D list people. The great other was of course when Cheapy said the Africans were doing enough of a good job killing each other that a white man doesn't need to do some killin' .

Meatwad42

08-10-2007, 08:24 AM

The following is the letter that I sent to Circuit City tonight regarding this action. Feel free to post and repost this anywhere anyone feels may be appropriate.

I mean every word of it, too.

"Hello,

I am a forum member of a website known as Cheapassgamers.com. I wanted you to know that the only, and I do mean the ONLY time I step foot into a Circuit City is when I see an ad or a list of clearance items on Cheapassgamers.com. Because of this site, and again, ONLY because of this site, I drive 20 minutes twice a month or so simply to go buy the things that I see are on sale, or come with a purchase incentive of some sort.

Now, as you have filed legal action towards cheapassgamers.com, you have lost me as a customer. For life. Period.

This is not an idle threat, but a statement of fact.

Should you see some negative press over strong-arming a website and a forum member who only serves to boost your sales among one of your most highly -sought demographics, and should you drop said action, it will still be too late. I have concluded that you are unfit to receive my money.

I won't sit here and make false claims about how I spend $300 dollars a month at your store. I did buy a $1200-dollar HD-TV to go with my new XBox 360 when it came out, but truthfully, I doubt you will miss my business all that much in the grand scheme of things. I'm not naive. What I am, however, is a gamer. And while we gamers may be cheap, usually more out of necessity than not, waiting for you to drop the price on that title we've been on-the-fence about, we are also proud.

We are proud, and we will not be bullied.

Along with the pride that I feel in writing this letter, however, I also feel sadness. I was angry at first, I admit, but now that has given way to the sadness I feel when I realize that I will miss your store. Not just for the deals, but also because it was a little more of a grown-up electronics store than Best Buy, which is closer to a theme park. Crowded, busy, bright, gaudy. I liked that your stores had carpet for some reason, though I could never exactly pin-point why. I bring these things up because I hope that someone there understands that this is not a decision I make lightly, because in the end, I know that this really will hurt me more than it hurts you.

I will be posting this letter on Cheapassgamers.com, not because I wish to incite others to follow my example, but because we are also a community. And the other members of my community deserve to know that they are not alone in the anger and sadness that they too, will no doubt feel over this most egregious course of action that Circuit City has taken against two of our own.

Sincerly,

Justin XXXXXXX"

mtxbass1

08-10-2007, 08:38 AM

"Super fun anal butt plug show."

hahaha

Great Stuff. Bullshit over Speedy, but great stuff indeed.

pop311

08-10-2007, 08:42 AM

Very nice show. Sucks about Speedy though.

Lounge Gremlin

08-10-2007, 09:04 AM

Holy Shit Cheapy. I read this with my girlfriend in bed, and now you have made me get involved in the forums. I think you should come out on top. It's fucken free speech on these forums man, what the hell!

Great show. Recently I've bought Guitar Hero 2 and looking forward now to number 3.

Later,
Pete from NZ.

CouRageouS

08-10-2007, 09:04 AM

:lol: "his name is Roy Harper and he lives in Titan Tower"
Change speedy's name to Arsenal while your at it ;-)

Its horrible news that CCity is coming after speedy, we can only hope that Best Buy and Target doesn't follow in their lead. don't forget Microsoft too, their price drop was all over the place early too. Hopefully it all works out well, otherwise we'll have to start a Save Speedy fund.

G1ZM0

08-10-2007, 09:06 AM

CC doesn't care about the CAG, FW, SD crowd. In fact they hate us. They see people who only buy sale and special merchandise as a burden.

Take a look at this article about BB and "devil" customers.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20041108-4382.html

Cheapy should contact The Consumerist and maximize the bad press they get over this.

LiK

08-10-2007, 09:23 AM

just started, congrats to Mrs. Wombat on those offers. Wombat should be proud. :)

btw, we support you speedy for all you do to help us out!

08-10-2007, 09:40 AM

Cheapy, I wouldn't worry about your Halo 3 playing in the short term, anyway, with the kid coming so soon. Your wife will be home with what sounds like some very generous maternity leave (not being in the U.S. of course). You won't have THAT much to do and should have plenty of time to game. Of course that will all change when she goes back to work, so enjoy it while you can :lol:.

I pine for the easy, carefree days when my wife stopped working a few months before the birth of our first kid. Looking back on it we had SO much free time then we were utterly spoiled. I now have 3 kids with a 4th due in November. I can't imagine what married people with no kids do with all their piles and piles of free time.

Glad to see you liked Metroid more than you thought you would. I played through quite a bit of the first one but never finished and I barely played the second at all (nothing wrong with it, I was just playing other things at the time). I am going to force myself to start MP3 day 1 and complete it before starting any other games though.

liquidcross

08-10-2007, 10:15 AM

Awesome show, guys. And that Japanese fighting game with Transformers in it? It's DreamMix TV World Fighters. Optimus Prime's playable by default, and Megatron's unlockable. There's even a Devastator stage, and MGS2-era Solid Snake!

botticus

08-10-2007, 10:21 AM

Is it coincidental that I also probably only put about 10 minutes into Metroid Prime? I need to boot that up and try it again.

bobthecat23

08-10-2007, 10:26 AM

comment l8ter

Bazz

08-10-2007, 10:49 AM

This is complete Bs of CC , Speedy posts on deals is one of my highlights. What they want you to do is totally crazy. I really hope everything goes okay For Cag as well as Speedy. Don't forget to keep us updated on this issue.

mrerot

08-10-2007, 11:23 AM

That's it, I'm done shopping at CC.

Cursor

08-10-2007, 11:25 AM

"You can't say it because you're a pussy." Best Wombat line!

Cheapy, glad you're doing the right thing with the Speedy thing. I'm glad that I'm participating in a community that is 'stand up.' If you were to roll over on Speedy, I'm sure that I wouldn't be the only one who would be pretty disappointed with the site.

Why don't you consider hosting outside of the USA? In the future, you could avoid these frivilous US lawsuits. Something tells me that you might be able to get some advice from Ms. Cheapy on this front. You could incorporate in Barbados or something. CAG, Inc. has a nice ring to it.

Wombat--at my office, we've gone through a couple of personality tests, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and StrengthFinder. Disc is REALLY old. I can't believe that anyone still uses that. StrengthFinder is the newest one, and the one that I think can be most useful. It focuses only on positives within your organization and the different types of strengths that everyone brings to the table. It's based on the strengths that are identified in successful people all over the world. More research based, and with many more possibilities of how you are rated. It rings truer because there are a variety of differenty dimensions which you can have strengths in.
http://www.strengthfinder.com/
http://www.amazon.com/StrengthsFinder-2-0-Upgraded-Discover-Strengths/dp/159562015X/

MBTI is kind of like Disc, it kind of pidgeon-holes people. Fundamentally, it's a bit too 2-dimensional to really capture the nuances of someone's personality. It has 16 different types (I'm an ENFP).

Next time you do one of these team-building things at the office, try Strengths.

kjauburn

08-10-2007, 11:26 AM

Three hours of Halo 3, nice...

Cheapy your in for a ride with the newborn. It was tough juggling a new job and a 2 month old baby last year when Gears hit.

Edit: Wombat I did a DISC test about 2 months ago as part of a team building offsite. I was a double DD.

velvet396

08-10-2007, 11:27 AM

...Now, as you have filed legal action towards cheapassgamers.com, you have lost me as a customer. For life. Period...
You might want to consider not making CAG plural every time. It kinda discredits your intelligence.

Is it coincidental that I also probably only put about 10 minutes into Metroid Prime? I need to boot that up and try it again.
omg holy hell, me too!

good luck speedy & cheapy! Legal action sucks, I'm sure. If speedy must forcefully resign his role, I'm sure someone will pick up the slack sooner or later. It's kinda like file sharing. And if that's true, it'll get better every time it comes back! (napster -> torrents)

ninju D

08-10-2007, 11:36 AM

FIGHT THE POWER! Fuck CC!

Great show guys!

Wolfpup

08-10-2007, 11:38 AM

I noticed one person's letter to CC said about they only go for the clearance games...I wouldn't say that to them. I seriously doubt they care about you as a customer if you say you only go for stuff on clearance or sale. Best Buy publicly said that, so I'm sure other stores "think" that privately.

LiK

08-10-2007, 11:40 AM

Wombat and Cliffy = together at last

daphatty

08-10-2007, 11:45 AM

Marked for future comment.

SnatchMan

08-10-2007, 11:46 AM

Fuck Circuit City
This website directs a lot of business directly towards CC and now they will lose lots of business sales because of their stupid litigation.

VIVA CAG!!!!

Ikohn4ever

08-10-2007, 11:52 AM

its good to see someone stand up to the big bullies, keep strong Cheapy

mykevermin

08-10-2007, 11:56 AM

Very classy effort on Speedy's behalf. Very classy.

As for the PSN, I don't play online much, but have played Warhawk and Home betas. Both were mostly seamless (Warhawk dropped me 1-2 times out of several dozen games, and both drops happened right as I tried to join a game in progress, rather than during a game). Home worked just fine as well (shame, then, that I feel it will be a complete bomb, those anticipating it will be amazingly let down by how boring and flimsy it is, and the fact that Home will be largely moot once better interactive features - game invites from the XMB or ingame - are implemented into the XMB.)

The biggest issue with the PSN, IMO, is found in the PSN store. The updates are severely lacking. They should be able to compete with XBL head-to-head in terms of demos, and they aren't. Demos are, without exception, later than their XBL counterparts (or they don't show up at all). They should be able to compete with Wii's VC head-to-head in terms of PSX downloadable games. They only have 12 games total, and only 1 new game (SOTN) has shown up since early June. Worst of all, it set a new pricepoint, as all PSX titles but SOTN are $6, while SOTN is $10. The PSN store is, hands down, the most disappointing aspect of the PSN right now.

Lastly, you'll have to forgive my knee-jerk reaction, there are a number of rumors out there about why GTAIV is delayed, some of which implicate the PS3 version, and some of which implicate the 360 version. I don't know that it's fair, even in speculation, to entertain only one side of those theories. Nevertheless, I do agree that this fall will have plenty of good gaming action without GTA.

javeryh

08-10-2007, 12:10 PM

Damn I need to listen to this.

mikeohara

08-10-2007, 12:10 PM

reserved for later comment.

Ow3n

08-10-2007, 12:19 PM

Was I the only one that started to listen to the opening song and thought the recording was chickmunked like the shipwreck's this last week?

Milkyman

08-10-2007, 12:19 PM

You might want to consider not making CAG plural every time. It kinda discredits your intelligence.

omg holy hell, me too!

good luck speedy & cheapy! Legal action sucks, I'm sure. If speedy must forcefully resign his role, I'm sure someone will pick up the slack sooner or later. It's kinda like file sharing. And if that's true, it'll get better every time it comes back! (napster -> torrents)

me 3 yo! actually probably more like half an hour... i didn't enjoy it at all.

nadsofed

08-10-2007, 12:38 PM

We will all be able to have cool toilets just like cheapy, check it out here.
http://www.cleanishappy.com/

Danimal

08-10-2007, 12:45 PM

I'll be listening to this tonight at work. I wish I had time to listen to it right now.

As two other people have already said, fuck Circuit City. Long live Speedy!

PKRipp3r

08-10-2007, 01:02 PM

cc blows

Johnny-C

08-10-2007, 01:16 PM

Hey guys, solid show. I feel that you're handling the Speedy issue as well as anyone could, so keep it up, and good luck with the outcome. Also, thanks for getting to my question. I admit, I wasn't fully considering all legal angles for the FreeLoader, I just jumped to the conclusion that since Nintendo didn't slap it down immediately after it's release, it was legit. Oh well, I was just a little annoyed about the whole thing. It's not like I'll be boytcotting Nintendo anytime soon. Also, if you're looking for a clean toilet in NYC, I ran across this site (http://www.mizpee.com/web/index.html). It has kinks to work out, but it is a novel idea, nonetheless.

oxidative

08-10-2007, 01:36 PM

I haven't listened yet but I saw this picked up on Joystiq and Kotaku. I've sent a tip to consumerist.com, hopefully they will post this as well.

love the 'cast!

jaystaeb8

08-10-2007, 02:00 PM

Congratulations Wombat, you can now be a kept man like Cheapy! A little advice on making the decision, I know she likes her current job, and I understand loyalty is important, but she should go work for the new company. If her current employer valued her that much that they were willing to pay her as much as they are now offering they should have ponied up earlier. The new company appears to understand her true value and are willing to recognize it with the upfront offer, while her current employer appears to recognize that she was worth it all along but wasn't willing to pay her what they thought she was worth until somebody else was. Get your money while you can.

As for the CC, I would be more than willing to pay some money to a CAG defense fund to fight this subpeona. If you set something up Cheapy you can count on a lot of support. I respect greatly that you are willing to spend your own money to help and to protect a CAG and I would happily spend some of my money to help that fight. I intend to buy many things I was on the fence about using the site. I had been holding onto about $1000 I had earmarked for some gaming merchandise but just haven't pulled the trigger on. I will be spending it through the site shortly to get you your backend. I would also be willing to paypal $100 of that directly to you to help pay the lawyer fees.

Good luck Cheapy and keep your head down speedy, don't give them an easy target, I think CC is the type that would probably teabag your corpse if they nail you.

msuna

08-10-2007, 02:40 PM

Everyone should check out Speedy's post on dvd talk responding to the lawsuit by CC

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8052744&postcount=105

Indifference

08-10-2007, 02:52 PM

Hey Wombat a couple of years ago I took a Myers-Briggs personality test. I ended up being an INTJ. This corresponds to the following dichotomies:

Dichotomies Extraversion Introversion Sensing iNtuition Thinking Feeling Judging Perceiving
I was very close to being an INTP, but I a couple of my responses pushed me over to the J side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers_Briggs

whiptcracker

08-10-2007, 02:56 PM

I wish the best of luck to Speedy. Unless he works for one of the companies I don't see what they can do in this situation since he's only posting ad information early which can't imagine really effecting their bottom line that much. If anything speedy's ads have caused me to go to the store and buy stuff I wasn't planning on picking up while I was there. They should give him a PR job for chistsakes.

sdp

08-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Everyone who ever got a great deal thanks to speedy should at least write an email.

I'll do whatever I can.

duran603

08-10-2007, 03:13 PM

I'm a practicing attorney in Florida, and what I do know is that for Circuit City to have a cause of action against Speedy, they must demonstrate that his posting of the ads has caused them some sort of harm. Unless Speedy is a CC employee and his disclosure of the ads violates an employment agreement, I really can't see where the harm is coming from. I do not know what legal theory they are suing under, but unless there is some sort of privity of contract between Speedy and CC, I don't see how they can stop him. I agree with whiptcracker, sometimes I read speedy's postings and I go to CC to take advantage of deals I otherwise would not have known about. So in a way, it could be argued that Speedy is helping CC a great deal. Given the popularity of CAG, CC is likely deriving a great benefit from Speedy. I do not subscribe to a newspaper, nor do I frequent CC's website. Without Speedy's postings, I would have no knowledge of the "Sunday deals." I would imagine there are many others like me out there. Oh well. If CC wants to stop Speedy and lose business, its on them.

oxidative

08-10-2007, 03:23 PM

Consumerist picked up the story!
Yay!

http://consumerist.com/consumer/lawsuits/cheapassgamercom-sued-by-circuit-city-288297.php

Smaqaho

08-10-2007, 03:40 PM

Best Buy and Target should take advantage of this unique opportunity to embrace Speedy.

Unless some unbelievable exclusive deal occurs at CC, I won't be shopping there from now on. I know it won't even amount to be a blip on the radar, but perhaps if we all did it then it could count for something.

LiK

08-10-2007, 03:41 PM

Cheapy, do you think you should censor all CC-related deals on the site until this legal action is over? i don't see why people should support a store that is gonna hurt one of our fellow CAGs and cause you to hire a friggin lawyer.

fuck CC.

Vegan

08-10-2007, 03:43 PM

If I'm remembering old Cagcasts correctly, doesn't Cheapy's wife work in law?

Unless some unbelievable exclusive deal occurs at CC, I won't be shopping there from now on.

Shopping at Circuit City is a nightmare anyway. There's never even anyone at a register. That store has become so ghetto, there's hardly any customers in there; I fully expect to see tumbleweeds drifting by whenever I go in for some clearanced games.

Meatwad42

08-10-2007, 03:44 PM

You might want to consider not making CAG plural every time. It kinda discredits your intelligence.

1. It works. Try it if you haven't already. I think I've been using the plural to get here since I joined the site in 2004. You're going to nit-pick my letter for that? Go to Hell.

2. To the guy who said that I might not have mentioned that I only go there for the sales, I clearly state that I spent $1200 there on an HD-TV, and also, that I'm not naive enough to expect that they'll miss my business. If you're not going to read the entire letter, or are simply interested in taking my quotes out of context, please don't bother commenting. Another way to put this might also be, "Go to Hell."

graf1k

08-10-2007, 03:46 PM

Dude, fuck THAT! Fuckin' CC...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/skyypirate/RadioRaheemLOVEHATEsmaller.jpg
WE GOTTA FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE!

kaw

08-10-2007, 04:10 PM

Respect to CheapyD for not caving into Circuit City's corporate law thugs.

And Halo 3 is sounding better and better. I don't even regret pre-ordering the Legendary edition now.

Good show guys.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/kaw/save_speedy.jpg

Paullenation

08-10-2007, 04:41 PM

Hey CheapyD & Wombat, I just put my order in at play-asia for hotshots golf 5 (the region-free Asian version). Maybe it would be something worth dusting off your ps3s for? Its a great deal, and is cheaper shipped than your typical ps3 game price at retail. Thanks for reccomending play-asia CheapyD, I couldn't get over how cheap shipping was, I mean...jeebus!

super_nerd

08-10-2007, 05:09 PM

Sue CC back!

And about the RE5 thing, in my opinion the complaints are so retarded. So it's completely OK for a white person to be killing white zombies, dog zombies, infected Spainish farmers, and whatever else but it's not OK when it's black people...

Hey cheapy, about the face training game, I heard the way they're getting people to play it is that they claim doing the exercises will reduce wrinkles. Not sure if that's right but if it is, then I can see that game becoming popular with older folks.

jaystaeb8

08-10-2007, 06:03 PM

I just saw on the front page 1003 diggs. Congratulations on hitting your goal, what next some podcast awards then on to world domination!

Hopefully the diggers know to digg something else so you don't lose the diggs needed to keep you over 1000.

nckillthegrimace

08-10-2007, 06:04 PM

If Cheapy is so concerned about how Super Smash Bros. control, then maybe he should take a look at several of the updates on the official website.

4 Kinds of Control. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various01.html)

Custom Controls. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various02.html)

LinkinPrime

08-10-2007, 06:15 PM

Good show! I'm sure everything will turn out fine for Speedy!

BTW: That game you were talking about is this:

Dream Mix TV World Fighters:

http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/dreammixtvworld_GCNbox.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/dreammixtv_011204_14.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/dreammixtc_120403_01.jpg

These were the playable characters:
Konami side:
Simon Belmont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Belmont)
Twinbee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinbee)
Power Pro-kun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jikky%C5%8D_Powerful_Pro_Yaky%C5%AB_series) (Jikkyō Powerful Pro Yakyū '94 - Super Famicom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Famicom) 1994)
Solid Snake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Snake) (Hidden)
Moai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradius_series#Moai) (Hidden)Hudson Soft side:
White Bomberman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bomberman_series_characters#White_Bomberma n)
Master Higgins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Higgins) ("Takahashi Meijin" in Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan))
Yugo the Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugo_the_Wolf)
Momotarō (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momotar%C5%8D) (Momotarō Densetsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momotetsu) - Famicom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famicom) 1987)
Sengoku Manjimaru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengai_Makyo_II:_Manjimaru#Sengoku_Manjimaru_.28.E 6.88.A6.E5.9B.BD.E5.8D.8D.E4.B8.B8.29) (Tengai Makyo II: Manjimaru - PC Engine CD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Engine#CD-ROM_accessories) 1992; Hidden)
Bimbōgami (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bimb%C5%8Dgami&action=edit) (Momotarō Densetsu - Famicom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famicom) 1987; Hidden)Takara side:
Optimus Prime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Prime) ("Convoy" in Japan)
Tyson Granger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Granger) ("Kinomiya Takao" in Japan)
Microman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microman) ("Biotron" in the U.S. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Micronauts comic book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book))
Licca-chan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Doll_Licca-chan) (Japanese fashion doll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_doll))
Megatron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatron) (Hidden)
Asuka (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cool_Girls&action=edit) (Cool Girls toy line; Hidden) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamMix_TV_World_Fighters

KingBroly

08-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Halo05

08-10-2007, 06:18 PM

As a general rule I don't listen to podcasts. I have too many CDs that don't get the attention they deserve.

However, the CC mention in the headline caught my attention and I decided to give it a listen. I hope Speedy is able to maintain his anonymity in the face of Circuit City and/or Sony.

It'll be very interesting if it turns out that this pressure is coming from Sony via CC. The same Sony that saw fit to drive Lik-Sang out of business. MS has a bad reputation that they largely deserved back in the 90s. Now it seems like Sony may well be trying to take the corporate bully crown for itself.

Regardless CC is spineless. They're either caving into Sony's demands or have decided on their own to further alienate customers when they're already getting their asses kicked by Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Target. I don't like any of those stores but from now on, barring some sort of great deal (free $20 game when you buy Forza 2, etc) I'm done with Circuit City. I'll be in there to buy cheapass clearance games and that's it.

racthamp

08-10-2007, 06:33 PM

All I can say is good luck Cheapy and Speedy.. :) u guys did great!

kyogensho

08-10-2007, 07:09 PM

I havent got a chance to listen to the latest podcast, but I just saw the digg count broke 1000. GRATZ you guys! You deserve it!

08-10-2007, 07:20 PM

Hey Wombat - it's nice that you have answered all your emails and all, but I sent you a very specific question about your favorite game (the Big "O") via a CAG PM a few weeks back and you never responded :cry:.

I'll try resending it in the email, maybe that will work better :lol:.

hcamacho

08-10-2007, 07:23 PM

08-10-2007, 07:38 PM

TO WOMBAT.......

cheapyd's wife doesn't have to be in bed during the month previous to the birth of the child, she doesn't has to rest in bed all day, only in cases of high risks pregnancies that is advised, hope everything's fine with cheapy's kid,right, eh.

I am saying this cause my wife has been pregnant 3 times, so.....and she is a teacher in the public school system, and everytime we went to the doctor, we always asked if it was advised for her to rest,and the doctor said that it is highly advised that she stay active until the date of birth.

So if there is no risk in the pregnancy of mrs. cheappyd ....there is no need for her to stay in bed all day in the last month of the pregnancy.

Right on - having the same extensive experience I was going to post the same thing. "Bed rest" is for complications and high-risk pregnancies. Now, it may amount to the same thing, however, as women tend to get very tired during the last few months. My wife did nothing but sleep towards the end of the first one (though we did go for some long walks when she wasn't tired to help get things going - she ended up being nearly 2 weeks late and then being induced). That is because she had no other responsibilities (with her second pregnancy she was too busy with the first kid to sleep much ;)). So besides taking care of her a bit more than normal when she is awake, Cheapy, you will probably have EVEN MORE free time to game than normal! For a short time, anyway, before you start taking over baby duties ;). Enjoy it while you can!

terpkristin

08-10-2007, 08:02 PM

congrats mrs. wombat! that's very exciting news, and i'm sure it's awesome to feel that wanted.

Yowza on the lawsuit...I don't know what to say about that, but I completely respect your actions for it, Cheapy. speedy, we definitely appreciate what you do, crazy CC is doing that (and sad).

am i the only one who's kind of grossed out by a toilet that washes your butt for you? i mean, it sounds like it'd be more to clean up/dry off...maybe it's just me, but i wipe effectively. ;)

and cheapy, as long as you're supporting of mrs. cheapy while she's on maternity leave and getting closer to the pregnancy, i doubt she'd mind too much if you played halo 3. i know i wouldn't mind if my hubby (when i find said mr. right.. ;)) played games as long as he was there for me, too. of course, i may say that becasue if i were home and supposed to be taking it easy as i was getting ready to have a kid, i'd probably be playing games... :D

/tk

hcamacho

08-10-2007, 08:45 PM

http://www.cmcsupply.com/assets/showroomtour/toilet_bidet.jpg

there u have it, it's not my home, but in the latin society is of common use that kind of toilets, some come in a separate toilet for that use only, in my house there is one, but we never use it, I kind of dont like the thing, and if there is a way to convert one toilet into a bidet, that is how it is called, it can be bought in a home depot kind of store and can be installed on the regular toilet , it is not as fancy as the japanese ones, but it does the job....me personally have never used one, and I am telling u guys in the latin homes is highly used.

lokizz

08-10-2007, 08:53 PM

i sit before you all a fervent hater of the wii and yet i cant stay quiet any longer. why the hell is nintendo sleeping on a goldmine with these goofy ass mii's. you all talk about mii's and how cool they are and they go on and on about how much you can customize them so why the hell dont they give you more mii options and mii games.

case in point why not create a mii online wrestling league where you can use your mii dress them up , give them moves and compete in tag matches and singles matches in an online league and even make it where you can win belts and defend those belts and win prizes by beating people( like downloadable content or wii points and other such goofy shit).

and you dont have to just do wrestling why not branch out into other sports like racing or football or basketball all where you can win prizes.

and for the life of me in all their commercials why the hell do they always show those same annoying ass asian guys who knock on random doors and wow they actually let them in to play games.......its stupid and annoying.

theres a perfect song nintendo could use and its by bjork "army of me". keep the song how it is or have her change it to army of wii's or mii's and in the commercial show a single mii walking then show some other ones walking and then do one of those mii parade dealys and they could even go so far as to have a contest where you can get your mii used in the commercial.

and why not some kind of mii zombie game or something damn man in this time where all you hear is how few games nintendo really has they have a goldmine with these mii's but they dont use it to its full potential.

Milkyman

08-10-2007, 08:55 PM

I really don't think Sony had something to do about it. Number 1, CAG is quickly becoming a favorite among all gamers' gaming websites, so Sony wouldn't be smart to piss off CAG. Number 2, CC is upset by this because they lose a week of hundreds of retail dollars. Even though it actually made people want to come into their store for a change. Especially after recent sleeziness performed by said company (AKA firing employees and asking them to come back at lower wages).

I set foot in Circuit City when Mario Strikers came out to get MS points, and after this, I doubt I will ever do so again.

Well, in regards to number 1 you can just look at all the shit sony's done since the ps3 came out and you can't really call them smart. remember when they tried to blackball kotaku for posting their info about home before the official announcement? And that wasn't done by some low level employee that was Karraker or however you spell his name.

I too will not be shopping in circuit city again, their stores always seem dirtier than bestbuy anyway.

daroga

08-10-2007, 09:49 PM

Just in case it doesn't get a lot of views, there's an appreication thread for Speedy going on over here:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148239

linkpwns

08-10-2007, 11:24 PM

Cheapy should ban Speedy's IP...

Wait guys don't get mad at me yet.

Speedy should then remake his same account at a public library. Okay, maybe that would be illegal.

But hey cheapy, you made a promise to your members. On the CAG Forum "Register Page" It says you will not willingly give out personal info to 3rd parties. CC is a 3rd party.

super_nerd

08-10-2007, 11:37 PM

...why the hell is nintendo sleeping on a goldmine with these goofy ass mii's...

case in point why not create a mii online wrestling league where you can use your mii dress them up , give them moves and compete in tag matches and singles matches in an online league and even make it where you can win belts and defend those belts and win prizes by beating people...

Jeebus, that is quite brilliant! I never honestly thought about Miis but now I can see how that'd be a ridiculously big hit. Wombat and Cheapy should poke Nintendo until they make it happen (and stop with them outrageous VC prices and painful friends codes). This kinda ties in with how Cheapy said the Wii could be successful without any real games, although I want games!

Se7enwolf

08-11-2007, 12:05 AM

actually, CC is going after Speedy by demand of Sony and Microsoft. Best Buy, Target and Wal-mart are also believed to have joined the fight. Ccity is just leading the way.

Im Se7enwolf, the guy who leaked out the full page ad of the PS3 price cut right after speedy. I sadly have lost my job over it at the request of Sony. I was in a 2 hour interview/talk with Lose Prevention of CCity headquarters and have actually gained alot of interesting info about whats going on behind the scenes in regards to the leakers. Apprently they have been after Speedy for awhile now before even the PS3 leak.

I have already e-mailed CheapyD about all of this earlier.

Sony was so mad by the leak that the guy said "They want someones head on a stick for this" and that Sony was losing a big amount of money over the leak and was forced to drop the price a week early.

Also Sony, microsoft, other companies and retailers will be going after not just the leakers but also sites that post leaked info such as ads or full mention of the sales. This includes sites such as 1up.com, Joystiq.com, Cheapassgamer, Kotoka.com and others. onces not included are sites like IGN, gamespot and offical magazine sites since they do not post the ads or the leaked info, but only a rumored regards in response to talk over the internet.

Also apprently Sony also threatened to pull all support from Ccity chain if they did not comply with them on their leakers.

Speedy they believe works at a printing plant which of course many already assumed.

One last thing. employees who work at big retailers such as Best Buy, CCity and even printing plants are to sign a confidentiality contract stating not to leak out any information or upcoming sales to the public before the planned release date. Though this contract is sketchy about things because it excludes close friends and family.

I was working at the 3rd top store of Ccity so I had very earily access to sales ads up to 3 weeks in advance because the ads are printed about a month ahead of the actually sales date.

So keep in mind that its not just Circuit City behind all of this, it is many companies and retailers cracking down on this.

Oh and one last thing. Stores do no make anything on video game console sales. On computers they only make about 5% to 15% on sales and at most on tv's, they only make about 25% on sales which is a rare and high number. stores such as Ccity and best buy make their money on accessories, small merch, services and sales.

AshesofWake

08-11-2007, 12:08 AM

son of a bitch....

pop311

08-11-2007, 12:15 AM

fuck

nym123

08-11-2007, 12:45 AM

http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/Circuit_City_Subpoenas_CheapAssGamer

08-11-2007, 12:46 AM

The harder CC pushes the less $$$ I'm spending there.

Oh and if they are reading this try putting some people at the registers. Having people to take sales helps business.

Chronis

08-11-2007, 12:46 AM

If Se7enwolf is right, it looks like Cheapy and Speedy are going to have an uphill battle with a bunch of enemies. Hopefully CC and everyone don't have enough ground for the subpoena

pop311

08-11-2007, 01:07 AM

What exactly is CC charging Speedy (and CAG, et al) with, legally speaking?

Se7enwolf

08-11-2007, 01:12 AM

What exactly is CC charging Speedy (and CAG, et al) with, legally speaking?

Could be a number of different things. Leaking information, stealing property, obstructing business, or something else I dont know about. But he has been posting ads from several different stores which is why they believe he works at a printing plant.

hcamacho

08-11-2007, 01:21 AM

Could be a number of different things. Leaking information, stealing property, obstructing business, or something else I dont know about. But he has been posting ads from several different stores which is why they believe he works at a printing plant.

Hey , has anyone noticed this..... Se7enwolf has just registered on today in this forums, is this guy some kind of employee of CC, or part of the lawsuit against speedy? just the way he express, is kind of ...u know....just wondering.

pop311

08-11-2007, 01:28 AM

Hey , has anyone noticed this..... Se7enwolf has just registered on today in this forums, is this guy some kind of employee of CC, or part of the lawsuit against speedy? just the way he express, is kind of ...u know....just wondering.I was thinking that too.

All right Se7enwolf, Reveal yourself!!!

*Se7enwolf pulls off mysterious cape in a dramatic fashion*

*gasp!!!*

It's Speedy1961!!! This is a huge surprise, even more than when Shiek revealed herself as Zelda.

But really, Se7enwolf, what's your deal with all this jive, smart-talk and informative information?

contej85

08-11-2007, 01:52 AM

Se7enwolf

08-11-2007, 01:57 AM

I just never was interested in posting here before. Im registered at PS3forums.com, IGN.com and Playstation.com, just figured after hearing CheapyD being brought into the lawsuit, that I would let him in on some more informative stuff and whats all going on behind the scenes to give him a legs up. And I posted some of it here for everyone else to know to since you guys are CheapyD supportors.

pop311

08-11-2007, 01:59 AM

Likely story... IK IK

Thank you.

Se7enwolf

08-11-2007, 02:06 AM

why would I put out information that would be damaging againest Sony's and Circuit City's case?

rogueweapon

08-11-2007, 08:58 AM

steverl22

08-11-2007, 11:17 AM

Good show, sucks about the speedy ordeal. Wombat needs to get his wife to start buying his games for him, that's what my over paid girlfriend does for me.

MaxDense

08-11-2007, 12:39 PM

Could people stop with the *reserved for later comment* crap? Is it really so important to have your comment in the first page or 2 that you need to throw that up instead of simply posting when you're ready to comment? When did this become the thing to do?

Agreed. You don't think people go back to earlier messages to read your pearls of wisdom, do you? Post when you have something to say.

meager

08-11-2007, 02:09 PM

I find it odd that Circuit City is the company that has chosen to lead the attack on Speedy. Their own price-matching policy negates next-week sales. People can buy now and match later... as opposed to the other stores where they might lose a sale this week because people are waiting for the ad price.

Anyhoo... Cheapy, you should really try Track and Field. The running controls are mapped onto the analog stick, so it's much easier on the hands. No cramping, although I have slipped off and bumped the Xbox Guide button which lost me a race. I saw a Mad Catz arcade joystick controller I was thinking about getting. It's probably be great for this game.

And as far as Snake being in Smash Bros... What rating will they give to have Snake walking around with his hands full of Kirby and Luigi nuts all day?

E*Master

08-11-2007, 05:35 PM

Usually I agree with everything on your show however I do not agree with u guys on one particular issue. Every website and podcast I listen to has shrugged off the GTA IV delay as if it were nothing. I have heard on many news sites that people are simply shrugging off the delay because GTA IV is just a sequel and not an original IP like Bioshock, Rock Band or Assassin's creed. These are games that are original respectively and seem to offer more interest than sequels to some but stating that this (the delay) is "a good thing" since there is so many games coming out is rediculous.

Would you guys (Cheapy & Wombat) simply shrug off & eat the fact that Halo 3 would be delayed until April 2008? Would any hardcore Halo fan? Would a person who has preordered and paid in full for the game that has been delayed not until the end of the year, but rather 2nd Fiscal quarter of 2008 just shrug off the fact the game she/he is anticipating just shrug it off? I am beyond pissed off at the delay not because it is a delay as much as it is the duration of the delay without a definite release date.
The fact that there was no reason given either really other than it is "technical" doesn't help. Just want to know ur side guys as well as your possible reaction if they did the same thing with Halo 3 out of the blue like they did with GTA IV.

If you got Served CheapyD (Which I am actually quite shocked to hear) how will you appear in their court if you live in Japan? They gonna fly u over? I'm a bit Confused.

Purkeynator

08-11-2007, 06:48 PM

I would say Speedy should post the CC deals and then just change the name of the retailer in the post. This happened last year on the black Friday ad site that one of the stores got pissed for the leaked ad. I think it was Office Depot. The site just changed the name of the store but everyone knew what it was.

level1online

08-11-2007, 09:48 PM

want some real "Face Training"?

http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/090807PHI.htm

Surferflames

08-12-2007, 02:02 AM

Cheapy, you might want to email the EFF and see if they have any additionaly information on the subject. They are a bit more specialized on digital rights and whatnot.

I would say Speedy should post the CC deals and then just change the name of the retailer in the post. This happened last year on the black Friday ad site that one of the stores got pissed for the leaked ad. I think it was Office Depot. The site just changed the name of the store but everyone knew what it was.
Lets call it Big Red and bestbuy could be Blue Bunny.

F8X

08-12-2007, 02:05 AM

Could people stop with the *reserved for later comment* crap? Is it really so important to have your comment in the first page or 2 that you need to throw that up instead of simply posting when you're ready to comment? When did this become the thing to do?

Space reserved for rebuttal.

Nah just joking, anyway good show. I was actually surprised to see Pachter
mention cheapassgamer I mean.. think of ll of the times cags have made fun of him.

And Wombat...Wow just wow.

XboxHardcore.com

08-12-2007, 02:19 AM

I emailed you Wombat but you didn't reply.

Milkyman

08-12-2007, 02:23 AM

theres no lawsuit, its a subpoena. nobody's been charged with anything yet.

davidkibler33

08-12-2007, 01:13 PM

Circuit City SUCKS!! They should be kissing your asses, not sending subpoenas. I won't ever shop there again.. unless they have a good deal on a game or something. Instead of giving up Speedy, can we just kill Wombat and call it even? Good show guys. ps I actually like Wombat but not in that way.

I like how he says " unless they have a good deal on a game or something" I thought "I won't ever shop there again" means ever not, If you find something cheap buy it. Cheapy and Speedy thanks for making our lives more awesome:applause:

Collectordragon

08-12-2007, 03:43 PM

Could someone post a summary of the Circuit City subpoena? I downloaded the CAGcast and it won't work. :( I even used a download manager to make sure it wouldn't be corrupted. I tried both iTunes and WMP and neither will play it. WMP says the format doesn't match the file type. Do I need an unusual codec to play it or something?

Zero_Kirby

08-12-2007, 04:48 PM

Whoa poor speedy

darkcecil32

08-12-2007, 08:53 PM

Although I have no personal use for and do not actually "use" speedy's threads/these forums that often for their actual intent (although I always have fun reading them) as I no longer really have money to spend on games, I have to say that the fact subpoenas got put out is absolutely tripe, asinine, garbage.

Speedy has done all the people of that follow CAG a great service and should be lauded. not vilified. He has not done anything wrong. If these companies don't want to have their ads posted early, here's a shocking idea: don't post them early (note: i know this isn't a pragmatic/viable solution, just a common sense one)!

It's almost funny how closely this parallels to journalism. A good writer never reveals his source(s). In that vein, speedy shouldn't have to ever reveal where/how he gets his ads early. No matter how "damaging" (*rolls eyes*) his posts may be to a company's profits, he has every right to dispense any and all information available to him at HIS OWN discretion.

And honestly, how many sales do these giant...uh, so-called "corporations" (thinks of Target and laughs, as he is currently working at one) think forums impact? To hardcore gamers, the news will spread like wildfire, regardless of where it is first presented. Considering that a growing contingent population of gamers is more casual/un-informed in comparison to the past, most of this news will *hardly* have an impact on them (not to diminish the value of CAG here, of course =p) And among the hardcore gamers, his information promptly gave them business whereas they otherwise would have had NONE. They should be thanking him.

And finally, hopefully before this stupidity becomes more serious for those involved, remember they are subpoenas and not yet formal charges. Hopefully, these comapnies' woeful ignorance will be exposed soon enough, and we all know where the court of public opinion will prevail on this one.

Here's to hoping common sense and justice prevail...unfortunately with the current state of America these days, one can never tell. Let's just all remember, no matter how much the wolf huffed and puffed, he never was quite able to blow the house down.

H.Cornerstone

08-13-2007, 12:12 AM

Wombat, go to network settings and disable media server connection and see if that fixes your problem, I had the exact same thing and I did that and it started to work.

wageslave

08-13-2007, 02:13 PM

Shit, I haven't been active on Cag for a while but I'll have to listen to this.

jrutz

08-13-2007, 04:55 PM

I used to use a program called Vindigo on my Palm Pilot that listed all the public restrooms in NYC, and you could find one based on proximity to your location. Did you know there's a free public bathroom in the Plaza Hotel? Of course, I just went to the bathroom before I left my apartment to avoid any unfortunate situations, but you never know what's gonna happen. Since my wife had to pee every five seconds, I got familiar with all the decent public washrooms in Manhattan. Banana Republic, usually.

Good toilet story? Our apartment in the West Village was so small, I couldn't sit straight on the toilet without banging my knees against the wall. So I learned to sit at an angle, a habit which was pretty tough to break once I moved into a house with a real bathroom. My wife's pretty small yet she did the same thing, don't know why, and to this day I still catch her sitting diagonal on the can even though she could probably stick her legs straight out and still not touch the wall. True story.

And I think this post wins the award for "Too Much Information." Glad to share.

JackFlash666

08-14-2007, 04:03 AM

Wombat playing Halo 3? CheapyD hooking up with Major Nelson for Sumo? This podcast is getting somewhat legit now!

Great episode, keep it up guys!

Tybee

08-14-2007, 05:58 PM

Wombat loves Halo 3? Cheapy loves Metroid Prime? When did I cross over into Bizarro world?

But seriously, it was exciting to hear about Wombat's invitation to the inner circle, hanging out with Cliffy and playing the newest of new Halo 3 builds. Cheapy seemed genuinely impressed, as well he should have been. Congrats also to Mrs. Wombat for finally pulling down the salary she deserves.

I also have to give props to Cheapy for going out of his way to get an American Wii, going back and giving Metroid Prime another shot, and, most significantly, admitting that he was mistaken in his disdain for the series. That takes huevos. Glad you're enjoying the Wii more now that it's speaking your language. I'm sure I speak for many CAGs when I say I'd love to take you on in Strikers Charged, if you can abide the friend codes.

The subpoena and the whole Speedy1961 situation is surreal. I can't believe they're really taking this course of action, especially after Sony took a PR bath after the whole Home/Kotaku blackballing thing. Do all these companies think their customers won't find out about this? Chances are, if you're savvy enough to have been using the information Speedy was providing, you're certainly tuned in to what they're doing now. Label us devil customers or whatever you want, but you WILL lose our business.

Shame, too. Since BB killed the GGC and Circuit City started offering the best deals, they could have easily positioned themselves as the game retailer of choice. I was even considering purchasing a 360 there to take advantage of their new gamer discount card thing. No longer.

sinewav

08-14-2007, 07:32 PM

In yet another sign that Circuit City is behind the times here comes the time honored tradition of getting your lawyers involved when all else fails. This whole fiasco is merely a smokescreen to cover the fact that Circuit City did a lousy job or protecting their secrets and now that the cat's out of the bag here comes Circuity City fishing for scapegoats. What can they possibly gain from this that would make all the bad PR worth the effort?

Woe to the people who thought this was a fine idea without thinking the consequences all the way through while at the same time provoking a tidal wave of backlash from the CAG community. Woe to Circuit City if they truly feel that this was in their best interests. Woe to us who without needing it have received in earnest more than enough reason to say you will never see our harded earned cash again.

Infinity

08-15-2007, 11:22 AM

Wombat, go to network settings and disable media server connection and see if that fixes your problem, I had the exact same thing and I did that and it started to work.
I also had this problem. Here's what helped.

1. Had the PS3 on a switch below my router. So the connection went from cable modem to router to switch to PS3. I put the PS3 on the cable directly from the router.

2. That improved things somewhat, but I still had occasional disconnects, so I made sure the router had UPNP on, and turned on UPNP in my network settings on the PS3. I did NOT turn off Media browsing, but I've read others suggesting it.

That seems to have done a great job of keeping me connected. Knock on simulated particleboard wood-like substutite, I haven't gotten disconnected once in Rainbow Six Vegas since I did that.

Other things about my setup:
- This is an ethernet (wired) connection.
- I am assigning an IP address to the PS3, not letting it choose its own settings, etc.
- My router is a SMC Barricade 7004VBR 4-port router, probably 5 years old now, no wireless on board.

In the future I might put the switch back and see if UPNP is good enough to keep things running smoothly. I'm having difficulty usng a wireless box for another device under my TV.

Good luck Wombat, and let me know if I can help any other way.