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Zeeman
09-24-2007, 04:45 PM
So I own a PS2 and a Wii and I've played Guitar Hero before but I've never actually owned it. With Guitar Hero III on the horizon, I was thinking about picking it up but I don't know if I should get the Wii or PS2 Version.

At first i was thinking about getting the PS2 Version because I could also buy the previous versions and play the songs from them.

But then I thought, with Guitar Hero III, would I really go back and play II and I so much? In addition, I think it would be cooler to have it for the Wii and there is a possibility (albeit a slim chance) of having DLC. Online coop/competitive is pretty cool, but it's not a decision making factor like DLC is for me.

What are your opinions? Would you pick it up for the Wii or go for the PS2 and get the whole library.

jlseal
09-24-2007, 05:00 PM
How often will you have other people over to play it? I'd imagine that controllers are cheaper on the PS2 and having more songs is always a good thing. If not, the Wii's controller will be wireless, and that's awesome.

Rocko
09-24-2007, 05:00 PM
If the back library is so important to you, then I guess PS2 would be a good choice. But the PS2 won't have online, any chance of DLC, or a wireless guitar. I'd buy both, personally, to get the best of both worlds.

munch
09-24-2007, 05:28 PM
i suggest you get the PS2 version. Furthermore, I suggest you buy the mint condition PS2 version from me in my TL. Furtherfurthermore, I suggest that you buy both GH and GH2 from me for maximum savings. That is all.

dmaul1114
09-24-2007, 05:50 PM
I'd go PS2, as you'll want the extra songs if you really get into the game. And as others said you can find the controllers pretty cheap if you want to do 2 player (which is a blast).

I'm going PS2 because I already have the first 2 games and two controllers so I can just get the game only release. Plus it's a game/series I replay all the time, and I may well ditch the Wii after Mario Galaxy as the game library isn't interesting me much, so it just doesn't make sense to buy it for the Wii.

MisterHand
09-24-2007, 06:07 PM
I may well ditch the Wii after Mario Galaxy as the game library isn't interesting me much:lol: Are you contractually obligated to mention this in every thread?

Back on topic, I agree with all the advice posted here.

dmaul1114
09-24-2007, 06:29 PM
:lol: Are you contractually obligated to mention this in every thread?


Nah. I just make mental note of anything I post that annoys the regulars here. ;)

Foo228
09-24-2007, 07:41 PM
Hmm...sorta in the same dilema but I've already got 2 guitars (from the last two games) for PS2

im thinking go wii as the console is gunna have more support in the coming months

iowaholdem
09-24-2007, 07:45 PM
Why is everyone saying the PS2 won't have a wireless controller? I know my brother has GHII and three wireless guitars for it. Aren't those compatible with GHIII?

Personally, I'd say get the Wii version as online play - which has been confirmed in tact, hasn't it? - is a definite game seller. Also, I don't tend to hold on to old systems, so if I were you, I'd eventually ditch the PS2 (which I did a few years ago!) and keep the Wii library growing.

dmaul1114
09-24-2007, 07:58 PM
I actually don't see the appeal of online play for music games. Multiplayer is fun just because you're rocking out with a buddy right beside you over some beers. I just don't see it being anywhere near the same playing online as it's just not really a competitive game.

Now DLC is a selling point, but the Wii won't have that at launch anyway, and who knows if it ever will regarldess of what they're saying.

Whomeam145
09-24-2007, 08:07 PM
PS2 for sure. Guitar Hero 1 and 2 had some GREAT songs on it. Even Encore had Maiden, so that's worth a look.

botticus
09-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Nah. I just make mental note of anything I post that annoys the regulars here. ;)But... aren't you one of them? :-s

The Wii kinda makes more sense as it's probably a better investment if you're starting out fresh. I don't know how much longer the PS2 will continue getting Guitar Hero iterations, while it's more likely that - at the least - the Wii will get it longer.

Rocko
09-24-2007, 11:09 PM
Why is everyone saying the PS2 won't have a wireless controller? I know my brother has GHII and three wireless guitars for it. Aren't those compatible with GHIII?

If this guy is trying to decide between to two versions instead of simply buying a GHII bundle and a GHI disc as well as the GHIII bundle on the Wii, he definitely won't be shelling out the cash for an extra PS2 controller just to make it wireless.

dmaul1114
09-24-2007, 11:18 PM
But... aren't you one of them? :-s


Guess so. But I can't annoy myself. :D

To clarify I should have said the regular Nintendo fanboys.


The Wii kinda makes more sense as it's probably a better investment if you're starting out fresh. I don't know how much longer the PS2 will continue getting Guitar Hero iterations, while it's more likely that - at the least - the Wii will get it longer.

That would normally be a fair point, given the PS2 is a last gen system. But given it's ridiculous install base, and the fact that the PS3 is selling so poorly, I'd imagine at least GHIV would come out on the system. Hell, it just got the 80's game exclusive earlier this year.

But, personally I'd say the 360 is probably the best bet for starting fresh since you can get GHII and GHIII and at least some of the GHI songs through DLC. The same songs may come to the Wii DLC, but again who knows if or win with the Wii storage issues currently.

Especially with those with HDTVs since you'll avoid lag by having the game in 720p instead of 480p. Luckily a non issue as on my Sony LDC RPTV the lag comes out to 0MS in the calibration tests in GHII on the PS2 running at 480p.

dmaul1114
09-24-2007, 11:28 PM
If this guy is trying to decide between to two versions instead of simply buying a GHII bundle and a GHI disc as well as the GHIII bundle on the Wii, he definitely won't be shelling out the cash for an extra PS2 controller just to make it wireless.


Well, he could buy the GHIII game only version on the PS2 for $40-50, and find a wireless controller for $40-50 and come out about the same as the Wii version and also have the ability to later by the first two games used for pretty cheap.

botticus
09-24-2007, 11:39 PM
That would normally be a fair point, given the PS2 is a last gen system. But given it's ridiculous install base, and the fact that the PS3 is selling so poorly, I'd imagine at least GHIV would come out on the system. Hell, it just got the 80's game exclusive earlier this year.
I don't doubt it will get GHIV, but beyond that it becomes much less certain. And though I'm not up with the whole accessory compatibility issue between GH and Rock Band, Rock Band is likely coming to Wii, not so likely PS2, if that were a future consideration.

richbastard
09-24-2007, 11:41 PM
Guitar Hero wouldnt be here now if it was for Sony and the PS2.
best on PS2 as usuall.

dmaul1114
09-25-2007, 12:04 AM
I don't doubt it will get GHIV, but beyond that it becomes much less certain. And though I'm not up with the whole accessory compatibility issue between GH and Rock Band, Rock Band is likely coming to Wii, not so likely PS2, if that were a future consideration.

Rock band has more buttons lower on the guitar neck for solos, so it has to be played with it's controller as the GH controllers don't have those buttons.

So that's a moot point as you'd have to buy the bundle of Rock Band for whichever console you buy it on.

I'm not sure they'll put it on the Wii if Nintendo doesn't come out with larger storage for playable files--be it allowing the SD card to be used in game, or putting out a USB hard drive, as they are really pushing the DLC with that game what with the full album downloads etc.

dmaul1114
09-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Guitar Hero wouldnt be here now if it was for Sony and the PS2.
best on PS2 as usuall.

That's just stupid. While I'm getting it on the PS2, I'd never buy a game on a console just because it started on that console and became successful on that console.

Zeeman
09-25-2007, 02:58 AM
Thanks everyone for the replies!

Well, if I got it for the Wii, I wouldn't buy the the first two versions for the PS2 since hopefully (very hopeful) some songs would come out for DLC. I think it would really be nice to own all of the games on one system though. If I got if for PS2, I would buy a Guitar Hero II bundles and the I disc and then get the III bundle when it comes out too.

Rocko
09-25-2007, 03:36 PM
...So why not just buy a GHII bundle and I disc on PS2, and the GHIII bundle on Wii? It'll likely be more expensive to DL all the songs on to the Wii than it is to buy the disc, if they ever release all the songs (or any) via DLC.

dmaul1114
09-25-2007, 03:47 PM
...So why not just buy a GHII bundle and I disc on PS2, and the GHIII bundle on Wii? It'll likely be more expensive to DL all the songs on to the Wii than it is to buy the disc, if they ever release all the songs (or any) via DLC.

Then you have 2 controllers, but on different systems, so no multiplayer.

If he goes PS2 for the first 2, might as well just get the third there as well to have them all on one system and be all set for 2 player action. The Wii will have online play, but again I just don't see how playing online would be any fun as the point is to goof off with friends making asses out of yourselves.

One caution though, is that GHI on the PS2 doesn't have an HDTV calibration option to adjust for lag, so it's pretty much unplayable on some HDTVs. Also only 480i, so the lag is worse. GHII and the 80's encore have it though.

soonersfan60
09-26-2007, 12:25 PM
What is the final word on DLC for Wii version? I definitely want to play off of SD cards, though, and save internal memory for VC games.

dmaul1114
09-26-2007, 02:54 PM
What is the final word on DLC for Wii version? I definitely want to play off of SD cards, though, and save internal memory for VC games.

Not available at launch, but developers said they will work with Nintendo to get it out at some point. No word on how it would work, be it allowing the SD cards to be used, putting out a USB harddrive etc.

Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath on it, Nintendo probably won't go out of their way to help a third party get DLC out given how lackadaisical they are about online function in general.

It's just wait and see on that. If DLC is important to you, and you have a PS3 or 360, buy the game there as you'll have DLC right from launch.

soonersfan60
09-26-2007, 10:08 PM
Well, my immediate options are PS2 or Wii, but I really want to use the wireless Wii-mote functionality. DLC is only important because I want a few of the GHI songs. Maybe I'll end up with both, if I can find a good deal on a used PS2 one after the newer ones come out.

worshipsf
09-28-2007, 01:30 AM
Used PS2 guitars (wired) are $20 at Gamestop if you can find one that has it in stock. Check the whammy bar before you buy though; you want it to be tight.

I don't understand that big fuss being made about wireless - the GH3 PS2 guitar IS wireless, and there's also a separate wireless guitar.

What the Wiimote adds is rumble, and squeeky sounds coming from the guitar itself when you mess up. Maybe fun features, but I doubt you'd miss them.

The main things to consider IMO are online features, and guitar compatibility (previous guitars -> GH3 and GH3 guitar -> previous games) which is a question mark right now AFAIK.

007
09-28-2007, 01:51 AM
For me, it comes down to the fact that I already have two guitars for the PS2. Sure, I love the Wii and all, but it's about what saves me money.

Plus, this game is EXACTLY what I hate about this 'online' generation... 'oh, get THIS version, because they'll be downloadable content!'.

So, yeah, I'm getting the PS2 version, since Guitar Hero 3 better be worth the money STRAIGHT FROM RETAIL. If not, well, then that's just indicative of a larger problem, isn't it?

usickenme
09-28-2007, 01:58 AM
Personally, I am in the same boat and ,dorks who like the "mess with Nintendo fanboys" be damned, I am getting the Wii version.

I really like the rumble and use of the Wiimote speakers.
Potential DLC and online play.
Better lifecycle. ( I would guess GH3 is the last GH on the PS2)
I like the Guitar better

and with the P2 being so popular it is pretty easy to find a buddy who has the PS2 version of the old games

007
09-28-2007, 02:25 AM
In a healthy state of disagreement, I'll retort with:

1. Rumble and the Wii-mote are nifty, I admit. Not nifty enough to re-spend the money.

2. DLC is overrated unless they're going to do it right, which remains to be seen. Also, am I the only person who honestly doesn't understand why anyone would want to play this online? I just don't get it.

3. Lifecycle... though the PS2 will have 4 GH games under it's belt when GH3 comes out, so the future is bleak, but the past is grand. Also, after GH3 comes out, it'll be AT LEAST another year before GH4.

4. As long as it has buttons and a strummer bar, I'm good.

Like I said, just some friendly retorts. I freely admit that if you don't already have PS2 guitars, it's Wii all the way. However, I've yet to see anything that is greatly compelling me to upgrade. Admittedly, the extremely screwed-up DLC for GH2 on the 360 didn't help.

FriskyTanuki
09-28-2007, 05:05 AM
If the back library is so important to you, then I guess PS2 would be a good choice. But the PS2 won't have online, any chance of DLC, or a wireless guitar. I'd buy both, personally, to get the best of both worlds.
You've turned this into a thread of lies, Rocko. The Kramer Guitar that's included in the PS2 bundle is wireless.

http://www.redoctane.com/guitarhero3ps2bundle.html

Nohbdy
09-28-2007, 11:51 AM
The Wii version is superior, feature-wise. There is no mention of either platform having its own exclusive songs. The Wii version will have extra features not available on any other platform.

DLC may or may not come for GH3. Maybe around GH4 though, but who'll care about that when Rock B--err, GuitarFreaks/DrumMania will come out?

dmaul1114
09-28-2007, 02:48 PM
2. DLC is overrated unless they're going to do it right, which remains to be seen. Also, am I the only person who honestly doesn't understand why anyone would want to play this online? I just don't get it.


Not the only one, I've said that a few times in this and other threads. I see zero appeal for online. Honestly, it's most fun in single player, trying to get 5*'s. Multiplayer is fun, but only with friends in the same room, drinking and laughing at each other for rocking out like retards.


3. Lifecycle... though the PS2 will have 4 GH games under it's belt when GH3 comes out, so the future is bleak, but the past is grand. Also, after GH3 comes out, it'll be AT LEAST another year before GH4.


Exactly. 4 games to play right away. And I'd bet that GH4 next year will hit the PS2 as well, because PS2 games are still selling well, and will likely continue until then unless the PS2 magically hits $300 in the next 6 months and starts selling really well.
4. As long as it has buttons and a strummer bar, I'm good.


Like I said, just some friendly retorts. I freely admit that if you don't already have PS2 guitars, it's Wii all the way. However, I've yet to see anything that is greatly compelling me to upgrade. Admittedly, the extremely screwed-up DLC for GH2 on the 360 didn't help.

I'd offer the same, though I'd add "and you don't want GHI, GHII or the 80's pack " to the qualifying part of the statement.

techstar25
09-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Go for the PS2 version. Here's why.
You get a wireless guitar that can be used with:
GH
GH II
GH '80's
There are a lot of GREAT, semi-exclusive songs on all three previous games, which can be picked up used for cheap.

Also you can get used wired guitars for as little as $20 at EB/GS, then grab a cable extender for $5. That's what I have for my two wired guitars.

Sure, the Wii might have a few exclusive songs, but not the 100 or so that you could get with those three games I mentioned above.

I'm also considering getting a Wii but the timing isn't right yet (I'm waiting for Mario Galaxy). In the meantime I think I'll grab GH III for the PS2.

usickenme
09-28-2007, 04:49 PM
In a healthy state of disagreement, I'll retort with:

1. Rumble and the Wii-mote are nifty, I admit. Not nifty enough to re-spend the money.

2. DLC is overrated unless they're going to do it right, which remains to be seen. Also, am I the only person who honestly doesn't understand why anyone would want to play this online? I just don't get it.

3. Lifecycle... though the PS2 will have 4 GH games under it's belt when GH3 comes out, so the future is bleak, but the past is grand. Also, after GH3 comes out, it'll be AT LEAST another year before GH4.

4. As long as it has buttons and a strummer bar, I'm good.

Like I said, just some friendly retorts. I freely admit that if you don't already have PS2 guitars, it's Wii all the way. However, I've yet to see anything that is greatly compelling me to upgrade. Admittedly, the extremely screwed-up DLC for GH2 on the 360 didn't help.

So your retort is based on already owning the PS2 games? That's a different thread buddy.

Besides who know what will be released. If the Wii doesn't have DLC then I could see them releasing music packs of the older games.

dmaul1114
09-28-2007, 04:59 PM
Besides who know what will be released. If the Wii doesn't have DLC then I could see them releasing music packs of the older games.

Vs. knowing you can get them all right from launch, and for cheap. It's a trade off. Some more features, vs having more songs that you can get on the cheap right away.

I wouldn't count on music packs though. The 360 hasn't gotten any of the 80s songs, and not all that many of the GHI songs through DLC yet. They seem set on trying to sell them for more than people are willing to pay (i.e. MUCH more than you could buy the whole games for on the PS2 on a price per song comparison) so they may never come out if they don't budge.

usickenme
09-28-2007, 06:30 PM
That's certainly the case. However, "cheap" is relative. The Original GH is still selling at reg. price ($39) at retailers and only slightly discounted elsewhere. Even used copies are still pricey. IF GH 1 or 2 was $10 everywhere, that would be one thing. They are not and you are going to be spending some cash to get the whole collection (+ a PS2 setup if you don't have one)

But this is a Wii forum. Let's show the Wii some support. For a new GH3 buyer like myself. The Wii is the only way to go.

dmaul1114
09-28-2007, 08:49 PM
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with going Wii for sure.

I just like having as many songs as possible, as I never had the patience for hard or expert, and it doesnt' take all that long to get through medium and 5* the songs I like well enough to play over and over.

So to that degree I just like to put the PS2 option out there since there's so many songs available from the get go. Especially since the OP has a PS2 and was asking which way to go. As for used price, check eBay and Craig's list, some pretty cheap copies on their most of the time.

As for supporting the Wii, I have no loyalty to it (or any console period), and don't really want to support multiplatform games for it. Don't want it to be like last gen were they sell the best on the weakest console (PS2) and thus the X-box ports looked pretty crappy relative to X-box exclusives. Could be even worse this gen as the PS2 was a lot closer in power to the X-box than the Wii is to the 360 or PS3.

usickenme
09-29-2007, 02:03 AM
As a Wii only owner. I would like to see as many games as possible for the system thus my support. (any loyalty is selfish on my part).

What I don't have loyalty to is a stance that requires me to buy 2-3 systems every gen for "multi-platform" games especially when said game could easily be done on each system.

dmaul1114
09-29-2007, 01:57 PM
As a Wii only owner. I would like to see as many games as possible for the system thus my support. (any loyalty is selfish on my part).


I can respect that.

I only have a Wii at the moment, but I will be buying a 360 as soon as it hit's $300 or someone is giving away a game I actually want (not the Forza 2/Marvel bundle).

Just got an HDTV in June, dying to play some HD games on it. So I'm holding off on any multiplatform games until then. Gameplay is king, but these will all play the same or better (waggle in Madden is a joke for instance) and look better on the 360, so it's a win win to wait and buy it on there.

I've always had at least two consoles every generation since the SNES/Genesis, so I don't mind buying more than one. Just sucks more now since the 360 and PS3 jacked prices up so high.

PleasantOne
09-29-2007, 07:40 PM
Rock band has more buttons lower on the guitar neck for solos, so it has to be played with it's controller as the GH controllers don't have those buttons.

The Rock Band people have said that other guitars will be compatible, you just won't be able to play the special solo parts. AFAIK, that's still the case.

I think if I were you, OP, I would say go with Wii for future support... I guess it depends on how much you want songs from the previous releases. I plan to go with the PS3 release myself, cause I really want to be able to play the older songs. Perhaps you should just wait and see if anything is said about DLC on the Wii?

Smokeytb
09-29-2007, 11:39 PM
There is one point that no one has mentioned. With the wii controller you would be able to connect it to your computer (given that you have bluetooth.)

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=213

Well, you can also do this with a PS2 controller with a USB converter, which are harder to find.

With PC bluetooth connectivity you can play Frets on Fire an open source PC game very similar to guitar hero where you can use your own songs in game.

http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/

This is something that I will be looking forward to doing.

Zeeman
10-04-2007, 04:58 PM
Wow, thanks everyone for weighing in on this.

Originally I had intended on getting it for the Wii, but there are some songs that I like from Guitar Hero II that I would like to pay. However, I'm not sure if it would be feasible to buy the whole ps2 disc for a couple of songs. In addition, with Guitar Hero III having a great song list, would I even play these songs?

I think a new weighing factor is that Rock Band is going to be released for PS2 as well. IF there was a Wii Version, then it would be Wii all the way (and why this isn't happening is beyond me). But with the ability to play with four people at the same time, it's very tempting to keep all the music games on the PS2.

For the controllers, that's cool that they can connect to the computer. I played Frets on Fire before (with my keyboard), but I think I'll just stick to the consoles.

dmaul1114
10-04-2007, 05:28 PM
In addition, with Guitar Hero III having a great song list, would I even play these songs?


In my experience, if you get into the game at all, the answer is yes. GHII had a great list, but I still bought GHI a couple weeks after getting GHII for x-mas to have more songs to play.

And I didn't get sucked in nearly as much as many (i.e. never made much effort at building my skill up to the Hard or Expert levels).

So it is something to weigh in your decision.

Zeeman
10-04-2007, 05:33 PM
Hmm, looking at the Deals forum, I see that TRU is having a B2G1 free which can include things like Guitar Hero. Maybe I'll pick up Guitar Hero II w/guitar and some Wii games and then buy Guitar Hero III w/guitar when it comes out since it doesn't work for preorders.

daroga
10-04-2007, 06:50 PM
You're in for a treat. Guitar Hero is a ton of fun.

I think I'll end up getting 3 on the 360 just because I have 2 on there already and would like to play some multiplayer at some point.

I've never pushed myself to really do well in the game. I've come close to 5-starring medium, but that's it. There's plenty in hard I can't clear, but oh well. ;)

dmaul1114
10-09-2007, 01:32 PM
For any deciding to go the PS2 route, the PS2 Guitar Hero 2 bundle is on sale for $59.99 ($20 off) at Toys R Us this week.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154529

TFLNetwork
10-09-2007, 04:40 PM
Guitar hero on Ps2 is great. Can't wait for it on the wii :)

1SwtDeception
10-09-2007, 07:36 PM
I think I confused myself. So what is it about the PS2 GHIII and the Wii GHIII that makes it different?

They both have
online play? (or only does the Wii does? I thought PS2 has that capability to play online with others from what I get on the Red Octane site).

downloadables? (From the topic it seems like PS2 downloadables are just the previous versions of the game? The same goes with the Wii? Or can one of them be customized?)

wireless guitars? (I think it just says that on the Red Octane site..)

And are there any other differences?

darthbudge
10-09-2007, 07:39 PM
There is gonna be a PC version of GH 3 FYI.

dmaul1114
10-10-2007, 01:44 AM
I think I confused myself. So what is it about the PS2 GHIII and the Wii GHIII that makes it different?

They both have
online play? (or only does the Wii does? I thought PS2 has that capability to play online with others from what I get on the Red Octane site).

downloadables? (From the topic it seems like PS2 downloadables are just the previous versions of the game? The same goes with the Wii? Or can one of them be customized?)

wireless guitars? (I think it just says that on the Red Octane site..)

And are there any other differences?


Really not much difference.

Wii has some Wiimote suppot. But I'm not sure that will add anything. They likely will just use it's sensors (it snaps into the guitar) for the star power tilting rather than putting sensors into the guitar. And it MAY have DLC down the line, while the PS2 version will not. Both come with wireless guitars.

PS2 you can buy GH1 and GH2 to get a bunch more songs that may or may not be available to buy at inflated prices (see the 360 GH2) if the Wii ever gets DLC.

1SwtDeception
10-10-2007, 02:31 AM
Really not much difference.

Wii has some Wiimote suppot. But I'm not sure that will add anything. They likely will just use it's sensors (it snaps into the guitar) for the star power tilting rather than putting sensors into the guitar. And it MAY have DLC down the line, while the PS2 version will not. Both come with wireless guitars.

PS2 you can buy GH1 and GH2 to get a bunch more songs that may or may not be available to buy at inflated prices (see the 360 GH2) if the Wii ever gets DLC.

Oh mmm.. maybe I should preorder the Wii version then.. and damn my grammar is crap.

Thanks for answering my question.

Zeeman
10-12-2007, 03:57 PM
I think I confused myself. So what is it about the PS2 GHIII and the Wii GHIII that makes it different?

They both have
online play? (or only does the Wii does? I thought PS2 has that capability to play online with others from what I get on the Red Octane site).

downloadables? (From the topic it seems like PS2 downloadables are just the previous versions of the game? The same goes with the Wii? Or can one of them be customized?)

wireless guitars? (I think it just says that on the Red Octane site..)

And are there any other differences?

Only the Nintendo Wii Version has online, the PS2 Version will not have online capability.

According to an interview video on Gametrailers, the Nintendo Wii version WILL NOT have DLC :(. The PS2 Version does not have online, but owning a ps2 gives you access to the previous games.

Both versions will have wireless guitars, but the Wii version uses the Wiimote for rumble and external sound effects.

Arrrgh, I'm so wishy washy on this subject. I was going to go PS2, then Wii, then I found out Guitar Hero II is on sale at Toys R Us so back to PS2 again but now it's sold out... so I guess I'm going back to Wii?

DrMoze
10-14-2007, 11:37 PM
Especially with those with HDTVs since you'll avoid lag by having the game in 720p instead of 480p. Luckily a non issue as on my Sony LDC RPTV the lag comes out to 0MS in the calibration tests in GHII on the PS2 running at 480p.

480p gives you a lag and 720 doesn't? wtf?

btw, instead of just getting more songs, why *not* practice and get really good at the ones you have on hard and expert, instead of bagging out at medium? :roll:

dmaul1114
10-14-2007, 11:58 PM
480p gives you a lag and 720 doesn't? wtf?

btw, instead of just getting more songs, why *not* practice and get really good at the ones you have on hard and expert, instead of bagging out at medium? :roll:


On my TV I don't get lag at 480p nor 720p, but yes, most 720p TVs do get lag with 480p material. A 720p TV displays everything in 720p (technically 768p) and lags in introduced from upscaling the 480p to 720p. For whatever reason, my SONY LCD RPTV doesn't come up with any lag in 480p according to the GHII lag test. I do get some lag if its not set to progressive scan though (480i).

As for the other, you play the game how you like, and I'll play it how I like. I'm still working on 5 starring medium occasionally. When/if I get that done I'll give hard a more serious try. But I've never been one to 100% any games, usually just see the credits roll and move on to the next.

As such, I'm just not that into practicing the game. Plus it inspired me to learn real guitar (taking a class now) so that's taking up my daily "practice" time.

DrMoze
10-15-2007, 06:19 PM
As such, I'm just not that into practicing the game. Plus it inspired me to learn real guitar (taking a class now) so that's taking up my daily "practice" time.

Well, that rocks, no argument there! :hot: :) I'm just starting to learn bass, but ordered GHIII for the Wii, which may help with some finger strengthening f nothing else.

BTW, for those interested, the RedOctane pre-order deal for GHIII is up again. (Free shipping, plus bonus strap, keychain and guitar bag--$90 shipped for the Wii.)

jlseal
10-15-2007, 06:23 PM
EDIT: NM, I can't read.

Zeeman
10-16-2007, 02:05 AM
Ok, so I think I'm going to go with the Wii Version. But a few things. I'm torn from preordering online with Red Octane or with Gamestop. Red Octane, I know I'd get the extra free stuff, but then there is a chance that it would not come on street date and because I live in an apartment, I might have to wait even longer since they may not leave it in the lobby if I'm not in class or something. On the other hand, Gamestop = no extra goodies, but instant gratification.

Also, does anyone know if they will be selling the Wii Shell separately? And if so, how much? The guy at Gamestop said there was no data in the computer yet... he suggested I buy two bundles and sell back one of the games... nice try jerk.

But if there is no clue on the extra guitar, maybe I should go PS2 seeing that extra guitars are out there on the market already?

Zen Davis
10-20-2007, 11:05 PM
9.0 From Nintendo Power.

botticus
10-21-2007, 10:13 PM
Also, does anyone know if they will be selling the Wii Shell separately? And if so, how much? The guy at Gamestop said there was no data in the computer yet... he suggested I buy two bundles and sell back one of the games... nice try jerk.

But if there is no clue on the extra guitar, maybe I should go PS2 seeing that extra guitars are out there on the market already?Guess I was smart reading this thread first. I was going to ask a similar question. People have apparently been submitting tips to GoNintendo that a standalone guitar for the Wii is available on some online retailer sites (which would therefore imply that it should be available in B&M stores when the game is released). But can anyone point me to one of these online sites? None of the major store sites have a listing.

Zeeman
10-23-2007, 04:42 PM
The only one that I know of is ToysRus.com:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2792427

However, it's interesting because they dated the ship date as 10/28 but recently they changed it to 11/01.

dmaul1114
10-27-2007, 12:21 PM
Some more food for though for anyone still on the fence....Target has an exclusive bundle of the PS2 version that comes with two guitars for $89.99 (same price as the Wii bundle with 1 guitar).

That combined with ability to buy game only discs of GHI, GHII and The 80s is worth pondering when deciding which way to go.

cdeener
10-27-2007, 12:29 PM
Some more food for though for anyone still on the fence....Target has an exclusive bundle of the PS2 version that comes with two guitars for $89.99 (same price as the Wii bundle with 1 guitar).

That combined with ability to buy game only discs of GHI, GHII and The 80s is worth pondering when deciding which way to go.

The deal at Target though is for two wired controllers but the Wii version just like the PS3 and Xbox 360 comes with a wireless controller. To get a wireless controller on PS2 it would cost you an extra 60 bucks outside of the cost of the game.

Remember though that they are coming out with GHI & GHII Dual Pack on the PS2 if you haven't played them already for $59.99 later on in the week.

If you don't care about wireless controllers you might as well get the PS2 version because graphics wise they will be about the same plus you can go back and play all of the Guitar Heroes on it, too.

MorPhiend
10-28-2007, 12:29 AM
I have a similar dilemma. Instead of making a nearly identical thread, I thought I would post in here. I have recently bought a Wii and PS3. But I have GHII for the 360 (2 copies) because my old roommate had a 360 and I really wanted to play GH. So now I have these two copies of GHII collecting dust, which is fine since I will likely get a 360 someday. But I think Wii and PS3 will be my main machines even then. So my problem is I really wanted the Wii version of Guitar Hero III. But I also want Rock Band. Would it be better to buy it for PS3 so I would have two PS3 guitars? I heard there may be compatibility issues between the PS3 guitars though. What are the plusses and minuses of the Wii and PS3 versions? I really want to get it this weekend if possible (since I haven't been able to find DDR:HP at TRU yet and I need to get my games exchanged soon).

Not really interested in being wired down by the PS2 controllers plugged into my PS3 either, BTW.

dmaul1114
10-28-2007, 12:58 AM
The PS2 GH controllers don't work on the PS3 anyway.

UncleBob
10-28-2007, 03:50 AM
If we don't get DLC on the Wii version and the game sells well enough, I imagine we'll see some kind of "Guitar Hero Classics" disc come out with some of the best of GH1, 2 and 80's. I mean, it'd basically be free money for Activision.

jlseal
10-28-2007, 09:48 AM
If we don't get DLC on the Wii version and the game sells well enough, I imagine we'll see some kind of "Guitar Hero Classics" disc come out with some of the best of GH1, 2 and 80's. I mean, it'd basically be free money for Activision.
Yeah, and if they weren't stupid expensive, I'd buy 'em. Hell, even if they are stupid expensive, I'm sure they'd sell.

munch
10-28-2007, 10:12 AM
So has anyone grabbed this yet? How's the controller? I'm going to get it this afternoon and want to hear some impressions.

darthbudge
10-28-2007, 10:14 AM
Is there any DLC planned for the Wii?

dmaul1114
10-28-2007, 12:02 PM
Is there any DLC planned for the Wii?

Developers have said little about it. Basically just that it's not available at launch, but may be down the road.

But it's unlikely if there isn't a Wii harddrive, or at least a firmware update to allow games to use the SD card slot directly.

UncleBob
10-28-2007, 12:06 PM
The controller is nice. It really has some heft to it, unlike the previous cheap-o plastic ones that weighed about two ounces.

jlseal
10-28-2007, 12:12 PM
The controller is nice. It really has some heft to it, unlike the previous cheap-o plastic ones that weighed about two ounces.
Sweet, now do I feel like driving to Circuit City and getting the free stand then taking back my RedOctane pre-order...

MorPhiend
10-28-2007, 12:33 PM
So does anyone have any reasons I should get the PS3 version over the Wii. If I knew the guitars worked with Rock Band I would, but I don't think they do.

UncleBob
10-28-2007, 12:45 PM
This is in the Wii version's manual, I assume it's in the others as well.

"ACTIVISION AUTHORIZES USE OF THIS GUITAR HERO CONTROLLER ONLY WITH A GUITAR HERO GAME PRODUCT OR OTHER ACTIVISION BRANDED PRODUCT. ACTIVISION EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS THE USE OF THIS GUITAR HERO CONTROLLER WITH ANY OTHER GAME."

If there's any way for them to stop you from using the guitar with RockBand, I think they will. ;)

MorPhiend
10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
This is in the Wii version's manual, I assume it's in the others as well.

"ACTIVISION AUTHORIZES USE OF THIS GUITAR HERO CONTROLLER ONLY WITH A GUITAR HERO GAME PRODUCT OR OTHER ACTIVISION BRANDED PRODUCT. ACTIVISION EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS THE USE OF THIS GUITAR HERO CONTROLLER WITH ANY OTHER GAME."

If there's any way for them to stop you from using the guitar with RockBand, I think they will. ;)My roommate used one of my guitars for the 360 to play Aegis Wing (because he is retarded or something). I don't think he got arrested. So I think you're good to go on this one.

:P



EDIT:
I was at TRU last night and it was just before closing so I tried to get the guy in the RZone to sell me GHIII for Wii early. No dice. That's fine. I ask if they will be available in the morning. He says they will be.

So I go to TRU at open this morning. There are no Wii versions on the shelf. The same guy is working. I ask where the Wii copies are. He says, "We only are selling the Wii version to people with reserve tickets." Then he had the audacity to try and sellme on the 360 version, saying how much better it is anyway. I tell him I don't have a 360 and tell him the pluses of the Wii version over the others. He just gets this angry look on his face and walks away. I can't believe he told me last night I would be able to get it and then I wasn't, then he tried to sell me something I didn't want nor did I even have the means to play it. I wanted to go Manhunt 2 on the guy and take pliers to his nads. So I just kicked over the magazine rack and threw glitter at him as I ran out the door. Which reminds me, I need to pick up more glitter...

munch
10-28-2007, 05:38 PM
I just got it. There was nothing cooler than when you had to play Kiss as an encore. The graphics are way bad, but that's not like that matters. I've been missing a lot of notes that I swear I"m hitting. I hope it's me and not the game.

dmaul1114
10-28-2007, 06:13 PM
I've been missing a lot of notes that I swear I"m hitting. I hope it's me and not the game.


Are you playing on an HDTV? And if so are you playing in 480p and using the lag calibration adjustment in the game? If not that would cause problems.

botticus
10-28-2007, 06:50 PM
Just picked mine up this afternoon. I'll try out the game before the night is over.

eugaet
10-28-2007, 07:04 PM
Picked up the Wii version this morning just after 12:01am. We're having a great time...and yeah, the controller is much better made than previous verisons.

eraser813
10-28-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm really enjoying this version of the game. As mentioned previously, the guitar feels very nice, good weight to it. Interestingly, when I inserted the disc in the Wii, I couldn't launch the game! There was no GH3 icon in the game channel. It just said "Wii". I had to turn on the 2nd wiimote to get the pointer on the screen and then I had to do a system update. After that... perfection!

botticus
10-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Very much enjoying it so far, first time I've ever touched the game. At least I don't suck terribly, as the first song on easy I was able to get 84%. Wrapped up the first set getting in the mid-90s.

I do like the bad note sound from the Wiimote, and the vibration is evident, but not intrusive. And once I figured out that the analog stick should be used while holding the guitar in playing form, it was a little easier to navigate the Wii menu.

munch
10-28-2007, 09:51 PM
Well, I figured out my problem with the game. As I noted earlier I was getting a bunch of bum notes. Like, a lot. I'd get a long note and it would stop playing right after I hit it.

Turns out the problem is that the strum bar is way looser than the one for the PS2. I was strumming down and it was registering as two hits. I have to change my style to hit the notes. I think I'm going to contact Red Octane. It really messes me up.

TheYellowDart
10-29-2007, 01:17 AM
I have a problem.

I bought the Wii version, opened it in my car and threw the box out at Circuit City. I get home and play for several hours. Its awesome etc etc.

My mom comes home and tells me she just bought it for me for Christmas for PS2 with two wired controllers (honestly it doesn't matter to me wired or not).

Do I trade in my Wii guitar hero and wait until christmas (my friends have GH3 so it wouldn't be too bad) or do i ask my mom to return it for an extra guitar/ wiimote, again for christmas?

Nohbdy
10-29-2007, 03:04 AM
Wii version is already superior. Return it.

MorPhiend
10-29-2007, 03:06 AM
I'm really enjoying this version of the game. As mentioned previously, the guitar feels very nice, good weight to it. Interestingly, when I inserted the disc in the Wii, I couldn't launch the game! There was no GH3 icon in the game channel. It just said "Wii". I had to turn on the 2nd wiimote to get the pointer on the screen and then I had to do a system update. After that... perfection!Yeah. I had to do a system update before I could load up MP3 last week. And I got a Wii after MP3 came out.

Zen Davis
10-29-2007, 03:32 AM
I hate this game. It's like a fake custom hackjob version of Guitar Hero. The character models are worse than the ones in Guitar Hero 1.

eraser813
10-29-2007, 04:34 AM
Has anyone played online with the Wii version? Are friends codes in effect?

munch
10-29-2007, 08:08 AM
I hate this game. It's like a fake custom hackjob version of Guitar Hero. The character models are worse than the ones in Guitar Hero 1.

I know. I mean, graphics in a game like this don't mean anything; buy my god did you see the drummer? It's horrible. It becomes distracting.

botticus
10-29-2007, 08:51 AM
Has anyone played online with the Wii version? Are friends codes in effect?Of course they are, we love them. I haven't played online yet, just linked my account up to the community page.

I know. I mean, graphics in a game like this don't mean anything; buy my god did you see the drummer? It's horrible. It becomes distracting.I don't even understand how someone can look at the graphics to comment on them, outside of the ten seconds before and after a song.

Anyone else have their vision affected by the scrolling notes? It's kind of amusing. Every time I sit down at my computer after a song, the text kinda dances in front of my eyes for a few seconds.

munch
10-29-2007, 09:01 AM
Of course they are, we love them. I haven't played online yet, just linked my account up to the community page.

I don't even understand how someone can look at the graphics to comment on them, outside of the ten seconds before and after a song.

Anyone else have their vision affected by the scrolling notes? It's kind of amusing. Every time I sit down at my computer after a song, the text kinda dances in front of my eyes for a few seconds.

I'm playing on Medium right now and it's really easy, so I can see all of it. If you haven't taken the time to look at the graphics you should. They're disgusting. I wonder what they're like for the other consoles. I don't remember the old PS2 versions being this bad.

botticus
10-29-2007, 09:05 AM
I'm playing on Medium right now and it's really easy, so I can see all of it. If you haven't taken the time to look at the graphics you should. They're disgusting. I wonder what they're like for the other consoles. I don't remember the old PS2 versions being this bad.I want to laugh, but then you might tell me you're serious. :-(

:lol:

Is there a CAG tour group set up anywhere? Seems like there should be if there isn't one.

munch
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
I want to laugh, but then you might tell me you're serious. :-(

:lol:

Is there a CAG tour group set up anywhere? Seems like there should be if there isn't one.

I'm dead serious. Medium is easy and the game is butt ugly.

Zen Davis
10-29-2007, 12:40 PM
The controls aren't as tight as Guitar Hero 1 and 2. The graphics are worse artistically than Guitar Hero 1. The animations are horrible. The lighting is crap. I'm pseudo-happy with the track list but Harmonix is definitely missed. This is Guitar Hero in name only as far as I'm concerned.

I don't even understand how someone can look at the graphics to comment on them, outside of the ten seconds before and after a song.

Anyone else have their vision affected by the scrolling notes? It's kind of amusing. Every time I sit down at my computer after a song, the text kinda dances in front of my eyes for a few seconds.

I'm not great but when you get decent enough you can keep start to keep track of the notes and what's happening on the screen. The front man looks like the biggest douchebag in the world. The drummer only has arm animations that go up and down in one straight motion. If this were a band I was in, I would quit.

Also the chart notes are terrible. If you guys have a 360 I would tell you to skip and wait for Rock Band.

Dezuria
10-29-2007, 01:04 PM
The graphics were probably done with the PS3 and 360 in mind, and then reduced to work on "lesser" consoles.

Just a guess of course.

dmaul1114
10-29-2007, 01:45 PM
If you guys have a 360 I would tell you to skip and wait for Rock Band.

Is the 360 version as bad in these regards? Is is it just that the Wii port was half assed? What about the PS2 version?

Any one played those versions and can offer their input? Seems like there's less complaints in the 360 thread.

I'd been debating whether to just get it for the PS2, or to sell the PS2 and pick up the 360 version and/or wait for Rock Band.

botticus
10-29-2007, 01:47 PM
I guess I should be happy this is my first GH then, I think it's pretty sweet.

Only complaints I've heard re: the 360 version is the guitar. But then until the last few posts I hadn't heard any complaints about the Wii graphics either, other than not being 360/PS3 graphics. GAF seems a happier bunch about the games in general.

From the thousand-post GAF thread, it's generally:
360: broken guitars
PS3: lag/no friend matching for online
Wii: the usual?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202363

TheYellowDart
10-29-2007, 01:52 PM
My friend code-287877506119

botticus
10-29-2007, 01:54 PM
My friend code-287877506119Where do they have the friend code? I'll have to dig mine up tonight.

dmaul1114
10-29-2007, 01:57 PM
I guess I should be happy this is my first GH then, I think it's pretty sweet.


Yeah, I'm just interested to hear more about how it compares to the first two, rather than the platform specific stuff as I had concerns about it being as good with the new developer.

Oh well, I should skip GH/Rock Band until 2008 anyway as I have a big backlog and more pressing stuff like Mario and Mass Effect coming soon anyway.

botticus
10-29-2007, 01:58 PM
As an obvious non-GH veteran, all I could say is to browse through that thread. Apparently they increased the window for hammer-ons and the like, but expert songs are harder than they were in GH2.

munch
10-29-2007, 02:08 PM
I know my guitar is worse than the PS2 one. Well, I like the guitar more, but the strum bar isn't as good.

Zen Davis
10-29-2007, 02:12 PM
Is the 360 version as bad in these regards? Is is it just that the Wii port was half assed? What about the PS2 version?

Any one played those versions and can offer their input? Seems like there's less complaints in the 360 thread.

I'd been debating whether to just get it for the PS2, or to sell the PS2 and pick up the 360 version and/or wait for Rock Band.
The PS2 port is completely half-assed man. It seriously looks worse than the first Guitar Hero and the timing plays different. I would tell you to wait and invest in Rock Band. You have to strum much more lightly on GH3 because the controls are extremely senstive compared to the Harmonix games. Even with the same controllers!

I could play fine if I tapped down the strum bar with one finger but if I was playing really fast, the recoil of the strum bar snapping up after you play it gets picked up by the game. I have to be extra senstive to be able to do all right on the game. Not fun at all.

Immediately right after I played GH3, I popped in GH to make sure I wasn't just losing my touch and I was able to nail everything perfectly on Hard.

munch
10-29-2007, 02:22 PM
The PS2 port is completely half-assed man. It seriously looks worse than the first Guitar Hero and the timing plays different. I would tell you to wait and invest in Rock Band. You have to strum much more lightly on GH3 because the controls are extremely senstive compared to the Harmonix games. Even with the same controllers!

I could play fine if I tapped down the strum bar with one finger but if I was playing really fast, the recoil of the strum bar snapping up after you play it gets picked up by the game. I have to be extra senstive to be able to do all right on the game. Not fun at all.

Immediately right after I played GH3, I popped in GH to make sure I wasn't just losing my touch and I was able to nail everything perfectly on Hard.

So you're having that problem too - i.e. really sensitive strum bar? That sucks if so. I used to pick like I would a real guitar, but now I have to use my thumb and try and be careful. It makes the game a lot less fun when I can't strike my usual rock and roll poses and use the whammy bar.

dmaul1114
10-29-2007, 02:46 PM
The PS2 port is completely half-assed man. It seriously looks worse than the first Guitar Hero and the timing plays different. I would tell you to wait and invest in Rock Band. You have to strum much more lightly on GH3 because the controls are extremely senstive compared to the Harmonix games. Even with the same controllers!


Well, that's probably with the new controller, and if I went PS2 I'd be being the game only version and using my GHI and GHII controllers. But maybe not if you didn't have the same problem with GHI wth the same controller. Seems odd that it would be a software issue.

I'm leaning toward just skipping this gen of music games for now given my current backlog and the number of upcoming (and already out that I haven't bought yet) games that I'd rather play anyway.

But GHIII has such a good setlist and so many master tracks that I'm torn.

eugaet
10-29-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm fine w/ the graphics. The drummer animation is pretty hilarious, but it's not called Drum Hero...else they may have put more work into that particular bit. I'm in it for the game, not the graphics. Having a great time.

Zen Davis
10-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Well, that's probably with the new controller, and if I went PS2 I'd be being the game only version and using my GHI and GHII controllers. But maybe not if you didn't have the same problem with GHI wth the same controller. Seems odd that it would be a software issue.

I'm leaning toward just skipping this gen of music games for now given my current backlog and the number of upcoming (and already out that I haven't bought yet) games that I'd rather play anyway.

But GHIII has such a good setlist and so many master tracks that I'm torn.
I am using my Guitar Hero 1 controller.

So you're having that problem too - i.e. really sensitive strum bar? That sucks if so. I used to pick like I would a real guitar, but now I have to use my thumb and try and be careful. It makes the game a lot less fun when I can't strike my usual rock and roll poses and use the whammy bar.

That is EXACTLY my problem with GH3. I have a feeling it's not the guitar but Neversoft's programming.

jlseal
10-29-2007, 03:04 PM
I am using my Guitar Hero 1 controller.



That is EXACTLY my problem with GH3. I have a feeling it's not the guitar but Neversoft's programming.
So its happening with your GH1 controller?

Zen Davis
10-29-2007, 03:10 PM
So its happening with your GH1 controller?

Yeah. I have no problems with GH1, GH2, and 80's.

crystalklear64
10-29-2007, 03:17 PM
I am using my Guitar Hero 1 controller.



That is EXACTLY my problem with GH3. I have a feeling it's not the guitar but Neversoft's programming.
Well, good to hear that the GH1 guitar works with GH3. Now I just need to know if the GH3 guitar works with GH1 and I might have to buy it for PS2...

CombatCraig
10-29-2007, 03:21 PM
Anyone else have their vision affected by the scrolling notes? It's kind of amusing. Every time I sit down at my computer after a song, the text kinda dances in front of my eyes for a few seconds.
Wow I am so glad you mentioned that! After an extremely long session last night I was reading something on the screen and asked my wife "is the screen moving or have I gone crazy" To which she promptly replied I was crazy :roll:

We need to set up a thread with friend codes like we did with Strikers (which I don't think I've played since a month after getting it - just me or anyone else do that?)

I also agree with botticus - I spend the whole time watching the notes to even care about the graphics (except the drummer - that just makes me laugh) but then again show me 1 Wii owner who bought it for graphics. We know the graphics suck - we don't care, we just want fun games.

The only thing I'm disappointed with is the lack of extra controllers. Gee this co op play sure is fun with the wiimote and guitar lol also lack of wii friendly faceplates (or am i just not finding them?)

botticus
10-29-2007, 03:30 PM
We need to set up a thread with friend codes like we did with Strikers (which I don't think I've played since a month after getting it - just me or anyone else do that?)
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157564

There you go. I'll try to get mine posted up tonight.

CombatCraig
10-29-2007, 03:33 PM
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157564

There you go. I'll try to get mine posted up tonight.

Heck yes - as soon as I get home from work in an hour

eugaet
10-29-2007, 06:36 PM
The only thing I'm disappointed with is the lack of extra controllers. Gee this co op play sure is fun with the wiimote and guitar lol also lack of wii friendly faceplates (or am i just not finding them?)Yes, desperately waiting for any word on how to get an extra controller. Hopefully, RO will release the standalone controller package soon.

pasteater
10-31-2007, 12:55 PM
I'm really enjoying this version of the game. As mentioned previously, the guitar feels very nice, good weight to it. Interestingly, when I inserted the disc in the Wii, I couldn't launch the game! There was no GH3 icon in the game channel. It just said "Wii". I had to turn on the 2nd wiimote to get the pointer on the screen and then I had to do a system update. After that... perfection!

you don't need a second Wii-mote to utilize the Wii menu. just use the analog stick on the guitar itself to move the hand around to select GHIII, or anything in the Wii menu for that matter. it's a bit cumbersome...but it works.

Zen Davis
10-31-2007, 01:16 PM
I also agree with botticus - I spend the whole time watching the notes to even care about the graphics (except the drummer - that just makes me laugh) but then again show me 1 Wii owner who bought it for graphics. We know the graphics suck - we don't care, we just want fun games.
Hey "Combat" Craig. Instead of trying to patronize people, try reading what they write.

The graphics for Guitar Hero 3 are noticeably worse than the original Guitar Hero (which came out in 2005). If you're good enough to keep track of the notes, you can start looking around the rest of the screen and it becomes distracting. Go back and read what I worte.

And by the way, don't try being a poster boy for the Wii by exclaiming "all Wii graphics suck, but it's the gameplay that counts". I think a little game called Super Mario Galaxy would like to have a talk with you.

It might even make you its bitch.

SIDENOTE: This nothing against botticus or anyone else who doesn't notice the difference in graphics, but that post just read like it was written by a smarmy douchebag.

jlseal
10-31-2007, 02:08 PM
I don't really think the graphics are bad. e.g. the character models are good, except for the singer. The animations are what's horrendous.

Zeeman
10-31-2007, 04:53 PM
I'm playing on Medium right now and it's really easy, so I can see all of it. If you haven't taken the time to look at the graphics you should. They're disgusting. I wonder what they're like for the other consoles. I don't remember the old PS2 versions being this bad.

Haha... seeing that I have your copy of Guitar Hero II now Munch, I can safely say that the graphics are definitely not that bad on the PS2. In fact, I think the PS2 Version of GHII is graphically superior.

I think everyone should note that those of us who talk about the graphics are not poo pooing the game. I love the game and very happy with it. I just don't think game developers should half ass graphics when porting stuf to the Wii.

When Harmonix was working on Guitar Hero II, they were specifically developing it for the PS2. As a result, you have pretty good graphics and animations because they were working with what they have. Like someone previously mentioned, I think Neversoft specifically developed this for the 360/Ps3 and then ported it outward to the PS2 and Wii. As a result, you get graphics that aren't as sharp and animations that look worse than those possums from that Possum Park in a Goofy Movie.

People get the perception that Wii has shitty graphics and I think that's just because a lot of developers don't take the time to utilize the Wii's power. As mentioned, take a look at games coming out like Super Mario Galaxy, SSB:B, RE: UC, and others. I know the Wii isn't capable of running Gears of War or Assassin's Creed but I know it's definitely powerful enough to have better animations and graphics than the ones in Guitar Hero III.

So for the final point, does it matter? No. Neversoft is lucky that Guitar Hero III is a game that is strongly based in gameplay. Do the graphics provide hilarity? Yes. Nothing beats sitting around with your friends and trying to figure out what animal the male singer looks like or what drugs the drummer is taking. But I do certainly think that next time Neversoft and other developers should try to invest more time working on porting stuff over, the Wii is definitely more capable of presenting graphics than this.

Foo228
10-31-2007, 06:03 PM
Don't know if its just me, but the PS2 version of GHIII has some horrible loading...

eugaet
10-31-2007, 06:14 PM
Nothing beats sitting around with your friends and trying to figure out what animal the male singer looks like or what drugs the drummer is taking.So in other words, just like watching a real band, then? ;)

dmaul1114
10-31-2007, 06:37 PM
The graphics for Guitar Hero 3 are noticeably worse than the original Guitar Hero (which came out in 2005). If you're good enough to keep track of the notes, you can start looking around the rest of the screen and it becomes distracting.


And by the way, don't try being a poster boy for the Wii by exclaiming "all Wii graphics suck, but it's the gameplay that counts". I think a little game called Super Mario Galaxy would like to have a talk with you.

It might even make you its bitch.


IDENOTE: This nothing against botticus or anyone else who doesn't notice the difference in graphics, but that post just read like it was written by a smarmy douchebag.

Fighting smarmy douchebaggery with smarmy douchebaggery. Oh the irony. :D

Zeeman
11-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Ahh... and now the negatives of not having DLC hit:

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/11/01/ghiii-foo-velvet-revolver-and-bb-dlc-discovered/#comments

Will I still keep rocking this game? Yes. Will I be sad that I can't play some Footastic Foo Fighter songs? Yes. C'mon Nintendo... time to let us hook up some external hard drives already!

eugaet
11-01-2007, 11:46 PM
I really hope the DLC gets worked out for the Wii. I was listening to Foo Fighters on the radio the other day wishing I could play some of their songs on GHIII.

BTW, I decided to check out the GHIII demo on the 360 at BB tonight (penny guide run...again). The graphics and character models were vastly superior, of course. Then I decided to play a track...and the experience was exactly the same. I only noticed the difference when I wasn't playing.

Of course, if I could play w/o watching the colored buttons scrolling down the screen like some of you... Maybe one of these days...after lots of practice.

jlseal
11-02-2007, 01:04 AM
They've never said that there won't be DLC. So yeah, Ninty needs to get on the ball.

ArthurDigbySellers
11-02-2007, 10:34 AM
Don't know if its just me, but the PS2 version of GHIII has some horrible loading...

That's why I put all compatible games on HDLoader. It made a huge difference in GH1 and I'm sure it does with GH3 as well. I've only put the disc in my PS2 once, and that was to install it to HDLoader.

eugaet
11-02-2007, 11:43 AM
They've never said that there won't be DLC. So yeah, Ninty needs to get on the ball.They never guaranteed it, either. Just that they're trying to work out DLC with Nintendo. So hopefully, it'll pan out.

Anyone seen official face plates for the Wii controller for sale yet? The GH site (http://www.guitarherogame.com/gh3/) shows three different designs. Wouldn't mind getting some after I get a second guitar.

Foo228
11-02-2007, 12:15 PM
That's why I put all compatible games on HDLoader. It made a huge difference in GH1 and I'm sure it does with GH3 as well. I've only put the disc in my PS2 once, and that was to install it to HDLoader.

hd loader...ill look into that, thanks

Zen Davis
11-02-2007, 12:24 PM
That's why I put all compatible games on HDLoader. It made a huge difference in GH1 and I'm sure it does with GH3 as well. I've only put the disc in my PS2 once, and that was to install it to HDLoader.
Don't burn the PS2 laser out. Google 'Winhiip".

hd loader...ill look into that, thanks

Same to you. Google 'Winhiip'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Loader

ArthurDigbySellers
11-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Don't burn the PS2 laser out. Google 'Winhiip".



Same to you. Google 'Winhiip'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Loader

Yeah, I know about WinHIIP, but I don't have a USB enclosure so swapping the hard drive in and out of my PC would be a pain. It is definitely a cool app though.

Zen Davis
11-02-2007, 05:02 PM
Yeah, I know about WinHIIP, but I don't have a USB enclosure so swapping the hard drive in and out of my PC would be a pain. It is definitely a cool app though.

From what I understand using WinHiip saves the PS2 laser and is generally a lot faster. Also applying ppf and setting modes is generally easier as well.

jbuck138
11-03-2007, 10:34 PM
I'm planning on buying this. Will I need batteries for the guitar or does it use the remote to power it? If I need batteries; which kind?

jlseal
11-04-2007, 01:21 AM
you plug the remote into the guitar, like the nunchuk or classic controller. It doesn't require any extra batteries.

007
11-04-2007, 12:49 PM
I can say that I'm officially unhappy about the DLC, or lack thereof.

I was fully prepared for the fact that there was going to be DLC for the 360 and the PS3, and that the PS2 and Wii would miss out. What I didn't know however, was that there would be DLC packs released DAYS after the game came out, containing songs that were already announced.

Example, 'She Builds Quick Machines' is in a DLC pack... yet, the song was announced to the public a while back AND, here's what gets me, is used in the commercials.

Now, doesn't that just seem like a bit of a slap in the face to anyone else? Two versions are not only crippled, but so soon and lacking things that were assumedly going to be 'on-disc'?

This is exactly what I was worried about with DLC... put out some DLC a month of two after the game's release? That's a little bit better, but less than a WEEK? Why wasn't THAT content placed on the game disc itself?

Guitar Hero is a series that needs to be careful with it's DLC. If they want the series to continue, the DLC, and this is important, really shouldn't be that good. In my view, the game itself should contain announced material, and the DLC should be surprises, and perhaps songs that aren't as in-demand. I remember reading about how either Rock Band or GH3 were negotating with Zeppelin. A Zeppelin DLC pack? It's not that far-fetched, but it's a bullshit idea.

Releasing extra songs as DLC less a week after you've already paid full price for the game is nickel-and-diming at it's finest, especially since it's at the expense of crippling two other versions. If those can be released as DLC that soon, they could've been on the disc, period. Sure, the Wii and PS2 cost less, but really, the PS3 and 360 versions are the same as those crippled versions, but cost more anyway, let alone with the addition of DLC.

So, yeah, I apologize for the long rant, but I honestly think this is some bullshit. I mean, seriously, Activision, we're not stupid. If nothing else, don't put DLC songs in the damn commercials. :roll: