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CheapyD
09-13-2007, 03:18 AM
This week's show features CheapyD's TGS preview and Wombat's two surprise Sony purchases. We also answer your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) questions, discuss the latest gaming and shopping news, the skateboarding and hockey games battles, Metroid Prime 3, Silent Hill Arcade, and so much more!

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Intro music: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis)

Silent Hill Arcade (http://www.tech2.com/india/news/games/silent-hill-arcade-game-revealed/4333/0)
MCV Games Media Awards: CAGcast Nominated for Best Podcast
(http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28177/Games-Media-Awards-finalists-revealed)There You Go, Everybody Drink Remix (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../podcast/There%20You%20Go%20%28Everybody%20Drink%29.mp3)
TheCity.com Lookup (http://www.whois.sc/thecity.com)

CAG Foreplay Podcast #16: It's Like Evil Gravity (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cag-foreplay-podcast-16-its-like-evil-gravity.php)

Wii Overtakes Xbox 360, Says Finance Site (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7146&Itemid=2)
Lair Reviewer's Guide (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/818/818597p1.html)

Xbox 360 TGS Announcements (http://www.xbox.com/en-us/community/news/2007/0911-blockbusterlineup.htm)
(http://www.xbox.com/en-us/community/news/2007/0911-blockbusterlineup.htm) Xbox 360 Users to be shafted on Rock Band Wireless Guitars (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151949)
RE5 and Puzzle Fighter HD Wallpapers free on PSN, not free on XBL (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151770)
Xbox Live Originals contest ends on a puppy-chokingly unfunny note (http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-live-originals-contest-ends-on-a-puppy-chokingly-unfunny-note-43480.phtml)
Guitar Hero II DLC Goes Multi-platinum (http://xbox360.joystiq.com/2007/09/11/guitar-hero-ii-dlc-goes-multi-platinum/)

GameQuest Direct Weekly CAG Offers (Exp 9/17) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/gamequest-direct-weekly-cag-offers-exp-917.php)
GameStop to retool layout of its stores to include newer genres of games (http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Destructoid/%7E3/155630388/gamestop-to-retool-layout-of-its-stores-to-include-newer-genres-of-games-43914.phtml)

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Outro: Sky Shark (NES) (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=6258)



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SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy
09-13-2007, 04:43 AM
Whoring out for a little bit of money I see. I am quite disappointed. Now the CAGcast will be soiled with ads for crap no one will even care about or buy... Just so Wombat can get a couple bucks. With all the kick backs this site gets for referals, Wombat should just get money without these stupid methods. If the money was going to a good cause or all to Wombat, it would be a different story. Wombat deserves things but not through this channel.

All you who support this move are blind.

First it was being a whore for free games, then digs, and now it's for money. What's next?

I love listen to the CAGcast because of what it brought and they way they did. Now it's probably slowly going to turn into Ad-cast.

JDUB X
09-13-2007, 04:56 AM
Thanks :applause:

I Will listen soon

MORT A POTTY
09-13-2007, 05:00 AM
will get them envelopes out tomorrow just to be sure :)

JackFlash666
09-13-2007, 05:26 AM
Sweet - I know I got a couple stamps lying around. Also, congrats on racking up 90 episodes! Giving out "free" shit is a great way to celebrate.

A Happy Panda
09-13-2007, 06:08 AM
Thank god you guys posted this. I usually listen to podcasts between the hours of 1 am and 5 am (I'm pretty sure I have a kind of insomnia) and I ran out! Then I looked on the front page and voila, new CAGcast!.

kPod
09-13-2007, 07:06 AM
Sounds like Silent Hill has stolen House of the Dead Voice Actors. xD

rogueweapon
09-13-2007, 07:06 AM
Wombat, they always say they have another bid. Dont believe the hype. The realestate market is falling apart, and its going to get worse. Cheapy should expect more earthquakes.

KingBroly
09-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Metroid Prime 3 is NOT a rental, period. Cheapy, I hope you remembered to toggle your controls for the game, aka Advanced controls because they work so much better than default controls.

EDIT:
Another good show. But once again, I must call in Professor Pronunciation for the following:

Ninja Gaiden (Guide-n)

There you go.

McBacon
09-13-2007, 08:16 AM
Nice show

The difference between the Lair reviewers guide and the sheets of paper we reviewers get in the jiffy bag is that the reviewes gudie was sent out after the game had been reviewed by these major outlets. Was Sony trying to make them review it again with this new knowledge of how the controls really work?

I agree that people are spinning this shit too much, but I just wanted to chime in

Also that blister picture nearly made me lose my lunch.

ChryZ
09-13-2007, 08:21 AM
I'm a long time listener and really love the podcast.

My preferred platform is PS3, so I'm well informed about it and noticed quite a few factual issues in the last few podcasts. I'd like to point them out here:

-"Super Stardust HD is taking too long", arcade mode can indeed take a couple of hours if you're good (my 216M run took 2h), BUT there is a planet mode and it's about highscores for each planet, so it only takes a few minutes for a single planet run.

-"Warhawk/ranked servers", you can host your own ranked server. See the manual for useful hints: http://www.us.playstation.com/Warhawk/warhawk_manual.pdf

-"Warhawk would be better on LIVE", LIVE is nice and all, but SCEA and SCEE DO host a bunch of dedicated servers and the initial title/launch rush is calming down in the last few days. Lately it's a lot easier to find open slots on those free servers.

-"Selling PS3 with DLC adds value to the system", true ... but CheapyD mentioned Warhawk as an example and that's one of the few exceptions. Warhawk (PSN version only) is bound to your PSN account and can only be used by that account. So you have to sell your PSN account with the PS3 in order to transfer ownership of the DLC. If that's a problem, then the retail disc would have been the better purchase.

-"Having your friends on LIVE makes a difference", I got my friends on PSN and it makes a difference and all the nice things you guys said about LIVE hold true for me and my folks on PSN. It's just a matter of the view point, don't use it to quantify a service.

steverl22
09-13-2007, 09:25 AM
Damn good show, wombat use the psp's RSS feature to download podcast to your psp. It's nice and easy to do!


*EDIT*

The guy above me has some really great points, thanks for adding FACTS to the show. I'm getting tried of podcasters pulling **** out of their ass.

Silverwolf
09-13-2007, 09:52 AM
What the hell!!! It look's like you're growing a giant nipple on your foot.

InuFaye
09-13-2007, 09:57 AM
I dont understand why people keep saying heavenly sword is just a rental. The game has a ton of unlockables in the game and a ton of stuff to do once you finish. The orignial God of War was only 5 or 6 hours long and the second was only 2 hours longer. If you are gonna say heavenly sword is a rental then you gotta admit god of war is a rental.

Plus to the guy who is bitching about ads. You dont pay for the CagCast and you can always fast foreward past them. Please STFU. Cheapy and Wombat never asked for a penny from you, and if they can make a small bit of cash on the side to help them out then I stand by them and support them.

Cheapy and Wombat>>>>>You

A Happy Panda
09-13-2007, 10:02 AM
I dont understand why people keep saying heavenly sword is just a rental. The game has a ton of unlockables in the game and a ton of stuff to do once you finish. The orignial God of War was only 5 or 6 hours long and the second was only 2 hours longer. If you are gonna say heavenly sword is a rental then you gotta admit god of war is a rental.

Plus to the guy who is bitching about ads. You dont pay for the CagCast and you can always fast foreward past them. Please STFU. Cheapy and Wombat never asked for a penny from you, and if they can make a small bit of cash on the side to help them out then I stand by them and support them.

Cheapy and Wombat>>>>>You

Err. Unless you were some kind of freak at the game, God of War 1 was at the very least 10 hours and God of War 2 is about 12.

twen
09-13-2007, 10:21 AM
62 minutes in currently, appreciate you guys mentioning me. :)

AFAIK, Starbucks doesn't have free Wifi, but is indeed a T-Mobile Hotspot, and if you go into your PSP settings, you can get 6 months of free T-Mobile Hotspot access. There you go.

NinjaMajik
09-13-2007, 10:40 AM
Wombat, congratulations on the new psp. I hope for the love of God you get yourself a screen protector. I don't have a psp slim so I don't know about the screen scratching but I highly recommend the Hori screen protector.

twen
09-13-2007, 10:47 AM
NinjaMajik: I have a regular PSP that I've stored everywhere and never had to worry about the screen scratching...the side of the case however, is a different story, when I got it stuck in the little compartment below my CD player, and had to take it out with a screwdriver.

youruglyclone
09-13-2007, 11:01 AM
happy belated birthday CheapyD

can't knit for the life of me, but how about those who want to contribute to lil' cheapy's college fund? or the "let cheapy give a speech at TGS" fund?

the boil: ugh...I'm swearing off all gummie candies.

InuFaye
09-13-2007, 11:23 AM
Err. Unless you were some kind of freak at the game, God of War 1 was at the very least 10 hours and God of War 2 is about 12.

Unless the puzzles took you forever. I remmber beating the game in an afternoon.

xrayzwei
09-13-2007, 11:31 AM
re: chry-z and servers

In my reading of the Warhawk manual it looks like you can create your own dedicated ranked server, but either can't play on it -or- if you play on it YOUR rank doesn't go up. Is this what happens in practice, or can you improve your rank this way? Anybody?

4nik8tor
09-13-2007, 11:34 AM
Nintendo is outselling the xbox because soccer moms know the name Nintendo.
Nintendo has managed to tap into the non-gaming market by packaging a [simple] game that get talked about around the water cooler. I've seen it first hand.
People not necessarily into video games really like Wii Sports and talk about it to others.
Even the non-traditional gamer mom remembers Mario bros. and Nintendo.

they're not as familiar with Xbox, and no kid in their right mind wants a ps3.

thorbahn3
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
I thought Wombat's PS3 didn't work online for more than like 20 minutes. So how did you last on Warhawk? Starbucks charges for wi-fi access. $6 bucks for 24 hour access: http://news.com.com/2100-1039-990487.html

LiK
09-13-2007, 12:26 PM
I thought Wombat's PS3 didn't work online for more than like 20 minutes. So how did you last on Warhawk? Starbucks charges for wi-fi access. $6 bucks for 24 hour access: http://news.com.com/2100-1039-990487.html

rumor from 1up was that the latest PS3 firmware update had something to do with Warhawk and its online stability.

daphatty
09-13-2007, 12:41 PM
Ok, I must have missed the follow up thread on the likelyhood of adverts in Cag casts. Would it be possible for you to tell us the specific times that the commercials actually appear in the show notes?

G-Dog
09-13-2007, 01:04 PM
I just wanted to give my 2 cents about the Wii outselling the 360 and PS3 by biblical proportions and nobody can figure out why. There was a time when I was a hardcore gamer. But a few years ago I got married, got a house with a mortgage, and had a child.

So why am I not interested in a 360 or PS3?

Time – I have severely limited free time. I don’t want to waste it on a three hour tutorial noob level for some overly complicated game that was released six months too early.

Money – We don’t rely on mommy and daddy. I’m lucky that I get to spend $15 a week on comic books, and I have to sacrifice eating lunch at work to afford that. Looking at the insane number of home foreclosures in my city, I’m not the only person that needs to be tight with money. At $15 a week, how long will it take to save for a 360 or PS3? Our savings account and my sons college fund are a hell of a lot more important than Forza or Metal Gear.

Desire – I just don’t care about the games that are out these days. I can’t find a single compelling title that would warrant the purchase of a system (plus accessories) that would cost as much as my monthly house payment. I don’t care about my l33T cred or whatever the racist Halo X-Box Live Trolls call it these days, and even the best games are still written like a 12 year old girls fan fiction. Plus, I’ve never had a comic book or novel crash half way then force me to start over (corrupt KOTOR 2 saves). Also, too many games today feel like work and are just no fun.

What games do I play? My wife and I have a couple DS’s and we play Clubhouse games and Zoo Keeper now and again. We play Wii at our friend’s houses, and want to get one for X-Mas. A Wii, not an Xbox or PS3. The Wii imply suits out lifestyles better.

UncleBob
09-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Cheapy - Check out this blister my wife got on her finger once when making mashed potatoes... badly...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/TheUncleBob/finger.jpg

twen
09-13-2007, 01:32 PM
Well there you go.

Thanks UncleBob for making me sick :-P

bobthecat23
09-13-2007, 01:35 PM
great cagcast cheapy and thanks for mentioning me wombat y are u going thorugh ur psp while doing the cagcast y cant u stay focused and just do the cagcast

AwRy108
09-13-2007, 01:36 PM
WOMBAT:

Now that you have a PSP, here's a list of games you MUST check out:

>Jeane D'Arc ($30) (MUST-PLAY TITLE!!!!)
>Burnout Legends ($20)
>Exit ($9 @ Best Buy)
>GTA Liberty City Stories ($30)
>GTA Vice City Stories ($20)
>Gurumin--A Monstrous Adventure ($20)
>CRUSH ($30)
>Lumines II ($20)
>Megaman Powered-up ($20)
>Megaman Maverick Hunter X ($20)
>Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops ($22 @ Circuit City)
>Puzzle Quest ($30) (MUST-PLAY TITLE!!!)
>Ratchet & Clank--Size Matters ($40)
>SEGA Genesis Collection ($30)
>Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX ($20)
>Sid Meier's Pirates! ($20)
>TEKKEN Dark Resurrection ($20)
>Tony Hawk's Underground 2 ($20)
>Twisted Metal Head-on ($20)
>The Warriors ($20)
>Valkyrie Profile Lenneth ($20)
>Wipeout Pure ($20)

...if you're tight for cash, then just get Jeane D'Arc--it'll pretty much justify your purchase of the system.

twen
09-13-2007, 01:49 PM
Some of those prices seem awfully high, $30 for LCS?

Punk_Raven
09-13-2007, 01:58 PM
Nice music choice. Sonic FTW.

twen
09-13-2007, 02:00 PM
So including my song, how many times was There You Go said this time?

cdrober
09-13-2007, 02:05 PM
Great show this week guys! I get the thing about the drugs during birth. I did farely well in school and University and my attributes it to her not drinking any coffee, alcohol, or taking any pain medications during her pregnancy and during birth. Now I haven't had a kid yet nor do I have a wife (but I'm working on it;), but those thoughts are found here in the US too.

Are they true or not? I don't know, just sharing my experience so I won't argue one way or the other. I think that whatever your wife decides to do Cheapy is what she should do, I hope you both have a great and exciting time going though this parenting thing.

twen
09-13-2007, 02:09 PM
I think the drug thing may be true -- only because we have a bunch of fucking retards in this country nowadays. But that's my two cents.

cool8man
09-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Ninja Gaiden 2 is being published by Microsoft not Tecmo so it is a real Xbox 360 exclusive like Gears of War. It will not be on PS3 next year as you claimed on the show.

AwRy108
09-13-2007, 02:25 PM
Ninja Gaiden 2 is being published by Microsoft not Tecmo so it is a real Xbox 360 exclusive like Gears of War. It will not be on PS3 next year as you claimed on the show.

To add to the pic. in your signature:

XBox 360: 10 million Red Rings of Death

Bojizzle
09-13-2007, 02:27 PM
Ninja Gaiden 2 is being published by Microsoft not Tecmo so it is a real Xbox 360 exclusive like Gears of War. It will not be on PS3 next year as you claimed on the show.
Why isn't the Wii number up there on your sig?
Oh yeah, Wii outsold 360... and in less than 1 year!

stonefry
09-13-2007, 03:21 PM
Whoring out for a little bit of money I see. I am quite disappointed.... First it was being a whore for free games, then digs, and now it's for money. What's next?
Um ... money is pretty much the last thing. Do you think they are going to want sex next? They can just use the money and buy some.

I love listen to the CAGcast because of what it brought and they way they did. Now it's probably slowly going to turn into Ad-cast.
Just get over it dude. If a company is willing to pay to advertise on the CAGcast, Cheapy and Wombat deserve to get paid.

-stonefry

LiK
09-13-2007, 03:26 PM
Ninja Gaiden 2 is being published by Microsoft not Tecmo so it is a real Xbox 360 exclusive like Gears of War. It will not be on PS3 next year as you claimed on the show.

yea, it's gonna be a sweet game.

kjauburn
09-13-2007, 03:26 PM
I will give the Wii Zapper a try when it hits just out of curiousity and $20 isn't bad. For it to hold people's attention long term they really need to include support for the wii balance board on on wii zapper games. If the games were like Virtua Cop and Time crisis with the balance board used for duck/cover it could be interesting. However I can't picture myself getting off the couch standing on a board to shoot with a piece of plastic add on.

SpreadTheWord
09-13-2007, 03:28 PM
As I'm listening to this weeks show there are a few things that I have to say.

1. NHL 2k8 score. 4.0 does not mean the game is broken. Last years game got a 6.5 and it sounds like they didn't make as many changes as they could have, and some of the changes in the game made is worse. How should the score change if you put out last years sports with nothing but a new year on the box? 1Up gave NHK 2k7 a 6.5. If you don't make any changes the game should be, at most, a 5.5. They made bad changes and the competition stepped it up for hockey games leaving 2k8n the past. If you take off half a point for each offense you have a 4.5.

2. Nick's beard rocks! It's iconic. All you have to do is say "The bearded guy from 1Up," and people will know who you mean. I think you're right about videogame "talking heads" being more presentable but don't tell me you want everyone to look as fake as Kevin Pereira?

Jazar
09-13-2007, 03:31 PM
I would just like to reiterate what Chryz said on the first page:

ANYONE can host a ranked game in Warhawk.

You can tell which servers are ranked by the trophy icon on the left side of the browser.

shadowrep
09-13-2007, 03:36 PM
where do i mail to since i live in the UK? and how long will it take frm me to bak PM me pls cheapyD

linkpwns
09-13-2007, 03:42 PM
Twen is a friggin genious. This song is very fun...

The Mana Knight
09-13-2007, 03:49 PM
Wombat, I listed the great PSP games in this thread (post #13):
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151681

Anyway, I didn't listen to it yet (about to), but I heard on another forum my name was mention? Looks like I'm a celebrity here too. :P
I'm a long time listener and really love the podcast.

My preferred platform is PS3, so I'm well informed about it and noticed quite a few factual issues in the last few podcasts. I'd like to point them out here:

-"Super Stardust HD is taking too long", arcade mode can indeed take a couple of hours if you're good (my 216M run took 2h), BUT there is a planet mode and it's about highscores for each planet, so it only takes a few minutes for a single planet run.

-"Warhawk/ranked servers", you can host your own ranked server. See the manual for useful hints: http://www.us.playstation.com/Warhawk/warhawk_manual.pdf

-"Warhawk would be better on LIVE", LIVE is nice and all, but SCEA and SCEE DO host a bunch of dedicated servers and the initial title/launch rush is calming down in the last few days. Lately it's a lot easier to find open slots on those free servers.

-"Selling PS3 with DLC adds value to the system", true ... but CheapyD mentioned Warhawk as an example and that's one of the few exceptions. Warhawk (PSN version only) is bound to your PSN account and can only be used by that account. So you have to sell your PSN account with the PS3 in order to transfer ownership of the DLC. If that's a problem, then the retail disc would have been the better purchase.

-"Having your friends on LIVE makes a difference", I got my friends on PSN and it makes a difference and all the nice things you guys said about LIVE hold true for me and my folks on PSN. It's just a matter of the view point, don't use it to quantify a service.I agree. I like it better on PS3 because I wouldn't have to deal with the p2p online gameplay (which is usually laggy), and I have the majority of my good friends on PSN also. Super Stardust HD is one of the most addictive games IMO and I play it constantly.

FriskyTanuki
09-13-2007, 04:03 PM
I thought Wombat's PS3 didn't work online for more than like 20 minutes. So how did you last on Warhawk? Starbucks charges for wi-fi access. $6 bucks for 24 hour access: http://news.com.com/2100-1039-990487.html
If it's like mine, when you get a good connection to a server, any connection problems go away for about as long as you want to play. Wombat was around for awhile and I didn't notice any lag at all for Cheapy's server.

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Wombat, like it's been mentioned before, anybody can create a ranked server. I know Cheapy had splitscreen enabled (as there were a couple duos in the room) which is one of the things you can't have on for a ranked game. If you're looking for ranked games, the first of the three icons in the server listing is for whether it's ranked or not (the other two are friendly fire and password protected servers). Dogfighting rooms (at least on Sony's servers) have it listed in the name, but I think you can find it in the info window to the right in the server listings for the user servers, so you might want to check that, too (use right stick to scroll).

Also, you did well when I was playing with you and Cheapy. Cheapy wasn't playing well, as I shot his Warhawk down with my tank, which is hard to do unless the Warhawk guy's just not paying attention. It's easy and funny to tell who uses motion control for the Warhawk, because it seems like they're FWI (flying while intoxicated), which is how Cheapy looked for the few rounds I played. Cheapy, please vary the modes next time you set up a room, as it would be nice to play some zones or deathmatch.

I've played the demos of the NHL 2K games and a little bit of maybe NHL 2k5 on the PS2 and the controls have always been confusing and overly complicated to me. When I picked up one of the games at the $5 CC sale, I played a few games before trading it in and it was just a mess of a game. I even tried out the All-Stars competition and it was like I was playing with a twig while everybody else had hockey sticks. I'm glad that there's one game that's clearly better than the other because both have been pretty close for the past few years and at that level where they'd both get 7's-8's that wasn't a very convincing score that I should pick up either one.

I was pleasently surprised that Wombat picked up a PSP and I'm glad that there will be a presence in the show, even if it's as small as the DS usually gets. If you want some suggestion, I can make some recommendations on games you might want to look out for in sales or the deals that come up in the forums.

Great show, it was nice to see Wombat doing some work and bring his own topics to the show. Hopefully, Wombat can get the time to outline a whole show, maybe the 100th episode?

I'll have to send out a SASE in the next day or two. Thanks for giving those out for pretty much free.

Edit: Oh yeah, Cheapy, that blister kind of looks like you have a red ring of death on your ankle.

ChryZ
09-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Thanks for the kind feedback.
re: chry-z and servers

In my reading of the Warhawk manual it looks like you can create your own dedicated ranked server, but either can't play on it -or- if you play on it YOUR rank doesn't go up. Is this what happens in practice, or can you improve your rank this way? Anybody? Yeah, hosting a dedicated ranked server means you're not able to play on it. This isn't a limitation of the PSN network though, but more a design choice by Incognito. Anyways my advice would be (with a lively community like CAG), if you're not playing just make a server, protect it with a password, post the details in the warhawk thread, create a few CAG clans, kick user off the server with no CAG tag, when done pay it forward and host a server for a few hours. (CheapyD got fast internets and since his PS3 is collecting dust he might wanna take one for the team ;))

LiK
09-13-2007, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the kind feedback.
Yeah, hosting a dedicated ranked server means you're not able to play on it. This isn't a limitation of the PSN network though, but more a design choice by Incognito. Anyways my advice would be (with a lively community like CAG), if you're not playing just make a server, protect it with a password, post the details in the warhawk thread, create a few CAG clans, kick user off the server with no CAG tag, when done pay it forward and host a server for a few hours. (CheapyD got fast internets and since his PS3 is collecting dust he might wanna take one for the team ;))

yea, a ranked CAG server hosted by Cheapy should be done!

FriskyTanuki
09-13-2007, 04:30 PM
Thanks for the kind feedback.
Yeah, hosting a dedicated ranked server means you're not able to play on it. This isn't a limitation of the PSN network though, but more a design choice by Incognito. Anyways my advice would be (with a lively community like CAG), if you're not playing just make a server, protect it with a password, post the details in the warhawk thread, create a few CAG clans, kick user off the server with no CAG tag, when done pay it forward and host a server for a few hours. (CheapyD got fast internets and since his PS3 is collecting dust he might wanna take one for the team ;))
It seems to be more to prevent cheating (Cheapy hosts server, invites people to just stand still while he kills them all, gaining mad points and ranks in the process) as a lot of the unfortunate stuff (no ranked splitscreen servers) was not allowed on ranked servers for that reason. It makes it fair, so that's not that bad. Maybe Cheapy could get a second PS3 and use that to host? ;)

The Mana Knight
09-13-2007, 04:37 PM
That would be good for Warhawk, because we need a good server for our games. Currently, we have four CAG clans (one is still small, but will be expanded), and it would be great to finally have clan battles.

trip1eX
09-13-2007, 05:46 PM
I just wanted to give my 2 cents about the Wii outselling the 360 and PS3 by biblical proportions and nobody can figure out why. There was a time when I was a hardcore gamer. But a few years ago I got married, got a house with a mortgage, and had a child.

So why am I not interested in a 360 or PS3?

Time – I have severely limited free time. I don’t want to waste it on a three hour tutorial noob level for some overly complicated game that was released six months too early.

Money – We don’t rely on mommy and daddy. I’m lucky that I get to spend $15 a week on comic books, and I have to sacrifice eating lunch at work to afford that. Looking at the insane number of home foreclosures in my city, I’m not the only person that needs to be tight with money. At $15 a week, how long will it take to save for a 360 or PS3? Our savings account and my sons college fund are a hell of a lot more important than Forza or Metal Gear.

Desire – I just don’t care about the games that are out these days. I can’t find a single compelling title that would warrant the purchase of a system (plus accessories) that would cost as much as my monthly house payment. I don’t care about my l33T cred or whatever the racist Halo X-Box Live Trolls call it these days, and even the best games are still written like a 12 year old girls fan fiction. Plus, I’ve never had a comic book or novel crash half way then force me to start over (corrupt KOTOR 2 saves). Also, too many games today feel like work and are just no fun.

What games do I play? My wife and I have a couple DS’s and we play Clubhouse games and Zoo Keeper now and again. We play Wii at our friend’s houses, and want to get one for X-Mas. A Wii, not an Xbox or PS3. The Wii imply suits out lifestyles better.

Exactly.

snowsquirrel
09-13-2007, 05:59 PM
Cheapy,

Pick up NHL for PS3, as it is not region locked.

I don't mind sending you a copy of each if you want. 2k is $50 CAD, and EA's is $60 CAD. I might be able to find cheaper too, I am going to wait until the weekend to pick it up. PM me if you want me to hook you up with an NA PS3 version of either.

ps - Please no one turn this into a ps3/360 version war. I has already been well discussed.

~S

twen
09-13-2007, 06:17 PM
I don't care for the PS3, but snowsquirrel is correct -- all PS3 games are region-free, can't argue with that -- the only thing is PSN is not as good as XBL.

A Happy Panda
09-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Unless the puzzles took you forever. I remmber beating the game in an afternoon.

Well, I think your memory's a bit iffy. God of War 1 did not take 5-6 hours.

InuFaye
09-13-2007, 06:56 PM
I just wanted to give my 2 cents about the Wii outselling the 360 and PS3 by biblical proportions and nobody can figure out why. There was a time when I was a hardcore gamer. But a few years ago I got married, got a house with a mortgage, and had a child.

So why am I not interested in a 360 or PS3?

Time – I have severely limited free time. I don’t want to waste it on a three hour tutorial noob level for some overly complicated game that was released six months too early.

Money – We don’t rely on mommy and daddy. I’m lucky that I get to spend $15 a week on comic books, and I have to sacrifice eating lunch at work to afford that. Looking at the insane number of home foreclosures in my city, I’m not the only person that needs to be tight with money. At $15 a week, how long will it take to save for a 360 or PS3? Our savings account and my sons college fund are a hell of a lot more important than Forza or Metal Gear.

Desire – I just don’t care about the games that are out these days. I can’t find a single compelling title that would warrant the purchase of a system (plus accessories) that would cost as much as my monthly house payment. I don’t care about my l33T cred or whatever the racist Halo X-Box Live Trolls call it these days, and even the best games are still written like a 12 year old girls fan fiction. Plus, I’ve never had a comic book or novel crash half way then force me to start over (corrupt KOTOR 2 saves). Also, too many games today feel like work and are just no fun.

What games do I play? My wife and I have a couple DS’s and we play Clubhouse games and Zoo Keeper now and again. We play Wii at our friend’s houses, and want to get one for X-Mas. A Wii, not an Xbox or PS3. The Wii imply suits out lifestyles better.

This post is the reason gaming is going to hell.

A Happy Panda
09-13-2007, 07:03 PM
This post is the reason gaming is going to hell.

No kidding...at least he has a DS.

vosos102
09-13-2007, 08:41 PM
Quick question about the Wii Zapper--a few games are going to "support" it, like Ghost Squadron and RE: Umbrella Chronicles...what I don't get is how a game can support the thing. It doesn't add any functionality, so technically doesn't every game support it? Isn't it basically just a way to hold the wii remote and zapper, or am I missing something?

The Mana Knight
09-13-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't care for the PS3, but snowsquirrel is correct -- all PS3 games are region-free, can't argue with that -- the only thing is PSN is not as good as XBL.Let's not start a war here. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, is all I'll say. ;)

Wombat
09-13-2007, 10:49 PM
I just to get this straight, so I can make a ranked game in Warhawk but I can't play in my ranked game, so when all the rooms are full and I want to play a ranked game I have to sit and wait? which would explain why when cheapy made a room for us to play in it wasnt ranked, right. this is very convoluted

Warlock TCK
09-14-2007, 12:48 AM
LOVE the Casino Night theme music! Good show, guys. Good show.

That blister is fucking huge! Pop that biznitch.

FriskyTanuki
09-14-2007, 12:59 AM
I just to get this straight, so I can make a ranked game in Warhawk but I can't play in my ranked game, so when all the rooms are full and I want to play a ranked game I have to sit and wait? which would explain why when cheapy made a room for us to play in it wasnt ranked, right. this is very convoluted
That and he had splitscreen enabled, which also isn't allowed in ranked matches.

katzd2007
09-14-2007, 01:54 AM
The Link to the There ya go song does not work does anyone have one that works?

twen
09-14-2007, 03:05 AM
Works fine for me. Both my original link and CheapyD's mirror. Use a browser that doesn't blow perhaps?

cool8man
09-14-2007, 08:46 AM
When Madden '08 sells 1 million copies on Xbox 360 in only 1 month of sales and BioShock sells half a million in only 2 weeks of sales I think there is very little reason to be concerned about the well being of Xbox 360 or next-gen gaming.

Why isn't the Wii number up there on your sig?
Oh yeah, Wii outsold 360... and in less than 1 year!Same reason the Nintendo DS isn't in my sig. Cause they're not in competition with each other for anything. I don't understand why anyone compares Wii to PS3 and 360.


Who cares if Wii outsells 360? Does it matter that DS and cellphones are outselling 360 too? Is Wii going to suddenly start stealing 3rd party games and exclusives from Xbox 360? No. Developers are only making cheap Wii games to fund their next-gen developments (the same way they do with portables and cellphones). Wii is for casual gamers like cellphone gaming is. It's not something that hardcore gamers care about aside from the rare title now and then. Traditional Nintendo games like Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 are going to become very rare from Nintendo as they realize that their casual games: Wii Play, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Party, etc. are selling more copies and are cheaper to make. Mario Party 8 sold 100K more copies than Metroid Prime 3 in the same time span.

Mario Party 8 - Release Date: 5/29: May NPD 314K
Metroid Prime 3 - Release Date: 8/28: Aug. NPD 218K

Z-Saber
09-14-2007, 11:15 AM
I dont understand why people keep saying heavenly sword is just a rental. The game has a ton of unlockables in the game and a ton of stuff to do once you finish. The orignial God of War was only 5 or 6 hours long and the second was only 2 hours longer. If you are gonna say heavenly sword is a rental then you gotta admit god of war is a rental.God of War is a rental.

PyroGamer
09-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Your wife is strong! You don't want a retarded baby, do yah? ;)

Tapio
09-14-2007, 12:24 PM
There you go..there you go,there you go!
hahaah cracked me up..people should do this kinda stuff more!
if anyone know good free program to do this kinda editions,let me know
i might give a shot

SteveMcQ
09-14-2007, 01:27 PM
It's a tumor.

AwRy108
09-14-2007, 01:29 PM
I don't care for the PS3, but snowsquirrel is correct -- all PS3 games are region-free, can't argue with that -- the only thing is PSN is not as good as XBL.

Agreed, but let me suggest something: check out a fully-patched version of Resistance. Why? It has 95% of the same functionality of XBox LIVE, but across ALL REGIONS and FOR FREE.

Jazar
09-14-2007, 01:56 PM
I just to get this straight, so I can make a ranked game in Warhawk but I can't play in my ranked game, so when all the rooms are full and I want to play a ranked game I have to sit and wait? which would explain why when cheapy made a room for us to play in it wasnt ranked, right. this is very convoluted

Anyone can make a ranked server but it must be dedicated and not pasword protected. So while you can't play on your own ranked server, you do have a lot more options then just the Official Sony servers to play. I believe you can filter to only show ranked games and sort by how full they are.

G-Dog
09-14-2007, 03:21 PM
No kidding...at least he has a DS.
I just want to say that I have a PS2, but I sold most of the games when I sold my Gamecube to pay for my sons doctor bills.

I also have a fairly decient gaming PC. I do freelace graphic design and video production, so I need good hardware.

The last PC game I bought was Oblivion the month it came out.
The last PS2 game I bought was either Fight Night round 3 or Guitar Hero. Got them both about the same time.

twen
09-14-2007, 03:28 PM
Agreed, but let me suggest something: check out a fully-patched version of Resistance. Why? It has 95% of the same functionality of XBox LIVE, but across ALL REGIONS and FOR FREE.

Yeah but you speak of one game. I'll wait til the PS3 has custom firmware functionality like the PSP before picking it up.

LiK
09-14-2007, 03:29 PM
Yeah but you speak of one game. I'll wait til the PS3 has custom firmware functionality like the PSP before picking it up.

Word.

franz ferdinand
09-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Yes! I'm an Internet Batman! Thanks Wombat for correcting Cheapy; him making Matlock references just means he's showing his age...

Great show again guys.

bmulligan
09-14-2007, 10:44 PM
I have two kids but my wife did all the work, obviously. She went natural for the first and opted for the epidural for kid #2. She highly recommends taking the drugs.

Given the choice, after watching my wife both times, I would choose the drugs. Everything was much more pleasant for everyone.

That Twen mix busted my gut this morning while driving to work. Well done maestro !

H.Cornerstone
09-15-2007, 03:36 AM
I would like to take offense to Wombat calling Warhawk the best game on the PS3 as I think that still goes to Super Stardust HD, the greatest 10$ game ever. I probably put more than 10 hours into that game and it's amazing. Warhawk would be number 2. :)

urzishra14
09-15-2007, 02:45 PM
I have yet to pick up a next gen console but plan on getting a 360 later this year because the games are finally starting to become cheap and the games I want are finally coming out. I think that there are many gamers like me who just can't justify the purchase price for only a few games.

GAMERMASTERMAN
09-15-2007, 03:09 PM
i think 4 commercials in 1 podcast is way to many, the only podcast i listen to that has commercials, has 1 30 second in the middle

i think maybe 1 at begging or end, and one one in the middle might be ok, but 2 in the middle, is way to much

i doubt ill listen when those happen, i wanna hear gaming news, not a commercial, id go watch some tv late at night and catch some infommercials if i wanted that

JadedJedi
09-15-2007, 06:25 PM
Where's that "There you go" song download?

Tapio
09-15-2007, 06:30 PM
There you go
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152158

snowsquirrel
09-16-2007, 12:41 AM
I just read an interview with the designer for Uncharted: Drake's Foturne. When asked about what she says when people call it 'Tomb Raider with a Guy' (looking at you Cheapy), her response was good:

What blows me away is that there's somehow room for only one adventure game in video games. Especially when we see so many first person shooters and military shooters and WWII shooters, and nobody says "this is another just a such-and-such." It's such a rich tradition, the action adventure genre, and there's so much room for different interpretations of it.

She then goes on to say the obvious things one would expect like what she thinks is better about her game, blah, blah, blash.

But I like her point. We don't refer to Halo as 'Quake with a Spartan', so why Tomb Raider with a Guy?. :D


================================================
w/r/t NHL:
Please no one turn this into a ps3/360 version war. I has already been well discussed.

the only thing is PSN is not as good as XBL.

At a loss for words.

~S

joebomb77
09-16-2007, 12:57 AM
A couple of things:

1. Haven't played hockey in awhile, I can't afford the new games, so in true CAG fashion I picked up NHL 2K3 for $1.99 at Gamestop and I have to say it kicks ass!

2. Nice CAG blanket!

3. Nice blister, or as I like to call it "War Wound".

XboxHardcore.com
09-16-2007, 02:19 AM
Whoring out for a little bit of money I see. I am quite disappointed. Now the CAGcast will be soiled with ads for crap no one will even care about or buy... Just so Wombat can get a couple bucks. With all the kick backs this site gets for referals, Wombat should just get money without these stupid methods. If the money was going to a good cause or all to Wombat, it would be a different story. Wombat deserves things but not through this channel.

All you who support this move are blind.

First it was being a whore for free games, then digs, and now it's for money. What's next?

I love listen to the CAGcast because of what it brought and they way they did. Now it's probably slowly going to turn into Ad-cast.

Oh STFU, seriously. CheapyD and Wombat both do a great job on the CAGcast and if they can make money while doing so then so be it. They DESERVE it.

And if you think they don't deserve it then you are not a true CAG.

Do you think radio talk show hosts work for free? TV actors? Movie stars?

You think Cheapy and Wombat are being selfish when in face YOU are the selfish one for saying they don't deserve to make some side money.

Oh and this is a podcast which means you can SKIP/FAST FORWARD the commercials!! So there is NO reason to complain about ads!

fatbeer
09-16-2007, 02:21 AM
Some more useless information. This is how you pronounce PlayAsia's shoot em up Soldner (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=S%F6ldner&relink=on) Himmelsstürmer (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=Himmelsst%FCrmer&relink=on). Strangly enough, the word means mercenary romantic idealist

bmulligan
09-16-2007, 01:51 PM
I don't understand all the hate for commercials and that 4 is too many. 4 commercials in a free hour and a half show sounds reasonable to me. Screw all you commie hippies who think everything should be commercial free. Everybody's gotta get paid for their time.

I couldn't care less about it as long as Cheapy and Wombat can retain independent thought and won't hesitate to rag on a game or a company even though said company may be sponsoring the CagCast. As soon as that happens I might as well listen to EGMLive again.

Take the money. Your time and effort is well worth it.

DarkNessBear
09-16-2007, 09:58 PM
CheapyD mentions CagForeplay alot, and that its an amazing show.

But, I dont want to be mean or anything, but does anyone else think that CagForeplay is really boring?

Teqonix
09-16-2007, 10:29 PM
Hey guys,

Really liked the show this week, and it was very refreshing to hear Wombat talking about Warhawk's gameplay and actual problems instead of talking about how the game isn't worth it due to price/size ratio.

Also, Wombat - About your new PSP Slim, you said in the show that you'd occasionally throw some music or podcasts on there. Well, one extremely underrated feature of the PSP is that it can actually download podcasts wirelessly by itself at any time you schedule. You just need to use the web browser to add RSS feeds to the thing, then schedule what and when you'd like your podcasts updated. (And it's very easy to find RSS feeds - just go to google and use something similar to this as a query: "podcast_name xml" With this, what you wanted is almost always the first link google brings back. I actually gave up using an iPod in favor of this feature, as podcasts were all I listened to, and the feature works incredibly well.

Cheapy, wanted to wish you and especially Mrs. Cheapy good luck with the upcoming birth - I'm sure more people would be happy to gift you with things if you could make a gift or 'baby' registry on Amazon. I'm not sure if it's possible with you living in Japan.. But it might be worth checking into. (Also, take Major Nelson up on his offer for another 360 - if you're taking him shopping for an amazing Japanese toilet, I'd consider this as the same type of friendly gesture. Edit: Uh, well I guess this isn't going to happen, afterall. Sucks to be the Major.)

Anyway, really looking forward to the next episode.

-Teq

apokalipze2
09-16-2007, 10:51 PM
CheapyD mentions CagForeplay alot, and that its an amazing show.

But, I dont want to be mean or anything, but does anyone else think that CagForeplay is really boring?I'm on the same boat. I tried cagforeplay but I wasn't digging at all that much.

GLOCKGLOCK
09-18-2007, 12:52 AM
Another great episode guys. I have officially integrated "there you go" into my daily routine.

Stuck in a boring meeting at work..."There you go...next topic"
Girlfriend complaining... "Well there you go..."
Cop pulls you over... "there you go!"

LOVE THE CAGcast!

Kromax
09-19-2007, 08:33 AM
I received my CAG bracelet in the mail yesterday, and I'm grateful. I will wear it proudly, and hopefully use the opportunity to evangelize anybody who asks me about it.

I will be actively looking at all wrists in NYC (where I work) and LI (where I live) for fellow CAGers. World domination can't be far off.

Thanks, Cheapy.

PS, Cheapy and Wombat have been with me at the beach, in the car, at the gym, on morning runs, at Disney World, at work, on the train, etc. Having been listening to the show since episode 1, I take pride in its success, and feel blessed for having shared the journey. My wife understands none of this (and she hasn't forgiven me for making her watch the blowfish video).

GAMERMASTERMAN
09-20-2007, 10:38 AM
I'm on the same boat. I tried cagforeplay but I wasn't digging at all that much.i listend the first 2 and thought they were boring and they sounded really nervous
but i started listening again a few episodes and i think their pretty good now
this last one did get kinda boring near the end i think, cuz it was so long, cag foreplay is best as a 30-40 min podcast

io
09-21-2007, 04:32 AM
Hey Cheapy, I was late listening this time as my main computer won't stay on for more than 5 minutes. 2 services trips later it is STILL doing that (aftter 2 system board replacements) and now I need to send it away...

Anyway, you probably aren't reading this at this point, but I just thought the "pain free" birth thing was funny. When we had our first kid (here in the US), my wife was trying to find a place where she could NOT get the epidural (or, more accurately, convince her doctor not to insist on it). I assume that's what you are talking about. I forget the specifics, but it isn't so much the "retardedness" that is the issue, but that the epidural keeps you stationary, and that can lead to further interventions including Caesarian births (which are WAY too high in this country as a result).

Anyway, my wife was determined to go the pain-FULL route. The problem was that she stalled during labor. If she was on an epidural this almost certainly would have led to a Caesarian section, but she was able to fight through it and ended up being induced. Now the women here may know about this, but the chemically-induced contractions are MORE painful than normal ones and she did it all without any painkillers except for a small analgesic towards the end. She proceeded to do the same thing with the next 2 kids (including the last one who was near 11 lbs).

We're now due for our 4th on Nov. 10th. I didn't realize you were late October, Cheapy. I had thought yours was much earlier than mine for some reason. We haven't really talked about it, so I'm not sure what she's planning this time. She's older now and may simply not want to put up with the pain this time, so we'll see.

And Wombat, if you call Cheapy old one more time, I'm gonna smack ya ;).

Punk_Raven
09-21-2007, 10:09 AM
Ay $$$$erz where dat new CAGcast at?

ch3zyp00fs
09-21-2007, 08:27 PM
that may be one of the largest and most disgusting blisters I've seen.

trunks982
09-22-2007, 11:03 AM
How many mins in, cheapy talks about his blister? cause i listened to the show and i missed that part. maybe because i wasnt paying attention.

DarkNessBear
09-23-2007, 04:05 AM
I just read an interview with the designer for Uncharted: Drake's Foturne. When asked about what she says when people call it 'Tomb Raider with a Guy' (looking at you Cheapy), her response was good:



She then goes on to say the obvious things one would expect like what she thinks is better about her game, blah, blah, blash.

But I like her point. We don't refer to Halo as 'Quake with a Spartan', so why Tomb Raider with a Guy?. :D


Because people like disarming PS3's good exclusives. Thats the only reason.

steverl22
09-24-2007, 03:19 AM
CheapyD mentions CagForeplay alot, and that its an amazing show.

But, I dont want to be mean or anything, but does anyone else think that CagForeplay is really boring?

I really can't get into a show where a wife nags at the husband, to me that's how I see CAGfore play. Would rather listen to 1up, digg or gamespot.

KongaKing
09-24-2007, 06:38 PM
Hey Cheapy, got my CAG bracelet today. Thanks a lot for doing that! And pass along my thanks to your mom. I see she had a little more work to do, since she added 17 cents more postage to the envelope.

Mex25
09-29-2007, 01:12 AM
CheapyD mentions CagForeplay alot, and that its an amazing show.

But, I dont want to be mean or anything, but does anyone else think that CagForeplay is really boring? Your not the only one. I tried listening to the latest cagforeplay and I literally deleted it after listening for about 10 seconds. Do we really need an hour and half podcast covering 5-6 game releases a week? I thought new releases were already covered in the cagcast.