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Fatesealer
07-29-2004, 08:33 AM
What games have you played that are just unplayable to the point where you never care if you see the ending?
My list:
Megaman Network Transmission - Random chips given before a stage... no true 'robot master' weapon obtaining... limited shots with the chips... haphazard stages... BORING... the MMAC easily smokes it...
Star Wars Bounty Hunter: Never got past stage 2 where I had to find the stolen hovercraft... it ended up with me running around the city for 15 minutes, even with a guide... and no dice...
Wshakspear
07-29-2004, 08:43 AM
Drake - 2 guns + no aim = 1 on 1 wall fighting
(and i agree with MNTransmission...crap)
Cornfedwb
07-29-2004, 08:47 AM
One for PS1.. terrible controls, camera and obscene difficulty. I tried that game 4 or 5 times and gave up when I never did get past level 2. 40 enemies coming at you at once when you cant see a single one of them = problems.
hutno
07-29-2004, 08:49 AM
ONe deffnitely way playable granted the camera could get weird in a few select situations but deffinitely not unplayable as a whole
Tenacious D
07-29-2004, 08:52 AM
McFarlane's Evil Prophecy sucks. I played for about 10 minutes (5 of which was incredibly boring story with text and no voice-overs). Maybe I didn't give the game enough time, but I doubt it. I think it might be the worst game I've ever played.
I agree that SW Bounty Hunter sucks too.
I bought Alter Echo for $5 but couldn't get into it.
Shinobi, Altered Beast, and Gauntlet Dark Legacy all on GBA sucked IMHO.
Cornfedwb
07-29-2004, 08:54 AM
ONe deffnitely way playable granted the camera could get weird in a few select situations but deffinitely not unplayable as a whole
From IGN's review.
Running down a corridor is fine, but controlling John Cain in any other environment is a challenge. His movement is almost too loose, resulting in missed jumps that should be incredibly easy. After dying numerous times on something that shouldn't be a problem, the game begins to get frustrating.
Which leads me to One's main problem: it's too damn hard. Any good game has a steady learning curve: it's easy at the beginning, so you get to know the control and how the game works, and then steadily gets more difficult. One starts tough and gets worse. But the really mean thing about One is the way you die. One makes you learn to do new things so you will have to die 20 times to figure it out. And the save points are spaced incredibly far apart so you have to keep starting over. Note to future developers: this is not fun.
Trust me, the game is near unplayable.
And... this is not terrible games, its unplayable games.. big difference.
WildWop
07-29-2004, 10:08 AM
Played RE: Dead Aim for about 15 or 20 minutes yesterday, and I really don't have any motivation to pick it up again. It seems as though it is a shooter without the frantic action (what makes shooters FUN), and an RE game without the false sense of fear instilled by the lack of seeing anything in the camera angle the designer chose. No offscreen zombies? Actually knowing where and what you're shooting at? What kind of RE experience is that?
Did I mention that it took about 10 minutes before I saw my first zombie? And there wasn't even a cool cutscene to introduce the zombie! Where's the brain munching?
snotknocker
07-29-2004, 10:11 AM
Batman Dark Tomorrow -That game is cheese with a capital "C"
Tromack
07-29-2004, 10:24 AM
Cygirls. The controls are terrible, the camera is extremely claustrophobic and hard to control, and the game is just incomprehensible.
SilveRaven
07-29-2004, 10:29 AM
I would have to say Bouncer, mainly because there really wasn't any time where you played :wink:
I love a good Movie scene, but I would also like to play.
daphatty
07-29-2004, 10:33 AM
Megaman and Bass (GBA). Very disappointing. Controls were sluggish at best.
Animal Crossing. I just didn't get it. I was instantly bored with it. What the hell is that idiot on the train in the beginning talking about?
Eternal Ring. Worst. Game. Ever.
digioverload
07-29-2004, 10:36 AM
Wow, a lot more than I thought. :oops:
GBC:
Kirby's Tilt 'n' Tumble
GBA:
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul
PC:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
PS1:
Digimon World 3
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
PS2:
Silent Hill 2
Xevious
07-29-2004, 12:22 PM
I would have to list the 2nd half of Genma Onishima for the Xbox (which is different from the PS2 version).
half life for ps2, makes me want to hurl. for that matter, any game that can't keep a constant frame rate.
dracula
07-29-2004, 12:32 PM
Wow, a lot more than I thought. :oops:
GBC:
Kirby's Tilt 'n' Tumble
GBA:
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul
PC:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
PS1:
Digimon World 3
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
PS2:
Silent Hill 2
just curious, what is wrong with silent hill 2? i like the first one a lot, what is so bad about the second?
Backlash
07-29-2004, 12:34 PM
Golgo 13 for the NES. Lots of people liked that game but I hated it.
Also Spelunker for the NES. The controls and collision detection were horrible and totally unforgiving. I never made it past the second level (of course I haven't played it since I was like 10).
Duo_Maxwell
07-29-2004, 12:36 PM
Wow, a lot more than I thought. :oops:
GBC:
Kirby's Tilt 'n' Tumble
GBA:
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul
PC:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
PS1:
Digimon World 3
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
PS2:
Silent Hill 2
just curious, what is wrong with silent hill 2? i like the first one a lot, what is so bad about the second?
No kidding, I'd say Yu-GI-Oh, Spyro: YoD, and Silent Hill 2 were all decent games, let alone very playable.
BigHow
07-29-2004, 12:37 PM
Played RE: Dead Aim for about 15 or 20 minutes yesterday, and I really don't have any motivation to pick it up again. It seems as though it is a shooter without the frantic action (what makes shooters FUN), and an RE game without the false sense of fear instilled by the lack of seeing anything in the camera angle the designer chose. No offscreen zombies? Actually knowing where and what you're shooting at? What kind of RE experience is that?
Did I mention that it took about 10 minutes before I saw my first zombie? And there wasn't even a cool cutscene to introduce the zombie! Where's the brain munching?
You've got to get a little into it before it picks up speed. I thought it ended up being a nice blend of RE horror and shooter franticness. You've got crazy zombies running at you like a normal shooter, but you've also got extremely limited amounts of bullets. Of course, I had the added benefit of playing with a friend - one of us used the Guncon to shoot, the other the controller to move.
The game is freakin' hard tho. The first few times, we barely found a typewriter before we were slaughtered.
punqsux
07-29-2004, 12:38 PM
back to the future 3 for genesis
Dead of Knight
07-29-2004, 12:40 PM
PS2:
Silent Hill 2
That is complete bullshit and you know it.
As for unplayable games...
Batman Beyond (PSone)
And of course Drake
chess380
07-29-2004, 02:06 PM
Xbox:Terminator rise of the machines
AlbinoNinja
07-29-2004, 03:55 PM
Rainbow Six for the GameBoyColor
They tried so hard to copy the real version, but all you have to do is run in and shoot people.
Even worse, some levels require night vision goggles, and you cant walk while using them.
YuGiOh: The sacred cards. Sometimes, the computer would screw up the calculations and make such dumb choices as a 2000attack monster getting killed by a 300attack monster.
MY CYBER ALLIGATOR WAS ONCE DESTROYED BY A KURIBOH!!!
even worse the computer seems to know when these errors will happen
Tromack
07-29-2004, 03:59 PM
Cygirls. That game is terrible. The controls are crappy and the camera is very claustrophobic and impossible to control. All in all a game that is unplayable.
deathcabforcutie
07-29-2004, 04:05 PM
Wow, a lot more than I thought. :oops:
GBC:
Kirby's Tilt 'n' Tumble
GBA:
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul
PC:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
PS1:
Digimon World 3
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
PS2:
Silent Hill 2
tilt and tumble was an extremely fun game.. i didnt find it unplayable at all..
jputahraptor
07-29-2004, 04:19 PM
Batman Dark Tomorrow is the worst game i've ever played, half the villians are taken out in the cgi and the other half are completely lame.
Also anything Simpsons related.
I severely disagree with SW: Bounty Hunter. I never could get through the last few levels but the game was a lot of fun and it had a jet-pack which alone qualifies it for greatness.
Dok Diamond
07-29-2004, 04:24 PM
I find the new simpsons games fun, but my lil brothers ed,edd, n eddy for gba sucks
hutno
07-29-2004, 04:30 PM
mtv skateboarding for ps1 terriable load times + terriable graphics and controls makes it impossiable to play
bfg9k
07-29-2004, 04:34 PM
Golgo 13 for the NES. Lots of people liked that game but I hated it.
I liked it back in it's day and played it start to finish many times. I tried playing it just recently but didn't last five minutes :)
BigDirty
07-29-2004, 04:36 PM
Speaking of unplayable skateboarding games:
Simpson's Skateboarding for PS2. I got it as a free rental from Hollywood Video a couple years ago, I still want my 2 hours of my life back!
hiccupleftovers
07-29-2004, 04:47 PM
I can't believe no one has said this yet, but Stake: Fortune Fighters, but then again I am probably one of the only people that ever bought it. It runs the gamut on every aspect of a game that can make it crap, from the graphics to sound to characcter animation, even the characters themselves are generic knock offs of Street Fighter characters like the green one that looks like Blanka. It houses bad graphics, bad animation, horrible frame right, bad textures, horrible gameplay, clunky controls, need I continue. Truly, an unplayable game.
Nirvanaguy777
07-29-2004, 04:51 PM
dark cloud 2 ps2- too fucking hard and annoying beyond belief
harry potter and the sorcerors stone ps1- got bored and never beat it, same for digimon world 1
robin hood defender of the crown- not explanation needed
Nirvanaguy777
07-29-2004, 04:53 PM
Rainbow Six for the GameBoyColor
They tried so hard to copy the real version, but all you have to do is run in and shoot people.
Even worse, some levels require night vision goggles, and you cant walk while using them.
YuGiOh: The sacred cards. Sometimes, the computer would screw up the calculations and make such dumb choices as a 2000attack monster getting killed by a 300attack monster.
MY CYBER ALLIGATOR WAS ONCE DESTROYED BY A KURIBOH!!!
even worse the computer seems to know when these errors will happen
thats not bad calculations the game was also based on the monsters element, so kuriboh was probably the element that kills alligator sword automatically, but besides that yea the game is fucking terrible, I beat it out of boredem.
Rodego
07-29-2004, 04:53 PM
ET for Atari is the worst ever. I still have no idea what the hell you are supposed to do in that game
hiccupleftovers
07-29-2004, 04:58 PM
Digimon world 1 is another example of an unplayable game. the graphics are so-so, when you move it is very clunky, the puzzles are stupid, you don't seem to be going anywhere in the game, battles are boring. I agree with what you said nirvanaguy777 it is a bad/unplayable game. I had nearly forgotten about it. I think I'm repressing my memories of it.
kelso
07-29-2004, 04:58 PM
N64: Superman
coolcps
07-29-2004, 05:02 PM
Dark Cloud 2 and Silent Hill 2 are both great games, whoever mentioned those are crazy. Also I just went through Eternal Ring last week and thought it was a lot better than what people said about it, then again I did own Kings Field 1 and 2 (got 1 for 2.99 and the other for 4.99).
Tromack
07-29-2004, 05:03 PM
Custer's Revenge. Now, I like watching Indians getting raped as much as the next man (which hopefully is not so much liking but more of sickened disgust), but that game is just impossible to play.
Tromack
07-29-2004, 05:06 PM
dark cloud 2 ps2- too shaq-fuing hard and annoying beyond belief
I agree. I heard all of these great things about Dark Cloud 2, but I was just disappointed by it. The controls are crappy, I hate the inventing system, and it is just ungodly hard.
mariomarino
07-29-2004, 06:47 PM
Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness, totally sucked. I even waited and got it for $9.99 I didnt even get past the training level before I took it EBgames and got $3 in trade for it. Boy did EBgames get screwed.
JSweeney
07-29-2004, 06:56 PM
Sacred for the PC. Unless you go to thier website and get a patch, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get past one of the stages without cheating. They actually LEAVE OUT a key item that triggers the scenario that lets you leave the stage. Without cheating, you're doomed to stay in that level FOREVER!
chosen1s
07-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Golgo 13 for the NES - totally agree with whoever posted earlier. I liked it until the "dungeon" section, which sucked so bad I gave up.
Battletoads for NES - Yes, an AWESOME game, but so so SO SO SO SO hard I'm still bitter about it. I have gone back and beaten every game I ever wanted to beat except this one. I never want to see it again.
Madden (Any of them) - Sorry, but the "realism" sucked all the fun out of it for me to the point I didn't want to play anymore. I can honestly say Madden is singlehandedly responsible for the death of my enjoyment of football video games. I know you guys love it, flame away, I openly admit to lacking Ditka-like knowledge of the intricacies of the sport and the complexity sucked all the fun out to the point where I haven't picked one up since probably Madden '99.
KingDox
07-29-2004, 08:42 PM
OMG Batman Dark Tomorrow, was so bad. I couldn't belive it was as bad as it was.
gamereviewgod
07-29-2004, 09:14 PM
Holosseum by Sega. Arcade game. Boot it up on MAME and have fun!
bhfgamer
07-29-2004, 09:20 PM
Worms 3D- worst game ever. I loved the 2D versions but in 3D it is impossible to aim and it is a poor excuse for a game. Worth about....nothing
digioverload
07-29-2004, 10:51 PM
Some people seem to be bewildered by my choices, so I'll explain a few of them.
Silent Hill 2 (PS2)
I heard it was good and I wanted to give the survival horror genre a try, but after playing for a few hours I found the entire concept of survival horror to be extremely stupid. Solving simple puzzles that are stretched out with backtracking while avoiding enemies is not fun to me. Making combat purposely slow and difficult just seems stupid. I don't understand how the entire genre is supposed to be fun. That doesn't mean the game is bad, but for me at least, this game is completely unplayable.
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul (GBA)
I get irritated that no matter how well I do, there's always a chance that bad luck will suddenly cause me to lose. Combine that with that fact that the gameplay almost never changes in the least, and there's not incentive to continue. "Hooray, you won a battle! Now you get to do the same exact thing you were doing when you first began this game!"
Spyro: Year of the Dragon (PS1)
I loved playing this game, I just have no desire to finish it. I included it because this thread is about games "you never care if you see the ending". To get to the final boss, you have to collect a lot of something (I forgot what) that you never had a reason to collect before in the game. So suddenly at the end I found that I was going to have to go back and replay through levels searching and searching to find what I needed. That didn't really seem like much fun to me, and since the endings of Spyro games never seemed that great, I didn't really care if I finished it or not. No matter how many times I play that game, I doubt I'll ever finish it. The game was fun, but the extra work required for the ending doesn't seem worth it.
Kirby's Tilt 'n' Tumble (GBC)
Whenever I play this game, all I end up doing is fighting against the terrible controls. If it wasn't for the badly-implemented tilting you had to do, the game would have been very easy and I could have beaten it with no problem. I've never found fighting against bad controls to be fun, and I'm having the same problem with the terrible combat in Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time right now, which I currently hate.
There have been lots of games I hate that I still finished due to cheating to get through with them quickly, such as Digimon World, Dark Cloud, and Dr. Muto. But my Gameshark won't work for Spyro:YotD or Silent Hill 2 for some reason, and I don't have a cheat device for my Gameboy.
ElwoodCuse
07-30-2004, 12:41 AM
Want "unplayable"? Remember that Battlecruiser 3000 AD abortion from Derek Smart DEREK SMART DEREK SMART a couple of years ago? Out of the box, you couldn't even run it.
epobirs
07-30-2004, 05:32 AM
ET for Atari is the worst ever. I still have no idea what the hell you are supposed to do in that game
Find the landfill and jump in. Victory!
epobirs
07-30-2004, 05:38 AM
Dark Cloud 2 and Silent Hill 2 are both great games, whoever mentioned those are crazy. Also I just went through Eternal Ring last week and thought it was a lot better than what people said about it, then again I did own Kings Field 1 and 2 (got 1 for 2.99 and the other for 4.99).
I agree. I've enjoyed all of From's FPRPG games except Shadow Tower. I could never get past the first floor. Going to GameFAQs was no help. There is supposed to be a PS2 sequel that may already be out in Japan but no word of a US release.
BTW, did you ever encounter the Queen Wasp with the 10-foot extensible stinger? You have to really dig into Eternal Ring to find it.
I can recall other games that had instruction manuals that appeared to make sense but much of what the manual covered didn't seem to actually be in the game. Valkyrie Profile, Heroes of Might & Magic, etc.
jimbodan
07-30-2004, 05:40 AM
Jet Grind Radio for GBA was unplayable, at least for me due to the extremely crappy controls. It was too bad too because the game looked fairly good and reminded me of the old dreamcast version.
hasaki_cb
07-30-2004, 06:57 AM
Sacred for the PC. Unless you go to thier website and get a patch, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get past one of the stages without cheating. They actually LEAVE OUT a key item that triggers the scenario that lets you leave the stage. Without cheating, you're doomed to stay in that level FOREVER!
Ugh! Sacred was the worst game experience I ever had... I played the demo for it and the game ran flawlessly. I finally get the game after their shipping delay and it wouldn't even run on my PC...when it eventually did run I would lose most of the character/item textures shortly after starting so it was impossible to play.
Worst of all, at the time they suggested running without the 1.15 patch to fix the texture problem...but the stupid copy protection refused to let me run the game after the uninstall/reinstall...even if I put 1.15 back on.
I haven't touched the game since then.
Digimon World 1 wasn't unplayable, I rented it and liked it a lot and even though I don't like digimon anymore, I thought about getting the newest one out.
donssword
07-30-2004, 02:21 PM
The Fifth Element for the PS1 --- huuuurrrgh!!
crazytalkx
07-30-2004, 02:22 PM
Any Tomb Raider game
BlueStorm781
07-30-2004, 08:06 PM
Vanishing Point on both PS1 and DC were almost damn-near unplayable due to the oversensitve oversteering, unrealisting physics, shoddy collision reaction and difficulty.
BlueStorm781
07-30-2004, 08:10 PM
Any Tomb Raider game
Oh I second that one. I'm suprised I forgot about that. The play control is awful and unintuitive, and I've never spent more than 30 minutes playing any TR game. For some reason, the developers really thought this awful scheme worked, as they've used it six times in the game's history. Even Capcom offered some change in the controls with Resident Evil: Code Veronica. How they see that this control scheme is optimal for playing TR is one I'll never figure out.
Kaijufan
07-30-2004, 08:36 PM
Some people seem to be bewildered by my choices, so I'll explain a few of them.
Silent Hill 2 (PS2)
I heard it was good and I wanted to give the survival horror genre a try, but after playing for a few hours I found the entire concept of survival horror to be extremely stupid. Solving simple puzzles that are stretched out with backtracking while avoiding enemies is not fun to me. Making combat purposely slow and difficult just seems stupid. I don't understand how the entire genre is supposed to be fun. That doesn't mean the game is bad, but for me at least, this game is completely unplayable.
I agree with that, except I played the Resident Evil remake on the Gamecube and found it to be unplayable. How anyone could give it a good review is beyond me.
Horrible camera angles + horrible controls + horrible combat + limited saves + boring puzzles + limited inventory =/= a good game.
coolcps
07-30-2004, 08:52 PM
Dark Cloud 2 and Silent Hill 2 are both great games, whoever mentioned those are crazy. Also I just went through Eternal Ring last week and thought it was a lot better than what people said about it, then again I did own Kings Field 1 and 2 (got 1 for 2.99 and the other for 4.99).
I agree. I've enjoyed all of From's FPRPG games except Shadow Tower. I could never get past the first floor. Going to GameFAQs was no help. There is supposed to be a PS2 sequel that may already be out in Japan but no word of a US release.
BTW, did you ever encounter the Queen Wasp with the 10-foot extensible stinger? You have to really dig into Eternal Ring to find it.
I can recall other games that had instruction manuals that appeared to make sense but much of what the manual covered didn't seem to actually be in the game. Valkyrie Profile, Heroes of Might & Magic, etc.
Valkyrie Profile was a little confusing, but I thought the manual did an ok job. As for in Eternal ring I fought all of the Queen wasps and destroyed the nests to get the Dragon Eggs. Eternal Ring was way too easy though, I never had to use any of the better healing items and I only died once, thats because I didnt know you could fall off into the water on the beach at the very beginning. I also went through the secret dungeon, that was pretty cool I thought.
One game that I think isnt unplayable, but really annoying to play is the SNES LOTR game. I thought it was fun and the whole multitap thing was sweet, but I had a full notebook of passwords, why no save function!?!?!?! Also it was hard to find out where to go because places looked the same.
FriskyTanuki
07-31-2004, 02:35 AM
Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt - I had the BB unlimited rentals card when I rented it and I regreted even renting it for one day. The only reason I decided to rent it is because there were two good songs on the soundtrack. After about 10 minutes I knew I had made a huge mistake, I was glad that I could return it, but still wanted my time back.
jer7583
07-31-2004, 04:52 AM
Morrowind(Xbox) This game crashes randomly and gives dirty disc errors consistently.. unplayable, unless you're lucky.
Anything using the Power Glove(NES) Yes, the power glove is "so bad" I had super glove ball, and that almost worked. Playing any other game with it is not unlike trying to steer a car while locked inside the trunk.
Star Wars: masters of teras kasi (PSOne)-Crap. Thats all it is. Crap. If there were a cd filled with nothing but boy george, cyndi lauper, david hasselloff, micheal bolton, and phil collins songs that inserted flaming bees into your inner ear, it would be a better use of a CD.
kristianator
07-31-2004, 06:29 AM
final fantasy tactics advance. and it pisses me off because i loved final fantasy tactics. it's one of my favorites.
xenosaga. i probably didn't give this one too much of a chance, but all i remember is that i popped this baby open at 3am attempting to play it and falling asleep with the ps2 on. haven't played it since.
i don't think i've enjoyed any tomb raider game.
sonic shuffle. think mario party, subtract the fun, and add a whole lot of load times.
i have aquaman sealed from the cc sale, but i'm scared to open it. for one thing, aquaman sucks. secondly, i heard the game pretty much is trash. and lastly, aquaman sucks.
AlucardDE
07-31-2004, 06:40 AM
In regards to the game ONE-I really enjoyed that game. My friend and I played it constantly. He completed it but I could not finish the next to the last level. Problems aside, I dug the game.
Unplayable IMHO:
Perfect Weapon(PS1) - HORRIBLE camera angles made it unplayable for me.
E.T. (Atari 2600)-after a minute (yes that long), I couldn't believe the piece of garbage that was in my Atari 2600.
That's all I can think of at this moment.
GuilewasNK
07-31-2004, 08:01 AM
One for PS1.. terrible controls, camera and obscene difficulty. I tried that game 4 or 5 times and gave up when I never did get past level 2. 40 enemies coming at you at once when you cant see a single one of them = problems.
Man I'm glad I only paid $1.99 for One. That is one of the most unplayable games I ever ....uh....played. Total suck-osity in the control department.
Another POS is Midway's Greatest Arcade hits on GBA. It has Joust, Robotron, Sinistar and Defender. The developer butchered the utter HELL out of the controls on Joust, Robotron and Sinistar. None of those games control anything like the arcade. I can't say much about Defender because I don't recall playing the arcade version before.
Cornfedwb
07-31-2004, 08:23 AM
final fantasy tactics advance. and it pisses me off because i loved final fantasy tactics. it's one of my favorites.
xenosaga. i probably didn't give this one too much of a chance, but all i remember is that i popped this baby open at 3am attempting to play it and falling asleep with the ps2 on. haven't played it since.
Well those are both extremely far away from unplayable. In fact, personally I'd say FF:TA is the number one GBA game out, and Xenosaga is in the top 5 RPGs out in this generation. I'm assuming by you decreeing these games as unplayable.. you don't enjoy rpgs.
And people... unplayable does not mean 'I dont like it' or 'the graphics are terrible' or 'its a terrible game'.. unplayable means something is done so poorly (controls, bugs, etc) that the game is basically not-able-to-be-played.. thusly unplayable.
DenisDFat
07-31-2004, 11:37 AM
Hydlide
every Resident evil game ever
every fps ever
p.s. Xenosaga is in the top 5 worst RPGs this or any gen
JSweeney
07-31-2004, 12:06 PM
Hydlide
every Resident evil game ever
every fps ever
p.s. Xenosaga is in the top 5 worst RPGs this or any gen
i never agreed with the people who said you were a troll before.
This comment, however, makes me think differently.
jer7583
07-31-2004, 01:32 PM
FFTA-Awesome GBA Game.. I didnt' finish it , but I spent about 60 hours with it, figured I got my money's worth.
XenoSaga-Spent about 40 hours before passing out due to boredom. I can see how this game would be unplayable to some people.. the cutscenes are rediculous, and so is the story(It seems to be a trend in the xeno-series) I liked it a lot more than Xenogears, but I would classify it as unplayable for some, simply because you're only playing about 25% of the game.
Im just glad I got back about $45 credit for Xenosaga at EB.
DenisDFat
07-31-2004, 03:25 PM
If hating a stupid yet super-pretentious game, games with horrid control schemes and games with inherently flawed perspectives makes me a troll, then sign me up.
PawnTakesKing
07-31-2004, 03:43 PM
Batman: Dark Tomorrow. Awful, awful game...though my friends and I had a lot of laughs with the first level. In this game Batman can:
- run around like a kid with down syndrome.
- kick no higher than his kneecap.
- fall off a building into what looks like a pool of Skittles.
- die, get back up for 2 seconds, then die again.
- use smoke bombs that suck.
- handcuff EVERY FREAKING ENEMY or face getting the crap beat out of you upon their resurrection.
- not jump a chain link fence.
Ah, yes...good times, good times...
JSweeney
07-31-2004, 04:23 PM
"Games with inherently flawed perspectives"
Never mind that they've driven the industry, both on hardware and software fronts.
Never mind that they've defined and redefined gameplay dynamics and control schemes time and time again.
"Every FPS ever" is unplayable? That's so far beyond laughable that it's pathetic. Just because you don't like them it's just silly to place that judgement on an entire catagory of games.
Look at the metrics that are used to judge the overall quality of a game...
Sales and critical acclaim. There are FPS games that score ridiculously high in both metrics.
More and more, as I look at you're posts, you come off as one of those "counterculture" movie reviewers... you'll swear up and down that something is great so long as it's underapriciated in your eyes. Then, the second it gains any modicum of mainstream success, you'll do a compete 180 and say it's the biggest piece of crap ever.
Heaven forbid anyone ask your opinion on something that's almost universally beloved.
donssword
07-31-2004, 04:30 PM
"One" is a lke it or hate it game. While I like it, it is still, techincally, an unplayable game -- I had to use the cheat codes to finish.
If you thought some of the early level were troublesome -- like the platform jumping thru the roof tops, wait until you got into the computer/security system, full of blind jumps onto flipping platforms.
BAH! I like "One" but it was definitely unplayable.
mario23air
07-31-2004, 04:39 PM
Dino Crisis 3
Any Battle Arena Toshinden
Almost every game for the 3DO system
JoJo112
07-31-2004, 04:39 PM
I've gotta go with Oni....and Spider-Man 2 for the PC....both were utterly disgusting.....I've also gotta say Wreckless: The Yakuza Missons - Very repetitive and the worst excuse for a multiplayer i have ever seen. And just for good measure ill throw in Fur Fighters.
DenisDFat
07-31-2004, 04:46 PM
of course, you're exactly wrong
People are stupid, critics are people, sales and critical acclaim are based on stupid.
So I do not like Tetris, Marios 1-world2 , link to the past, and mega man 3 because they are pretty popular and critical darlings. Oh wait, that list includes the best games i've ever played.
I like what I like and hate what I hate.
And first person is a stupid viewpoint for video games, so I hate it.
but more than anything, i hate stupid people.
JoJo112
07-31-2004, 04:48 PM
But what youve failed to notice Mr.DFat, is that the name of this thread is Games that are unplayable...not List your opinions about games and stuff you do or dont like.
chosen1s
07-31-2004, 04:59 PM
"Games with inherently flawed perspectives"
Never mind that they've driven the industry, both on hardware and software fronts.
Never mind that they've defined and redefined gameplay dynamics and control schemes time and time again.
"Every FPS ever" is unplayable? That's so far beyond laughable that it's pathetic. Just because you don't like them it's just silly to place that judgement on an entire catagory of games.
Look at the metrics that are used to judge the overall quality of a game...
Sales and critical acclaim. There are FPS games that score ridiculously high in both metrics.
More and more, as I look at you're posts, you come off as one of those "counterculture" movie reviewers... you'll swear up and down that something is great so long as it's underapriciated in your eyes. Then, the second it gains any modicum of mainstream success, you'll do a compete 180 and say it's the biggest piece of crap ever.
Heaven forbid anyone ask your opinion on something that's almost universally beloved.
I usually don't disagree with JSweeney, but I have to on this one. I personally think the FPS's are over-rated as well. Metal Gear Solid was simply not fun to me, and I played all the way through it. Doom, Quake, etc. I recognize that there are people out there who really like this genre, but I find it to be the opposite of fun and am not motivated in the least to go beyond the first level in most games.
The perspective makes me feel like I'm in a box with a little slit in it trying to see what's around me. Imagine playing Paintball with a paper bag over your head and little eye-holes poked in the bag to see with. That's what a FPS is to me. Take off the bag, feel the sun in your face and the breeze on your cheeks, and see the whole world around you in perfect 20/20 vision. That's what going from a FPS to basically any other genre is to me as well.
After all, the question of this thread was about what games are not even worth finishing to you. I agree with this guy - for me all FPS games are not worth finishing (to me). You out there who love them, more power to you. But they hold nothing but uncomfortable claustrophobia for me and I do not get satisfaction out of beating them.
JSweeney
07-31-2004, 04:59 PM
of course, you're exactly wrong
Because you say so, right? So exactly which diety did you bump off to gain omniscience?
People are stupid, critics are people, sales and critical acclaim are based on stupid.
Right. Because you're always right, and they're always wrong, right?
Exactly what credentials do you carry that make your opinions worth more than the critics, the gamemakers, and the public at large?
So I do not like Tetris, Marios 1-world2 , link to the past, and mega man 3 because they are pretty popular and critical darlings. Oh wait, that list includes the best games i've ever played.
Hmm, Tetris has been accused of late for being "same old, same old".
The Mario series has been attacked lately due to the GBA ports of them.
Mega Man 3, while part of a storied franchise, was never the critical darling of the series.
Hmm, wow. They become underdogs and then they become "the best games you've ever played". That doesn't fit you're MO at all.
I like what I like and hate what I hate.
Yep, that's a real rigious and defensible method for the analysis of games.
And first person is a stupid viewpoint for video games, so I hate it.
It's actually a very nature and intuitive one. That's why even people who just casually play games can adapt to it so quickly.
but more than anything, i hate stupid people.
Self loathing must be a bitch.
Dok Diamond
07-31-2004, 05:02 PM
Resident Evil for gamceube is unplayable for me, mainly because i hate the controls and my tv is dark as hell, i cant see anything.
JSweeney
07-31-2004, 05:09 PM
I usually don't disagree with JSweeney, but I have to on this one. I personally think the FPS's are over-rated as well.
There is a huge difference between overated and inherently unplayable.
I'm not saying that FPS games are the best style of games ever created, but to pass judgement on the entire catagory and say that every single FPS game is unplayable and a piece of shit is just ridiculous.
This topic wasn't what games don't you like, or what games are overated.
This topic was "Games that are unplayable". I'm sorry, but if you think all FPS games are unplayable, you don't know anything about videogames, or lost very far into the thick of your own elitist visions.
Metal Gear Solid was simply not fun to me, and I played all the way through it.
Firstly, Metal Gear Solid, for the most part, takes place in the third person, and relies more heavily on stealth than an FPS would.
Doom, Quake, etc. I recognize that there are people out there who really like this genre, but I find it to be the opposite of fun and am not motivated in the least to go beyond the first level in most games.
And this makes the entire catagory of games inherently unplayable? That's just silly.
The perspective makes me feel like I'm in a box with a little slit in it trying to see what's around me. Imagine playing Paintball with a paper bag over your head and little eye-holes poked in the bag to see with. That's what a FPS is to me. Take off the bag, feel the sun in your face and the breeze on your cheeks, and see the whole world around you in perfect 20/20 vision. That's what going from a FPS to basically any other genre is to me as well.
You don't like the genre. That's fine.
It doesn't mean the games are unplayable.
After all, the question of this thread was about what games are not even worth finishing to you.
Funny, that isn't what the topic says... it says "Games that are unplayable".
That sort of title is reserved mostly for games that are either so illconcieved or bug ridden that it is not physically or technologically possible to play the game. You not being able to muster up the desire to doesn't mean a game is unplayable.
I agree with this guy - for me all FPS games are not worth finishing (to me). You out there who love them, more power to you. But they hold nothing but uncomfortable claustrophobia for me and I do not get satisfaction out of beating them.
I still think you're framing the argument wrong. Unplayable and "not worth finishing" are two entirely different topics.
gamefreak117
07-31-2004, 05:15 PM
Pulse Racer (Xbox)
Oh god, that game is way unplayable. The controls suck hard. First I thought my Mad Catz controller was worn down, but when I plugged in my controller S, it was still unresponsive. It was a decent deal at $4.99 though, but was still lacking.
Also Black Stone: Magic & Steel (Xbox)
Got it for $4.99 during the Circuit City deal. That game was frustrating, I hated the camera and controls a lot. Whenever I would think I woukd hit an enemy, it instead hurled into either too late, or the wrong direction. Its laying there on my shelf. Lame/10.
chosen1s
08-01-2004, 01:33 AM
[b]
You don't like the genre. That's fine.
It doesn't mean the games are unplayable.
I still think you're framing the argument wrong. Unplayable and "not worth finishing" are two entirely different topics.
That's fair. I guess I need to rework my framework. Due to the flaws I mentioned before, I don't "get" the FPS genre - To the point that they are unplayable to me. I've tried Goldeneye on N64 many times with friends. I am ALWAYS the guy that everybody wants to find because I can fire a nuclear weapon at them and somehow miss, while they draw their watergun and shoot me through the eye with one shot (I know those weapons aren't in the game, my silly exaggeration).
I don't suck at video games. I've always been the guy that beats the game first or smokes his friends in Street Fighter/Smash Brothers, etc. But this FPS business. To ME, it is unplayable because my brain doens't "get" it anymore than the typical grandma "gets" the VCR. If you die or lose in a game and you can say "Oh, I died because I did xyz wrong" or "Oh, I wasn't expecting that to happen - I'll have to watch out for that" then you just need to get better. When you find yourself dying while doing everything "right" (or at least thinking you are) and you're not getting any better, that is unplayable.
FPS, to me, are unplayable. I suck at them. I tried to get better. I still suck at them. And, to be honest, until they figure out the camera thing, they're really not all that fun to watch. But that's more a preference thing than an ability thing.
Zenithian Legend
08-01-2004, 02:07 AM
so to get back on topic...
NES - Castlequest, it was interesting I must say as you travel through this castle of 100+ rooms trying to find the princess. Each screen on your tv = 1 room. The game even came with a map of the whole castle, but was still impossible to get through. I tried so many times, but it always ended with me being stuck because I didn't have the right key and could no longer progress... God I hated that game.
SNES - NCAA Final Four, true there was no ending, but Christ that game sucked.
N64 - Turok 3, the Turok series had really lost its luster at this point.
Body Harvest, I used cheats and still couldn't get through the "American" stage, the game was mind numblingly dizzying and I could take it.
GC - Turok Evolution, why I bought this game will forever remain a mystery, oh well the $8 I lost isn't the end of the world, and the multi-player isn't that bad.
There's others but those were the worst on each platform that I played at least.
Xevious
08-01-2004, 02:36 AM
ET for Atari is the worst ever. I still have no idea what the hell you are supposed to do in that game
If you are talking about the Atari 2600, I did like that game. The idea of the game is to phone home and then get on the space ship. You have to do this while evading capture from the Man!!
If there was a game that was totally unplayable for the Atari, it was Pac Man. It had the most worst graphics of any game in the history of video games. The constant blinking gave you a migrane.
Wshakspear
08-01-2004, 12:01 PM
ET for Atari is the worst ever. I still have no idea what the hell you are supposed to do in that game
If you are talking about the Atari 2600, I did like that game. The idea of the game is to phone home and then get on the space ship. You have to do this while evading capture from the Man!!
If there was a game that was totally unplayable for the Atari, it was Pac Man. It had the most worst graphics of any game in the history of video games. The constant blinking gave you a migrane.
im sorry, your post hurts my brain.
epobirs
08-01-2004, 12:25 PM
It seems certain people here have a problem with the simulation of a first person perspective.
If one is physically impaired does that count toward rating a game unplayable or are we just dealing with pebcak? I can recall a Usenet conversation with the one bizzaroid who insisted HDTV, especially with widescreen, would never catch on no matter how far down the price came so long as NTSC sets were still available for a lesser price. It turned out the guy had a impairment that narrowed his horizontal field of vision. Less than one percent of the population has this exact condition. I forget the name but it had its own nonprofit org. In theaters he has to sit towards the back and even then it's like watching a tennis game. He genuinely cannot tell the diffence between widescreen and pan & scan, so he's decided that widescreen is a ripoff conspiracy even for those with normal vision!
Someone who has trouble handling 3D first person displays blaming the game is lacking in objectivity. It brings to mind the Dud & Pete 'One-Legged Tarzan Audition' skit.
BLarR
08-01-2004, 12:51 PM
Jedi Academy-Xbox, the game completely stops when you go to swing your light saber/switch views/jump/pretty much anything that involves movement. And all this while ur offline mind you, so you can only imagine the horrers of playing people over Xbox LIVE.
Pancake Rabbit
08-01-2004, 01:04 PM
tony hawk 2 on n64 u can only see about half a skaters length in front of you...lame
MarvinisaLunatic
08-01-2004, 05:28 PM
Mission Impossible for the NES
I haven't played it in a long time, but I remember never even being able to get past one of the first levels.
PawnTakesKing
08-02-2004, 01:36 AM
Jedi Academy-Xbox, the game completely stops when you go to swing your light saber/switch views/jump/pretty much anything that involves movement. And all this while ur offline mind you, so you can only imagine the horrers of playing people over Xbox LIVE.
Um, I think this is a problem with your copy of the game, or maybe even your XBox. I played all the way through Jedi Academy without any stopping or slowdown problems whatsoever.
As far as Star Wars games go, it's on the lower tier, but still entirely playable.
epobirs
08-04-2004, 02:09 AM
Mission Impossible for the NES
I haven't played it in a long time, but I remember never even being able to get past one of the first levels.
Could be worse. The Atari 7800 version of the popular C64 Epyx title Impossible Mission had a bug that actually made it impossible to win the game. There is a fixed version on the emulation scene but the real cartridges are useless. More so than if they had the winnable version, that is.
Backlash
08-05-2004, 06:33 PM
Man how could I forget about Night Trap for the Sega CD? Worst game ever, no controls, hard to see. Of course, as a 13 year old male, I did like the idea of spying on a teenage girls' slumber party :)
gameguy22006
08-08-2004, 08:47 PM
Big Rigs Over The Road Racing for PC. Your opponents don't even move, so you win every time of course. And every time you win it says "Your Winner!' Oh, yeah the game has no sound, you fall through bridges, and can drive completely off the level.
Mookyjooky
08-08-2004, 08:51 PM
One for PS1.. terrible controls, camera and obscene difficulty. I tried that game 4 or 5 times and gave up when I never did get past level 2. 40 enemies coming at you at once when you cant see a single one of them = problems.
I just hink that one was a different kind of game. You wernt supposed to shoot and kill everything...just run throught the stage guns blazin till the end, like gungrave....I think thats the only way to beat and enjoy it. I beat "one" in one try all the way through.
WrestleCrap'sRD
08-08-2004, 08:52 PM
ONe deffnitely way playable granted the camera could get weird in a few select situations but deffinitely not unplayable as a whole
Are you guys serious? I thought that was one of the best games on the PS1! I actually beat it, too...
RD
SupremeNumNuts
08-08-2004, 08:53 PM
Lost Kingdoms - I couldnt stand it keep cards out of video games please. One exception would be that new Metal Gear Solid game for the PSP.
dracula
08-08-2004, 08:59 PM
Golgo 13 for the NES. Lots of people liked that game but I hated it.
Also Spelunker for the NES. The controls and collision detection were horrible and totally unforgiving. I never made it past the second level (of course I haven't played it since I was like 10).
golgo 13> J00
that is one of the greatest games i ever played. granted to beat the final boss, you need to be a total button masher(or have an advantage or max)
SkyGheNe
08-08-2004, 09:04 PM
final fantasy tactics advance. and it pisses me off because i loved final fantasy tactics. it's one of my favorites.
xenosaga. i probably didn't give this one too much of a chance, but all i remember is that i popped this baby open at 3am attempting to play it and falling asleep with the ps2 on. haven't played it since.
Well ffta is extremely far away from unplayable. In fact, personally I'd say FF:TA is the number one GBA game out, but Xenosaga is not in the top 5 RPGs out in this generation. I'm assuming that you are right about xenosaga because I never got to discover the shitty battle system, horrible musical score, and boring first 15 hours of gameplay...wait, did i say gameplay?
You had some spelling mistakes...I took care of those for you.
-Never4ever-
08-09-2004, 12:47 AM
ONe deffnitely way playable granted the camera could get weird in a few select situations but deffinitely not unplayable as a whole
From IGN's review.
Running down a corridor is fine, but controlling John Cain in any other environment is a challenge. His movement is almost too loose, resulting in missed jumps that should be incredibly easy. After dying numerous times on something that shouldn't be a problem, the game begins to get frustrating.
Which leads me to One's main problem: it's too damn hard. Any good game has a steady learning curve: it's easy at the beginning, so you get to know the control and how the game works, and then steadily gets more difficult. One starts tough and gets worse. But the really mean thing about One is the way you die. One makes you learn to do new things so you will have to die 20 times to figure it out. And the save points are spaced incredibly far apart so you have to keep starting over. Note to future developers: this is not fun.
Trust me, the game is near unplayable.
And... this is not terrible games, its unplayable games.. big difference.
funny, I BEAT that game. It was lame, yes, but no where near unplayable.
eldad9
08-09-2004, 12:52 AM
tilt and tumble was an extremely fun game.. i didnt find it unplayable at all..
Ever tried it with a gameboy player?
Wshakspear
08-09-2004, 12:57 AM
tilt and tumble was an extremely fun game.. i didnt find it unplayable at all..
Ever tried it with a gameboy player?
That actually sounds fun in that "Hey Look! I'm a funny idiot!" kind of way
RedvsBlue
08-09-2004, 07:11 AM
tilt and tumble was an extremely fun game.. i didnt find it unplayable at all..
Ever tried it with a gameboy player?
That would make for quite a funny tech support call. "Yeah I was playing kirby tiltntumble on my gameboy player and my gamecube jsut froze up" I wonder what they would say, I mean its even their game so its not like they could say you were misusing anything. Hmm maybe I should find out...
nein89
08-09-2004, 08:05 AM
I really, really want to say Orphen for the PS2. But I actually finished it, so I guess I can't. No matter how much you enjoy spiting your friends, this game is not worth it. It's not worth anything. Try to avoid getting it on unprotected skin; I think it can give you typhoid fever.
ykryptonite13
08-09-2004, 08:21 AM
No One Lives Forever - ps2
I'm only playing it because I feel obligated to myself for having bought it. I heard good things about the PC version so I thought the PS2 version wouldn't be that bad but, the load times after failing a mission are horrendously long asp. for a game that doesn't even really surpass Goldeneye in the graphics department. One mission frustrated me to the point where I moved on to playing Spider-Man 2 and I rarely play more than 1 game at a time. I chalk it up to bad programming/porting because the story ain't bad but this version is very flawed.
That an RE1. I didn't really play it when it originally came out, but I tried to play it and it's to clunky and slow.
jdevlin7756
08-09-2004, 08:39 AM
BATMAN DARK TOMORROW. That game was so bad I seriously considered getting in my car and going to Bellevue, WA (home of Kemco USA) and becoming violent. Only payed five dollars for the game, just wanted revenge for my suffering through the first few levels of the game.
The Tragic Geek
08-09-2004, 08:46 AM
I fail to see how Silent Hill 2 and Oddworld: Abe's Oddessey are "unplayable", but to each his own.
No, if you want a truly unplayable game, play Back to the Future for the NES. Game Genie or no Game Genie, I don't think anyone has gotten past the first level. Marty McFly just can't withstand the barrage of musical notes, bees, stray dogs and potholes that infest the streets of his town. If there's a level that has the Time Machine, or 1955, for that matter, I haven't seen it.
That, and some of the old games on Activision Anthology seem impossible. The F-16 flight game I've never been able to figure out, as I've always crashed. And the Space Shuttle game...I think I just held a button and completed it. Not impossible, but I don't know how the hell I did it.
Kulock
08-09-2004, 08:50 AM
On a similar note, I remember Back to the Future 2 & 3 (yes, both combined into one game) for the NES... I remember getting to 3 somehow, but the game just didn't make sense to me at the time. I should locate the ROM and see if I can figure it out better now...
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Rise of the Robots. I can't wait for some developer to get the "Genius" idea to port that to the GBA.
Hm... I picked up Crimson Sea during the Circuit City sale... it's not terrible, per se, but to fit the topic, the camera has a lot of problems in tighter areas, and when the character pivots/turns (so you do a lot of strafing to avoid headaches), and the 180 degree turnaround move only works if you're at a dead stop, which gives the enemy time to catch up and attack you in the meantime... I'll give it more of a shot at some point later, so it's not that terrible, but it certainly could have used some refinement, which I heard the sequel did receive.
Oh, and I picked up MM7 during the same CC sale... MAN do they move slow in that game... x_x The intro level is you plodding through with the brand new character (Axl) very, very slowly through a hallway while getting attacked by generic bots while the "Select Button" icon constantly goes off (requiring you to either ignore it or stop what you're doing to hear an inane hint), not to mention the traps that are based on your slow speed, that even the NES Megaman could've outrun easily. :P
OILYWATER
08-09-2004, 11:42 AM
Back in 2001 when I was working for TechTV/Extended Play, a couple of Nintendo's PR folks stopped by our offices to demo a couple games, one of which was a prerelease version of Kirby Tilt & Tumble. They used an adaptor very much like the Super Gameboy but went into the N64. As impressed as we were with the game, we did have a big laugh over using the N64 for the game.
OILYWATER
08-09-2004, 11:43 AM
Personally, I found many 8-bit sports games unplayable, especially golf games that couldn't tell you how far away your were from the hole when putting.
rebenns
08-09-2004, 11:59 AM
The most Unplayable game I've played, and one of the worst games ever, is Captain America and the Avengers for the SNES. I loved the arcade game on which it was based, but the home version was HORRIBLE. I waited so long for this game to come out. Luckily, I rented it first. For some odd reason, the Genesis version was quite good.
Though I never played it, Mortal Kombat Advance is supposedly so bug - ridden it is unplayable, and has the review scores to prove it.
I must also add the final level of Brute Force. While the rest of the game is pretty good, particularly with multiple players, the final level has you facing off against an enemy whose shield makes him invincible. You have to destroy the shield generators to disable the shield. The problem is, some of them are so well hidden that I spent over an hour looking for the final one, and never did find it.
Strider Turbulence
08-09-2004, 12:53 PM
The original Silent Hill was a nightmare for me. The one-two punch of bad graphics and the 'eternal darkness' of the game just made it a hassle to deal with it's plodding controls and finding items with the limited range of a small light.
digioverload
08-11-2004, 02:37 AM
After all, the question of this thread was about what games are not even worth finishing to you.
Funny, that isn't what the topic says... it says "Games that are unplayable".
That sort of title is reserved mostly for games that are either so illconcieved or bug ridden that it is not physically or technologically possible to play the game. You not being able to muster up the desire to doesn't mean a game is unplayable.
You're an idiot. Go back and read the first post by Fatesealer, the person that created this thread. He clearly said "where you never care if you see the ending". He also lists two games that he felt weren't worth finishing, but could be finished if he wanted. Maybe you should make sure that what you're going to say is true next time before you say it, instead of just assuming things.
sblymnlcrymnl
08-11-2004, 05:17 AM
LoZ: Link to the Past
Devil May Cry
Xenosaga
Seriously, I just could not get into them. No enjoyment whatsoever.
JSweeney
08-11-2004, 06:35 AM
After all, the question of this thread was about what games are not even worth finishing to you.
Funny, that isn't what the topic says... it says "Games that are unplayable".
That sort of title is reserved mostly for games that are either so illconcieved or bug ridden that it is not physically or technologically possible to play the game. You not being able to muster up the desire to doesn't mean a game is unplayable.
You're an idiot. Go back and read the first post by Fatesealer, the person that created this thread. He clearly said "where you never care if you see the ending". He also lists two games that he felt weren't worth finishing, but could be finished if he wanted. Maybe you should make sure that what you're going to say is true next time before you say it, instead of just assuming things.
Wait a minute. Let me get this straight....
you came back to a topic that's been dead for a couple of days just to call me an idiot? What good does that do? I mean, first of all, it's rather vulgar and unecessary, with the personal attack and all.
But to resurrect a dead thread just so you can do so?
You did know that it is possible to disagree with the premise that the OP states, right? His classification of "unplayable" and mine are completely different. If you actually read what you posted, it invokes the topic's title and not the content of the original post. Just because you're the OP and state a premise, it doesn't mean that everyone posting in the thread is going to follow or even agree to that premise. So long as one can back up and clarify why they think the original premise may be invalid, they are free to suggest a change or entirely new premise.
Backlash
08-11-2004, 10:11 AM
LoZ: Link to the Past
Wow, that is one of my favorite games! Too bad you couldn't get into it :(
In any case, it was by no means unplayable. Very tight controls and no real bugs that I know of.
digioverload
08-11-2004, 10:43 AM
Devil May Cry :shock: A friend of mine didn't like DMC either, and I can understand that people's taste differ, but would you mind explaining why you didn't like it?
Devil May Cry is one of my favorite games ever, perhaps my absolute favorite, and it received lots of praise. I'm just not sure why anybody wouldn't like it.
you came back to a topic that's been dead for a couple of days just to call me an idiot? What good does that do?
1) It was fun
2) It revived a thread that I've enjoyed reading. If I had nothing else to say, I would have just said "bump".
If you actually read what you posted, it invokes the topic's title and not the content of the original post.
I never said that text in bold. I don't know if you just assumed that since I responded to your response about it, that I posted it or what, but I've never mentioned even a single game that is impossible to finish, and I really have no clue what you're talking about.
Just because you're the OP and state a premise, it doesn't mean that everyone posting in the thread is going to follow or even agree to that premise.
I never said there was anything wrong with that, but other people should still be able to follow the original poster without being whined at by the ones that want to take it in a different diretion.
BTW JSweeney, I really like how you used several somewhat uncommon words slightly differently from their actual meaning so that it became almost impossible to understand what you were trying to say. :lol: I don't think I've ever seen that technique before. :wink:
Sheik Rattle Enroll
08-11-2004, 10:49 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but I hated DMC because of the idiotic locked camera. Nothing like a complete perspective change mid-jump.
sblymnlcrymnl
08-11-2004, 01:48 PM
LoZ: Link to the Past
Wow, that is one of my favorite games! Too bad you couldn't get into it :(
In any case, it was by no means unplayable. Very tight controls and no real bugs that I know of.
It's not that it was a bad game or anything of the sort, it just failed to impress me after all I had heard about how wonderful it was. From what I played, which was a good amount, I didn't think it was nearly as good as Link's Awakening. Also, I didn't try to play it until it was available on GBA. I'm sure I would have enjoyed it more when it was fresh and new.
JSweeney
08-11-2004, 03:37 PM
I never said that text in bold. I don't know if you just assumed that since I responded to your response about it, that I posted it or what, but I've never mentioned even a single game that is impossible to finish, and I really have no clue what you're talking about.
By qouting it, you reposted it. Obviously, one would assume that you read what you qouted before posting it. Of course, based upon your tirade earlier and your seeming cluelessness here, it appears that would be a poor assumption.
I never said there was anything wrong with that, but other people should still be able to follow the original poster without being whined at by the ones that want to take it in a different diretion.
This is what you said: You're an idiot. Go back and read the first post by Fatesealer, the person that created this thread. He clearly said "where you never care if you see the ending". He also lists two games that he felt weren't worth finishing, but could be finished if he wanted. Maybe you should make sure that what you're going to say is true next time before you say it, instead of just assuming things.
Unless what you were thinking is different than what you posted, there is an explict chastisement and implication of wrongdoing in that earlier post.
This is an open forum. After the OP makes thier post, they give up all control over it. It freely flows from that point until it's natural conclusion. During that time, it evolves and changes as people discuss it. You can argue that you want the subject to maintain it's current path, but trying to preserve the original intent of a thread doesn't act as a shield that prevents you from looking foolish when you indulge in crass or juvenile behavior, such as petty namecalling.
BTW JSweeney, I really like how you used several somewhat uncommon words slightly differently from their actual meaning so that it became almost impossible to understand what you were trying to say. :lol: I don't think I've ever seen that technique before. :wink:
Really, and which words were those? Believe it or not, some words have multiple meanings and various definitions.
digioverload
08-11-2004, 05:10 PM
I can't speak for anyone else, but I hated DMC because of the idiotic locked camera. Nothing like a complete perspective change mid-jump.Aaahhh..... those sudden angle changes. I can definately see how those could bother some people. At one time, I had nothing to play but Onimusha: Warlords, so I was forced to get used to that. When I played DMC, that no longer bothered me. If you ever get used to instant angle changes after playing a different game, trying giving DMC another chance. ^_^
JSweeney, I don't think all these other people really want to see us bickering at each other, so if you insist on continuing this, check your PMs.
catacasa
08-11-2004, 05:38 PM
For me, of recent...Skies of Arcadia (GC version) comes to mind.
I had put 40+ hours into it before I realized I really had no desire to ever finish it.
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Okay, maybe it was more like 20-25 hours of ACTUAL playing time...and the other 15-20 hours was tacked on during the countless times I fell asleep in mid-battle because of how damn easy, boring, and frequent they were. I enjoyed a lot of the other aspects to the game, but the 'waste of time' battles definately made it all seem pointless. Somebody needs to shoot the person(s) involved in the decision to create a random encounter every 2 feet.
JSweeney
08-11-2004, 06:48 PM
I don't argue via PM. Never have, never will.
It serves absolutely no purpose, and thus is a fruitless endeavor.
Here's the PM, for anyone interested:
JSweeney wrote:
By qouting it, you reposted it. Obviously, one would assume that you read what you qouted before posting it. Of course, based upon your tirade earlier and your seeming cluelessness here, it appears that would be a poor assumption.
I did read it, but I couldn't figure out how what you said related to it either.
So because you can't follow the flow of the converstation, you feel it's your job to start hurling insults, huh? No one else seemed to have a problem following the flow of the conversation.
When refering to this: After all, the question of this thread was about what games are not even worth finishing to you you said this: If you actually read what you posted, it invokes the topic's title and not the content of the original post..
First, let's cull my thought out of the abomination you constructed around it.
"If you actually read what you posted, it invokes the topic's title and not the content of the original post."
Basically, in this I state that my posts are germane to the topic, yet not to the spirit of the thread which the OP attempts to create.
The topic, as stated by the title, is unplayable games. This covers all manners and definitions of "unplayable games".
Fatesealer intended to define this as games that you just couldn't bring yourself to finish. My definition views it as "games that are either so illconcieved or bug ridden that it is not physically or technologically possible to play the game".
Of course, I was happy to just let that little discussion die down.
If you notice, that post was made almost two weeks ago. I was fine to just drop the issue and continue with the thread as is. You were the one who came in and started hurling insults. You dredged all of this back up.
That doesn't make any sense, so I just ended up saying that I didn't have a clue what you're talking about.
It makes plenty of sense. Something can be within the scope of the topic, yet not adhere to the intented course that an OP intends.
Just because you can't follow the flow of a reasonable discussion doesn't mean you get to go around willy-nilly hurling insults.
JSweeney wrote:
Unless what you were thinking is different than what you posted, there is an explict chastisement and implication of wrongdoing in that earlier post.
This is an open forum. After the OP makes thier post, they give up all control over it. It freely flows from that point until it's natural conclusion. During that time, it evolves and changes as people discuss it. You can argue that you want the subject to maintain it's current path, but trying to preserve the original intent of a thread doesn't act as a shield that prevents you from looking foolish when you indulge in crass or juvenile behavior, such as petty namecalling.
I don't want all threads to stay on topic with the first post. Other people can start talking about something else that's related but not exactly the same, but when that happens, other people should be able to continue with what the first posts was talking about. If a new topic emerges in a thread, the first topic shouldn't be killed off.
It wasn't. Follow the path of the tread. Two posts after where I define "unplayable" the thread returns to it modus oporandi.
BTW, you're the one trying to change what everybody else is talking about. You're the minority trying to convince the majority to move on to a different topic. (Bad games to games that truly are unplayable, that is.)
Again, your raising rabble over an issue that as long since passed. The only reason I bother responding to your intial troll was the unecessary insults being hurled.
JSweeney wrote:
Really, and which words were those? Believe it or not, some words have multiple meanings and various definitions.
Wow, multiple meanings AND various definitions? Both?! Seriously, the way you use some words doesn't match any of their definitions. I don't know if you've been using a word-a-day calendar and you aren't exactly sure what some words mean, but if you can't remember correctly, you shoud just stick to more common words that you still remember the meaning of.
Long on insults, short on evidence.
I'd still like to see a couple of these instances where I suposively use the wrong word or misuse a word.
Now, unless there is anything else, I consider this issue closed.