For those that didn't like the Zelda reviews here's a Ratchet review [Mobile/Archive]

jkam

10-24-2007, 03:45 PM

Chacrana

10-24-2007, 04:11 PM

Honestly, I think Gamespot's been sliding for a while in terms of quality. The nail in the coffin was Greg Kasavin's departure. I'm not saying it because I think that Ratchet's score is a travesty or anything, but the quality of the stuff that gets put up on that site is very questionable.

Out of curiosity, what resources do you still use? Gamespot seemed to be the last viable option for most people...

whoknows

10-24-2007, 04:14 PM

I use GameInformer and IGN over Gamespot.

Best though is Gametrailers, when they do a video review there usually isn't a better source for a review. When they say something is wrong with a game they show you, and when they complain about something it's usually a valid point.

I actually disliked Greg Kasavin a lot so good news to me that he left :lol:

In any case, that 7.5 is stupid and reminds me why I dislike GS.

linkpwns

10-24-2007, 04:16 PM

nyprimus4

10-24-2007, 04:16 PM

Gametrailers video review > everything

msdmoney

10-24-2007, 04:16 PM

7.5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetclank/review.html?sid=6181557

I really think Gamespot just wants to give everything the lowest score possible to be cool at this point. All of their reviews point to how burnt out on the industry they are. They should all get different jobs.

I haven't played R&C but when you are getting 9 to 9.5's and Gamespot gives you a 7.5 something is wrong.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932369.asp?q=ratchet

I don't always use reviews as my basis for a game but I'm done with gamespot for reviews.

Do you take issue with the content of the review, or just the score being different than other sites. A lot of Websites use a different standard for review scores, even if they have the same scale. A lot of places have a 0-10 scale but only really use 5-10, whereas some sites actually use the full scale. It might accound for the disparity in scores.

Also, I don't think scores need to be similar across all websites, you're always going to have differing opinions on games. Just because other sites scored the game a 9 and gamespot scored it a 7.5 doesn't mean something is automatically wrong. You can't really judge if you haven't played the game yet. I would score a lot of games much lower than the average review scores indicate.

jkam

10-24-2007, 04:29 PM

Out of curiosity, what resources do you still use? Gamespot seemed to be the last viable option for most people...

Gamerankings or metacritic...better for the overall view.

jer7583

10-24-2007, 04:33 PM

Yeah gametrailers really is the way to go. They do such high quality video reviews, there's no reason to go anywhere else. Being able to see what the reviewer is talking about along with the review is quality.

I appreciate Gamespot's attempt to reclaim "average" in game ratings, but they're just so damn inconsistent. I really do think they rate hyped games low just for attention. When stuff like Wario Ware on Wii gets a 9 and Ratchet and Clank gets a 7.5 for story and difficulty issues, you have to wonder where the standards are, what do these numbers even mean?

I say throw out review scores and give me a nice, clean concise written review with a reccomend/try/avoid. That's all there needs to be.

tangytangerine

10-24-2007, 04:36 PM

Some of the stories Gamespot has posted really aren't worth mentioning too.

I mean, how is this news?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181642.html

Seems ever since they adding sites like Gamefaqs to the network, the site has gone downhill.

1up & IGN are the reviews I go for. I don't even trust Game Informer, since that mag is basically a catalog for Gamestop.

jkam

10-24-2007, 04:54 PM

Do you take issue with the content of the review, or just the score being different than other sites. A lot of Websites use a different standard for review scores, even if they have the same scale. A lot of places have a 0-10 scale but only really use 5-10, whereas some sites actually use the full scale. It might accound for the disparity in scores.

Also, I don't think scores need to be similar across all websites, you're always going to have differing opinions on games. Just because other sites scored the game a 9 and gamespot scored it a 7.5 doesn't mean something is automatically wrong. You can't really judge if you haven't played the game yet. I would score a lot of games much lower than the average review scores indicate.

The content with lines like this:

"Ratchet & Clank's audio is solid but mostly unremarkable."

Well which is it? Solid or unremarkable? It sounds like a kid ranting more than a review.

help1

10-24-2007, 05:04 PM

OH no! A game with a big following got a bad review! Someone man the cannons! We need as many "Fuck Gamespot" messages as possible!

Reviews are worthless people. If a game gets a 7.5 and I think that the game is amazing, what does that mean? That I have an opinion.

daroga

10-24-2007, 05:12 PM

1UP's and Gamespot's reviews are pretty worthless I think. I tend to add a full point or more to their number score to get some realisitic idea of how the game is. They both just seem to undercut review scores to generate traffic or have reviews whose text doesn't match their score.

Gametrailers is solid.

Chris in Cali

10-24-2007, 05:12 PM

I agreed with the Zelda review. Actually, I would have gave it an even lower score, and I'll probably agree with this one too. I'm sick of every game getting a 9 because of the name. I think Gamespot is the only site that doesn't over-rate shit.

Ugamer_X

10-24-2007, 05:25 PM

I appreciate Gamespot's attempt to reclaim "average" in game ratings, but they're just so damn inconsistent. I really do think they rate hyped games low just for attention. When stuff like Wario Ware on Wii gets a 9 and Ratchet and Clank gets a 7.5 for story and difficulty issues, you have to wonder where the standards are, what do these numbers even mean?

Exactly.

I have no problem with them trying to be more critical when it comes to scoring. But am I supposed to believe that R&C is only half a point better than Spiderman: Friend or Foe or Crash of the Titans?

VidgamesgivemeA_D_D

10-24-2007, 05:31 PM

This is nothing new Gamespot has always done this. They act like between and 7 and 8 is OMG AWESOME, 9 is perfection and 10 doesn't exist.

Rozz

10-24-2007, 05:32 PM

The content with lines like this:

"Ratchet & Clank's audio is solid but mostly unremarkable."

Well which is it? Solid or unremarkable? It sounds like a kid ranting more than a review.

It's both, it's acceptable but nothing special.

willardhaven

10-24-2007, 05:38 PM

I would have given Zelda a 7.5 also.

But even if Ratchet and Clank Future was the same as UYA with better graphics and less glitches I'd give it a 10.

benjamouth

10-24-2007, 05:48 PM

If I'm going to listen to reviews I'd rather get the overall picture from a site like Metacritic, but I particularly look at the Edge and gamesTM reviews.

jkam

10-24-2007, 05:49 PM

It's both, it's acceptable but nothing special.

Why put it in there? It's acceptable but nothing special? I'd rather hear the sound is nothing special period. Make a decisive decision one way or the other...that is what a review should be.

rodeojones903

10-24-2007, 05:50 PM

I have no problem with them trying to be more critical when it comes to scoring. But am I supposed to believe that R&C is only half a point better than Spiderman: Friend or Foe or Crash of the Titans?

QFT

Killer Rabbit

10-24-2007, 05:59 PM

I never really was a big fan of Gamespot. I usually go to IGN or 1up, but I've just started watching Gametrailers stuff now, that so much of Screwattack's videos are exclusive to Gametrailers. Their reviews look pretty good.

The Mana Knight

10-24-2007, 06:10 PM

jkam, why bother starting this thread? You don't own a PS3 so why do you give a fuck?? Stop bringing this shit here.

Anyway, Gamespot fucking sucks because they love sleeping with MS overrating certain 360 games (like giving that Perfect Dark Zero dog shit a 9.0) while raping Wii and PS3 games. 1UP is a shithole too, but I've ignored the site every since it went up.

Aaron Thomas is mentally ill. He's a shitty reviewer and deserves to be beaten severely. Let's look at that fucktards review history and profile:
http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/contributions?mode=reviews
http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/

All he does is review shitty EA sports games and other sports games, and that's where he belongs. He hasn't even given any game above an 8.8 (His 8.8 was the WORST CoD game every by far on 360). And when looking at his profile, it screams Box Bitch all over the place. I guess he gets plenty of blow jobs from MS right now.

Btw, Ratchet & Clank: Future already averages above a 90% on Game Rankings, so that already shows Gamespot is a fucking joke site. I also played the game (opened my copy today), and it owns every next generation game by the most ridiculous margin and definitely GotY.

daroga

10-24-2007, 06:14 PM

jkam, why bother starting this thread?Mana, he's freaking defending the game. In fact, no one here has said anything remotely positive about the lower score. Calm down. :)

Rozz

10-24-2007, 06:17 PM

Anyway, Gamespot fucking sucks because they love sleeping with MS overrating certain 360 games (like giving that Perfect Dark Zero dog shit a 9.0) while raping Wii and PS3 games. 1UP is a shithole too, but I've ignored the site every since it went up.

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Actually, you're wrong and making up shit again. In that link that YOU actually posted it shows that they rated the PS3 version of Tiger Woods 08 higher than the 360 version, so that proves what you said wrong... based upon the information you provided yourself.

Monsta Mack

10-24-2007, 06:18 PM

uh... actually he gave Heavenly Sword a 8.0 which everyone makes it sound like a solid rental. Lumnies II a 8.4 when everyone said the first was so much better.

I'm not seeing his 360 bias unless you count giving Virtua Tennis a .2 higher because of online features, and multi platform titles that run smoother higher scores biased. Other people seem biased on GS when it comes to 360 reviews but this guy isn't.

And R&C could be a great game and GOTY in your opinion but Bioshock and Orange Box will most likely be neck and neck this year for GOTY, if you want to go by gamerankings.

Zoglog

10-24-2007, 06:23 PM

They were too lenient for Zelda TP, should've given it a 7.5. After beating 2 Dungeons I was bored as all hell.

Either way Reviews are subjective. Stop whining. Quit trying to force people to agree with you. If you don't like the review scores, don't read the site.....

daroga

10-24-2007, 06:26 PM

Either way Reviews are subjective. Stop whining. Quit trying to force people to agree with you. If you don't like the review scores, don't read the site.....This could be the first time I've agreed with something you've said, Zoggy. Good show.

mykevermin

10-24-2007, 06:34 PM

Aaron Thomas is mentally ill.

Hmm.

He's a shitty reviewer and deserves to be beaten severely. Let's look at that fucktards review history and profile:
http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/contributions?mode=reviews
http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/

All he does is review shitty EA sports games and other sports games, and that's where he belongs. He hasn't even given any game above an 8.8 (His 8.8 was the WORST CoD game every by far on 360). And when looking at his profile, it screams Box Bitch all over the place. I guess he gets plenty of blow jobs from MS right now.

Btw, Ratchet & Clank: Future already averages above a 90% on Game Rankings, so that already shows Gamespot is a fucking joke site. I also played the game (opened my copy today), and it owns every next generation game by the most ridiculous margin and definitely GotY.

Well...
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/oa048.jpg

As for the review, there are many good points made about its arbitrariness already.

FriskyTanuki

10-24-2007, 06:41 PM

Who cares? This is already in the official thread, so this is just a flamebait topic to get people like TMK riled up.

SL4IN

10-24-2007, 06:42 PM

as always, GS again gives a critically acclaimed game a lower than normal review score to score traffic to their site.

it's really sad actually.

greattastic

10-24-2007, 06:48 PM

Why put it in there? It's acceptable but nothing special? I'd rather hear the sound is nothing special period. Make a decisive decision one way or the other...that is what a review should be.

It is decisive.

In other words:

The sound is decent, but it's nothing to write home about.

They don't do anything particularly new with it, if you've played another Rachet and Clank game, you know how this will sound.

That is what the review is saying.