The Boycott Circuit City Thread

[fullmetalfan720]

After what has happened with Circuit City, cag and speedy
(details are here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147888) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147888%29), I have decided to boycott Circuit City. Now who's with me?

EDIT: In case you missed it Circuit City has subpoenaed CAG. Listen to CAGcast #85 for more details.

EDIT: Our best chance is to go to the media and we can do it by digging these two artricles, this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/CAGs_boycott_circuit_city
and this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Circuit_..._CheapAssGamer (http://digg.com/gaming_news/Circuit_City_Subpoenas_CheapAssGamer)

EDIT: Here is various gaming websites coverage of this story:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/not-cheap/
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161875
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/ch...-circuit-city/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/cheap-ass-gamer-subpoenaed-by-circuit-city/)

Also if you want to write a letter to circuity city about this situation, here is the link that LinkinPrime posted:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=114 (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8053400&postcount=114)

[mtxbass1]

I'm definitely in on this. Fuck Circuit City.

[Vinny]

CC's been pretty cool with me actually... I've had little to no trouble with them. It's either CC or BB around here and CC is way better than BB could ever hope to be.

While this is alarming, they haven't actually done anything to CAG or Speedy so I won't be doing anything until I see them do anything else.

Looks like I might have spoke too soon as there's more to the story than the initial post in the linked thread.

[sendme]

Last thing I bought from them was an ipod and that was almost a year ago. With the points for buying from Best Buy I just don't think to go to Circuit City. Also the one in this area does not have much.

[FunkyDoRight]

Dear god. Miss all the CC Clearence and sales. Hell no.

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

Yes, I will boycott; CC isn't that great anyways, I can just PM stuff from their ads

[Sc4rfac3]

sign me up fuck cc

[Theduck]

Signed

[devildr1ver]

i will too (after i find and purchase some of the games im still looking for lol )

[guyinga]

In speaking with CC employees and going to CC stores, I'm not the least bit surprised and I'm very disappointed. It seems that CC corporate is as inept and misguided as many of their employees and managers they hire. The problem is, no matter what we do, CC will not be affected until their stock is below $10 and Best Buy buys out Circuit City.

The truth is no one will buy a PS3. Period. Until it is across the board below $300. I'm wondering if Sony threatened action against CC and CC in their infinite wisdom thought suing the very consumers giving them money was a great idea.

[Tsukento]

Yes, boycott CC for seeking legal action against DVDTalk for a STILL UNKNOWN REASON (everyone is simply speculating it's over the threads showing off the upcoming ads). That makes sense!

Fuck that. I enjoy the deals and clearances they do have.

[fullmetalfan720]

Actually CC has sent a subpoena to Cheapy D asking for Speedy's contact information.

[eugaet]

Actually CC has sent a subpoena to Cheapy D asking for Speedy's contact information.And it specifically has to do with the PS3 price drop leak.

I'm not boycotting...yet. I'm going to wait to see how this plays out. There's a lot of possible deals coming up I could get in on...provided I still have early access to the ads.

[ITDEFX]

the problem with a boycott thread like this is that it is not going to hurt CC in the long run. When you go to a CC store, you barely see it busy...yet you can't find someone to help you out or answer the damn phone. They have already canned several thousand employees due to restructuring and some people think its the next major electronic store to go under in the near future... Who knows what is to happen next. I've gotten mixed results from shopping at CC.

While I feel for Speedy and the situation, a boycott won't help the situation. Now writing letters and emails to CC cooperate *might* bring down the pressure and hopefully prevent Speedy from getting sued. Yes I think it's stupid for CC to try to pressure CAG and other sites to get Speedy's personal information. Releasing the ads and posting it on line can both hurt and help CC in the long run. CC wants you the customer to come in and buy their shit during the weeks ad. If something is going to be cheaper 2 or 3 ads down the line, they don't want you to know that because they *hope* you will forget about doing a PM and get that extra 10% back. In terms of the system price drop, they probably saw an major increase in system sales when the early ad was posted and started putting two and two together and knew they would start loosing a lot of money big time with the 110% pm guaranty. This isn't a few hundred, when you add all the price matches and that extra 10% that will add up to a few million.

I am no lawyer but even if the IP addresses are handed over, it is only a matter of time before they contact the ISP and somehow get Speedy's personal information. Lawyers are paid mega bucks, and believe me once they are let loose they will work night and day to get the job done.

Good luck Speedy... just don't give up on us!

[leehom]

The truth is no one will buy a PS3. Period. Until it is across the board below $300. I'm wondering if Sony threatened action against CC and CC in their infinite wisdom thought suing the very consumers giving them money was a great idea.

What does ps3 sales have anything to do with CC? Stealth troll FTL.

[HotShotX]

Signed. Until this is resolved, CC shall not receive another cent from me. Unless of course I'm ripping them off through a PriceMatch misprint (and they're taking the massive loss).

~HotShotX

[scsg75]

1UP.com (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161875) posted a news story about the situation (not the boycott, but the subpoena)

[ITDEFX]

Signed. Until this is resolved, CC shall not receive another cent from me. Unless of course I'm ripping them off through a PriceMatch misprint (and they're taking the massive loss).

~HotShotX

oh so not in spirit of this site :(

[nonggame]

Signed. Until this is resolved, CC shall not receive another cent from me. Unless of course I'm ripping them off through a PriceMatch misprint (and they're taking the massive loss).

~HotShotX
Agree FUCK CC

[guyinga]

What does ps3 sales have anything to do with CC? Stealth troll FTL.

My point is CC wondered where the increase in sales were coming from even though they probably told Sony no one knew about the price drop until they release the ad. They then pinpointed the ad leak to here and DVDTalk and then thought suing/subpoena'ing speedy's personal information would stop it.

BTW, I just spoke to someone with CC and they didn't know what I was talking about. I also sent them an e-mail too. Also, if you PM me, I have several numbers you can use to contact CC. I don't want to release them here.

[tototheexplorer]

I'm not even a regular poster and I'm still participating in the boycott. It's a shame some people have decided not to for monetary reasons. That's why this country is shit; the dollar is a vote and people don't care who they give it to as long as it benefits them in the short-term.

[ITDEFX]

My point is CC wondered where the increase in sales were coming from even though they probably told Sony no one knew about the price drop until they release the ad. They then pinpointed the ad leak to here and DVDTalk and then thought suing/subpoena'ing speedy's personal information would stop it.

BTW, I just spoke to someone with CC and they didn't know what I was talking about. I also sent them an e-mail too. Also, if you PM me, I have several numbers you can use to contact CC. I don't want to release them here.


Calling CC Corporate directly for answers won't do jack because the person who answered doesn't know what's going on because her job is to route calls OR her bosses say "If anyone calls about this, you don't know jack!" The average joe won't be able to get answers, not even the media. Lawyers only talk to other lawyers.

[apokalipze2]

Circuit City is garbage. Seriously all their stuff is sold at msrp, I don't know about the games since I buy them mostly online

[Tsukento]

Circuit City is garbage. Seriously all their stuff is sold at msrp, I don't know about the games since I buy them mostly online
Yeah! Nevermind those games like Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin being sold at $16.96! Nevermind the Wii and DS games that are sold $10 off at release! Those CERTAINLY aren't deals! :roll:

[CocheseUGA]

Yeah! Nevermind those games like Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin being sold at $16.96! Nevermind the Wii and DS games that are sold $10 off at release! Those CERTAINLY aren't deals! :roll:

You've expressed your position, stop trolling.

I've had a boycott going for a couple months now, with the lone exception of the MS points. It will surely continue.

[Rocko]

Eh. I never shop there much, and I'll continue to shop there when there's a deal to be had. While taking action over this seems stupid on their part, it certainly isn't a bogus lawsuit.

Well, it actually isn't a lawsuit at all. Yet.

[Danimal]

I'm done with CC. I've had headaches dealing with both CC and BB in the past, so it doesn't thrill me to give either store my business anyway. As far as deals or clearance items at CC, if I can pricematch them elsewhere, I'll do that. If I can't, I'll just do without that particular game or item until it can be gotten cheaply elsewhere.

I don't imagine that a CAG boycott of CC will even be a blip on their radar screen, but just on principle of wanting to support CAG and Speedy I won't spend another dime there.

[CocheseUGA]

I'm done with CC. I've had headaches dealing with both CC and BB in the past, so it doesn't thrill me to give either store my business anyway. As far as deals or clearance items at CC, if I can pricematch them elsewhere, I'll do that. If I can't, I'll just do without that particular game or item until it can be gotten cheaply elsewhere.

I don't imagine that a CAG boycott of CC will even be a blip on their radar screen, but just on principle of wanting to support CAG and Speedy I won't spend another dime there.

CAG and DVDT though? This could have some legs.

[v1et r1ce]

I'll in this...until I need a part time job to save up for college :roll:

[ITDEFX]

I think the only thing that will happen once they find speedy will be




A. a cease and desist order. Basically telling Speedy shut up and don't post our ad information (if he works for CC, he will probably be canned as a slap on the wrist or he will have to turn in his CC insider )


or

B. a huge ass fine, probably some rediculous number that CC will pop out of their asses because "CC lost sooooooooooo much money because of Speedy's actions" (yea what ever, so pick on the little guy because no one wants to shop at CC so you have to make up for the losses)

I suggest once CC finds Speedy, that he goes DIRECTLY to the media.. They eat this shit up all the time and with enough exposure, someone out there will come to help him out.

[62t]

this is not the first time things like this has happen. I think Best Buy did something when their Black Friday ad was leaked on fatwallet.

[madportagee]

I agree, been on CAG for a while. This is pretty crappy to say the least. I'll shop elsewhere as for the people that say they advertise for like a whole $10 cheaper, just go price match at walmart or bestbuy. Majority of the time they are just across the street.

Good luck Cheapy and Speedy.

[Pi573]

CC were jerks to me when I tried to get a Wii. I camped out there before Christmas, sixth in line, watched as they busted open five cases. So they've got 15 of them. Then they came out at 7 am and told us they had five, because they'd held ten back for people, and no, we couldn't get any held back, sorry you had to wait in the cold for nothing. Then they were jerks when I complained to customer service about it. They made a huge mistake and handled it in the worst way, and I got my Wii (somewhere else) despite their ineptitude.

Their prices suck. Their customer service sucks. Their so-called "awesome freakin deals" are only applicable to stores where employees don't pull all the stuff in advance or hoard it for themselves (like mine-of all the sales they've ever run, I got Advance Wars DS for 8.96 and that was it-admittedly decent, but not worth putting up with everything else over) Frankly, this situation is only the tip of the iceberg that is my beef with them.

Needless to say, I signed this before it even existed.

EDIT: While I'm a bit weary that this site is rapidly becoming "ZOMG x place sucks and here's why!" I do think this is a worthy fight.

[Apossum]

meh, I'm a devil customer anyway. I just feed off of their clearance titles (and fed off of their B2G1 point cards :) )

[Stingermck]

I was already boycotting CC. Uninformed employees, long lines to check out, recently giving me a blank Gift Card, and the Hard Boiled/Stranglehold debacle. Now this is just more reason.

The company is a joke, that fires its best employees, and shits on its customers.

[norkusa]

I've been boycotting CC ever since they fired all of their long time hourly employees earlier this year. This gives me even more reason to hate them.

[SaII]

what if this thing isn't about circuit city? this entire thing started because Sony got upset that CC's ads leaked the info on a price drop. why the hell would CC care if it's shoppers knows when to go to the store and buy items? this entire thing is Sony pressuring CC to subpoena CAG. why boycott the messenger when you can boycott the real deal?

[dack]

Count me in.

Circuit City won't be getting one cent of my money.

I already stopped buying non-clearance items there after they fired the long time employees, but now they loose all my buisness completly.

Also, I have a lot of friends who are big time buyers of HD DVD's/Blu Rays/Expensive items they need to sell, and shop at Circuit City. I'll make sure to get them to stop shopping there.

[v1et r1ce]

why boycott the messenger when you can boycott the real deal?
I read a comment on kotaku where a guy said...

"How many of you have boycotted sony since they took down lik-sang?

:roll:

My guess, very very few have and will.

[Punk_Raven]

Is it wrong for a store to not want ads to be seen by the public ahead of time?

[Rocko]

what if this thing isn't about circuit city? this entire thing started because Sony got upset that CC's ads leaked the info on a price drop. why the hell would CC care if it's shoppers knows when to go to the store and buy items? this entire thing is Sony pressuring CC to subpoena CAG. why boycott the messenger when you can boycott the real deal?

Because you can't get Sony exclusives anywhere else. It's easier to take a stand when you don't give anything up. ;)

[botticus]

I'm torn on whether boycotting CC would be good or bad for them, in my case... I need to talk to my co-worker's brother who is now a manager there (and yes, corporate has no idea how to run that chain, according to him), see if I can find out their cost for the stuff I buy. If it costs them money, I'll take it. If they're profitting, I'll PM elsewhere.

Not sure why people are afraid of missing out on CC sales if they boycott, you never PM at Best Buy to get RZ points? Weird. Clearances (which have been pretty ridiculous both in quality and in stock lately) are the only thing one would lose.

[Vinny]

I honestly cannot support this boycott. While I think CC's actions were a bit quick (and stupid), I actually think CC is a good store. I can't go to BB anymore... I hate and stopped going there almost completely (I think I've been inside a BB twice in the past 2 years).

Plus, they have decent clearances and general sales.

Again, I don't support their auctions but 20 CAGs not going to their stores probably won't do anything for their business. Most of us rape them when it comes to deals so I'm sure they'll be glad to get rid of us.

[masterofdarkness]

Circuit City can suck my balls long and hard :) I'm in..

[SaraAB]

I haven't bought anything from CC in some time so I am in, the one near me is a VERY disorganized store which usually has you running around for 10 min just to find the games dept.

[THoward7382]

So a company is suing trying to protect their best interests and you all boycott them? lol

Imagine if you were them and always having a certain individual leak all the secrets.

[MaskedPlague]

Sometimes it's just a matter of principle. As I have stated in the appreciation thread, I am not shopping at CC until this issue is cleared up. Corporations are ruining this country. If anything, speedy saved CC a bunch of price adjustments by posting these ads.

[GizmoGC]

CC can go fuck itself. I won't go there again.

[The Mana Knight]

The truth is no one will buy a PS3. Period. Until it is across the board below $300. I'm wondering if Sony threatened action against CC and CC in their infinite wisdom thought suing the very consumers giving them money was a great idea.Stealth troll.

People are buying a PS3. I bought a PS3 and there are other CAG Members who have. There are people here who bought a PS3 today here. So no one is buying one eh. :roll:

If Sony was behind this, Best Buy and Target would be mentioned too, but they aren't. CC is the one who tends to pull games off the shelves when people at CAG hear about their sales. They are also the ones who seem to have a grudge against CAG because we refuse to pay their ridiculous prices on most games and will only buy when they put out a clearance (which I'm glad CAG Members do, since CC overprices a lot of stuff).

CC has been going downhill anyway, so I don't really buy many games from them. I'm even starting to like EB/Gamestop more than them.

[Justden]

CAG has been good to me. Even though it won’t be convenient for me, I'll not only be boycotting Circuit City until this is resolved, I will be recommending other options to everyone I know that is thinking of shopping there.

The amount of money CC loses from my no longer being a patron may be negligible but the propaganda I spread to everyone I know will likely have quite a substantial impact this coming holiday season.

[nmr509]

Co-Sign. They're not going to see my money until speedy is off the hook. I'll be pricematching all of their sales at bestbuy.

[Z-Saber]

Even if this bullcrap doesn't escalate and they drop it immediately, it doesn't matter. Customer -1.

[neocisco]

I assume that some of you have noticed the abundance of CC ads on this site. Assuming Cheapy stays strong (fight the power!) I still don't see that changing. The divisions of CC corporate are the definition of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

[blackjaw]

I dont know, I'm not big on banning places. I'll probably go grab a TV on Sunday with my 10% coupon I got from my 'moving package' from USPS.

[botticus]

I dont know, I'm not big on banning places. I'll probably go grab a TV on Sunday with my 10% coupon I got from my 'moving package' from USPS.Best Buy coupons just arrived in the maile today, use the 10/12% coupon from that.

[LinkinPrime]

I think that you guys should do this as well:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8053400&postcount=114

[ryanflucas]

Just an availability FYI:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/ryanflucas/cc.jpg

The easiest way to spread info through the "Internets" is to create websites, and post on sites such as Myspace & Facebook. Also, someone should create a press release suitable for sending to media outlets.

[ryanflucas]

The .com registered above is domain parked. Often businesses will buy up all domains that may show degradation in their company names in advance, park them, so nobody else can use them.

[greatscot]

So a company is suing trying to protect their best interests and you all boycott them? lol

Imagine if you were them and always having a certain individual leak all the secrets.

Please explain what "secrets" he is leaking? It's not like he put the recipe for Coke on the internet.

I'm guessing this is Sony putting pressure on Circuit City to get this info., but I don't know that.

Hopefully Cheapy can avoid having to turn over any info. on Speedy or any other CAG.

[Tsukento]

I'll simply make one final note on my end. No, I'm not going to boycott CC. They DO have decent deals on a weekly basis and awesome clearances. Yes, as a company, they're quite bad. They can't run it for shit. This is not really new. The only reason everyone seems to be doing so is simply to jump in the bandwagon just because Speedy's in trouble.

As some mentioned before, the is definately likely to be the work of Sony. They had no problem throwing lawsuits around over the smallest of things. Remember when Lik-Sang was sued over selling import PSPs to Europe even though they gave out free European plugs? No one boycotted Sony there. We have a gaming retail chain that shits all over its customers AND employees on a DAILY basis. No one's boycotting them.

To be completely I honest, I think this will hardly have any effect on CC.

[akilshohen]

I probably won't be shopping if speedy can't post the ad, it was really the only way I saw the ad in the first place.

[Skelah]

I dont care for them in anycase but cag has like 100 more reasons to boycott gamestop yet we dont?

lets see speedy vs all the members here who have had tons of trouble with gamestop hmm choices?

I already avoid them both as it is.

[hiccupleftovers]

Dear god. Miss all the CC Clearence and sales. Hell no.

You shouldn't be considered a CAG then. You're new anyway and I'm sure most would be happy if you left.

CAGs stick up for each other. Speedy and Cheapy are our brothers in arms. I for one am all for this boycott and would say that Cheapy should contact the other bargain/deal sites to have them get in on this as well. Spread the word through the internet and send a message to the "mainstream media".

[gunm]

Meh, I almost always PM stuff @ BB (for reward zone) anyways. I rarely buy stuff directly from CC anymore, especially since cc.com started screwing me over in shipping.

[hiccupleftovers]

To be completely I honest, I think this will hardly have any effect on CC.

I agree with your other sentiments in this post that this is probably Sony's doing, but CC is just as guilty as a coconspirator. I don't buy Sony anymore - no matter what it is - and will not be shopping at CC in the interum (sp) until either CAG, DVDTalk, and Speedy are exonerated of any charges or it just blows over.

To address your post that this will not have any effect on CC, I would beg to differ. CC's stock has been in the toilet for sometime now. They simply cannot compete against the onslaught that BB and Walmart have on them and when a Fry's moves into their area you can practically stick a fork in them as they're pretty much finished.

Circuit City's stock is valued at 11.35

Best Buy's stock is valued at 45.09

Pretty HUGE difference in stock evaluation there. If you get the internet's might - a few bloggers, some myspaces/facebookers, the bargain sites - then you've got quite an onslaught there. 100,000 CAGs not reading their ads and going elsewhere will be a huge dent to their overall bottom line and you'll see their stock drop even more.

Let's spread the word and send this out to all the mags and get kotaku on board. They have a pretty large readership (much of which consists of CAGs) there.

[hiccupleftovers]

This has gotten onto 1up.com. Hopefully it makes it into the upcoming EGM:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161875

Interesting message left on the 1up article:

http://www.1up.com/media?id=2417820 By Sony and Microsoft Author: Se7enwolfman (http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5654874), 08/10/2007 Actually Circuit City is only going after these guys because Sony AND microsoft is telling them to. Sony had threatened to pull all support from Circuit City if they did not take action againest me aka Se7enwolf and Speedy for posting that stuff. Sony had me fired and now they are going to be taking legal action againest Speedy and even other gaming sites who do post leaked information which includes possiblity of 1up and even joystiq.com.

Best Buy, Target and Wal-mart are also joining in on the fight.

Supposably Sony lost major amounts of money do the leaked PS3 price cut and made their drop the price a week early. The guy who interviewed me about the leaks said "Sony is wanting someones head on a stick for this." But because I wasn't the original one to post it, i wont be getting legal actions againest me.

This is probably the only fight you will see major retailers and rival companies working together.

All of the articles, gaming publications, etc. that are helping the CAG and speedy cause should be updated in the original post. Perhaps our main man Linkin or one of the other mods could do that.

[hiccupleftovers]

Kotaku got their hands on it as well thank god:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/best-buy/circuit-city-subpoenas-cheapassgamer-288081.php

[chodax]

I just bought that Olivia 27" TV! yay!

I mean boycott Circuit City! yay!

[hiccupleftovers]

I just bought that Olivia 27" TV! yay!

I mean boycott Circuit City! yay!
Olivia's are cheapest at Sam's Club or Costco anyway:roll:

[elmyra]

It's funny, just this afternoon I swore that I wasn't going to shop there any more. Not because of this, I hadn't read about it yet, but because I've had a series of crappy experiences this week while trying to buy Civ IV: Beyond the Sword (CC has it on sale for $14.99). Circuit City always gives me problems, and it's just not worth the aggrevation any more.

[chodax]

Olivia's are cheapest at Sam's Club or Costco anyway:roll:

No membership :(

[Sir_Fragalot]

Meh I never shop there anyway because there isn't one close but now I know not to even bother if I do pass one, rather just go to best buy or something.

[hiccupleftovers]

No membership :(

Well then you still should have PMed. The Decatur, Maryland, and Stephanie stores all suck. They're putrid stores where to find merchandise is a pain and where no employee knows anything and takes for anything to come out from the back.

[wEEman33]

Sign # 503 that Circuit City sucks and deserves to go out of business:

It is frequently easier to get the deals that they specifically advertise in their weekly papers by price-matching them in other stores than actually walking into a CC and ringing up said deal at one of their registers.

[apokalipze2]

Yeah! Nevermind those games like Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin being sold at $16.96! Nevermind the Wii and DS games that are sold $10 off at release! Those CERTAINLY aren't deals! :roll:I wasn't talking about the games dummy. And yes I know this is cheapassGAMER

[chodax]

Well then you still should have PMed. The Decatur, Maryland, and Stephanie stores all suck. They're putrid stores where to find merchandise is a pain and where no employee knows anything and takes for anything to come out from the back.

I'll see if I can PM then, and I've head some good experiences with the Stephanie store, and got some good deals when the Eastern store was still around.

[fullmetalfan720]

Everyone digg this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/CAGs_boycott_circuit_city
and this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Circuit_City_Subpoenas_CheapAssGamer

[Sc4rfac3]

CAGs stick up for each other. Speedy and Cheapy are our brothers in arms. :applause:This is why i'm down with the boycott. If you stand for nothing you will fall for everything.

[Chitown021]

From what I've read it seems like instead of boycotting CC we should be encouraging people to shop there. Now before you flame me hear me out...

All of the major retailers actually LOSE money on those deal items in hopes of increasing traffic and suckering people into buying the profitable items such as services and warranties. If we were to shop there and ONLY buy the cheap ass sale items it seems like to me that would do more harm to them.

Remember we're the type of shoppers they hate the most because we only buy the really cheap "loss" items.


That's the only reason I ever shopped there. I've bought a total of 3 things there in the last year. NCAA Football 08 for the PS3(only because for some unknown reason none of the Wal-Marts had it on launch day and for the $10 gift card), 2 clearance copies of Lumines, and a clearance copy of MGS-PO.

[guyinga]

To those reading, sorry for the trolling about Sony/PS3. I felt that way because every time I go into big box retailers, I see PS3's everywhere and gathering dust yet people asking about the Wii/purchasing Wii's. My only conclusion is either the system is overpriced, no one wants anything by Sony, or people are too broke to buy video games.

Anyone notice that Circuit City has banner ads on this site and laughing at the stupidity of it all?

I think the case has no merit because I don't think CC will be able to prove a loss of revenue or business. And does CC just not understand how the internet works? It's like they expect/assume internet users are scammers.

[kjauburn]

Yeah the constant circuit city banner ads on the site are great....

[SaII]

Because you can't get Sony exclusives anywhere else. It's easier to take a stand when you don't give anything up. ;)
I for one will boycott Sony and CC :)

[v1et r1ce]

For all of those that want a a boycottcircuitcity.info domain, I can get one for free on another site...I just need a couple more points and I get a free .info site for a year..just post here if you're interested.

btw someone wanna give me a save speedy and cag avatar? :D

[Scobie]

You shouldn't be considered a CAG then. You're new anyway and I'm sure most would be happy if you left.

CAGs stick up for each other. Speedy and Cheapy are our brothers in arms. I for one am all for this boycott and would say that Cheapy should contact the other bargain/deal sites to have them get in on this as well. Spread the word through the internet and send a message to the "mainstream media".

Right on. I'm shocked at the people who are like "eff that! gotta get my cheap game on!" like there's not dozens of other places with sales and clearances and like this issue doesn't matter.

CC vs. speedy strikes at the very heart of what we're all doing here. If we all don't have a swift, united reaction and financial impact on CC to make them re-think, they and other companies will continue with these types of B.S. legal actions against sites like CAG.

All I'm saying is don't undermine your own interests and show some solidarity with a guy who has probably saved you a lot of cash. Viva speedy!

[davo1224]

How exactly did it lose them money is what I'm trying to figure out. Did Sony really expect that many more people to buy the PS3 a few weeks before the price drop? It sucks to have it leaked but I personally know of a lot more people that are interested in it now after all the talk of the price drop versus before.

[mwgiii]

I will join the boycott.

[icedout297]

The only time I will ever shop at CC again is to purposely make them take a big loss (i.e. price match a huge error on a flyer) or exploit their $20 gift card promo on some new release titles. Other than that, my business is moving to BB.

[grimlock49]

screw CC.

signed

[Justden]

I'm seeing this argument alot but I really don't agree with the logic in it. Most of these stores have price protection if the console was purchased shortly before the price dropped.

If I heard news that the console was dropping its price and waited, that means I purchased the console. If I didn't wait and purchased the console, I would be refunded the difference. Either way I'm paying the same. How is me paying for a console later for the exact same amount of money as I would earlier considered a loss? Unless they are banking on people that won't seek price protection, which is pretty shady and gets no sympathy from me for any company that expects that (ie. rebates).

Also, if the other major retailers are considering jumping on board with CC, then all the more reason to send the message that if they do, they too may lose bussiness.



http://www.1up.com/media?id=2417820 (http://www.1up.com/media?id=2417820)By Sony and Microsoft Author: Se7enwolfman (http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5654874), 08/10/2007 Actually Circuit City is only going after these guys because Sony AND microsoft is telling them to. Sony had threatened to pull all support from Circuit City if they did not take action againest me aka Se7enwolf and Speedy for posting that stuff. Sony had me fired and now they are going to be taking legal action againest Speedy and even other gaming sites who do post leaked information which includes possiblity of 1up and even joystiq.com.

Best Buy, Target and Wal-mart are also joining in on the fight.

Supposably Sony lost major amounts of money do the leaked PS3 price cut and made their drop the price a week early. The guy who interviewed me about the leaks said "Sony is wanting someones head on a stick for this." But because I wasn't the original one to post it, i wont be getting legal actions againest me.

This is probably the only fight you will see major retailers and rival companies working together.

[kube00]

At least 1up.com gave us some support. I'll boycott CC for now. Good luck Cheapy in getting this resolved.

[briansraregames]

Signed

This will be a bit hit for me financially, I have made probably about $5000 off of CC this year. It will not be easy to resist, but I will no longer shop there until this mess is resolved.

[CocheseUGA]

You know, I don't think we should boycott. I think we should make their costs go up. I'll post more on this avenue when I get a few minutes.

[Derrick1979]

It's funny that all this anger is aimed at the retailers and people are not seeing the big picture that the major Game companies are using the retailers to do the dirty work for them..

They lost money, so they go to the retailers and threaten them so the retailers are left to do the work and look like the bad guys...

Boycott Sony and Microsoft

[slidecage]

Quote:
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2417820By Sony and Microsoft Author: Se7enwolfman, 08/10/2007 Actually Circuit City is only going after these guys because Sony AND microsoft is telling them to. Sony had threatened to pull all support from Circuit City if they did not take action againest me aka Se7enwolf and Speedy for posting that stuff. Sony had me fired and now they are going to be taking legal action againest Speedy and even other gaming sites who do post leaked information which includes possiblity of 1up and even joystiq.com.

Best Buy, Target and Wal-mart are also joining in on the fight.

Supposably Sony lost major amounts of money do the leaked PS3 price cut and made their drop the price a week early. The guy who interviewed me about the leaks said "Sony is wanting someones head on a stick for this." But because I wasn't the original one to post it, i wont be getting legal actions againest me.

This is probably the only fight you will see major retailers and rival companies working together.



UMMMMMM how does sony figure they lost money on the ps3 price drop news. There is no way to prove that BILLY wasnt going to go buy a ps3 for 599 but instead cause of the leak they were forced to drop it to 499


hey sony if you really want to #$#$#$ over your base who got the systems at 499 Put something in the new 599 system that isnt in the older ps3 systems and then see how many people buy your shit

the price leak didnt hurt sony one bit cause you know about every 2 years a price drop happens at E3 so $#$# sony

[Dead of Knight]

I already posted in the most current weekly thread that I'm boycotting them, so obviously, I'm in.

[Scorch]

Consider CC boycotted by me.

[godsantagonist]

i know that copyright is at the heart of the issue. these stores are protecting what is theirs, i can't fault that. this happened in previous years with fw and probably sd with the black friday ads. i believe they sorta got around this b/c they stopped posting pics, which is what was stated as being copyrighted along with the order of items, not the information. a list of items and prices is made, usually alphabetically, and not in the order of the ad.

cheapy, et al, should contact fw and sd to see what became of their issues.

this is just supposition and a suggestion.

[GrimNecroWizard]

Was about to pay $170 for a stereo installed from CC but got it from another site and have to install it my self and will have no idea how to do it haha. But fuck Circuit City.

[Wolve11]

I'm done with CC

[snoopydoggy2002]

f you circuit city

speedy you got my support a fellow cag and dvdtalker
i will help post ads on sundays if you guys need help

but for now


i boycott circuit city

[hiccupleftovers]

Everyone digg this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/CAGs_boycott_circuit_city
and this:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Circuit_City_Subpoenas_CheapAssGamer

Thanks. Dugg both and I urge more people to do the same.

[hiccupleftovers]

I for one will boycott Sony and CC :)

I've been boycotting Sony for long time now so to add CC won't be that difficult.

[Chitown021]

You know, I don't think we should boycott. I think we should make their costs go up. I'll post more on this avenue when I get a few minutes.

That's exactly what I was suggesting a few posts back. Won't it do even more damage to them financially if we were to shop there and only but the cheap ass merchandise that CC takes a loss on?

[hiccupleftovers]

Was about to pay $170 for a stereo installed from CC but got it from another site and have to install it my self and will have no idea how to do it haha. But fuck Circuit City.

Pretty much any car stereo store can install a car stereo bought from somewhere else.

[racthamp]

Well technically.. I've been boycotting Sony for a longggg time.. since their PS3 is wayyyy expensive anyway.... and for CC? Plss... they rarely have anything worthwhile.. well.. i guess, I'm in! although.. i rarely support either one of them anyway.. Dugg the Digg articles also :)

[hiccupleftovers]

Joystiq covered us also:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/cheap-ass-gamer-subpoenaed-by-circuit-city/

[chakan]

In.

I plan to make copies of my electronics/entertainment purchases that I make elsewhere and mail it to their corporate headquarters once a month.

Circuit City - Corporate Headquarters
2040 Thalbro St
Richmond, VA 23230

[slidecage]

funny thing is if someone posted

CC is clearing out alot of ps3 games for 4.99 that normal cost 49.99

99.9% of the people here calling for a boycott would be first in line buying them : )

[Chitown021]

funny thing is if someone posted

CC is clearing out alot of ps3 games for 4.99 that normal cost 49.99

99.9% of the people here calling for a boycott would be first in line buying them : )


I'd be all over it if it were some sort of computer glitch. That way I could clean up and cause them to lose a bundle in the process.

[ITDEFX]

Quote:
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2417820By Sony and Microsoft Author: Se7enwolfman, 08/10/2007 Actually Circuit City is only going after these guys because Sony AND microsoft is telling them to. Sony had threatened to pull all support from Circuit City if they did not take action againest me aka Se7enwolf and Speedy for posting that stuff. Sony had me fired and now they are going to be taking legal action againest Speedy and even other gaming sites who do post leaked information which includes possiblity of 1up and even joystiq.com.

Best Buy, Target and Wal-mart are also joining in on the fight.

Supposably Sony lost major amounts of money do the leaked PS3 price cut and made their drop the price a week early. The guy who interviewed me about the leaks said "Sony is wanting someones head on a stick for this." But because I wasn't the original one to post it, i wont be getting legal actions againest me.

This is probably the only fight you will see major retailers and rival companies working together.



UMMMMMM how does sony figure they lost money on the ps3 price drop news. There is no way to prove that BILLY wasnt going to go buy a ps3 for 599 but instead cause of the leak they were forced to drop it to 499


hey sony if you really want to #$#$#$ over your base who got the systems at 499 Put something in the new 599 system that isnt in the older ps3 systems and then see how many people buy your shit

the price leak didnt hurt sony one bit cause you know about every 2 years a price drop happens at E3 so $#$# sony


didn't I just say something like this earlier?!?!?!?


oh and for those who are trying to set up a url for boycottcc......... well I remembered there was a circuitcity suxs site out there, similar to radioshacksucks and bestbuy sucks... but I can't find it on google anymore ..hmmm.. it was there before :(

anyways if I find it, this story should go on that site, get much more attention over there and all for free :)

[SNKMat]

fuck circuitcity.

[Unickuta]

fuck circuitcity.

Well said.

[slidecage]

didn't I just say something like this earlier?!?!?!?


oh and for those who are trying to set up a url for boycottcc......... well I remembered there was a circuitcity suxs site out there, similar to radioshacksucks and bestbuy sucks... but I can't find it on google anymore ..hmmm.. it was there before :(

anyways if I find it, this story should go on that site, get much more attention over there and all for free :)

sorry didnt see your post. im too lazy to read all the replys LOL

i wonder if a place would put


sony to drop the price of the PS3 sometime between now and 2020 they would be sued cause they are hurting their business cause your leaking a price drop is coming LOL

i think sony just got tired of getting sued and they wanted to sue someone for a change : )

also someone should sue sony for releaseing naked pictures for the love of god someone buy that ps3 some pants :)

[Ranger Rick]

Are you kidding me? I just got back from vacation. WTF is going on?

[Danimal]

Are you kidding me? I just got back from vacation. WTF is going on?
http://kotaku.com/gaming/not-cheap/

Or you can hear about it on the CAGcast

[Korben]

Circuit City was my prefered electronics store ("was" key word her). This coupled with what they did to me this past week. They had an "available by 2pm" guarantee on the Boogie game for the Wii, the game was not available, the time was 6pm on the release date, and they didn't want to honor the $20 gift card, I had to talk to a manager. So they want to screw us but we'll see who really gets screwed. Bastards.

[captainfrizo]

I've never been one to boycott a store. Ever.

However, after threatening to take action against a site and a user that posts information that will eventually become public knowledge anyway (they're ads for God's sake) instead of tightening down on its own internal security to prevent such "trade secrets" from being revealed early, I've lost a good amount of respect for Circuit City.

I've been visiting CAG for quite a while now, and while I'm not the most active member here, the site's community, ownership, and money saving tactics has installed a sense of loyalty in me I didn't know I had until now.

Until this issue is resolved (read: dropped), I join the boycott.

[mikeohara]

I'll simply make one final note on my end. No, I'm not going to boycott CC.

To be completely I honest, I think this will hardly have any effect on CC.

If it was only CAGs going alone in this, I would possibly agree with you. But as someone has said previously ... Cheapy and Speedy are our brethren as it pertains to this matter, and they deserve our support no matter what. I also agree with what someone has said in a previous post (in that Cheapy should reach out to the other deal sites e.g. Fatwallet and SlickDeals and have them support a boycott through their forum communities).

Until I state otherwise, I'm in for the long haul. I've told my family and I've asked other communities that I am a part of to join the boycott (EvilAvatar and a couple of smaller sites devoted to podcasts).

Best Buy and Gamestop will get my gaming money this holiday, CC won't.

Fuck CircuitCity.

[Scorch]

Updated my avatar and tagline. Hope it catches on.

[RedvsBlue]

Hopefully this boycott is as successful as the Electronics Arts one.

[tangytangerine]

Been boycotting CC for a year now. I vowed last year after the shitty CS and inventory to never step inside a CC store again. This just throw more onto the boycott fire. Fuck CC and the lawyers they rode in on.

[Angrybeaver1]

Man I really wanted my fans edge coupon from the madden pre-order at Circuit City, but screw them..guess I'll cancel it. I'm on board.

[Danimal]

I'd love to see somebody make up some T-shirts or something. It could say "Support Speedy1961" on the front, and then in HUGE letters on the back, say "Boycott Circuit City" with Scorch's new avatar on it.

If something like that came in my extra-humongous size, I'd be all over that.

[neocisco]

http://digg.com/gaming_news/CAGs_boycott_circuit_city

[ITDEFX]

after reading a few of these threads and spending a few hours thinking about it..here are some additional thoughts..

The boycott CC will only go so far before it runs out of steam and someone else will post down the road "End of Summer clearance , 5 dollar games at CC!!" (an example mind you) with a few hundred responses and 40k views. That means CAG's are still flocking to CC even after the "BOYCOTT CC!!" campaign.

With Speedy gone these past few days, he might have either decided to STOP posting on CAG and hope things will die down and CC will leave him alone, or he is currently engaged in talks with his lawyer to see what he can do to save his skin OR CC Lawyers have already found him and told him to not to post any more cc ads and to hand over information about where he is getting his information or else be slapped with a lawsuit.

Either way, I don't think Speedy is going to fight CC/Sony... What we can do to support Speedy is to help him out financially if and when he decides to go public with his status. He could say he can't talk about it due to agreements/court order and that everything is going to be ok and thanks for all your support. We may never find out what happened on Speedy's side.
Best to keep him in your prayers and only if and when he asks for financial assistance, help the guy out with a couple of bucks or whatever you can give.

[Tsukento]

Okay, so I've read further and it turns out it IS Sony that's behind it because of being pissed over the PS3 price-drop announcement being made earlier than planned. You guys are missing the big picture that Circuit City's being pressured BY SONY to take legal action. You guys are targeting your hatred towards the wrong people.

It's likely Sony's pissed because they wanted the price drop to be announced at the same time as the discontinuation notice for the 60GB model. Remember how up in arms some people got when they found out a week later that the only reason the PS3 was dropped in price was because a bigger model was coming out for the older retail price?

[Cao Cao]

The boycott CC will only go so far before it runs out of steam and someone else will post down the road "End of Summer clearance , 5 dollar games at CC!!" (an example mind you) with a few hundred responses and 40k views. That means CAG's are still flocking to CC even after the "BOYCOTT CC!!" campaign.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070519

Might as well post the whole arc in order:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070514
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070515
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070516
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070517
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070518
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070519

[SteveDaWonder]

I like their deals too much...

Besides, I don't think Cheapy would ask us to Boycott Circut City.

[Chitown021]

And again I raise the point... Wouldn't we be doing CC a favor by boycotting? Seems to me gobbling up all the heavily discounted items would cause more damage to their bottom line. We're the type of customers that they hate. We buy the heavily discounted loss items and that's it.

[guyinga]

And again I raise the point... Wouldn't we be doing CC a favor by boycotting? Seems to me gobbling up all the heavily discounted items would cause more damage to their bottom line. We're the type of customers that they hate. We buy the heavily discounted loss items and that's it.

So, in other words, continue as you were doing, buy all their discounted items, drive them out of business.

[Chitown021]

So, in other words, continue as you were doing, buy all their discounted items, drive them out of business.

I'm definitely down with the boycott. CC and Gamestop are the two places at the top of my list of ass clown retailers. I'm just making a point based on what I've read. From what I've gathered stores like BB and CC thrive on the high profit products like their warranties and services. There was a link to a site where Best By basically called us CAGs the "devil" customers because we gobble up the loss items and buy nothing else. It seems to me that by not shopping there they lose nothing (unless a huge portion of the country joins in), if we continue to shop there buying the weekly special items they continue to lose cash.

Just an observation. Is that not correct?

[sp00ge]

As bad as it seems, CC is in the right here. When I worked at a newspaper, we had some agreement clause that we wouldn't take the ads and circulate them prior to running.

I do agree that it does help them by making consumers aware of sales that are upcoming, but it also hurts them by making customers hold off on purchasing an item at regular price so they can get teh sale price a few weeks later.

Posting the ads weeks in advance is a legal tightrope. You take a chance when you do it, as the ads are technically property of said company until they are distributed via media outlets. I took the chance myself with the TRU ads, but was fortunate enough to not get caught by the company. This time, someone got caught and is going to have to face repurcussions.

Sorry guys, but if CC continues to have good deals, I'll shop there. While I feel bad for those involved, I don't feel pity.

[neocisco]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070519

Might as well post the whole arc in order:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070514
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070515
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070516
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070517
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070518
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/retail.asp?date=20070519

It's like the cartoonist was reading my mind.

[fullmetalfan720]

I'm definitely down with the boycott. CC and Gamestop are the two places at the top of my list of ass clown retailers. I'm just making a point based on what I've read. From what I've gathered stores like BB and CC thrive on the high profit products like their warranties and services. There was a link to a site where Best By basically called us CAGs the "devil" customers because we gobble up the loss items and buy nothing else. It seems to me that by not shopping there they lose nothing (unless a huge portion of the country joins in), if we continue to shop there buying the weekly special items they continue to lose cash.

Just an observation. Is that not correct?

If we only buy clearance items from circuit city they will have it better than if we boycott them. If we buy clearance items from Circuit City they get rid of them and recieve some money for the item. However if the clearance items stay on the shelves then Circuit City recives no money and they have to clearnace the games more and more in order to sell them. Also what could happen is circuit city could not be able to see them items and then they might not have room for new items.
If people never buy anything at CC then they will have to clearnace everything and lose more money.

[youruglyclone]

has speedy said anything in regards to this situation?

[Blackout]

I don't buy full price anything at CC (only clearanced games). Not going there until this gets resolved. No one fucks with CAG and our members. :D

Wouldn't Microsoft also be pissed (if the Sony thing is true) about console price drops? I know there's been a lot of threads on new 360 models being cheaper, etc. Is this just Sony hate or is Microsoft in on this too? Because basically the same thing that happened with PS3 sure as hell probably happened with 360.

[fullmetalfan720]

has speedy said anything in regards to this situation?

Yes, he has said something on dvdtalk
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=105 (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8052744&postcount=105)

[Tsukento]

Thing is that Microsoft wasn't planning on canning any of their models of the 360 with the price drops. Sony, however, was.

[Demolition Man]

Thing is that Microsoft wasn't planning on canning any of their models of the 360 with the price drops. Sony, however, was.

Isn't there rumors of the cooler chips coming soon along with HDMI on the core and premium units? Not that this affects the pricing but still.... if these changes are done then technically Microsoft is canning the current models on the market.

[Scotty P]

Haha, Circuit = CompUSA five years ago. Hanging on for dear life in a market where they're insanely outclassed.

After what they did to my laptop that I'm not going into, and now seeing this, I'm glad that I can continue my 8 month ongoing boycott of the place indefinitely.

Circuit City: the first credit card I ever shredded :D

[Ub3rChief]

I only buy the really cheap stuff from CC anyway, but yeah, I'm down with this boycott.

Figures it was $ony pulling the strings. Still, CC decided to roll with them.

I've hated Fony for years and this only adds an assload of straw to an already broken camel's back.

[Demolition Man]

You know you can say Sony around here.

[Terabyte7]

This really made up my mind whether to apply for a job at Circuit City or not...

On another note...I say we all make t-shirts that read "Free Speedy" and walk around CC wearing them. :)

[sasukekun]

To be honest, I've never really liked CC. Their customer service is terrible. Every time I go there I always have a problem with coupons or their own store ad. The point card thing was the last straw for me.

[godsantagonist]

this is sooooooooo amusing. how many personas on here are of an age to even vote, and yet they feel "compelled to boycott to save their brethren"? this is just like the vitriolic criticism of xbscene by neogaf for using their pics of opened 360's, but worse. worse in that the stolen material is copyrighted. cag would protect their name, podcasts, images and the people would jump on the bandwagon for cag. why not circuit city?

this is a new electronic age that the laws of the past weren't made for. this is new territory for everyone and circuit city is just protecting their own. again, this problem has been broached years ago with fatwallet. the pictures are copyrighted!

i hope that peaceful accords can be reached. also, hopefully a workaround can occur. perhaps just items listed with price but in alphabetical order, not the ad order.

ps it is rumored that sony, et al. are behind this...circuit city is bowing to pressure also.

[Don Chubo]

Yes, it is funny to witness all of this saber-rattling. This "boycott" will be a matter of convenience for most - when a deal comes out that has CC with the lowest price, many will still be there at CC with cash in hand.

[tinyandi]

EVERYONE, email them and let them know what you think: PR_Director@circuitcity.com


Here's a sample letter:


For many years I have been dissatisfied with Circuit City. Recently, when I visit the store on a new release day, I am often unable to locate the new release because the employees have not unpacked the boxes. If I cannot find the DVD or video game I am looking for, I search for an employee who often avoids helping me or finally pulls out the DVD or video game from a box behind the counter. This should not happen.


To checkout, I must now visit customer service, even though there are plenty of cash registers. I know that the clerks used to ring up my purchase there, but they no long seem to be allowed to do this. At customer service, the checkout process is excruciatingly slow--especially for someone who is only purchasing one item. I could understand a slow checkout for a big ticket item, but it should not take more than ten to fifteen minutes to ring up my DVD or video game. I know from experience that checkout at Target and Best Buy that their checkout process is quite efficient. As to any free gift with purchase advertised in your ad, most often than not your employees attempt to argue with me that I am wrong. At this point, I must produce your ad to show them that I am correct.


To give you an example of my latest experience at Circuit City, I went in to purchase a portable DVD player. I selected a DVD player but was told by one of your clerks that they no longer had that DVD player in stock. Nonetheless, your employee told me that there was another Circuit City nearby that had it stock, so I agreed to purchase it. I asked her to confirm that the player was in fact in stock at the other Circuit City and she said I had nothing to worry about. Nonetheless, the next day (after driving for 45 minutes one-way), I found out that the other Circuit City DID NOT have the DVD portable player in stock. I had to get a refund on both the portable DVD player and the service plan. That day, Best Buy got my business.


The highlights of any given visit to Circuit City include not being able to locate the item I'm seeking, poor customer service, and a painfully slow checkout. Thus, I made the choice a few months back to stop shopping at Circuit City because I was left feeling like your company was trying to discourage my business. So if Circuit City offered a lower price in their ad on any given week, I took my ad to Best Buy or Wal-Mart because any one of these stores would match the price, offer better customer service, and a faster checkout.

Within the last few months, I've followed the forums on DVDtalk.com and CheapAssGamer.com. I appreciated the posts that listed the comparison prices of different retailers. Because of these posts, I decided to return to Circuit City—in fact, I made more purchases at Circuit City than I ever had in the past (only because I realized through the ads that Circuit City often offered the best prices). While none of my previous problems with CircuitCity had been resolved, I continued to tough it out and keep shopping there. Within the last few months, I have purchased a 1080p DLP Television, several video games, several blu-rays, among other things from Circuit City.


However, as a consumer I have a choice to make: I could spend the exact same amount of money on these items at Best Buy, Target, or CircuitCity because no one company offers a lower price than the others. T hanks to Circuit City's decision to instigate a legal matter against DVDtalk.com, CheapAssGamer.com, and especially against the user named Speedy1961 about posting the ads ahead of time, I will no longer purchase any items from Circuit City and will encourage all family members and friends to do the same.

Due to the fact that Circuit City has shut down people who shared the ad ahead of time and for all of the other factors listed above, I feel like I can no longer give you my business. The poster in question did you a favor by driving business to your store. Having knowledge of your prices ahead of time helped me make an informed decision about how to budget my entertainment purchases. I'll still have that knowledge from the Sunday ads, but Circuit City will no longer gert my business because of their attack on DVDtalk.com, CheapAssGamer.com and Speedy1961. If the ads will no longer be allowed to be posted ahead of time, I will not continue to shop at your store.


Best,

[Your name]
__________________

[fullmetalfan720]

this is sooooooooo amusing. how many personas on here are of an age to even vote, and yet they feel "compelled to boycott to save their brethren"? this is just like the vitriolic criticism of xbscene by neogaf for using their pics of opened 360's, but worse. worse in that the stolen material is copyrighted. cag would protect their name, podcasts, images and the people would jump on the bandwagon for cag. why not circuit city?

this is a new electronic age that the laws of the past weren't made for. this is new territory for everyone and circuit city is just protecting their own. again, this problem has been broached years ago with fatwallet. the pictures are copyrighted!

i hope that peaceful accords can be reached. also, hopefully a workaround can occur. perhaps just items listed with price but in alphabetical order, not the ad order.

ps it is rumored that sony, et al. are behind this...circuit city is bowing to pressure also.
If this is all over copyright as you say then Circuit City would have no case. What speedy posted of their ads can be considered "fair use" and therefore CC would have no case. However this is not about that. This is about Circuit City being mad at speedy for "lost sales."
Also if you do not stick up for anyone then you will not have anyone help you in your time of need.

Yes, it is funny to witness all of this saber-rattling. This "boycott" will be a matter of convenience for most - when a deal comes out that has CC with the lowest price, many will still be there at CC with cash in hand.

Some people may do that but I will not and I'm sure other people will not either.

[Doomed]

Some people may do that but I will not and I'm sure other people will not either.

I won't. My CC is something like a warehouse outlet. Don't even know if it's anything besides employees. Haven't shopped there since Feb 2004.

[camoor]

On reflection, I'm pretty sure this action is orchestrated by Sony (rather then CC)

Hopefully CC is just going through the paces to look busy, and will let the matter quietly drop.

[skid]

I haven't bought from Circuit City in years, so I'll just keep on doing so.

[godsantagonist]

If this is all over copyright as you say then Circuit City would have no case. What speedy posted of their ads can be considered "fair use" and therefore CC would have no case. However this is not about that. This is about Circuit City being mad at speedy for "lost sales."
Also if you do not stick up for anyone then you will not have anyone help you in your time of need.


incorrect, but thank you for playing (jk). fair use of the information, perhaps, but the ad with pics, arrangement, etc, etc. is not. at least 2-3 years ago. again, i am basing this on what happened to fw and the black friday ads. it might have changed, or been wrong. we cannot know until someone involved speaks to the charge(s) levied. and that probably won't happen for a while, if ever. i am not a legal adviser, but trying to give a different perspective.

[Seventh]

/signed.

FOCK CC!!!

[unicron129]

Circuit City isn't a good electronic store period. Best Buy has way better employee's. I just plain hate the feeling of going into circuit city all the employee's are in one corner talking. What kind of service is that? Circuit City is already in bad shape so even if we don't have THAT much of an impact they will still be slightly affected and thats all that matters. Oh yea and FUCK circuit city.

[fullmetalfan720]

incorrect, but thank you for playing (jk). fair use of the information, perhaps, but the ad with pics, arrangement, etc, etc. is not. at least 2-3 years ago. again, i am basing this on what happened to fw and the black friday ads. it might have changed, or been wrong. we cannot know until someone involved speaks to the charge(s) levied. and that probably won't happen for a while, if ever. i am not a legal adviser, but trying to give a different perspective.

But he didn't post pic or the arrangement. 2 or so pages out of a 30+ page ad can be considered "fair use." However even direct copies of the pages can be "fair use" depending on the situation.

[godsantagonist]

But he didn't post pic or the arrangement. 2 or so pages out of a 30+ page ad can be considered "fair use." However even direct copies of the pages can be "fair use" depending on the situation.

well, again, we will probably never know. i guess we'll see if speedy has a good enough legal fund to fight "fair use".

it would probably be better to donate to a defense fund than to boycott circuit city. a "win" in the leagal system will go a lot farther than the boycott and really hurt circuit city, sony, et al.

[PrarieD0G]

I signed up for digg and dugg the articles, heh.

CC sucks.

[tinyandi]

well, again, we will probably never know. i guess we'll see if speedy has a good enough legal fund to fight "fair use".

it would probably be better to donate to a defense fund than to boycott circuit city. a "win" in the leagal system will go a lot farther than the boycott and really hurt circuit city, sony, et al.

If enough letters clog this circuit city email address (all threatening to boycott the store pending the resolution of this case), we can at least speed the process along.

Please, take 2 minutes out of your day and write a letter to CC. You owe Speedy that much.

So please, email PR_Director@circuitcity.com (PR_Director@circuitcity.com) !!!

[karkyco]

I'm sure Speedy and/or Cheapy have already done so, but if not the EFF Electronic Freedom Foundation needs to be notified. I'm sure this is a situation/case they would be interested in investigating and assisting with any legal related issues and defense.

[SteveDaWonder]

I really honestly think unless CheapyD and/or Speedy call for a boycott, or think it would be a good idea, we shouldn't.

[tinyandi]

I really honestly think unless CheapyD and/or Speedy call for a boycott, or think it would be a good idea, we shouldn't.

Not everyone needs to boycott. But everyone should write a letter to CC explaining their support of Speedy and their dislike of CC's actions.

[sp00ge]

well, again, we will probably never know. i guess we'll see if speedy has a good enough legal fund to fight "fair use".

it would probably be better to donate to a defense fund than to boycott circuit city. a "win" in the leagal system will go a lot farther than the boycott and really hurt circuit city, sony, et al.

Even still, he took what would be considered 'inside information' (ad details weeks/months in advance) and distributed to the public.

Fair use wouldn't apply to information not meant to be made public until the date designated by the ad.

[GF_Eric]

I just don't see how you can be mad at CC. I don't want speedy to get in trouble, but he was doing something wrong, and they finally caught on. That is why he was a CAG hero - He knew the risks and did it anyway. Boycotting CC or getting all pissy because MS or Sony is somehow behind it (and bravo for them for not wanting every damn announcement they have spoiled weeks in advance ...) doesn't help anything.

[karkyco]

All speedy really needs to do from this point on to ensure they can't come after him is to list perhaps come up with a code for each company, or a form of disclaimer. Then simply list items by category, say alphabetically, or whatnot, and absolutely no pics of the ads.

One method another site used during the Black Friday fiasco a couple years ago was to make up a parody name of the company that was threatening legal action.

Say, call Circuit City "Chip Town", Best Buy "Good Price", and Target "Bullseye"

Then just say something like "I had a dream about a sale at Bullseye, and in the dream, the following were the sale prices:

Game X $40
DVD Y $10 etc.

Hell, he could just put a disclaimer saying "I am psychic, here is what I see for pricing for the week of September X"

[fullmetalfan720]

Even still, he took what would be considered 'inside information' (ad details weeks/months in advance) and distributed to the public.

Fair use wouldn't apply to information not meant to be made public until the date designated by the ad.

Fair use could still apply on that. However circuit city could try to sue speedy for damages from loss of sales or something else.

[godsantagonist]

Fair use could still apply on that. However circuit city could try to sue speedy for damages from loss of sales or something else.

#4 says it all...
from http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html :

"Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the
reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

1.the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission."


but there may be ways to post information based upon this:
"Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work."

again, like the link suggests, seek an attorney if you are unsure. i am posting for enlightenment, not as advice.

[captainfrizo]

I really honestly think unless CheapyD and/or Speedy call for a boycott, or think it would be a good idea, we shouldn't.

I've got a ton of respect for Cheapy and appreciate what Speedy does for this site, but if we chose to boycott CC over this issue (or any issue for that matter) it's really up to us, the consumer.

If Cheapy doesn't feel like this boycott is in the site's best interest given the circumstances he could (and hopefully would) lock the thread, delete it, and make a request not to have a similar thread started up.

With approval or without approval, CC will not be getting my business until this is dropped, and even then they may not get business from me because of other issues/complaints I have.

[fullmetalfan720]

#4 says it all...
from http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html :

"Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the
reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

1.the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission."


but there may be ways to post information based upon this:
"Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work."

again, like the link suggests, seek an attorney if you are unsure. i am posting for enlightenment, not as advice.
The ad has no market value so therefore fair use can apply. Ultimatly though the interpetation falls into a judge or jury's hands.

[Terabyte7]

Fair use could still apply on that. However circuit city could try to sue speedy for damages from loss of sales or something else.

To sue him for loss of sales, they would have to prove the loss os a specific $ amount due to people waiting to buy somethng because they knew it was going to go on sale. Which is impossible since sales by their very nature are designed to bring shoppers into the store to buy things they might otherwise not have. And beyond that, if we didn't know that it was going to be on sale, and bought it a week early, we could just take it back in and get the difference back anyway. So CC has actually gained from the fact that we knew to wait and buy it there, rather than buy it earlier and possibly somewhere else.

[wckddudeman]

Does anyone else remember speedy not saying what the big announcement was until a few other sites started dropping the ball? I believe he said a big surprise come 'wednesday' or something like that but when a few other sites reported it with ads he caved and told everyone. (I know this is out of the bounds of the thread but...)

[greatscot]

I think he could certainly argue the news reporting exception under the statute. Also point out a small portion of the ad as a whole was reported, no pictures, etc. That would be a fun case to try.

Good luck on Circuit City being able to prove damages too. Even if they succeed on the merits, that could be one of those infamous $1 verdicts.

I can see this scenario popping in law school classes in the coming years.

[adidas]

Heres the problem Everyone bought out all the playstation 3's before they had the ad so when they had the ad they were out of stock. So it makes it look like false advertising and people complained. Second thing it gave microsoft a heads up.
So that's why you had the Xbox price drop. It was sopouse to be a suprise and catch microsoft off guard,
Circuit City doesnt want this to happen again. There's no tolerance for leakage of this in this world.
So They putting a stop to this.
You got to look for the consumer stand point. They see the ad and go to the store and don't see the product because its been sold out the week before in case with playstation 3.
My friend works at Circuit City and they deal with Fake 40$ coupons price matches rude customers. Its gotta stop and hes has to tell customers no thats not right..
In the end go to the place that gave you better service.
In the end We can boycott every place Walmart, Best Buy, Target, but in todays society There's no reason for people to boycott if you werent affected..
So Circuit City is done with ads that are leaked and its gotta stop at some point!
Now people want to say Circuit City is the bad one???
Give me a break
They advertise on the Cheap ass gamer only to have people leak info. So look at it from Circuit CItys point of view

[captainfrizo]

So look at it from Circuit CItys point of view

Alright, I looked at it from Circuit City's point of view and it didn't do anything to change my position on this matter and other complaints I have against them - until something changes over there (dropping this case against Speedy would be a good first start) they won't be getting any more of my business.

Awesome grammar and formatting in your post, by the way.

[Terabyte7]

Heres the problem Everyone bought out all the playstation 3's before they had the ad so when they had the ad they were out of stock. So it makes it look like false advertising and people complained. Second thing it gave microsoft a heads up.
So that's why you had the Xbox price drop. It was sopouse to be a suprise and catch microsoft off guard,


First of all, I've been in retail a long time, and it is common practice to hold back merchandise for an upcoming ad to guarantee that it is in stock when the ad breaks. So if CC sold them all before the ad broke, that's their own damn fault.

Second of all, it would be foolish to assume that Microsoft didn't know about the price drop well before it happened. These things are planned months or more in advance! I've seen on several occasions when competing systems dropped on the same day! The president of Sony didn't wake up one day and say "Hey, I think I'll lower the price of the PS3 today to catch Microsoft off guard. Now for my morning bowl of Cheerios. Yippee!".

Thirdly, assuming that Speedy is a CC employee, the most that CC can due to him is fire him for violating his contract. He broke no actual laws. But if all the CAGs want to band together and boycot CC for their treatment of this incident, not to mention their flimsy attempt to get Speedy's identity from Cheapy D, then it is certainly their right to do so. And I applaud them and join them for sticking up for a fellow member of this community. Besides, we're CAGs...we can still take advantage of CC's sales by PGing them elsewhere!

Oh, and by the way, the CC in my area has lousy customer service and generally unknowledgable employees, but I would still go in there for some of the sales. Used to anyway...

[ratzombie]

I'm not buying a damn thing from CC because of this, their loss as I was going to buy a 360 from them in the coming weeks.

[guyinga]

Heres the problem Everyone bought out all the playstation 3's before they had the ad so when they had the ad they were out of stock. So it makes it look like false advertising and people complained. Second thing it gave microsoft a heads up.
So that's why you had the Xbox price drop. It was sopouse to be a suprise and catch microsoft off guard,
Circuit City doesnt want this to happen again. There's no tolerance for leakage of this in this world.
So They putting a stop to this.
You got to look for the consumer stand point. They see the ad and go to the store and don't see the product because its been sold out the week before in case with playstation 3.
My friend works at Circuit City and they deal with Fake 40$ coupons price matches rude customers. Its gotta stop and hes has to tell customers no thats not right..
In the end go to the place that gave you better service.
In the end We can boycott every place Walmart, Best Buy, Target, but in todays society There's no reason for people to boycott if you werent affected..
So Circuit City is done with ads that are leaked and its gotta stop at some point!
Now people want to say Circuit City is the bad one???
Give me a break
They advertise on the Cheap ass gamer only to have people leak info. So look at it from Circuit CItys point of view

If it's so 'tough' for Circuit City, they can do one thing: Not have their weekly circular ads. It'll reduce their costs and reduce their headaches. Sure, they'll lose sales and revenues.

I still don't understand how the leak is bad from a business standpoint. Maybe intellectual property or 'fair use,' but not from a business standpoint. If more people found out about the ad a week before it was released, people come in and want to buy a PS3 and they buy a PS3, then isn't that a good thing? What is the problem?

I'm starting to wonder if CC employees were complaining to CC when the ad was leaked. They have customers coming in asking about the PS3 price drop and trying to buy it right then and there. As we know, CC got rid of about 3400 employees, so morale may just be a little low. CC employees don't want to work any harder than they have to (judging by most people's experiences with their stores), so they say stuff like "you weren't suppose to find out about that" to those customers asking about the PS3 price drop and prevent the sale even though it would mean business and money. The customers then leave and go to Best Buy, who doesn't care and sell them the products anyway. The CC employees then complain to CC and claiming to do something about the ad leak or there wouldn't be any CC store employees any longer. CC then see the loss of business and go "OMG, we're losing $$$$! Why?" The employees say, "It's because of the ad getting out early." The question is then asked, "Who leaked the ad?" even though it may be their employees' fault or CC's fault for the loss of business.

If supplies are low according to your argument, wouldn't that mean *gasp* it's CC's fault for not planning/anticipating consumer demand? And I guess I should feel sorry for them if there are sold out and they have to spend a few grand to order more PS3's to sell. Silly me for thinking the point of a business is to make money regardless of whether there are ad leaks or not.

[SilverPaw750]

I don't think a boycott is necessary at all. I won't be shopping there as much naturally, since now I don't know the deals ahead of time, but a full-on boycott is not what is needed to show the internet community's right and/or reason.

That doesn't mean I don't support speedy, just that I don't think it made the world stop turning and made me turn to activism.

[tinyandi]

I don't think a boycott is necessary at all. I won't be shopping there as much naturally, since now I don't know the deals ahead of time, but a full-on boycott is not what is needed to show the internet community's right and/or reason.

That doesn't mean I don't support speedy, just that I don't think it made the world stop turning and made me turn to activism.

Although I appreciate the exchange of ideas as to whether a boycott is necessary or not, I'd like to remind you all that the point (or spirit) of this thread is to make our voice heard to Circuit City. If boycotting is not the right method, what is? Let's be pro-active and think of solutions (rather than just debate the one solution that has been proposed).

1) Letter-writing? Then try:
George Danny Clark
Executive Vice President & President of Circuit City-Retail Stores
c/o Circuit City Corporate Office
9950 Mayland Drive
Richmond, VA 23233
2) E-mailing? (Try PR_Director@circuitcity.com :-$)
3) Exposure to the media?
Try: TechNews@MSNBC.com or business@MSNBC.com
4) Legal fund?

It's so easy to sit at home, within the comfort of an annonymous avatar, without taking a pro-active stance. If you choose not to boycott (which is understandable), at least think of a way you can contribute to this whole debacle.

[neocisco]

Thirdly, assuming that Speedy is a CC employee, the most that CC can due to him is fire him for violating his contract. He broke no actual laws. But if all the CAGs want to band together and boycot CC for their treatment of this incident, not to mention their flimsy attempt to get Speedy's identity from Cheapy D, then it is certainly their right to do so. And I applaud them and join them for sticking up for a fellow member of this community. Besides, we're CAGs...we can still take advantage of CC's sales by PGing them elsewhere!

I'm fairly certain Speedy doesn't work for CC. I have a few ideas about his employment but I'll keep them to myself. I don't want to add to his troubles.

[Punk_Raven]

Hmm. No one here can tell me why it is so wrong for a company to not want it's ads to be revealed to the public before a set date. No matter if Speedy is your brotheren (sp) or not, he's in the wrong. Doens't matter if it's bad for business or not, I'm positive that the ads are released on Sunday for a reason and they have a right to have them seen by the public when they want. And I don't want to see CAG go down for his actions. I want them to find him and do what they need to do, so CAG can't catch the flak. Oh, and about how CC should try to make it so this information isn't leaked instead of getting on Speedy for this...Speedy can easily pass the buck by pointing them to his sources. Not hard.

[happy]

It's not so simple that Speedy is wrong. Because a company doesn't want something known does not mean it is wrong to release that information. If CC had evidence that business was harmed by the early posting of ads they may have a claim, but because they offer the 30 day price match and the ads are not posted over 30 days in advance they can't reasonably make any substantial claim for damages.

The only real issue I can see is that Sony probably had the companies sign statements that they would not announce the price drop early, and Speedy effectively caused CC to violate that contract. Even in this case the responsibility is not with Speedy because he would not have been bound by the contract, and CC must have known that the ads are printed so many weeks in advance and the risks that printing the price drop so early would entail.

Unless it turns out that Speedy works for these companies, I have a hard time seeing CCs logic (I know when I worked for target we were forbidden from revealing sales early, not that I knew of any).

[masterofdarkness]

If anyone has a facebook join the group:
http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=18148381032

[sp00ge]

It's not so simple that Speedy is wrong. Because a company doesn't want something known does not mean it is wrong to release that information. If CC had evidence that business was harmed by the early posting of ads they may have a claim, but because they offer the 30 day price match and the ads are not posted over 30 days in advance they can't reasonably make any substantial claim for damages.

The only real issue I can see is that Sony probably had the companies sign statements that they would not announce the price drop early, and Speedy effectively caused CC to violate that contract. Even in this case the responsibility is not with Speedy because he would not have been bound by the contract, and CC must have known that the ads are printed so many weeks in advance and the risks that printing the price drop so early would entail.

Unless it turns out that Speedy works for these companies, I have a hard time seeing CCs logic (I know when I worked for target we were forbidden from revealing sales early, not that I knew of any).

The printing companies and distribution outlets (newspapers, etc) are also bound by this privacy/no-leak clause, not just CC.

No matter where the ads originated from, someone along the chain is to be held liable. If he won't give up his source, he can potentially be held liable, not that he definitely will be.

I know this for a fact about outlets. I used to be a production supervisor for the Desert Sun in Palm Springs, and we had to sign an agreement to not distribute or share information on uncirculated sales. I admit that I took ads from time-to-time, but they were for my own personal use, so I knew what sales were upcoming. Had I distributed and got caught, I would've been held liable.

[Korben]

...They had an "available by 2pm" guarantee on the Boogie game for the Wii, the game was not available, the time was 6pm on the release date, and they didn't want to honor the $20 gift card, I had to talk to a manager.
Some dirt on CC. I just found out that despite the gift card guarantee after at least the first day of release the staff will lie to customers about the game not being recieved in stock and just say they sold out. Isn't that somehow illegal?

[neocisco]

I've been reading up on this, and I'm sorry that Circuit City is doing this to these people. I sure hope my company doesn't do this stuff to me.

I hope to be able to bring you ads for my company in advance to make up for the lack of CC ads. I think you'll find our prices are very competitive with theirs.

Your company being...what? Crazy Ray's Electronics Extravaganza? More info, less cloak and dagger.

[sp00ge]

Your company being...what? Crazy Ray's Electronics Extravaganza? More info, less cloak and dagger.

I predict........ incoming spam!

[guyinga]

Your company being...what? Crazy Ray's Electronics Extravaganza? More info, less cloak and dagger.

Judging by the guy's user name, it is most likely Spatula City. They like spatulas so much, they bought the company!

[mail5009645]

They're really just as shitty as best buy. If only there was a decent electronics shop here in the states! :roll:

[speedy1961]

Good luck Speedy... just don't give up on us!

I never have although there are some who now see fit to vilify me as some mad criminal mastermind.

A Cease & Decist would have worked rather nicely in this instance but CC is "demanding" a witch-burning on this one.

And lest we forget, I had been doing this reporting type thing for 2 years with none of the Big 3 complaining.

It's bad enough that I have to move. :cry:

[CocheseUGA]

I never have although there are some who now see fit to vilify me as some mad criminal mastermind.

A Cease & Decist would have worked rather nicely in this instance but CC is "demanding" a witch-burning on this one.

And lest we forget, I had been doing this reporting type thing for 2 years with none of the Big 3 complaining.

It's bad enough that I have to move. :(

Glad to see you're still here. Add me to AIM when you get a chance.

[guyinga]

I got an e-mail from "Customer Care Service" after I complained to Circuit City on the CC website. Basically telling me 'they can't comment on pending litigation" and how they're focused on their 'shareholders' (or lack thereof) for the company. I imagine a LOT of people have been complaining to them to warrant a comment, keep it up!

[RaPtOrsIII]

They're really just as shitty as best buy. If only there was a decent electronics shop here in the states! :roll:

i thought it was called Frys or Meijers that we dont have up in the Northeast

[irishsoccermbw]

i returned the tv i bought at CC after reading this thread, then went to best buy and got the thing (not on sale) for cheaper. Fuck CC man thats a load of shit

[Surferflames]

Not boycotting, simply because I don't shop there to begin with. After going to their hiring session and them pawning off the "you don't have to know anything about the product, just sell it" speech, I decided then not to give them any of my money. Plus the ones here never have anything worthwhile anyway.

[electronicmaji]

Shitty as Best Buy? Well Best Buy has always been great to me. Heck I brought a iPod and got a 3 year warranty; good thing too because I had to have it replaced 3 times because I accidentally left them in my pants.....and they went throught the wash...in fact the last time I got it replaced they gave ME money because the price of the 2gb version had dropped!


Anyways the circuit city here is small dirty and dingy and never been there once in me life.

[Punk_Raven]

Hmm, I in know way support this cause, however I'd like to request a traditional " Calvin peeing on logo of company " ( in this case circuit city ) avatar or signature if anyone can make it.

[ITDEFX]

I never have although there are some who now see fit to vilify me as some mad criminal mastermind.

A Cease & Decist would have worked rather nicely in this instance but CC is "demanding" a witch-burning on this one.

And lest we forget, I had been doing this reporting type thing for 2 years with none of the Big 3 complaining.

It's bad enough that I have to move. :cry:


whoa I didn't notice this response til now. I am sorry to hear that a C&D order wasn't given instead. That would have been a slap on the wrist but some fuck heads at CC and Sony Corp. want someone to burn...and that's not nice to pick on the little guy like that. I really hope they just leave you alone as you got the message (rudely I may add :( ).

CC just needs to fucking grow up... just cause BB is making more money then them it doesn't mean that they have to start bitching everytime something like this happens.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

This really made up my mind whether to apply for a job at Circuit City or not...

On another note...I say we all make t-shirts that read "Free Speedy" and walk around CC wearing them. :)

I pondered having several different types of shirts made up a while ago, including the following:

For use when going to Gamestop: "An opened game CANNOT BE CONSIDERED NEW!! "

For when going to Circuit City: "One of (number of fired long time employees), boycott Circuit City!"

I also thought of making a shirt that simply said CAGs site with this slogan on the back: "WHY pay retail for your games and movies?" But, I figured that it might attract more FW type hoarders here, so I didn't do it.

Of course, I WASN'T one of the long time CC employees, so I wouldn't dare wear a shirt like that, but THAT is the reason I stopped shopping there.

Although, just recently, I PM'd a receipt from Best Buy when I bought a copy of the God Of War II guide for a penny at one of their stores.

Now, imagine if anyone who bought a copy of that guide from BB were to PM and buy up ALL of CC's copies of the same guide for a cent each? $17.98 per book in losses EACH.

Multiply that by even 100k copies and that's almost 2 mil in losses. :-D Just an idea....not that it'll work, since you'll get the 'we're not gonna PM something for a penny' employees like I got the last couple times. But, it's worth a shot and a way to 'stick it to them' that would probably work better than an all out boycott.

Shitty as Best Buy? Well Best Buy has always been great to me. Heck I brought a iPod and got a 3 year warranty; good thing too because I had to have it replaced 3 times because I accidentally left them in my pants.....and they went throught the wash

How the HELL do you forget an Ipod not once, not twice but three fuckin times in your pants? All of my expensive electronic gadgets are always well looked after and I've never forgotten anything(outside of the usual pocket change or in one or two instances a pack of gum)in my pocket before tossing my clothes in the wash.

[timiddy]

I'd like to point out, as an employee of Circuit City, that I've never heard management complain about any of this... It seems to only be a few whiners up in corporate. Boycotting all the CC retail stores will honestly accomplish very little-- Contacting corporate is the way to go.

Each store is run by different people... some are really shitty, but the store I work at doesn't warrant a lot of the complaints I hear. We're well trained, encouraged to learn more about the products we sell, and we generally love to make our customers happy. Sure, we're a business, but our store chose to not sacrifice customer service and common decency. I honestly only chose to work here due to the service I received as a customer. And no, this hasn't hurt us...we're consistantly number one in practically everything for our region.


So if your CC is shitty, shop at a store with good customer service in your area: BB, a better CC, or a smaller retailer. Support stores that deserve it. Blanket statements like "CC sucks!" just shows how ignorant people can be. I certainly wouldn't want to help someone with an attitude like that in my store (Although I would anyway :).)

If you're pissed about this situation, like I am, write to corporate! Don't punish those employees (like me!) who really enjoy helping and educating customers.

[ITDEFX]

I pondered having several different types of shirts made up a while ago, including the following:

For use when going to Gamestop: "An opened game CANNOT BE CONSIDERED NEW!! "


You should change it to, a used title should be marked 50% off a brand new current title... NOT 5 bucks off, when the poor bastard who traded it in got 10 bucks for it while you sell it for 3 times that much USED.

[RedvsBlue]

They're really just as shitty as best buy. If only there was a decent electronics shop here in the states! :roll:
Fry's really is the premiere electronics store. I went to the one in Sacramento when I was on vacation and you can't even imagine how amazing that place is. Its too bad that they haven't expanded beyond the southern and western US but then again with an increase in size its likely that they could go the way of Best Buy and Circuit City and just be yet another mega-corporation...

[ITDEFX]

No Fry's in my area :( so I am SOL.

[Janaak]

Fry's really is the premiere electronics store. I went to the one in Sacramento when I was on vacation and you can't even imagine how amazing that place is. Its too bad that they haven't expanded beyond the southern and western US but then again with an increase in size its likely that they could go the way of Best Buy and Circuit City and just be yet another mega-corporation...

It's funny that you say that because that same Fry's does suck in the customer service area, when looking for CDs, DVDs, games... But for bigger priced items, hell you got the attention of a rockstar... Now that I live in between the San Jose & Sacramento Fry's, I tend to head out to the SJ Fry's... Items are usually at the same price and I dont feel like I'm out of place there...

[Jlong1002]

Alright, we all know that Bioshock is gonna be a big game and I'm sure many on this board will be buying it. Looking at the ads, if you want to buy it at a BM it looks like Circuit City has the best deal. I encourage EVERYONE to price match it at a competitor, and send an email or letter to circuit city telling them you did it. With the recent legal actions taken against the almighty Speedy, we need to unite in a boycott. With price matching this can easily be done. I also suggest that we start some kind of petition online, that states if any legal action is taken against Speedy we will no longer shop at their stores and anytime they have a better deal on something we will price match it somewhere else. Encourage you friends, family, other forums, and anyone who will listen to do the same. Granted this won't have any immediate results, but between this site, FW, SD, and other sites we can make our anger heard and felt. We need to let them know that they have woken the sleeping giant that is the consumer. :bomb:

[getmyrunon]

In for 3.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

Just buy it from amazon, no tax

[hhhdx4]

My God He May Be On To Something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jlong1002]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/SaveSpeedy (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/SaveSpeedy)

[KingofOldSchool]

Online petitions suck.

[KingofOldSchool]

You should change it to, a used title should be marked 50% off a brand new current title... NOT 5 bucks off, when the poor bastard who traded it in got 10 bucks for it while you sell it for 3 times that much USED.

For every moron who will accept $10 for a copy of Bioshock that was only played once, another moron will come in and buy that same copy of Bioshock for $54.99 just to save a couple of bucks.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

For every moron who will accept $10 for a copy of Bioshock that was only played once, another moron will come in and buy that same copy of Bioshock for $54.99 just to save a couple of bucks.

That's NOT me, though I guess many just don't give a fuck, since I offered the one guy who was getting $15 in trade credit for God Of War II $20 for it CASH on the spot right IN a Gamestop LAST weekend. He said NO and went to look for a game or two for the 360 he was getting with the credit from his games and the extra $$$ he was gonna be paying on TOP of that.

Ahhh well...I'm just annoyed that I didn't have the patience to wait for a copy of The Godfather for Xbox, since I think it's like $9 @ TRU now. I paid $36ish from Gamestop when I had an assload of credit. Mind ya, I only bought it used because that way EA doesn't get a fuckin dime of my money, even though the equally evil Gamestop gets it all.

[KingofOldSchool]

That's NOT me, though I guess many just don't give a fuck, since I offered the one guy who was getting $15 in trade credit for God Of War II $20 for it CASH on the spot right IN a Gamestop LAST weekend. He said NO and went to look for a game or two for the 360 he was getting with the credit from his games and the extra $$$ he was gonna be paying on TOP of that.

Ahhh well...I'm just annoyed that I didn't have the patience to wait for a copy of The Godfather for Xbox, since I think it's like $9 @ TRU now. I paid $36ish from Gamestop when I had an assload of credit. Mind ya, I only bought it used because that way EA doesn't get a fuckin dime of my money, even though the equally evil Gamestop gets it all.

I'm just glad at times I'm such a tight wad that I balk at sales GS has (like the B2G1 Used game sale they had a while back).

I laugh when I go in and see a used copy of Harvest Moon DS for $29.99 when I can goto Best Buy and get a new copy for $9.99.

[cdrw123]

cc already bc

[electronicmaji]

I pondered having several different types of shirts made up a while ago, including the following:

For use when going to Gamestop: "An opened game CANNOT BE CONSIDERED NEW!! "

For when going to Circuit City: "One of (number of fired long time employees), boycott Circuit City!"

I also thought of making a shirt that simply said CAGs site with this slogan on the back: "WHY pay retail for your games and movies?" But, I figured that it might attract more FW type hoarders here, so I didn't do it.

Of course, I WASN'T one of the long time CC employees, so I wouldn't dare wear a shirt like that, but THAT is the reason I stopped shopping there.

Although, just recently, I PM'd a receipt from Best Buy when I bought a copy of the God Of War II guide for a penny at one of their stores.

Now, imagine if anyone who bought a copy of that guide from BB were to PM and buy up ALL of CC's copies of the same guide for a cent each? $17.98 per book in losses EACH.

Multiply that by even 100k copies and that's almost 2 mil in losses. :-D Just an idea....not that it'll work, since you'll get the 'we're not gonna PM something for a penny' employees like I got the last couple times. But, it's worth a shot and a way to 'stick it to them' that would probably work better than an all out boycott.



How the HELL do you forget an Ipod not once, not twice but three fuckin times in your pants? All of my expensive electronic gadgets are always well looked after and I've never forgotten anything(outside of the usual pocket change or in one or two instances a pack of gum)in my pocket before tossing my clothes in the wash.


iPod nano; tiny as fuck and doesn't weight shit. Secondly I didn't do the load those times my mom did. If I had I probably would of caught it ....also before I had an iPod I had a sansa mp3 player and the same thing happened to it but I didnt have a warranty on it....

no ones perfect....I do everything else well but when it comes to small mp3 players in pants pocket...sometimes I forget mmmmmmmmmmk

[Cow_tipper]

I think I've only bought two things from circuit city in my life, so never going back won't cause me any problems.

[cwalker3]

Devil's advocate here. Albeit an ignorant one.

I always figured Speedy was someone who at the very least was working for a company that did business with CC. Assuming this, I'm sure there was some sort of rule or NDA in place at said company that said "don't leak this."

Why should we be upset that CC is protecting their private information? Leaking this information hurts their business. Can you blame them?

[UncleBob]

You know, if you think CC is right for going after Speedy, that's one thing. But threating legal action against Cheapy? That's over the line.

[sdp]

Not only have I gotten a lot of shitty costumer service from CC, they are stupid, last time i'll ever go there.

[FaintDeftone]

Not only have I gotten a lot of shitty costumer service from CC, they are stupid, last time i'll ever go there.

Both CC's in my area are run by attractive females who know nothing about what they are selling. So yeah, you usually get pretty crappy service.

[VipFREAK]

I don't shop there anyway... or BB for that matter.

[fullhavok]

F!!!! CC, i won't be doing my shopping there anymore!!

[Corvin]

I've stayed out of this but a boycott is just silly. If the PS3 is where the line was drawn isn't it safe to assume it is Sony bringing the hammer down? Wouldn't your fight be better served by boycotting Sony and burning all your games?

The tiny amount of people boycotting is infinitesimal to CC and does nothing to help speedy or cheapy. And as pointed out by Cheapy, CC ad supports this site which in turn helps pay the legal bill. So in a sick-twisted-roundabout way, buying at CC helps more than boycotting.

[VipFREAK]

If we boycotted EA then we wouldn't have shitty games...

[SpazX]

I usually buy things from them that they lose money on, now I'll make sure I only buy things if they're losing money. That's the best I can do. :-P I hardly ever go anyway....

Hell I'll boycott Sony too, I don't buy anything from them anyway.

[HotShotX]

Picked up my copy of DOA4 for $19.99+tax today, after a bit of waiting. Turns out the UPC on the flyer is for the PC games, so it took a bit of searching by CC employees to find the XBox360 code, which they never did. Instead they just manually knocked off $10. Got the Non-GH copy too :).

As for Speedy/CC, the issue hasn't amounted to much aside from CAGs choosing sides. Need I remind you all that taking sides and not shopping at CC does NOTHING for Speedy, we've all done nothing but bicker at one another on whether or not we're affecting CC's sales.

WHO FUCKING CARES. A fellow CAG is the one that needs our help. Instead of not spending your money at CC, why not donate to helping Speedy's cause. I'd rather see a lawyer defend Speedy successfully than us attempting to hurt CC's bottom line and Speedy paying the price from our lack of unity.

Shop at CC, be a CheapAssGamer to the core, it's what we are, it's what unites us. But rally behind Speedy, rally behind the effort to support him, a single man, a single CAG. Boycotting CC is NOT doing that, but donating to a "Save Speedy" fund (if one exists, or if donating is your thing) will.

Thank CheapyD for jumping to Speedy's defense, and help out. Rally behind Speedy and CheapyD, and let's fight this as a community...not in CC's bank account or store floors, but in court, where the REAL FIGHT is, and the REAL CONSEQUENCES WILL BE DEALT.

~HotShotX

[Doomed]

Picked up my copy of DOA4 for $19.99+tax today, after a bit of waiting. Turns out the UPC on the flyer is for the PC games, so it took a bit of searching by CC employees to find the XBox360 code, which they never did. Instead they just manually knocked off $10. Got the Non-GH copy too :).

As for Speedy/CC, the issue hasn't amounted to much aside from CAGs choosing sides. Need I remind you all that taking sides and not shopping at CC does NOTHING for Speedy, we've all done nothing but bicker at one another on whether or not we're affecting CC's sales.

WHO FUCKING CARES. A fellow CAG is the one that needs our help. Instead of not spending your money at CC, why not donate to helping Speedy's cause. I'd rather see a lawyer defend Speedy successfully than us attempting to hurt CC's bottom line and Speedy paying the price from our lack of unity.

Shop at CC, be a CheapAssGamer to the core, it's what we are, it's what unites us. But rally behind Speedy, rally behind the effort to support him, a single man, a single CAG. Boycotting CC is NOT doing that, but donating to a "Save Speedy" fund (if one exists, or if donating is your thing) will.

Thank CheapyD for jumping to Speedy's defense, and help out. Rally behind Speedy and CheapyD, and let's fight this as a community...not in CC's bank account or store floors, but in court, where the REAL FIGHT is, and the REAL CONSEQUENCES WILL BE DEALT.

~HotShotX
I wish I could fit that into a sig.

I belive a photoshop is in order:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/balloon.jpg

[Z-Saber]

I wish I could fit that into a sig.

I belive a photoshop is in order:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/balloon.jpgSomeone did that already, I think.

[Doomed]

Someone did that already, I think.

If they did, it deserves a place of honor in my sig! REVEAL YOURSELF!:D

[ITDEFX]

unfortunitly no one knows who "Speedy" is outside of Cag :(

[kjauburn]

unfortunitly no one knows who "Speedy" is outside of Cag :(

Sure we do, little guy runs around alot yelliing "Arribba, Arribba"...

"Speedy knows your sister."

[electronicmaji]

"Speedy knows your sister."

No wonder he does he finished with yours in 5 seconds..:roll:

[LinkinPrime]

I wish I could fit that into a sig.

I belive a photoshop is in order:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/balloon.jpg

Not sure if someone did one or not but here's my take...feel free to use it:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7639/savespeedyxe5.png

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7639/savespeedyxe5.png

[SL4IN]

circuit city will no longer recieve any more money from me. long live speedy1961.

[ITDEFX]

Not sure if someone did one or not but here's my take...feel free to use it:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7639/savespeedyxe5.png

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7639/savespeedyxe5.png

you know, if someone could rip that scene from FBDO and post it somewhere I might be able to do something with it in AE and AP :)

but I don't have the movie so I can't do this myself :(

[guyinga]

I read over CC's complaint and....I can't believe an attorney would take their case.

CC is basing their lawsuit on....message board posts? Where is the "loss of revenue" they talk so much about? Either provide month-to-month sales data/graphs or don't bother with a suit.

[speedracer]

I read over CC's complaint and....I can't believe an attorney would take their case.

CC is basing their lawsuit on....message board posts? Where is the "loss of revenue" they talk so much about? Either provide month-to-month sales data/graphs or don't bother with a suit.
The general consensus is that CC's strategy is being masterminded by a 2L. :D

[Corvin]

unfortunitly no one knows who "Speedy" is outside of Cag :(

I'd say he has a bigger following over on DVDtalk where he posts basically the entire ad, not just game deals. He initially posts movies and games, but will post anything anyone requests, which usually entails all the tvs and or computers.



Thank CheapyD for jumping to Speedy's defense, and help out. Rally behind Speedy and CheapyD, and let's fight this as a community...not in CC's bank account or store floors, but in court, where the REAL FIGHT is, and the REAL CONSEQUENCES WILL BE DEALT.

~HotShotX

:lol: You do realize that he was stealing corporate information and providing it to the masses, which could be construed as providing it to the competitors as well. If they find out who he is, there will be no "real fight" and the only "real consequences" that will be dealt will be the judge's gavel coming down on Speedy. It only sounds frivolous now because no one has a clue who he is or where to find him. Once they do, he is fucked.

I appreciate the guy's work, but I'm not ignorant enough to ignore the fact that he was in the wrong. Even he knew that. I wish him luck though. I can't blame CC for wanting to protect their investments. They may be going about it wrong, but they are in the right, not Speedy. So boycotting is quite naive.

[level1online]

Darn.... i found out about the boycott too late. I just bought a 1080p HDMI dvd player. Not a bad deal, 60 bux. DAMN YOU! CHEAP CHINESE LABOR!!!!

[vectorscalar]

I was on the fence about the boycott until today. I read the complaint and motion to quash posted on the frontpage. If CC is going to release the sharks, they should at least hire ones with teeth! 2L is a bit of a compliment, IMHO.

I'm boycotting CC and SONY and asking everyone I know to do the same. Yes, I know it doesn't amount to much, but every little bit DOES help.

In fact, I just got back from a trip to CC to get the CEO/Corporate PR Intern email addy from the manager (and scope out the situation, natch). While I was waiting for the manager to look it up, a 20 something guy was going to pick up Forza 2. I told him about the BestBuy $49.99 sale price starting Sunday-he was skeptical. I explained about CAG and the early deals, explained the legal attack on Speedy and why I was there. He asked once more if I was sure he could get it for $10 cheaper if he waited until Sunday at BB. The manager overheard and told him that if he bought it today, CC would PM for 30 days. The guy laughed and walked out, saying, "I guess he's right about the price. Screw Circuit City-Information wants to be free."

The look on the magager's face as I took the printout from his hand was what pushed me into the boycott column. Each one teach one and it will grow exponentially. You have no power except that which you choose to exert.

[Don Chubo]

Since you people that are so passionately boycotting CC are surely going to do it all the way - not just selectively and as a matter of convenience, I take it that the rest of us won't be graced by your presence on this site?

I mean after all, CC is a CAG affiliate - right?

[kjauburn]

Since you people that are so passionately boycotting CC are surely going to do it all the way - not just selectively and as a matter of convenience, I take it that the rest of us won't be graced by your presence on this site?

I mean after all, CC is a CAG affiliate - right?

Nope I believe Cag relies heavily on google ads. The ads tie to the content on the pages and since the word circuit shitty is all over the site of course they come up more. CC probably has a min bid per 1000 impressions for tons of words and actually so cag is just collecting more money from cc now through google. If it wasn't cc it would be someone else...

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I was on the fence about the boycott until today. I read the complaint and motion to quash posted on the frontpage. If CC is going to release the sharks, they should at least hire ones with teeth! 2L is a bit of a compliment, IMHO.

I'm boycotting CC and SONY and asking everyone I know to do the same. Yes, I know it doesn't amount to much, but every little bit DOES help.

In fact, I just got back from a trip to CC to get the CEO/Corporate PR Intern email addy from the manager (and scope out the situation, natch). While I was waiting for the manager to look it up, a 20 something guy was going to pick up Forza 2. I told him about the BestBuy $49.99 sale price starting Sunday-he was skeptical. I explained about CAG and the early deals, explained the legal attack on Speedy and why I was there. He asked once more if I was sure he could get it for $10 cheaper if he waited until Sunday at BB. The manager overheard and told him that if he bought it today, CC would PM for 30 days. The guy laughed and walked out, saying, "I guess he's right about the price. Screw Circuit City-Information wants to be free."

The look on the magager's face as I took the printout from his hand was what pushed me into the boycott column. Each one teach one and it will grow exponentially. You have no power except that which you choose to exert.

Only problem I have with this is....are you teaching a CAG or a future fuckin hoarder who will steal every damned copy of every last clearance game and Ebay them, leaving none for those who might PLAY them?

There has to be a balance in teaching some about CAG or not. You have to be a good judge of character, young grasshopper.

For if you are not, then this site will turn into the next SD or FW, with hoarders and lurkers galore.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

Only problem I have with this is....are you teaching a CAG or a future fuckin hoarder who will steal every damned copy of every last clearance game and Ebay them, leaving none for those who might PLAY them?

There has to be a balance in teaching some about CAG or not. You have to be a good judge of character, young grasshopper.

For if you are not, then this site will turn into the next SD or FW, with hoarders and lurkers galore.

Do people still hoard video games?

[zerowing]

I was boycotting Sony already this gen because I don't like their business plan or some of their advertising ideas. I would jump on the boycott CC bandwagon but the local Best Buy is never stocked with anything while CC has just about everything I need all the time.

[davo1224]

Do people still hoard video games?

Sure do

[CocheseUGA]

Nope I believe Cag relies heavily on google ads. The ads tie to the content on the pages and since the word circuit shitty is all over the site of course they come up more. CC probably has a min bid per 1000 impressions for tons of words and actually so cag is just collecting more money from cc now through google. If it wasn't cc it would be someone else...


Exactly. The ads also help pay for the lawyers, so CC is funding CAG's defense.

I've been advocating for a couple of weeks now NOT to boycott CC. We're the smart consumers, the ones who know what to buy because it's a great price. We're not consumers who go in for something and have a high attach rate. We see something on sale, and we buy only what's on sale. So if we stop shopping there, while CC's overall sales might drop a percentage or two, the profit margin will actually rise. Do we really want that?

If someone really wanted to hurt CC, they would reduce their buying from them to PMing to get the extra 10%, anything to dip into the profits. Buy loss leaders, and loss leaders only. What you would be looking to do is dive into the profit any way you could. A more extreme example would be to go in and out of the store or keep the doors open to keep AC or heating bills high.

But, you know, I'd never advocate doing stuff like that at all.

[Don Chubo]

selectively and as a matter of convenience

Makes it easy to rationalize away any hypocrisy, doesn't it? Yeeha!

[blackbird3216]

Actually, I don't think Ive ever bought anything at CC.

[sendme]

I have not been reading up on this but tell me if I got this wrong. Speedy was posting adds on here and other websites for CC. He posted one before it was out that had the PS3 price drop in it. Now CC is seaking legal action? Or am I missing something?

As for buying from them. I really don't buy much from them at all. The one near me does not have much for movies, music or games. I might buy 2 or 3 things a year there if that and thats only if Best Buy does not have it in at the time. The newest thing I have from them is a 60 gig Ipod video. I bought that about 3 months before the 80 gig came out and they stopped selling the 60 gig. It may be about a year or year and a half old. So me boycotting them would really be pointless seeing how I hardly shop there.

[Don Chubo]

Question - How long until overblown righteous indignation blows over?
Answer - About 3 weeks.