Advance Wars: Days of Ruin - General Discussion - Release Date Jan. 21 2008!!!

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How about a quick Advance Wars history lesson?
(click links for screenshots)
Advance Wars was the first title and "war" game to come to the America in this Nintendo series. It is a turn based strategy game incorporating fake countries at war on different continents. The game is cartoonish and lighthearted - nothing like Call of Duty. In Japan the "Nintendo Wars" series debuted on the Famicom (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/FamicomWars.png) (our NES) in 1988 and many of those maps are found exactly the same in AW 1. There were several Game Boy releases in Japan as well as a Super Famicom (http://ui31.gamefaqs.com/1278/gfs_17367_2_4.jpg) (our SNES) version that introduced fog of war and 4 player multiplayer capabilities. AW1 and 2 incorporated pretty much everything from their Japanese predecessors and have become sleeper hits in doing so. Advance Wars 1 came out for the GBA in 2001 followed by Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising in 2003 - both games received very high ratings (over 9.1 for both at GS). In 2005, Advance Wars Dual Strike (DS) came out for the Nintendo DS combining the previous 2 games graphics and AI with a new battle system - tag team attacks, in which you can attack your foe with two CO Powers in one turn. It also has a new mode in which there is no turn based game play and you can control your vehicles against your opponent in real time.

There has only been one real spin off to Advance Wars, Battalion Wars (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/advancewarsunderfire/index.html?tag=result;title;2) (originally titled Advance Wars: Under Fire), which debuted on the Gamcube in 2005. It received mixed reviews and is not turn based, but a 3D real time third person shooter. It maintains the lighthearted cartoon war theme as well as a similar ranking system (S-Class, A-Class, B-Class...etc.) to Advance Wars. However, some of the brilliance from AW was lost along the way, and does not have much replay value because there is no multiplayer. Battalion Wars 2 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/strategy/battalionwars2/index.html?tag=result;title;0) was released for Wii on October 29!

What do we know about Advance Wars: Days of Ruin?
Advance Wars 2 has been officially named "Advance Wars: Days of Ruin" and has a release date of January 21, 2008.

Gamespot Hands On Preview (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/advancewarsdaysofruin/news.html?sid=6184086&om_act=convert&om_clk=multimodule&tag=multimodule;picks;title;7)

UPDATE: 11/22 - Nintendo Power Holiday Issue 2007

Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
-The main character is Will, after the meteorite hit and killed every one he spent weeks living on only canned bread while digging himself out of rubble and dead bodies.
- 26 main missions
- 30 “training” missions can be unlocked as you complete levels
- new “Bike infantry” unit, can move quickly and capture cities but doesn’t have as much fire power as larger vehicles
-“Flare”, a new tank unit that can lob a bright light at enemies that are concealed by the Fog of War.
-“Duster”, a crop duster aircraft that can attack any kind of aircraft or land unit, but it isn’t as powerful.
- “Mobile Cannon” units
-another new unit is a ship that can mesh smartly with existing units (???)
-Everytime a unit destroys another unit it gains a rank, which gives it added strength. Can be upgrade 3 times, then it is a “veteran” unit
- CO powers aren’t as powerful as before
- The CO rides with a unit of your choice, giving that unit “veteran” status and power. If the unit gets defeated the CO returns to the base.
-As the CO’s unit destroys enemies the CO fills the CO power gauge.
-CO makes nearby vehicle’s more powerful
- CO’s also have a “CO zone” which gives units in the zone different power ups based on the CO. For example, a CO could give units added defense or increase their visual range.
- Friend Code Wifi battles are voice chat inabled, just like Pokemon Diamond & Pearl was.
- Over 150 multiplayer campaigns available.
- You can create your own map which can then be uploaded to a server for all players in the world to try. People can also rank the uploaded map’s quality.
- Other CO’s include Isabella, has amsnesia and can only remember sensitive military details (looks like a shy anime girl ripoff);
-and Waylon, a hot shot flyboy who suddenly finds himself allyless (looks a life a “Are you a bad enough dude to save the president” rip off)


Advance Wars: Days of Ruin boasts a feature set that should have fans excited. Wi-fi multiplayer battles over the Nintendo Wi-fi Connection are finally here, bringing voice chat with them. Also coming is the tentatively titled Map Center, making map creation and sharing a worldwide affair. Players can take their map designs, upload them, and rate and download others via the Map Center, adding hundreds of maps to the 170+ already included.
CO Powers have been toned down and the actual gameplay will be much quiker than old titles. There has only been one confirmed new unit so far, the "bike infantry unit" and that the game has had a graphic and cast overhaul - a new crew and a more realistic military look - Jake, Andy, Blue Moon, Yellow Comet, are all gone. It looks like they all got blown up by meteors...

Official Trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26459.html

New Videos:
http://www.nintendo-master.com/xtnews/news-11508.htm

New Screens:
http://images.filefront.com/Advance+Wars+Days+of+Ruin/;113860;0;/screenshot.html

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/09/AW2.jpg

[catapult37]

Funny you should ask. As far as I know, there was nothing until this appeared this morning on kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/attempting-to-control-excitement-levels/advance-wars-2-real-playable-in-france-305096.php

Though I have to agree with some of the commenters... it's a little suspicious-seeming. And we've not heard a peep out of Nintendo or other news outlets, which is odd.

[soccerstud652]

That is a pretty big coincidence. I figured Nintendo couldn't leave a gem like this alone. I do not know how AWDS' sales numbers were, but this is by far my favorite game franchise for a handheld (even more fun that Phoenix Wright, due to the HIGH replayablitiy and multiplayer).

So does that mean AWDS 2 is coming out in France first? Or is this just the first appearance of the game?

Maybe they will work on a Wii version...that would be great with WIFI playability.

[doc005]

I think AW 2 DS was announced at E3 this year.
It was supposed to come out in Europe Q4 2007, but got pushed back to 2008.
No word on a US release date

[soccerstud652]

I say we get a wishlist going on for this game. How about WIFI playability as well as 3d battle sequences?

[laaj]

I liked AWDS and will be looking forward to its sequel. For many of you waiting for next AW game, check out Panzer Tactics which will be out in mid-October. It features realistic units and wifi multiplayer.

[Over easy]

I kinda prefer the older cast, but IS is probably trying to appeal to a larger amount of DS owners this time around. I probably won't care in the long run, since it's Advance Wars after all.

[sayHey]

Nintendo has never promoted Advance Wars..

I dont understand why either.. It's easily the greatest game on the DS.

[FurryCurry]

This game will be (sorta) nothing without Wi-Fi this time around. Nintendo can't make the same mistake twice!

I too like the new look and I can't wait to see a more finished version of the game in action.

[hootie]

A new Advance Wars?

A new game in my collection. Can't.Wait!

[johnnypark]

I'm a bit late to the game, I'm about 1/3 of the way through AW2, and have AW:DS sitting on my shelf waiting to be played when I'm done. I'm kind of afraid to, though, based on how addictive everyone says it is!

[soccerstud652]

I'm a bit late to the game, I'm about 1/3 of the way through AW2, and have AW:DS sitting on my shelf waiting to be played when I'm done. I'm kind of afraid to, though, based on how addictive everyone says it is!

Finish 2, and the play DS...

[spiwak]

Still haven't beaten AWDS... But I love it and this will be a day one purchase. I'm eager to see all the changes!

[doc005]

new screens

http://www.jeux-france.com/news22039_advance-wars-2-au-mgs.html

[soccerstud652]

Looks great, and screens like that make me glad I was required to take like 10 yearsof French throughout my school career.

[catapult37]

Who said 3D battle animations? I could be wrong, but this looks a lot like cell-shaded 3d:

http://www.jeux-france.com/images0_4_22039.html

pretty sweet.

[Kyattsuai]

Lieutenant O'Brien doesn't really look like an Advance Wars character... at least he's not wearing a tie to war.

[soccerstud652]

Who said 3D battle animations? I could be wrong, but this looks a lot like cell-shaded 3d:

http://www.jeux-france.com/images0_4_22039.html

pretty sweet.

I did. :bouncy:

[Like A Breath]

Advance Wars is the best portable franchise going. The only thing that disappointed me with Dual Strike was the lack of WIFI and no new War Room maps. Still, I'll buy any Advance Wars game they release.

[Inf^Shini]

A new Advance Wars?

A new game in my collection. Can't.Wait!

It'd be a new addiction for me :X

The game that got it all started for me way back in the day was an old game called Nectaris, better known in the US (and on the Wii) as Military Madness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFDx6Hw2ZjU

[soccerstud652]

Did you read the comprehensive history lesson in the OP?

[freshzen]

Considering Advance Wars is the most over-rated game on DS--I'm not excited about this.

They just aren't very fun, unlike most 1st party Nintendo games. Sure the gameplay is "good" but it lacks fun.

[soccerstud652]

It's fun for people who actually like to think and not sit and hit "a" over and over and over like a Mario Party game...

[io]

Yeah, I'd have to say AW DS is still my favorite DS game. Nothing in the (2?) years since then has supplanted it IMO. I know I put more time into it than several other games put together.

But man, I have mixed feelings about another one coming out. I simply don't have enough time in my life to play such a game again! Plus I'd have to assume they will add online play (what with all the other strat games coming out with WiFi recently). That will only make it even MORE of a time sucker!

[Inf^Shini]

Did you read the comprehensive history lesson in the OP?
Were you referring to me?

[soccerstud652]

Yes...it referred to ur post...well added to it.

[Inf^Shini]

Yes...it referred to ur post...well added to it.
Sorry, but I don't get it.
I referred to an old game that came out on the TurboGrafx 16 called Nectaris in Japan and Military Madness in the US. OP doesn't mention anything about it.

[soccerstud652]

I know, I am the OP, I was just saying there is an actual set of games that directly correlates to the Advance Wars series...I was just adding some extra information to your post...check it out, its pretty interesting.

[Inf^Shini]

I know, I am the OP, I was just saying there is an actual set of games that directly correlates to the Advance Wars series...I was just adding some extra information to your post...check it out, its pretty interesting.

Ah, all righty, I see what your saying. I read it earlier, I had no idea it started out on the original NES :-s

Took me a bit to figure out what you were getting at :dunce:

[hiccupleftovers]

I love the new art direction that they're taking. Gorgeous. This will be supreme.

[freshzen]

It's fun for people who actually like to think and not sit and hit "a" over and over and over like a Mario Party game...
I'll take AW over Mario Party any day. Come on now...

[spiwak]

Considering Advance Wars is the most over-rated game on DS--I'm not excited about this.

They just aren't very fun, unlike most 1st party Nintendo games. Sure the gameplay is "good" but it lacks fun.
You're wrong.

[doc005]

there are some new videos of AW DS 2 here

http://www.nintendo-master.com/xtnews/news-11508.htm

[soccerstud652]

The animated fight sequences look cell shaded now. I also like the status bar when capturing properties.

[spiwak]

Other than the darker art direction, it looks like the same game we know and love.

[ratzombie]

I only have the AW2 for the GBA... it's been so long since I last played it I'll probably start it over again. I assume it's not even worth playing the first game, right?

As I've heard it's not all that great, at least not after playing the sequel.

[soccerstud652]

Nope, it is literally the same exact game minus one tank (neotank). Well worth playing the first and it has a muich better tutorial.

[ratzombie]

Nope, it is literally the same exact game minus one tank (neotank). Well worth playing the first and it has a muich better tutorial.

You're confusing me.

[Inf^Shini]

You're confusing me.
yea, his statement pretty much contradicted itself lol

[soccerstud652]

How did it contradict itself? The original statement said that if you played AW2 then AW1 is pointless to play. Advance Wars 1 is the same exact game. AW 2 only adds one new unit, a neotank. The tutorial on how to play is much better in AW1. Therefore, you should definately give AW1 a play.

[mrchainsaw]

It made sense to me soccerstud.

I'm looking forward to this game. I need something new though because I think AW is getting a little old.

[Inf^Shini]

Some info posted up at Filefront.com

http://news.filefront.com/advance-wars-days-of-ruin-is-lookin%e2%80%99-good/

New Screens:

http://images.filefront.com/Advance+Wars+Days+of+Ruin/;113860;0;/screenshot.htm (http://images.filefront.com/Advance+Wars+Days+of+Ruin/;113860;0;/screenshot.html)

Looks like the title of the new Advance Wars will be "Advance Ward: Days Of Ruin"

The title reminds me of Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin :-k

[SL4IN]

wow. after watching the videos, I'm very excited about getting this game. I haven't picked up advance wars since the first one, but I can tell that i'll definately enjoy this one.

[Cao Cao]

New information about the English version has been posted on the net. We'll have some fun. Choose one option, AND ONE ONLY! Well, either choice should give you an idea of the general universe in this game, but you can come back and choose the other option if you want. ;)

DOOR #1: 1 (http://$$$$$$$$$$$$/2jw7ky), 2 (http://$$$$$$$$$$$$/ywj2m5)
Oh, like I'm the only one who thought about this when I read the game's description.
DOOR #2: 1 (http://$$$$$$$$$$$$/3324y4), 2 (http://$$$$$$$$$$$$/354dg8)
Don't worry, it's the real link this time. I love the part about the WFC support.

[SL4IN]

I get more and more excited about this game the mroe I find out about it.

[Kawnhr]

I'm digging the new art style.

[FurryCurry]

I'm digging the new art style.

Same. Although the units both in battle and on the map still look a bit cute.

I'm glad Nintendo is taking a risk for a change.

[Cao Cao]

English trailer's up:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26459.html

[regisphilbi0]

The best part about this is the January 21st release date as posted by Joystiq in their impressions... that is amazing!

[hootie]

WiFi Battling + Voice Chat + Map Sharing = INSTANT GOTY confirmed.

[Foo228]

WiFi Battling + Voice Chat + Map Sharing = INSTANT GOTY confirmed.

but a subtitle that isn't so classy knocks it down some...right?

[q 3]

but a subtitle that isn't so classy knocks it down some...right?

It could be worse. They could have named it Advance Wars: Days of Sorrow!

[emg28]

My addiction to AW started with warsong (genesis). That game kicked ass! Once in a while i still break out my genesis and complete the game. Can't wait for AW: DOR. Who cares about the title? It's all about the gameplay!!

[SL4IN]

jan 21st seems so far away, but I know the wait is going to be worth it. i'm currently trying to score me a copy of dual strike to get back into the mood of advance wars.

[Chacrana]

Hmm... maybe this will be the game to make the series for me. I've always felt like Advance Wars was a dumbed down Fire Emblem, but maybe the design changes will make the game better for me.

[soccerstud652]

bump

[Kendro]

I hope Nintendo takes disconnections seriously when determining rank and whatnot. It was a pain in Mario Kart DS but at least you were only investing a few minutes per match. An Advance Wars match can take a while and I'd hate to be screwed out of a victory because the other person couldn't take a loss, especially 10 minutes into the match.

[mega_n00bzer]

I played 140 hours of dual strike. this game? see you in 5 years

[gators625]

I've never played an AW game before, so I'm looking forward to checking this one out.

[catapult37]

DO WANT. But that 2-screen pic of the main character in the video? Ahh... his expression is a little idiotic.

Anyway, wifi -- i am SO there.

[catapult37]

My addiction to AW started with warsong (genesis). That game kicked ass! Once in a while i still break out my genesis and complete the game. Can't wait for AW: DOR. Who cares about the title? It's all about the gameplay!!
I feel compelled to point out that despite similar gameplay, Warsong (Langrisser..3? I think? in Japan), has no relationship to AW or Intelligent Systems. The biggest clue is that prior to the GBA games, Advance Wars was called Nintendo Wars (actually, Famicom Wars) on the NES.

[soccerstud652]

Updated

[SL4IN]

with this getting a release date in early 08, it makes it easier to rest knowing it will be in my hands soon.

[sayHey]

augh, still need to finish Dual Strike.. =/

its just going to keep piling up!

[dpadilla4]

augh, still need to finish Dual Strike.. =/

its just going to keep piling up!

I have not even started this one. should I pick it up or wait for the new one? Anybody want to sell dual strike let me know

[trunks982]

speaking of a new advance wars for the DS, i have a sealed Advance Wars DS and sealed Advance Wars 2 for the GBA up for auction includes guides. :)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128954

[soccerstud652]

Nice guides...

[soccerstud652]

Updated with cover art!!!

[Stuttering Billy]

Yeah, I'd have to say AW DS is still my favorite DS game. Nothing in the (2?) years since then has supplanted it IMO. I know I put more time into it than several other games put together.


I totally agree. I bought a GBA for the 2 Advanced Wars then bought a DS for Dual Strike...I beat the game, then sell the system since that is all I play on them.

[Cao Cao]

Nice box art!
...but when are they gonna reveal the Kenshiro unit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3jYkZMqqA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaikbjmMMoc

[FurryCurry]

Any preorder deals for this game?

[io]

Any preorder deals for this game?

None that I know of. I do have this preordered at EB Games though and I'm trying to figure out what retail is on it since they often (but not always) tack on $5 extra to DS games.

I want to use my store credit, so that means either EB or Gamecrazy. I don't know what GC charges for it. Looking online, though, I see it for $34.99 at Amazon but $29.99 at Buy.com (with free shipping at both places FYI). Walmart, Target, and Circuit City don't have it listed at all. So I'm thinking that MSRP is $34.99 so it is OK to go with EB on this one. But I guess I need to see what GC charges first anyway.

Oh wait, just checked Best Buy and they have it for $29.99, so now I'm thinking it is supposed to be $29.99 (Amazon is just being wierd I guess). So I *really* need to check with GC now :lol:.

[StinkyCheese]

How can that be the final cover? I thought the name was changed to Dark Conflict! Is this a region thing, like the mario hoops 3-on-3/ mario slam basketball thing?

[Rei no Otaku]

Dark Conflict is what it's called in Europe.

[StinkyCheese]

Dark Conflict is what it's called in Europe.

yep, thats where I live. Dark Conflict > Days of Ruin

[RelentlessRolento]

tagged... very late.


I'd pick this up Day 1 if it weren't for the fact that No More Heroes is a higher priority than this.

[Rei no Otaku]

Commercial for the game

http://kotaku.com/344003/advance-wars-days-of-ruin-commercial-with-special-guest-appearance?autoplay=true

[InuFaye]

Hearing Kotaku spoken is hillarious.

Eh I might get this.

Not 100% on it yet.

[Mr. Roper]

Advance Wars 2 was the worst game I bought for the gba. Was dual strike much better?

[soccerstud652]

Advance Wars 2 was the worst game I bought for the gba. Was dual strike much better?

If you didn't like AW2, I am guessing you didn't like 1 or DS. You probably aren't going to like the new game either. They are all very similar in gameplay.

[ThatDamnDave]

I loved Dual Strike, so I'm looking forward to getting this, though I have a substantial stack of Picross puzzles to get through before it exits my DS.

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... the official website kicks ass.

I have never been this interested in an AW title, so I'm 50/50 on this.

[Inf^Shini]

If I can nab this with some sort of coupon or if some store has a sale on release day, I'll grab it, otherwise it might get lost in my backlog :(

I haven't even finished AWDS on hard yet :bomb:

[soccerstud652]

Any pre-order bonuses or release date bonuses with this game? What is the MSRP on this? $29.99? $34.99?

[dpadilla4]

I think gs/eb is the only store that i selling it for 34.99. I hope nobody buys it there.

[io]

I think gs/eb is the only store that i selling it for 34.99. I hope nobody buys it there.

It is still $34.99 at Amazon. I do have a preorder at EB, but I can just cancel that and preorder at Gamecrazy instead. I better do it soon though as they have a cutoff for preorders sometime in the week before the game comes out. Hopefully they'd get enough of this to hold one for me. You never know, though, sometimes their games are sold as preorders only and they don't get extra copies.

[hootie]

Gah, I can't wait for this game...hopefully we can get some good battles going! I really suck though, so don't expect to lose against me. :)

[io]

I really suck though, so don't expect to lose against me. :)

Note to self: Add hootie's FC first!

[ratzombie]

I'm horrible as well, haven't beat any of the games. :lol:

[Gothic Walrus]

The game looks interesting, but I got maybe a third of the way through the original, haven't touched the second, and haven't played any of the three Fire Emblem games I've picked up on the cheap through CAG.

Is there any reason why I should pick up this one instead of ignoring my backlog? I know this one is supposed to have a new plot, but what other changes are there?

Even though I suck, I'm still tempted to go for it just for online play...which I wouldn't have much time for because of college, but would still rock when I do. :-k

[Inf^Shini]

I'm pretty good at the AW games, I'll add you guys once I get it ;)

How many people for multi-player? 4?

[io]

I'm horrible as well, haven't beat any of the games. :lol:

Note to self:

1) Add Yukine's AW FC ASAP as well
2) Get revenge for him demolishing me in Strikers Charged.

Oh, now I HAVE to get this game day one and actually play it day one instead of tossing it on the backlog pile. I guess DQMJ can take a break (though I haven't played it much recently anyway). I'll have to bust out the Zelda DS for this ('tis still in its box). Let's spend next week playing single-player (I have to get back into this as I haven't touched AW DS in over a year) and go for some multiplayer on the weekend or the following week.

[fatbeer]

This is defiantly a must have game for me. I love games that involves with military strategy. I wonder should I be a cheapass and freeze my nads at Nintendo store trying to get one 25 free copy of this game? I was figuring a non-mainstream game that my chances are good.

[StinkyCheese]

I'm up for some advance wars matches. when the game comes out here, I'll be sure to buy it. PM me if your interested. good players not apllicable

[JEKKI]

I tried to play Dual Strike this week.

I found it middle of last year for $15, complete at gamecrazy!

I brought it to work and beat the first 2 stages during my breaks,

then I went home and saw the commercial for the new one.

at first (b4 I saw the commercial) I was like "man this game looks tite but I am BROKE! I'ma jus play the old one I got on my shelf!"

now it's all wi-fi and shyt and I'm like "nah mang... I gotta save my money now to get the new one and play it instead!"

[hootie]

Though I'm still hyped for this game...IS has really thinned it down.

No Hard Campaign
No War Room
No Combat
No Survival
No Place to buy new maps/etc (Hachi)

WTF!

[Zen Davis]

Kotaku Impressions.

I spent way too much time playing Advance Wars: Day of Ruins over the weekend. The latest in the franchise, remains just as addictive as its predecessors. I was disappointed to find that the more detailed, grittier look found in the game's cut scenes vanish when you drop into play.

Once you're in the game, duking it out with a new slate of bad guys across a post apocalyptic wasteland, the game looks an awful lot like Advance Wars Double Strike. Fortunately you don't have a whole lot of time to sit around marveling at how the vehicles still look like Tonka trucks, because the game's artificial intelligence ramps up quickly.


By level 14, in fact, I had hit the sort of wall that required me to play the conflict over, and over, and over again, getting so annoyed at my imaginary adversary at one point that me wife asked me who I was playing. (She walked off in disgust when she realized I'd been yelling at the DS and not a real person.)
In fact, some of the single player campaign battles almost feel like tactical brainteasers. These levels are constructed so tightly that I suspect there are actually only a few ways to win.


The gameplay is pretty much the same as found in previous versions, though a few tweaks and a few new units help to make the experience feel fresh.


The game allows your units to level up in battle, up to level three. Each time you defeat an enemy and go up a level that unit gets a bonus in attack and defense.


While the commander special attacks found in Double Strike remain in the game, you can also now pick the commander up in a unit, which gets an instant jump up to level 3. A zone around the commander's unit also gets offensive and defensive boosts. The zone increases as your commander's power boosts with victories. When the unit carrying the commander is defeated the commander is sent back to camp to await a new ride, but not removed permanently from the battle.


The new units also add a couple of twists to gameplay. For instance, rigs can build temporary ports and airports. Other new units include motorcycle-mounted infantry units, a land or air attacking Duster plane, a mobile anti-tank unit and a unit that can shoot a flare to reveal hidden units.


Since I was tucked away in the mountains, internet free, over the weekend I wasn't able to test out the coolest new feature of Days of Ruins: The voice-chat enabled online play.


The game supports up to four players either in online play or local multi-card play. It also allows you to create and trade maps, which should give the game plenty of legs.


Having spent the weekend, mostly, beating up AI, I'm psyched to test out my tactics on real live opponents.



Even if the game hadn't changed a thing from Dual Strike the inclusion of online multiplay would make it worth the price, but the beefed up AI and play tweaks mean that I've got a new addition I can carry around in my pocket.

[ratzombie]

Friend Code is:

094613
349970

[suko_32]

My FC is 051663-661095. Post here or PM me if you want a match.

[Inf^Shini]

Though I'm still hyped for this game...IS has really thinned it down.

No Hard Campaign
No War Room
No Combat
No Survival
No Place to buy new maps/etc (Hachi)

WTF!

Say What?!?

Those were the perfect options to make the gameplay last longer :cry:

[ratzombie]

My FC is 051663-661095. Post here or PM me if you want a match.

Added you.

Played a match online, got beat badly but it was fun.

[suko_32]

Added you.

Played a match online, got beat badly but it was fun.

DS is done charging and added you as well. If you want to get a match in sometime today, let me know.

[Logain8955]

Wtf? I thought it shipped today, in stores tomorrow. Where are you guys getting your copies?

[El Gray]

Does anyone else in the thread have a headset? I haven't picked up the game yet, but I'll be curious to see how well voice chat works.

[suko_32]

Wtf? I thought it shipped today, in stores tomorrow. Where are you guys getting your copies?

Right now it's either:

1) The Nintendo World Store
2) Local independent game store having a copy and selling it early
3) Other means

[ratzombie]

DS is done charging and added you as well. If you want to get a match in sometime today, let me know.

Maybe sometime tonight, I'm going to be leaving the house here soon and won't be back until later.

[naes]

Not gonna say who, but a certain CAG uses a certain torrent site that I use and I noticed that this CAG happened to leave a comment on the Days of Ruin torrent :lol:
Wtf? I thought it shipped today, in stores tomorrow. Where are you guys getting your copies?

[soccerstud652]

ObjectioN!!!!!!!!!!!

[fatbeer]

I got this early from the Nintendo World store, my early impression so far is very positive. It feels like the completely new game. The whole combat system is completely overhauled to balance both aspects of gameplay and game mechanics. Perhaps to make the online player much better.


What new in this game compare to previous game, Advance Wars Dual Stirke?


1. New Art and Story- The characters in this look less like cartoon characters instead they look more realistic. Story is taken more serious then the last time, people actually actually get killed this time.


2. A new side quest mission on story mode- During the story mode, you will unlock a new optional side quest missions or otherwise known as free maps. They have no impact on storyline, but you can play them to unlock stuff like characters, map or music.


3. New method of earn maps and CO- You can no longer buy maps, music or CO(Commanding Officers) instead you need to earn them by progressing further in game or play side quest mission in story mode.


4. Overhall of CO Powers- The commanding officer no longer have to wait in sidelines and bark orders; they can join the battle as well. In order to use them- place a unit in headquarters or structure that can develop units (factory, airport or seaport) and select CO. They will cost 1/2 of unit cost in order to summon them. If a CO enters a bomber which initial cost is 20000, it will cost 10000 for CO to take control of unit.CO will make that unit slightly stronger along new command zone

5.Command Zone-The command zone grants any friendly units nearby defense or offensive boost. Your commander gets two command zone levels: half bar for zone 1 or full bar for zone 2 for full strength. You can level up these command zone like the CO power by either taking damage or dealing damage. When you use your CO powers it will drop it back to zero.


6. New rankings system- In previous version, you get cap for 100 in either speed, power or technique. Now thats different, they remove the cap which enable to net higher scores and more bragging rights for high scores.

7. Units can level up- It same thing as Military Madness, when your unit kills an enemy they can deal more damage then before. Level cap at level 3.

8. New units.
A)Unit: Duster(Air)
Cost: 13000
Brief Description- Sort like Mid Tank of air units. It has the offensive power helicopter on ground troops and fighter on air units. It's not quite as strong as counterpart, but they are good all around

B)Unit:Seaplanes(Air)
Cost: 15000 (Only Carriers can produce them)
Brief Description- A stronger version of duster, but with limited ammo and you need a pricey carrier to summon them.

C)Unit: Bike (light ground infantry vechile)
Cost:2500
Brief Description- A combination of infantry and recon. High movement with weaker offensive punch of recon , but they can capture structures

D)Unit:Flare(light tank)
Cost:5000
Brief Description- A weaker version of light tank with the exceptions of lower cost and has secondary ability called flare, it reveals more areas in fog of war.

E)Unit: War Tank(heavy tank)
Cost:16000
Brief Description- They are the new Neotanks of Days of Ruin. Not as strong or broken as Neo Tank, but cost is lower.

F)Unit:Rigs (light armor vechile)
Cost:5000
Brief Description- Apc's are gone, say hello to new Rigs. They share similar characteristics of Apc like transportation of infantry or resupply your units, but this time they can build temporary structure like airport or seaports on selected areas with a cost of one turn. These temporary structures act a closer safe havens to repair or refuel your units.

G)Unit: Anti Tank (missle tank unit)
Cost: 11000
Brief Description- Combination of both artillery and light tank. They can strike up close or afar. Unlike artillery, they use hit and run and can defense themselves when enemy strikes near. It not hard to figure out that it's main purpose is to destroy tanks.

F)Units: Gunboat (naval unit)
Cost: 6000
Brief Description- Combination of lander and cruiser in one. It can transport ground units and attack other naval unit with moderate damage for a low cost of 6000. But one huge drawback, it can only hold one shell. You need a Rig trailing this unit if you intend to attack more then one time.


9. What's remove from this game? Experience points, Neo Tank, Ship the can repair naval units, Hachi Shop, War Room, Combat, Survival, (hard mode?, i didn't beat it yet)

10. Easier to navigate menu with more hot keys or options

11. New Save feature- You can no longer cheat and spam multiple record to get easy medals. Your save is attach to file you load with.

12. Can save up to 50 custom maps.

13. Reply the previous campaign mission without starting a new record.

14. Most importantly is the addition of Wifi play.

[KhaosX]

FC
201987-576233

Maybe someone should start a new topic for FC lists and such, or modify the first post.

[supraazn]

Maybe someone should set up a cag tournament also?
I haven't got the game yet but i am planning to get it from BB tomorrow.

[io]

FC
201987-576233

Maybe someone should start a new topic for FC lists and such, or modify the first post.

It should be in the OP of this thread, but that is dependent on either the OP doing that or a mod who is interested in the game stepping in and doing it. I can't modify threads in this forum or I'd do it as I'll be into this game once I get it... I can't think of an uber-mod who would be playing this, though you never know. So if the OP doesn't want to, I guess someone else needs to make a new thread for it.

[soccerstud652]

It should be in the OP of this thread, but that is dependent on either the OP doing that or a mod who is interested in the game stepping in and doing it. I can't modify threads in this forum or I'd do it as I'll be into this game once I get it... I can't think of an uber-mod who would be playing this, though you never know. So if the OP doesn't want to, I guess someone else needs to make a new thread for it.

I will gladly work on it. Just list your codes and I will start to compile them in a few days.

EDIT: Can someone do me a favor though. In the interest of quickness, can someone compile the codes thus far and make a reply here and I will post it in the OP.

[Draekon]

EDIT: Can someone do me a favor though. In the interest of quickness, can someone compile the codes thus far and make a reply here and I will post it in the OP.

A bit lazy are we? :P


Code - CAG Username

201987-576233 - KhaosX (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=58595)
051663-661095 - suko_32 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8017)
094613-349970 - yukine (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=34843)


Even alphabetized for quicker access with links straight to PMs! 8-)

Not going to post mine since playing turn based strategy games against others is eye stabbing fun for me.



Anyways, I must say I like this main character about a million times more than the last game. God I hated him so much.

[soccerstud652]

I'm finishin up Dual Strike today so I can start DOR tomorrow. Posted friend codes on front page. Thanks Draekon.

[ratzombie]

Not gonna say who, but a certain CAG uses a certain torrent site that I use and I noticed that this CAG happened to leave a comment on the Days of Ruin torrent :lol:
What torrent site are you not a member of? :lol:


Shh!!

No, seriously. I'm buying it as well, I just don't want to buy two copies for multi-card play with my girlfriend.

[naes]

Heh

You're also on the other site that is related to this site.

Wow, it's starting to sound like gibberish :lol:
What torrent site are you not a member of? :lol:


Shh!!

No, seriously. I'm buying it as well, I just don't want to buy two copies for multi-card play with my girlfriend.

[KhaosX]

The push to talk option with friends is awesome.

[soccerstud652]

Now I need that headset.

[keithp]

Now I need that headset.

Why? I thought it uses the built-in mic-?

[supraazn]

I got the game just now ... gonna start the campaign till i get the hang of things.

Yes, it uses the built-in mic but some people prefer the headset so they dont have to move in close to the mic and get spit on the screen.
plus its sometimes hard to hear voices through the DS's speakers.

Me, im fine with the built-in mics.

[suko_32]

You can just use headphones to listen to people's voices. The mic is good enough for others to hear you as well.

[soccerstud652]

But I like cool unessesary accessories.

[KhaosX]

You dont need to move in closer to the screen to talk, if anything it makes it worse. You can talk from the same distance you play and the other person can hear you fine.

[io]

Bah - got the call from Gamecrazy that my game was in Tuesday around noon but I couldn't make it up there. I probably won't till Thursday at the earliest. :cry:

[supraazn]

I just picked it up today ... playing through the Campaign as i speak.

So far i'm loving it ... definitely loving it.

[fatbeer]

I just beat campaign mode, it's not that difficult if plan out a strategy. The last stage you will encounter five lasers, bombardment of bombs that can't be destroyed and enemies keep spawning. If place your units in right spot, you can avoid most of devastating attack. To stop the spawn, start camping your strongest units near the entry point along with the commander field ability, you can rake up easy kills and level up your units in no time. Beat it in 10-12 turns.


The hard part in this game are those trial maps. Those maps just as hard as hard mode in Advance Wars Dual Strike . A smart aggressive AI with the combination of fog of war, it makes you start to second guess your strategy. The AI mindset will quickly adjust to your play style.

[sayHey]

cant bring myself to buy this until i've given the proper attention to the first DS one..

i got stuck and abandoned it on some helicopter battle where i'm forced to use the damn old man, who i never took the time to use and level up in the war room or anything.

give me back my colin D:

[supraazn]

Damn it ... I can't for the sake of God beat Side Mission T23.
Tried it multiple times now ... i get stalemate at best ... but i can't win.
I end up clashed in the middle fighting to keep at least half of the cities.
And that is hard as hell just in by itself. I got close to their base a couple of times but i keep getting screwed near the final blow.


I can go on with the story missions but my pride wont let me move on if i already getting owned... so far all the side missions and main mission i've got mostly S ranks and only a few A's all on first tries...

Any tips from those that beat that map?

[GenDV138]

Picked up the game this morning, haven't gotten to play it yet but I've enjoyed the previous Advance Wars games. Probably play some tonight or tomorrow at work.

Here's my friend code:

287887-132217

[tokitoki50]

I'm loving the game, but I have yet to get an S on any of the missions after mission 4. They're all A's.. Is there a trick to getting an S?

[hootie]

Woo, finally picked this up! Heres my FC, which I will put in my sig asap:

335131-837088

[soccerstud652]

Does this game have the real time mini game that was in Dual Strike? That was one of the best parts of DS.

[El Gray]

Does this game have the real time mini game that was in Dual Strike? That was one of the best parts of DS.
That was Combat, and no, that was one of the removed features. D'oh.

[fatbeer]

I'm loving the game, but I have yet to get an S on any of the missions after mission 4. They're all A's.. Is there a trick to getting an S?

Getting the S Rank are pretty easy now since they remove 100 point restrictions on power, speed or technique. If you focus your strategy on speed, you should be fine. Speed strategies such as rushing the base . Also, keep your casualties to minimum you should be fine.

[hootie]

. . .rushing the base . . . keep your casualties to minimum.

Is that even possible? It sure isn't for me..:lol:

[Big Fo]

I like what they've done to the units. Battleships that can fire after moving, no more nanotank, bike infantry, no pipecannons or oozium, etc.

The campaign has been pretty good so far, all A's and S's but I'm sure it'll get harder soon. Is it true they removed the hard mode?

[supraazn]

When you first start off make 1 oe 2 recon and sent them off to disrupt the enemy's base capturing. giving you a greater cash start.

Then You get mad technique pts for doing things like tanking artillerys.
Just move ahead slowly with rockets/artillery in the back, a anti-tank in the middle and a Tank in the front to shield them. add in some anti-air and missiles if map is plane heavy.

inch your way to the enemy's HQ and then set some units on their bases so they cant produce units.
Then kill the rest or even better, make a wall around the HQ with tanks with 1 or 2 Rigs with soldiers in them to cature the HQ.

Just try to use this technique when you can and it's an easy win and an easy S rank.

Keep some recons around to damage those pesky anti-tanks too.


I love this game.


You want hard mode? jump onto Wifi and you might get a opponent that will make you wish you had an AI

[fatbeer]

S Rank is based on 3 stats. The maximum is 150 per category.

Speed-How fast you beat your stage
Power-Average damage dealt in stage
Technique-Based on casualties lost in battle


Since Power is based on average damage dealt in stage, you could kill one enemy and get 150. Trust me, I got a 150 in Power for one kill. You shouldn't build too many Recons. They are good at disrupting the AI at start, but in long hall they will affect your power rating as well technique, they're fragile as hell. I prefer using Anti Air to disrupt the enemy. Anyway, build units that deal great damage - Anti-Air, Artilllery, Bombers, 3 lines of Tanks(tank, medium tank, war tank) helicopter, and battleship. There are others units deal great as well, but these troops are most useful on any variety of missions.


Speed and technique are really lump together. If you want a good speed along with technique, you need to place your units very carefully. You can rotate your troops by place them in back once injured or combine them. Always make sure your units are one square behind in movement. You should bait weaker or inexpensive units on front and leave the stronger units, commander or missile units on rear. If they took the bait, strike with your strongest unit and level them up. If AI doesn't take the bait, they will start to retreat over and over again until they can't run no more. Giving you full control of map, as well as resources.

Most stages can be won by building a large arsenal of bombers.

[KhaosX]

Getting the S Rank are pretty easy now since they remove 100 point restrictions on power, speed or technique. If you focus your strategy on speed, you should be fine. Speed strategies such as rushing the base . Also, keep your casualties to minimum you should be fine.

Mine is completely opposite. As someone mentioned, a well placed tank/artillery/rocket always works, and while it usually takes a while, i end up ranking on average 75/120/120 for speed/power/tech.

[Socheata]

Damn it ... I can't for the sake of God beat Side Mission T23.
Tried it multiple times now ... i get stalemate at best ... but i can't win.
I end up clashed in the middle fighting to keep at least half of the cities.
And that is hard as hell just in by itself. I got close to their base a couple of times but i keep getting screwed near the final blow.


I can go on with the story missions but my pride wont let me move on if i already getting owned... so far all the side missions and main mission i've got mostly S ranks and only a few A's all on first tries...

Any tips from those that beat that map?

This is what I did, if I remember correctly.

From the get-go, get two bikes. One to capture the airport at the top-left and one to capture the city just below it. After that, start building mech units as oppose to infantry. I find mech units to be more effective on this map due to their slightly greater traveling distance on mountains and they're, of course, more powerful than infantry. I would move all the mechs towards the center and start capturing those cities. The enemy will probably have infantry units so you should be okay. After acquiring most of the cities in the middle, I would build Bombers. And by then, you should be able to overpower the enemy to build a T-Chopper equipped with an infantry/mech that you can drop on the base to capture it. I ended up with an A ranking (conquered the enemy on 28th day).

Oh, and building tanks is kind of useless on this map since they'll take forever to reach the enemy.

[supraazn]

@Socheata - That isnt the map i was talking about. I actually beated that airport map very easily.

T23 was the one that you start on the top left and the opponent is on the bottom right. Theres nothing but plains and forests. you start of with no buildings but the enemy has 1. you only have 2 bases and no airports.

I just beat it today tho... man it was hectic as hell. Took 46 turns but i ended up with a 324pt S rank.
Man i was so happy when i beat it. I was just spamming rockets and anti-tanks. Had a few med tanks and small tanks with them... inched my ass towards the other side and eventually beat it.
Definitely a map you need to take your time on, because it nearly impossible to beat it in less than 35-40 days.

[snakelda]

hm...Really tempted in picking this one up even for MSRP!I just beat Dual Strike but the funny thing is,I couldn't beat the Final Mission on NORMAL!I think I'm at Mission 10 on Hard.

[fatbeer]

@Socheata - That isnt the map i was talking about. I actually beated that airport map very easily.

T23 was the one that you start on the top left and the opponent is on the bottom right. Theres nothing but plains and forests. you start of with no buildings but the enemy has 1. you only have 2 bases and no airports.

I just beat it today tho... man it was hectic as hell. Took 46 turns but i ended up with a 324pt S rank.
Man i was so happy when i beat it. I was just spamming rockets and anti-tanks. Had a few med tanks and small tanks with them... inched my ass towards the other side and eventually beat it.
Definitely a map you need to take your time on, because it nearly impossible to beat it in less than 35-40 days.


I just beat that map a few hours ago and boy... I have to tell you that map is tough. Your in total disadvantage in that map; one less base, limited resources and tough terrain. Even if you manage to get close, your factory is too far away to back up your troops while enemy is within walk distance. You have to slowly grind your way down with artillery or rockets and support them with infantry, tank or mech units. I beat it in 27 turns, but I score slighty better then you. I got an overall score of 336(110 speed,107 power ,119 tech)

[supraazn]

wow, yea i guess i could have done it faster .... I think my speed was 80 something ... but my power and tech were very high like 120.

i spend a lot of the time land locked in the middle ... couldnt move in because of their rockets and vice versa. barely keeping half of the citys.
Finally the AI made some stupid mistakes and i was about to move in.


i really did enjoy that mission at the end tho because of the challenge of it.

[KhaosX]

The (what i believe is the) last campaign mission is head bashing hard and annoying.

[DarkKnightCecil]

Gah, I'm stuck on mission 14.
I have a strategy in mind that might work but it will be a process that will take several turns.

[soccerstud652]

Remember, always move in packs so that your power wehicles are in front and protect your indirect hit units. If you move together, the computed will have a hard time beating you, and you will relly limit casualties.

[DarkKnightCecil]

Well my plan is to just protect HQ by filling in the gap by the bridge by the second factory using ground units than just building up a squad of Battleships and get a couple of infantries onto a lander and have the Battleships escort the Lander to the enemy HQ after clearing any ground units using the battleships than just having the battleships attack any units that get near my infantry while it's taking over their HQ.

[TomCloud9]

My friend code 481160858752

I am adding everyone on the front page! thanks

[soccerstud652]

You're added too.

[ratzombie]

Added everyone that is in the OP.

[GenDV138]

I've added everyone on the front page as well, will try to add anyone else who posts their codes later.

[Stuttering Billy]

Just add'd everyone on the front page. My friend code is 210577-721648

[KhaosX]

Finally beat campaign... I swear that last mission throws every common sense war tatic you learn out the window. I had to rely on a infantry wall

I also added everyone on the front page


Edit:
First online public multiplayer game was an awkward draw for me, even though i shoulda won. I played Wing Cape with someone on snow weather and victory day limit was 20. Is seems almost impossible to do with snow wether let alone the 5k income per turn.

[jer7583]

Does anyone have any tips for T35 - Center River? I've tried it about 6 times now and the enemy indirect units are just too damn powerful to crack. It also seems like it starts them off with a few medium tanks and rockets, for extra frustration. Once those missles get to Veteran status, it's impossible to even get across any of the bridges.

I've had the most luck with spreading forces between the top and bottom bridges, and using missles to keep infantry out of the center island, but the CPU seems to just respond to quickly to allow me to get far enough on either side. Anyone finished this map? thanks for the input.

[slidecage]

I just beat campaign mode, it's not that difficult if plan out a strategy. The last stage you will encounter five lasers, bombardment of bombs that can't be destroyed and enemies keep spawning. If place your units in right spot, you can avoid most of devastating attack. To stop the spawn, start camping your strongest units near the entry point along with the commander field ability, you can rake up easy kills and level up your units in no time. Beat it in 10-12 turns.


The hard part in this game are those trial maps. Those maps just as hard as hard mode in Advance Wars Dual Strike . A smart aggressive AI with the combination of fog of war, it makes you start to second guess your strategy. The AI mindset will quickly adjust to your play style.


you can only level up to 3 right?

i would love to see a game like this use pure RPG tactics. where you have hps .

if this game you could level up i would of got it in a second. Instead i just rented it off gamefly

[KhaosX]

you can only level up to 3 right?

i would love to see a game like this use pure RPG tactics. where you have hps .

if this game you could level up i would of got it in a second. Instead i just rented it off gamefly

I can see it now... Infantry gets 10+ kills and suddenly mows down a fresh wartank.

[DarkKnightCecil]

you can only level up to 3 right?

i would love to see a game like this use pure RPG tactics. where you have hps .

if this game you could level up i would of got it in a second. Instead i just rented it off gamefly
There are these types of game, go get Fire Emblem.

[supraazn]

Does anyone have any tips for T35 - Center River? I've tried it about 6 times now and the enemy indirect units are just too damn powerful to crack. It also seems like it starts them off with a few medium tanks and rockets, for extra frustration. Once those missles get to Veteran status, it's impossible to even get across any of the bridges.

I've had the most luck with spreading forces between the top and bottom bridges, and using missles to keep infantry out of the center island, but the CPU seems to just respond to quickly to allow me to get far enough on either side. Anyone finished this map? thanks for the input.


Yes that was a tough one.
I don't recalled exactly what i did but i did get a 310 pt S rank in 23 days/turn.
First off, send some bikes to the middle islands and try to capture those cities first.
The cities near your base are easy to get to so you can capture them later with spare infantry.
The player that controls the island first has the upperhand.
You basically want to be the king of the hill(island) for the whole mission.
When you get some territories up there send in a tank or two asap to block off the island's bridge on the enemies side. if your tank is hurt bring it back to one of your city to heal and then bring the next tank up.
Rinse and repeat that so you don't lose alot of units.
Have recons or cheap units there too for sacrifices, in case you lose a tank and there no unit to block the enemy from coming it.
Make sure your tank is on the bridge or one square behind it so that it cant be hit on all three sides and just the front.
Get an artillery unit up ASAP to guard the front tank unit, set it right behind the tank so you can hit whatever hits the tank.
When you can bring up some war tanks with rockets/anti-tanks to upgrade the defense there.
Some mechs will try to cross into the city right above the mountain on the island, make sure you leave that city clear so that when they go on it your unit on the city on its immediate left will see it left.

At the same time send a tank or two to the top forests to guard the top, they wont see you in the fog and when they run into you, hit them back.
Remember to Capture all cities around you HQ too ....
After awhile you should have more money and units then the AI because you have most of the cities.
Attack from the bottom, bring in tanks, indirects and a Rig with a soldier in it. surround and shield the enemy HQ and capture it.

Thats what i can think of just on top of my head, hope it helped.

[fatbeer]

Does anyone have any tips for T35 - Center River? I've tried it about 6 times now and the enemy indirect units are just too damn powerful to crack. It also seems like it starts them off with a few medium tanks and rockets, for extra frustration. Once those missles get to Veteran status, it's impossible to even get across any of the bridges.
.

You can't be serious, are you? That maps is incredibly easy because you can get a perfect 450 in 5 days.

Turn 1- Build a rig on southern factory and infantry on left factory.

Turn 2- Move your infantry on rig. Move rig 2 spaces down and 4 spaces to right. Build a Anti Air Unit on any of factories.

Turn 3- Move the rig 1 space down and 5 space right. Drop your infantry to right square. Move the Anti Air towards the Middle Bridge, which is one space apart from the middle bridge.

Turn 4- Use your infantry to capture the enemy headquarters. Position the Rig north side of infantry. As for the Anti Air, move it towards the second middle bridge (2 right,2 down,2 right)

Turn 5- Save your game. Move Anti Air 2 spaces to right and 2 space to the north to kill infantry in one attack to get perfect power. If you can't kill it in one turn, quit and load. After you killed the infantry, capture the enemy headquarters for easy victory.

[supraazn]

You can't be serious, are you? That maps is incredibly easy because you can get a perfect 450 in 5 days.

Turn 1- Build a rig on southern factory and infantry on left factory.

Turn 2- Move your infantry on rig. Move rig 2 spaces down and 4 spaces to right. Build a Anti Air Unit on any of factories.

Turn 3- Move the rig 1 space down and 5 space right. Drop your infantry to right square. Move the Anti Air towards the Middle Bridge, which is one space apart from the middle bridge.

Turn 4- Use your infantry to capture the enemy headquarters. Position the Rig north side of infantry. As for the Anti Air, move it towards the second middle bridge (2 right,2 down,2 right)

Turn 5- Save your game. Move Anti Air 2 spaces to right and 2 space to the north to kill infantry in one attack to get perfect power. If you can't kill it in one turn, quit and load. After you killed the infantry, capture the enemy headquarters for easy victory.

Damn :bomb: lol i just followed your guide and it worked.... well you can forget my guide then haha. making me look stupid ....:-#

so far the only other perfect 450pt map i have got was 37 Fire and Water.

[jer7583]

well, that worked fast! Thanks for the help. I never thought to approach it from a rush to the HQ angle. I thought that it just started the enemy off with medium tanks and such.

[sparklecopy]

Just got the game 3 days ago. I don't know if it's cause I was weaned on all 3 advance wars and all 3 fire emblems but this game's campaign mode is super easy. I've beaten 25 rounds with ease in a day and a half, and gotten 18 S ranks and 3 A ranks, 2 B Ranks and 2 C ranks, Campaign 22 I think, gave me problems and now I'm at the last level and it's a fucking bitch. I spent more time at the last round, which I still haven't beat than all 25 rounds! Any hints? Gamefaqs has no gamefaqs. This level is crazy. The guy spawns infinite units and throws 5 lasers at you and a megabomb. It's a massacre after 3 days and if you make one mistake it's over.

[fatbeer]

Here are some more perfect guides. Some maps are impossible to get a perfect score due to short amount of time or troops aren't strong enough for instant kill. Almost got a perfect score on t41 comb map and t22 peril maze, but I was a few points shy. At least, I know that is possible to get perfect score on those map. I won't go in exact details on that maps because those maps involves beating multiple AI at once and turns involve in 17-25 phase. Even if I get a perfect score on those maps, I need to replay them at least 5 times to make sure that same strategy is guarantee to work.


T3 Feline Basin - Score 450
Turn 1: Build a recon on center factory.

Turn 2: Place the CO on the recon and move it left of enemy headquarters(8 left). Build a bike on center factory.

Turn 3: Use the recon and destroy the nearest infantry. Move bike left of your headquarters(5 left). Build a recon on center factory.

Turn 4: Move the CO recon 1 space up and 1 space to left to kill the infantry. Move the non-CO recon to left of enemy headquarters(8 left) and attack infantry. Now, use your bike to capture the enemy headquarters

Turn 5: Use bike to capture enemy headquarters for an easy victory.


T12 Intricate Map - Score 450

Turn 1: Build a mech
Turn 2: Move the mech to your headquarters(1 right, 1 down). Build an Anti Air.
Turn 3: Move your mech 2 spaces to right. For Anti Air, place a CO and move it 5 up,1 right.
Turn 4: Move your mech 2 spaces to right. Use the Anti Air to kill the enemy bike troop.(3 right)
Turn 5: Use the Anti Air vechile to kill the nearby infantry.(4 right,1 down)
Turn 6: Use the Anti Air to kill the middle ground troop. (1 right, 2 down)
Turn 7: Use the Anti Air to kill the enemy placed on factory. (1 left,1 down) Now, use the mech and capture enemy headquarters(2 right)
Turn 8: Use mech to capture enemy headquarters for an easy victory.


T18 Cat Island- Score 450

Turn 1: Build a Rig on center factory.

Turn 2: Move rig 1 up and 2 spaces to the right. Build an infantry on center factory.

Turn 3: Place infantry on Rig and move the Rig 5 spaces to right(do not move it all the way, it will trigger a tank build on northeast factory). Build a tank on center factory.

Turn 4: Move Rig to right side of enemy headquarters(3 right, 2 up, 1 left) and drop your infantry on enemy headquarters. For the tank, place a CO on it and move it south side of enemy bike(1 up, 5 right) to kill it.

Turn 5: Use infantry and capture enemy headquarters. Save your game. Use your tank to attack the nearby artillery. If you fail to kill it, keep reloading it until you kill it.

Turn 6: Use infantry to capture enemy headquarters for an easy victory.

[geigerm]

Man, I really want to buy this, but with my birthday coming up soon, I'm under strict orders to not buy myself anything until after that. Argh ... sounds as awesome as I'd expect, though.

[JEKKI]

damn sum of u guys got skillz man... I havent even gotten S rank since chapter 4... and I'm on chapter 8 now I think...

also I donno if it's been posted, but here's a base damage chart:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=943675&topic=40912921

link has both PDF and JPG versions of the chart!!

[fatbeer]

I beat the last stage,C26 Sunrise, again in 6 turns. My total score is 410(133 speed, 150 power and Tech 127) for that stage. I think it's impossible to get perfect score. Come on, six turns with 133 speed. I will retry using the same strategy for that stage. If it work most of time, I provide a step by step strategy on how to beat that stage.



Edit- I hope I didn't make too many mistakes typing it. To much steps to follow through.

C26 Sunrise - Score Around 400's, 6 days


Turn 1
Northwestern side
- Pick the infantry that is position to the left of War Tank. Move 2 spaces to right to capture vacant factory.
- Choose the other infantry and start capturing that ComT(1 down, 2 right).
- Move War Tank 2 up, 2 right.
- Move Rocket to nearby airport(4 right).
- Move Anti Air 5 right,1 down.

Southwestern side
- Move both infantries to capture both ComT and Airport.
- Move Fighter 6 up, 3up.
- Move missle 3 left.
- Move tank 1 left.
(Why move those two units to left? On all odd turns, the nest launches an attack that is similar to silo on western side, but it deals 5 damage instead.
This attack will always target units with highest cost. Both of these units arn't very useful for this maps, so use them as shields to protect your units.

Southeastern side
- Move War Tank 3 up.
- Move Anti-Tank 1left,3 up.
- Move infantry that is position south of Bomber 2 right,1 up.
- Move the other infantry to capture airbase (2 right, 1 up).
- Move bomber 7 up.

Turn 2
- Use all infantry to capture all the bases.
- Use Rocket to attack enemy War Tank.
- Move CO War Tank 1 down, 3 right to destroy the weaken enemy War Tank.
- Move Anti Air south of bomber(4 right,1up)
- Move your non-CO War Tank to south of Anti Air(1 right,2 up)
- Move your bomber 2 spaces up and attack the enemy War Tank.
- Move Anti-Tank north of Anti Air (2 up)
- Use your fighter to attack left side of enemy fighter (1left, 6 right, 2 right)
- Build a Bomber on northwestern airport.

Turn 3
Southwestern side
- Use both infantry to capture any nearby cities or factories.
- Build a Bomber on southwestern airport

Northwestern side
- Move Bomber 2 squares south of nearby nest (3 right, 4 up)
- Move CO-War Tank to attack enemy Missle (3 up).
- Move Rocket to spot that was last position by Co-Tank (1 right, 2up)
- Move one of infantry to capture Airport and other city south of missle unit.
- Build a Bomber on northwestern airport.

Northeastern side
- Move fighter 1 left.
- Move Anti Tank below fighter (2 up, 2 right)
- Use Anti Air to attack right side of fighter (1 right, 4 up).
- Use Bomber to attack the western nest (4 up, 2 up).
- Move the non-CO War Tank to same spot the bomber was (4 up).

Southeastern side
- Move both injuryed infantry 2 left.

Turn 4
- For all infantries that capturing cities or factories right now, select them to finish the job.
- Move 2 injuryed infantry on southereastern 2 spaces to left.
- Use Bomber that is 2 spaces down from nest on Northwestern side, attack nearby nest.
- Use southwestern bomber to attack Mid Tank (7 up).
- Use northwestern bomber to attack left side of Mid Tank (6 right, 1 up).
- Use rocket to attack nearby tank.
- Move Co War Tank on top side of fighter (2 right, 2 up).
- Move fighter south of enemy tank (1 down, 2 right)
- Move Anti Tank to right side of CO-War Tank (1 right, 2 up).
- Move Anti Air to left side enemy helicopter. Afterwards, kill it in one shot.
- Move the Non-Co War Tank to attack nearby nest (1 left, 3 up)
- Use the Northeastern Bomber to destroy the western nest.

Turn 5
- Move Northeastern Bomber south of Anti Air unit (2 down, 5 right).
- Use Anti Air to destroy Duster.
- Use Anti Tank to attack the center nest.
- Use CO- War Tank to destroy the center nest.
- Use the other War Tank to destroy the western nest.
- Use the Northwestern Bomber to destroy the 4th nest cannon.
- Use the bomber to left side of enemy tank, move it to last nest. Attack it.
- Use the last bomber, attack the enemy tank.
- Use rocket unit, attack the enemy rocket unit.
- Move both 2 injured infantry units 3 spaces to right.

Turn 6
- Use Anti Air, attack the seaplane to juice up your power score.
- Use any full heath bomber to attack any nearby units to juice up your power score.
- Use a healthy unit to attack the final nest.

[sparklecopy]

I beat the last stage,C26 Sunrise, again in 6 turns. My total score is 410(133 speed, 150 power and Tech 127) for that stage. I think it's impossible to get perfect score. Come on, six turns with 133 speed. I will retry using the same strategy for that stage. If it work most of time, I provide a step by step strategy on how to beat that stage.



Edit- I hope I didn't make too many mistakes typing it. To much steps to follow through.

C26 Sunrise - Score Around 400's, 6 days


Turn 1
Northwestern side
- Pick the infantry that is position to the left of War Tank. Move 2 spaces to right to capture vacant factory.
- Choose the other infantry and start capturing that ComT(1 down, 2 right).
- Move War Tank 2 up, 2 right.
- Move Rocket to nearby airport(4 right).
- Move Anti Air 5 right,1 down.

Southwestern side
- Move both infantries to capture both ComT and Airport.
- Move Fighter 6 up, 3up.
- Move missle 3 left.
- Move tank 1 left.
(Why move those two units to left? On all odd turns, the nest launches an attack that is similar to silo on western side, but it deals 5 damage instead.
This attack will always target units with highest cost. Both of these units arn't very useful for this maps, so use them as shields to protect your units.

Southeastern side
- Move War Tank 3 up.
- Move Anti-Tank 1left,3 up.
- Move infantry that is position south of Bomber 2 right,1 up.
- Move the other infantry to capture airbase (2 right, 1 up).
- Move bomber 7 up.

Turn 2
- Use all infantry to capture all the bases.
- Use Rocket to attack enemy War Tank.
- Move CO War Tank 1 down, 3 right to destroy the weaken enemy War Tank.
- Move Anti Air south of bomber(4 right,1up)
- Move your non-CO War Tank to south of Anti Air(1 right,2 up)
- Move your bomber 2 spaces up and attack the enemy War Tank.
- Move Anti-Tank north of Anti Air (2 up)
- Use your fighter to attack left side of enemy fighter (1left, 6 right, 2 right)
- Build a Bomber on northwestern airport.

Turn 3
Southwestern side
- Use both infantry to capture any nearby cities or factories.
- Build a Bomber on southwestern airport

Northwestern side
- Move Bomber 2 squares south of nearby nest (3 right, 4 up)
- Move CO-War Tank to attack enemy Missle (3 up).
- Move Rocket to spot that was last position by Co-Tank (1 right, 2up)
- Move one of infantry to capture Airport and other city south of missle unit.
- Build a Bomber on northwestern airport.

Northeastern side
- Move fighter 1 left.
- Move Anti Tank below fighter (2 up, 2 right)
- Use Anti Air to attack right side of fighter (1 right, 4 up).
- Use Bomber to attack the western nest (4 up, 2 up).
- Move the non-CO War Tank to same spot the bomber was (4 up).

Southeastern side
- Move both injuryed infantry 2 left.

Turn 4
- For all infantries that capturing cities or factories right now, select them to finish the job.
- Move 2 injuryed infantry on southereastern 2 spaces to left.
- Use Bomber that is 2 spaces down from nest on Northwestern side, attack nearby nest.
- Use southwestern bomber to attack Mid Tank (7 up).
- Use northwestern bomber to attack left side of Mid Tank (6 right, 1 up).
- Use rocket to attack nearby tank.
- Move Co War Tank on top side of fighter (2 right, 2 up).
- Move fighter south of enemy tank (1 down, 2 right)
- Move Anti Tank to right side of CO-War Tank (1 right, 2 up).
- Move Anti Air to left side enemy helicopter. Afterwards, kill it in one shot.
- Move the Non-Co War Tank to attack nearby nest (1 left, 3 up)
- Use the Northeastern Bomber to destroy the western nest.

Turn 5
- Move Northeastern Bomber south of Anti Air unit (2 down, 5 right).
- Use Anti Air to destroy Duster.
- Use Anti Tank to attack the center nest.
- Use CO- War Tank to destroy the center nest.
- Use the other War Tank to destroy the western nest.
- Use the Northwestern Bomber to destroy the 4th nest cannon.
- Use the bomber to left side of enemy tank, move it to last nest. Attack it.
- Use the last bomber, attack the enemy tank.
- Use rocket unit, attack the enemy rocket unit.
- Move both 2 injured infantry units 3 spaces to right.

Turn 6
- Use Anti Air, attack the seaplane to juice up your power score.
- Use any full heath bomber to attack any nearby units to juice up your power score.
- Use a healthy unit to attack the final nest.
thanks. Your faq has some mistakes but I was able to improvise and beat it in 7 days. I didn't even know there was a CO power thing. This game's campaign was really weird cause you didn't need the CO power thing until the very end of the game.

[supraazn]

WTF! ... what kind of gay shit is this.
I was just playing on wifi ransom match for the 4th time.
This time i managed to get pretty far into the battle without the other guy DCing on me.
But then when 30 days hit "Maximum number of days has reached, the match is over"
Are you fucking kidding me?
Why on god's green earth is there a days limit on a AW game.
Unless im fighting against a really bad noob player, i expect it to take awhile to finally win or lose.
I know theres probably no limits for Friend battle but there shouldnt be one for random matches either.
Right when the battle was getting good, i had 3 seaplanes out on the great lake map (no airports in map) and i was sure i was gonna get victory soon.
But there that goes.

Ohh and the real kicker, when the game ended ..... it said i lost!
I was doing better in the game IMO, but i still lost.
Safe to say im not playing random matches again, when i can't even finish the fucking thing.

[jah2004]

I've never done the wifi thing before. Where do I find my friend code at?

[jah2004]

Ha nevermind. I found it right after I posted that. It never occurred to me to look on the top screen. Awesome game though!

[suko_32]

Beat t-24 with 3 units :)

[fatbeer]

Anyone here know a good emulator for this game?

I want to upload better quality videos of this game on youtube then my web cam. The ones I tried are either too slow or don't work at all.

[soccerstud652]

Finally beat Dual Strike so I craked open DoR.

Here is my friend code...I added everyone on the list to my game cart, so feel free to challenege me to a game whenever!

472571-516652 - soccerstud652 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=57568)

[DarkKnightCecil]

FInally beat C14, don't know what I did so different but it was a TON easier (I think it's because I approached from both the east island and the main land).


I'm having a bit of trouble with C17 but I have a new strategy that hopefully works.

[Foo228]

lol...game's diaglouge is great

I'm not too far, but if you don't want to be spoiled click elsewhere boy meets girl, boy gives girl flower, boy names girl...haha

[El Gray]

Ok, my code is 244938-648181. Would love to battle some friendly CAGs. Anyone on this afternoon?

[El Gray]

I added everyone listed in the OP of this thread. Please give a shout-out if you add me back. Thanks!

[KhaosX]

CAG tournament anyone?

[cdubthebabyshooter]

I'm new to CAG. Would love to battle some of you or participate in a tournament. Here is my AW friend code:

C-Dub
262117-217945

I'm adding you guys.

[SL4IN]

bought this today and I'm instantly hooked. my FC is in my sig.

[sayHey]

got to the final battle in AWDS.. can't wait to start the second one.. but i have to finish off van bolt!

[Stuttering Billy]

[quote=soccerstud652;3899533]Finally beat Dual Strike so I craked open DoR./quote]

So fair (Im on lvl 20) I think Dual Strike was harder then DoR. It might be that after playing every advance wars game I have finally learned good tactics though...

[io]

Well, I'm about to go on a cross-country flight and I just unwrapped AW and charged up my dead DS so I'm set.

Only problem is I'm stuck in a middle seat (got the ticket 3 weeks ago too - only middles available then and now there are NO free seats!). I didn't realize at the time that the fucking Super Bowl was the day before my flight and in Phoenix :bomb:. I'm flying through Phoenix so it is the long-ass Phoenix-DC flight that I'm stuck in the middle. Dammit - that will probably make it akward and uncomfortable to play the DS. I guess I'll just watch whatever movie it is and hold my breath during that part. Then I'll play when I get to the hotel tomorrow night ;). Anyway, FC coming as soon as I hook it up.

[soccerstud652]

[quote=soccerstud652;3899533]Finally beat Dual Strike so I craked open DoR./quote]

So fair (Im on lvl 20) I think Dual Strike was harder then DoR. It might be that after playing every advance wars game I have finally learned good tactics though...

I think Dual Strike was much much harder in general so far...I am on mission 14 or so on DoR so I still have a bit to go.

The bottom line though, GS justified giving this game a full point lower score because of its "intense hardness" yet I feel if you have brains in your head and actually know how to play an AW game (I have played the ever loving crap out of 1 +2, and spent alot of time on DS), then it is a challening but satisfying game. Its quite simple, always move your units in a pack with a tank or mech in front, followed by an artillery or rockets, surrounded with anti air or more tanks. I have yet to throw my DS in frustration.

Also, I added the last 2 friend codes to the front page!

[ratzombie]

I added you soccerstud, couldn't PM you since your inbox is full.

My code is on the OP, thanks.

[JEKKI]

argh! stuck on C14!! I have already given up 3 times...

and each time it's coz I make a mistake at the beginning by losing my submarine before it can cause damage!!!

anyway, I'm still too scared to try Wi Fi... reading a lot of boards it seems that everybody has mad skillz at this game...

everybody but me!!!

[El Gray]

Don't fear the Reaper... or the Wifi! I don't think I'm super-awesome, either, but I'm really excited to play some folks online. I'll battle with you sometime, Jekki. Post up your FC. :)

[DarkKnightCecil]

Jekki, the best plan is to first take out his battleship than take out his carrier with your submarine. It will make it TONS easier. Make sure you buy a battleship or two. When you have a pretty high amount of units ready to attack on both sides ( by the mountains out of the rocket's ranger and by the three cities) use bombers to take out the rocket after destroying the meterorite and lead a full out attack with a bicycle ready to capture their HQ.

If you have an adequte amount of units before leading your strike, you'll fail. Just lead a defensive strategy until a meteor is destroyed (I suggest the right one) and the rocket is destroyed.

[JEKKI]

thanx for that advice man, it's something I learn from yet another loss on that stage!!

I was playing for like over an hour last nite... sitting on my bed...

afterwards my back was hurting and in the morning I was late for work!!!

and my back was still hurting!!

but yah... gotta try again.

[SL4IN]

I'm on C10 and I've just been going back and redoing my earlier missions to get S rankings in them using different strategies. It's extremely fun and I'm very impressed with how much I'm liking the game considering I didn't care for the other advance wars games.

[sayHey]

Finished the AW : Dual Strike campaign with an "S" ranking just now..

I really enjoyed this game.

I'll wait to see if I win the contest before I go out and pick up AW : Days of Ruin

[SL4IN]

I can't believe I got an S ranking on Ca10 after I lost nearly half my units and it took 17 days.

[spiwak]

ARGH I've been AWOL for like 3 weeks, haven't been keeping up at all. This and Professor Layton and Apollo Justice coming out so close together....

[snakelda]

I can't believe I got an S ranking on Ca10 after I lost nearly half my units and it took 17 days.lol,it took me 89 days to beat I think it was level 20.Took fucken forever!Really really good game!

[io]

I don't know, it seems this is harder than Dual Strike. But maybe I just forgot how to play ;). I'm barely scraping by in some of these missions though... Love the game of course though. I'll sink a few hours into it tonight before bed and then ALL DAY tomorrow while flying home. I'm actually looking forward to my flights because of that! I mean, hell, I get paid to play Advance Wars when I'm flying for work - awesome!

[Ctl-Alt-l33t]

I don't know, it seems this is harder than Dual Strike. But maybe I just forgot how to play ;). I'm barely scraping by in some of these missions though... Love the game of course though. I'll sink a few hours into it tonight before bed and then ALL DAY tomorrow while flying home. I'm actually looking forward to my flights because of that! I mean, hell, I get paid to play Advance Wars when I'm flying for work - awesome!

Campaign missions are a breeze so far (I'm on 17 I think)...had trouble with one of them but I beat it after a few tries.

The TRAINING MISSIONS...on the other hand....good god...

I've played every post-NES AW game and I've never had this much trouble. Good lord, the regular metro training map makes my blood boil

[geigerm]

Finally got my hands on this yesterday--spent some birthday money at the CC 20% off sale--and I'll be cracking it open within the next day or two. Can't wait--AW: DS is easily my favorite DS game so far, so I've got high hopes. And with the online thing, I now look forward to trying to kick some of your asses in the very near future. :lol:

[halfbent]

Just picked it up this morning along with my Wii. I'll throw my friend code up shortly, always love a good mp game of Advance Wars!

[ratzombie]

Just picked it up this morning along with my Wii. I'll throw my friend code up shortly, always love a good mp game of Advance Wars!

You're in for a good gaming time.

[cletus]

Is this game worth $30 or should I wait for a price drop? I know I can count on you cheapasses for a straight answer.

[jah2004]

Yes it is worth $30. Worth every penny. The best DS game I have bought yet.

[fatbeer]

Is this game worth $30 or should I wait for a price drop? I know I can count on you cheapasses for a straight answer.

It all depends on what kind of experience your going. Single player or multi player? If your going just for single player experience, I say skip it. There isn't much content in single player missions- 26 story mission, no shops, no hard mode, limited characters, few unlockable content, no war room and trial maps are kinda boring without some story driven plot. It would be interesting if they allow you to versus characters in previous advance wars series. There are very few incentives to make you push for those S Ranks beside lame medal


As for the gameplay wise, it more robust then before with the balance of CO(Commanding Officers) and units. The addition of new line of unit adds a strategic balance better, thus making the online experience much better. Creating your own maps and sharing them is neat idea. Their are still some fault with online experience. Some CO like Calderon and Tabitha are really broken when your facing experience players. And some maps either drag too long for large maps or too short for time matches. Overall, it's solid online experience, but don't expect some xbox live with lame as friends code.

[laaj]

Any of you think cheaters will ruin multi-player like Metroid Prime Hunters?

[JEKKI]

whoooo~!!!! finally beat C14 last nite!!!

it took me damn near 2 hours!! ~33 days...

I wanna hop onto wifi soon. maybe tonite.

[dmunkee]

Finally got around to picking this up thanks to the CC deal last week. I haven't got to mess around with it too much, but it's awesome so far. I'll get around to putting up my friend code sometime this week.

[caleb410]

i think this is the best ds game ever made. has anybody seen the last lvl besides me its crazy hard but if you beat it you get a cool after story ( and the crazy strong Caulder)

[SNAKE EYES EX]

So far (12 main missions in) this is my least favorite Advance Wars game, but I still love it.

The story is very meh to me. I've started skipping every cutscene. I'm not a huge fan of the muted color palette either, but I can live with it. The new units are fantastic and the challenge feels a bit ramped up, which I enjoy.

[FurryCurry]

So far (12 main missions in) this is my least favorite Advance Wars game, but I still love it.

The story is very meh to me. I've started skipping every cutscene. I'm not a huge fan of the muted color palette either, but I can live with it. The new units are fantastic and the challenge feels a bit ramped up, which I enjoy.

I haven't played an AW game since the first on GBA and the game seems easier to me. I get A ranks usually with the occasional S and about the most difficult thing to deal with in the game is winning in a decent amount of time. However, I'm on the 22 mission I think and I'm getting fatigue just playing it. Not that it's hard, just that it's grueling.

Still, totally worth all the money I spent on it. Even if I got it at full price I wouldn't have been disappointed.

[JEKKI]

whaaaaa~~~ any tips for C20???

I spent 41 days on it last nite... finally gave up coz enemy began to break thru my stalemate...

[snakelda]

That's usually the way I win.The opponent rushes in and I massacre their units and then I rush in.I guess I play on the defensive.

[JEKKI]

I'm realizing defensive is the way to go rite now...

like I got a Fighter jet and a missile jus chilling there...

and u see all the air units being afraid to attack my fighter coz they dont wanna die!!

[DarkKnightCecil]

I don't remember entirely how I won but I remember that you need to LOAD the center area with units. Those 4 cities are pretty much your ticket to victory. Load the area with War Tanks, AA, Missles, etc.

Once you've taken out the majority of his airforce (his strongpoint) start charging towards his HQ. I won by domination but I could have done a HQ Capture easily. Also, put ALL units in the center area before charging. only put units on the side if an enemy is trying to sneak by.

Also, I would advise against putting out ANY air units until Waylon's air force is taken completely (or atleast almost completely) out. Once it is, just make bombers and fighters when you charge to his base (use bombers to weaken or destroy units for ground units and use fighters to defend bombers against any air units that Waylon builds).

Also, try to capture either Waylon's airport or factory to help also.

[Inf^Shini]

Does anyone still play this?

I picked it up about two weeks ago and have been playing it non-stop.

I'm lookin' to play some multiplayer with any of you guys if you won't disconnect on me ;)

I'm always getting the upper hand and everyone keeps disconnecting on me, it gets pretty annoying :/

The ONE thing I love is that you can close the DS now without it disconnecting :D

Only C Missions I can't get S ranks on are C26 and C8 (I dominate yet continually get an A) :(

[soccerstud652]

I still play.

[supraazn]

i havent touched it since i beat it months ago.
I was meaning to go back and beat all the T mission i skipped because they were a bitch ... but i probably wont.

and for online ... its been awhile so i'm rusty and its quite a change from cod4 so i think im good.

[Wolfpup]

I've got some store credit, and I'm wondering if I should pick this up, given:

-I spent months on Advance Wars 1
-I started Advance Wars 2 and gave up after just a few battles (it STARTS out harder than AW1 ENDs-WAY too hard for me).
-I loved Advance Wars: DS most out of the whole series. Loved the campaign, but the individual maps you can play outside the campaign got way too hard for me after about half a dozen.
-Field Commander-gave up halfway through. Harder than AW 1 and DS (not to mention it's not nearly as good).

How's the difficulty on this one? Think I might enjoy it? I like the art styles in the first three, although I think relaunching it is a neat idea since there's not much more they can do with the story in the first AW universe.

[Inf^Shini]

Days Of Ruin's Campaign is harder than the normal campaign for AWDS, but it lacks a hard campaign after that.

There are trial maps that are unlocked as you go through the chapters, and other trials map after clearing the initial trial maps. There is also a free-battle option to play other pre-designed maps, and you can also connect to wi-fi to play others as well as download player-created maps and the ability to upload your own (limited to one, though :/)

I enjoyed the animation for DoR, and the difficulty seems to be a roller-coaster until you start getting near the end, then it begins to build up. The last mission was ridiculous, but according to my bro, nothing tops Crystal Calamity on Hard in Dual Strike.

I would recommend the game, I've already logged in about 60 hours and still have a couple trial maps to complete, wi-fi is decent but people continually disconnect on you if you have the upper hand, and especially if you're going to deliver the final blow.

[Wolfpup]

Hmm...how do you think the difficulty compares to Advance Wars one or two?

I've never played the hard mode in AW:DS, and I'm quite confident I'd get creamed in two seconds :D

[SL4IN]

I'm still playing my copy, so if you add me to your game, shoot me a pm or something of the other and I'll add you as well.

[botticus]

So I'm really not digging this as much as I thought I would. I played the first DS game back when I got my first DS and while I don't know that I loved it, I didn't have any problem finishing it. I don't know if I'll have the drive to do that with this one, it's just not really clicking with me.

Seems like Dual Strike kinda got me back into the strategy genre, but after playing an abundance of SRPGs since then, I just find a lot of the actual strategy missing from TBS/RTS. The capability to build units tends to turn it into either a battle of attrition or a base rush.

We'll see if my opinions change as I put a bit more time into it (I'm on C9), but judging by how battles currently go when I have a factory and they don't, I'm not looking forward to constant factory vs. factory fights.

[Wolfpup]

That's the thing with strategy games-there's so much personal preference that's probably hard to even nail down!

Personally I *hated* the second one because it was WAAAAY too hard for me, but I've loved the two DS ones. I guess I don't like Days of Ruin as well, but it's close (and actually I'm enjoying the story, though I liked the story in Dual Strike too).

I've been playing through all the training maps as they open up, so it's been a long time since I've actually advanced the main plot! I think the main game is actually fairly short if not for all the training maps (I guess they're sort of like the maps you could play outside the main game in the previous one).

[io]

I haven't had too much trouble with this game - until the last mission that is. At least I think it is the last (big cannon things that wipe you out while the enemy produces endless units without needing a factory). I got there a long time ago and tried it a few times but since then I've just been trying to clear all the training maps. I have nearly the whole grid filled out now. I need to get back and finish that last story mission though. But there are some pretty overwhelming odds. Of course, I have the penny strat guide from Best Buy but I wanted to win it without using that at all. If I can't make it after another attempt, though, I might have to browse through that thing. I get the feeling there is some cheap trick you use to make it through that mission.

[El Gray]

That last mission is a beyotch, IO. I was stuck there for about a month, myself. Finally had to read the first 3-4 days of a walkthrough to get me off on the right foot, and I beat it last weekend. The basic strategy is to take out the left and right cannons ASAP, because once the enemies start to entrench/multiply, it's VERY hard to get back over to that rightmost cannon.

Good luck!

I'm still a fan of the game, so if anyone in here wants an online battle, give a shout, and we'll do it to it.