Conference watch: Nintendo JPN Fall 2007 Conference (DS DEMO CHANNEL, SONIC IN SMASH)

[evilmax17]

Just started, live-blogging here:

http://gemaga.sbcr.jp/

(Babelfish it)

Notable announcements:
Fire Emblem DS
Mario Baseball Wii
7,800,000 VC downloads (JPN? Worldwide?)
Pokemon Ranch: Wii Ware, can upload pokemon from DS to be raised on the Wii.
Dr. Mario: Wii Ware
Wii Ware launches in Japan in March 2008
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Little King and the Promise Country (online play?): Wii Ware
DS DEMO DOWNLOAD CHANNEL
Wii "recommendation" channel: vote on games, and search by user reviews
Wii Fit launching in Japan on December 1st, for 8800 yen.
Mario Kart Wii: Spring 2008 - has motorcycles - steering wheel attachment packed in
Sonic in Super Smash Brothers Brawl
SSBB delayed to 1/24/2008 in Japan
Monster Hunter 3 Wii
SSBB online co-op
FF:CC Wii Ware - 1500 points
Hudson Wii Ware: Joysound / Karaoke / Spring 2008
Hudson Wii Ware: Star Soldier R / SHT / Spring 2008
Hudson Wii Ware: Bomberman / ACT / Spring 2008

[evilmax17]

Some good updates.

[evilmax17]

DS DEMO DOWNLOAD CHANNEL

Come on guys, start getting excited.

[Kaijufan]

Finally a DS Demo channel.

[dmaul1114]

Yep, I've been dying for them to put out the DS Demo Download station.

Hate having to drag my DS to the store, and half the time the damn thing isn't turned on/not working anyway. :bomb:

[evilmax17]

Sonic In Smash!

[dallow]

Smash is fucking delayed.....

Please just Japan...

[evilmax17]

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/119386145920071010072811.jpg

[Kaijufan]

Hopefully Brawl wont be delayed in the US.

[mykevermin]

7,800,000 VC downloads (JPN? Worldwide?)

With around 11 million Wii systems out there, many not using internet connections, I have to believe that's worldwide.

That is also a...I believe the scientific term is "metric fuckload"...of money for Nintendo.

DO YOU SEE SONY? DO YOU SEE NOW WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN 12 DAMN PSX GAMES AVAILABLE ON THE PS3????

DS demo channel sounds great. I hope I don't need a cable to connect the two consoles.

[dallow]

English blog:

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826130p1.html

[Kaijufan]

With around 11 million Wii systems out there, many not using internet connections, I have to believe that's worldwide.

That is also a...I believe the scientific term is "metric fuckload"...of money for Nintendo.

DO YOU SEE SONY? DO YOU SEE NOW WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN 12 DAMN PSX GAMES AVAILABLE ON THE PS3????

DS demo channel sounds great. I hope I don't need a cable to connect the two consoles.
The DS can connect to the Wii without wires in Pokemon Battle Revolution.

[evilmax17]

http://i22.tinypic.com/287d6cm.jpg

[Kaijufan]

Thanks for the english blog link Dallow.

[dallow]

Bikes in Mario Kart?
Monster Hunter 3 for Wii? (PS3 stab in the back by capcom)

DAMN!!!!

[crystalklear64]

Monster Hunter 3 and Sonic= sweet.

[Pancake Rabbit]

Fer realz? Sonic? SSBB is gonna be nuts.

[mykevermin]

The DS can connect to the Wii without wires in Pokemon Battle Revolution.

Wonderful.

[dallow]

I hope PS3 version of MH3 isn't cancelled...
I want next gen visuals for that game!

[zerowing]

Nintendo starts caring about gamers again: October 10th

[Dr Mario Kart]

Dooooom

[Strell]

The fuck is going on?

What the fuck did I eat for dinner...

Porkchops?

Oh shit. I could be making up the entire universe with nothing but my mind right now.

[dallow]

The fuck is going on?

What the fuck did I eat for dinner...

Porkchops?

Oh shit. I could be making up the entire universe with nothing but my mind right now.http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/Tristam222/jesus_camp_gif.gif

[Strell]

Monster Hunter...

Wtf is this shit?

Those 'chops musta been bad.

[Rig]

Sonic...fucking crazy.

Please not let it be delayed over here!

[dallow]

I bet tonight's update for Smash is Sonic.

[jer7583]

I HATE monster hunter but this makes this generation a lock for Nintendo if Monster Hunter 3 is only on Wii. That series even got people to buy PSPs in japan! They go bizonkers over that garbage!

Excited about the DS download stuff and sonic in brawl isn't bad. He will make for a fun character, as long as it's JUST him and not all those other awful characters from the sonic universe.

BRING ON MEGA MAN

[dallow]

Few times I agree with Jer.
In fact, I came just to post that.

Time for Mega Man, and Pac Man.

[Kaijufan]

I would much rather see Leon S Kennedy instead of Mega Man, but Leon might be too much like Snake to be included.
Nintendo also needs a Square Enix character, either Chrono or Sora.

[whoknows]

I'm so happy about Sonic being in Brawl.

Howbout you Strell? :D

[Zen Davis]

14:37: For the Wii Fit presentation, Miyamoto calls out talent Shinji Morisue and model Sayo Aizawa. Check out Aizawa's Be Happy blog (http://aizawa-sayo.ameblo.jp/) while waiting for more updates.

14:34: Miyamoto jokes, "I've become a bit slim, haven't I? It's because I'm enjoying developing Wii Fit."

14:30: Iwata's part of the presentation comes to a close. He switches over to Shigeru Miyamoto for a presentation about the Wii.

14:30: Monster Hunter 3 will be released for the Wii!

This is quite big because the game was originally announced for the PS3. It's also one of Japan's biggest series, with the past two PSP games having both sold over a million units.

14:24: Smash Bros. has been delayed in Japan until January 24, 2008.

Nintendo shows a new trailer. Sonic is going to be a playable character! The trailer shows him transforming into Super Sonic.

The game will include online fights. In addition, it will have online cooperative play of some form.

14:22: Mario Kart Wii will include a steering wheel controller. The game will also include motorcycles! A release is set for Spring 2008.

14:20: Wii Fit will be released on 12/1. It will cost 8,800 yen.

14:10: Nintendo will put more emphasis on the Wii Vote channel in the future. You'll be able to put rankings for games that you've played and search for games that fit your liking.

Nintendo will also begin a service similar to the DS Station retail service. You'll be able to download demos from your home.

14:08: The Wii Ware service will get more than just mini games and puzzle games. Square Enix will release Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for the service. It will be be subtitled The Young King and the Promised Land and will be exclusively available for Wii Ware. In the game, you build your own country. Service will begin in March (in Japan).

14:06: Nintendo has announced Pokemon Bokujou, which translates to the English Pokemon Farm. With this Wii Ware title, you can transfer your Pokemon from Pearl and Diamond to the Wii, then raise them in a farm-like environment.

Other Wii Ware software shown includes Star Soldier R, Mojipittan Wii (this is a Bandai Namco word puzzle game that's a big hit on the PSP and DS) and Doctor Mario.

14:05: Software for Wii Ware will be released at a low price. There will be no problems with stock, so there will be no missed opportunities for sales. The competition of ideas will be important.

14:04: Virtual Console has reached 7.8 million downloads. Next, Nintendo will introduce Wii Ware, which consists of new game downloads.

14:00: From here on, Nintendo is hoping to increase Wii internet usage. They will open up a counceling center for connecting to the net from the Wii. They will offer support for setting up the internet at homes, and will also offer equipment.

13:57: Following the release of the DS and the Wii, the next step is to continue increasing the gamer population.

13:56: For each household, the DS has 3.0 users, the Wii has 3.5 users. DS has a 53% female user base. Wii has a 51% female user base.

13:54: In 2005, the DS had three million owners with a userbase similar to the GBA. In 2007, it's expanded to 18 million owners, with a wide range going from adults to children.

13:53: Nintendo apparently ran a survey of 3000 people in Tokyo and Osaka. In 2005, the GBA had a large presence with many teenage owners.

13:50: "In Japan, Nintendo has 50% of the DS software market this year. From here on out, the share should shift to other software markers."

13:46: "The first step was the DS. As the second step, we offered the Wii."

13:46: "The Wii is being accepted even overseas by a previously unheard of wide ranging audience."

13:45: Nintendo prez Satoru Iwata takes the stage and begins his usual talk about the game market place. "Expanding the Gamer Population is our Basic Strategy"

13:44: The MC takes the stage. It's none other than Miho Nakai. I guess she's pretty hot, if you're into 40-year-olds.

13:40: Next, Wii trailer clips. Mario Kart Wii, Famicom Wars Wii, Super Mario Stadium Baseball, Wii Music and other games. Wait... one of those is new...

13:37: First, quick trailer clips of DS games set for the end of the year. Each title gets five seconds. Footage of Fire Emblem DS and Dragon Quest IX shown.

Silly Ge-maga... we all know DQIX isn't due out until some time in 2008.

13:35: The conference begins

[Strell]

I'm so happy about Sonic being in Brawl.

Howbout you Strell? :D

I'm going to enjoy beating the shit out of him, but I'm still not convinced what I am seeing right now is actually real.

Monster Hunter. Who in the fuck wants that shit?

I tried that shit on PSP.

I started the game, grabbed a bigass sword, felt awesome, all this taking some 20 minutes, and then a fucking....raptor or some shit killed me.

I think I'm using the game to level a table right now.

A table immersed in the bowels of hell.

[zerowing]

I bet tonight's update for Smash is Sonic.
I bet not

[Rusty Ghia]

DO YOU SEE SONY? DO YOU SEE NOW WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN 12 DAMN PSX GAMES AVAILABLE ON THE PS3????

http://www.imcdb.org/images/005/217.jpg

Anyone else get a Walter Sobchak vibe from mykevermin in that post?

[Zen Davis]

14:59: A ski jumping mini game presentation. Then, everyone tries out yoga.

14:46: Morisue has a BMI of 26.68. Aizawa is 18.84 -- she is a model, after all! Miyamoto is serving as health commentator as the balance board is used on stage for a variety of health tests.

14:41: The Wii Fit presentation has started. Uh-oh! The guy who's blogging at Ge-maga says that it's going to be difficult to do live commentary on this part!

[Dr Mario Kart]

Imagine if Sonic is good. Then everyone will be playing him too D:

Even I'll probably have to play him

[dallow]

I bet notWatch.

In the same way Konami showed off Snake in Smash early, and the next day Snake's moves were the update.

[whoknows]

Sonic is reason enough for me to get a Wii and Brawl.

I just have to decide if I feel like it when the time comes closer.

[Kaijufan]

They need to stop doing yoga.

[Strell]

Is this shit real?

I don't think this shit is real.

Fuck you guys for fucking with me.

I'm going to go play Metroid, and when I get back, this shit had better not be here.

[Zen Davis]

15:03: They're still doing yoga. I'm going to correct my spelling.

[whoknows]

Is this shit real?

I don't think this shit is real.

Fuck you guys for fucking with me.

I'm going to go play Metroid, and when I get back, this shit had better not be here.
I know what you mean.

Sonic in Brawl is just too good to believe. I'm having a hard time believing it myself because it's such good news.

[evilmax17]

MH3:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x247/linkup90/MH3wii.jpg

[dallow]

All I need is HDD functionality, and I'll be a happy camper.
Man, not even that, just allow me to use a 4gig flash drive.

[Orga]

What's with all the negativity toward Monster Hunter? MH3 will definitely get me to buy a Wii if it's an exclusive. :)

[evilmax17]

FF:CC Wii Ware game:

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/littleking/

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/flash/banner/03.jpg

Looks like it will be 1,500 Wii points. There's a screenshot on the website, looks like FF:CC for the cube.

http://i24.tinypic.com/15yvvys.jpg

[Zen Davis]

FF:CC Wii Ware game:

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/littleking/

Looks like it'll be 1500 Wii points in Japan.

[Kaijufan]

FF:CC Wii Ware game:

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/littleking/
I guess this confirms the conference is real.
If you click on the link on the lower left hand part of that site one of the things it says is 1500 Wii [something in japanese]. Is that the price in Wii points?

[Zen Davis]

15:10: Now they're all hoola-hooping!

[EXStrike]

Holy fucking shit. MH3 for Wii? Sonic in Brawl?! Online Co-op?!!?

Jaw, meet floor.

[Kaijufan]

FF:CC Wii Ware game:

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/littleking/

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/flash/banner/03.jpg

Looks like it will be 1,500 Wii points. There's a screenshot on the website, looks like FF:CC for the cube.

http://i24.tinypic.com/15yvvys.jpg
With visuals like that the Wii is going to need some kind of external storage.

[evilmax17]

http://www.hudson.co.jp/corp/news/bn2007/071010.pdf (http://www.hudson.co.jp/corp/news/bn2007/071010.pdf)
hudson soft's Wiiware titles revealed
Joysound / Karaoke / Spring 2008
Star Soldier R / SHT / Spring 2008
Bomberman / ACT / Spring 2008

[Zen Davis]

This sounds like everyone was fucking in on it! Suave!

[evilmax17]

Conference over.

Supposedly there's a NA conference tomorrow/today.

[Kaijufan]

Hopefully we'll get more announcements tomorrow and confirmation of SSBB's US release date.

[Zen Davis]

I'd prefer Viewtiful Joe over Megaman.

[Kaijufan]

Though I'm not a big Viewtiful Joe fan, he would be a perfect fit in Brawl.

[evilmax17]

Star Soldier R pics?

http://i23.tinypic.com/vie8mx.jpg

[Kirin Lemon]

Woweeping up with the Japanese blog until now. This is some pretty amazing stuff here, and is really going to help cement Nintendo's lead in Japan.

[EXStrike]

.....

I'm so glad I stayed up doing a take-home final.

So glad.

[CouRageouS]

Though I'm not a big Viewtiful Joe fan, he would be a perfect fit in Brawl.
Yup after playing Red Hot Rumble I can totally see him fit in.

And IIRC, with the Mario Kart bike announcement, didn't Toad or someone have a pseudo-tricycle/bike thing on the DS? I'm too lazy to look.

[evilmax17]

More FF:CC Wii Ware pics, from Famitsu:

http://www.santasw.com/tmp/e0jk2_thumb.jpg (http://www.santasw.com/tmp/e0jk2.jpg)
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/5jc4_thumb.jpg (http://www.santasw.com/tmp/5jc4.jpg)
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/6$$$_thumb.jpg (http://www.santasw.com/tmp/6$$$.jpg)
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/gea6_thumb.jpg (http://www.santasw.com/tmp/gea6.jpg)
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/20n58_thumb.jpg (http://www.santasw.com/tmp/20n58.jpg)

[drfunk85]

Wow, some big news tonight.

Wii fit at 8800 yen, that's roughly $75. Not too bad if the price is the same over here.

[Lan_Zer0]

MY HEAD ASPLODE.

Finally some evidence Nintendo hasn't completely lost touch with gaming.

EDIT: I would have been surprised if Sonic wasn't in Brawl, but Monster Hunter 3?!?! Holy shit.

[Strell]

Is this shit real?

I don't think this shit is real.

Fuck you guys for fucking with me.

I'm going to go play Metroid, and when I get back, this shit had better not be here.

Oh god dammit.

This shit is still here.

...

SONIC EVEN HAS CHEESY GUITAR MUSIC.

Awwww fuck.

Oh god he even goes Super Saiyain Vegeta Sonic.

[Strell]

I will admit this:

I totally have to give it up for including original Genesis sound effects.

That is something everyone can enjoy.

[FriskyTanuki]

Decent news, I guess. I'm still waiting on a release date for Kirby.

[Strell]

So I guess this means MH3 is coming to the PS2 and/or PSP, amirite?

[Friend of Sonic]

I really, really hope they use Sonic to his full advantage as far as recapturing the magic of yesteryear/nostalgia. I want his stage to be something old school, not out of a recent stage. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't cop out with Green Hill Zone although it wouldn't be too horrible if they did.

[Foladar]

Conference over.

Supposedly there's a NA conference tomorrow/today.
Hope so, the WiiWare games make me glad I have some points in my account, since I was wondering what I'd do with them. Definitely gonna add my leftover points I have since I'll use them sooner or later.

[yukine]

Fuck Sonic.

Great news though, way to go Nintendo.

[lilboo]

What the hell? You go to bed and when you wake up..crazy things happen!

This is some great news. Wow. Though Motorcycles in Mario Kart? Hmm. Well, I guess it's worth a shot, :lol:

FINALLY A DS DEMO CHANNEL :applause:

So what's the actual point of the Pokemon Farm? If it's just uploading your Pokemon onto TV..and feeding them carrots and shit..this better be free.

[Gameboy415]

So what's the actual point of the Pokemon Farm? If it's just uploading your Pokemon onto TV..and feeding them carrots and shit..this better be free.

This actually made me LOL :lol:

I'm hoping for a few Sonic stages in Brawl now. Green Hill Zone is a shoo-in, but something like Chemical Plant Zone or, dare I say it, HILLTOP ZONE could be incredible. (Hilltop Zone has the best music in any Sonic game EVER)

[lilboo]

This actually made me LOL :lol:

I'm hoping for a few Sonic stages in Brawl now. Green Hill Zone is a shoo-in, but something like Chemical Plant Zone or, dare I say it, HILLTOP ZONE could be incredible. (Hilltop Zone has the best music in any Sonic game EVER)

LOL, but I hate when they say things & don't give some details about it. I have Pearl, so this channel does interest me. However, if it costs points and it's only to put your Pokemon on your TV just to do Harvest Moon things to it..like groom, feed, play, etc..then.. feh. But potentially, this could be an awesome channel done right. Plus I wonder if it'll be DS graphics, OR if it'll use Pokemon Battle revolution graphics.. hmm.

I'm SURE there will be at least 1 Sonic stage in brawl. Most likely only 1, but still. Makes me wonder if other Sonic characters will at least make appearances in the backround, OR as some kind of interference in the stage? Maybe even some as assist trophies?

[soonersfan60]

SSBB no doubt will be delayed in the U.S. also. Nintendo will get a pass if they say it is to add online play or make it better as requested by gamers.

[munch]

Great news. I can't wait for the DS demo channel. That'll be great. There's also an update for the Wii today.

[botticus]

This is kinda mind-boggling. Is this the one instance of people dampening their expectations for a Nintendo conference, only to be blown away? Reading the GoNintendo post, I thought most of it was made up.

Fire Emblem DS
Mario Baseball Wii
Dr. Mario: Wii Ware
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Little King and the Promise Country (online play?): Wii Ware
DS DEMO DOWNLOAD CHANNEL
Wii "recommendation" channel: vote on games, and search by user reviews
Mario Kart Wii: Spring 2008 - has motorcycles - steering wheel attachment packed in
SSBB online co-op
Hudson Wii Ware: Star Soldier R / SHT / Spring 2008
Hudson Wii Ware: Bomberman / ACT / Spring 2008
All awesome shit.

[PenguinoMF]

Hopefully the DS download station comes out soon. Can't wait.

[mykevermin]

http://www.imcdb.org/images/005/217.jpg

Anyone else get a Walter Sobchak vibe from mykevermin in that post?

:applause:

Good form.

[Snake2715]

Wow some sweet news there.

Its funny to see Brawl retail used at like $40 or more at Gamestop still after all these years. Looking forward to a few things...

[CouRageouS]

So what's the actual point of the Pokemon Farm? If it's just uploading your Pokemon onto TV..and feeding them carrots and shit..this better be free.
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/10/pokemonfarm.jpg
Well no real info, except it looks like shit. N64 Pokemon models look nicer. At least we know it uses your Mii. And a clock.

[Strell]

Oh damn, Courageous. I thought someone took some old N64 game I didn't know about and photoshopped in a Mii.

[lilboo]

I can understand how it looks very N64..but look at the Pokemon. They don't look BAD, they are made to have that .. Mii.. look. I can't explain it, but I think you know what I mean.

If anything, this is probably like Pokemon Box meets Mii Plaza

[Snake2715]

Like the graphics on a Pokemon game will ever matter.

[botticus]

Does anyone happen to know when the US conference is going on?

Pic of the WiiWare FFCC
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071010/wws03.jpg

[CoffeeEdge]

So I wonder how big the Wii Ware games are going to be. I have little doubt that Crystal Chronicles is going to basically require additional storage, because I'm sure it'll take up the better part of the 512 megs of built-in memory.

[lilboo]

Does anyone happen to know when the US conference is going on?

Pic of the WiiWare FFCC
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071010/wws03.jpg


So how many blocks will THAT BE?!?
.......And the 512 is supposed to be enough?!

Dear GOD I hope they let us expand with SD cards. P P P P P PLLLEASE!!

[dallow]

I smell HDD support.

The Wii dev units have harddrives inside don't they?
And the shell is the same as the retail units.

[lilboo]

I smell HDD support.

OH DAL! <3
/Peggy

I sure hope so!

[CoffeeEdge]

http://bb.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/static/image/2007/10/10/wiis10_cart.jpg

It's like PGR4, haha.

Here's some more screens of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Little King and the Promised Land (LONGEST FUCKING NAME EVER):
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/e0jk2.jpg
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/5jc4.jpg http://www.santasw.com/tmp/6$$$.jpg
http://www.santasw.com/tmp/gea6.jpg http://www.santasw.com/tmp/20n58.jpg

[dallow]

Mario Kart look terrible in that screenshot.


Max weight is 300lbs for Wii Fit.
How many of you out of the running? ;)

[dothog]

If the SSB series were being dismantled the way MK appears to be with the Wii release, this space wouldn't hear the end of it. Motorcycles in MK takes the "kart" right out of it. The rumored exclusion of GC control and the recent updates (motorcyclin' and stunt jumpin') suggests that MK purists are in for a bumpy ride.

Otherwise an awesome update from Nintendo. Still can't get over Sonic in SSBB. Now that it's been announced, I can't imagine how I ever suspected he wouldn't be included, even though yesterday I'd have gladly offered 2:1 odds on Sonic's appearance. Happy nobody took me up on that or I'd be broke.

I'm interested in more details on the Wii Ware FFCC thing. If it requires a bunch of additional local hardware like the GC version for co-op, to hell with it. If it allows online co-op, that will be the balls.

[PenguinoMF]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mario Kart name changed to Mario Racing

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, Mario Kart is looking more and more like a game I'll pass on. Possible delay on smash bros is sucky as well, as it's the only other 2007 game (after Mario Galaxy) that's a day one purchase for me.

Odds of selling my Wii after beating Mario and seeing prices on Craig's List jump up for the holidays are rapidly increasing.

[dallow]

If the SSB series were being dismantled the way MK appears to be with the Wii release, this space wouldn't hear the end of it. Motorcycles in MK takes the "kart" right out of it. The rumored exclusion of GC control and the recent updates (motorcyclin' and stunt jumpin') suggests that MK purists are in for a bumpy ride..GOOD.

Series has been stale for a while.

[botticus]

Guess I'm not sure what the big deal is about motorcycles. It's a lot closer to a "kart" than Wario's sedan or the baby strollers from Double Dash.

[dothog]

Guess I'm not sure what the big deal is about motorcycles. It's a lot closer to a "kart" than Wario's sedan or the baby strollers from Double Dash.
2 Wheels vs. 4 Wheels. Granted there were some that broke the mold in DS but they were so-called extras.

I understand people think the game is "stale," but then so is fighting in Smash Bros. and jumping in Super Mario. I propose arm wrestling for the former and goomba slapping for the latter.

Believe it or not there's a community of karters who admire the controls of the recent versions, MKDD especially, and feel they extend the game beyond multiplayer races and make time trialing a rewarding pasttime. The ill-advised second racer in MKDD thankfully didn't jeopardize that control--my concern is that the game control won't be preserved in MK Wii with all the new stuff tossed in (cycles, stunts, and most importantly motion control).

I guess there's always KartRider, though it doesn't control nearly as well as MKDD.

[dallow]

Don't know what this is but it looks neat.

http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/29593/2004228380874888202_rs.jpg
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/29331/2004206940078887560_rs.jpg
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/31285/2004289617489715313_rs.jpg

[dallow]

2 Wheels vs. 4 Wheels. Granted there were some that broke the mold in DS but they were so-called extras.

I understand people think the game is "stale," but then so is fighting in Smash Bros. and jumping in Super Mario. I propose arm wrestling for the former and goomba slapping for the latter.

Believe it or not there's a community of karters who admire the controls of the recent versions, MKDD especially, and feel they extend the game beyond multiplayer races and make time trialing a rewarding pasttime. The ill-advised second racer in MKDD thankfully didn't jeopardize that control--my concern is that the game control won't be preserved in MK Wii with all the new stuff tossed in (cycles, stunts, and most importantly motion control).

I guess there's always KartRider, though it doesn't control nearly as well as MKDD.NO. So wrong.

Mario gets brand new worlds, and big new gameplay mechanics.
Smash is barely getting it's 3rd title, and it looks to shake things up a bit.

Mario Kart.
Same damn thing.
At least Double Dash had the double feature, but MK DS was nothing new.

[dothog]

NO. So wrong.

Mario gets brand new worlds, and big new gameplay mechanics.
Smash is barely getting it's 3rd title, and it looks to shake things up a bit.

Mario Kart.
Same damn thing.
At least Double Dash had the double feature, but MK DS was nothing new.
DS was awesome simply because it focused on karting, new tracks, improved battle, and fun, all the while including online play. If you think DS was a step down because it didn't include some throwaway trick, you're wrong. MKDS did everything right IMO and felt like something "new" to me. If karting on the DS didn't kill my hands I'd consider it my personal favorite.

There's a way to maintain the MK series so that it improves on its core (for the sake of devoted fans) while still having fun additions (for casual fans). I would think motion control, 12P online play, and some new characters/karts/tracks would be more than enough to keep casual fans happy. In the meantime they could refine the game control and offer a variety of control input to keep the core karter happy. Instead it looks like they're "opening up" the game and stiffing devoted fans.

SSBB is the perfect example of how you can improve a series in every respect in that you build on the core of the game while adding lots of new features to interest casual fans. I strongly disagree with the notion that MK Wii couldn't follow the SSBB model. What's being done doesn't appear to be fair to people who've closely followed the series and played each of its games extensively (to the point of obsession as devoted fans of other games do). I guess we'll have to see how the game turns out this spring.

/MKWii

[Super Maio Fan]

NO. So wrong.

Mario gets brand new worlds, and big new gameplay mechanics.
Smash is barely getting it's 3rd title, and it looks to shake things up a bit.

Mario Kart.
Same damn thing.
At least Double Dash had the double feature, but MK DS was nothing new.


Which is what made it great. Look at NSMB, it was just a classic 2D platformer, sure there were some bells and whistles, but the fact that it added nothing new to the series made it great.

[dallow]

Which is what made it great. Look at NSMB, it was just a classic 2D platformer, sure there were some bells and whistles, but the fact that it added nothing new to the series made it great.And finally Mario Kart is getting some bells and whistles.

Thank goodness.

DS was awesome simply because it focused on karting, new tracks, improved battle, and fun, all the while including online play. If you think DS was a step down because it didn't include some throwaway trick, you're wrong. MKDS did everything right IMO and felt like something "new" to me. If karting on the DS didn't kill my hands I'd consider it my personal favorite.

There's a way to maintain the MK series so that it improves on its core (for the sake of devoted fans) while still having fun additions (for casual fans). I would think motion control, 12P online play, and some new characters/karts/tracks would be more than enough to keep casual fans happy. In the meantime they could refine the game control and offer a variety of control input to keep the core karter happy. Instead it looks like they're "opening up" the game and stiffing devoted fans.

SSBB is the perfect example of how you can improve a series in every respect in that you build on the core of the game while adding lots of new features to interest casual fans. I strongly disagree with the notion that MK Wii couldn't follow the SSBB model. What's being done doesn't appear to be fair to people who've closely followed the series and played each of its games extensively (to the point of obsession as devoted fans of other games do). I guess we'll have to see how the game turns out this spring.

/MKWiiMK DS wasn't a step down. Just a step sideways. As usual.

[dallow]

I should note that I've played the hell out of every Mario Kart.
But c'mon.

If they made a MKDS 2, it'd be the first one in the series that I wouldn't purchase. I'm just tired of the same old thing.
I wasn't even excited about about the Wii version until I found out about the stunts, and 12 player online.

And now bikes?

Yes yes and yes.

[CoffeeEdge]

Possible delay on smash bros is sucky as well
It's not a "possible delay." Brawl is officially delayed until at least January 24, 2008 (and that's for Japan, so it'll probably be even later for the US).

[dmaul1114]

I have no problem with the bikes etc. I've just hate the tilt racing controls in every racing game I've tried on the Wii, so I'm very skeptical about those.

[jkam]

Cool...DS Demo Channel. It's about time! Mario Baseball might be good...I never played the GC one though. Keep it up ninty!

[Strell]

Is there still a NOA meeting today? And if so, when? Unless it's already happened...

[dallow]

Cool...DS Demo Channel. It's about time! Mario Baseball might be good...I never played the GC one though. Keep it up ninty!It was developed by Namco and bad.
Lots of glitches and just not fun for a sports Nintendo game.
Hope this one is much improved.

[Vinny]

How will the DS Demo channel work I wonder?:-k

But it sounds cool and I can finally kick Sonic's ass for being in so many shitty games.

[dmaul1114]

How will the DS Demo channel work I wonder?:-k



The DS and Wii have the ability to connect wirelessly, so it will just transfer the data that way. Log on to the channel to start the process, then synch up the DS.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

How will the DS Demo channel work I wonder?:-k

But it sounds cool and I can finally kick Sonic's ass for being in so many shitty games.

I bet the channel will be like a mini Wii Shop. The demo channel itself will hold all of the current DS demos. You select which demo you want and it will be downloaded as another channel. You launch that channel and it will send the demo to your DS.

[botticus]

It's not a "possible delay." Brawl is officially delayed until at least January 24, 2008 (and that's for Japan, so it'll probably be even later for the US).Odd because there was no release date for Brawl in Japan, that I'm aware, but if they had one, it would most certainly have been after 12/3. For the US, it's "TBD" at the moment. It's much more important that they get it out in December in the US than in Japan, but at the same time I'm assuming it's best for everyone if they delay it as long as necessary given that it's likely the only SSB title for the next 5 or 6 years. But I'm not a Smash fanatic, so maybe I'm wrong.

[Zen Davis]

Disaster: Day of Crisis- More Here (http://jeux-france.com/news22181_disaster-day-of-crisis-se-devoile.html):
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http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_50981520071010_165723_2_big.jpg
Battallion Wars 2- More Here: (http://jeux-france.com/news22175_battalion-wars-2-a-l-affiche.html)
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Wii Music
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Super Mario Stadium Baseball- More Here: (http://jeux-france.com/news22179_super-mario-stadium-baseball-en-images.html)
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Super Mario Galaxy
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http://www.jeux-france.com/news22177_mario-kart-wii-avec-des-motos-.html
Mario Kart: More through the link.
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_l_wk_071010wii06.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/l_wk_071010wii06.jpg)
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[CoffeeEdge]

Odd because there was no release date for Brawl in Japan, that I'm aware, but if they had one, it would most certainly have been after 12/3. For the US, it's "TBD" at the moment. It's much more important that they get it out in December in the US than in Japan, but at the same time I'm assuming it's best for everyone if they delay it as long as necessary given that it's likely the only SSB title for the next 5 or 6 years. But I'm not a Smash fanatic, so maybe I'm wrong.
You're seriously fooling yourself if you think it's going to somehow come out at least a month earlier in the US than in Japan. What on Earth makes you think that's possible?

It's delayed, dude, deal with it.

[MisterHand]

I bet the channel will be like a mini Wii Shop. The demo channel itself will hold all of the current DS demos. You select which demo you want and it will be downloaded as another channel. You launch that channel and it will send the demo to your DS.I hope not. A new channel for each DS demo would be a hassle.

[dallow]

You're seriously fooling yourself if you think it's going to somehow come out at least a month earlier in the US than in Japan. What on Earth makes you think that's possible?

It's delayed, dude, deal with it.::shrugs:: Possible in the same way the Wii was launched in NA almost 3 weeks before Japan.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I hope not. A new channel for each DS demo would be a hassle.

Well they could just emulate the way they currently do it and release a DS demo channel that has all of the current DS demos on it. If they chose to do it that way, you would need to download a new channel each time a new DS demo compilation came out.

The example I gave previously would allow them to house all of the demos in one place instead of spreading them among multiple demo channels.

[trq]

I just had a horrible realization, terrifying for all it implies.

I'm going to buy Wii Fit.

Also, those new shots of Galaxy and Day of Crisis look pretty solid.

[botticus]

You're seriously fooling yourself if you think it's going to somehow come out at least a month earlier in the US than in Japan. What on Earth makes you think that's possible?

It's delayed, dude, deal with it.There have been plenty of games that are separated by wider margins than a month so far with the Wii (i.e. Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Metroid, BBA, Wii Fit off the top of my head). So it's possible. Beyond that, I have "dealt" with it.

This whole confrontational deal you have about everything is kind of annoying, you know?

[Rocko]

Just browsed the OP, but I'm glad to see official announcement of a DS Demo Channel. Sad to see Brawl most likely delayed in the US as well.

And mad that Sonic is in Brawl. Lame!

[RAMSTORIA]

monster hunter 3 on the wii is a testament to how big nintendo has become since the last gen, thats huge for japan.

fire emblem ds was inevitable, but im glad nonetheless, i cant wait in fact.

[lilboo]

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_l_wk_071010wii06.jpg

Win!

[EXStrike]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464


High PS3 costs prompt Capcom to move to Wii


Matt Martin 15:53 (BST) 10/10/2007
Monster Hunter 3 now a Nintendo exclusive
Capcom has said that the high development costs of working on the PlayStation (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#) 3 are the reason the publisher is moving its latest Monster Hunter title to the Nintendo Wii (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#).
Previous Monster Hunter (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#) games were Sony exclusives for the PS2 and PSP, and the company has enjoyed considerable success with the franchise clocking up sales of over 4.5 million units.
"Due to high development cost of titles for PS3 (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#), we have decided to switch the platform to which we release our Monster Hunter 3 title," said Katsuhiko Ichii, Capcom's (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#) managing corporate officer, according to Thompson Financial.
Capcom revealed Monster Hunter 3 for the Wii at a recent Nintendo press briefing (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29439), although it had originally said the game would appear on the PlayStation 3 (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29464#).
The publisher said earlier this month that it was now shifting its development strategy (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29258) for Sony products to the PlayStation 3, where previously it had dedicated the majority of its efforts on the PlayStation 2.


Now we know why.

[Zen Davis]

This is really the conference that should have been held at E3.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826161/first-look-super-mario-stadium-baseball-20071010082327564.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14209902/image_frame.html?image_id=2&screenshot_id=4961737)
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[lilboo]

Ok Dr Mii-rio (bwahahaha) looks really awesome. Ya know what's even funnier? They will still release the NES version! :bomb:

But that looks cool.
All of these WiiWare channels are nice..but I'm trying not to get too excited. ..You know they are gonna cost us some monies.. :(

[botticus]

FFCC trailer (not much, but I see a building being created at the least - and dancing moogles)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WIBEUQlYhDU

[Zen Davis]

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Maruboushikaku (http://wii.ign.com/objects/142/14209908.html)

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[help1]

SONIC IN SMASH! Ftfw!

[dallow]

Mario Kart is awesome.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xgA1brLKrc

[drfunk85]

This is really the conference that should have been held at E3.
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826161/first-look-super-mario-stadium-baseball-20071010082328080.jpg


Ugh, I know it's Mario, but ever heard of a Batters-eye Nintendo? The background of this stadium has too much shit going on and looks as if it will be tough to pick up the ball. Who knows though, it probably won't be, just my imagination. Still, that is one ugly looking stadium. I would like to see some more classic looking stadiums with a Mario twist to them.

[Strell]

Nintendo has a permanent rape-hole in my wallet's ass.

[RelentlessRolento]

not oddly enough, all I care about is the monster hunter news.

[BlueLobstah]

Nintendo has a permanent rape-hole in my wallet's ass.

Thank God I'm not a kid anymore. My parents would have NEVER bought all the cool Nintendo stuff coming out that I'm probably going to buy.

Whoa. Did anyone notice in the Mario Kart video there were 12 racers? I think that pretty much confirms it...

[whoknows]

Now all we need is Darkwing Duck to be added to Brawl or get his own game.

[Ikohn4ever]

all these pictures and news is making me happy as a little school girl

[Tybee]

Ok Dr Mii-rio (bwahahaha) looks really awesome. Ya know what's even funnier? They will still release the NES version! :bomb:

But that looks cool.
All of these WiiWare channels are nice..but I'm trying not to get too excited. ..You know they are gonna cost us some monies.. :(

I would have gone with Dr. MarWii-o. ;)

But seriously, Dr. Mario is my wife's all-time favorite game, so she will be stoked for this.

What's with the Miis on wheels shooting balls? Miignetica?

[CoffeeEdge]

Is it just me or does MarioKart Wii have, like, the worst shadows ever?

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/59811520071010_145116_1_big.jpg

[Tybee]

Is it just me or does MarioKart Wii have, like, the worst shadows ever?

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/59811520071010_145116_1_big.jpg

Perhaps they're striving for SNES authenticity in that level. ;)

[evilmax17]

Anybody know the start time for the NA conference?

[lilboo]

<33333 Mario Kart <33333

Seriously. Love that game.

I'm glad they are using Motorcycles as an extra mode and we can still use karts..hence the name :)

Would also be great if they threw in a Double Dash mode too..for the people whom really enjoyed that game!

[dallow]

Anybody know the start time for the NA conference?10 minutes.

[Scrubking]

Anybody know the start time for the NA conference?

It's supposedly under a NDA.

[Strell]

Is it really in 10 min? And if so, does anyone want to start some sort of chat room somewherez?

Also, how in the hell did I miss that Wiiware titles sport Wifi play?

Please - please - make this easy to implement, Nintendo.

[dallow]

There won't be any news coming out.
NDA.

I doubt they have anything of worth to share other than release dates.
NOJ already spilled the beans on everything.

[trq]

Also, how in the hell did I miss that Wiiware titles sport Wifi play?

Holy crapz.

[Strell]

There won't be any news coming out.
NDA.

I doubt they have anything of worth to share other than release dates.
NOJ already spilled the beans on everything.

Ahhhhh.

Well dammit, I just want update on Smash date anyway.

[dallow]

Me too.

http://www.themanandhischeese.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/oct10hiro.gif

[maigoyume]

finally fire emblem ds :applause:

[lilboo]

Ahhhhh.

Well dammit, I just want update on Smash date anyway.

TY!!!!! After watching that new video and hearing Peach do a "Wa~Cha!!"..and I guess her new taunt is singing? Because she was shaking her ass at Bowser & music notes were coming out.

That, right here made me realize "Fuck. I need this game NOW"

But on discussion of Peach's new taunt (if it's that) it makes me wonder if Strell had anything to do with it. Is she just swaying her hips and saying "I WANT TO MUSIC" ??? :-k

[PawnTakesKing]

I have to say, this has revitalized my interest in the Wii. Bravo, Nintendo.

[Strell]

Me too.

http://www.themanandhischeese.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/oct10hiro.gif

IWATA DROPPEN ZAL BOMBEN

[whoknows]

So...how much of this stuff is happening this year?

I'm too lazy to look at the list due to...laziness.

[Tybee]

Ain't over yet. Wii Music confirmed:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/xylophone-hero/wii-music-revealed-309425.php

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/10/wii_music_leadin.jpg

[lilboo]

Ain't over yet. Wii Music confirmed:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/xylophone-hero/wii-music-revealed-309425.php

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/10/wii_music_leadin.jpg

Neat!
Note: Must create Brady Bunch Miis

[The Crotch]

If the SSB series were being dismantled the way MK appears to be with the Wii release, this space wouldn't hear the end of it. Motorcycles in MK takes the "kart" right out of it. The rumored exclusion of GC control and the recent updates (motorcyclin' and stunt jumpin') suggests that MK purists are in for a bumpy ride.I'd argue with you, but we all know Linkin Prime doesn't allow shit like that.

[-Never4ever-]

I really, really hope they use Sonic to his full advantage as far as recapturing the magic of yesteryear/nostalgia. I want his stage to be something old school, not out of a recent stage. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't cop out with Green Hill Zone although it wouldn't be too horrible if they did.

Chemical Plant, with Eggman weeving in and out of the stage would fucking rock faces.

Imagine just fighting on the stage, then all of a sudden the Sonic 2 boss music kicks in and out of no where Eggman shows up!

[dallow]

I'd argue with you, but we all know Linkin Prime doesn't allow shit like that.Uh oh, you said the S word.

[The Crotch]

Uh oh, you said the S word.To be fair to DotHog, the game does look like ass right now.

[Lan_Zer0]

I really, really hope they use Sonic to his full advantage as far as recapturing the magic of yesteryear/nostalgia. I want his stage to be something old school, not out of a recent stage. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't cop out with Green Hill Zone although it wouldn't be too horrible if they did.

Starlight Zone and Angel Island (that is set on fire midway through the stage, and has the Flying Battery dropping bombs) would rock.

[CouRageouS]

I REALLY REALLY hope that Squeenix didn't abandon this beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_Ej2fU42M

I hope the WiiWare FF:CC is just a separate online multiplayer game akin to the GCN version, because that old trailer really got my hopes up.

[Strell]

Neat!
Note: Must create Brady Bunch Miis

MY PARTRIDGE FAMILY MIIS ARE GONNA fuck YOU UP

[dallow]

MY PARTRIDGE FAMILY MIIS ARE GONNA fuck YOU UPYou don't mess with us.

http://images.morrissey-solo.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_smiths-Mii.jpg

[io]

Wow... Just, wow...

...glad to contribute!

On a serious note, I am a bit upset about the SSBB delay if it happens here too - my son's birthday was the very day the game was set to be released (Dec 3) at least according to EB/GS and all the game sites. It was going to be the absolute most perfect birthday present for him, as he still plays SSBM on a consistent basis (and put more time into it then me and the other kids combined). Late January just kind of hoses it all up, though my other son's birthday is in early Feb.

[Tybee]

You don't mess with us.

http://images.morrissey-solo.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_smiths-Mii.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.switched.com/media/2007/06/wiilco-tshirt.jpg

Check and mate.

[evilmax17]

It's supposedly under a NDA.
Man, you guys weren't kidding.

It's like a news desert today.

[CoffeeEdge]

So...how much of this stuff is happening this year?
Not much.

I REALLY REALLY hope that Squeenix didn't abandon this beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_Ej2fU42M

I hope the WiiWare FF:CC is just a separate online multiplayer game akin to the GCN version, because that old trailer really got my hopes up.
They're two separate games, as far as I can tell. That game you linked a trailer of is called Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers, and is still in development as a boxed title as far as I know, and the WiiWare game is called Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Little/Young King and the Promised Land.

I'm probably more looking forward to the WiiWare game now, because it's actually a sequel to the GCN original, which I loved dearly, whereas The Crystal Bearers, while nice looking, appears to be a completely different game in many respects.

[SpazX]

Wow, and I just got a 360. I need money, lots of money.

[Strell]

LMFAO, this is from NeoGAF:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Einzell/sonicthename.jpg

I just can't get over how pissed off Mario looks in the first panel. It would make a perfect avatar.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Not much.


They're two separate games, as far as I can tell. That game you linked a trailer of is called Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers, and is still in development as a boxed title as far as I know, and the WiiWare game is called Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Little/Young King and the Promised Land.

I'm probably more looking forward to the WiiWare game now, because it's actually a sequel to the GCN original, which I loved dearly, whereas The Crystal Bearers, while nice looking, appears to be a completely different game in many respects.

I watched the translated version of the conference and Iwata says that they are completely separate games. He mentioned that they both take place in the Crystal Chronicles series, but that the Crystal Bearers will be a regular retail game.

[Scrubking]

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_4917_en.html

All SMG powerups revealed in Video form.

Bee Mario, boo Mario, Fire Mario, Ice Mario, Spring Mario, Star Mario

[FriskyTanuki]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

IGN's liveblogging the event.

Also note that some games from today's event are under embargo until next week and will therefore not be covered in today's live blog.

9:15 a.m.: Talking about Smash Bros. delay. Smash Bros. delayed officially here in the US until Sunday, Feb. 10!
9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like.
9:19 a.m.: Wii library will see 86 new releases this holiday compared to 47 for Xbox 360 and 38 for PlayStation 3.

9:17 a.m.: Been making more Wii systems. Demand continues to surprise Nintendo. Consumers will still have to "hustle" to find the system this year. Will have about two times the product they had last year.
9:22 a.m.: Nintendo boots up Super Mario Galaxy. Looks like you can store at least six save files. Game is "basically" in its retail form.
9:34 a.m.: Boots Zelda Crossbow Training. Holding Wii Zapper in both hands, Nintendo rep is ready to rock. Three different types of gameplay. Score attack. Multiplayer, etc. First stage is Ordon Target Practice. You merely shoot the targets as they pop up. Nunchuk's z-trigger is a zoom function. The premise may not make the most sense in the world -- Link isn't exactly known for his crossbow -- but whatever, this still looks pretty cool. Running on Twilight Princess engine with an identical visual style. Targets pop up around the lush green environment. You can shoot signs and pumpkins when you're not crowssbowing targets. You can also shoot chickens, but you'll take a point loss. D'oh!

9:37 a.m.: In Stalfos Defender, you see Link in the foreground as Stalfos approach nearby. You have to shoot as many of them as you can. You can turn the screen by dragging the on-screen reticule to the left or right. Very satisfying effect as you blow the enemies apart. For a $19.99 pack-in, this is pretty impressive stuff. Indeed, looks much more fun than Umbrella Chronicles, as far as I'm concerned.

9:38 a.m.: In another type of gameplay style, you actually move Link through the levels with the nunchuk's analog stick and aim normally with the Zapper. You have full freedom of movement and can walk into any direction. Meanwhile, you can zoom in and pick off enemies from a distance, shoot boxes for upgrades, etc. When you shoot something other than an enemy, you still keep your multiplier. Again, color me pleasantly surprised.
9:41 a.m.: Demonstration ends. Now, Nintendo is booting up Super Smash Bros. Brawl. We see a character screen with Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, Diddy Kong, Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, Peach, Yoshi, Sonic, Bowser and a random button. Nintendo talks about the four different control schemes, which are fully customizable.

9:42 a.m.: For the purposes of today's demoes, matches will be set to two-minute timers with items turned on. Using classic controller, you'll use the analog stick to move. D-Pad to taunt.

9:44 a.m.: Match is up and running with very little (maybe no) load times. Game is running 60 frames per second and full 480p widescreen. Looks really crisp, clean, sharp. Smash Balls randomly appear on-screen. They'll float around and you'll have to pound on them for awhile before they release their special abilities. This is demonstrated as Samus and Mario duke it out. Samus gains her special ability and blasts Mario with a super shot that fills the entire screen. Afterward, Aran turns into Zero Suit Samus.

9:46 a.m.: Wii remote held classically simplifies the controls. Move with the D-Pad. Shield attack is mapped to the B-trigger, which takes the most getting used to.

9:47 a.m.: Link and Sonic are now fighting in the Star Fox level. Wow. The ship is flying through wormholes as you battle. Other craft soar by in the foreground and background. Extremely gorgeous. So clean and amazingly fast with detailed particle effects exploding in every direction. The game is going to be an addiction, plain and simple. Sonic becomes Super Sonic, "which basically means he can just fly around and pummel me at will," explains Nintendo rep.

9:49 a.m.: They just asked for volunteers and I politely volunteered Bozon. I also told him that if he didn't win, he's fired.

9:51 a.m.: Boz chooses Pikachu. He's playing Chris Kohler from Wired. Whoever wins, the audience loses.

9:52 a.m.: After much procrastination, the match begins. Pikachu versus Pit versus Donkey Kong. Boz better win, or else...

9:53: Playing to the backdrop of Twilight Princess' bridge. I hear a lot of "Pika! Pika!" Doesn't look good for old Boz, though. Eight seconds left. Five. Four. Three. Two One. End. Pikachu comes in last place. So very, very sad.

Seems to be it. Not much

[RedvsBlue]

86 new titles huh? And how many of those games are complete garbage?

I know that I personally can't wait for Dancing with the Stars, Cruis'n, and Jenga!

:roll:

[Strell]

86 new titles huh? And how many of those games are complete garbage?

I know that I personally can't wait for Dancing with the Stars, Cruis'n, and Jenga!

:roll:

The most popular system of the moment always gets shovelware.

I didn't hear people complaining with the PS2.

It doesn't diminish the games you'd actually play.

You've made this comment about three times today.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

The most popular system of the moment always gets shovelware.

I didn't hear people complaining with the PS2.

It doesn't diminish the games you'd actually play.

You've made this comment about three times today.

QFFuckingT

The system with the biggest install base always gets the most shovelware. If you have 10 million people and you throw a lot of shit out there, it is going to stick to enough of them to make it worth the (minimal) effort.

Look at the DS. Over half of the software sucks. REALLY sucks. That doesn't mean that the good games are less good or that the hardware itself has problems.

EDIT: The Smash Brothers delay sucks major balls though.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah who cares about shovelware. I just skip it, and play the good games.

I'm just still lamenting the fact that they're still not showing anything beyond Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros that's an absolute must buy type of game for me.

[Zen Davis]

9:56 a.m.: Looks like the gameplay demonstrations are at an end and thus, so is this live blog. Look out for Smash Bros. coverage later today, but you'll have to wait on the rest.
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011095550958-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965449.html)
9:53: Playing to the backdrop of Twilight Princess' bridge. I hear a lot of "Pika! Pika!" Doesn't look good for old Boz, though. Eight seconds left. Five. Four. Three. Two One. End. Pikachu comes in last place. So very, very sad. 9:52 a.m.: After much procrastination, the match begins. Pikachu versus Pit versus Donkey Kong. Boz better win, or else...

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011095225249-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965429.html)
9:51 a.m.: Boz chooses Pikachu. He's playing Chris Kohler from Wired. Whoever wins, the audience loses. 9:49 a.m.: They just asked for volunteers and I politely volunteered Bozon. I also told him that if he didn't win, he's fired.
9:47 a.m.: Link and Sonic are now fighting in the Star Fox level. Wow. The ship is flying through wormholes as you battle. Other craft soar by in the foreground and background. Extremely gorgeous. So clean and amazingly fast with detailed particle effects exploding in every direction. The game is going to be an addiction, plain and simple. Sonic becomes Super Sonic, "which basically means he can just fly around and pummel me at will," explains Nintendo rep.
9:46 a.m.: Wii remote held classically simplifies the controls. Move with the D-Pad. Shield attack is mapped to the B-trigger, which takes the most getting used to.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011094637671-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965403.html)
9:44 a.m.: Match is up and running with very little (maybe no) load times. Game is running 60 frames per second and full 480p widescreen. Looks really crisp, clean, sharp. Smash Balls randomly appear on-screen. They'll float around and you'll have to pound on them for awhile before they release their special abilities. This is demonstrated as Samus and Mario duke it out. Samus gains her special ability and blasts Mario with a super shot that fills the entire screen. Afterward, Aran turns into Zero Suit Samus.
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011094316680-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965400.html)
9:42 a.m.: For the purposes of today's demoes, matches will be set to two-minute timers with items turned on. Using classic controller, you'll use the analog stick to move. D-Pad to taunt. 9:41 a.m.: Demonstration ends. Now, Nintendo is booting up Super Smash Bros. Brawl. We see a character screen with Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, Diddy Kong, Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, Peach, Yoshi, Sonic, Bowser and a random button. Nintendo talks about the four different control schemes, which are fully customizable.
9:38 a.m.: In another type of gameplay style, you actually move Link through the levels with the nunchuk's analog stick and aim normally with the Zapper. You have full freedom of movement and can walk into any direction. Meanwhile, you can zoom in and pick off enemies from a distance, shoot boxes for upgrades, etc. When you shoot something other than an enemy, you still keep your multiplier. Again, color me pleasantly surprised.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011093539122-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965395.html)
9:37 a.m.: In Stalfos Defender, you see Link in the foreground as Stalfos approach nearby. You have to shoot as many of them as you can. You can turn the screen by dragging the on-screen reticule to the left or right. Very satisfying effect as you blow the enemies apart. For a $19.99 pack-in, this is pretty impressive stuff. Indeed, looks much more fun than Umbrella Chronicles, as far as I'm concerned. 9:34 a.m.: Boots Zelda Crossbow Training. Holding Wii Zapper in both hands, Nintendo rep is ready to rock. Three different types of gameplay. Score attack. Multiplayer, etc. First stage is Ordon Target Practice. You merely shoot the targets as they pop up. Nunchuk's z-trigger is a zoom function. The premise may not make the most sense in the world -- Link isn't exactly known for his crossbow -- but whatever, this still looks pretty cool. Running on Twilight Princess engine with an identical visual style. Targets pop up around the lush green environment. You can shoot signs and pumpkins when you're not crowssbowing targets. You can also shoot chickens, but you'll take a point loss. D'oh!

9:31 a.m.: Shows us bonus mission. Loopdeloop Galaxy. You unlock this secret galaxy, apparently. This is a surfing challenge. Seen in previously released NCL videos. You ride a manta ray down a watery pathway, bouncing up and down as you go. Seems to have a good sense of realistic physics. Reminds me a bit of Wave Race, actually. Potential for some big jumps and air. Looks like a great deal of fun.
9:30 a.m.: Like Mario 64, you'll be able to play missions over and over again, but the stars will be grayed out.
9:29 a.m.: As always, Mario Galaxy looks crisp and clean. This is the prettiest game on Wii to date, no doubt. Gameplay mechanics seem to be very well thought out and clever. Nintendo rep is currently fighting a mandibug boss and Mario must swing up dandelions to propel himself into the air and them butt-stomp onto the mandibug.
9:27 a.m.: "Constant sense of wonder as you're wandering around. You really just don't know what you're going to see next."
9:23 a.m.: Nintendo selects the Honeyhive Galaxy and the Big Bad Bugaboom sub-level. The bees have been taken over by these creatures called mandibugs. You have to don the Mario Bee Suit to fly and deal with the problem.
9:22 a.m.: Nintendo boots up Super Mario Galaxy. Looks like you can store at least six save files. Game is "basically" in its retail form.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011092443761-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965391.html)
There is a cosmic observatory, which acts as your hub world. Similar to the castle in Super Mario 64. Looks very nice. Same hub we've seen in the previous official trailer. Nintendo takes Mario into a terrace, where multiple different galaxies can be selected. "As you get more and more stars, you will be able to illuminate more of the areas and be able to access them." 9:21 a.m.: About an hour of live demonstrations coming. Then we'll be able to play games today and tomorrow. Looks like Super Mario Galaxy demonstration is going to begin.
9:20 a.m.: "Best game coming for the holiday is Super Mario Galaxy." Can't really argue with that.
9:19 a.m.: Wii library will see 86 new releases this holiday compared to 47 for Xbox 360 and 38 for PlayStation 3.
9:17 a.m.: Been making more Wii systems. Demand continues to surprise Nintendo. Consumers will still have to "hustle" to find the system this year. Will have about two times the product they had last year.
9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like.
9:15 a.m.: Talking about Smash Bros. delay. Smash Bros. delayed officially here in the US until Sunday, Feb. 10!

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011091805169-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965387.html)
9:14 a.m.: NOA's George Harrison takes the podium. He's going to give us an update, he says. We get to play for the "first time" Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Link's Crossbow Training, Battalion Wars 2, Mario Party DS, Advance Wars 2 and Master of Illusion. We'll also get an updated look at Galaxy. 9:13 a.m.: We're a couple of minutes away. As an aside, Super Mario Galaxy is going to rule.
9:10 a.m.: Oh. I just got an update. Evidently I can live blog about everything we see here. I just can't post official hands-on impressions until Monday. Weird, but I'll take it. With that in mind, here's the schedule: At 9:15, Super Mario Galaxy demonstration. At 9:30, Link's Crossbow Training demonstration. At 9:45, Smash Bros. demonstration. At 10:00 a.m., open gameplay. At 12:30, lunch. And then more open gameplay for the remainder of the day, methinks. Everything except Smash Bros. Brawl will go live on Monday, media included, I presume.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/826/826577/live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011091642782-000.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577/img_4965384.html)
9:08 a.m.: Our video crew is setting up. We just got an embargo sheet. Looks like there definitely will be a Brawl demonstration starting at about 9:45 a.m. There are other demonstrations, too, but because of the embargo, I'm not entirely sure that I can mention them. Also, I'm getting the impression that Nintendo will be blasting the wire with news in the next hour and a half, if not earlier. Brawl delay? Pure speculation at this point. Maybe it'll be just the opposite. Like I said, I'm still a little out of it. 9:03 a.m.: Bozon has returned from doing absolutely nothing. Hurray! Good for you, Bozon.
9:02 a.m.: Evidently we're only able to film a combined five minutes of gameplay footage for each game. However, we will also be able to film gameplay demonstrations in full. Of course, you should note that we can only post Brawl stuff today. The rest will have to wait until next week. I apologize in advance, but don't shoot the messenger.
8:53 a.m.: Still sitting here and wondering where the hell my editors are. I think Bozon has moved beyond cookies and to full-blown breakfast. Do these people realize a major event is about to start?
8:52 a.m.: There is still some confusion about what I can and can't write about, and what we'll be able to show you in video and screenshots. Apparently, everything except for Super Smash Bros. Brawl coverage will be under embargo until Monday. But we will, according to what I've heard, be able to film a Brawl presentation and write in detail about the fighter today, which sounds fantastic.
8:49 a.m.: I'm sitting in the front row, waiting for this sucker to kick off. Editors Craig Harris and Mark Bozon are eating cookies. We've all gathered on the thirty-second floor of a major San Francisco hotel to see updated looks at major "Q4" games. This includes Wii and DS software, of course. It should be pretty exciting. I'm just back from New York, where I've been out of reach for the last week-plus, but even I had a chance to see the announcements from Japan yesterday and I'm sure similarly interesting unveilings will be mirrored here in our side of the sea.

[botticus]

At least CoffeeEdge will be happy.

I guess I will be getting Professor Layton on the 3rd instead then.

[munch]

LMFAO, this is from NeoGAF:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Einzell/sonicthename.jpg

I just can't get over how pissed off Mario looks in the first panel. It would make a perfect avatar.

Someone has a new avatar.

[Zen Davis]

http://i8.tinypic.com/4yzdet0.gif

[munch]

Is that Sam Jackson from Black Snake Moan?

[botticus]

Is that Sam Jackson from Black Snake Moan?It is.

[yukine]

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_4917_en.html

All SMG powerups revealed in Video form.

Bee Mario, boo Mario, Fire Mario, Ice Mario, Spring Mario, Star Mario

Awesome video, thanks.

[io]

Bah, Sunday Feb 10th for SSBB? OK, this is now 2 days AFTER my older son's birthday. They are really messing with me :lol:. Is it really going to be available in store on a Sunday? Are they hoping for massive Saturday night launch parties? I guess that's possible. After hearing about Ship's Halo 3 experience, I think I'd just wait till Sunday to pick it up though. I sure as hell don't want to go to some out of the way GS (where I have it preordered thanks to that trade-in deal a few months back) and wait outside in the rain with a bunch of nobs while everyone pays up their damn preorders.

[PleasantOne]

Well, I'm annoyed with the SSBM delay, but so psyched that it will have online co-op!

Mario Kart looks cool to me, but then I'm probably not terribly discriminating, especially about that game... I'll take all the Mario Kart I can get!

I really don't get all the wii hate...there is more coming out this fall/winter than I will have the time or money for. But then, like I said, maybe I'm just not as discriminating as most...

[dmaul1114]

But then, like I said, maybe I'm just not as discriminating as most...

That's probably it. If I play a game I end up rating below an 8.5-9.0 I feel like I wasted my time and money. Moreso just money, as I seldom finish games that I'm not liking enough to rate that high.

[dallow]

Wii music sounds soooo good.
I wasn't that interested before.

Finally, a quick look at Wii Music. Yes, the game that Nintendo opened its E3 2006 press conference with exists, and the characters still don't have arms. Wii Music wasn't playable at Nintendo's press conference, but Nintendo did hold a stage demonstration for attendees. Taking to the Wiimote and nunchuck controllers was Nintendo's own sound team!

Players will be able to select from around 40 instruments, including folk guitar, bass guitar, trumpet, maracas and marimba. Six characters take part in a performance, although the game only supports up to four human players. You're free to go at the game by yourself, with the CPU taking care of the remaining parts.

Gameplay is timing based. You have to time your button presses with notes. The controls vary depending on the instrument. With the trumpet, you use A and B on the Wiimote. For the drums, you shake the Wiimote and nunchuck.

Some instruments have extra playing options, though. With the trumpet, you can aim the Wiimote up and down to simulate an increase in blowing strength. With the guitar, you can hold down the C button to get single notes instead of chords.

[dmaul1114]

Wii music does sound kind of interesting. Not sure I could get into a music game that didn't have an instrument controller these days though.

[maigoyume]

wii music definitely sounds intriguing, gonna have to wait for a price point on it though

[FriskyTanuki]

Bah, Sunday Feb 10th for SSBB? OK, this is now 2 days AFTER my older son's birthday. They are really messing with me :lol:. Is it really going to be available in store on a Sunday? Are they hoping for massive Saturday night launch parties? I guess that's possible. After hearing about Ship's Halo 3 experience, I think I'd just wait till Sunday to pick it up though. I sure as hell don't want to go to some out of the way GS (where I have it preordered thanks to that trade-in deal a few months back) and wait outside in the rain with a bunch of nobs while everyone pays up their damn preorders.
Nintendo's release dates are generally the shipping dates, so it'll be a day or two afterwards that you can get it from the store.

[SpazX]

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_4917_en.html

All SMG powerups revealed in Video form.

Bee Mario, boo Mario, Fire Mario, Ice Mario, Spring Mario, Star Mario
They also showed a sidescrolling level and several obviously large levels. My god mario galaxy will be epic...

[PleasantOne]

That's probably it. If I play a game I end up rating below an 8.5-9.0 I feel like I wasted my time and money. Moreso just money, as I seldom finish games that I'm not liking enough to rate that high.

But then, I would rate most of the games I like higher than most people would rate them. I love Excite Truck, for instance. It's not that I don't care as much about my time or money, I'm just easier to please than most, I guess.

[dmaul1114]

Fair enough. My ratings tend to mesh well with overall ratings. I mean I might not agree with one or two of the big sites, but my scores are usually pretty on par with gamerankings, metacritic etc.

So I guess my tastes in gaming are fairly standard/mainstream.

[dothog]

Not that it matters, but any idea on the cause of the delay? Was it to allow more time for development, or is this an issue of timing?

[PleasantOne]

Not that it matters, but any idea on the cause of the delay? Was it to allow more time for development, or is this an issue of timing?

I would think they would have busted their asses to get it out for Christmas if at all possible...


I seem to have missed how long this conference is lasting... is it over already? It seems like there was hardly any DS news if so... I was hoping someone would say if Mario Party DS was wifi or not...

[RedvsBlue]

The most popular system of the moment always gets shovelware.

I didn't hear people complaining with the PS2.

It doesn't diminish the games you'd actually play.

You've made this comment about three times today.

The problem though is that you shouldn't be using shovelware as a system selling point and as the licensing body you shouldn't be licensing it in the first place. Crap like Deal or No Deal that's essentially broken at its core just plain shouldn't be licensed for sale. Licensing a game shows your owners that at the bare minimum the game should work. Its pretty obvious now that Nintendo's quality assurance consists of turning the game on to make sure it boots up and then rubber stamping a piece of paper. Sure Deal or No Deal is an extreme example but with crap like Far Cry (Wii), Charlie's Angels (which supposedly couldn't get licensed by Sony or Microsoft making it a "Gamecube exclusive"), and any number of the DS titles ranked below 30% on Gamerankings its pretty obvious that its not just "one game that slipped through the cracks."

Furthermore, if you're going to want us to get excited about "86 new titles this fall" making you the console with the most titles available then make sure they're games that are actually worth owning and not just any old crap that gets submitted to you.

[Strell]

The problem though is that you shouldn't be using shovelware as a system selling point and as the licensing body you shouldn't be licensing it in the first place.

Not disagreeing with that. I think we all know the PR people will always spin things in a positive manner.

"Halo 3 is bigger than movies." Yeah, ok. Halo 3 and movie ticket sales are hardly comparable. But that doesn't stop MS from doing it.


its pretty obvious that its not just "one game that slipped through the cracks.


And were you planning on buying any of them? No. And they aren't for you. They are for the countless people who aren't you.

I think we as gamers always pride ourselves on ignoring the crap (largely) and focusing on the games that define the system.

This is the same thing as saying that "Super Rub a Dub" (or whatever the hell it is) on the PS3 is the best the system can do.

Again, I didn't hear this with the PS2, but I guarantee you at some point Sony was touting how their system was the most widely supported.



Furthermore, if you're going to want us to get excited about "86 new titles this fall" making you the console with the most titles available then make sure they're games that are actually worth owning and not just any old crap that gets submitted to you.


Again, not disagreeing.

But come on. Even if all the third parties focused solely on one system, and that system's first and second parties all had tons of gaming coming out at once, there is no way they'd get anywhere close to 86. Hell, you couldn't get that if there were one system that EVERYONE made games for.

And beyond that, there's no way any company would let that number of good games compete with each other in the same time frame, because inevitably that's going to cannibalize sales.

There's not 86 games in this new gen across all three systems worth playing, and that's even if you go into the second tier sorts of games.

[FriskyTanuki]

It would be nice that if anybody's going to cite the number of games they'll have out this holiday season, there should be a list to back it up.