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keithp
10-12-2007, 09:03 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/

Sex and marriage with robots? It could happen
Robots soon will become more human-like in appearance, researcher says

By Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience

Updated: 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
Humans could marry robots within the century. And consummate those vows.

"My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots," artificial intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D. work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as outside of it.

At first, sex with robots might be considered geeky, "but once you have a story like 'I had sex with a robot, and it was great!' appear someplace like Cosmo magazine, I'd expect many people to jump on the bandwagon," Levy said.

The idea of romance between humanity and our artistic and/or mechanical creations dates back to ancient times, with the Greek myth of the sculptor Pygmalion falling in love with the ivory statue he made named Galatea, to which the goddess Venus eventually granted life.

This notion persists in modern times. Not only has science fiction explored this idea, but 40 years ago, scientists noticed that students at times became unusually attracted to ELIZA, a computer program designed to ask questions and mimic a psychotherapist.

"There's a trend of robots becoming more human-like in appearance and coming more in contact with humans," Levy said. "At first robots were used impersonally, in factories where they helped build automobiles, for instance. Then they were used in offices to deliver mail, or to show visitors around museums, or in homes as vacuum cleaners, such as with the Roomba. Now you have robot toys, like Sony's Aibo robot dog, or Tickle Me Elmos, or digital pets like Tamagotchis."

In his thesis, "Intimate Relationships with Artificial Partners," Levy conjectures that robots will become so human-like in appearance, function and personality that many people will fall in love with them, have sex with them and even marry them.

"It may sound a little weird, but it isn't," Levy said. "Love and sex with robots are inevitable."

Sex with robots in 5 years
Levy argues that psychologists have identified roughly a dozen basic reasons why people fall in love, "and almost all of them could apply to human-robot relationships. For instance, one thing that prompts people to fall in love are similarities in personality and knowledge, and all of this is programmable. Another reason people are more likely to fall in love is if they know the other person likes them, and that's programmable too."

In 2006, Henrik Christensen, founder of the European Robotics Research Network, predicted that people will be having sex with robots within five years, and Levy thinks that's quite likely. There are companies that already sell realistic sex dolls, "and it's just a matter of adding some electronics to them to add some vibration," he said, or endowing the robots with a few audio responses. "That's fairly primitive in terms of robotics, but the technology is already there."

As software becomes more advanced and the relationship between humans and robots becomes more personal, marriage could result. "One hundred years ago, interracial marriage and same-sex marriages were illegal in the United States. Interracial marriage has been legal now for 50 years, and same-sex marriage is legal in some parts of the states," Levy said. "There has been this trend in marriage where each partner gets to make their own choice of who they want to be with."

"The question is not if this will happen, but when," Levy said. "I am convinced the answer is much earlier than you think."

When and where it'll happen
Levy predicts Massachusetts will be the first jurisdiction to legalize human-robot marriage. "Massachusetts is more liberal than most other jurisdictions in the United States and has been at the forefront of same-sex marriage," Levy said. "There's also a lot of high-tech research there at places like MIT."

Although roboticist Ronald Arkin at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta does not think human-robot marriages will be legal anywhere by 2050, "anything's possible. And just because it's not legal doesn't mean people won't try it," he told LiveScience.

"Humans are very unusual creatures," Arkin said. "If you ask me if every human will want to marry a robot, my answer is probably not. But will there be a subset of people? There are people ready right now to marry sex toys."

The main benefit of human-robot marriage could be to make people who otherwise could not get married happier, "people who find it hard to form relationships, because they are extremely shy, or have psychological problems, or are just plain ugly or have unpleasant personalities," Levy said. "Of course, such people who completely give up the idea of forming relationships with other people are going to be few and far between, but they will be out there."

Ethical questions
The possibility of sex with robots could prove a mixed bag for humanity. For instance, robot sex could provide an outlet for criminal sexual urges. "If you have pedophiles and you let them use a robotic child, will that reduce the incidence of them abusing real children, or will it increase it?" Arkin asked. "I don't think anyone has the answers for that yet — that's where future research needs to be done."

Keeping a robot for sex could reduce human prostitution and the problems that come with it. However, "in a marriage or other relationship, one partner could be jealous or consider it infidelity if the other used a robot," Levy said. "But who knows, maybe some other relationships could welcome a robot. Instead of a woman saying, 'Darling, not tonight, I have a headache,' you could get 'Darling, I have a headache, why not use your robot?' "


Guess you better get ready Strell!! :D

Maynard
10-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Wow I just saw this on "delisted" yesterday

http://www.realdoll.com/


warning Link is NSFW

FOUND it

charlie sheen likes sex with dolls.

http://dlisted.com/node/16294

PlumeNoir
10-12-2007, 09:14 PM
Wow I just saw this on "delisted" yesterday

http://www.realdoll.com/


warning Link is NSFW

EVer seen one in person? They're kinda creepy looking.

I keep joking with my wife that I'm going to get the Annie May one and dress it up and talk to it like it was a real woman.

Xevious
10-12-2007, 09:14 PM
There is one positive thing about this: The population will decrease.

mykevermin
10-12-2007, 09:23 PM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.

lokizz
10-12-2007, 09:24 PM
hey as long as i can get a robot babe like Chi then its well worth whatever the cost may be. except for the whole not being able to put it to her thing. hope the robot chicks all have functioning inputs. and mute buttons.......

bigdaddy
10-12-2007, 09:29 PM
All I can think of is Futurama and the.... "DON'T HAVE SEX WITH ROBOTS!!!" school health video. :)

Magehart
10-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Electric Gonorrhea; The noisy killer.

Mike23
10-12-2007, 09:49 PM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.

Mr. Vermin, you've been fined one half-credit for violating the verbal morality statute.

ITDEFX
10-12-2007, 09:53 PM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.


you don't know HOW to use the 3 seashells??? LOLZ... perhaps someone can TEACH you how to use them?
;)

jaykrue
10-12-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah.................. I think Henrik Christensen is a bit late. Humans are already fucking machines (http://www.fuckingmachines.com/) (NSFW).

jlseal
10-12-2007, 10:16 PM
woohoo, bring on the sexbots

Kirin Lemon
10-12-2007, 10:16 PM
All I can think of is Futurama and the.... "DON'T HAVE SEX WITH ROBOTS!!!" school health video. :)
Have you guessed the name of Billy's planet? IT WAS EARTH!

DON'T. DATE. ROBOTS.

(Brought to you by... The~ Space Pope.)

beane316
10-12-2007, 10:34 PM
I want to play with my Monrobot

Stoneage
10-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Have you guessed the name of Billy's planet? IT WAS EARTH!

DON'T. DATE. ROBOTS.

(Brought to you by... The~ Space Pope.)
And wasn't it some horrible creature or something?

Man, Futurama can't come back too soon. "I'm walking on sunshine....whoah oh!"

ITDEFX
10-12-2007, 10:37 PM
woohoo, bring on the sexbots
http://www.agirlsworld.com/rachel/beat-street/reviews/pix/ai7.jpg

tehweezner
10-12-2007, 10:58 PM
the japanese are working on this 24/7

bigdaddy
10-12-2007, 11:04 PM
She's my sexbot and her name is Sony!

Ikohn4ever
10-12-2007, 11:17 PM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.


from stallone's interview on aintitcool.com

9. For the love of all that is good and Holy.

How do you use the 3 seashells?!

Louis Saucedo
Dallas, Texas

OK, this may be bordering on the grotesque, but the way it was explained to me by the writer is you hold two seashells like chopsticks, pull gently and scrape what’s left with the third. You asked for it…. Be careful what you ask for, sorry.

camoor
10-12-2007, 11:30 PM
EVer seen one in person? They're kinda creepy looking.

Oh I don't know. The one in Maynard's avatar is pretty hot.

Rig
10-12-2007, 11:44 PM
She's my sexbot and her name is Sony!

I believe it was: sexbox.

thegarageband
10-13-2007, 12:01 AM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.


Demolition Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sonicfreak5
10-13-2007, 12:19 AM
this world is going downhill in so many ways. hopefully ill get to live a full life.
were all gonna be dead in the next 200 or so years. :(. im being serious.

Predator21281
10-13-2007, 12:22 AM
this world is going downhill in so many ways. hopefully ill get to live a full life.
were all gonna be dead in the next 200 or so years. :(. im being serious.Sex robot world takeover. Man, what a way to go.

Skylander7
10-13-2007, 01:02 AM
The Ned prank call to RealDoll from the Bubba the Love Sponge show (Howard 101 on Sirius) is priceless. To quote "Is there any way I could get three tits, one black and one white, in case I get crazy and cut one off so there'll be a spare??"

Or "What kind of pubic hair would you prefer?", where Ned's response was "Do you know what Don King's hair looks like? I'd like it sticking out about that far."

prmononoke
10-13-2007, 01:54 AM
EVer seen one in person? They're kinda creepy looking.

I keep joking with my wife that I'm going to get the Annie May one and dress it up and talk to it like it was a real woman.

Oh wow, I just mentioned Anna Mae (not Annie May) to some friends about four hours ago. Weird.

NamelessMC
10-13-2007, 03:47 AM
Didn't the guy in Serenity have a hologram computer program wife?

Wasn't there also one of those in another movie?

I think the guy from "War at home" came out in a movie where he had a hologram wife? lol

Demolition Man
10-13-2007, 04:48 AM
Demolition Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

????

Allnatural
10-13-2007, 10:25 AM
Wow I just saw this on "delisted" yesterday

http://www.realdoll.com/


warning Link is NSFW

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Given the preponderance of anime fans here, I would think that [url]www.orient-doll.com (http://dlisted.com/node/16294) would be more appropriate. ;)

Strell
10-13-2007, 10:42 AM
I'm no sex bot.

I'm a love machine.

Punk_Raven
10-13-2007, 10:49 AM
I think that sex bots will reach about the same audience as sex dolls.

Seriously, marrying a robot? Why? What benefits do you get from that?

Xevious
10-13-2007, 12:05 PM
If scientists want to perfect a sex robot, they will have to solve the problem of the Uncanny Valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)

This is a problem currently plaguing 3D artists right now.

Stoneage
10-13-2007, 12:14 PM
If scientists want to perfect a sex robot, they will have to solve the problem of the Uncanny Valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)

This is a problem currently plaguing 3D artists right now.
So the issue at hand is....how best to plow the uncanny valley? Sweet...

sblymnlcrymnl
10-13-2007, 12:23 PM
If scientists want to perfect a sex robot, they will have to solve the problem of the Uncanny Valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)

This is a problem currently plaguing 3D artists right now. Zombies. :lol:

Apossum
10-13-2007, 01:01 PM
robot knees are too sharp

bigdaddy
10-13-2007, 08:07 PM
I think that sex bots will reach about the same audience as sex dolls.

Seriously, marrying a robot? Why? What benefits do you get from that?

Better head?

camoor
10-13-2007, 08:09 PM
Better head?
That was great in Arrested Dev when Buster started sleeping with the iRobot vaccuum.

I'm half machine!!

http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/03/buster.jpg

Jeoff
10-13-2007, 08:36 PM
Give me a lifelike Miley Cyrus sex robot and I will make no more attempts at reproduction in my entire life.

MillerTime2523
10-13-2007, 08:38 PM
I believe it was: sexbox.
aww you beat me to it :lol:

Killer Rabbit
10-13-2007, 09:19 PM
I just want to know how to use the three seashells.

That was the best quote from that movie. It was a pretty average movie overall, but that quote is awesome.

ananag112
10-13-2007, 10:22 PM
Well my degree in robotics should come in handy then...

lordxixor101
10-15-2007, 09:54 AM
I think that sex bots will reach about the same audience as sex dolls.

Seriously, marrying a robot? Why? What benefits do you get from that?

Punk, I'm not sure you're thinking this all the way through. Assume that the robots get to the point where they are passably human (meaning, if you were to spend 2-3 hours with them, you wouldn't know if they were human or not, only if you spent every day with them would it be obvious.

How many workaholics are out there who are barely at home, maybe see their family 5 hours a week or less? The family is mainly a status symbol, and he's married mainly to have a woman to bring to some business functions with him. These marriages now usually end in divorce, and are insanely expensive on the executive (and I believe this will start hitting women executives in the next 10 or so years).

Sure, a typial marriage is about compromise, something you will never have with a robot. Yet, I think there are lots of people who get married for different reasons where a robot might make a ton of sense (really, look at hollywood, women get so much plastic surgery now to stay eye candy, they are borderline robots now, are they really human anyway?).

Something to think about, I think we are definitely moving to a time where this happens. I don't expect it to be fully accepted for a long time, but I do expect it to start, and you know a big scandal will hit that someone is a robot at some point.

Though, the pedophile thing won't happen. For this to work, the robot child will have to be realistic, and that isn't right. It'll be creepy enough that there will be 80 year old guys with 18 year old looking bots, I can't imagine society ever accepting pedophile bots, much like pedophiles don't buy sex toys like young kids now (at least not openly).

bigdaddy
10-15-2007, 10:45 AM
Didn't the guy in Serenity have a hologram computer program wife?

Wasn't there also one of those in another movie?

I think the guy from "War at home" came out in a movie where he had a hologram wife? lol

The 6th Day about human cloning and had The Governator in it.

I watch a lot of movies. :)

camoor
10-15-2007, 03:22 PM
Xians are in a pickle. I mean - what does the Bible say about robot sex?

camoor
10-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Didn't the guy in Serenity have a hologram computer program wife?

Wasn't there also one of those in another movie?

I think the guy from "War at home" came out in a movie where he had a hologram wife? lol

Yeah it was the Sixth Day.

Dr Gaius seems to have a thing for the Cylons.

Of course when they look like that, who can blame him.