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gorgonzola238
09-11-2007, 04:07 PM
On the Steam Powered website, it's been announced that a Team Fortress 2 beta will begin on Monday the 17th. You can also save $5 if you pre-purchase the Orange Box.

Unfortunately, if you own HL2 and Episode 1 you will have to buy it again, unless you do each individually. However, they have a way that you can share your extra copies with a friend.

Info here: http://www.steampowered.com (http://www.steampowered.com/)

I can't wait to play TF2!

darthbudge
09-11-2007, 04:26 PM
What exactly do you need to do to get in on the TF2 beta?

gorgonzola238
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
What exactly do you need to do to get in on the TF2 beta?

Pre-Order The Orange box by Monday.

It has to be the whole thing, not TF2 by itself.

I'm kinda on the fence, but I've been dying to play TF2. I was definitely on the TF2 is a hoax wagon all the way up until they finally spoke about it.

SOSTrooper
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
Sounds like a good plan to get people to pre-order. I really want a physical copy of the games, and at the same time I want to play the beta.

darthbudge
09-11-2007, 04:41 PM
Yeah that sucks that you have to preorder the game. I like having a physical copy so I guess I can pass.

G1ZM0
09-11-2007, 04:44 PM
/vader

Give in to the Dark Side. Downloading is the way to true power!

/vader



As an added Bonus you get Peggle EXTREME which you can play NOW!!!


http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=3483&cc=US

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Ricochet
09-11-2007, 05:39 PM
Bluh. While I already have HL2 and Episode One, I'll probably preorder this anyway. If anyone wants either of those games, PM me.

SOSTrooper
09-11-2007, 06:05 PM
Hmm, I only have HL2, so I guess $45 for Ep1, 2, Portal, and TF2 is worth the admission.

Sess
09-11-2007, 06:47 PM
Just preordered, can't wait till next monday.

RollingSkull
09-11-2007, 07:38 PM
Is there a way to get in on HL2 Ep2, TFC2, and Portal without paying for HL2 and HL2Ep1?

Serik
09-11-2007, 07:46 PM
Is there a way to get in on HL2 Ep2, TFC2, and Portal without paying for HL2 and HL2Ep1?

I don't think so.

I still don't own HL2 or Ep1, so the Orange Box works great for me. But everyone else gets screwed.

Why is offering the now-cancelled Black Box (which includes just the new stuff) not possible over Steam?

Noodle Pirate!
09-11-2007, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the heads up gorganzola. I have been trying to stay away from anything steam until the release date since it just makes me think about stuff I can't have atm. I never would have found out if you had not posted this.

Definitely going to preorder it now from Steam instead of buying a physical copy since no one is giving away any good preorder stuff with it.

cgarb84
09-11-2007, 07:58 PM
I just pre-ordered my copy. This is a great deal, even for those of us who already own HL2 and Episode 1. This is probably the greatest deal in the history of gaming, especially for those few people out there that don't own HL2 or Episode 1. I mean if these people pre-ordered right now they would get HL2, both episodes, Portal, Team Fortress 2, access to the beta for TF2, AND PEGGLE EXTREME all for just $45. I love Valve, maybe on an unhealthy level sometimes.:D

machoman_93
09-11-2007, 08:21 PM
I don't think so.
Why is offering the now-cancelled Black Box (which includes just the new stuff) not possible over Steam?

I think they're gonna offer that like a week before it comes out or maybe after it comes out.

gorgonzola238
09-12-2007, 12:19 AM
Thanks for the heads up gorganzola. I have been trying to stay away from anything steam until the release date since it just makes me think about stuff I can't have atm. I never would have found out if you had not posted this.

Definitely going to preorder it now from Steam instead of buying a physical copy since no one is giving away any good preorder stuff with it.

No problem. I just watched the video showcasing the Engineer (The best class in the game) and I'm sold.

Even if you have a physical copy you have to authenticate through Steam. I just figure, download it and burn it to a disk, or redownload it.

Noodle Pirate!
09-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Quick question for those who have experience in preloading stuff from steam.

This "beta" for tf2 they will open up on the 17th, is this the full preloaded version that I have? Or will this be a differnt DL that will be made available on the 17th?
When they say beta, do they really just mean early entry into the full retail version?

Zoglog
09-12-2007, 08:06 PM
I got some major concerns on this game as an old TF player back when the mod first surfaced on quake. When it moved to halflife it became a steaming pile of shit in comparison. TFC was total crap (luckily other people made Q3F later). While I do like the new style in TF2 in terms of the art direction, they've removed all Grenades which is what 50% of TF's gameplay was based off of. not to mention the spies can't feign death anymore.................

seems rather gimped to me

gorgonzola238
09-12-2007, 11:46 PM
Quick question for those who have experience in preloading stuff from steam.

This "beta" for tf2 they will open up on the 17th, is this the full preloaded version that I have? Or will this be a differnt DL that will be made available on the 17th?
When they say beta, do they really just mean early entry into the full retail version?

The preload is basically downloading the core components that will not change between now and the final release, i'm guessing textures, sounds and the like. They did the same for when Half Life 2 and Episode 1 were being released. Instead of downloading the entire thing, you preload a majority of the stuff and then you download the final stuff on the release day.

As for the beta, it's just to test the servers and that fun stuff I guess.

gorgonzola238
09-12-2007, 11:50 PM
I got some major concerns on this game as an old TF player back when the mod first surfaced on quake. When it moved to halflife it became a steaming pile of shit in comparison. TFC was total crap (luckily other people made Q3F later). While I do like the new style in TF2 in terms of the art direction, they've removed all Grenades which is what 50% of TF's gameplay was based off of. not to mention the spies can't feign death anymore.................

seems rather gimped to me

I never played the original, only TFC so I can't give a comparison. I really loved TFC and is where I cut my teeth on multiplayer (HLDM was too slow paced, i'm used to The Tournament for DM).

For the grenades, I think it's a good thing. The demoman will be the only grenade carrier. In TFC a lot people would spam grenades, like the Spy gas pill at respawn. As an engy I loved the EMP, but now you have to adapt to not having it which I think will be ok.

And they Spy in TF2 can turn invisible now, instead of feigning. I sucked as spy so that doesn't help in the argument, but maybe it will play a little different.

I can't wait til monday almost 8 years since VALVe originally announced this game.

Serik
09-13-2007, 01:08 AM
I read TF2 will have a respawn time. If it's not a server-side setting, I'll be pissed; respawn times won't work on brutal maps like Dustbowl.

Hardcore TFC players bitch about Valve's decision to remove grenades, but it's a great way to get plays to employ more creative and team-based strategies. On Dustbowl, defenders can hold back the attackers with nade spam for several minutes alone. It's a viable strategy, to be sure, but it gets old.

I'm also curious about TF2's times-to-kill. In the promo videos, everyone dies instantly, which probably isn't an accurate representation of gameplay. In TFC, TTK was perfect: you could live long enough to pull off some ridiculous shit, but you weren't invincible.

And speaking of invincible, I still have my reservations about the Medic's ability to make teammates invulnerable. These sort of wacky powerups tend to ruin other FPS's I play...

Zoglog
09-13-2007, 03:25 AM
I never played the original, only TFC so I can't give a comparison. I really loved TFC and is where I cut my teeth on multiplayer (HLDM was too slow paced, i'm used to The Tournament for DM).

For the grenades, I think it's a good thing. The demoman will be the only grenade carrier. In TFC a lot people would spam grenades, like the Spy gas pill at respawn. As an engy I loved the EMP, but now you have to adapt to not having it which I think will be ok.

And they Spy in TF2 can turn invisible now, instead of feigning. I sucked as spy so that doesn't help in the argument, but maybe it will play a little different.

I can't wait til monday almost 8 years since VALVe originally announced this game.

Well the grenades really helped balance out against the sentry guns. And technically I guess demomen still have pipebombs, but it's still not the same as the old school grenades. no more gren or conc jumping too so I guess Soldiers will have the only jumping leverage with rockets.

I'm still looking forward to playing (just bought orange box) but so far I don't know how long this game will be fun anymore.

Serik
09-13-2007, 08:47 PM
The Fortress Forever mod was released today. If you have HL2, I highly recommend giving it a spin.

If I buy the Orange Box, do I have to wait until October to play HL2?

survivestyle5
09-13-2007, 10:30 PM
Are you kidding? Q3F was good but probably one of the buggiest mods that i can remember for quake 3.

I haven't played it yet (looking forward to on monday) but as i recall in most hl games nade spamming can get freakin old after a while.

The orange box is a pretty good deal it's worth it for the new games alone, do people complain when the elder scrolls game of the year comes out and they paid for some of the mods already?
especially when valve is letting you give them away to people who don't own hl2 /episode 1?

--Also why is the pyro burning a beaver on a skateboard???

Noodle Pirate!
09-13-2007, 10:38 PM
I will be spending the majority of my freetime on tf2 starting on the 17th. I would enjoy playing with other cags if you guys are interested.

My steam id is str8edgezombie.

I can't wait to relearn the game and hopefully my tfc experience will absorb some of the learning curve of the new version. (and I pray that my pc can handle it smoothly)

The 2 classes I will be playing are Engie and medic with maybe some sniper thrown in. If you are a lonely HW guy looking for that special someone with BSI on their mind, give me a shout!

Apossum
09-14-2007, 02:35 PM
Never played this, but it seems to be getting a lot of hype. I pre-ordered the Orange Box, so I'm in on the beta. my steamid is Apossum.

Logain8955
09-14-2007, 04:42 PM
The Fortress Forever mod was released today. If you have HL2, I highly recommend giving it a spin.

If I buy the Orange Box, do I have to wait until October to play HL2?


Doesn't look like it, I'm now installing HL2, and I just preordered.


So, I'll definatly be in the beta. Steam name's jedi8955

Apossum
09-14-2007, 04:45 PM
yeah, you can download everything but Portal and TF2 now. You can pre-load TF2.

Fuzzibunny
09-14-2007, 10:12 PM
TF: Classic was the very first FPS that I played for the PC. I remember watching trailers for the "TF:2" back like 5 years ago when it looked like a ww2 game. This game looks FANTASTIC. I like the "Pixar" look. Gives it something new. I didnt want something realistic. Looks like I will be spending alot of time playing TF2. I will be up for a Clan if someone wants to make one. I can supply the webspace and website if needed.

BULL_Ship
09-14-2007, 10:26 PM
TF: Classic was the very first FPS that I played for the PC. I remember watching trailers for the "TF:2" back like 5 years ago when it looked like a ww2 game. This game looks FANTASTIC. I like the "Pixar" look. Gives it something new. I didnt want something realistic. Looks like I will be spending alot of time playing TF2. I will be up for a Clan if someone wants to make one. I can supply the webspace and website if needed.

Tf2 first showed up in 99 thats like 8 years ago. Maybe Duke Nukem forever actually has a chance.

Negative
09-14-2007, 10:44 PM
Oh crap, I spent a good 3-4 years playing TFC, hell it was the very reason I convinced my parents to get cable back in the day. This game ruled so hard, I can't wait for TF2. Even to this day I play classic every now and then. :)

Fuzzibunny
09-15-2007, 01:32 AM
Oh crap, I spent a good 3-4 years playing TFC, hell it was the very reason I convinced my parents to get cable back in the day. This game ruled so hard, I can't wait for TF2. Even to this day I play classic every now and then. :)

LOL I just Downloaded it now. So fun. Very fast pace but i love it. Heavy Gunner and Engineer are still my favorites.

Noodle Pirate!
09-15-2007, 02:48 AM
I was playing tfc off and on all day as well. All the skills/techniques/tricks I use to have are slowly coming back to me. It's too bad my trackball picked today to start crapping out on me : ( It better last until I can find a replacement. I dont want something so insignifigant to spoil my tf2 party. I have waited too long for this.

I can't wait to see which maps they have converted to tf2. Monday is a day I thought I would never see. I will need to pinch myself to acknowledge that it's really tf2 and I'm really playing it.:P
It feels a lot like xmas as a kid. You know its coming and you know your getting something sweet, it's just a matter of counting down the days :P

Fuzzibunny
09-15-2007, 07:43 PM
Two more Days WOOT. I hope they carry over Dustbowl :D great map

Serik
09-15-2007, 09:16 PM
Dustbowl is included with TF2 (and Fortress Forever) -- thank god!

Noodle Pirate!
09-16-2007, 01:56 AM
If any new people want to learn how to play an engie well, try the "1|N one world online Pub humans vs bots" tfc server. I have yet to come across any jerks or unsportsmanlike behaviour. It's all about working together and helping each other out on there.

Since your fighting against bots, the best offense is a lot of engies and you get to learn how to use them best and good sg placement. Since engie is my fav class, it's the perfect server for me. Plus you dont get insulted by the bots if they kill you. ;P
The bots on there have to be the most ruthlesslly agressive bots in any fps game I have seen. So much so that sometimes they even win a few rounds. It's challenging but very rewarding when you score. Its a perfect balance I think.

I'm sure those skills will carry over to tf2 no matter how different the new engie is.
Only 1.5 more days till TF2!

These movies were posted up on the official TF2 forums. They are a quick overview of a few of the maps included. You get to see some taunt animations with it as well. Very cool. You can even recognize some of the layouts of the tfc maps that have been redone. : )
http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=787CF85D42A6808B

FurryCurry
09-16-2007, 11:39 PM
I'll be playing tomorrow too. My name is Furry King on there.

TFC was my first online multiplayer game. I had it downloaded for like ages as a kid but I was too scared of gaming on the net so I never immediately played it. One day I was just bored and tried it out and found myself sitting in my pjs for hours. Mess was crack.

Fuzzibunny
09-17-2007, 03:32 PM
I think its funny how steams forums are bogged down lol. Hopefully after dinner they will release it. :D

MM3_XBOX
09-17-2007, 08:27 PM
Woke up early hoping to hop on and play. Still waiting...is this Halo 3 beta all over again? :-P

bo0
09-17-2007, 09:03 PM
Is it just me or why can't i play yet? it's monday, what time is it being released?

chodax
09-17-2007, 10:04 PM
Still not up

Admiral Ackbar
09-17-2007, 10:11 PM
Well the grenades really helped balance out against the sentry guns. And technically I guess demomen still have pipebombs, but it's still not the same as the old school grenades. no more gren or conc jumping too so I guess Soldiers will have the only jumping leverage with rockets.

I'm still looking forward to playing (just bought orange box) but so far I don't know how long this game will be fun anymore.


Conc jumping was way overpowered in TFC. It was so bad that they reduced the verical of concs, and it was still too much. I'm glad they reduced or eliminated grenades. I didn't expect that but it was a balance issue.

I'ma huge TFC fan but goot annoyed by its balance issues that never seemed to be addressed. I wanted to get this TFC2 But it's overpriced. I'm not paying $45 bucks for just TFC2 and HL2E2. I have everything else. In a few months the price will probablly come down or it'll be on sale somewhere.

BULL_Ship
09-17-2007, 10:16 PM
its 6pm valve time still no beta

Fuzzibunny
09-17-2007, 10:26 PM
its 6pm valve time still no beta

I wonder what the hold up is.

bo0
09-17-2007, 10:29 PM
its 6pm valve time still no beta

man i bet gabe newell has a big red button that has to be pushed to initiate the beta but he promised he'd eat 1000 donuts to the staff on beta release date.http://www.games.tiscali.cz/specials/zaoponou18/hl2gabe.jpg

Qslugs
09-17-2007, 10:41 PM
I bet he left his computer on again and someone stole the sorce code for that start button.

Fuzzibunny
09-17-2007, 11:06 PM
I bet he left his computer on again and someone stole the sorce code for that start button.

LOL I almost forgot about the HL2 Source code

Apossum
09-17-2007, 11:09 PM
I just got a steam update, but no TF2 yet.

gorgonzola238
09-17-2007, 11:10 PM
Let me guess, 11:59PM Pacific.

Not surprising though, they always do this, no reason this should be an exception.

Fuzzibunny
09-17-2007, 11:33 PM
Let me guess, 11:59PM Pacific.

Not surprising though, they always do this, no reason this should be an exception.

Looks like its going to be that. :( its getting late here.

Serik
09-18-2007, 12:47 AM
Damn you Valve!

Apossum
09-18-2007, 12:48 AM
so.....when's Half Life 3 coming out? :lol:

F8X
09-18-2007, 12:57 AM
so.....when's Half Life 3 coming out? :lol: At Valves rate, 2021.

Serik
09-18-2007, 01:03 AM
Don't Episodes One, Two, and Three count as Half-Life 3?

BULL_Ship
09-18-2007, 01:24 AM
Don't Episodes One, Two, and Three count as Half-Life 3?

According to valve yes. WHERE IS THE BETA ONLY!!! 2 1/2 hours remain in monday valve time.

Apossum
09-18-2007, 01:34 AM
Don't Episodes One, Two, and Three count as Half-Life 3?


Interesting. I have yet to try out Episode 1..still have to beat the main game. Are they upgrading the graphics in the episodes? honestly, HL2 shows it's age quite a bit (I just starting playing it a few days ago with everything maxed.)

BULL_Ship
09-18-2007, 01:38 AM
Interesting. I have yet to try out Episode 1..still have to beat the main game. Are they upgrading the graphics in the episodes? honestly, HL2 shows it's age quite a bit (I just starting playing it a few days ago with everything maxed.)

Well play through lost coast with audio commentary and that's basically the updates that ep1 has, ep2 has even more addons.

gorgonzola238
09-18-2007, 01:52 AM
http://shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48987

Speaking in a Shacknews group chat room on The Steam Community, Valve employee Erik Johnson has revealed that the maddeningly unreleased Team Fortress 2 beta is almost here. Valve is having difficulties with the dedicated Linux server software, causing a delay. Currently, the Windows server software is available through the HLDS Update tool available on the Steam website (http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=getsteamnow&), but the Linux software is not ready. If the company cannot get the Linux server up within "the next hour or two," it will simply release the game for play on Windows servers only.
"We're really close, just a few issues with the Linux server. We just released the Win32 server, so if people are running those, they can get started," said Johnson. "If we don't make it with linux in the next hour or two, we'll just fire away with what we have and get linux out as soon as we can."



Finally, now how hard was it to post that like 2 hours ago?

tsg2005
09-18-2007, 01:56 AM
http://shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48987

Finally, now how hard was it to post that like 2 hours ago?

seriously! they could have just told us this many hours ago. most people wont be up to play it today now

chodax
09-18-2007, 02:31 AM
seriously! they could have just told us this many hours ago. most people wont be up to play it today now

I will be :D

Serik
09-18-2007, 03:17 AM
I have to get up for work in 6 hours, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow :(

ps: Anyone know if TF2 has a 30-second respawn time? I thought I read that somewhere. I can't imagine a Fortress game with annoying shit like respawn timers

SOSTrooper
09-18-2007, 03:19 AM
I have to get up for work in 6 hours, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow :(

ps: Anyone know if TF2 has a 30-second respawn time? I thought I read that somewhere. I can't imagine a Fortress game with annoying shit like respawn timers

Let's hope its a server side setting.

Logain8955
09-18-2007, 04:32 AM
Files are unlocked.


Game won't launch.


I cry. ;.;

csalzman
09-18-2007, 04:43 AM
yeah I have the same problem; I'm trying to redownload now, but its going to take me another hour or so.

SOSTrooper
09-18-2007, 04:47 AM
It launched for me! Yay! Time to not sleep.

csalzman
09-18-2007, 06:32 AM
Yeah, redownloading worked for me. Holy crap this game is awesome :)

Logain8955
09-18-2007, 06:47 AM
Yay! This game is indeed awesome.


I love playing medic with a heavy who knows what he's doing. We're practically unstoppable.

gorgonzola238
09-18-2007, 09:15 AM
So far I like it. The lack of grenades will definitely take time to get used to, but that's ok, makes it a bit more strategic.

The spawn time however is going to get rather annoying. I just hopped on a server with a 15 second spawn time. That's going to not be very fun. Other than that so far so good, sadly I gotta roll out to work, how weak.

MM3_XBOX
09-18-2007, 10:55 AM
If only Valve posted the beta would launch 9/18, I would have gotten way more done yesterday than just refreshing steam and hoping the game would work :-(

I'm glad it's awesome!

eswat
09-18-2007, 11:22 AM
If only Valve posted the beta would launch 9/18, I would have gotten way more done yesterday than just refreshing steam and hoping the game would work :-(
For future reference: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_time

chodax
09-18-2007, 04:31 PM
For future reference: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_time

lawls

xGunCrazyx
09-18-2007, 05:15 PM
this game is amazing
exceeded the high expectations i already had for the game :P
deff worth pre-ordering
i was pissed about last night though...

coltcannon
09-18-2007, 06:45 PM
Someone wanna give a summary of the beta contents.

Apossum
09-18-2007, 11:39 PM
wow, I suck horribly at this game! I wanna get good as a spy.

electronicmaji
09-19-2007, 12:53 AM
im downloading I gave in and brought it this afternoon? We gonna make a clan?

3QGojo
09-19-2007, 01:01 AM
I dl'd this and FF and I am getting around 10 fps in both games, it is choppy as hell. HL2 seens ti run fine on my comp though, any suggestion to get my fps up to at least 30?

SOSTrooper
09-19-2007, 01:10 AM
I dl'd this and FF and I am getting around 10 fps in both games, it is choppy as hell. HL2 seens ti run fine on my comp though, any suggestion to get my fps up to at least 30?

Lower your resolution and set the details at lowest.

Apossum
09-19-2007, 01:54 AM
any recommendations for a good PC headset? wireless or not is fine, just no bluetooth.

Sess
09-19-2007, 01:55 AM
The more I play TF2, the more I apperciate FF.

electronicmaji
09-19-2007, 01:56 AM
my cock makes a good headset...;)

Apossum
09-19-2007, 01:59 AM
my cock makes a good headset...;)


unfortunately for you, I don't swing that way ;)

Serik
09-19-2007, 03:55 AM
I'll be honest: I hate TF2. The art direction and characters are amazing, but the gameplay sucks.

Dustbowl, my favorite map ever, the only reason I still play TFC, is a joke. The matches end in a lousy 10 minutes; gone are the epic 15 vs. 15 battles for the final cap point as the VOX counts down from 60. Maps in general are smaller; respawn times annoy me; times-to-kill feel off. You could say someone who's so attached to old school TFC never really had a chance of liking this game. The over-the-top, grinning ear-to-ear moments typical of TFC are conspicuously absent from the sequel. TFC was defined, to me at least, by equal parts absurdity and choas. Few games can really capture the visceral fun of online FPS games like TFC, especially the avanti, dustbowl, and well maps.

TF2 is clever, but I don't see myself playing it for 7 straight years.

Oh ya, and the pyro still fucking sucks. At least some things stay the same :D

SOSTrooper
09-19-2007, 04:29 AM
any recommendations for a good PC headset? wireless or not is fine, just no bluetooth.

I use those Logitech ones for like $25. I think for under $50, Plantronics and Altec Lansing make pretty good headsets.

RollingSkull
09-19-2007, 02:03 PM
Serik, get you some Fortress Forever. See how that turns out.

Serik
09-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Serik, get you some Fortress Forever. See how that turns out.

That's my plan when I get home tonight. I never expected TF2 to be a TFC clone...I just expected it to be fun.

Fuzzibunny
09-19-2007, 10:19 PM
I'll be honest: I hate TF2. The art direction and characters are amazing, but the gameplay sucks.

Dustbowl, my favorite map ever, the only reason I still play TFC, is a joke. The matches end in a lousy 10 minutes; gone are the epic 15 vs. 15 battles for the final cap point as the VOX counts down from 60. Maps in general are smaller; respawn times annoy me; times-to-kill feel off. You could say someone who's so attached to old school TFC never really had a chance of liking this game. The over-the-top, grinning ear-to-ear moments typical of TFC are conspicuously absent from the sequel. TFC was defined, to me at least, by equal parts absurdity and choas. Few games can really capture the visceral fun of online FPS games like TFC, especially the avanti, dustbowl, and well maps.

TF2 is clever, but I don't see myself playing it for 7 straight years.

Oh ya, and the pyro still fucking sucks. At least some things stay the same :D

Its still the beta. I actually quite enjoy the game. But people like the classics :D Hopefully they can pump out some mods for ya so you can enjoy it.

BULL_Ship
09-19-2007, 10:42 PM
I think the gameplay how it is is an improvement the nade spamming was so annoying.

That said the respawn timer should be synchronized like in battlefield and shortened. Plus the emp should come back or else how do you get rid of the sticky bombs the demo man lays down.

Maynard
09-19-2007, 11:25 PM
Serik, get you some Fortress Forever. See how that turns out.

I hated TFC with a freaking passion. Too many obnoxious grenades and plus I sucked asshole at the game. Thanks for pointing out the Fortress Forever, I will try that. I wish I could Beta TF2 but I am BROKE as a joke right now :(

gorgonzola238
09-19-2007, 11:32 PM
I think the gameplay how it is is an improvement the nade spamming was so annoying.

That said the respawn timer should be synchronized like in battlefield and shortened. Plus the emp should come back or else how do you get rid of the sticky bombs the demo man lays down.

Respawn is a server side variable, so it just depends on the server.

The stickies can be shot at with rockets, they kinda roll around.

Zoglog
09-20-2007, 06:02 PM
I love the art style in this game, however, not surprisingly, the gameplay feels similar to the crappy Team Fortress Classic Version rather than the superior Q1TF feel or even Q3F. Rockets move too damn slow and to make matters worse grenades are all gone. Spies can't feign death and Grenadiers can't explode pipes in mid-air.... WTF........

InuFaye
09-21-2007, 11:08 AM
Game is great. We need to get some Cag matches going. Ill try and set up an event in the cag steam community group.

Jiggles
09-23-2007, 09:01 PM
I've actually got a US and EU dedicated server online for another forum community I'm in.. Feel free to join in and play..

US Server:

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.167.244.46:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.167.244.46:27015/)

EU Server:

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/212.187.209.143:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/212.187.209.143:27015/)

RollingSkull
09-23-2007, 11:39 PM
Well, I really like TF2, to be honest. It isn't TFC, but damned if I'm not over TFC by now. I can look back on it with hazy nostalgia, but in the end, I can't enjoy it anymore.

TF2 is a very different beast. It is clear that the designers went all the way to make each class very different, yet still playable. Across the board, every class is fun. Scouts can double jump across the now-covered bridge in 2fort to make a totally battlements run at the enemy base, but despite their new (And slightly too powerful) scattergun, they are unlikely to charge through the local sgs, snipers, and spawning defense without help. Medics don't do offense anymore, but form a symbiotic relationship with HWs that makes the two of them a potent fighting force. The lack of needle guns and grenades makes the Engy's job a LOT more viable, but the easy sg destruction of spies means they can't go on offense if they wanna keep their defense. It is all like TFC... but a completely different flavor. Matches are faster-paced without the grenade spam, and more brutal. Only problem is that the back-and-forth territorial control maps NEVER finish in a way that isn't sudden death.

Pyros are still shit though. Tradition!

SpecTrE3353
09-24-2007, 11:22 AM
It is interesting to read the opinions people have so far based upon whether or not they have played or were heavily into TFC. A lot of you seem a bit disillusioned with the changes. I on the other hand barely ever played TFC and to me the TF2 beta so far is the most fun I've had with any online shooter since I first played Counter Strike (which was a really fucking long time ago). I played for about 5 hours yesterday and I am contemplating telling one of my friends to call me at work and pretend there is an emergency so I can go home and play some more :)

Apossum
09-24-2007, 12:22 PM
So is this really a beta or is it sort of an unspoken early release? :) I haven't run into a single problem in my few hours of playing. Are they going to leave it open until launch day?

I've actually got a US and EU dedicated server online for another forum community I'm in.. Feel free to join in and play..

US Server:

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.167.244.46:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.167.244.46:27015/)

EU Server:

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/212.187.209.143:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/212.187.209.143:27015/)


I'll check it out. I need a solid server to play on. The only one I've really enjoyed chatting in so far is the purdue university server. I just hope it isn't as easy to get banned from the gaf server as it is to get banned from the forum :lol:

SpecTrE3353
09-24-2007, 12:40 PM
So is this really a beta or is it sort of an unspoken early release? :) I haven't run into a single problem in my few hours of playing. Are they going to leave it open until launch day?

Someone told me that the beta ends on Sept 30th and we won't be able to play again until release on Oct 10th. I have been scouring the internet trying to find verification of this but haven't found anything. Anyone know?

coltcannon
09-24-2007, 01:45 PM
I think the betaness of it comes in the server options. Seems like all servers are on the same settings. I for one cant stand the wait to respawn.

Jiggles
09-24-2007, 02:55 PM
I moved both servers to a Linux boxes and are as follows...

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/8.6.74.163:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/8.6.74.163:27015/)

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/217.163.30.220:27015/banner_560x95.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/217.163.30.220:27015/)

Serik
09-24-2007, 04:22 PM
I think the betaness of it comes in the server options. Seems like all servers are on the same settings. I for one cant stand the wait to respawn.

That would make sense; Valve can aggregate more accurate statistics if all the servers have the same settings.

The respawn time is fine on A/D maps, but it really pisses me off on 2fort. 15 seconds in a game like TF2 is excessive.

Jiggles
09-24-2007, 08:51 PM
The respawn timers,etc are currently not configurable. Same for the class restrictions/balance.

I will be adding the new custom map LazyTown to my servers listed above. Should be available for playing around 10pm est tonight.

SpecTrE3353
09-25-2007, 03:27 PM
Anyone interested in making a CAG steam community group? I see that there is already a group called CAG but it only contains 2 members and is private.

Apossum
09-25-2007, 03:45 PM
Anyone interested in making a CAG steam community group? I see that there is already a group called CAG but it only contains 2 members and is private.


it's a full community, check the sticky thread.

SpecTrE3353
09-25-2007, 03:56 PM
it's a full community, check the sticky thread.

Sorry... I'm stupid :cry: