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SpreadTheWord
10-24-2007, 01:11 AM
I played the Hellgate London demo on Friday as the sword guy and was bored to tears. Probably should've tried the shooter before uninstalling, but oh well.

yeah, I couldn't get into it. I didn't try the shooter class before uninstalling, but what I played of the other class wasn't enough to pull me in.

I just played through the Hellgate demo again as the blademaster and I didn't thing it was that bad. Maybe not as good as the marksman but still fun. I'll have to find a demo for Titan Quest and compare, because I've never actually played a Diablo style hack 'n slash game before.

I'm starting to really get into Okami. I wish the map system was a little better, but that's one of the biggest complaints I have with this game (the endless talking is starting to get a little more reasonable).

Chacrana
10-24-2007, 01:18 AM
Titan Quest is soooo bad after like 2 or 3 hours.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 01:19 AM
Yeah markman a good friend of mine is from san diego and her parents are still out there. I guess they weren't affected, but that footage was creepy, as I've been out there.

I won the Classic Snow Race on PGR4 first try. That was amazing fun. Also got all platinums in the first Arcade Chapter. I love driving the bikes.

Apossum
10-24-2007, 01:28 AM
I'll have to find a demo for Titan Quest and compare, because I've never actually played a Diablo style hack 'n slash game before.


you'll love it or hate it. It's very mindless and a bit plodding, like all hack n' slash games. The biggest difference is the isometric view (which I happen to like better.) Also, the skill system and inventory menus are easier to read and understand, imo.


Titan Quest is soooo bad after like 2 or 3 hours.


Don't listen to this guy, he's a furry!

jk.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 01:31 AM
Furries are people too

BAD PEOPLE

Vendetta
10-24-2007, 02:31 AM
I actually liked Titan Quest and its expansion a lot. I almost finished Epic (or maybe the difficulty after that, can't remember) with a Hunter/Rogue before stopping because none of my friends wanted to move on from Diablo 2. The setting and story are generic, yes, but I find the gameplay pretty satisfying with all the different class combinations. It's as close to Diablo 3 as I'm going to get for a while, unless I really end up liking Hellgate: London.

On a side note, I got MLB Power Pros today through Gamestop's B1G1 50% off deal, and it's as friggin' awesome as everyone says it is. I've only played an exhibition game so far - Sox vs. Yanks of course - but that was enough to show me how great this game is. I can't wait to try out the Success and Season modes; it's the most fun I've had in a baseball game in years.

I also picked up Mega Man X Collection (in addition to Tales of Symphonia, which I'd been meaning to pick up for a long time) for the Gamecube, but I'm getting an out-of-range error when I try to play it through component cables on my HDTV. :( I had to move my Wii back to my room with my PC monitor. For some reason the game displays perfectly when I hook up the Wii via component on the monitor but not the HDTV in the living room. Oh well, it's worth it for this game.

red flare graf
10-24-2007, 02:48 AM
I played the Crysis demo this morning. Cool shit.

gunm
10-24-2007, 07:38 AM
Finishing the Game was solid with a couple of genuinely lol moments. Kind of like a more refined Hollywood Shuffle for Asian-Americans. I enjoyed it and it was cool seeing Dustin "21 Jump Street" Nguyen and Roger Fan (Annapolis) in person to answer questions about the film after. Too bad Justin Lin, the director, had to jet back to LA to meet Vin Diesel to pick cars for Fast & Furious 4.

Back OT, I played a smidge of HL2 then on to some Portal mind-bendiness. I will me too on Portal being a kick ass fun game and I think it was well worth the $50 I spent on Orange Box.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 08:38 AM
It's funny to read the Gamespot/GameFAQs boards for PS3 kids whining about the 7.5 Ratchet and Clank got. Gamespot is rediculous. That's worse lowballing than they've ever done. The game does look fantastic and 7.5 is inexcusable. I think it's all but confirmed they do this with big titles just to score traffic.

munch
10-24-2007, 08:52 AM
I'm playing through Half Life 2 right now. It is amazing. I want to play through both episodes after that, then move to Bioshock. I can only play about 30 minutes a day, so it may take a while.

SpreadTheWord
10-24-2007, 12:16 PM
It's funny to read the Gamespot/GameFAQs boards for PS3 kids whining about the 7.5 Ratchet and Clank got. Gamespot is rediculous. That's worse lowballing than they've ever done. The game does look fantastic and 7.5 is inexcusable. I think it's all but confirmed they do this with big titles just to score traffic.

I don't know about 7.5 being "inexcusable", but it does seem low for a series that has always been reviewed very well. A few of "The Bad" in the review seemed pretty weak. The stories have always been little more than setups, there's always been a ton of mini games and one-off gameplay mechanics, and how is a game being easy that much of a bad thing? Will Mario Galaxy get a lower score if it doesn't challenge the reviewer? Overall it seems like something you'd read in Game Informer, not Gamespot.

But the forum comments are very funny. I saw one guy say that GS is stopping "hundreds of thousands" of people from playing the game.

daroga
10-24-2007, 01:03 PM
If you have a PSP, get Castlevania. It's solid.

The God of War demo is really impressive too.

botticus
10-24-2007, 01:47 PM
Today is Capcom Day. Got my games, now just the 4 hour wait to play them.

SL4IN
10-24-2007, 01:59 PM
picking up PW3 in about 2 hours. then work. atleast I'll have something to do now.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm so tempted to get Zack and Wiki.. but 3 games in one week is too much.. even though I sold 5 this week.

Edit: $10 Reward Zone Certificate seals the deal. At least I only want 3-4 more games for the rest of the year.. right? Simpsons DS, Mass Effect, Mario Galaxy.. maybe FFXII Revenant Wings.

As for the gamespot score, 7.5 may be closer to what the game deserves as it's good but does nothing spectacularly new, but it's just sending a message that GameSpot wants attention. Point values are stupid anyway. So are forum kids who freak out about this stuff. It's actually even more telling just how much of a vocal minority there is. Nobody really seems to care about Ratchet and Clank except that very vocal pocket of most forums that is talking about the game.

whoknows
10-24-2007, 03:21 PM
It's funny to read the Gamespot/GameFAQs boards for PS3 kids whining about the 7.5 Ratchet and Clank got. Gamespot is rediculous. That's worse lowballing than they've ever done. The game does look fantastic and 7.5 is inexcusable. I think it's all but confirmed they do this with big titles just to score traffic.
They have to be doing it for attention. Just about every other reviewer says this is the BEST Ratchet & Clank so far, yet GS and only GS says it is just about the worst. I just don't get it.

Still, the GameFaq kids are funny :-P

gunm
10-24-2007, 03:51 PM
Huh, Aeris left me a message yesterday that Ace Combat will be available this afternoon for pick up--I thought this was coming out next week? Anyway, I guess I will have even more things to pick up this afternoon.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 04:35 PM
I can see rating it lower than top notch for not innovating and feeling a bit stale, but 7.5 is where ratings typically start to go when a game deviates from fun to formulaic. It's just not consistent with what that site rates other 7.5 games. Phoenix Wright 3 recently got the same score, and for good reason. It does nothing wrong, but nothing new either, and it's not going to sway a huge legion of fans.

botticus
10-24-2007, 07:13 PM
Zack & Wiki deserves 8s and 9s. Nice to see something new on the Wii that's actually good.

dallow
10-24-2007, 07:24 PM
Just had to say that this is the best thread title ever on CAG that I've seen.
I love it. It's so funny in my head, especially the voice I give it.

primetime
10-24-2007, 08:49 PM
Just unlocked all the cars in the GT5 prologue demo, so I've been playing that.

gunm
10-24-2007, 08:59 PM
Whoa, GT5 Prologue Demo is available? Crap, where have I been...must need download now.

primetime
10-24-2007, 09:04 PM
Whoa, GT5 Prologue Demo is available? Crap, where have I been...must need download now.

JPN PS Store. It's great.

jer7583
10-24-2007, 09:52 PM
I caved and got Zack and Wiki, Castlevania, and Phoenix Wright today.. along with trading two non ebay selling games at a local store to get SFA Anthology and Capcom Classics Volume 1 for $4.

I've been basking in the joy of Rondo of Blood all evening. I've never played the original, but the remake is incredible.

Freaking gamestop didn't have either of the pre-order bonuses that were the reason I was even stepping foot in the cursed place.. What's wrong with those guys? did anyone else get the PW or Castlevania bonuses?

botticus
10-24-2007, 10:20 PM
I caved and got Zack and Wiki, Castlevania, and Phoenix Wright today.. along with trading two non ebay selling games at a local store to get SFA Anthology and Capcom Classics Volume 1 for $4.

I've been basking in the joy of Rondo of Blood all evening. I've never played the original, but the remake is incredible.

Freaking gamestop didn't have either of the pre-order bonuses that were the reason I was even stepping foot in the cursed place.. What's wrong with those guys? did anyone else get the PW or Castlevania bonuses?I got PW. There were actually three, since Z&W was supposed to have one, but they didn't have it.

The Mana Knight
10-24-2007, 10:20 PM
I went MIA from this forum for a little (well, I still haven't posted on other forums), because I needed time to work on my project (got a lot done, by spending over 15 hours in a lab this week working on it) and I didn't want my blood pressure increasing more over forums.

For over a day, I took a break from gaming and did other things for once. But, kind of feel like crap now after some girl trouble (It has to do with a girl I liked for a while, long story. It makes me really think about changing myself, so I can get a new girl).

Anyway, I've played Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction and absolutely love it. I played the GT5 Prologue demo the other day too. I have Folklore waiting for me at home, so I'll play that.

InuFaye
10-24-2007, 10:59 PM
I went MIA from this forum for a little (well, I still haven't posted on other forums), because I needed time to work on my project (got a lot done, by spending over 15 hours in a lab this week working on it) and I didn't want my blood pressure increasing more over forums.

For over a day, I took a break from gaming and did other things for once. But, kind of feel like crap now after some girl trouble (It has to do with a girl I liked for a while, long story. It makes me really think about changing myself, so I can get a new girl).

Anyway, I've played Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction and absolutely love it. I played the GT5 Prologue demo the other day too. I have Folklore waiting for me at home, so I'll play that.

OT a little bit, but mana girls arent worth changing yourself for man. There are enough out there that you dont need to worry about changing yourself.

Anyways, Ive been playing more phoenix wright on ds. I bought the first game awhile ago and im just about done with the 4th trial thing. Thinking about picking up the second game since it just dropped to be real cheap.

GH3 next week and thats about it for the rest of the year in gaming pickups. Only other ones are Rock Band, Mass Effect and Assassins Creed.

The Mana Knight
10-24-2007, 11:36 PM
OT a little bit, but mana girls arent worth changing yourself for man. There are enough out there that you dont need to worry about changing yourself. Good idea (well, I tend to stick to liking only one girl too often. It partially Facebook related though. She wasn't a girl I met online, I actually knew her in real life and hugged her many times).

If you have a PSP, get Castlevania. It's solid.

The God of War demo is really impressive too.The demo should be at home waiting for me. Thankfully I go to my hometown tomorrow evening.

I really want Castlevania, but I spent way too much this month. I'll probably just get it for Christmas.

I played more Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction, after I made my previous post. I haven't played PGR4 in a while, so I might get back to it this weekend (busy all this week).

jer7583
10-24-2007, 11:50 PM
Castlevania on PSP is awesome, but this ghosting/blurring stuff is bad. Scrolling games just aren't good on PSP. It's odd that emulators never seem to have this problem, just retail games. Another area where the PSP's official features lag behind the user created ones. lol lol.

It's a fantastic game, though. Going to listen to *NEW* retronauts and play it now.

RETRONAUTS! ASSEMBLE

YOU MUST LISTEN IF EVEN YOU CANNOT HEAR

Rei no Otaku
10-25-2007, 12:02 AM
Got 7 games today, and played them all a decent amount. I'm done for the day XD

I'm probably going to concentrate on Ace Combat 6 and Phoenix Wright for now. Finish those two and move onto Ratchet and Front Mission.

daroga
10-25-2007, 12:05 AM
Yeah, the ghosting is rough until Belmont gets into the middle of the screen and then it's not bad to focus on him with him ghosting.

The PSP screen is vibrant and bright, but overall pretty crappy.

I need to stop sucking, though. Level 4 is kicking my butt. Just now figured out that you can jump over the rushing axe armors... knowing and executing are two different things ;)

SpreadTheWord
10-25-2007, 12:12 AM
Going to listen to *NEW* retronauts and play it now.

RETRONAUTS! ASSEMBLE

YOU MUST LISTEN IF EVEN YOU CANNOT HEAR

I can't wait to listen to it tomorrow.

Played a couple more hours of Okami. I don't know how I'll be able to play through the whole game, I feel like I've played all night and it turns out I've only played an hour. And it's not that the game is boring.

I wish I had picked up the first Phoenix Wright when TRU had it for $10. All this talk about the new game is giving me an itch to try it.

The Mana Knight
10-25-2007, 12:21 AM
Yeah, the ghosting is rough until Belmont gets into the middle of the screen and then it's not bad to focus on him with him ghosting.

The PSP screen is vibrant and bright, but overall pretty crappy.

I need to stop sucking, though. Level 4 is kicking my butt. Just now figured out that you can jump over the rushing axe armors... knowing and executing are two different things ;)That's strange because I never noticed ghosting in games, but at the same time, I do notice the new screen on the PSP-2000 to be much more clear. I honestly don't know why I don't see the ghosting everyone talks about (not sure if it has to do with some slight eye sight issues I have, me being too slow to react in some games, etc.).

jer7583
10-25-2007, 12:29 AM
Solid objects that scroll along a plane on the old PSPs that have high contrast with their background leave visible trails. It's very noticeable and fairly irritating at times. I think it has something to do with refresh rate for the screen, as those black pixels don't die out fast enough and linger onto the next frame in their old position. I've never seen this happen on the DS where pixels are clear cut in motion even when dark pixels move on a light background, where the PSP has lots of trouble. I also saw this happen on the GBA SP2 units with the brighter screens. I think it has to do with that some brighter LCD screens aren't as able to shut off colors as quickly and they ghost behind objects.

daroga
10-25-2007, 12:31 AM
That's strange because I never noticed ghosting in games, but at the same time, I do notice the new screen on the PSP-2000 to be much more clear. I honestly don't know why I don't see the ghosting everyone talks about (not sure if it has to do with some slight eye sight issues I have, me being too slow to react in some games, etc.).It's not real pronounced in every game. Jer's description is good. LocoRoco is especially a culprit. I thought it was just the trippy design of the game at first, but it's the PSP's screen. It's more pronounced in that game but not as obnoxious because there's not a ton of detail in that game.

The Crotch
10-25-2007, 12:38 AM
I caved and got Zack and Wiki, Castlevania, and Phoenix Wright today..
I was totally going to sick Ahmed Malik on you until I read this.

whoknows
10-25-2007, 12:56 AM
Got R&C today.

I forgot to use the 10% off thing at GS so I'm thinking of holding off on playing it tonight and returning it tomorrow and re-buying with the 10% off thing. That's like...$6 I'm missing out on.

They probably wouldn't let me do that if it wasn't sealed right?

Jimbo Slice
10-25-2007, 01:09 AM
Anyone know if the achievements stack in Jericho? If I beat it on Hard, will I get the achievements for the certain levels that you have to beat on normal?

SL4IN
10-25-2007, 01:16 AM
Anyone know if the achievements stack in Jericho? If I beat it on Hard, will I get the achievements for the certain levels that you have to beat on normal?

I would believe they would.

as for me, picked up PW3 today, but it's staying sealed until I finish 2. Also got word that my psp slim comes in tomorrow, so I'll be able to finally start Jeanne D'Arc.

Other than that, put in an order for Dementium: The Ward for ds, so I'm expecting that sometime next week along with Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness on the PSP and the very next week with Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker. After my test/paper on monday, my handhelds are moving back to number 1 on my play time list.

In the mean time, I'm working on my paper due on monday and trying to get through the weekend of studying.

Apossum
10-25-2007, 01:22 AM
I'm making the PSP slim plunge as well thanks to some BB credit and the $15 off coupon.

I think I'll start with:
--Killzone
--Crush
--Jeanne D'Arc
--maybe FFT
--maybe MH2

and it's official, I have too much freaking backlog again. I don't think I'll mod this one though.


edit: If anyone has any impressions of playing games over video out, I'd really appreciate them. Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, but it seems like no one is talking about it. Just wondering if it looks decent (I'm expecting stuff to look a little worse than an average PS2 game.)

daroga
10-25-2007, 08:03 AM
edit: If anyone has any impressions of playing games over video out, I'd really appreciate them. Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, but it seems like no one is talking about it. Just wondering if it looks decent (I'm expecting stuff to look a little worse than an average PS2 game.)I don't have a slim, but my understanding is that it's kind of a letdown. Thanks to there not being a scaler chip in the PSP, it runs "postage stamped" on the TV with black borders all around. Doesn't sound especially great, but probably makes it look a bit better than it would be scaled and filling the screen.

The Mana Knight
10-25-2007, 08:35 AM
I don't have a slim, but my understanding is that it's kind of a letdown. Thanks to there not being a scaler chip in the PSP, it runs "postage stamped" on the TV with black borders all around. Doesn't sound especially great, but probably makes it look a bit better than it would be scaled and filling the screen.Actually, there are many who state its the best revision ever too, so it can go both ways. The situation is that the PSP slim was really only initially made to reduce costs (like the slim PS2). The TV out was added because some wanted it and they could easily do it. Adding a scaler chip to interlace the display would add $$$ to it and make it more expensive, which is why they left it as is (from my understanding). The slim PSP is worth is alone for its lighter weight, brighter screen, better D-pad/analog nub/face buttons, not having to constantly access the UMD, etc. Unfortunately, I haven't used my TV out much since my TV only has one component output (which the 360 uses) and it's a pain switching cables. :-( I need a Component Switcher, but I'm too cheap to get one. :-P I heard that it doesn't use the full screen so the image quality doesn't decrease a whole lot, although with my HDTV, if I set the zoom at 2X, it displays like a PS1/PS2 game being playing on my PS3 (which is almost full).

I haven't played handhelds much lately, but I should get back into it this weekend a little.

daroga
10-25-2007, 08:54 AM
Different screen? Everything I've read is that the PSP Slim has the exact same scren as the later releases of the bigger PSP.

Because it didn't have a better screen is the main reason I've not even thought about getting a slim. But if it's truly better I might have to check it out. Can anyone else weigh in on that?

The Mana Knight
10-25-2007, 09:12 AM
Well, part of the reason the screen may appear better for me is because I have a near launch PSP, and from what I heard with the original PSP, the newer models (of the fatter version) had a brighter screen.

My camera doesn't show a lot (due to it being terrible quality), but this is my two side by side:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PSP-2000_2.jpg

Both are on the same brightness settings (the max).

InuFaye
10-25-2007, 09:15 AM
Different screen? Everything I've read is that the PSP Slim has the exact same scren as the later releases of the bigger PSP.

Because it didn't have a better screen is the main reason I've not even thought about getting a slim. But if it's truly better I might have to check it out. Can anyone else weigh in on that?

Its the same screen sony said so themselves. I also noticed that the slim can tend to get slightly worse battery life if you dont use one of the old batteries.

With me the psp weight was never a problem the problem with the psp I had was the length. It was just a tad to big tofit in my pocket comfortably.

It might be worth the extra cash to some, but for 170 I will keep my money.

I'm thinking of getting The Witcher next week for pc, but I hear the american release is edited compared to the euro release. I also feel like it is gonna be massively overlooked and thus coud drop in price fast. Any feelings about this one?

daroga
10-25-2007, 09:59 AM
I understand the picture is not a good way to judge screen brightness at all, but Mana, those two screens couldn't look more exactly the same to me. ;)

terribledeli
10-25-2007, 10:01 AM
Played Exit for anout 20 minutes last night and ended up watching Meet the Robinsons.

Castlevania should be in today. I also blind pre-ordered The Simpsons last night. Despite it being everywhere, I still haven't even as much as looked at a trailer.

InuFaye
10-25-2007, 10:21 AM
Also I probably get brighter screen setting with custom firmware and such. It can go up to the level of having the thing plugged in.

Once Again:
Homebrew-1
Sony - 0

daroga
10-25-2007, 10:37 AM
Also I probably get brighter screen setting with custom firmware and such. It can go up to the level of having the thing plugged in.

Once Again:
Homebrew-1
Sony - 0Yeah, that extra brightness setting with the custom firware is fantastic. :)

Apossum
10-25-2007, 10:59 AM
bah, I meant Castlevania, not Killzone (in my previous post.)


Sucks that video out isn't so hot.

Chibi_Kaji
10-25-2007, 11:17 AM
Going to listen to *NEW* retronauts and play it now.

RETRONAUTS! ASSEMBLE

YOU MUST LISTEN IF EVEN YOU CANNOT HEAR
New Retronauts?!?! I've been waiting forever for one...

I picked my copy of PW3 yesterday. I have only finished the 1st case so far, but I think I might end up enjoying it more than the last game... I hope. And I was going to get Castlevania last night but Best Buy didn't have it... So I might try Game Crazy later today when I go out to Hollywood Video, I was thinking of renting Bleach: Shattered Blade or Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution.

Chacrana
10-25-2007, 11:26 AM
oooh, great topic for Retronauts too. Downloadin' that shit now.

SL4IN
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
my psp slim comes into today, so i'll probably play some jeanne d'arc tonight.

InuFaye
10-25-2007, 01:27 PM
my psp slim comes into today, so i'll probably play some jeanne d'arc tonight.

Great game. Although, I found it to be fairly easy and simple SRPG.

Apossum
10-25-2007, 02:53 PM
retronauts, eh? I think i'll download it for my drive to chicago tonight.

Jimbo Slice
10-25-2007, 02:57 PM
retronauts, eh? I think i'll download it for my drive to chicago tonight.

Probably gonna DL it as well, been looking for a new podcast to listen to.

SL4IN
10-25-2007, 03:01 PM
just got back home with my psp slim and WOW. the thing was so light I thought it was fake at first. it's charging right now and i'll get to some jeanne d'arc after while.

gunm
10-25-2007, 05:44 PM
That reminds me, I should start Jeanne D'arc sometime. I've only been playing PSP during lunch at work, but now I've started going to the Y instead.

Last night I played the tutorial part of Zack & Wiki before becoming really tired for some reason (maybe see above?) and crashing early. Didn't even get to crack the seal on Ace Combat 6 or try making a Japanese PSN account to dl GT5 Prologue. Tonight is TV night though with me needing to catch CSI and tomorrow night it'll be movie night to see the new Appleseed flick at the HIFF. Oh well...

whoknows
10-25-2007, 05:45 PM
Yeah, Jeanne D'arc is definitely worth playing.

I am not a big fan of SRPG's, but I'm liking this one. Either I don't suck too much or it's a very easy game. I'd like to think it's somewhere in between :-P

jer7583
10-25-2007, 07:44 PM
That retronauts show was amazing. Good Chrono Trigger memories. I paid $90 for it back in 95 or so as well. Still the best RPG there is, and they pointed out exactly why. It throws out all the bullshit conventions that RPGs feel they need to stick to that make them boring, drawn out, yawnfests. Why have 90% of the RPGs released since then not abolished random battles, let you walk away from conversations, given everyday foes personality, or used humor as cleverly as Chrono Trigger? RPGs are bullshit. Chrono Trigger still has more attention to detail and reward for players making unusual choices than almost anything that comes out today.

I started a copy of Secret of Evermore that I bought about a month ago, and it's so overlooked/underrated. Fantastic music, plays a lot like Secret of Mana, what's not to like? Okay, the story, but RPG stories are never really that great anyhow. It came out around the same time as Chrono Trigger and has that same feel of good mid 90s squaresoft, even though it was US developed.

I'm going to feast upon Metroid Prime 3 finally tonight.

Chacrana
10-25-2007, 07:49 PM
Most RPGs are bullshit. There's still the occasional one that I love, but there's far more shitty ones now. Blue Dragon, in particularly, showed how shitty the genre can be.

I'm nearing the end of the podcast. Good shit. Love dat music (Black Omen theme in particular.)

SL4IN
10-25-2007, 08:40 PM
ugh. heading off to a review session for the next 3 hours.

after that though, no worries until 12 am tomorrow, so i'm going to dig into jeanne d'arc tonight. it'll be the first time I've played games all week!

InuFaye
10-25-2007, 08:47 PM
I got Sega Rally Revo from the gamefly today. Im gonna play it for awhile. I really liked katamari on the 360 I might keep it. Anyone have it that wants to do some multi?

gunm
10-25-2007, 09:10 PM
It'd be nice to have BK, but there's sooo much shit coming in I have to wait on it.

The Mana Knight
10-25-2007, 10:28 PM
I will get Beautiful Katamari, but it may not be until around Christmas. I still gotta renew XBL (mine ends towards the beginning of November). :-(

Anyway, I played a few games. I played some DiRT on PS3 and progressed a little (up to 21% complete). I played a little Warhawk on PS3. I played some PGR4 on 360 and tried E4 (don't like it as much as I did on PSP though, but I was playing on an SDTV).

Lastly, if anyone has Warhawk and is interested, I'm holding a CAG Warhawk Night (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155735) tomorrow at 9:30pm EST on my server. Details are in the thread. It's open to all CAG members.

zewone
10-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Oblivion, Beautiful Katamari, TF2, VF5.

botticus
10-25-2007, 11:07 PM
Finished up the first boss in Zack & Wiki, probably gonna start PW3 before I get to bed.

RelentlessRolento
10-25-2007, 11:32 PM
tomorrow I'll be stopping by my gameworks to continue playing my favorite arcade title for the year:

http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061101/sega08.jpg

jer7583
10-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Arcades? I remember those things.

Whiners be damned, the remade Rondo is better.

zewone
10-26-2007, 01:07 AM
What's the name of that arcade game?

daroga
10-26-2007, 01:09 AM
Just beat level 6 on C: DXC tonight. The game is really not that hard (save of level 4, that was kind of obnoxious in places). Those Game Informer reviewers shouldn't be allowed to play things that aren't Nintendogs I guess.

I'm kinda thinking about trying my had at a strategy RPG. Can anyone make a suggestion of where to start? Looking for something fun without a huge learning curve or too steep of a difficulty. Preferbly portable, but whatever.

zewone
10-26-2007, 01:10 AM
Strategy RPG like Final Fantasy Tactics?

whoknows
10-26-2007, 01:11 AM
Jeanne D'arc doesn't seem to be too hard. I'm making progress and I suck at SRPG's.

RelentlessRolento
10-26-2007, 01:12 AM
What's the name of that arcade game?


either "Too Spicy" or "2Spicy" and it's made by sega. it's fucking great, though the dialog is horribly cheesy.

daroga
10-26-2007, 01:19 AM
Strategy RPG like Final Fantasy Tactics?I think so. I've not really ever played one, so I don't really know the differences in styles.

zewone
10-26-2007, 01:20 AM
Well, if you have a PSP, I'd get Disgaea or Final Fantasy Tactics (though I hear the FFT port was bad).

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 01:20 AM
Phew, finished off Wind Waker. The last boss was pretty cool.

zewone
10-26-2007, 01:23 AM
Phew, finished off Wind Waker. The last boss was very cool.
fixed.

<3 WW's ending sequence.

Vendetta
10-26-2007, 01:36 AM
I finally got to renting Heavenly Sword today, and my roommate and I played through the whole thing in one go for ~8 hours straight. I thoroughly enjoyed the demo, but I still didn't think I'd like the end product as much as I do. The graphics are jaw-dropping, especially the facial expressions, the gameplay's tight, and the overall presentation is really, really top-class.

It makes me sad to see it didn't sell too well in September, but after all, I also couldn't justify dropping $60 on the game. I've already beaten it and am pretty close to unlocking all the artwork in a single day, albeit thanks to a very long marathon gaming session, which I haven't done in years. Still, I like it enough that I'll probably pick it up when it drops to ~$20 to play through Hell mode, completely unlock everything, and just because it's a game I want to have in my collection.

Playing through it has rejuvenated my hope for the PS3, which recently I've kind of been down on due to my experience with Lair and being pretty high on the Wii/Gamecube lately (I need to find me a Zack and Wiki that comes with the pre-order bonus!). I have Ratchet and Clank coming to me, there's Uncharted in November, I'll pick up Folklore eventually, and I might even check out Haze if that turns out really well, despite normally shying away from console FPS. That, along with the great Wii stuff due in the next two months plus Mass Effect (even pre-ordered the CE of that) and Guitar Hero 3, make me happy to be a gamer in 2007.

daroga
10-26-2007, 01:44 AM
fixed.

<3 WW's ending sequence.So true.

It's like the whole endgame was designed to say, "Think Celda is for kids? Screw off."

I need to replay that sometime.

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 01:59 AM
I posted this in the fighting thread, but this is mandatory viewing for all legitimate people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ze-xQoEfOU

The Crotch
10-26-2007, 02:05 AM
The final battle of Wind Waker is probably the greatest gaming moment I've ever participated in.

Didn't do much playing today, but my Urban Dead (http://www.urbandead.com/) clan (http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Church_of_the_Resurrection) just took down its second NecroTech building in as many days. Far faster than, say, a police station, but they're the only places that can revive stronger zombies like mine.

I'm kinda thinking about trying my had at a strategy RPG. Can anyone make a suggestion of where to start? Looking for something fun without a huge learning curve or too steep of a difficulty. Preferbly portable, but whatever.SRPGs are my very favourite genre. Let's see...

Final Fantasy Tactics is a fucking classic, but the random difficulty spikes can be a little off-putting. FFTA was a joke, but it might be a good place to start for those new to the genre.

Another good place to start are the first two Shining Forces. I know the first is on the Virtual Console and got remade on the GBA. Just beware of any Shining Force after #3, or any other "Shining" game - generally pretty crappy. Shining Force 2 is the best of the best of the original Genesis games, but 3 - the parts that are in english - is a mythical beast that only pure maidens may gaze upon.

FRONT MOTHERfuckING MISSION! I dunno about most of them, but the first was absolute gold. It's being remade on the DS, but the only way to play it in its original, SNES form is the 95% translated ROM.

And there's no way I could let this opportunity go by without plugging Fire Emblem 10 AKA Goddess of Dawn AKA Radiant Dawn. Unlike most FEs, it's a direct sequel to its predecessor, the GameCube's Path of Radiance. PoR was absolutely fantastic, and 10's early reviews have been glowing. The GBA games were pretty good, too. Thing is, they can be damn hard. They're damn hard because of one simple thing: death is permanent. Permanent. No "3 turns to revive or the guy dies". No "Pay a bit of gold to have his soul put back in his body". No "pay money to repair his broken Wanderung Panzer". Dead, dead, dead. I guess it's not that hard if you just keep going on, as there are way too many characters to ever use.

I've heard nothing but good things about Jeanne D'Arc. Probably a better choice for beginners than something like FFT.

Suikoden games have SRPG elements in them.

Avoid the Ogre - Battle or Tactics- games.

daroga
10-26-2007, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the advice guys. I might see about trying Jeanne D'Arc. I don't suppose there's a demo available to download to the PSP for that, eh?

jer7583
10-26-2007, 02:21 AM
Jeanne D'arc is pretty good, especially for beginners. The AI is pretty vicious, though. It doesn't have the same addictive skill building system as FFT does, which is what really draws me into these kind of games. Jeanne D'arc's skill system is pretty much like the materia system in FFVII. Assign a limited number and build them on characters. FFT has a menu that's almost like a shop for skills where you spend Job Points accumulated by taking actions in battle. The skills are all divided into various jobs, but characters can keep a limited amount of skills from old jobs while playing a different job. I found FFT to be more rewarding because after a battle or two you get to go buy new abilities and such.

And avoid Disgaea. I could never get into that game, seems more for the hardcore.

I put in the Street Fighter Alpha Anthology and had some fond memories of SFA1. It's not as good as SFA3, but I played a LOT of the first one in the arcade, because we owned it back when my family still owned a mini golf/driving range with arcade that I worked at every summer. The year before that was killer instinct, and before that was MK2 that I would play for hours everyday. I miss the arcades.

And that video was great, chac. OKAYY! POWAA DUNK! GET SEWIAS! I don't even play many SNK games and that was great. The beginning reminded me of God Hand for some reason. A God Hand parody movie should be made. I love that game.

MarkMan
10-26-2007, 03:35 AM
Went shopping today and got...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2337/1753512048_194e28a3d0.jpg

fuck help me for the next two months... X_X

gunm
10-26-2007, 03:56 AM
They have EOJ at Frys? Rats. Still waiting for my online order to change status. :p

SL4IN
10-26-2007, 04:03 AM
played a bit of jeanne d'arc tonight and it's good stuff. other than that, tried out castlevania: DXC and it's ok, but not worti it right now in my opinion with everything else that I'm getting.


can't wait until next week when I'm getting disgaea: afternoon of darkness and dementium: the ward.

red flare graf
10-26-2007, 04:08 AM
Guitar Hero II, as usual.. Shit's like all I play anymore.

Contemplating some more Crysis.

gunm
10-26-2007, 06:05 AM
More Zack & Wiki tonight. Solving some of the puzzles literally puts a smile on my face. Gonna try DL'ing GT5 Prologue now before going to bed.

The Mana Knight
10-26-2007, 10:56 AM
Jeanne D'arc doesn't seem to be too hard. I'm making progress and I suck at SRPG's.I have found Jeanne D'Arc to be pretty tough, and I haven't even made it too far yet. I really need to play it more.

I played some Ratchet & Clank Future last night and progressed a level. There definitely seems to be more platforming then there has been in the last few Ratchet games. I've actually tried the SIXAXIS controls in the game and like them (I even decided to fly with the SIXAXIS).

I'm probably going to open Blue Dragon tonight finally.

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 11:04 AM
Went shopping today and got...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2337/1753512048_194e28a3d0.jpg

fuck help me for the next two months... X_X

Nice pickups... except for what I think is Tenchu DS in the upper left :lol:. But yeah, can't argue with the rest. Can't wait for my own shopping spree today.

PyroGamer
10-26-2007, 11:06 AM
Well, everything on the left I'd skip. The rest.... *drools*

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 11:37 AM
Silent Hill Origins is out?

Hmmm whats the price on that thing? Im pretty tempted to get it? Where does it fall in the SH storyline?

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 12:12 PM
I bought 7 games myself Wednesday. This week was pretty crazy for releases.

Speaking of which, Jericho is a lot better than I thought it would be. It's not great, but I'm definitely enjoying it.

Also online in Ace Combat 6 is awesome. If anyone wants to play be sure to invite me!

Jesus_S_Preston
10-26-2007, 12:27 PM
I really like the box for Eye of Judgment.


Holy crap, Silent Hill Origins is out?

SL4IN
10-26-2007, 12:32 PM
yeah same here, I had no idea silent hill origins came out this week. I want it, but I don't know if I should buy it since I already have quite a bit that I'm buying in the next few weeks to come.

gonna play some more jeanne d'arc this afternoon. I really like it.

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 12:59 PM
I just looked it up and SH:Origins does not come out until like the 6th of november. How the hell did you get it so early mark?

RelentlessRolento
10-26-2007, 01:49 PM
I like the box for both EoJ and Silent Hill... alot of nice pretty covers out this fall.

MarkMan
10-26-2007, 02:11 PM
Hi guys. :)

And Naruto DS and Tenchu DS were only 9 bucks, couldn't pass up...

Logg
10-26-2007, 02:15 PM
I picked up PD0, Kameo and Just Cause yesterday at Kmat

I really like Just Cause even if it only last 10 hours it was cheap and pretty.

Logg
10-26-2007, 02:17 PM
SRPGs are my very favourite genre.

To bad I only have a 360 now, at least I have Band of Bugs I need to get the expansions.

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 02:39 PM
Hi guys. :)

And Naruto DS and Tenchu DS were only 9 bucks, couldn't pass up...

Yeah, but it doesent explain how you get SH:Origins two weeks early.

gunm
10-26-2007, 02:41 PM
Also online in Ace Combat 6 is awesome. If anyone wants to play be sure to invite me!

Really? Not too laggy? I'll play...still need to take the wrapping off that guy, though.



Yeah, I got a few games this week myself, although only two are "in-hand" right now: Zack & Wiki and Ace Combat 6. EOJ and R&C:Future are still in online mail order limbo land. :p

jer7583
10-26-2007, 02:46 PM
MarkMan's a journalist, i think? He gets stuff early all the time. Or it's one of those cover art things from E for All that they were giving out.

Zack and Wiki is good. Great puzzles, great visuals. Controls work excellently. If you don't like this game, your heart is as black and cold as your soul.

MarkMan
10-26-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm just some homeless dude...

whoknows
10-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Ratchet and Clank Future is the best next gen game so far says I.

IMO of course so don't flame me :hot:

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 03:04 PM
Really? Not too laggy? I'll play...still need to take the wrapping off that guy, though
Nope, haven't hit any noticeable lag yet. The only problem I have with it so far is people who spam the QAAMs. So cheap.

Dark Slayer120
10-26-2007, 03:08 PM
Ratchet and Clank Future is the best next gen game so far says I.

IMO of course so don't flame me :hot:

Finally got rid of the Darkness eh for best game? Lol sad thing is I had no idea it was even out yet, I might pick it up today or something.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 03:10 PM
I still <3 The Darkness, but I can't ignore Ratchet, it's just so good.

And you had no idea Ratchet was out?

Dark Slayer120
10-26-2007, 03:19 PM
I still <3 The Darkness, but I can't ignore Ratchet, it's just so good.

And you had no idea Ratchet was out?
No, I thought it was in stores the 30th for some reason. I am usually pretty up to date on game releases as well, especially games I am looking forward too. Surprised I let this one slip by me. I might pick it up today or tomorrow after work. Is it really easy like the demo, or does the challenge pick up?

whoknows
10-26-2007, 03:24 PM
No, I thought it was in stores the 30th for some reason. I am usually pretty up to date on game releases as well, especially games I am looking forward too. Surprised I let this one slip by me. I might pick it up today or tomorrow after work. Is it really easy like the demo, or does the challenge pick up?
It was the 23rd, then the 30th, and then at the last minute got pushed back up. Awesomeness. Happened with LAIR too, except that came out on a Friday.

And no, you don't say you "might" pick it up, you go and buy it. NOW.

Apossum
10-26-2007, 03:25 PM
google ad for this thread: asian girls for marriage ;_;

just playing some Bleach DS...so good.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 03:44 PM
Ratchet and Clank Future is the best next gen game so far says I.

IMO of course so don't flame me :hot:

Well, Mario Galaxy isn't out yet, so that's fair.

daroga
10-26-2007, 03:47 PM
There's so many good games out and so little time to play them all. Freaking school / life.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 03:49 PM
Well, Mario Galaxy isn't out yet, so that's fair.
I suppose, but one of the reasons I love the R&C games so much aside from the tight gameplay is the humor. I remember Skid McMarx from the first game. Pure Gold :lol:

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 03:57 PM
google ad for this thread: asian girls for marriage ;_;

just playing some Bleach DS...so good.

Im realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llly interested in this one. Tell me where does it go to in the story line. Ive almost caught back up with the manga.

I just kinda stopped watching the anime after it felt like de be ze.

Whats the fighting like?

zewone
10-26-2007, 03:59 PM
lol @ platformers being the best games ever.

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 04:02 PM
lol @ platformers being the best games ever.
Add another "lol" from me.

Well, Mass Effect isn't out yet, so that's fair.
Fixed.

botticus
10-26-2007, 04:06 PM
Hmm... zewone doesn't think a platformer can be the best game ever... and I highly doubt he's inferring an RPG as Rei is. Shit. Looks like it might be one of those damned subjective ideas again.

But for clarity, platformer is the correct answer.

zewone
10-26-2007, 04:16 PM
More than me just disagreeing about platformers, I lol @ the idea.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 04:17 PM
More than me just disagreeing about platformers, I lol @ the idea.
If not platformers then what?

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 04:18 PM
If not platformers then what?

Games of the Third or First person where you shoot people. There really arent enough of those.

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 04:19 PM
If not platformers then what?
Anything except sports games.

daroga
10-26-2007, 04:23 PM
Platformers aren't the best games ever? Huh.

How can Mario 3 be the greatest game ever made then?

Objective Fact!

Apossum
10-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Im realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llly interested in this one. Tell me where does it go to in the story line. Ive almost caught back up with the manga.

I just kinda stopped watching the anime after it felt like de be ze.

Whats the fighting like?

The story takes place over the first season. like most anime games, it tells the story with worse writing, no animation, and no coherence, while inserting little side things that make no sense. Not that the story is important.

the fighting is like Guilty Gear and Melty Blood, but more simplified. There's a card system that gives you various temporary power ups. It's really fast, really insane, but not all that deep or balanced. There are some higher level combos and strats to learn though. Most importantly, like a lot of Treasure games, it's just plain fun!

zewone
10-26-2007, 04:28 PM
If not platformers then what?
Me personally, I would want something with a moving story, which I've never seen in a platformer (which also rules out puzzle and sports games).

daroga
10-26-2007, 04:29 PM
Me personally, I would want something with a moving story, which I've never seen in a platformer (which also rules out puzzle and sports games).Come'on, Portal! ;)

MarkMan
10-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Having played both Super Mario Galaxy and Rachet & Clank Future: ToD... My heart goes to Super Mario Galaxy.

It's THAT good!

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 04:32 PM
Come'on, Portal! ;)
Hell yeah!

zewone
10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Come'on, Portal! ;)
Portal is in it's own category (first person puzzle shooter comedy).

daroga
10-26-2007, 04:35 PM
Portal is in it's own category (first person puzzle shooter comedy).Fair enough. :)

I've never been as surprised by a game in my life as I was with Portal. I went in expecting mind-bending gameplay and ended up with that and way more.

If it wasn't for Mario Galaxy coming soon I'd probably name Portal my game of the year, but I've gotta let the portly plumber weigh in on the scale too.

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 04:37 PM
Portal is mine until Mass Effect comes out.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Mass Effect sure has a lot of hype...too bad it comes out the same day as Uncharted which there's no way I'll pass up.

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm buying both day 1, but lets just say I probably won't get to Uncharted for a couple weeks.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 04:45 PM
If I could only have one game for the rest of the year Uncharted would be it. I'll get Mass Effect eventually, but with other November releases not sure I'll be able to afford it.

zewone
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Uncharted is going to need close to perfect scores for me to even think about picking it up.

Apossum
10-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Not too interested in Dude Raider. Mass Effect looks good. Hopefully it'll get a PC port, there's too much other stuff to play right now...

ighosty
10-26-2007, 05:09 PM
about 11 hours into blue dragon, still need to finish HL2, still need to finish the SKATE campaign, and have ratchet comin from gamefly.

InuFaye
10-26-2007, 05:32 PM
Is anyone else starting to think that Rock Band might be shit? I mean its losing features left and right and the song set just kinda sucks. Im having second thoughts about this bundle.

Im def gonna get Mass Effect and Uncharted looks pretty good although it needs to differentiate itself from other games more. Tomb Raider im looking at choo.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 05:36 PM
Not too interested in Dude Raider. Mass Effect looks good. Hopefully it'll get a PC port, there's too much other stuff to play right now...

No, that's Gears of Dude Raider.

Mario Galaxy and Mass Effect are the only things left in the year that's in contention. Portal, Halo 3, Bioshock, Metroid Prime 3 are all contenders as well.

I think Super Mario Galaxy just looks so new and unique. I get the same feeling as when I first saw Mario 64 when I see that game, it just looks so damn fun to just jump around and have fun doing whatever. The way it's using gravity as a gameplay element is awesome too. Ratchet is really just high def ratchet, a series I've never been able to play much of without getting bored, honestly.

Orange Box should get GOTY just because if you were able to buy just one game for the entire year, you'd be crazy to suggest anything else due to the rediculous amount of content in that package.

Jesus_S_Preston
10-26-2007, 05:51 PM
Shivering Isles is pretty much taking all my time up right now.

I'm also at the part in Jeanne D'arc where you Get Jeanne back and Liane goes is arrested.

Jimbo Slice
10-26-2007, 06:02 PM
You crazy guys must've forgot about Fighting games, everyone know's they're the best genre. I mean, if you were trapped on a desert island, what would you rather have: Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo or Ratchet & Clank? Honestly.

I think Uncharted looks hellaciously gay. Mario Galaxies and Mass Effect both look awesome, but I'll probably Gamefly them.

Call of Duty 4 (360 of course) is the only game I plan on buying for the rest of the year. That always changes though, as I generally cave and buy more games than I want to.

I'm actually thinking about selling my PS2 PS3 (20 GB w/ 6 games downloaded onto it) if anyone is interested. PM me for more details if you want.

Edit: PS3, not 2.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 06:11 PM
hellaciously gay

daroga
10-26-2007, 06:31 PM
"Beat" Castlevania and found the things to get SotN and Rondo unlocked. Good stuff. :)

jer7583
10-26-2007, 06:37 PM
I'm still stuck on stage 4 with my mediocre skills.

hankmecrankme
10-26-2007, 06:41 PM
I am probably the only person who isn't hyped up for Mass Effect. It sounds interesting, but the last Bioware game I played, Jade Empire, was trash, IMO. I have a friend that's thinking about buying it, so I'll get to try it without paying for it. If it's great, I'll probably pick it up.

I was surprised by how good Halo 3 was, after not caring for 2. Multiplayer was the only good thing about 2.

As far as the end of the year goes, I'm getting KOF XI, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, Fire Pro Returns, Phoenix Wright 3, maybe the hellaciously gay Uncharted, Unreal Tourny 3 PC, Gears of War PC, and maybe Crysis.

Back to the Orange Box.

Rei no Otaku
10-26-2007, 07:11 PM
I think he means a PC port for Mass Effect.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 07:13 PM
I think he means a PC port for Mass Effect.
Consider me wrong and look as I stealth delete the post so no one ever knows


In any case, doesn't EA have the control to do that now?

The Mana Knight
10-26-2007, 07:16 PM
I am probably the only person who isn't hyped up for Mass Effect. It sounds interesting, but the last Bioware game I played, Jade Empire, was trash, IMO. I have a friend that's thinking about buying it, so I'll get to try it without paying for it. If it's great, I'll probably pick it up.

I was surprised by how good Halo 3 was, after not caring for 2. Multiplayer was the only good thing about 2.

As far as the end of the year goes, I'm getting KOF XI, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, Fire Pro Returns, Phoenix Wright 3, maybe the hellaciously gay Uncharted, Unreal Tourny 3 PC, Gears of War PC, and maybe Crysis.

Back to the Orange Box.You're not the only one. I really didn't like KOTOR, Jade Empire, and many of their PC RPGs at all, but this is coming from absolutely hates western RPGs (I'm 100% JRPG exclusive. I'm not fan of Oblivion either). Mass Effect looks nice graphically, but I have zero interests. I much rather buy DDR Universe 2 or Naruto on 360. ;)
I think Uncharted looks hellaciously gay. Mario Galaxies and Mass Effect both look awesome, but I'll probably Gamefly them.
Uncharted looks very sweet to me, but the main reason I want it is because Naughty Dog is making it, and I liked every Naughty Dog game too much (I even met a few of the Naughty Dog employees, like Neil, Richard, etc.). Although, my interests for Uncharted isn't as high as other Naughty Dog games in the past because it isn't a platformer or racer (like Jak X, which I really liked).

PyroGamer
10-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Consider me wrong and look as I stealth delete the post so no one ever knows


In any case, doesn't EA have the control to do that now?
Do what? A PC port?

If there is not a PC Mass Effect port then I will eat my shoe..... my baked cake-shoe. You can quote me on that.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 07:45 PM
The good thing about Western RPGs is they aren't stuck in a rut of backwards, game ruining conventions that their hardest core fans will whine about if they're changed.

Imagine if Square or Level 5 made a first person RPG. Or an RPG with the battle system complexity of Ninja Gaiden. Or an RPG that doesn't have battles. People would be up in arms. Insert anime, random battles, statistics, menus, unskippable cinemas, "save the world" plot, stereotypical characters, silent protagonist, and let simmer for 40-60 hours, pull out JRPG.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Wait...what would you do in an RPG with no battles?

Dark Slayer120
10-26-2007, 07:47 PM
It was the 23rd, then the 30th, and then at the last minute got pushed back up. Awesomeness. Happened with LAIR too, except that came out on a Friday.

And no, you don't say you "might" pick it up, you go and buy it. NOW.

Lol I will get it probably tomorrow after work. ;) Gots to remember all the awesome games coming out next month though. Have to make sure I have enough money for all of that. Also I don't get why some of you don't think platformers can be goty material. It would sure break up all the FPS and 3rd person shooters out there. Ratchet has always had a decent story, awesome game play, and the humor is top notch. Not to mention the graphics are great, tons of replay value, as well as the music. R&C is the best platformer out there IMO, and isn't SMB3 one of the best games of all time? Seems to me it's a platformer. ;)

PyroGamer
10-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Wait...what would you do in an RPG with no battles?
Sarcasm?

jer7583
10-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Wait...what would you do in an RPG with no battles?

Congratulations for proving my point. Should RPGs be about battles? It's amazing that you found this idea so incredulous and backwards to the idea of an RPG. Although it's endemic of all videogames. Why can't there be a game that's compelling without conflict? I read plenty of stories and watch plenty of movies that contain almost no conflict, yet we come to expect it in videogames. Nothing should be sacred and the results of flipping genre conventions on their head have often turned out amazing. Just look at portal. Aside from it's ending conflict, is nothing like a FPS "should" be, according to some people. Phoenix Wright is another good example of containing a quality story without need for some hokey battle system.


Puzzle Quest comes to mind.. As does Myst, and Day of the Tentacle, and almost all of the adventure game genre which are basically RPGs without most of the bullshit. A shame that genre died out instead of the JRPG. I blame FF7's pretty cinemas.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Lol I will get it probably tomorrow after work. ;) Gots to remember all the awesome games coming out next month though. Have to make sure I have enough money for all of that. Also I don't get why some of you don't think platformers can be goty material. It would sure break up all the FPS and 3rd person shooters out there. Ratchet has always had a decent story, awesome game play, and the humor is top notch. Not to mention the graphics are great, tons of replay value, as well as the music. R&C is the best platformer out there IMO, and isn't SMB3 one of the best games of all time? Seems to me it's a platformer. ;)

Yeah, there are a lot coming out next month, but how many of those games have a Lombax and robot duo? That's right, none! Plus Stefan Qwarkanopolis is only in Ratchet and Clank

Sarcasm?
Didn't look like it, and if it was it wasn't very good internet sarcasm :-P

Dark Slayer120
10-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Yeah, there are a lot coming out next month, but how many of those games have a Lombax and robot duo? That's right, none! Plus Stefan Qwarkanopolis is only in Ratchet and Clank


You got me there my friend. ;)

whoknows
10-26-2007, 08:09 PM
Congratulations for proving my point. Should RPGs be about battles? It's amazing that you found this idea so incredulous and backwards to the idea of an RPG. Although it's endemic of all videogames. Why can't there be a game that's compelling without conflict? I read plenty of stories and watch plenty of movies that contain almost no conflict, yet we come to expect it in videogames. Nothing should be sacred and the results of flipping genre conventions on their head have often turned out amazing. Just look at portal. Aside from it's ending conflict, is nothing like a FPS "should" be, according to some people. Phoenix Wright is another good example of containing a quality story without need for some hokey battle system.


Puzzle Quest comes to mind.. As does Myst, and Day of the Tentacle, and almost all of the adventure game genre which are basically RPGs without most of the bullshit. A shame that genre died out instead of the JRPG. I blame FF7's pretty cinemas.
Oh, you're serious.

Wow.

Well, you enjoy your RPG's with no battles, I however like games where something happens.

Dark Slayer120
10-26-2007, 08:11 PM
Oh, you're serious.

Wow.

Well, you enjoy your RPG's with no battles, I however like games where something happens.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

jer7583
10-26-2007, 08:25 PM
You HONESTLY believe that if an RPG was to remove battles, no matter what else they did or added, it would be a game where "Nothing happens"?

What a closed-minded view. I think "battles" in the traditional, FF inspired sense are what holds the genre back. Clunky, outdated gameplay notions. Even Final Fantasy realized this and has been moving away from "battles" as of late in FFXII. Still fighting, but smoothing and automating the tedium. One of the few things that game did right, IMO, and FFXIII looks to be moving even further away. How about Kingdom Hearts? Does "nothing happen" in that game because there's no clear divider between battle and story?

whoknows
10-26-2007, 08:34 PM
You HONESTLY believe that if an RPG was to remove battles, no matter what else they did or added, it would be a game where "Nothing happens"?

What a closed-minded view. I think "battles" in the traditional, FF inspired sense are what holds the genre back. Clunky, outdated gameplay notions. Even Final Fantasy realized this and has been moving away from "battles" as of late in FFXII. Still fighting, but smoothing and automating the tedium. One of the few things that game did right, IMO, and FFXIII looks to be moving even further away. How about Kingdom Hearts? Does "nothing happen" in that game because there's no clear divider between battle and story?
Kingdom Hearts has battles, lots of them actually. I really enjoyed the 1000 Heartless battle in KH2.

And they would have to do some drastic things to have no battles and keep the game interesting.

The Mana Knight
10-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Imagine if Square or Level 5 made a first person RPG. Yuck. First Person games are already bad enough. I rather them keep it out of RPGs (one reason I hated Kings Field so badly). Shining the Holy Ark on Saturn wasn't too bad, but I still didn't like its first person dungeon exploration.
Or an RPG with the battle system complexity of Ninja Gaiden.I prefer RPGs with a more simple combat system (or one like Kingdom Hearts, Threads of Fate, etc.), but I cannot deny doing lots of combos wouldn't be half bad.
Or an RPG that doesn't have battles.OMG WTF.
People would be up in arms. Insert anime, random battles, statistics, menus, unskippable cinemas, "save the world" plot, stereotypical characters, silent protagonist, and let simmer for 40-60 hours, pull out JRPG.I just love those anime RPGs with a whinny or silent spikey hair young man who wakes up sleepy eyed (or washed up on shore) and completely forgets his past. I just can't get enough of those RPGs. ;)
Kingdom Hearts has battles, lots of them actually. I really enjoyed the 1000 Heartless battle in KH2.

And they would have to do some drastic things to have no battles and keep the game interesting.OMG I freaking love KH2 so much. I can play that game over and over again who knows how many times (like battling) and never get sick of it. I also really love the characters, especially Sora. I felt teary eyed during a few certain scenes.

RelentlessRolento
10-26-2007, 08:40 PM
going to finally play Contact (meant to nearly a year ago) and Elite Beat Agents due to a random find at BB where they had a sale of a few good games for $10 each.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 08:41 PM
going to finally play Contact (meant to nearly a year ago) and Elite Beat Agents due to a random find at BB where they had a sale of a few good games for $10 each.
I'd love to find EBA for $10.

Lucky.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Kingdom Hearts has battles, lots of them actually. I really enjoyed the 1000 Heartless battle in KH2.

And they would have to do some drastic things to have no battles and keep the game interesting.

So did I. But it was not a "battle" per se. Your controls or perspective did not drastically change as it does in a typical JRPG "battle" and the game was better off for that. I still wonder why anyone would be so tied to the most boring, repetitive part of JRPGs.. Most of them don't even know how to move the average encounter past hitting the Fight command 4 times and watching the same victory animation and song you've heard 20 times in the past hour.

How about if all that fragmented gameplay was removed, and replaced with smart puzzles, and 4-5 longer, more strategic battles throughout the course of the game?

Right, because then they couldn't just be cloning the same game they've been making for 20 years and spoon feed it to manbabies.

whoknows
10-26-2007, 08:47 PM
So did I. But it was not a "battle" per se. Your controls or perspective did not drastically change as it does in a typical JRPG "battle" and the game was better off for that. I still wonder why anyone would be so tied to the most boring, repetitive part of JRPGs.. Most of them don't even know how to move the average encounter past hitting the Fight command 4 times and watching the same victory animation and song you've heard 20 times in the past hour.

How about if all that fragmented gameplay was removed, and replaced with smart puzzles, and 4-5 longer, more strategic battles throughout the course of the game?

Right, because then they couldn't just be cloning the same game they've been making for 20 years and spoon feed it to manbabies.
I'm not disagreeing with you per se since I don't play many JRPG's and the ones I don't have turn based battles or random battles (aka the Tales games or Radiata Stories, my favorite RPG).

So yeah, I enjoy RPG's due to the story depth, but I don't enjoy grinding and having to go through the same types of battles over and over.

Good enough?

RelentlessRolento
10-26-2007, 08:47 PM
I'd love to find EBA for $10.

Lucky.


yeah, it was the last thing I'd thought I'd see. I was going there to see if they were carrying Eye of Judgment but picked up these two DS games instead due to the surprise sale.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 08:51 PM
yeah, exactly my point. And talking about JRPGs makes me want to play suikoden, but I sold them. And Sony said no to the Suiko 1&2 port for PSP. How sad is that?

Just thought of something else. Shenmue. This game had such good ideas, but took one form of tedium and repetition and replaced it with two more for every one it took out. Such a shame.

zewone
10-26-2007, 08:56 PM
And Sony said no to the Suiko 1&2 port for PSP. How sad is that.
It was ported to the PSP, just not translated into English for us Americans. :cry:

jer7583
10-26-2007, 08:58 PM
Because SCEA hates 2D. (and they killed working designs) Especially at that time when the PSP was trying to be hip and urban. Suiko is absolutely not Hip nor Urban.

The Mana Knight
10-26-2007, 09:14 PM
yeah, exactly my point. And talking about JRPGs makes me want to play suikoden, but I sold them. And Sony said no to the Suiko 1&2 port for PSP. How sad is that?It was because the game lacked 30% or more new content. PS1 ports were originally not allowed unless there was a certain amount of new content. Mega Man Legends 1 and 2, Breath of Fire III, Tales of Eternia, etc. were blocked due to lacking enough new content. There was an entire thread discussing about it over a year ago. It has nothing to do with being 2D, it had to do with lacking new content. SCEA wants to encourage developers not to do straight PS1 ports, since they are quick and easy to do (If they did, they better be a download).

SL4IN
10-26-2007, 09:20 PM
played guitar hero 3 for a few hours this afternoon, probably will play more tonight.

also advanced further in jeann d'arc which i'm enjoying thoroughly. Also started tales of eternia on the psp as well. good stuff.

zewone
10-26-2007, 09:21 PM
It was because the game lacked 30% or more new content. PS1 ports were originally not allowed unless there was a certain amount of new content. Mega Man Legends 1 and 2, Breath of Fire III, Tales of Eternia, etc. were blocked due to lacking enough new content. There was an entire thread discussing about it over a year ago. It has nothing to do with being 2D, it had to do with lacking new content. SCEA wants to encourage developers not to do straight PS1 ports, since they are quick and easy to do (If they did, they better be a download).
:lol:

Any how do they break new content down into a percentage?

The Crotch
10-26-2007, 10:20 PM
Wait...what would you do in an RPG with no battles?...

Dating sim?

daroga
10-26-2007, 10:27 PM
RPG with no battles... that sounds like a good option for a story-based game. Like, just about every point-and-click adventure game ever made.

gunm
10-26-2007, 10:45 PM
Forgot to mention, was able to try a short bit of GT5 Prologue this morning before work...much much improved over GTHD. I need the full game and a PS3 wheel.

Hm, I need a 360 wheel too.

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 10:47 PM
sigh... why must I update to play Castlevania. Don't make me wait, bitch-PSP.

daroga
10-26-2007, 10:49 PM
sigh... why must I update to play Castlevania. Don't make me wait, bitch-PSP.What firmware were you running before you put it in?

PyroGamer
10-26-2007, 10:55 PM
Didn't look like it, and if it was it wasn't very good internet sarcasm :-P
Well in that case the sweet irony is too much to bear.

You're a living example of what jr was talking about ;)

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 11:23 PM
What firmware were you running before you put it in?

3.12 or something.

Anyway, I played through stage 3 of Rondo and yeah... go buy it, kids.

Only thing I don't like about the game is that it's on PSP. The screen is still a piece of shit and the controls still suck.

Need to get a slim sometime... sigh.

daroga
10-26-2007, 11:25 PM
Only thing I don't like about the game is that it's on PSP. The screen is still a piece of shit and the controls still suck.
http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/pspdpadfix/pspdpadfix.htm

I bought the pre-made things. It makes all the difference.

Puffa469
10-26-2007, 11:29 PM
Just finished catching up on some 360 stuff.

Need For Speed Prostreet demo - CRAP

Battlestar Galactica demo - CRAP

EXIT demo - AWESOME!

and I watched some vids that I hadnt seen yet. Some crappy Jap rpg stuff, but by far the best thing was this Halo vid that combined real actors with CG. That vid was crazy! I actually left it on my drive so I can watch it again later.

SL4IN
10-26-2007, 11:30 PM
http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/pspdpadfix/pspdpadfix.htm

I bought the pre-made things. It makes all the difference.

that's quite a little mod there. really interesting.

and yes, the d-pad is infinitely better on the slim, one of the first things I noticed when I started playing guilty gear on it last night. I'm kind of in a fighting mood, might pick up tekken: DR tomorrow or sometime next week.

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 11:48 PM
http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/pspdpadfix/pspdpadfix.htm

I bought the pre-made things. It makes all the difference.

I've seen those. Seems like too much work for me, personally. I'm really pretty lazy... I just want to get a slim at this point.

botticus
10-27-2007, 12:38 AM
Played through the first case of PW3, it's as good as always.

Rei no Otaku
10-27-2007, 12:45 AM
I'm in the second case of PW3. It was neat because it was two cases in one (you'll see what I mean).

Played a ton of Ratchet and Clank today. Game is a lot of fun.

MarkMan
10-27-2007, 02:41 AM
Breezed through Castlevania rondo remake today... Did it in one sitting, unlocked everything...

A lot of ppl are complaining about the difficulty... I just have to say if you do, you're a Castlevania n00b (After SOTN'r) or you're a gaming pussy... All you have to do is get used to the game/patterns...

But yea...

Onto Victorious Boxers Wii :) !

RelentlessRolento
10-27-2007, 02:46 AM
Onto Victorious Boxers Wii :) !


post impressions... whenever I pick up a Wii I possibly am thinking of getting it.

jer7583
10-27-2007, 03:11 AM
Whatever Sony's BS reason, they deserve their 3rd place position this gen as Karmic retribution for denying the US easily attainable Suiko 1&2.

I have to wonder where the 30% new content was on Tekken:DR, or Valkyrie Profile, or PaRappa the Rapper, or all the PS2 ports the system got. Not a real reason and typical Sony bull.

And yeah, I realized halfway through my post that an RPG with no battles is an adventure game and I absolutely love those. It's just too bad that those have all but disappeared, while NIS is thriving.

I should try that D-Pad mod. The pad is far too mushy. It doesn't solve the problem of not having smooth diagonal areas that every Sony pad has always had, though. I don't understand why anybody makes a D-Pad that is not as exact as possible a replica of the Japanese Saturn's D-Pad, as it was the best and will always be the best.

red flare graf
10-27-2007, 04:07 AM
Crysis single player demo is freakin' sweet, dude.

RelentlessRolento
10-27-2007, 05:17 AM
I have to wonder where the 30% new content was on Tekken:DR, or Valkyrie Profile, or PaRappa the Rapper, or all the PS2 ports the system got. Not a real reason and typical Sony bull.




with Tekken DR I saw roughly 70% more new content (80% if you took into account stuff only hardcore players would know).

Parappa on the other hand... bad bad port.

MarkMan
10-27-2007, 06:14 AM
Tekken 5 to Tekken DR had a LOT of changes/tweaks...

System wise, character specifics, stages/music, customizations, etc...

Lots of goodies...

gunm
10-27-2007, 06:20 AM
No games for me tonight. Just got back from seeing Appleseed Ex Machina at the Hawaii International Film Festival. The story was predicatable, but the CGI animation was awesome. Makes me want to import the Masterpiece movie toys from Japan. The director was in attendance, which was cool, too.

I snapped a cell phone pic of some Taiwanese actress on the way out of the theater. She was wearing a very short loli-ish dress. Wish I had taken some pics when I saw "Finishing the Game" earlier in the week.

The Mana Knight
10-27-2007, 08:42 AM
I have to wonder where the 30% new content was on Tekken:DR, or Valkyrie Profile, or PaRappa the Rapper, or all the PS2 ports the system got. Not a real reason and typical Sony bull. Tekken: DR was NOT a PS1 game (it was a PS2 game and PS2 games did NOT require the new content due to being mostly new) and it content was mostly different from the PS2 one (Tekken Dojo, bowling mode, etc. were not in the PS2 version. I have all Tekken 5 games and can make the comparison). Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth added new scenes (in beautiful CG). PaRappa The Rapper had downloads and such added, which gave it the clear (Well, it mostly came stateside because SCEE did the translation for Europe, and since it had English translation already, brining it took no effort and costs very little). There just has to be new content in some way since SCEA did not want devs doing the same thing they did with GBA (trying to repackage old ports at full price). You do need to understand though that those people who use to screen third party games have completely changed over a year ago (according to many publishers), which does explain why certain games were allowed as of late. SCEA had some control because on PS2 for an example, if a publisher wanted to release an SNES port and sell it for $50, that just be plain stupid (because an SNES game running on PS2 would cost very little to make) and the graphics are very far behind. SCEA just wants some effort being put making it a PS2 game (if it was an RPG with decent length (so it could be full price), classical compilation, budget game, etc., 2D was okay).

From what I heard though, Suikoden I & II was never denied in the first place, because the game could have at least come to Europe (SCEE will accept it), but it never did (BoFIII and ToE). I heard it didn't come because Suikoden I & II just weren't all that popular (Konami didn't exactly bring every PSP game they made stateside anyway). I have Suikoden I & II anyway. :-P You need to understand that SCEA != Sony, because SCEE and SCEI ALL have different policies.


I should try that D-Pad mod. The pad is far too mushy. It doesn't solve the problem of not having smooth diagonal areas that every Sony pad has always had, though. I don't understand why anybody makes a D-Pad that is not as exact as possible a replica of the Japanese Saturn's D-Pad, as it was the best and will always be the best.Buy a new PSP-2000. ;) It definitely fixes the D-pad issue (the D-pad on it is perfect). I'll be honest that 25% of the reason I bought it was for a new D-pad, better buttons, and better analog nub.

Anyway, played some Warhawk last night with CAG. That was a lot of fun and I'm glad the server remained stable the entire time too. Also started Blue Dragon last night too. Fun game, but I need to play more.

Jimbo Slice
10-27-2007, 11:01 AM
Tekken: DR was NOT a PS1 game (it was a PS2 game and PS2 games did NOT require the new content due to being mostly new) and it content was mostly different from the PS2 one (Tekken Dojo, bowling mode, etc. were not in the PS2 version. I have all Tekken 5 games and can make the comparison).

OBJECTION!

Tekken 5 DR was not a PS2 game at all. It was an arcade game based on the Tekken 5 game engine. Tekken 5 (revision 5.0) came out on PS2. Tekken DR features new moves, stages, customization items, artwork and characters compared to regular Tekken 5.

The Mana Knight
10-27-2007, 12:02 PM
OBJECTION!

Tekken 5 DR was not a PS2 game at all. It was an arcade game based on the Tekken 5 game engine. Tekken 5 (revision 5.0) came out on PS2. Tekken DR features new moves, stages, customization items, artwork and characters compared to regular Tekken 5.
Yeah, you're right. Jer kind of got me off track again.

Need For Speed Prostreet demo - CRAP

Battlestar Galactica demo - CRAP
I actually kind of liked the NFS Prostreet demo, but this is coming from a NFS fan (The only EA series along with NBA Street that I like). Although I'm having a hard time figuring out if its more sim (like Forza/GT) or more arcade like such as previous NFS games (like Most Wanted, Carbon, etc.). IMO, the game felt exactly like Most Wanted, but slightly different setting.

I downloaded Battlestar Galactica and still gotta play it.

Oh yeah, I finally downloaded the Conan demo (looking like God of War made me want to try it) and deleted it after playing it for 5 minutes, lol.

Hopefully my friend comes by today to play some games with me. I'm about to play Ratchet or some PS3 game.

pete5883
10-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Because SCEA hates 2D.
Which is why they cancelled Odin Sphere, Grim Grimoire, the Disgaeas, Fire Pro Wrestling, Valkyrie Profile...oh wait.

I think VP's new cutscenes were what earned it its release though.

SL4IN
10-27-2007, 12:44 PM
got work today so I'll be onthe psp playing some jeanne d'arc and tales of eternia. then tonight I gots to study :(

Chibi_Kaji
10-27-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm at the last case in Phoenix Wright 3. I must admit this looks like it will be a pretty interesting case.

Also I have gotten past stage 4 in Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles. I haven't really been playing too much since PW3 has been eating up alot of my time. I have also unlocked SOTN, when I started loading the game I thought my PSP was going to burst into flames. Is the loading any better on the PSP Slim?

jer7583
10-27-2007, 01:02 PM
There was no translation required on the Suikoden ports, and $100+ ebay auctions(this is not an isolated incident, the prices have stayed consistent since a few years of it's release) for Suikoden 2 alone says otherwise about demand. Konami's continued support of the series says otherwise as well.

Whatever the excuse, Sony didn't allow it, and that's bullcrap. Mana flipped on his previous reason about it not having 30% new content into "it just wasn't that popular" so I'm confused.

Why should I buy a "new" PSP when this fix is probably the same thing Sony did, remove the travel distance between the D-Pad and contacts. TV out can now be done with custom firmware, playing from the memory stick improves load time at least as much, and the new systems have worse battery life.

I got my PSP for $100 with a 1 gig memory stick and a game, why would I go out and spend another $170 for a marginally better model? Besides, I'd have to redo all my custom firmware stuff and it's not worth the hassle.

I somehow finished Rondo Of Blood remake last night in a drunken, half asleep stupor after some friends left. I was a little disappointed in the last couple stages as they were a bit short and mainly boss encounters. Still a great game.

Apossum
10-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Valkyrie Profile had new content-- CG cutscenes. The first one with Jelanda is worth the price:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMSOpe3aXUE

SL4IN
10-27-2007, 03:50 PM
yeah I remember watching that and thinking WTF????

RelentlessRolento
10-27-2007, 06:14 PM
oddly first thing I thought when I saw that playing it was: Hentai?

Chacrana
10-27-2007, 06:18 PM
oddly first thing I thought when I saw that playing it was: Hentai?

I was disappointed.

whoknows
10-27-2007, 06:22 PM
The ship parts in Tools of Destruction are so good, I just got done with the second one. It looked so good graphically with all the fire and stuff, probably the best looking level in any game ever I've seen. I especially like how you aim with the right stick and control the ship with the left, it works really well.

Nintendo should hire Insomniac to make the next Starfox game so it would actually turn out well.

Jesus_S_Preston
10-27-2007, 06:27 PM
Still Shivering Isles. I WOULD play Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters, which I picked up at Gamestop, but the damn thing won't play in my PSP.

whoknows
10-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Still Shivering Isles. I WOULD play Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters, which I picked up at Gamestop, but the damn thing won't play in my PSP.
What's wrong with it? Will it just not recognize the disc or what?

RelentlessRolento
10-27-2007, 06:46 PM
I was disappointed.


I do think it qualifies for rape, so at least it filled about 50% of the aspect of hentai.

Chacrana
10-27-2007, 06:54 PM
I do think it qualifies for rape, so at least it filled about 50% of the aspect of hentai.

The other 50% is visable insertion, and I was grossly disappointed by the lack of such stimului.

Jesus_S_Preston
10-27-2007, 07:06 PM
What's wrong with it? Will it just not recognize the disc or what?

No goddamn clue. I put it in and start it up, and I just get a black screen post-PSP Logo.

Chacrana
10-27-2007, 10:33 PM
Okay, I unlocked Symphony of the Night on Dracula X Chronicles and I played a little bit past the first boss, so not too far... here's my notes on this version of the game:

- Frame rate is better than the PS1 version. This is liquid smooth. I can all but guarantee that all the slowdown in the PS1 version is gone (and the slowdown got fucking bad in the PS1 version.)

- A lot of the sound effects have changed. I don't want to say that's a bad thing, because they're not bad... just different.

- The music sounds at least as good as it did on the PS1 version. All the notes are crystal clear and it doesn't sound compressed or anything. Phew.

- The English voice overs are crap. The Japanese voice overs are thankfully fantastic. The dialog is much better this time around, and it's nice that the game isn't such a joke everytime somebody speaks.

Haven't seen any new items or anything yet, but again, I'm only 10 minutes or so into SOTN. Still, if I had to call it right now... I'd say this is the definitive version of SOTN just because the Jappo voice-overs go a long way, and the frame rate is noticeably better. Considering that SOTN is probably one of my favorite games of all time, if not my absolute favorite, I'm very happy, to say the least.

Oh, and that remakes kewl too... and stuff.

I'll have a real review in a few days most likely.

The Mana Knight
10-27-2007, 10:38 PM
I had a friend come over and we played lots of games. We played PGR4 for a while, Samurai Warriors 2, Forza 2, and a bunch of other 360 games. We also played some PS3 (mostly Puzzle Fighter and Everyday Shooter). Earlier in the morning, I played Ratchet & Clank: ToD, but I honestly don't want to play more of it (or my other games) until I get back to my apartment (I just can't stand playing them on an SDTV).

Well, I'm in one of those moods to get rid of games again, so I'm planning on compiling a list. At max, it will probably be 50 games out of my 250 in my backlog. I really hope Gamestop runs another special when you trade in PS2 or PSP games or something, because those two will see the most games go (since I have 156 PS2 games and 57 PSP games). I'd like to bring my PS3 down to 120 games, but 140 seems more realistic (too tough for me to give up a few games, despite not playing them much, like the first Shadow Hearts, Dark Cloud 2, etc.). Many will probably tell me I shouldn't go to Gamestop, but I'll go ahead and get raped by them because I just want to badly get rid of games and it will be easy just trading stuff into them (gets it off my hands). Not sure what I'll get, since there aren't many games I really want to buy right now (well, I want EoJ and Beautiful Katamari, but I'll just ask for them for Christmas. I'll get DCX at Fry's. I want AC6, ES, FFT PSP, etc. but I will probably barely play them at the moment). I may preorder Disgaea: AoD for PSP with some credit. I already traded in all the 360 games I wanted to, so now I'm working on PS3. I'm mostly happy with what I have, but Armored Core 4 (I originally really liked the demo, but my friend who had it doesn't have it anymore, so I can't play him online and I hit a wall) and Enchanted Arms (I also got rid of it on 360 once, but the price tag was too tempting for me to try again. Folklore makes me no longer care about it) will probably be the two games to go (I'll probably only make $25 from Gamestop for both after the $10 extra, but oh well). Everything else I'll keep (I already reached 17 PS3 games, and I was hoping to have 15 by the end of the year. Also, getting rid of two brings down my multi-platform game count to 5 (DW Gundam, DiRT, VF5, and NFS Carbon will never go, due to already doing well).

I want Uncharted, but I rather wait for some sale. I really want a Wii most of all, but I could never make the money unless I sold a few rare RPGs (like Tales of Destiny II PS1, Shadow Hearts 1, some Suikoden's maybe, etc.). Time Crisis 4 may be too pricey and I'm still unsure whether I'll get DDR Universe 2 with a pad or not.

Btw, my gamerscore finally reached the 3000 level. Not that I really care or anything, but I feel like I'm finally starting to catch up to many awesome gamers here. :D

Blackout
10-27-2007, 10:47 PM
Today I played Resistance online with my friend's PS3 and I had so much fun. That game is awsome. Full 32 people in the game. Even when a game only had like 6 people in it, it was still so much fun. Constant killing and intense action. I can't wait to buy this one. I'm not sure why people just shit all over this game, the online was really good.

I'm also playing Digimon World Dusk for DS. I haven't heard anyone talk about it around these parts but it is one of my favorite DS games. Lots of things to do and the game hasn't gotten boring yet.

Apossum
10-27-2007, 10:58 PM
playing around with my new slim PSP tonight. I like it, though it feels cheap since it's light and made of different plastic. My favorite part about it would have to be the new speaker location. video out is kinda cool. Would be much cooler if there was some kind of a zoom function. Hopefully Sony will add that with an upgrade.

Dracula X chronicles kicks ass but what's with the forced gimp screen for Rondo and SOTN?! At least provide a zoom option you lazy ass devs. I got Wipeout since it was cheap and it's a great game. Killzone is inexplicably still $30 everywhere used (even local stores??) Final Fantasy Tactics is too expensive, but I want it.

That's all! Tired as shit after driving all day and awaiting pizza.

Chacrana
10-27-2007, 11:39 PM
playing around with my new slim PSP tonight. I like it, though it feels cheap since it's light and made of different plastic. My favorite part about it would have to be the new speaker location. video out is kinda cool. Would be much cooler if there was some kind of a zoom function. Hopefully Sony will add that with an upgrade.

Dracula X chronicles kicks ass but what's with the forced gimp screen for Rondo and SOTN?! At least provide a zoom option you lazy ass devs. I got Wipeout since it was cheap and it's a great game. Killzone is inexplicably still $30 everywhere used (even local stores??) Final Fantasy Tactics is too expensive, but I want it.

That's all! Tired as shit after driving all day and awaiting pizza.

Possum, did you try fuckin' with the screen size option? I think one of the settings gives you a 4:3 window that takes up the entire height of the screen.

daroga
10-27-2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah, in the options (on the main screen, not in Rondo or SotN) you can fill the screen vertically and match the ratio horizontally.

Apossum
10-27-2007, 11:44 PM
No, I refuse to believe you can do that and I will not even check. IGA is lazy, they should execute him! Die Anno!


(okay, I'll check that out next time I fire it up :) )

SL4IN
10-27-2007, 11:45 PM
just made it home from the college fb game and fixing to finish up my paper that's due on monday.

afterwards, i'll prolly play some jeanne d'arc or tales of eternia on the psp, or finish up the few songs I have left in career mode on GHIII

Chacrana
10-27-2007, 11:48 PM
just made it home from the college fb game and fixing to finish up my paper that's due on monday.

afterwards, i'll prolly play some jeanne d'arc or tales of eternia on the psp, or finish up the few songs I have left in career mode on GHIII

O dam, somebody else who gots Tales of Eternia for the PSP. Nice. Come to think of it, that never did come out in the US. Ah well, I'm just glad it got a European release. Sigh... poor Suikoden I & 2.

SL4IN
10-27-2007, 11:57 PM
O dam, somebody else who gots Tales of Eternia for the PSP. Nice. Come to think of it, that never did come out in the US. Ah well, I'm just glad it got a European release. Sigh... poor Suikoden I & 2.

well, funny story behind how I got it.

So I was at work yesterday and I was looking at our back room (where we keep our stock of all the PSP, DC, PS1, SNES, NES, N64, GEN, SATURN, and all the other old systems we sell. So I was back there looking through the psp games and I noticed we had eternia right before TotW: radiant mythology and I knew that we didn't sell import games and I didn't know how we got it. So I asked my boss about it and he told me I could have it, greatest day ever!

And yeah, the psp port didn't come stateside, but the original was released in the states as Tales of Destiny II.

Jesus_S_Preston
10-28-2007, 12:03 AM
Think I might run to Gamestop tommorrow in search of GHIII for 360 sans guitar. Despite the guitar's allure, I already have an Xplorer and I'm going to get the Rock Band Bundle, so....I must resist it and its chewy nougat center.

whoknows
10-28-2007, 12:04 AM
No goddamn clue. I put it in and start it up, and I just get a black screen post-PSP Logo.
In guess since you can start the game that rules out the disc being stuck inside the UMD.

Better go exchange it while you have the chance.

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 12:05 AM
well, funny story behind how I got it.

So I was at work yesterday and I was looking at our back room (where we keep our stock of all the PSP, DC, PS1, SNES, NES, N64, GEN, SATURN, and all the other old systems we sell. So I was back there looking through the psp games and I noticed we had eternia right before TotW: radiant mythology and I knew that we didn't sell import games and I didn't know how we got it. So I asked my boss about it and he told me I could have it, greatest day ever!

And yeah, the psp port didn't come stateside, but the original was released in the states as Tales of Destiny II.

PSP version's a bit better than TODII on the PS1 was, IMO, so it's still kinda sad that most people in the US never had a shot at that version.

But again, I don't care about other people. That is a good story about how you got it though... def. lucked out.

gunm
10-28-2007, 12:26 AM
Last night I almost played Jeanne D'arc. Then I fell asleep. :p I will play that game eventually. :p

SL4IN
10-28-2007, 01:18 AM
unlocking the last few songs i have left on GHIII

ighosty
10-28-2007, 01:28 AM
my gaming night consisted of Blue Dragon ( around 16 hours into it), playing a bunch of games on Team Fortress 2 :), a little bit of robotron, and finished it up with some Skate

gunm
10-28-2007, 02:27 AM
Played a little Zelda:PH just now. I got a long ways to go still. Maybe later I'll play some 360 (Portal most likely, while I'm DL'ing GHIII demo).

SL4IN
10-28-2007, 02:40 AM
just my first thoughts on the whole game, the soundtrack is amazing, much improved over GHII (IMHO) but the "boss battles" are so unnescessary.

Vendetta
10-28-2007, 03:21 AM
I played the first 10 minutes or so of Phoenix Wright 3, and I couldn't really get into it; I guess I'm just a little burnt out on its gameplay. I'm sure I'll start feeling it eventually and play it straight through until the end like I did with PW2.

I started my first Association in NBA 2K8, and I actually lost the first game of the season. It was a surprise, since I'd regularly annihilate the CPU in 2K7 on Hall of Fame difficulty. In my defense, the loss was only by one, I'm using the Blazers, it was against the Spurs, and they exploited a really annoying glitch against me. It's the glitch where intentional fouling doesn't work and instead the player just loses the ball after being grabbed; the Spurs pulled that in the last thirty seconds of the game to gain the lead. I thought 2K would've fixed it with the update that was released recently, but I guess they overlooked it. It's a shame too, because it happens every single time and is really game-breaking.

On the Wii/GC end, I got about an hour or two into Tales of Symphonia, which I'm enjoying a lot, I played some Success mode in MLB Power Pros, and I started Luigi's Mansion, which I'm finding pleasantly decent. I'd never played it before, and it didn't exactly get sterling reviews, but I feel as though it'll be well worth the $6 I paid for it.

Finally, I caved in and bought Lumines Live!, since the price has been lowered to 800 points from 1200. The only Lumines I've ever played was the trial version of Live!, and I really didn't like how Q? was handling the microtransactions with it. However, I did download the Holiday pack, which is 400 points (I think it retails for 600), and I'll probably pick up the other packs once they go on sale. I guess I've fallen into their trap.

MarkMan
10-28-2007, 05:50 AM
Plowed through Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles and unlocked everything... Just started Victorious Boxers Revolution tonight...

Being a huge fan of both the manga/anime series of Hajime No Ippo in addition to the previous games(I've got them all!)... I was VERY pleased with the presentation and gameplay included with VB Revolution... Also at $39... It's a DEAL! Fans of the series definately need to check this game out!

I'm hoping to finish VB Revolution by tomorrow so I can finish up on both Rachet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction and Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations...

While out shopping today, I convinced a friend to pick up The Eye of Judgment so we can play together... Cuz honestly, games are more fun when you play with good company(especially competitive games)!

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 11:29 AM
Markman, if you're not a fan of Fighting Spirit, how's Victorious Boxers? I am a huge fan of Fighting Spirit, but I don't want to buy a game based on my addiction to a series rather than because of the gameplay. Also, how's the gameplay with the classic controller? That's the control scheme I'd be using...

SL4IN
10-28-2007, 11:59 AM
i'm in a fighting spirit mood, so I'm playing guilty gear XX reload and tekken dark resurrection on the psp.

gunm
10-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Last night I played more Portal, then a little GHIII demo on 360. Then I watched Robocop on Blu-ray, well most of it, while downloading EyeCreate before going to bed. I sure hope FV ships Eye of Judgement to me this week as I really want to try it out. :p

Apossum
10-28-2007, 03:51 PM
crysis demo = PC getting surprise buttsecks.

maybe the new GTS' will handle it better. not that I'm going to buy it any time soon, but you know, it's the principle :lol:

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 04:32 PM
If Gamespot's report is to be believed though, the demo that they played was running well on an 8800 with everything on "full DX10." Whatever that means.

Hopefully the final game will be an improvement...

daroga
10-28-2007, 04:35 PM
Got the real ending on the Rondo remake. Great, great game. The final fight is fantastic.

whoknows
10-28-2007, 04:36 PM
Got the real ending on the Rondo remake. Great, great game. The final fight is fantastic.
You people need to quit talking about that game otherwise I'm going to be tempted to go out and buy it :-P

MarkMan
10-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Markman, if you're not a fan of Fighting Spirit, how's Victorious Boxers? I am a huge fan of Fighting Spirit, but I don't want to buy a game based on my addiction to a series rather than because of the gameplay. Also, how's the gameplay with the classic controller? That's the control scheme I'd be using...

As a stand alone game, unfortunately I don't think it holds up to Victorious Boxers 2(PS2) aka Hajime No Ippo All Stars in Japan....

Main reasons being, not as many playable characters, and it's pretty barebones compared to the past titles.

But gameplay wise, I think it's really good. They've made some changes that are in the favor of balance/gameplay. Now in order for you to do your crazy super/special moves you have to have your super/special meter at full. The indicator for this is the character avatar, and the flames behind him. When they're at the top, then you can unleash something deadly... Such as the dempsey roll or jolt counter... You have to be careful with your shots too, if you whiff a super/special attack it drains your meter.

Another unfortunate gameplay design flaw, or rather, a personal gripe of mine... Is that you can't change the gameplay view. I loved the old view in previous games so it took a while(very short while) to get used to the psuedo first person perspective(closest to Super Punch-Out!!!'s view scheme but in pure 3D).

But in the end. Solid title. Fan or no fan.

If I were to rate the game on merit, using the traditional 1-10 scale. I'd give it a solid 7/10.

If I were to rate the game for fans, 9/10.

Jesus_S_Preston
10-28-2007, 05:43 PM
GHIII today.

Logg
10-28-2007, 05:58 PM
I started Kameo beat the first level, seems like a pretty good game, will play later.

jer7583
10-28-2007, 07:30 PM
Kameo was a good game. Not great, but it didn't do anything terribly wrong aside from typical rare awful character design and such. There's some really nice epic set pieces in the game, though.

Still slagging though Phoenix Wright 2's last case. I keep falling asleep though after making it home at 3:30 from a halloween party last night. Whee!

whoknows
10-28-2007, 07:36 PM
Still slagging though Phoenix Wright 2's last case. I keep falling asleep though after making it home at 3:30 from a halloween party last night. Whee!
I never beat the last case because it was so long and I got bored of it :lol:

Someday when I care enough I'll read about the ending.

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 07:38 PM
I never beat the last case because it was so long and I got bored of it :lol:

Someday when I care enough I'll read about the ending.

Manyg, I don't know how you got bored during that last case. I fuggin' loved every minute of that ish.

Played through that entire game in two days.

whoknows
10-28-2007, 07:40 PM
Manyg, I don't know how you got bored during that last case. I fuggin' loved every minute of that ish.

Played through that entire game in two days.
Well I had finished Phoenix Wright 1 before that, and the games have like...no difference in gameplay that I got bored of it. Too repetitive.


It's been awhile though, maybe I'll go back to it.

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 07:41 PM
Well I had finished Phoenix Wright 1 before that, and the games have like...no difference in gameplay that I got bored of it. Too repetitive.


It's been awhile though, maybe I'll go back to it.

Oh, alright then. Yeah, if you play too much Phoenix Wright in a short span, you can get Phoenixed out. I played the original back when it first came out, so I didn't have that issue.

I am a true lawyer.

whoknows
10-28-2007, 07:44 PM
I wonder how long the Phoenix Wright games will go until the gameplay is changed up...even if just a little to make it more interesting.

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 08:00 PM
I think 3 games like this is fine, but I would like to see something new in the new Ace Attorney game... whoever that new guy is.

Of course, we still need to have copious Objections.

Trakan
10-28-2007, 08:02 PM
Megaman X. Beat it for like the 10th time today.

The game just never stops being fun.

jer7583
10-28-2007, 08:12 PM
yeah I'm interested, just can't stay awake. Fantastic.

Chacrana
10-28-2007, 08:29 PM
Megaman X. Beat it for like the 10th time today.

The game just never stops being fun.

This is correct. MMX is a fucking awesome game. I kinda want to play Maverick Hunter X again at some point... either that or finish up X5 and X6 (I loved X5 but X6... not so much)