CAGcast #89: There You Go Again

[CheapyD]

CheapyD and Wombat discuss the latest gaming and shopping news, and even talk about the new iPods.
We also answer your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) questions, discuss the latest gaming and shopping news, and so much more!

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Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):

Intro music: Outrun

"There yo go" (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../podcast/thereyougo.mp3)

MCV Games Media Awards: CAGcast Nominated for Best Podcast
(http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28177/Games-Media-Awards-finalists-revealed)Represent the CAGcast at the Games Media Awards in London (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150680)

CAG Foreplay #15: The Mice is Right (9/5/07) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cag-foreplay-15-the-mice-is-right-9507.php)

Taint or Mere IGNorance? (http://vgmwatch.com/?p=1111)

CAG Metroid Prime 3 Thread (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142432)
The Name Game: New Nintendo Trademarks - Wii Handle? (http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/152138872/new-nintendo-trademarks-+-wii-handle-296201.php)
Jam Sessions - Track listing (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3162210)

Thanks, No: Japan Does Not Need Warhawk On Blu-Ray (http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/151819434/japan-does-not-need-warhawk-on-blu+ray-295959.php)
Cashola: Sony To Sell Insurance IPO To Fund PS3 Price Cut?
(http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/152229260/sony-to-sell-insurance-ipo-to-fund-ps3-price-cut-296335.php)Analysts believe 80GB to go $499 this year (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/152145235/)
Forty PS3 titles to be playable at TGS
(http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/152115190/)Feature: Karraker on Blackballs, Blogging and Bye Byes (http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/152638141/karraker-on-blackballs-blogging-and-bye-byes-296708.php)

Msoft Investigator Confirms Halo 3 Manual (http://kotaku.com/gaming/legal/msoft-investigator-confirms-halo-3-manual-296213.php)
Reminder: Gears of War maps now free (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/152074270/)
CERO Z bundle pack coming to Japan (http://www.siliconera.com/2007/09/03/cero-z-bundle-pack-coming-to-japan/)
GameQuest Direct Weekly CAG Offers (Exp 9/10) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/gamequest-direct-weekly-cag-offers-exp-910.php)

Guitar Hero IV to be Aerosmith-centric? (http://gonintendo.com/?p=24325)
Finally: Master P and Seth Green team for RPG
(http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/152122171/)Sims on Stage / SingShot (http://www.singshot.com)
CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382)

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Outro: Atari 2600 (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=6292)




Possible CAG Gamerpics?
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/cheapyd/caggamerpics.jpg

Bonus Video!
http://www.youtube.com/v/j6ci6bT1M-0

[Jim Jim]

I like how wombat said "there you go," WITHIN THE FIRST MINUTE OF THE SHOW. Intentional or not still very funny.

also I dont mind a few ads, but 4 is way to many in my opinion.

[thorbahn3]

Oh god yes CheapyD the online matching is horrible in puzzle fighter. I have to create a ranked match to get shit going. Also the sprites are low res which sucks.

Wombat likes Robot Chicken and Morel Orel... ugh.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

tag this

[HooHaa]

Great show as always guys!

[T3kN]

Damn it I heard you say something cheapy that I really wanted to call you on, but I can't remmember what you said cuz I was at work when listening to the cast, and im to lazy to listen to the entire thing again.

There you go

[dysuriai]

I love you guys! The only podcast i listen to.

[KingBroly]

I would like to know why Cheapy continues to fund Circuit City's subpoena of himself by promoting Circuit City on the site/show. It doesn't seem like it's at Cheapy's best interest to do so for the time being.

Cheapy, you should've gone with the Blue Dragon bundle just because of the awesome faceplate alone. Don't you have enough clocks in your apartment already? Do you not love Space Invaders?

Although Wombat continues to be a monument of commitment on the show, I feel he is once again getting the short end of the stick. Cheapy, Wombat better get Galaxy and Smash Bros. for free now thanks to your greediness of the best game on Wii to date, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption.

And there you go.

[gunm]

Happy Early B-Day! I'll order some shit off your affliate links in honor of the occasion.

[nesfan8222]

cant wait to get to work and enjoy this one

[kPod]

I'm english, but Fugly. And call me a Limey again and I'll... find some other sort of national slur. D<

And damn, I ain't going to London for anyone.

[CheapyD]

I would like to know why Cheapy continues to fund Circuit City's subpoena of himself by promoting Circuit City on the site/show. It doesn't seem like it's at Cheapy's best interest to do so for the time being.

Cheapy, you should've gone with the Blue Dragon bundle just because of the awesome faceplate alone. Don't you have enough clocks in your apartment already? Do you not love Space Invaders?

Although Wombat continues to be a monument of commitment on the show, I feel he is once again getting the short end of the stick. Cheapy, Wombat better get Galaxy and Smash Bros. for free now thanks to your greediness of the best game on Wii to date, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption.

And there you go. Yeah, but it might be in your best interest to go to CC to if you want Stranglehold for cheap. I think it's better if you make the decision whether or not to shop at Circuit City, rather than having me make it for you.

There are actually two different Blue Dragon bundles....the ones with the faceplate (and figures) are gone.

[striker199]

tag for later

[zewone]

:rofl:

I loved the racist RPG jokes.

[KingBroly]

Yeah, but it might be in your best interest to go to CC to if you want Stranglehold for cheap. I think it's better if you make the decision whether or now to shop at Circuit City, rather than having me make it for you.

There are actually two different Blue Dragon bundles....the ones with the faceplate (and figures) are gone.

I know its' a business decision Cheapy, and I didn't mean to come off rudely if you took it that way. I'm just saying if it were me, I wouldn't want to support a place trying to put me on the witness stand. And why would I want Strangehold? The demo wasn't very good in my opinion.

I didn't know there were 2 different Blue Dragon bundles either. You don't hear much when it comes to new 360 news over there anymore since everything they tried busted out on the second or third hand.

[JDUB X]

Awesome!

I will have to listen tomorrow. I am already up way too late lol

[yukine]

You and Wombat should be getting paid for all the work you do on the CAGcast, so having advertisements on the show is fine to me. However, it'd be a good idea to choose advertising that is relevant to the site. I don't think any of us want to listen to numerous 30 second ads for Preparation H, for example.

I know the CAGcast and CAG are not big enough to really pick and choose, but the way that Penny-Arcade only has advertisements on their site for games or other things that they are into would be the ideal way of doing things. Perhaps in the future when the CAG Empire is all grown up, you guys can have that luxury. But for now, lets try and get people who want to advertise about games on the show.

[youruglyclone]

there you go... is that the new would you kindly...


Hiite Utaeru DS Guitar M-06 is developed by the same folks who are doing Jam Sessions

also Jam Sessions will have an Amp attachment

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180476

do you have links to the extra content for the BB versions of jam session?

[Draekon]

You and Wombat should be getting paid for all the work you do on the CAGcast, so having advertisements on the show is fine to me. However, it'd be a good idea to choose advertising that is relevant to the site. I don't think any of us want to listen to numerous 30 second ads for Preparation H, for example.

You don't want HeadOn for an advertisement? I am very disappointed.

[jaystaeb8]

Advertising in the CAGcast would be something I would be careful with. I personally wouldn't mind advertising as long as it was related to the theme of the site. As far as the prospective advertiser you mentioned, I don't see a problem with the YMCA advertising either but if it were the Navy, which I am pretty sure it is, I guarantee you would lose one listener forever the second the add came on. I would pay for a podcast subscription to keep ads unrelated to gaming off the podcast.

I support the military and I think it is an admirable and important profession. Enough so that I was in Guards while I went to college. However as the Iraq Veterans Against the War stated so eloquently. War is not a game. They have no business advertising here.

However if it was the YMCA I say let them advertise, I know I am not the only CAG who could benefit from some more exercise.

[msuna]

Tag for later, will ahve to listen to the CAG later.

[traslin]

If the fruit flies come back, you can kill them by putting out a shot of whiskey. The flies will go nuts for it and then OD on alcohol...

Or you can just do the genocide thing again ;).

[4nik8tor]

At first I wanted to download the entire Village People discography.
Then I thought I should thank Cheapy for giving me that idea.
Then I thought about it more and I didnt download anything.
Then I thought about posting how I didnt download anything.
Then I thougnt about not posting.
Then I did.

[HOVA uk]

Dibs on the wired controller..

[Temporaryscars]

Crap. I wish I had brought my headphones to work today.

[GLOCKGLOCK]

Wombat hanging at the Pegasus on Friday nights! Might be the 1st shout out for Pittsburghs best known Gay bar on a video game podcast!

[Justden]

You'll need about two weeks of fly free air space before you can be sure they are really gone.

If you have plants, they will lay their eggs in the soil and hatch in about a week or two.

[xrayzwei]

Another great episode, thanks for answering my question from the BAG.

It's zwei BTW, as in German for two.

[NamPaehc]

Nice show.

EchoChrome = PSP (UMD) & PS3 (PSN) game(s?) BTW. :)

[cdrober]

Really great podcast this week. I particularly enjoyed the video of the unboxing too. I was just thinking...if they sold all that (English versions at least) in the USA this Christmas I be the Xbox 360 would easily triumph against all other consoles and it could be a great thing for parents to get for their kids (not baby kids, but older). I mean..here that would run you probably $350 w/ tax and/or shipping...

And to Wombat, I think you should try to get on some tv shows like Cheapy has been able to do. You have enough knowledge to be a video game consultant too, so let those people at Bloomberg, MSNBC, or CNN know. I feel that after that you will start to get some free games too.

Good Job Guys!

[SL4IN]

great show Cheapy and wombat, and thanks for reading my pm on the show!

[thinktank909]

I love this podcast. from the first five minutes I have noticed the great chemestry you both have. :)

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

After watching you unbox the system, it's no wonder your Xbox 360 red ringed when you treat it like crap.

[BJWanlund]

Cheapy, SHAME ON YOU for not knowing what Adventure Island was. And shame on Wombat for not knowing Master Higgins.

BJ

[Xrazor]

Nice Cagcast i listen to every one, and i love the extra vid!

[CYRiX]

You should put up all the extra stuff up in contest form. I'm sure someone would need an extra power supply, especially since they're like $75 or something.

Also, kudos to the snap-and-point.

[Bazz]

Awesome new Cagcast. Nice Video Cheapy love the clock. I wish one day we get cool promos. Maybe we shouldn't buy their system so much so we get more stuff for less money like Japan.

[Temporaryscars]

What the hell is with people buying these subpar ipods?! They're lowest common denomanator mp3 players! Wombat, get an 8GB Sandisk Sansa. It's the same size at the nano, except it plays video and pictures all for a lot less than a nano. I've turned plenty of people on to it, and they haven't looked back.

http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/sandisk-sansa-e280-8gb/4505-6490_7-32041576.html?tag=prod.txt.3

I know I say this every year, but I have the same Bday as Cheapy! I'll be 24 this Sunday, so that makes Cheapy a full decade older than me.

I’ll update this as I listen.

[FriskyTanuki]

Maybe we sohuld add Warhawk to the dreaded unmentionables list that we have for Wombat. Wombat just ignores the retail version completely and complains exclusively about things that affect anything you download without even acknowledging that the retail version covers you for most of those complaints (not being able to trade it in, not being able to trade with CAGs, no resale value). If you're going to bitch about things (Punk_Raven, too) that aren't new to the downloadable realm, at least ackowledge that those things aren't a problem with the retail version and make it seem like you're fighting the good fight by not buying it off of the PSN. Seriously, it's annoying to see you purposely ignore the reasonable solution in favor of continuing to itch about the downloadable version. I get that the game's not your type of thing and that your internet connection sucks, but it seems like you just need to move on and start calling it the "W" game.

As for Cheapy, you mentioned that you've been playing the game lately, but why haven't you used your big, Japanese internet connection (assuming it can host a 32 man game) to host a game for CAGs to play and get some CAG fun with the community. Also, Incognito's aware of the full game problem and are working on the problem. I don't know when it's expected to be fixed, but at least they're aware of the problem and are working on it.

Heavenly Sword's getting bad reviews? EGM gave it two 8's and a 9 and it has a 81% on Gamerankings (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928391.asp), which is obviously a bad average. ;)

Great show. Stop freaking out about using "there you go" so much, as it's only bad when you guys are going on about it instead of continuing the show. You might have had time to answer a few more questions if you didn't stop to react to a "there you go" every ten minutes. ;)

[thurston]

great show..:D

[H.Cornerstone]

When I go to download, it gives me CAGast88... if I click download link.

[Nephlabobo]

I'm new to this forum and have a question.

If we want to write in and ask a question, should we post it here, or email it somewhere?

[Chronis]

Cheapy, SHAME ON YOU for not knowing what Adventure Island was. And shame on Wombat for not knowing Master Higgins.

That. Adventure Island was the greatest back in the NES days! How can you not know!? And Kentucky Fried City is an awesome name.

!!Nephlabobo!! Read the opening post to find the link to submit questions.

[Short Round]

I, like Wombat, was having the same terrible connection problems to the Playstation Network. I would be logged on for at max 10 minutes, when all of a sudden I would be booted for one bullshit reason or another.

Although, despite my connection problems I decided to pick up Warhawk anyways; I couldn't resist after reading some of the fantastic reviews. I purchased the retail copy, installed it, then logged on to the network to give it a test run.

Low and behold before I even got to the title screen I was booted. Frustrated, I reset everything read some troubleshooting tips and tried again.

Booted yet again before getting to the title screen. It was around this time I was debating whether or not to turn my SIXAXIS into SIXPIECES, but before I did I gave it one last go. Sure enough I was able to log on, and not only was I able to log on I was playing for hours with not a problem in sight.

Eventually I turned my PS3 off for the night, elated at the sudden fix of the PS3 Network, and went to bed. The next day I tried to log on again to play Warhawk, and I had the exact same problem. It would boot me within minutes of logging on. Well three tries later I was finally connected to Warhawk, and I enjoyed two solid hours of problem free play time.

It seems to me, and I know several others in the same boat, that if you can actually stay connected to the network long enough to join a game then you will not get dumped form the network. I have no idea why this is, but I can confirm that this holds true for Warhawk, Calling All Cars, and Resistance.

I can honestly say that it's worth all the hassle to play Warhawk. It's by far the best online console shooter since Halo 2, and well worth the $60 dollars for the retail package.

So Wombat if your network is holding you back from playing this game I suggest you give Calling All Cars, or Resistance a test run and see if our problem is the same. If it is, I'd say give Warhawk a shot, you won't regret it.

[Milkyman]

That's gotta be the messiest unboxing video I've ever seen, cheapy's tossing shit all over the place and tearing thing's apart.

I'm also curious about how many of Cheapy's american games work on the system. Are they really so lax with their region coding?

[CheapyD]

When I go to download, it gives me CAGast88... if I click download link.My bad...it's fixed now.

I'm new to this forum and have a question.

If we want to write in and ask a question, should we post it here, or email it somewhere?

Welcome! South Korea, eh...cool!
Please post your questions in the CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382)

[FriskyTanuki]

Hey Cheapy, if you want to pimp something that isn't Digg or iTunes-related ;) during the housekeeping segment, you could mention the CAG Folding@ Home team in the hopes that we can get enough support to get further than reaching the top 400 team slot we just achieved. At least this would go towards a good cause instead of just helping your download numbers. ;)

[Rusty Ghia]

I'd much rather pay a small fee than have ads in the CAGcast. It's one of the many reasons why I don't watch television (other than public broadcasting) or listen to the radio. And I refuse to buy games with ads.

[T3kN]

I'd much rather pay a small fee than have ads in the CAGcast. It's one of the many reasons why I don't watch television (other than public broadcasting) or listen to the radio. And I refuse to buy games with ads.

I completely agree with Rusty Ghia.
I dont watch tv anymore, I hate commericals. Whenever there was a commercial I would change the channel to something else, watching 2 shows at once sorta thing, but most the time both shows im watching would have commercials on sooo fuck TV!!!!

[R3co]

Great show guys!

Wombat what's up with your internet connection? Considering you got a FREE PS3 I think you could affford to investigate the problem further. Try buying a new router and see if that fixes your problem, if not you can always return the router and it cost you nothing. I work for an internet provider and I'd say 99% of our service calls regarding connectivity issues are crap routers.

...there you go

[yummytyson]

very funny podcast. and i noticed that u said "there u go" in your unboxing the 360 video =P


edit: u should've made a video of u killing the fruit flies =D

[sying]

CC renaming itself to be The City? All I can think of is The Tick, the blue avenger protecting The City! SPOOOON!!!

[ecmazza]

Let this be my official "in forum" apology. After listening to this weeks show, I listened to last weeks again. I got the wrong idea about the gamerpics. While free would be nice, if MS only allowed them if they were $$, then I get it. That means I should send my "hate mail" to MS instead ;)

Again, sorry. My B!!

[CheapyD]

No apology necessary.
By the way, WSB and I are being proactive and have put together a pack of 10 gamerpics. I think they look good!

We've got 2 different CAG logos, CAGcast, CAG Foreplay, CheapyD, Wombat, Mrs. Shipwreck, CheapyD's Devil Customer Head, a YMMV Price Tag, and Fist Full of Cash (aka Cash In Face).

I think Shipwreck needs to get the shaft otherwise GI Joe will sue us.

It's pretty hard to put together icons that are viewable at such a small size.
These aren't finalized by any means...but this is what we have so far:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/cheapyd/caggamerpics.jpg

[yummytyson]

quick question, CAG gamerpics = free? or not?

[FriskyTanuki]

No apology necessary.
By the way, WSB and I are being proactive and have put together a pack of 10 gamerpics. I think they look good!

We've got 2 different CAG logos, CAGcast, CAG Foreplay, CheapyD, Wombat, Mrs. Shipwreck, CheapyD's Devil Customer Head, a YMMV Price Tag, and Fist Full of Cash (aka Cash In Face).

I think Shipwreck needs to get the shaft otherwise GI Joe will sue us.

It's pretty hard to put together icons that are viewable at such a small size.
How about some cool CAG wallpaper for the PS3? I'm not sure if that would be too much work for WSB, but it would be cool to see and you don't need to worry about a lawsuit. ;)

[Levizk]

I'd much rather pay a small fee than have ads in the CAGcast. It's one of the many reasons why I don't watch television (other than public broadcasting) or listen to the radio. And I refuse to buy games with ads.

That's obviously not a realistic option. The CAGcast would lose quite a lot of casual listeners with any sort of fee on it, and it would hinder the acquisition of new listeners. I personally only started listening the last few weeks due to the Circuit City legal update, and now I listen when nothing else is going on because the show does serve as a sort of digest for video game news. Just the act of having to put in credit card information for any amount, regardless of how insignificant would just make the show too much of a hassle when other free options exist. Plus you would run the risk of shutting out a large demographic of game players who probably aren't old enough to own credit cards, but still enjoy the show.

While putting ads into the show would be annoying, the reality is this site is a business venture. Shutting out advertisers and at the same time creating barriers to new listeners would be a terrible long-term plan. Besides when you consider the amount of commercials you watch during an hour and a half of television, the minute and a half to two minutes being proposed isn't exactly going to be the end of the world.

[io]

D'oh! You gave dmaul's "con" issue with Metroid Prime 3 having the black bars (on all 4 sides, what??) too much air time there.

I'm with you Cheapy - most Wii games have small black bars on the left and right side on my HDTV, and it is annoying. Metroid Prime 3, on the other hand, does NOT have this problem. It fills up the screen just like a 360 game on my HDTV.

Also, about your arms getting tired: Well, my sensor bar is on top, and I've played some 4-5 hour MP3 sessions. I hadn't even thought about it until I listened to the CAGcast (also no one on the huge-ass MP3 thread has talked about it except for dmaul as far as I remember). It is simply not an issue - and I've got a few years on you Cheapy so I've got my share of weariness issues in general. MP3 overcomes them ;).

[Punk_Raven]

Woo Hoo I got a mention!

PS Wombat, I found the baby joke to be hilarious ( japanese 360+ american hardrive). Couldn't get it at first, though.

[G1ZM0]

The pics look great Cheapy, but I doubt MS will let you have the CAGCast one if you can read the ASS in the background. Also I think there should be a fuck one. But I guess there may be some copyright issues with that one.

[figcoinc]

There you go...

[Tybee]

Great show guys. I hope you get to play MP3 soon, as it is loads of fun. Cheapy, I have you in my Wii friends list, so as soon as you get the game, it'll show me and I can send you some friend vouchers. Wombat, if you add me, I can do the same for you.

Regarding the IGN Prey debacle: It sounds like IGN's editors (or at least some of the middle managers) could use some remedial ethics training. Here's how that conversation should have gone:

Prey PR Flack: Sooooo...Can you tell me what kind of review your editor is planning to give our game?
Doug of IGN: I'm sorry, but it is our editorial policy not to disclose that kind of information before publication.

The End.

Thank God the reviewer in question knew more about journalistic ethics than his boss did. It sickens me that he not only was planning to disclose the review score, which is already a huge breach of ethics, but also was perfectly prepared to skew that score to curry favor with the publisher. For fuck's sake... Of course, IGN's editorial policy could include a clause about bending over and a complimentary bottle of lube. It wouldn't surprise me. At this point it'd be hard for me to have any less respect for them than I already do.

[LiK]

Cheapy, those ads are gonna suck if they put it in the beginning, middle AND end(??) screw them. if you listen to most other shows like 1up, they only have one ad in the beginning or middle usually. 4 ads in one show is ridiculous. it's not worth it.

btw, thanks for answering my questions. Hourman! that is one lame superhero, lol.

[Temporaryscars]

It's too bad neither of you have any artistic talent, i'd love to see a CAGComic.

[Wombat]

Maybe we sohuld add Warhawk to the dreaded unmentionables list that we have for Wombat. Wombat just ignores the retail version completely and complains exclusively about things that affect anything you download without even acknowledging that the retail version covers you for most of those complaints (not being able to trade it in, not being able to trade with CAGs, no resale value). If you're going to bitch about things (Punk_Raven, too) that aren't new to the downloadable realm, at least ackowledge that those things aren't a problem with the retail version and make it seem like you're fighting the good fight by not buying it off of the PSN. Seriously, it's annoying to see you purposely ignore the reasonable solution in favor of continuing to itch about the downloadable version. I get that the game's not your type of thing and that your internet connection sucks, but it seems like you just need to move on and start calling it the "W" game.

As for Cheapy, you mentioned that you've been playing the game lately, but why haven't you used your big, Japanese internet connection (assuming it can host a 32 man game) to host a game for CAGs to play and get some CAG fun with the community. Also, Incognito's aware of the full game problem and are working on the problem. I don't know when it's expected to be fixed, but at least they're aware of the problem and are working on it.



So I took the plunge and bought the disk version, hopefully I will get a chance to play tonight.

[Temporaryscars]

So I took the plunge and bought the disk version, hopefully I will get a chance to play tonight.

Sellout!

[LiK]

So I took the plunge and bought the disk version, hopefully I will get a chance to play tonight.

i'm still waiting for my copy from TRU.com. it's back in stock and they haven't shipped it yet!

[MaxDense]

I really like Warhawk but the server tools are awful. It does take multiple tries to join games. Games that appear to have openings come back full and joining games that appear full is sometimes successful (especially with Sony's servers). They also need more filters, I would like to be able to display ranked servers only, Sony servers only, etc. I hope they're working on this, it's a great game when you can join in.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/MaxDense.png (http://profile.mygamercard.net/MaxDense)

http://tags1.ps3tag.com/uploads/M/MaxDense4007083.png (http://profile.ps3tag.com/profile.asp?memberID=5289)

[R3co]

Nice work on picking up Warhawk, I managed to get the retail version for $49.95 CDN.

Now have you spent anytime fixing your PS3's internet connection issues?

[franz ferdinand]

No one's mentioned it so far, so I will...

If a company as invested in online retail as Circuit City is was going to change their name, surely they'd purchase the domain name for their future name. And who owns thecity.com? Circuit City Stores, Inc. (http://whois.domaintools.com/thecity.com)!

This name change sounds pretty credible to me. There you go.

[FriskyTanuki]

So I took the plunge and bought the disk version, hopefully I will get a chance to play tonight.
A nice surprise. :D It's nice to see that you're willing to spend some money so you can complain legitimately. ;)

If you want some help getting into the game, I'm up for playing a few games tonight.

[WhipSmartBanky]

It's too bad neither of you have any artistic talent, i'd love to see a CAGComic.
Are you being serious or is my internet humor detector acting flaky? ;) Either way, it has been a while...

CAGcomic 1 and 2
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archives/cat_cag_comic.php

Unofficial CAGcomic 3 / ESRB Parody
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archives/esrb-ratings-in-the-real-world.php

[nicholas01]

Great CAGcast, once again! Just wanted to clarify something, though, thats been brought up in the last few casts. According to DailyTech (http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Xbox+360+Falcon+to+Feature+65nm+CPU+90nm+GP U/article8586.htm), the "Falcon" may not fix the RRoD problems in the 360. According to the article,Those expecting the 65nm die shrink to affect the two main chips inside the Xbox 360 will be disappointed to learn that only the console’s main processor will be the manufactured on the new process.

“Falcon is the name for the board that houses the 65-nanometer microprocessor from IBM,” wrote Takahashi. “The board does not include a 65-nanometer version of the ATI graphics chip for the Xbox 360. That version of the graphics chip is coming later.”

The new 65nm chip from IBM will work with both the current 90nm and the future 65nm iteration of the 65nm ATI GPU, according to Takahashi.

Oddly enough, it appears as though the main culprit behind the Xbox 360 reliability woes may be linked to the ATI GPU rather than the IBM CPU. As part of a recent fix to all 90nm-based consoles, Microsoft has been adding additional cooling measures into the Xbox 360. Found first in a repaired European Xbox 360 was a new heatsink with a heatpipe that leads to a secondary “daughter” heatsink helps to further cool the GPU.
If that's the case, it may not be worth waiting a year (or however long) it takes to get the new GPU, if only because of the great gaming going on now, as well as the fact that the 3-Year Warranty will likely carry you through until the next generation (isn't that a scary thought? Buy today, you're covered until Sept. 2010; that's right around the same time the 5-year lifecycle of the 360 will be up!!). At any rate, I'm going to get a 360 soon, and not bother waiting for the new motherboard, because I'm not so sure it's going to solve anything, especially if the problem is actually rooted in the GPU. Frankly, I can't wait much longer, with Bioshock and Halo 3 right around the corner. Oh, and I know I show a GamerCard below, but I sold my console in the beginning of summer for some much needed cash flow and to take a rest during the summer doledrums.

Just food for thought. Thanks for another great show, and I look forward to hearing Wombat lead!

[terpkristin]

So I took the plunge and bought the disk version, hopefully I will get a chance to play tonight.

I wondered if you might do that, if for no other reason...you can trade it back in if you really hate it. ;) Plus don't you get a BT headset with that one?

All in all, good show, guys. I almost went through and counted how many "There you go's" there were, but then I decided it'd be more fun to play my DS at work (shipwreck, if you're reading this, you're a HORRIBLE influence--damn, I hope no one from work reads this forum!).

On other topics....
Wombat-with the iPod Touch, I'm guessing that even though you only had ~10 GB of music on your old iPod, you'd start filling the Touch up pretty well.
Maybe not at first, but with a screen like that, it's begging you to put tv
shows or movies on it, which I'm guessing you'd eventually do, then you'd
end up filling it up. That's kind of how it went for me. I have a 60 GB
video iPod right now, and it's got about 17 GB of video stuff on it (mostly
tv shows that I watch through my iPod dock on my tv or bring to my folks so
they can watch), plus about 30 GB of music. At the end of the day, though,
I'm with you, it's too much money for only 16 GB.

Happy birthday, Cheapy! :D

I think that 4 ads in a show is absurd. Especially since the ads wouldn't be relevant to gaming or anything else I'm interested in on a gaming podcast. With that content matter, I think it'd be jarring. I think one ad at the beginning, you reading a promo or something, one ad somewhere in the middle (a short mention), and maybe one at the end is much better, but it really can't throw off the flow of the show. Some of the other 'casts I listen to use advertising, an ad or two in the beginning which is the host reading a promotional bit, and one torwards the middle or at the end is what they seem to do. I'd be ok with that style format.

No discussion of the PSP-2000? Do either of you think you'll be picking it
up? I'm STRONGLY considering trading in my first-gen PSP and getting this.

/tk

[nicholas01]

Wombat-with the iPod Touch, I'm guessing that even though you only had ~10 GB of music on your old iPod, you'd start filling the Touch up pretty well.
Maybe not at first, but with a screen like that, it's begging you to put tv
shows or movies on it, which I'm guessing you'd eventually do, then you'd
end up filling it up. That's kind of how it went for me. I have a 60 GB
video iPod right now, and it's got about 17 GB of video stuff on it (mostly
tv shows that I watch through my iPod dock on my tv or bring to my folks so
they can watch), plus about 30 GB of music. At the end of the day, though,
I'm with you, it's too much money for only 16 GB.
/tk

I disagree. I think people need to begin to use the Smart Playlist function within iTunes. How often do you spend 5 days away from your computer? I'm not sure anyone needs their entire collection with them at all times; I've had a 2gb Nano for a year now, and I have plenty of room for (a) podcasts, (b) a playlist of 'study music,' and (c) a roster of music that I change just about once a week for use in the car.

I used to be a huge fan of the massive drivespace. But since getting the Nano, I've realized how easy it is to manage your library, and with a little bit of forethought, I always have whatever tunes I need.

[terpkristin]

I disagree. I think people need to begin to use the Smart Playlist function within iTunes. How often do you spend 5 days away from your computer? I'm not sure anyone needs their entire collection with them at all times; I've had a 2gb Nano for a year now, and I have plenty of room for (a) podcasts, (b) a playlist of 'study music,' and (c) a roster of music that I change just about once a week for use in the car.

I used to be a huge fan of the massive drivespace. But since getting the Nano, I've realized how easy it is to manage your library, and with a little bit of forethought, I always have whatever tunes I need.

As an engineer in the aerospace industry, quite often. I end up doing quite a bit of international travel and when on a launch campaign, I may be out of the country for a month (or more, depending on how things go with the launch). I know I'm in the minority. But for me, a hard drive is a must.

/tk

[nicholas01]

Touché, terpkristin! I will admit that having a 15gb iPod was nice when driving across the country. But since that one was stolen, a 2gb Nano for under a hundred bucks (used, off Craiglist) has served me terrifically, though I'm never more than a few hours away from my laptop, so...

[Temporaryscars]

Are you being serious or is my internet humor detector acting flaky? ;) Either way, it has been a while...

CAGcomic 1 and 2
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archives/cat_cag_comic.php

Unofficial CAGcomic 3 / ESRB Parody
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/archives/esrb-ratings-in-the-real-world.php


I mean, sure, there's those, but those are older than Cheapy's crusty underwear. I don't need to tell you how old that it. :D

[WhipSmartBanky]

I mean, sure, there's those, but those are older than Cheapy's crusty underwear. I don't need to tell you how old that it. :D
For me, part of the problem is the whole "Simpsons did it!" thing. Only in this case it's "Penny Arcade did it!" or "VGCats did it!"

It's difficult to come up with something funny, original, and pertinent, much less on a frequent basis...especially when there are already so many quality video game related webcomics out there.

Maybe with CAG2.0 the CAGcomic will meet a more significant revival.

[Temporaryscars]

Out do them. Make a full on animated cartoon!

[WhipSmartBanky]

Out do them. Make a full on animated cartoon!
Simpsons did it!

[Temporaryscars]

Simpsons did it!

Yeah well, plent of people have eaten pizza, yet I still do it. Like Wombat says, more of the same isn't bad as long as it's good.

[lordwow]

Good episode guys.

[CdnArmy33]

Well here is one vote for ads. If ads mean that we hear more reviews because you spend the advertising money in buying games you might have passed on, I’m all for it.

Also I think it’s a good thing if the ads are not game related. Then we can’t claim you guys sold out. Well we could.. but not for that reason ;)

[Temporaryscars]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[R3co]

Agreed. If the ads aren't game related some of the crazy fanboys can't claim that you sold out.

I think you should sell ads for those little blue pills, I'm sure some of the old timers around here could use em. Oh by the way Happy Birthday Cheapy ;)

[rogueweapon]

Great show guys. He since Yous GUys are from NY anyway what do you think of this? You might not want to drink your water Wombat.
this also includes use of flouride in toothpaste , etc.

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

vs

http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/general/teeth/fluoride.html (http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/general/teeth/fluoride.html)

btw, the 1st article sounds right to me. Somebody is lying.

[urzishra14]

Advertising in the CAGcast would be something I would be careful with. I personally wouldn't mind advertising as long as it was related to the theme of the site. As far as the prospective advertiser you mentioned, I don't see a problem with the YMCA advertising either but if it were the Navy, which I am pretty sure it is, I guarantee you would lose one listener forever the second the add came on. I would pay for a podcast subscription to keep ads unrelated to gaming off the podcast.

I support the military and I think it is an admirable and important profession. Enough so that I was in Guards while I went to college. However as the Iraq Veterans Against the War stated so eloquently. War is not a game. They have no business advertising here.

However if it was the YMCA I say let them advertise, I know I am not the only CAG who could benefit from some more exercise.

i wouldn't mind 1 ad at the first of the show then 1 ad in the middle of the show.. but 4 would be too many.. and i don't know.. I think i would almost rather pay for a podcast subscription (say 1 or 2 bucks) then listen to ads, as thats the reason I can't listen to regular radio as much all the ads right in the middle of the shows and sometimes the guys from the radio show do the ads so you kind of get "tricked" into thinking it was back to the show..

but in either case.. don't lose content because of the ads.. I hope this means the cagcast will stay at its usual length and not get cut by the constraints of ads.. i also hope the ads don't influence how you guys talk about things..

[Zero_Kirby]

great show

[orko60]

There's no way I would pay for podcasts. Bring on the ads! CheapyD, this is your business; you should be monetizing the podcast ASAP. Make that money, brother, but just don't go overboard with the ads. I think the various 1up podcasts balance it well. They have one in the beginning, one during a break, and one at the end. It's not intrusive at all, and anyone who thinks otherwise is really being pretty spoiled. None of this stuff is free to make, so Cheapy has to pay for it somehow. The least you can do is be bothered to listen to (or fast forward through) about a minute and a half worth of commercials (hopefully gaming related).

Also, I think I would take more offense to the "Young Men's Christian Association" advertising than the Navy, but both would be lame. Maybe you could get the Village People themselves to advertise?

One last thing, for Cheapy and Wombat. Warhawk, according to Metacritic, has an 8.4 average review score, and Heavenly Sword has an 8. Those are hardly bad scores, but the way you talked about them makes it seem like they are getting horrible scores across the board. Or did you say Lair and Heavenly Sword? Either way, HS looks to be really cool (I love the demo, so I will probably enjoy the game). Lair, though, I will have to rent. Could be good, you never know!

[FriskyTanuki]

I'd much rather pay a small fee than have ads in the CAGcast. It's one of the many reasons why I don't watch television (other than public broadcasting) or listen to the radio. And I refuse to buy games with ads.
I completely agree with Rusty Ghia.
I dont watch tv anymore, I hate commericals. Whenever there was a commercial I would change the channel to something else, watching 2 shows at once sorta thing, but most the time both shows im watching would have commercials on sooo fuck TV!!!!
I don't get the comparison between a podcast and radio and TV besides that they're all forms of entertainment. Podcasts aren't live, like TV and radio are, which means you can't just skip past ads like you can in podcasts. Offering to pay to not have ads makes it seem like you're the kind of people that pay GameSpot and IGN so you don't have to see those ad pages every 10th or 20th article you read. However, you can fastforward, a standard feature in any music player, past the ads quickly and you didn't just spend money to listen to the podcast. As a fan of some of 1up's podcasts and DL.TV, ads are no big deal and help give the people that work hard on the shows the ability to keep doing the show for the fans.

I'm all for ads since you guys deserve some payback for all of the work (maybe not so much on Wombat's end ;)), time, and money into the show and your content. As long as you can insert the ads in logical break points, it should be fine.

[Captain Freeze]

I'd be all for ads IF AND ONLY IF each one was a Cheapy and Wombat 1980s style rap.

[jer7583]

Advertisements? who cares. My iPod has a fast forward button. As long as the podcasts stay the same length, put in 5 30 second spots each episode!

Bonus if you make a real high pitched wombat noise to let us know when to stop fast forwarding. Or maybe use the Bioshock horn.

I was just listening to the EGM live podcast today and they do a "review crew" of the week's releases like CAG foreplay, except it was a 10 min obligation that gave no detail on anything. The amount of work that goes into both of your podcasts deserves compensation. And god knows I'm not going to pay you, so might as well have someone else do it. Bring on the moneyhats!

[InuFaye]

Cheapy we can fast forward through ads.
I say do it, if it can help you guys out, i wouldnt mind one bit.

[orko60]

I don't get the comparison between a podcast and radio and TV besides that they're all forms of entertainment. Podcasts aren't live, like TV and radio are, which means you can't just skip past ads like you can in podcasts. Offering to pay to not have ads makes it seem like you're the kind of people that pay GameSpot and IGN so you don't have to see those ad pages every 10th or 20th article you read. However, you can fastforward, a standard feature in any music player, past the ads quickly and you didn't just spend money to listen to the podcast. As a fan of some of 1up's podcasts and DL.TV, ads are no big deal and help give the people that work hard on the shows the ability to keep doing the show for the fans.

I'm all for ads since you guys deserve some payback for all of the work (maybe not so much on Wombat's end ;)), time, and money into the show and your content. As long as you can insert the ads in logical break points, it should be fine.

Just wanted to say that, after reading many of your posts, that you are a goddamn genius.

[Sideswiper]

Mad Money's Jim Cramer said he wouldn't touch Circuit City's stock with a ten foot pole, even though the stock price has fallen pretty low. I guess desperate ideas like changing your name to "City" come up when you're on the road to bankruptcy.
http://madmoneyrecap.com/daily_recap_lightninground_091107.htm

Oh and bring on the ads. Listening to some ads is my virtual way of buying you guys some beers.

[Mex25]

Just finished listening to cagcast #89, yeah I know I'm little behind, and in my opinion ads are kind of just annoying announcements but can be skipped over with the touch of the fast forward button. I kind of see cheapy's point though in that for just $80 its not really worth mentioning whoever the sponser is.

One last thing if wombat takes over the show then I'm going to stop listening to the cagcast. Cheapy is the founder and real host of the cagcast and it should stay that way but if cheapy has to take some time off then cheapy should run a poll or contest on who would take over the cagcast and hopefully find a new co-host.

[Tybee]

Just finished listening to cagcast #89, yeah I know I'm little behind, and in my opinion ads are kind of just annoying announcements but can be skipped over with the touch of the fast forward button. I kind of see cheapy's point though in that for just $80 its not really worth mentioning whoever the sponser is.

One last thing if wombat takes over the show then I'm going to stop listening to the cagcast. Cheapy is the founder and real host of the cagcast and it should stay that way but if cheapy has to take some time off then cheapy should run a poll or contest on who would take over the cagcast and hopefully find a new co-host.

I agree with you regarding the ads, but you're wrong about Wombat. Go back to show #1. Heck, go back to the test segments they did. They were partners from the beginning. Yes, Cheapy works more on the site and it is his primary job, but Wombat is every bit as much a part of the podcast as Cheapy is.

[Mex25]

I agree with you regarding the ads, but you're wrong about Wombat. Go back to show #1. Heck, go back to the test segments they did. They were partners from the beginning. Yes, Cheapy works more on the site and it is his primary job, but Wombat is every bit as much a part of the podcast as Cheapy is.
I'll admit that for the first couple of shows wombat was kind of funny and was a decent co-host. But now I'm always tempted to just fast forward through any segments that have to deal with just wombat. His jokes aren't funny, yet he always laughs at them and I don't know if its just me but cheapy seems to be annoyed by him jokes also. Most of the segments that have to deal with wombat are just plain boring or pretty much serve no purpose.