Rumor: 360 Haze is canceled [Mobile/Archive]

GauntletPython

08-24-2007, 06:16 PM

http://exgn.wordpress.com/

According to a German website, Exp.de (http://www.exp.de/), the 360 version of Free Radical’s up coming shooter, Haze, has been canceled. Haze was originally set to be a timed exclusive on PS3, due out for in November 2007. The PC and 360 versions were set for a release sometime in 2008. The PC and PS3 version are still on time for their respective releases. This could be a disappointment to many 360 owners. More information should be in soon
Original German Article
Wie wir soeben bei einer Präsentation des Shooters aus erster Hand erfahren haben, wird es keine Xbox-360-Version von Haze geben. Der Titel ist dieses Jahr noch PS3-exklusiv und wird voraussichtlich im November erscheinen, 2008 wird eine PC-Fassung folgen. Weitere Informationen zur Präsentation folgen heute Abend.
N4G translation:
How we learned just now in a presentation of the Shooters out of first hand, there will be no XBox Version of Haze. The title is this year yet PS3 exclusive and will appear presumably in November, 2008 will follow a PC version. Further information to the presentation follows tonight.

This sucks if its true(hopefully its not). Haze looks like it will be damn good!

H.Cornerstone

08-24-2007, 06:17 PM

I have learned never to trust translated material.

jer7583

08-24-2007, 06:29 PM

This would be financial suicide.

trq

08-24-2007, 06:31 PM

I have learned never to trust Germans.

Fixed.

H.Cornerstone

08-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Fixed.

But half my ancestry is from Germany so that would be like not trusting myself....

Kayden

08-24-2007, 07:28 PM

I know I can't trust myself.

But half my ancestry is from Germany so that would be like not trusting myself....

A Happy Panda

08-24-2007, 07:29 PM

Fuck if it's true!

Haze was a game I was sooo looking forward to. I love Free Radical and don't have a PS3! Dang it.

Brak

08-24-2007, 08:08 PM

I have a PS3, but I'd rather play it on the 360. :bomb:

help1

08-24-2007, 08:25 PM

These guys make Timesplitters right? Then its something to moan about, I guess. I wonder why they would do this though.

H.Cornerstone

08-24-2007, 08:34 PM

These guys make Timesplitters right? Then its something to moan about, I guess. I wonder why they would do this though.

Two Reasons:

1. Sony showed them the moneyhats.
2. They realized that Haze won't sell on the 360 against Halo, COD4 and all of it's other FPS so why even bother spending resources porting it?

apokalipze2

08-24-2007, 08:38 PM

Two Reasons:

1. Sony showed them the moneyhats.
2. They realized that Haze won't sell on the 360 against Halo, COD4 and all of it's other FPS so why even bother spending resources porting it?They'd still make more money than leaving it on the ps3 and it's tiny installbase:lol:

magiic

08-24-2007, 08:40 PM

I hadnt even heard about this game. Sounds liek it may of been for the best as I can avoid the dissapointment.

Kaijufan

08-24-2007, 08:58 PM

I find it kind of hard to believe that they are still working on a PC version, but not a 360 version. Either way I don't really care, I've never been looking forward to Haze that much and would much rather have FR work on a new Timesplitters game.

jer7583

08-24-2007, 09:00 PM

the 360 to PC port is so simple that it doesn't make sense not to. Besides that it's EA. It'll appear on 360.

If it doesn't it's Free Radical's loss. PS3 fanbase isn't enough to support any exclusives right now.

PyroGamer

08-24-2007, 09:03 PM

I have learned never to trust translated material.
Odd, because some big leaks in recent memory have been from German websites.

dpatel

08-24-2007, 09:07 PM

Sounds unlikely. Unless Sony is throwing a lot of money at FR, this seems like a loss for them.

Kayden

08-24-2007, 09:11 PM

If its so simple, why don't you port it? ;)

the 360 to PC port is so simple that it doesn't make sense not to. Besides that it's EA. It'll appear on 360.

If it doesn't it's Free Radical's loss. PS3 fanbase isn't enough to support any exclusives right now.

BlizzFan

08-26-2007, 03:12 AM

Let's see here... Haze. After playing BioShock, Half Life 2: Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, and Halo 3 on the 360 later this year I could give a flip honestly about it being cancelled on the 360.

Dark Slayer120

08-26-2007, 03:15 AM

I hope it is canceled for the 360.

elmyra

08-26-2007, 06:24 AM

I hope it is canceled for the 360.

Why?

TimPV3

08-26-2007, 06:40 AM

If it doesn't it's Free Radical's loss. PS3 fanbase isn't enough to support any exclusives right now.Ninja Gaiden Sigma called, but evidently you weren't home.

A Happy Panda

08-26-2007, 02:18 PM

Ninja Gaiden Sigma called, but evidently you weren't home.

=/

I wouldn't call that an exclusive in the full sense of the word, since it is just a remake.

GizmoGC

08-26-2007, 02:26 PM

=/

I wouldn't call that an exclusive in the full sense of the word, since it is just a remake.

A remake of a remake.

tangytangerine

08-26-2007, 05:18 PM

2. They realized that Haze won't sell on the 360 against Halo, COD4 and all of it's other FPS so why even bother spending resources porting it?

It would still make money. According to the reports, it's being released in 2008. That's well after COD4, Halo 3 and whatever else FPS that is hyped out the ass will be released.

They would be shooting themselves in the foot financially not releasing it for the 360. If they don't develop it, I bet Ubisoft will ask them to get someone else to port it the system.

A Happy Panda

08-26-2007, 05:21 PM

It would still make money. According to the reports, it's being released in 2008. That's well after COD4, Halo 3 and whatever else FPS that is hyped out the ass will be released.

They would be shooting themselves in the foot financially not releasing it for the 360. If they don't develop it, I bet Ubisoft will ask them to get someone else to port it the system.

Well. They were developing for both platforms at one point, but out of the blue UbiSoft took the 360 release date off of any of their forecasts and what have you. There was a bunch of speculation, then it was revealed to be a timed exclusive. I still think it will come to the 360.....at least I hope so. If not, here I come TS4.

whoknows

08-26-2007, 05:22 PM

Doesn't bother me if it is or isn't.

I have my PS3 so I'm set.

Plus, this being made by FR makes this a must buy for me. As long as it isn't cancelled on the PS3 I'm good.

zewone

08-26-2007, 05:27 PM

Another mediocre FPS, dang, 360 needed one of those.

whoknows

08-26-2007, 05:31 PM

Another mediocre FPS, dang, 360 needed one of those.
You really think it'll be mediocre?

zewone

08-26-2007, 05:32 PM

You really think it'll be mediocre?
Yes.

It isn't going to be a Halo (and for you Sony fans I guess...Killzone/Resistance?).

whoknows

08-26-2007, 05:35 PM

Yes.

It isn't going to be a Halo (and for you Sony fans I guess...Killzone/Resistance?).
I think it'll be better than Resistance for a few reasons. Mainly though, it's going to have 4 player online co-op and I love playing online co-op...too bad Resistance didn't have it.

2Fast

08-26-2007, 05:39 PM

Another mediocre FPS, dang, 360 needed one of those.

This is the correct answer.

No sweat.

hcamacho

08-26-2007, 05:45 PM

This would be financial suicide.

So let them suicide then, who cares........

Dark Slayer120

08-26-2007, 06:21 PM

Yes.

It isn't going to be a Halo (and for you Sony fans I guess...Killzone/Resistance?).

I don't like Killzone, so for me Resistance is the shit as far as PS3 goes. No disrespect Zew but there is no way to tell if it's going to be a "halo" or not without playing it. You can only speculate right now since none of us have even played the game, only seen trailers and some game play. Also on that note I don't get why everyone thinks halo is the god of FPS. Hell I liked Time Splitters 2 for Xbox better then Halo. In any case Haze to me looks really good and I can't wait to play it and see how it compares to "the god of FPS." Also with 4 play Co-op you can't go wrong man, I know myself and whoknows will be doing that. Right? Also as far as it being better then Resistance I am not real sure at the moment if it will be or not. I love Resistance and if the online is as good as it's suppose to be for Haze, with the two sides and what not then it may just surpass Resistance. For right now though all we can do is speculate, at least until November that is. . .

dpatel

08-26-2007, 06:37 PM

Yes.

It isn't going to be a Halo (and for you Sony fans I guess...Killzone/Resistance?).

In terms of sales and popularity, most likely not. In terms of quality, that's a bit subjective, and, with the developers behind Haze, I'd say it has a pretty good chance.

Dark Slayer120

08-26-2007, 06:42 PM

In terms of sales and popularity, most likely not. In terms of quality, that's a bit subjective, and, with the developers behind Haze, I'd say it has a pretty good chance.

Agreed and very good point dpatel.

zewone

08-26-2007, 06:45 PM

In terms of sales and popularity, most likely not. In terms of quality, that's a bit subjective, and, with the developers behind Haze, I'd say it has a pretty good chance.
That's exactly why I think it will be mediocre, Free Radical.

Timesplitter games are fun to an extent, but they are like playing Blitz, while something like Halo would be like a Madden (more competitive, I know people have their own personal issues with Madden/EA).

DomLando

08-26-2007, 06:49 PM

zewone

08-26-2007, 06:50 PM

But as Free Radical stated this is a totally different experience then Timesplitters and they want to make the two of these games as separate as possible. So just because Free Radical makes the Timesplitters franchise I don't understand why this game has to play anything close to how Timesplitters does. Why don't people wait to play something before they say how good, bad, or ok it is?
Because I'm speculating.

You know, like how people are excited for LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 without having played them?

In that same vein, I'm not excited for this game.

Dark Slayer120

08-26-2007, 06:51 PM

DomLando

08-26-2007, 06:53 PM

Because I'm speculating.

You know, like how people are excited for LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 without having played them?

In that same vein, I'm not excited for this game.
Saying you are not excited about something is fine. But saying something ie mediocre based on a totally different game a developer made is odd to me. That is all.

dpatel

08-26-2007, 06:55 PM

That's exactly why I think it will be mediocre, Free Radical.

Timesplitter games are fun to an extent, but they are like playing Blitz, while something like Halo would be like a Madden (more competitive, I know people have their own personal issues with Madden/EA).

That was my one complaint with the TS series. It never took itself seriously, and, to me, that sorta hindered the single player (I prefer a deep, engaging single player mode, over a light-hearted, 'fun' one). The look and feel of the game made the game, as you said, feel like the Blitz of the FPS genre. I think the gameplay was just as good as any FPS, and multiplayer was superb (the game lacked in online too). I just felt the developers made a mistake when trying to make the TS series standout from the rest by giving it this overly vibrant, light-hearted experience. Thankfully both of these problems seem to have been remedied with Haze, and I am definitely looking forward to it.

Dark Slayer120

08-26-2007, 07:05 PM

Haze doesn't look any thing like Time Splitters so I think we are good. I expect Haze to be deeper and darker then Time Splitters ever was/is. FR even stated they were going to stay clear from making it a Time Splitters clone.

heavyd853

08-26-2007, 07:52 PM

dpatel

08-26-2007, 08:00 PM

I don't see why people keep talking about how the ps3's install base is so tiny when its at about 5 million now. Sure, its half fo the 360's but even if a smash hit game only sells to 40% of ps3 users that still 2 million.

40% penetration is pretty hard to do. Also keep in mind that some may only be using the PS3 to watch BD movies, which makes that 40% that much harder.

-Never4ever-

08-27-2007, 01:07 AM

I hope it got canceled, the PS3 is in desperate need of must-own exclusives.

40% penetration is pretty hard to do. Also keep in mind that some may only be using the PS3 to watch BD movies, which makes that 40% that much harder.

I would be shocked if the percentage of PS3 owners that own their systems almost exclusively for BRD isn't at least 85%. With the remaining 15% split between people who just want to own all / more than one systems / people who border on the retarded.

whoknows

08-27-2007, 01:09 AM

I can't help but wonder why they would cancel it though

dpatel

08-27-2007, 01:14 AM

FriskyTanuki

08-27-2007, 12:21 PM

I would be shocked if the percentage of PS3 owners that own their systems almost exclusively for BRD isn't at least 85%. With the remaining 15% split between people who just want to own all / more than one systems / people who border of the retarded.
Supposedly, it's about 40% (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070809-report-gamers-largely-clueless-about-next-gen-console-media-capabilities.html) of the system's install base that even know about the Blu-Ray drive, let alone buying the PS3 exclusively for it.

-Never4ever-

08-28-2007, 11:00 AM

Supposedly, it's about 40% (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070809-report-gamers-largely-clueless-about-next-gen-console-media-capabilities.html) of the system's install base that even know about the Blu-Ray drive, let alone buying the PS3 exclusively for it.

Than I am indeed shocked. Guess the percentage of people who own it and another system / slack-jawed yokels was WAY higher than I originally imagined.

benjamouth

08-28-2007, 12:14 PM

I can see why this is a good idea for the developers, if they're making a game for both systems they can't really tailor it for the PS3's greater spec, and 360 owners probably won't be that interested with all the other big-name FPS on the system.

But if it's PS3 exclusive they can take advantage of the higher spec/greater storage and as there aren't the HALOs and Bioshocks to compete with they'll be more chance of PS3 owners picking this up.

help1

08-30-2007, 02:10 AM

So, is it confirmed to be canceled?

GauntletPython

08-31-2007, 09:44 AM

http://exgn.wordpress.com/

PS3 REALLY needed this title, this will most likely be its GotY contender. Really great news for Sony fanboys!

Blitz

08-31-2007, 09:53 AM

Gee another fucking war type game, how original. They change a few things call it something different but the game is just about the same as the one released last week. Game developers are really getting lazy.

shipwreck

08-31-2007, 09:57 AM

What is that site and how does just grouping all the rumors into one article make it official?

Going to merge this one with the other article containing Haze PS3 exclusivity rumors.

Edit: Okay, you made the other thread too. You already reported this rumor once.

And the official stance as quoted in the article (that I'm guessing you wrote) is "The PC and 360 versions are not confirmed". C'mon, it's a timed exclusive at best.

trq

08-31-2007, 04:54 PM

PS3 REALLY needed this title

True.

this will most likely be its GotY contender.

Let's not get all carried away now.

And anyway, this is still all couched in weird PR-speak anyway. "A spokesperson said, 'The official statement on PC and Xbox 360 is that these platforms are not confirmed.'"

Yeeaahh ...

H.Cornerstone

08-31-2007, 05:07 PM

It's timed exclusive, but the PS3 needs all it can get at the moment.

Monsta Mack

08-31-2007, 07:13 PM

Guys, use common sense here.

Like this was going to sell with all the FPSes coming out this holiday season? Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 *ALONE* would have made this a discounted title in WEEKS/ sell like shit. It would be senseless for them to release this for the 360 this holiday season.

Now if they are going to release this next year when no other FPS are out? It will sell better.

Good move by Free Radical I'll be picking this up next year for the 360. Unlike other companies who tend to throw all their games in the mix of the holiday season they used their brain to figure out a delay would generate more sales.

Trust me on this one.

mogamer

09-01-2007, 09:25 PM

That was my one complaint with the TS series. It never took itself seriously, and, to me, that sorta hindered the single player (I prefer a deep, engaging single player mode, over a light-hearted, 'fun' one). The look and feel of the game made the game, as you said, feel like the Blitz of the FPS genre. I think the gameplay was just as good as any FPS, and multiplayer was superb (the game lacked in online too). I just felt the developers made a mistake when trying to make the TS series standout from the rest by giving it this overly vibrant, light-hearted experience. Thankfully both of these problems seem to have been remedied with Haze, and I am definitely looking forward to it.

I liked both Timesplitters 2 & 3 better than Halo 2. I liked it because it was light-hearted. Too many FPS's take themselves too serious. WW2, last humans, etc. Timesplitters is fun to play and I feel that Free Radical is a top notch FPS game developer. If Haze comes to the X360, I'll buy it, even if it isn't like Timesplitters.

P.S. I liked Second Sight also!

lokizz

09-01-2007, 10:06 PM

it could simply be a case of the xbox not being able to keep up with what they were trying to accomplish. and instead of putting out a halfassed game they decided against an xbox version. btw is this the game that had the guy using a weapon that looked like the weapon from krull? im probably one of the few here but wtf is so great about fps?to a certain extent theyre all kind of the same to me lots of shooting some jumping tons of corridors and then of course online vs play.

Vanigan

09-02-2007, 03:32 AM

My thought is that Sony wanted another FPS this year, it's not supposed to directly compete with Halo, but they need a new FPS game to sell for the holiday shoppy season. Haze was it.

However, the game looks like it has quality, the latest videos all look very good, and the 4 player co-op is still a good feature.

On Ubisoft's side, Haze was developed on PS3 hardware first with the idea that they'd learn that system and then port it to the 360 and PC. Ubisoft wanted to release it this year, so instead of waiting for the 360 and PC port, they went ahead with an early release on the PS3.

Then Sony offers them money to keep it as an exclusive, maybe for a bit longer, maybe indefinitely, but it's a good idea for them to have some exclusive shooter with 4 player co-op for their lineup this holiday.

It doesn't have to compete with Halo in Sony's eyes, even though it inevitably will compete with it. Instead, it's a message to FPS fans out there that Sony isn't shirking the FPS genre. They're saying, "In the meantime, here's Haze to hold you over until we get Killzone 2 out."

looploop

09-02-2007, 12:10 PM

P.S. I liked Second Sight also!

Me too. Great game.:)

whoknows

09-03-2007, 05:46 AM

Looks like it's going to be a fantastic game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24377.html?type=flv

VipFREAK

09-03-2007, 05:53 AM

God this game is gonna be awesome. The PS3 will rule.

triforcer

09-03-2007, 06:57 AM

Haze never looked like anything special to me. i probably would have picked it up in the bargin bin like i did with timesplitters future perfect, but it being a ps3 exclusive doesn't really matter to my future purchases.