Take-Two Losses = BioShock PS3?

[mykevermin]

SAN FRANCISCO -- Video game publisher Take-Two Interactive (TTWO - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) posted a narrower-than-expected third-quarter loss and guided the full year in line with its revised expectations.

The company had cut its outlook last month on news of the delay of its key game, Grand Theft Auto IV.

Take-Two's loss for the third quarter was $58.5 million, or 81 cents a share, compared to a loss of $91.4 million, or $1.29 a share, in the third quarter of fiscal 2006. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial were expecting a loss of 80 cents a share.

Excluding items, the company's loss was $46.1 million, or 64 cents a share, compared to $19.4 million, or 27 cents a share, in the third quarter of 2006.

Revenue dropped to $206.4 million from $241.2 million a year earlier, but beat analysts' expectations of $200.6 million.

Shares of Take-Two were recently up 65 cents, or 4.1%, to $16.40 in after-hours trading.

The decrease in net revenue year over year is largely due to strong prior-year sales of titles from the company's blockbuster Grand Theft Auto franchise, said Take-Two. Take-Two had released the Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories game for Sony's (SNE - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) PlayStation 2 in June 2006.

Third-quarter sales were led by games The Darkness, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, The Bigs and All-Pro Football 2K8.

Take-Two also confirmed it may have an unexpected hit on hands this year. The company said it has already shipped 1.5 million BioShock games released late last month. The company said it is exploring the idea of turning BioShock into a franchise and releasing more versions of the game for additional platforms. BioShock is currently available for PCs and Microsoft's (MSFT - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) Xbox 360 console.

For the fourth quarter, Take-Two reiterated its guidance and said revenue is likely to be in the range of $275 million to $300 million, with loss in the range of 20 cents to 25 cents a share.

Analysts were expecting revenue of $287.9 million and a loss of 16 cents a share.

For fiscal year 2008, Take-Two expects revenue in the range of $1.1 billion to $1.4 billion and EPS of 80 cents to $1 a share. Analysts are expecting revenue of $1.43 billion and earnings of 88 cents a share.

For fiscal 2008, the company said its lineup includes Grand Theft Auto IV, Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution, the next in the Bully series and its sports titles, NBA 2K9 and NHL 2K9.

Take-Two also said it has created a new publishing label, 2K Play, dedicated to casual gaming. The company had partnered with Viacom's (VIA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) Nickelodeon cable TV channel for an expansive handheld and console video game licensing agreement involving Nickelodeon's properties such as Nick Jr. and preschool television hits, Dora the Explorer and Go, Diego, Go!

Dora and Diego, the two top-ranked television shows for kids aged 2 to 5, will be the first games under the new 2K Play label and are expected to be released this fall in North America.

Take-Two also reaffirmed that it is on track for its sports division, 2K Sports, to be profitable next year.

http://www.thestreet.com/s/loss-narrows-at-take-two-interactive/newsanalysis/techgames/10378855_2.html

Just in case you strictly read gaming sites/sources, The Street is a highly reputable money market site - so this isn't some nobody source claiming this - it's someone with credentials saying that Take Two is looking into this.

[looploop]

sounds good to me. Stronger competition from Sony can only equal good things for all gamers.

[Corvin]

On one hand I can see MS letting it happen. It will launch at least a year after the 360 version, so by Christmas 08, who's going to care about Bioshock at that point? Hell people are already getting tired of talking/hearing about it and it's only been out a month. Levine has already gone on record that the whole team is on vacation, so they aren't already knee deep in the PS3 version.

On the other hand, a sequel is another matter. I can see Uncle Bill breaking out the pocketbook on this one. With Halo 3 ending the FPS side of that franchise, it will take a couple of 'heavies' to fill its shoes for MS. Gears of War and Bioshock fit the bill quite nicely. I bet MS lobbies hard for this one. Having Gears be GOTY in 06 and Bioshock a BIG contender for 07, they will want to keep those close to the vest.

On the total flip-side of this, this whole line of thought could all be rendered moot if Take Two is suddenly rolling in it from Table Tennis, Bully and Manhunt 2 on the Wii by the end of the year.

[Inf^Shini]

That would be really nice, Bioshock would be a nice addition and would probably sell well seeing as how the PS3 library isn't large yet and this would likely constitute an impulse buy

[Dark Slayer120]

It could happen, but I doubt it. If Microsoft is smart they will keep that as an exclusive. Then they will have the big three Halo/Bio Shock/Gears. Possibly four since Ninja Gaiden 2 seems to be a X360 exclusive for the time being.

[Halo05]

If they spice up Bioshock for the PS3 (even better graphics, 1080p resolution, maybe another couple hours of content) I'd be tempted to bite again assuming I could sell my 360 LE version to cover most or all of the cost. I still need to beat it on hard while harvesting the Little Sisters vs. normal while saving them.

[mykevermin]

I don't know that, as some of you allude to, Microsoft has any say in the matter of keeping it exclusive or not.

The pull for Take-Two is cash, which they really need at the moment. Microsoft can throw money at them to keep it 360/XB exclusive, but they have no say over porting it in any other case.

[Thomas96]

If Sony does good... all developers do well... when Sony doesn't do well, its not good for everyone. For a company like Take - two, they need to get their game on PS3, it helps them and PS3 at the same time.

[Corvin]

If Sony does good... all developers do well... when Sony doesn't do well, its not good for everyone. For a company like Take - two, they need to get their game on PS3, it helps them and PS3 at the same time.

Sounds like a Shane Bettenhousen line of thought. lol

I think Capcom and Ubisoft would have to disagree. Both of which are riding highs they haven't seen in years...due to Wii support(RE4, Red Steel & Rayman), and Capcom hits on the 360 Dead Rising and Lost Planet. All this in spite of the PS3 languishing in third place.

So yeah, not much to that theory. Developers will make money off whomever is the market leader. Who it is doesn't matter. Hard to believe, but there isn't some magical fairy dust that gets sprinkled on Playstation discs that make them better games. The install base is good for developers not the name printed on the discs.

[Dezuria]

I have Bioshock for PC but I'd buy it for the PS3 just to play it on the big HDTV in the living room, as opposed to my old 21" CRT..

[Thomas96]

Sounds like a Shane Bettenhousen line of thought. lol

I think Capcom and Ubisoft would have to disagree. Both of which are riding highs they haven't seen in years...due to Wii support(RE4, Red Steel & Rayman), and Capcom hits on the 360 Dead Rising and Lost Planet. All this in spite of the PS3 languishing in third place.

So yeah, not much to that theory. Developers will make money off whomever is the market leader. Who it is doesn't matter. Hard to believe, but there isn't some magical fairy dust that gets sprinkled on Playstation discs that make them better games. The install base is good for developers not the name printed on the discs.


Bioshock on PS3, could help push some PS3s. All games released on PS3 [good games] can help push some PS3s. Besides price drops the PS3 has to have a good library of games. Just becuase the 360 has a good install base, isn't good enough for take two, and other devs, healthy supply of games needs to be all around and a good mix of exclusives for all systems.

[Halo05]

Bioshock on PS3, could help push some PS3s. All games released on PS3 [good games] can help push some PS3s. Besides price drops the PS3 has to have a good library of games. Just becuase the 360 has a good install base, isn't good enough for take two, and other devs, healthy supply of games needs to be all around and a good mix of exclusives for all systems.

It's true that Bioshock (ASAP) would help sell some PS3s, that'd be great for Sony. The issue is that Take Two could care less how many PS3s are sold. The need x number of PS3s to be sold before it becomes worthwhile to port Bioshock (or anything else that's currently 360/PC exclusive).

[zerolens]

It's true that Bioshock (ASAP) would help sell some PS3s, that'd be great for Sony. The issue is that Take Two could care less how many PS3s are sold. The need x number of PS3s to be sold before it becomes worthwhile to port Bioshock (or anything else that's currently 360/PC exclusive).

They had already started a PS3 version before MS stepped in. They weren't waiting for x number of PS3's to be sold. You either take a risk and go for it or you move on to newer projects IMO. If they wait a year or two for the number to increase the game will be old as dirt and newer fresher games (not to mention tons more competition) will be on the PS3.

If every company had this mentality the 360 and PS3 would only have 1st party games and other companies would twiddle their thumbs waiting for that magical number to be sold. And yes Take Two would care how many are sold, before, during, or after a PS3 Bioshock. They will likely release more games for PS3 in the future, every game helps push people into next-gen instead of sitting on the sidelines.

Lastly the game shipped 1.5 million. That makes the likelihood of pulling a profit on the PS3 greater since the game seems to have a lot of appeal to large numbers of people.

[Thomas96]

It's true that Bioshock (ASAP) would help sell some PS3s, that'd be great for Sony. The issue is that Take Two could care less how many PS3s are sold. The need x number of PS3s to be sold before it becomes worthwhile to port Bioshock (or anything else that's currently 360/PC exclusive).


that's right, I'm just pointing out that it could be a win(sony) win(taketwo) situation, if more ps3s sell then that's just another possible taketwo custmer.

[mykevermin]

It's true that Bioshock (ASAP) would help sell some PS3s, that'd be great for Sony. The issue is that Take Two could care less how many PS3s are sold. The need x number of PS3s to be sold before it becomes worthwhile to port Bioshock (or anything else that's currently 360/PC exclusive).

Thus the catch-22. THQ realized this: that they could not sell Saint's Row for $60 as a new release on the PS3 and as a $30 Platinum Hit on the 360, so they canned the PS3 port.

[Inf^Shini]

o_O, anyways, I'd like bioshock to come to the PS3, that would be pretty nifty. Seeing as how it would be on BD, they could throw in some goodies, tweaks n stuff, appease and please the PS3 crowd ;)

I'll let someone else take that last post, if it tickles their fancy.

[Thomas96]

LOL Bioshock is for the 360 exclusive. Its not 4 the PScrapzerz bitches. Not coming to PScrap


I'm going to call your mother, and have her change your diaper immediately... so that you can stop talking shit. But thanks for the update. Feel free to troll around the Sony forums, our casa es su casa

[Thomas96]

Sounds like a Shane Bettenhousen line of thought. lol

I think Capcom and Ubisoft would have to disagree. Both of which are riding highs they haven't seen in years...due to Wii support(RE4, Red Steel & Rayman), and Capcom hits on the 360 Dead Rising and Lost Planet. All this in spite of the PS3 languishing in third place.

So yeah, not much to that theory. Developers will make money off whomever is the market leader. Who it is doesn't matter. Hard to believe, but there isn't some magical fairy dust that gets sprinkled on Playstation discs that make them better games. The install base is good for developers not the name printed on the discs.


I don't think that Capcom and Ubisoft are going to put their best foot forward on the Wii... they may give some rehashes, and use the profits to fund bigger projects. When a game sales, all names on that disc get paid... dev and other name on the disc. [sony] There's no AAA title on the PS3. The PS3 needs a game that 10/10, across the board. No 7.1 from here, then 8.0 here, and a 8.5 here. Oh I wish here was some magical fairy dust, cause PS3 sure can use every adavantage it can get.

[62t]

At this point Take Two will take whatever they can get. Just like the PS3 version of Oblivion.

[Halo05]

LOL Bioshock is for the 360 exclusive. Its not 4 the PScrapzerz bitches. Not coming to PScrap

I demand that you take the SNK out of your name. And go back to Gamefaqs. We're "talkin' bout that PS Triple" here.

[NamelessMC]

As long as a developer isn't a sister company to Microsoft/Sony, don't count on anything being "exclusive". Not even Microsoft could pursuade Capcom to stay loyal because of the giant that's becoming Nintendo.

The fact that Sony was in talks with Take-Two to buy them means that they've already been in "bed" with Take-Two. That means good corporation relationship. The fact that Take-Two is suggesting multi-platform is another hint of this. If they had bad terms with Sony from the buyout attempt, they wouldn't even hint a multi-platform version.

And trust me, when they say "Multi-platform" they're DIRECTLY suggesting the PS3, especially when the Nintendo Wii isn't an HD system.

The only companies Microsoft handles as far as exclusives are Bungie and Microsoft Studios (Forza Motorsport, Halo). Even Epig games told Microsoft to take a hike and took Gears of War to PC.

[Inf^Shini]

I got a question, does Bioshock really not allow you to remap the controls (i.e. Your left-handed)?
I'm a right-handed person myself, but according to a south-paw reviewer, the basic option to remap the controls is non-existant :X
If they really do decide to port it to the PS3, I hope they include that option to get the left-handed crowd in :D

[guinaevere]

SNKMat: No trolling. No idiotic fanboy, personal-opinion-without-actual-facts posts that will derail this thread.


When I first read the release in the OP, I took it as 'we'll see if we can pimp the game out on the DS or PSP in some stripped down form.' But I'd like to see how well they could port it (back-ish) to the 3.

[trq]

Even Epig games told Microsoft to take a hike and took Gears of War to PC.

Yeah, I'm sure another high-profile game for Vista is just breaking Microsoft's heart.

Whatever. The amazing amount of dumbness in this thread aside, I'd be quite surprised if there wasn't a PS3 version. There's nothing 360-centric about the game -- it wasn't partly MS financed like Gears, there are no features that couldn't port to the PS3, and it's sold enough that they don't NEED the PS3 sales, however much they'd like them, so unless the port would take so long as to be pointless, I fully expect it to go the Oblivion route too. And that's a good thing, because the game is awesome. Then again, I would have bet Dead Rising and Lost Planet ports would make some easy side cash for Capcom, however slight, so maybe I'm wrong.

[Vanigan]

Actually, MS did finance gears. They basically paid for the game in exchange for an exclusive. That's the way second party developers work.

The reason why Gears is coming to the PC is because microsoft wanted one last ditch effort to promote games for windows live, and promote Vista too. I suspect had they led the GFW live with Gears it would have done better, but now MS has put it aside.


The problem? I'm not sure the extra content will be enough. I do think it'll sell well on the PC. But otherwise it's an old game, everyone who wanted to play it has played it. And even then, it's really nothing special on the PC shooter market.

[espywork]

It could happen, but I doubt it. If Microsoft is smart they will keep that as an exclusive. Then they will have the big three Halo/Bio Shock/Gears. Possibly four since Ninja Gaiden 2 seems to be a X360 exclusive for the time being.

Ninja Gaiden 2 is an X360 exclusive. Microsoft is bankrolling development for it.

[trq]

Actually, MS did finance gears. They basically paid for the game in exchange for an exclusive. That's the way second party developers work.

The reason why Gears is coming to the PC is because microsoft wanted one last ditch effort to promote games for windows live, and promote Vista too. I suspect had they led the GFW live with Gears it would have done better, but now MS has put it aside..

If that's for me, that's pretty much what I was saying: that MS didn't partly fund BioShock like they did Gears, so that's one less thing keeping it exclusive.

[NamelessMC]

Yeah, I'm sure another high-profile game for Vista is just breaking Microsoft's heart.

Whatever. The amazing amount of dumbness in this thread aside, I'd be quite surprised if there wasn't a PS3 version. There's nothing 360-centric about the game -- it wasn't partly MS financed like Gears, there are no features that couldn't port to the PS3, and it's sold enough that they don't NEED the PS3 sales, however much they'd like them, so unless the port would take so long as to be pointless, I fully expect it to go the Oblivion route too. And that's a good thing, because the game is awesome. Then again, I would have bet Dead Rising and Lost Planet ports would make some easy side cash for Capcom, however slight, so maybe I'm wrong.

I hope your second paragraph wasn't intended for me, because I stepped in here before you saying that there's no reason it won't go to the PS3.

As far as Capcom- They have a lot of fluctuations and Lost Planet had a PC port. I haven't heard of much from Capcom as far as PS3 goes but it's like the magazines say, "at the moment, developers leaving PS3 because of lackluster sales aren't helping the situation". If anything, Capcom's probably waiting before they pull the trigger. Aside from DMC4 and Super Puzzle Fighter 2 HD Remix, I haven't heard a lot from Capcom for PS3.

I guess it's hopeful that they crushed the DMC4 going 360 at launch rumor, but if they had strong support for PS3, there's no reason they should've held back on bringing Lost Planet and/or Dead Rising to PS3. Lost Planet maybe, because it being ported to PC leads me to believe Direct X API might've had a huge part in its 360 development, but Dead Rising wasn't ported to PC.

[help1]

This game is a bit overrated, but still a good one. If it goes to PS3, I see no harm. 360 has tons of other games, and my cousin who has only a PS3 is dying to play Bioshock.

In other words, let the gamers play!

[BULL_Ship]

Lost Planet maybe, because it being ported to PC leads me to believe Direct X API might've had a huge part in its 360 development, but Dead Rising wasn't ported to PC.

Im pretty sure he's talking about you because its a well known fact that dead rising and lost planet were built on the same pc based middle ware. It would in fact port easily to ps3 with some time but Microsoft paid for exclusivity note the pc version is under the heading "Games for windows".

I think a bioshock port is nearly assured since the pc version uses sony's craptacular copy protection. Not that its easy to break but it takes a big crap all over your system.

[NamelessMC]

Im pretty sure he's talking about you because its a well known fact that dead rising and lost planet were built on the same pc based middle ware. It would in fact port easily to ps3 with some time but Microsoft paid for exclusivity note the pc version is under the heading "Games for windows".

I think a bioshock port is nearly assured since the pc version uses sony's craptacular copy protection. Not that its easy to break but it takes a big crap all over your system.

So he was talking to me about something I was going to say in the future? Because my post is the first time I've mentioned Lost Planet or Dead Rising in this entire thread, so I don't see where you get any of the backing for your post from. :applause:

I was saying he better not be talking about me when he said "This thread is filled with stupidity" because I never said Bioshock will stay 360 exclusive and I never said anything about any titles other than Gears of War or the thread's title, Bioshock itself.

[BULL_Ship]

So he was talking to me about something I was going to say in the future? Because my post is the first time I've mentioned Lost Planet or Dead Rising in this entire thread, so I don't see where you get any of the backing for your post from. :applause:

I was saying he better not be talking about me when he said "This thread is filled with stupidity" because I never said Bioshock will stay 360 exclusive and I never said anything about any titles other than Gears of War or the thread's title, Bioshock itself.

Thats the beauty of it, you don't even have to look back. If what you say later is stupid it's easy to determine that what you said before was also stupid.

[Corvin]

Dead Rising? Lost Planet? Bioshock?

Isn't this the problem with the PS3 already? Nothing but ports and lackluster originals? Oblivion is the only port equivilent to if not higher rated than the 360 counterpart. Every other port scores significantly less. Is that what people really want? More half-assed ports? Interesting.

Instead of chasing 360 exclusives with a checkbook, why not pony up for something original of their own to get people talking about your system in a good way? Seriously. It's that or the alternative - a glance into the future:

Bioshock - coming soon. It was awesome 9 months ago on the 360. You loved it then, and you'll love it now for your PS3. Experience it for the low cost of $60. Nevermind that you can now get it for $30 on the 360. It's still good. We promise.

[Thomas96]

Dead Rising? Lost Planet? Bioshock?

Isn't this the problem with the PS3 already? Nothing but ports and lackluster originals? Oblivion is the only port equivilent to if not higher rated than the 360 counterpart. Every other port scores significantly less. Is that what people really want? More half-assed ports? Interesting.

Instead of chasing 360 exclusives with a checkbook, why not pony up for something original of their own to get people talking about your system in a good way? Seriously. It's that or the alternative - a glance into the future:

Bioshock - coming soon. It was awesome 9 months ago on the 360. You loved it then, and you'll love it now for your PS3. Experience it for the low cost of $60. Nevermind that you can now get it for $30 on the 360. It's still good. We promise.

Sony's chasing people with a bankbook? - Well I hope you enjoy your 50 million dollar GTA content when the game is released.
anyway...
Having games on the PS3 is good, because its not always just ONE game that makes a person purchase a system, but the library overall that the system has.

Sony has two goals... make PS3 cheap, and help devs get the most out of PS3, and be able to make high quality good games up and running quickly and efficiently.

[Corvin]

Touche!

I think everyone agrees that the system needs games, but it has turned into a dumping ground instead of home to great originals. Adding games like Bioshock, Dead Rising and Lost Planet doesn't help distance them from that perspective. Then the PS3 just becomes Xbox 2.0. Do people really want that?

[_scott]

This game is a bit overrated, but still a good one. If it goes to PS3, I see no harm. 360 has tons of other games, and my cousin who has only a PS3 is dying to play Bioshock.

In other words, let the gamers play!

Yeah, I own a PS3 only and really wanted to play Bioshock to. I couldn't do so on my computer (I don't have a shader model 3 card) so I thought I was pretty much out of luck. I'm wary of buying an xbox at this time (it will happen at some point). But, I was also even more wary of posting anything about Bioshock coming to the PS3 as most places (Digg) would flame you into the pre-internet era :roll:. So this news a glimmer of hope.

For 2k to put this out on as many platforms as possible is simply good and intelligent business. The game itself may be over-rated, but like all things you don't or can't have - you want it more.

[Inf^Shini]

As for porting games from 360 to PS3, I really see no problem with it AS LONG as it's done on a timely basis, mainly not allowing much time to pass from the 360 to the PS3 release.

Using the games mentioned in this thread already, Dead Rising/Lost Planet have been out too long for a port to make any sense, but with a game like Oblivion which has been so loved by the gaming community it would make sense, especially with the fixes they made to the PS3 version + the added expansion (Although I'll wait on the GOTY edition for all the extra content, wish they would have made the content available on PSN :/).
I could see a Bioshock port plausible if they don't kick the idea around for too long, but once months pass and price drops start coming into effect, it'll lose a lot of ground in porting it to the PS3.

I honestly don't see any problem with a game being ported from the 360, it'll just add to the PS3 library and appease some of the crowd, but of course, it can never fill the void of an excellent PS3 exclusive.

[uncle5555]

Dead Rising? Lost Planet? Bioshock?

Isn't this the problem with the PS3 already? Nothing but ports and lackluster originals? Oblivion is the only port equivilent to if not higher rated than the 360 counterpart. Every other port scores significantly less. Is that what people really want? More half-assed ports? Interesting.

Instead of chasing 360 exclusives with a checkbook, why not pony up for something original of their own to get people talking about your system in a good way? Seriously. It's that or the alternative - a glance into the future:

Bioshock - coming soon. It was awesome 9 months ago on the 360. You loved it then, and you'll love it now for your PS3. Experience it for the low cost of $60. Nevermind that you can now get it for $30 on the 360. It's still good. We promise.

I agree with what you say about not wanting ports and stuff, but like the poster after you said, I have no interest in getting a 360 (especially since RRoD is so prevalent), and I don't feel I need another system as of yet.

You know 360 owners want MGS4, but so far it ain't happening. I want Bioshock, it was gonna happen, then M$, stepped in and stopped it for the time being. And Ken Levine basically said in an interview he wouldn't talk about timed exclusive details (Ie. Basically saying yeah we're doing a port, but I can't say anything without M$ bitch slapping me for stealing their thunder)

Lost Planet and Dead Rising (Dead Rising X was a rumored PS3 version sometime ago) got the hammer thrown down on them because M$ pulled the big bag o' money tm out and convinced Capcom to not let them out.

And the chances of them being ported are less and less each passing day (Ie. meaning we'll never see the originals on the PS3 because they're getting too old and the return on them will be too minimal for the time it would take for a port job)

But honestly there are many good games coming out by years end, and through out the next 12 months to be happy with owning a PS3 and to make the other systems jealous, but has a port ever killed a system, no the only thing it does is benefit folks who make a choice and hope they get to play what others get as well. And I don't think that is such a bad thing now is it?

[Thomas96]

Take-two has released most of their games on xbox 360... the console with biggest user base, yet they're still in the red. Based on this, I think maybe its a myth that releasing a game on 360 is going to guarantee high revenue due to its large userbase. Maybe take-two is learning a lesson that other developers will learn - release your game on multiple consoles, unless you're getting paid to keep it exclusive.

[Corvin]

Take-two has released most of their games on xbox 360... the console with biggest user base, yet they're still in the red.

They also released Bully on the PS2's 117 million user base, yet good reviews couldn't sell it.

The platform they choose for each game means little, IMO. If the company that owns GTA can't turn a profit they are doing something wrong.

[Thomas96]

They also released Bully on the PS2's 117 million user base, yet good reviews couldn't sell it.

The platform they choose for each game means little, IMO. If the company that owns GTA can't turn a profit they are doing something wrong.


TT is on the verge of becoming a big time dev. If they can deliver more quality titles like Darkness and Bioshock, I think they'll get themselves well out of the red. They really earned a good name for themselves.

[SNKMat]

lol. Bioshock is exclusive. Its the same as MGS4 or FF145487545676777. They wont go to the 360.

[Thomas96]

lol. Bioshock is exclusive. Its the same as MGS4 or FF145487545676777. They wont go to the 360.


360 can have it.. as long as MS is paying... that way TT less likely to be in the red.