Light gun discussion thread - Game Deals Inside!

[punqsux]

so i still have this recent obsession with light gun games and decided to make a list of ps1 games that use guns (since ive aquired all 8 NA games for the ps2) so if you know of any ps1 light gun games that i dont have on the list, post it!!!

PS1 Games
Time Crisis
Time Crisis: Project Titan
Point Blank
Point Blank 2
Point Blank 3
Maximum Force
Area 51
Crypt Killer
Gunfighter: Jesse James
Leathel Enforcers 1+2
Project: Horned Owl
Elemental Gearbolt
Die Hard Trilogy
Die Hard Trilogy 2
Judge Dredd

PS2 Games
Time Crisis 2
Time Crisis 3
Time Crisis: Crisis Zone (Oct.)
Ninja Assault
Vampire Night
Dino Stalker
Resident Evil: Dead Aim
EndGame
Starsky and Hutch (in 2 player mode)

Imports:
Gunvari Collection (point blank 1-3+time crisis 1)
Gunfighter 2
Virtua Cop Elite
Police 24/7
RE Survivor 2: Code Veronica

Cheap ass light gun deals:

endgame for $6.80 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222502.asp

Starsky and Hutch for $7.65 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/236077.asp

dino stalker for $8.50 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222548.asp

!! IMPORT !!
Gun Survivor 2 for $18 shipped
http://image1.play-asia.com/170/PA.12237.003.jpg
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-r-70-9fx.html
(deal posted by MeGaWC27)

Ninja assault for $12.75 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/231873.asp

Not so cheap ass light gun games:

time crisis 2 (no gun) for $17 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209318.asp

RE: Dead Aim for $20.75 shipped use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235150.asp

Time Crisis 3 (no gun) for $25.50 shipped use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/239016.asp

Vampire Night (no gun?) for $25.50 shipped use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209322.asp

if you order more than one game, and the total before coupons is over $20.00 use the AFF25 code as it will save you more money even tho you still pay the $2 shipping.[/u]

PS1 Games
Use PPLAY15 and SAVER for all of these unless ordering over $20 as stated above.

Gunfighter: The legend of Jesse James for $6.80 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/206244.asp

Elemental Gearbolt for $17 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/148688.asp

Maximum Force for $4.24 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/138676.asp

Area 51 for $8.50 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/127483.asp

Crypt Killer for $5.10 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/129588.asp

Die Hard Trilogy for $1.70 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/143156.asp

Die Hard Trilogy 2 for $3.40 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/171811.asp

Judge Dredd for $2.55 shipped
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/122825.asp

[mousin]

point blank isnt an import, and yes it uses guncon.

[punqsux]

ok let me ask again

i know what point blank is, 1-3 were all released here for ps1. im looking for information on a compilation of all 3 for the ps2 in japan.

[CaseyRyback]

this is the link, linkinprime provided

http://www.toysnjoys.com/gungames.html

[jputahraptor]

I don't know if you care about ps1 games but what the hell

Time Crisis Project Titan
Area 51
Maximum Force
Die Hard 1 and 2, well parts of them.

[MeGaWC27]

wow, Point Blank 1,2,3 and Time Crisis...
too bad I can't play Jap games :(

[punqsux]

ps1 games will not work with a guncon 2...which is the only gun i have right now =o\

thanks for the link casey!

[mousin]

youll see me all over that black guncon when im in hong kong. :D

[punqsux]

:shock: i must own it
http://www.toysnjoys.com/psx2/guncollection.jpg

[punqsux]

mousin any chance you could pick that up for me? ^^

[CaseyRyback]

also RE:Gun Survivor 2 (JP only)

[punqsux]

i was under the impression that:

resurvivor = gun survivor 1
re:dead aim = gun survivor 2
Dino Stalker = gun survivor 3

am i wrong?

[punqsux]

wow i looked it up and im SO wrong! gun survivor 2 sounds sweet!

[Nirvanaguy777]

how do those guncon things hook up, do you just plug it in, instead of a ps2 controller and they work, do they work with any tv, does it matter if you use a rf switch

[CaseyRyback]

i was under the impression that:

resurvivor = gun survivor 1
re:dead aim = gun survivor 2
Dino Stalker = gun survivor 3

am i wrong?

I do not think RE:DA is part of the gun survivor series. The second one was never released here.

Gamefaqs refers to it as RE: Gun Survivor 2: Code Veronica

[jputahraptor]

Hang on were going on a rollercoaster ride.

Gun Survivor 1 is the ps title, Resident Evil Survivor

Gun Survivor 2 is in the arcade and is also on the ps2 though i've never seen it and is a dream which basically reflects parts of RE: CV

Gun Survivor 3 is Dino Stalker which is in the Dino Crisis series

Gun Survivor 4 is RE: Dead Aim

[punqsux]

how do those guncon things hook up, do you just plug it in, instead of a ps2 controller and they work, do they work with any tv, does it matter if you use a rf switchit plugs in to the video input of the ps2 av connection and the usb port. i dont think u can use it with a rf switch

[Nirvanaguy777]

how do those guncon things hook up, do you just plug it in, instead of a ps2 controller and they work, do they work with any tv, does it matter if you use a rf switchit plugs in to the video pare of the ps2 av connection and the usb port. i dont think u can use it with a rf switch

excuse me if I stratch my head, im assuming those parts of the ps2 are in the back

[Duo_Maxwell]

Gun games availble in UK and Japan (that I didn't see listed):

Gunfighter 2
Virtua Cop Elite
Police 24/7
Time Crisis: Crisis Zone
RE Survivor 2: Code Veronica

Edit: Sorry didn't read enough, RE Gun Survivor 2 was mentioned.

[punqsux]

how do those guncon things hook up, do you just plug it in, instead of a ps2 controller and they work, do they work with any tv, does it matter if you use a rf switchit plugs in to the video pare of the ps2 av connection and the usb port. i dont think u can use it with a rf switch

excuse me if I stratch my head, im assuming those parts of the ps2 are in the back

no the usb port is in the front left of a ps2 and the video output is on the tv/vcr the ps2 is hooked up tp

[punqsux]

i edited the top post, thanks for the list of imports. does anyone know about the silent scope games?

[Duo_Maxwell]

I pretty sure they (the Silent Scope games) don't work with the light guns. If they do i never heard anything about it.

[Theenternal]

I was interested in finding out too, glad you posted a request Punq. My girlfriend is leaving for Japan on wednesday i think ill have her pick me up a black guncon if she can find it :). She will be there for a little while, and I am going over there later. So maybe i will pick some extra ones up for trade fodder :)

[punqsux]

whats a good way to play imports on a us system? im not gunna do flip tops or slide cards because i dont want to mod the outside of my console.

is there any way other than a mod chip?

gun survivor 2 goes on ebay for pretty cheap

[punqsux]

bump! i decided to make a ps1 list as well...does anyone know if revolution x or die hard trilogy 2 support light guns?

[punqsux]

ok apparently dht2 supports light guns and revolution x was released before any guns were developed...therefore...no support Xop

[guessed]

This may be a dumb question, but do the PS1 games work with the Guncon2?

[punqsux]

no, there are guns that will work with diffrent kinds of games, but heres how it breaks up:

light gun games - a light gun that plugs into a controller port. all non namco ps1 games are light gun games i believe

guncon games - namco ps1 games, timecrisis and point blank (oddly enough, the ps2 game endgame will work with a guncon 1

guncon 2 games - all ps2 gun games.

like i said, they make guns that do all 3 of these.

[Mr. Anderson]

I could swear that Judge Dread for the PS1 is a light gun game.

[punqsux]

I could swear that Judge Dread for the PS1 is a light gun game.

looked it up, you are correct!

[Scrubking]

I WANT HOUSE OF THE DEAD FOR PS2 NOW!!!!!!!!

DAMNIT

[punqsux]

I WANT HOUSE OF THE DEAD FOR PS2 NOW!!!!!!!!

DAMNIT

screw 2
ps2 needs house of the dead collection!

why the hell would sega release 3 on xbox?? they have no gun support!
and hotd 1 is hard to find AND guns for it are expensive.

[BigHow]

I wonder how a HotD collection and that Namco collection would sell on the PS2?

The sales on the Namco collection couldn't have been that stellar in Japan if they never brought it over, right?

[Scrubking]

I WANT HOUSE OF THE DEAD FOR PS2 NOW!!!!!!!!

DAMNIT

screw 2
ps2 needs house of the dead collection!

why the hell would sega release 3 on xbox?? they have no gun support!
and hotd 1 is hard to find AND guns for it are expensive.

I'd pay full price for a House of the Dead collection on PS2.

[punqsux]

I wonder how a HotD collection and that Namco collection would sell on the PS2?

The sales on the Namco collection couldn't have been that stellar in Japan if they never brought it over, right?

i dont know if thats a fair assesment, because i have no clue how popular gun games are in japan. but pointblank 1,2,and 3 sold pretty poorly here, so sadly, the collection prolly wouldnt do much better

[peteloaf]

i dont know if thats a fair assesment, because i have no clue how popular gun games are in japan. but pointblank 1,2,and 3 sold pretty poorly here, so sadly, the collection prolly wouldnt do much better

Speaking of which is anybody looking for point blank 2 with a guncon or 3?
'Cause I gots 'em

Sorry didn't mean to hijack this thread, but I figure some one may be looking for them.

[BigHow]

I wonder how a HotD collection and that Namco collection would sell on the PS2?

The sales on the Namco collection couldn't have been that stellar in Japan if they never brought it over, right?

i dont know if thats a fair assesment, because i have no clue how popular gun games are in japan. but pointblank 1,2,and 3 sold pretty poorly here, so sadly, the collection prolly wouldnt do much better

True, true. But maybe if they sold it as a standalone $20 or $30 budget title? I think there'd would be an audience that would pay that much for the package, but would be highly hesitant to spend $60 on that and a Guncon.

Maybe if TC2, TC3 and Crisis Zone sales get high enough we'll see an announcement.

[punqsux]

gunvari for $30 would be amazing!

pete i sent u a PM

[The Successful Dropout]

add revolution x to the ps1 list

[punqsux]

add revolution x to the ps1 list

have you played this game with a gun on ps1?
because nowhere have i read of gun support

[The Successful Dropout]

go to www.playstation.com
choose north america
then click "games" at the top-left corner
then go to browse games by peripheral features
then click "lightgun"
then click "revolution x"

or

just go here
http://www.us.playstation.com/games.aspx?id=SLUS-00012

[The Successful Dropout]

with no reply and no addition to the op, im assuming that you didn't see my update on revolution x....sooooo....bump

[punqsux]

intresting. ill add it

[redgopher]

Question: is the Guncon 2 compatible with original Guncon games?

[punqsux]

no

[redgopher]

Fucksticks! Now I have to get a Guncon 1... any good deals?

[punqsux]

http://www.estarland.com/product16893.html
works with all 3 types of light gun games, 22 shipped

[punqsux]

Fucksticks! Now I have to get a Guncon 1... any good deals?

woah you got by the filter! theres no shaq-fu sticks!!

[punqsux]

wow some of those ps1 games are dirt cheap at eb! i suggest anyone that wants them gets them now before ps1 games are phased out of their online site (it has to happen eventully, right?) but dam, check out this order!

1 Revolution X - Pre-Played $2.99
1 Judge Dredd - Pre-Played $2.99
1 Area 51 - Pre-Played $9.99
1 Crypt Killer - Pre-Played $5.99
1 Maximum Force - Pre-Played $4.99
1 Die Hard Trilogy - Pre-Played $1.99
1 Die Hard Trilogy 2 - Pre-Played $3.99

after aff25, shipping and tax it came out to 28 bucks shipped for 7 lightgun games. pretty good deal i think! they also have elemental gearbolt, but its $20 before coupons, and i just dont have the $ for that right now...but anyways im off to work =op

[CouRageouS]

hey punqsux, I'm curious as to how many gun controllers you have. do you have that one you provided a link for? I may have to pick one up to play those PSone titles and I'd like to know if its definately a good one. Oh and any insight on a lightgun with a pedal? Or on the PS2 TCs, can you do the same thing as in the PSone and just step on the controller in the second port?

[punqsux]

hey punqsux, I'm curious as to how many gun controllers you have. do you have that one you provided a link for? I may have to pick one up to play those PSone titles and I'd like to know if its definately a good one. Oh and any insight on a lightgun with a pedal? Or on the PS2 TCs, can you do the same thing as in the PSone and just step on the controller in the second port?

right now all i have is a guncon 2, lol (i know i cant even play the games i bought today =op )

but as soon as i get some money im gunna pick up 2 of those guns from the link provided, because they sound sweet, so the better be good =op

ive seen guns with pedals but i never used them, i dont like alot of wires everywhere.

for the ps2 time crisis games, there is a d-pad on the back of the gun and you hold up on it to look out and shoot, it works REALLY well.

[BustaUppa]

Do those PS1 games generally have 2-player support?

And just to make sure I understood right -- does that gun from the E-star link work on ALL gun games for PS1 and PS2?

[punqsux]

Do those PS1 games generally have 2-player support?

And just to make sure I understood right -- does that gun from the E-star link work on ALL gun games for PS1 and PS2?most ps1 gun games ive played (area 51, max force) have 2 player modes i beleieve(its been years) im sure you could look up each individual game if needed lol

the gun from that link CLAIMS to work on all of the diffrent types of games, however never having used it i cant promise anything.

[MeGaWC27]

for the ps2 time crisis games, there is a d-pad on the back of the gun and you hold up on it to look out and shoot, it works REALLY well.

for TimeCrisis3, you hold on to any button on the guncon (a, b, c, d-pad) to look out. Not sure about TC2 since I've never played it (don't have it also :P )

[BustaUppa]

Cool.... lol, I'll probably buy all those games you mentioned and then pick up a gun later. Those deals look too sweet to pass up! I'd rather get 'em while I still can, and just do some gun research later.

Meanwhile I have my Dreamcast guns and the system's amazing selection of 4 gun games to tide me over.

[BustaUppa]

Hey, EBgames has 2 different links for Die Hard Trilogy... is the $3.99 one DHT 2 and they just screwed up the picture/description?

[MeGaWC27]

maybe one is GH and the other isn't...

[punqsux]

the $2 one is GH the $4 one isnt

[daikaiju]

If you've not played Elemental Gearbolt , it's easily the BEST lightgun game for the PS1 - not to mention insanely difficult towards the end.

Also, out of curiosity - I know my original Guncon works on my PS2 Vampire Night and Time Crisis 3, but I've heard it won't work with some of the ps2 titles - anyone know about Ninja Assault?

[BustaUppa]

Thanks... guess part 2 is OOS then

[BustaUppa]

Ok, what do you guys make of this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21188&item=8122480 227&rd=1
This auction is for a "PS2 Cyber Gun." It makes a point to emphasize that it works on ALL PlayStation 1 and 2 gun games. Read further and you see that the gun has "Normal," "Guncon," and "Guncon 2" modes. And you'll notice that the pic shows a video jack, a USB cable, and a nomal PS controller cable. I'm guessing the only reason it would have all three of those is that it really does support all three types of gun games. Whaddaya think? It comes to $21 shipped which seems pretty cool (plus I wasn't crazy about that bright pink one at Estarland :P ).

[MeGaWC27]

well I prefer getting the official ones (unless I know for sure that they'll work...) and the fact that I hate ebay.
Can't really see the d-pad and the pic doesn't show the different outlets actually being connected with the guncon, so be careful about that and hope you get the gun you wanted.

[CouRageouS]

Anyone have Endgame? Read some pretty horrible reviews but the price may make it worth while.

[Alpha2]

end game wouldnt be such a horrible gun game if it didnt litterally load for 30 seconds between each SECTION of an area.

example:

You;re shooting guys in your apartment and dive out the window or something to the street...Loading... you fight guys in the street then run to the train station .... Loading.... you fight through the train station to the train..... Loading.... WTF did they never hear of streaming data??

It's a shame since the graphics arnt half bad and they have the bonus cartoony shooter game (whichhas the same crappy loading issues) but if you can stand it go ahead and buy it just dont pay more than 10 bucks for it.

[CouRageouS]

Hmm..probably will get it just for sake of having the PS2 Guncon games. Only $7.99 then after PPLAY15 and SAVER a few cents over $7. I already ordered Dino Stalker at 9.99.

I don't even have a GunCon2 yet, after I got in on the RE: Dead Aim for $5 it got me looking into the GunCon craze. I'm planning to order one of those preplayed TC3s from EB after I get paid tomorrow. Ninja Assault and TC2 for just the game only are pretty cheap as well. Sucks that Vampire Night is $29.99. What should I do to get a second Guncon2..get a preplayed TC2 or wait for CrisisZone?

[punqsux]

end game wouldnt be such a horrible gun game if it didnt litterally load for 30 seconds between each SECTION of an area.

example:

You;re shooting guys in your apartment and dive out the window or something to the street...Loading... you fight guys in the street then run to the train station .... Loading.... you fight through the train station to the train..... Loading.... WTF did they never hear of streaming data??

It's a shame since the graphics arnt half bad and they have the bonus cartoony shooter game (whichhas the same crappy loading issues) but if you can stand it go ahead and buy it just dont pay more than 10 bucks for it.

thats not a fair description. yes there is a bit of load times, but id say they're closer to 10 seconds.

and the setup is more

gameplay section
VERY short cinema
loading
repeat

its a decent game, i dig it, its just a time crisis ripoff but if youre gunna rip off a game, at least rip off the best ^^

[Scrubking]

Anyone have Endgame? Read some pretty horrible reviews but the price may make it worth while.

For some reason light gun game reviews (only ones I have read have been for the ps2), are usually horrible especially from the "big" review sites. I remember passing up ninja assault a bunch of times because pretty much every review said it sucked, but that game is great. Apparently a lot of people don't know what an arcade gun game is supposed to be like and thus rate it badly.

[roguejedi5]

You're right Scrubking, Ninja Assualt is a pretty decent game. I played it in the arcades and on the PS2. What the reviewers don't like about it is that they think ninja with guns is just too farfetched to believe.

[punqsux]

ive been considering starting a light gun gamer's website recently...but im not sure how that would go since its a very small niche in gaming

[Scrubking]

ive been considering starting a light gun gamer's website recently...but im not sure how that would go since its a very small niche in gaming

I say go for it - never know until you try. Just look at this site: it started small and now it is the number one search result on google.

I, for one, would be happy to be a part of your site.

[MeGaWC27]

I say go for it - never know until you try. Just look at this site: it started small and now it is the number one search result on google.

I, for one, would be happy to be a part of your site.

ditto

[punqsux]

hmm...ill look into it, thanks for the encouragement guys!

[Duo_Maxwell]

I'd think it be pretty boss myself...I'd def. have some interest.

[BigHow]

Hmm..probably will get it just for sake of having the PS2 Guncon games. Only $7.99 then after PPLAY15 and SAVER a few cents over $7. I already ordered Dino Stalker at 9.99.

I don't even have a GunCon2 yet, after I got in on the RE: Dead Aim for $5 it got me looking into the GunCon craze. I'm planning to order one of those preplayed TC3s from EB after I get paid tomorrow. Ninja Assault and TC2 for just the game only are pretty cheap as well. Sucks that Vampire Night is $29.99. What should I do to get a second Guncon2..get a preplayed TC2 or wait for CrisisZone?

I'd vote Crisis Zone. And when EB starts selling them used, use AFF25 and snag a "used" copy cheap. When I did that with TC3, the stuff was basically new. I'm guessing that not a lot of people sell back a full GunCon set to EB, and it's better for them to just eat the $5 (AFF25 not withstanding) by selling it "used".

[BigHow]

Punq - sign me up for your Guncon website. Perhaps we can start the petition to bring over the Gunvari collection.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Meh Gunvari would be nice, but i already have PB 1 & 2. What I want is North American versions of most of the PAL light gun games. I may be worng for asking, but is there a way to play PAL games without modding a PS2?

[suko_32]

I have Point Blanks 2 and I used a Guncon 1 to play vampire nights and it works perfectly

[Alpha2]

end game wouldnt be such a horrible gun game if it didnt litterally load for 30 seconds between each SECTION of an area.

example:

You;re shooting guys in your apartment and dive out the window or something to the street...Loading... you fight guys in the street then run to the train station .... Loading.... you fight through the train station to the train..... Loading.... WTF did they never hear of streaming data??

It's a shame since the graphics arnt half bad and they have the bonus cartoony shooter game (whichhas the same crappy loading issues) but if you can stand it go ahead and buy it just dont pay more than 10 bucks for it.

thats not a fair description. yes there is a bit of load times, but id say they're closer to 10 seconds.

and the setup is more

gameplay section
VERY short cinema
loading
repeat

its a decent game, i dig it, its just a time crisis ripoff but if youre gunna rip off a game, at least rip off the best ^^

You're right 30 seconds is a bit of an over estimation. I suppose if the cinemas were a little longer I could stand the constant loading, but the way it's set up the constant loading breaks the flow and just takes you out of the game. But as I said thats my only real problem with it, out side of that I'd say it was an okay title to own if you;re really into the gun game genre.

[CouRageouS]

Punq I say go for a Light Gun website. Its about time someone start a place for the fanbase to gather and grow. Going indepth about arcade/console history..i.e. from Duck Hunt to Silent Scope. Theres so many DDR, Beatmania, and etc music game fan sites, time for some light gun love.

[MeGaWC27]

You're right 30 seconds is a bit of an over estimation. I suppose if the cinemas were a little longer I could stand the constant loading, but the way it's set up the constant loading breaks the flow and just takes you out of the game. But as I said thats my only real problem with it, out side of that I'd say it was an okay title to own if you;re really into the gun game genre.

Try to look at the bright side, at least you get to rest your arm a lot so you don't get tired of holding the gun for so long :D

[CouRageouS]

I'd vote Crisis Zone. And when EB starts selling them used, use AFF25 and snag a "used" copy cheap. When I did that with TC3, the stuff was basically new. I'm guessing that not a lot of people sell back a full GunCon set to EB, and it's better for them to just eat the $5 (AFF25 not withstanding) by selling it "used".
Yea I'm going to order a used TC3 after I get deposit my check tomorrow. Luckily theres quite a few left last time I checked. Question though..I can just use a different email and open another account under the same name correct? Cause my account I have now used up all the AFF25s it can back when they still had free shipping.

[MeGaWC27]

Yea I'm going to order a used TC3 after I get deposit my check tomorrow. Luckily theres quite a few left last time I checked. Question though..I can just use a different email and open another account under the same name correct? Cause my account I have now used up all the AFF25s it can back when they still had free shipping.

That code is limited?!?! :shock: I didn't know that.... how many times are you allowed to use it?

[CouRageouS]

Not sure how many times you can use it. But it will say you have used the maximum allowed AFF25 or something. I used it quite a lot cause I got a bunch of GBA and PS2 games and I kept doing it in single orders. Using another email worked fine though. Just did it now.

[MeGaWC27]

http://image1.play-asia.com/170/PA.12237.003.jpg
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-r-70-9fx.html

I think that's a great deal for a light gun game
but its an original jap game :( Well just posting it here for those able to play Japanese light gun games, deal ends in 3 days. It's for $8.90 (US).

[Duo_Maxwell]

Not a bad deal, but I'd rather have the PAL version so I could read it all and what not.

[punqsux]

Cheap ass light gun deals:

endgame for $6.80 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222502.asp

Starsky and Hutch for $7.65 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/236077.asp

dino stalker for $8.50 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222548.asp

Ninja assault for $12.75 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/231873.asp

Not so cheap ass light gun games:

time crisis 2 (no gun) for $17 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209318.asp

RE: Dead Aim for $20.75 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235150.asp

Time Crisis 3 (no gun) for $24.50 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/239016.asp

Vampire Night (no gun?) for $24.50 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209322.asp

if you order more than one game, and the total before coupons is over $20.00 use the AFF25 code as it will save you more money even tho you still pay the $2 shipping.

[Scrubking]

Is Dead Aim any good?

What are the game and controls like?

[punqsux]

i actully havent gotten around to playing dead aim yet. redgopher was raving about it being good tho

[MeGaWC27]

dead aim is like all resident evil games, in third person when walkin, opening doors, and pickin items. but when you encounter an enemy, you can use the guncon and enter 1st person and shoot them. I heard you are given limited bullets and there are puzzles as well. Nonetheless I wanna try this game out, would be fun to play in the dark and shoot the zombies in the head :D

P.S.
I heard people saying the game is bad because it's too short but nearly all guncon games are short.
Here are some movies of Dead Aim, decide if it's good or not yourself: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/residentevildeadaim/media.html

[punqsux]

bump for the added ps1 games

[Duo_Maxwell]

Does anyone know if the Japanese Guncon 2 (even Europe's G-Con 2) will work with USA games?

[Duo_Maxwell]

Cheap ass light gun deals:

endgame for $6.80 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222502.asp

Starsky and Hutch for $7.65 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/236077.asp

dino stalker for $8.50 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/222548.asp

Ninja assault for $12.75 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/231873.asp

Not so cheap ass light gun games:

time crisis 2 (no gun) for $17 shipped Use PPLAY15 and SAVER
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209318.asp

RE: Dead Aim for $20.75 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235150.asp

Time Crisis 3 (no gun) for $24.50 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/239016.asp

Vampire Night (no gun?) for $24.50 shipped use AFF25
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/209322.asp

if you order more than one game, and the total before coupons is over $20.00 use the AFF25 code as it will save you more money even tho you still pay the $2 shipping.

Also don't forget, Starting tomorrow EB has the buy 2 get 1 free deal in stores, so you might check the light gun selection at the local B&M EB too.

[MeGaWC27]

Also don't forget, Starting tomorrow EB has the buy 2 get 1 free deal in stores, so you might check the light gun selection at the local B&M EB too.

Its not just instores, its online also.

Buy 2 Pre-Played Games - Get 1 Free!
Add three Pre-Played video games to your shopping cart and enter coupon code BUY2GET1.

So enjoy for those light-gun fans!

[CouRageouS]

I was lucky enough to snag a $5 Dead Aim from BB online. It does feel like any RE game with little puzzles..though ts mostly finding keys/switches to open doors to the next section. I wouldn't say the bullets are limited though cause every save point room has 6 boxes bullets that refreshes when you re-enter the room. Certainly a fun experience. I only played an hour or so into the game cause I wanna play the rest through with a Guncon2.

But yea I'm sorta pissed that I ordered Endgame and Dino Stalker last week and now they're having a B2G1 sale. Too late to cancel and I could have got something for free. Oh well, I'll probably get use the sale to complete my Guncon collection.

[punqsux]

i started work on that website, guess we'll see how that shapes up.

anyone wanna help with the name? hehe

[Duo_Maxwell]

I would but unfortunately I've always sucked at coming up with names. I mean just look at how unoriginal my screen name is.

[punqsux]

I would but unfortunately I've always sucked at coming up with names. I mean just look at how unoriginal my screen name is.

yeah, i dont want any underscores :wink:

[CouRageouS]

Hey are any of those hunting games lightgun compatible? Like those ones where you hunt deers or bears or whatever. I've seen a couple at arcades, wondering if maybe those couple hunting games I always see lying around at BB can use a lightgun. Just a thought...

[daikaiju]

2 Things...

First - Does anyone know if an original Guncon will work with Ninja Assault? I know it will with Time Crisis 2 and Vampire Night - but I've had no experience with any other ps2 titles.

Second - import gungame that nobody has mentioned - Rescue Shot Bubido. This is a ps1 Guncon game that Namco put out. Pretty strange actually - a rabbit that looks kinda like Doraemon hops through stages while you protect him by shooting falling objects and capping odd looking foes while shooting magic mushroom powerups etc. I guess it's sort of story driven, but I know absolutely 0 Japanese. However, it's not required to get the gist of what you need to do - like all gun games - SHOOT EVERYTHING!

[Duo_Maxwell]

I'm pretty sure that the Guncon 1 will work with any Namco made PS2 game (though TC 3 maybe an exception).

[CouRageouS]

Punq hows the website coming along?

[punqsux]

i just got back from work, i have the basic basic layout done, but thats about it at the moment. still trying to think of a name...something catchy...bang bang? worked for mick foley ^^ i have a bunch of ideas for pagetop banners and junk.

as it stands right now, im going to start off slow. at first it will have info and junk on all ps2 gun games, eventully expanding to ps1, and then expanding to nes. after that, who knows if ill even still feel like working on it or not. depends how the community there goes i guess.

anyways, anyone got names??

[Duo_Maxwell]

Well it's pretty lame but the only thing I could think of was "Shootin' the Lights Out". Ya know cuz light guns and shooting...Ah yeah I admit it I suck at this.

[MeGaWC27]

Gun Shooter?
Light Blasting?
Gun Blasting?
Shooting Things Up?
Blast Your Way Through?

I dunno, that's all I could think of at the moment...

[CouRageouS]

Can't think of a catchy name at the moment but don't forget arcade lightgun games that never made it to console i.e. Jurassic Park, Gunblade, Ocean Hunter, etc. I'll gladly help out with info/research if need be. Theres quite a few arcade only games that you happen to run into here and there. Going to Vegas every year and being under 21, I've seen quite a few of them. I believe some are rare machines, like that one Egyptian themed game with the odd shaped guns. On a side note...Did CarnEvil ever make it to a console?

EDIT:
Okay thought of a name..
-Trigger Happy VG- :twisted:

[punqsux]

hmmm i like the trigger happy name ^^ anyone else have names??

[CouRageouS]

hmmm i like the trigger happy name ^^ anyone else have names??

Yea its pretty catchy. I got the idea from a show called Trigger Happy TV that I'm not sure if it airs anymore. I only saw it once or twice when I was over at a friends place. So I thought Trigger Happy VG would sound cool for your site. It could have a slogan like "The Premier Light Gun Community".

[CouRageouS]

I thought this might be a alright/sorta cheap GunCon2 alternative. Lik-sang has a couple reviews of the gun below. I personally never used lik-sang or play-asia, so perhaps someone can vouch for their reliability..

http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/ps2-gunman_lightgun.jpg
Gunman Lightgun - http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=266&products_id=1608&
$17.90, dunno how much shipping

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-3z-70-18o.html
$8.90 and about $7 is cheapest shipping.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Does anyone know how much Lik-sang's shipping is exactly?

[punqsux]

I thought this might be a alright/sorta cheap GunCon2 alternative. Lik-sang has a couple reviews of the gun below. I personally never used lik-sang or play-asia, so perhaps someone can vouch for their reliability..

http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/ps2-gunman_lightgun.jpg
Gunman Lightgun - http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=266&products_id=1608&
$17.90, dunno how much shipping

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-3z-70-18o.html
$8.90 and about $7 is cheapest shipping.

i saw that gun on play-asia yesterday, but didnt post it because i dont know if it plays the old light gun games or not. i e-mailed tham about it, but they said i wont get a reply until monday

[Duo_Maxwell]

According to Lik-sang's product FAQ it plays PsOne gun games.

[punqsux]

but im worried it only plays ps1 guncon games, i need some guns that will play everything, so im waiting for a reply to that mail ^^

[Duo_Maxwell]

If you're looking for a really good Guncon 2 substitute that''l play PSOne games too, the Scorpion 3 is pretty good.

[punqsux]

scorp 3 has terrible reviews from everywhere i looked

[Duo_Maxwell]

Well I like it, it's not guncon 2 material, but I got a good deal on it and it's easy to hold and control IMO. Also, does anyone know anything about that Cosmo RF Wireless gun? I was wondering about it and was wondering if anyone had used it.

[CouRageouS]

Cool tidbit for anyone thinking about getting an import gun..most of them have a little plug in the bottom for a pedal extension. Its called a "Reload Pedal". I think they're cheap, been trying to google out a place to order one or perhaps 2 for split screen play.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/f6554604.jpg

I found a import gun I like. I don't like that the D-Pad is on the side but I love it cause it has kickback on it and reviews I've read said its as close to the arcade as it gets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/missionlughtgun.jpg
Mission Light Gun. Cheapest I found is around $24 shipped. I'm strongly considering ordering 2. It would be insanely fun to play Crisis Zone with 2 of those and a pedal.

Here's another one I like.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/megaprocyber.jpg
Mega Pro Cyber Gun. $20 shipped and the D-Pad is on the back. Doesn't have kickback BUT has vibration. I might try one of these out if I can't find a pedal cause the Mission's side D-Pad is a major turn-off for me. Oh and both of these guns work on all 3 types of lightgun games.

My cousin has the scorpion3. The laser is pretty much a novelty and the gun just feels too thick. Those Wireless guns look pretty cool cause they're rechargeable and all but I think since its imported, the a/c adapter/plug might be not be US friendly. You might be able to find an alternative adapter but eh...I'd rather have kickback and optional pedal than wireless. Sorta costly as well.

[punqsux]

wow if you order that misson light gun post how it is, that looks sweet (except the dpad) but the pedal would solve that XoD

[punqsux]

yeah so i just finished making a banner...ill prolly make 3 or 4 before i decide on one to use. but here s the one i have done now.

http://www.atari.net/sites/et/topbanner.jpg

[MeGaWC27]

Banner doesn't look bad but seems kinda old. Guess I was looking foward to seeing pics, or graphics from recent games on the banner :P .
Better than what I could've done hehe.

[punqsux]

haha yeah, but newer graphics are harder to work with, there are almost no good high res images of them. old sprites you can enlarge to whatever size you want.

however one banner im working on will lbe using the guys from point blank...so fear not ^^

sprites are just SO much easier to work with, and i only have limited graphic design and web design capabilities ^^

[Sheik Rattle Enroll]

2 Things...

First - Does anyone know if an original Guncon will work with Ninja Assault? I know it will with Time Crisis 2 and Vampire Night - but I've had no experience with any other ps2 titles.



It will NOT work with Ninja Assault, it needs a GC2. But trust me, Ninja Assault really really blows anyway.

[punqsux]

couple more things i worked on

http://www.atari.net/sites/et/trigger.gif
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/topbannerpoint.jpg

[Jaket]

^^ badass!

[punqsux]

cleaned up the point blank one a bit

http://www.atari.net/sites/et/blankbanner2.jpg

[mikefust]

Elemental Gearbolt is awesome. It is one of my favorite games. If you guys haven't played it you should. It's really one of a kind. It's like a sci-fi shooter set to orchestral music with anime cutscenes. It just doesn't get much better than that . . .

[Duo_Maxwell]

Cool tidbit for anyone thinking about getting an import gun..most of them have a little plug in the bottom for a pedal extension. Its called a "Reload Pedal". I think they're cheap, been trying to google out a place to order one or perhaps 2 for split screen play.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/f6554604.jpg

I found a import gun I like. I don't like that the D-Pad is on the side but I love it cause it has kickback on it and reviews I've read said its as close to the arcade as it gets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/missionlughtgun.jpg
Mission Light Gun. Cheapest I found is around $24 shipped. I'm strongly considering ordering 2. It would be insanely fun to play Crisis Zone with 2 of those and a pedal.

Here's another one I like.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/megaprocyber.jpg
Mega Pro Cyber Gun. $20 shipped and the D-Pad is on the back. Doesn't have kickback BUT has vibration. I might try one of these out if I can't find a pedal cause the Mission's side D-Pad is a major turn-off for me. Oh and both of these guns work on all 3 types of lightgun games.

My cousin has the scorpion3. The laser is pretty much a novelty and the gun just feels too thick. Those Wireless guns look pretty cool cause they're rechargeable and all but I think since its imported, the a/c adapter/plug might be not be US friendly. You might be able to find an alternative adapter but eh...I'd rather have kickback and optional pedal than wireless. Sorta costly as well.

Yeah the mission lightgun looks pretty boss. I found that the RF Wireless gun works in the US, but it's only supports Guncon 2 games (i.e. not PS1 gun games) and seeing how it's so pricey, I'll pass on it. Def. let us know how the mission ligth gun with the pedal works out.

[Duo_Maxwell]

http://www.ps2home.co.uk/Image325.jpg

That's the P 99 G2 Gun, another gun with recoil, and actually includes a foot pedal for reloading according to the Amazon UK listing. Unfrotunately it's OOS and seeing as how it's PAL region I doubt if it work work on a US PS2 and TV.

[CouRageouS]

Haha do I get a prize for thinking up the name for the site? Awesome banners Punq. What are those Bert and Ernie guys named anyway?

Still haven't found a pedal. If I ever give on up it I may just try to hit up Japantown..though some of their videogame shit can be horribly expensive. Haven't been there for a long time but there was this one store that had all the Bemani controllers so its worth a shot. I really want a pair of Missions now. Pretty crazy considering the only PS2 gun game I actually have in possession is Dead Aim. TC3 w/Guncon2, Dino Stalker, Ninja Assault, and Endgame are incoming. Then I'd only need to get TC2 and Vampire Night. I'm stoked for Crisis Zone too. They showed a great preview for it on Gamer Nation this weekend.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I found a guide for building your own foot pedal. i suck at adapting/building electronics, but if you're good you may consider it.

http://wrongcrowd.com/arcade/pedalp1.shtml

I also hear you can use some racing foot pedals.

[CouRageouS]

Thats just too risky. Instead of putting a hole in your GunCon like that, you could just use a circuit board/controller plug from a PS1 controller and fashion it into a pedal(or just some large button to step on) to plug into the 2nd port. Of course I'm way too lazy to do that.

[punqsux]

i just use a ddr pad....

[CouRageouS]

i just use a ddr pad....
Thats a pretty good idea. I should check if my ddr pads still work. They've been tucked away for quite awhile.

[punqsux]

i just use a ddr pad....
Thats a pretty good idea. I should check if my ddr pads still work. They've been tucked away for quite awhile.

they dont even have to fully work, you just need one direction to work and youre all set ^^

[dracula]

Does anyone know how much Lik-sang's shipping is exactly?

lik-sang's shipping is included in the purchase price.

[CouRageouS]

^^Really? Thats a pretty good deal then. I may pick up a Mission from there. Here's a site I found with a Reload Pedal for $3.99. http://www.baysoftgames.com/liggunrelped.html. Dunno if its reliable though so I'm still looking.

[punqsux]

people say bad things about baysoft games. i personally dealt with them once through ebay and it want fine, so they may be hot or miss.

[alfonsosoriano]

I only have TC3 and Endgame for Guncon2 games. I really, really want to get RE:Dead Aim but I refuse to pay more than $10 for it.

[CouRageouS]

Yea Dead Aim is a short and definately not worth paying more than $15. I didn't even realize it but I'm at the last boss in normal mode in only around 2 hours of play. Probably worth another go in Hard mode since normal was too easy.

[CouRageouS]

people say bad things about baysoft games. i personally dealt with them once through ebay and it want fine, so they may be hot or miss.
I think I found a Yahoo! store that also has it for $3.99. Probably gonna go with that cause it has free USPS shipping. I just need to for sure have a pedal before I invest in a Mission. That side D-Pad just plain sucks.

[Scrubking]

But trust me, Ninja Assault really really blows anyway.

No it doesn't :roll:

[CouRageouS]

Yea all the Namco shooters are great IMO. Otherwise I wouln't be having this current lightgun craze.

[BustaUppa]

Maybe I shouldn't bring this up on the PS2 board, but this discussion is just so lively...

Anyone know anything about PC light guns? It would rock to use two lightguns with MAME. The selection of lightgun games available is huge, especially compared to what we get on most consoles.

[guessed]

Well, I finally found a clean used copy of Vampire Night at EB last night, so I did the buy 2 get 1 free. They had a TCII, but it was $39.99!!! I had them check it, and they said that was the right price, but I now realize they must have stickered it as the version with guncon2 (which it was not). Oh well, I'll complete my collection sometime.

[CouRageouS]

EB has TC2 for $39.99 with the guncon, $19.99 without. PO of course. Vampire Night is the only sorta pricey one at $29.99 without the gun. I believe awhile ago they had it with the gun at $34.99. Would be OOS real fast though.

[punqsux]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8123553440

i got 2 of that gun for 17$ shipped from that guy, i hope it works out ok.

it too has the funky side d-pad...so we'll see how that works out

[guessed]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8123553440

i got 2 of that gun for 17$ shipped from that guy, i hope it works out ok.

it too has the funky side d-pad...so we'll see how that works out

Keep us posted on how that gun performs.

[CouRageouS]

dude! those are GREEN MISSIONS!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/same.jpg
After looking at it and reading that it also has kickback, I knew they were one in the same. You definately need to get a pedal now Punq. If that goes through for 2 for $17, you think you could see if the seller would give you 2 more at the same price? I'll buy them off you for $25 if you could.

[punqsux]

dude! those are GREEN MISSIONS!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/same.jpg
After looking at it and reading that it also has kickback, I knew they were one in the same. You definately need to get a pedal now Punq. If that goes through for 2 for $17, you think you could see if the seller would give you 2 more at the same price? I'll buy them off you for $25 if you could.

i sent him an e-mail, ill let you know what he says.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I've noticed the Misson light gun is just like the Spymaster, only Spymaster guns are modeled after a Beretta instead of a desert eagle.

[CouRageouS]

Scratch that request Punq, I'm just gonna email the seller

EDIT: Oh well since you already went and asked thats cool. Thanks!

[Smell]

i just picked up Time Crisis 3 with gun...
My dad played it for 4 hours straight today/yesterday

[punqsux]

i just picked up Time Crisis 3 with gun...
My dad played it for 4 hours straight today/yesterday

your dad rules!

[CouRageouS]

i just picked up Time Crisis 3 with gun...
My dad played it for 4 hours straight today/yesterday
Haha cool I used to play Point Blank with my pop. And went we take family trips to Vegas(I'm only 19, no gambling yet), he'd always play those big game hunter games while takin breaks from gambling.

[Smell]

lol my dad loves the big game hunter

he was asking me if we could play it with the light gun on ps2. i told him No he sounded bummed out

[punqsux]

those hunting games should be set up similar to dino stalker. it only makes sence...

[Duo_Maxwell]

I wish you could play those games with the SS Light Rifle on Xbox, seeing as how you can't use it in rifle mode for anything other than SS.

[punqsux]

i heard that rifle sucked

[Duo_Maxwell]

Yeah it pretty much does...it does not work well at all for the game it is named after. And while the shotgun breakdown is pretty cool for HotD 2+3, it gets pretty heavy after awhile thanks to the extra weight over a pistol model.

[CouRageouS]

I think I'm gonna search more and see if perhaps those guns come in more colors under different names. Would be cool to know if there was a bigger selection of that awesome gun.

[punqsux]

CouRageouS i heard back from the seller and he said its cool so he's shipping me 4 guns. ill let you know when they get here

[sying]

i heard that rifle sucked

The silent scope rifles were recalled as defective.

Keep an eye out for Crisis Zone coming out for PS2. Yes I said crisis zone, machine gun crisis zone. :D

[Duo_Maxwell]

I'm pretty sure they weren't recalled. I know there were some voltage problems between the rifle and some xboxes, but Pelican setup a number for you to call and get a replacement cable. I never heard that the rifle was actually recalled.

[CouRageouS]

Keep an eye out for Crisis Zone coming out for PS2. Yes I said crisis zone, machine gun crisis zone. :D
Its coming out in Mid-October. No special machine gun controller, however it does offer a dual gun mode and other console bonuses.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I wish they would make a machine gun controller...that'd be awesome, but not really cost effective for them I suppose.

[CouRageouS]

That machine gun is huge. If you really wanted something special though, you can import UZI lightguns. But I'm just glad Namco decided to release Crisis Zone. Chronologically it was in the arcades before TC3, but wasn't very popular. So I guess they had to update it and such to TC3 standards. The PS2 Crisis Zone has way better graphics than the arcade version and a lot of other improvements. Dual gun mode sold me.

[snipegod]

Besides Time Crisis 2&3 (which I've played many times in the local arcade), what are the best lightgun games for PS2?

I'm going to assume that the low pricepoint on EndGame means it sucks, and I've heard that Ninja Assault isn't that great either. My preconception is that RE: Dead Aim and Vampire Night are the two best games (besides the Time Crisis series).

Any suggestions/critisisms on the few lightgun games available for PS2?

[snipegod]

Edit: Double post.

There really should be a "delete your own post" feature.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I'd say in my experience, the next best is indeed Vampire Night. Dino Stalker and Dead Aim aren't that bad really at all. I haven't played ninja Assualt enough to pass a complete judgement probably. However, all of them may be stepped over by Crisis Zone when it hits shelves.

[CouRageouS]

Endgame is alright for what it is but I have to say outside of TC, Vampire Night and Ninja Assault are the winners. If not just for the entertainment value they can bring alone then for the two player joy it can bring. A lot of people complain about Ninja Assault being short or whatnot, but its still a high quality game. Dead Aim is certainly fun but I wouldn't rank it high up there with the Namco shooters. Just imagine a regular RE game except you do all the shooting in first person with a Gun. Not enough action to where you'll play it over and over like the Namco shooters. It was also extremely easy. You could beat it in about an hour if you don't kill everything. I haven't got my copy Dino Stalker in the mail yet, but it looks to have a lot more action than Dead Aim. Sure hope it does.

[Scrubking]

I have Time Crisis 2, Vampire Night, and Ninja Assault and they are all GREAT games. And Ninja Assault is longer than Time Crisis 2.

[CouRageouS]

Just got my copy of Dino Stalker in the mail. Played the first couple stages. Dunno how long it it but I like it better than Dead Aim since you stay in first person and don't switch between first and third to shoot and walk. Its like your playing a FPS with a lightgun, pretty damn fun.

[CouRageouS]

CouRageouS i heard back from the seller and he said its cool so he's shipping me 4 guns. ill let you know when they get here
I cant believe I didnt notice that post! Thanks Punq! Very much appreciated! Hit me up with a PM when you get them. I also found what seems to be a reliable site for a Reload Pedal. They emailed me back and forth a couple times cause I asked them about it. I'll post the link later cause I'm not on my comp right now. Thanks again!

[snipegod]

My copy of Time Crisis 3 (with guncon2) should be arriving on my porch in a little under 2 hours, give or take. I can't wait to play it.

I also picked up Dino Stalker at EB Games while they were doing the Buy2Get1 free deal on preowned (my stepbrother got the other two games, making mine only five bucks :-p, after splitting the free price-point).

Best Buy should be shipping my $5.00 RE: Dead Aim sometime within the next week, so all that I have left to get are Vampire Night and Ninja Assault. I guess I should have picked up those two and Time Crisis 2 online during the B2G1 deal. Oh well.

[CouRageouS]

Just wait till you unlock Rescue Mission mode in TC3. Surprisingly fun and prolongs the game. Are you also gonna get Endgame and Starsky and Hutch or do you have them already? I say since your investing in a GunCon2, might as well pick up all 8 games since half of them are can be found under $15. And consider getting a second gun for 2 player and dual gun modes. Thanks to Punq, in a couple weeks this is what I can't wait for...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/d0ad03c7.jpg+http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/d0ad03c7.jpg+http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/c0urage0us/beanbag.jpg =
Lazy Dual Gun Gaming!

[Parathod]

I just ordered the Gunvari Collection from T n' J. Does anyone know a site that has Virtua Cop: Rebirth for cheap?

[Duo_Maxwell]

Hey Courageous, I'm curious, did you ever find a good site to buy a Reloading pedal from?

[CouRageouS]

I've found several sites that have the Reload Pedal. The general cost is only $4, some places are just fuck you over with the shipping. I think I may go ahead and take a chance ordering from this one place. Its a Yahoo! store and they offer free USPS shipping. Though I won't get one (perhaps 2) till those Desert Eagles come in.

[punqsux]

the eagles showed up at my apartment, however im not there so ill have to deal with that monday. but i should have them soon!!

ive been insanley busy with life recently, but i still plan on doing that website, i just need a bit of free time.

thanks for keeping this topic alive guys!

[CouRageouS]

^^ Coolness. Can't wait to hear how they perform. Can't wait even more to get my pair from ya. I feel you on being crazy busy too..Summer is coming to an end..back to just school and work! I'll paypal you the money for the guns and rf2 asap though. Fall tuition, books, and spending more than expected on my bday (18th) set me back a bit but I'll only need a few extra days.

[punqsux]

i just picked up the DEagles this morning from ups and those are nice guns! i havent really played with them much, but i tryed all 3 kinds og games (area 51, point blank 3, and time crisis 3) and no real problems yet! the recoil on these guns is AWESOME! if feels so much more like the arcade. the guns are not as comfortable as the guncon 2. the grip is bigger, but its not a problem after a couple rounds.

my roomate and i just got done playing a bit of ninja assault 2 player, man that game is sweet. i dont see why everyone hates it.

anyways ill prolly post more later!

[punqsux]

i edited some of the deals on the first page since aff25 expired.

also Revolution X does NOT have light gun support!!

[CouRageouS]

Haha is Revolution X that machine gun game with Aerosmith where they tell you that music is the key and you shoot CDs? I think they actually may still have that at my local bowling alley.

[gamefreak]

Any deals on the guns themselves?

[CouRageouS]

Check out page 6 of this thread for a couple. But if you still haven't I suggested getting a PO TC3 w/ GunCon2 from ebgames. AFF25 is gone but you still get a brand new one for under $40.

Punq, how bout a pic or 2 of the Eagle side by side with the GC2. I'm thinking you may have found the best GunCon2 alternative (if not better)

[punqsux]

i took some earlier, ill pull them off my camera and post them.

the cord on the DEagles is WAY longer. (youll see)

[-BigC-]

Im intrested in those Green mission guns

Anyone know where I could gettem?Saw a pair on Ebay I think not real big on trusting someone else to send me something after I paid for it thou.

gonna be expensive but ive had a urge to play light gun games

new ps2 150
games 70 or so
guns 30?

thats alot of money :(

[punqsux]

get a refurb ps2 and tc3 w/gun

that right there will run you $140 shipped from ebgames and onn top of that they have a deal where you can get madden 04 and mgs2 with the ps2. so its 140 for the console 3 games and a gun...not bad.

[gamefreak]

Did you ever pick up that Mission gun Rage? If so how is it and where'd ya get it?

From what I've read a GC2 wouldn't work with the older games which I'd like it to do. Did I read wrong or is this indeed the case?

[punqsux]

heres the link for the refurb ps2 ($120)
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/systems/default.asp?sys=ps2

heres tc3 w/gun
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235842.asp
use codes pplay15 and saver to bring tc3 down to $37 shipped.

you might want to pick up endgame and ninja assault while youre at it (since they're cheap)

[CouRageouS]

Did you ever pick up that Mission gun Rage? If so how is it and where'd ya get it?

From what I've read a GC2 wouldn't work with the older games which I'd like it to do. Did I read wrong or is this indeed the case?

Punq actually got me a pair of the same green Desert Eagle lightguns he got from ebay, but the desert eagles are the same as the black Missions just different color and marked under a different name. You could pick them up from lik-sang or play-asia from around $20 something.

And yea the GC2 only works with PS2 games cause it hooks up to the USB port. To play older games, you need a Gun that goes into the controller port. Most import guns have the double plug (USB/Controller), allowing you to play either.

[gamefreak]

Quite nice, I'll try grabbing one of them and then maybe TC3 used without the gun.

Thanks!

[CouRageouS]

If you're going to get TC3 used you might as well pay a little bit extra and get it with the gun. ebgames sends you a brand new one with free 3day ups. and besides, why pass up on another gun?!

[gamefreak]

Good point there but then that's another gun that only works with PS2 games right?

[CouRageouS]

You'll be all set for 2 Player though! And theres 8 PS2 games, 9 come October when Crisis Zone releases. I don't think the fact that it only works with PS2 games is anything to hold against it. It'll be good to have the GunCon 2, I just think they're so sturdy and great incase something goes wrong with the import guns. I still have my original GunCon and it works perfectly.

[gamefreak]

Ahhhh, gotcha. Yeah, with that many ones for the PS2 I probably won't *need* PS1 games :)

Thanks again ;)

[-BigC-]

Hey!

Go to mtvshop and preorder Crisis Zone with gun for 41$ free shipping

:D

[punqsux]

Hey!

Go to mtvshop and preorder Crisis Zone with gun for 41$ free shipping

:D

do you need a code or something?
shows up at $54 for me...
http://mtvshop.mtv.com/product.aspx?sku=50018413

[-BigC-]

Add it to your cart

Note on the top left of the games page it says

"Spend 50$ and we will pay the first 8.99 for you"

Plus enter SUMMER as the code

And it turns it into 41$ :D

[punqsux]

nice deal! im thinking about it!

[gamefreak]

*ordered TC3 from EBgames*

I only hope it's not scratched beyond playability (it is used)...

Edit: About that other gun... is it *better* than the GunCon2? There are some nifty deals on Ebay involving getting another GC2 with a game that I might pickup if that be the case...

Edit Again: The problem with this site: you get a good deal and then find you could have gotten a better one :-/

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3083379

Anyway to cancle an EB order?

And another edit: Yes, just have to call EB. Auctually quite nice about it.

Now that you've heard my saga, aren't you glad I know how to use the edit button? ;)

[punqsux]

ok ive almost completed the playstation luight gun collection! all i need now are the following games!!!

Time Crisis: Project Titan - found for $10, thinking about it
Point Blank - not found yet
Gunfighter: Jesse James - $6 from ebgames
Leathel Enforcers 1+2 - found for $15, am very close to paying that, even tho i cant really afford to lol
Elemental Gearbolt - 17 at ebgames.com kinda high priced

if anyone has any of these 5 games and wants to trade, please let me know! i want to get the full collection!

[CouRageouS]

*ordered TC3 from EBgames*

I only hope it's not scratched beyond playability (it is used)...

Edit: About that other gun... is it *better* than the GunCon2? There are some nifty deals on Ebay involving getting another GC2 with a game that I might pickup if that be the case...

Edit Again: The problem with this site: you get a good deal and then find you could have gotten a better one :-/

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3083379

Anyway to cancle an EB order?

And another edit: Yes, just have to call EB. Auctually quite nice about it.

Now that you've heard my saga, aren't you glad I know how to use the edit button? ;)

So you cancelled your order of TC3 to get TC2 instead?

BigC, thanks for the Crisis Zone deal! I'm really thinking about just placing the preorder since I can cancel anyway, though I gotta check to make sure they odn't charge you till it ships. BTW the release date is October 19th, same date as GTA: SA. Thats another reason why I'm not sure if I should buy Crisis Zone or not.

[Duo_Maxwell]

It was established in one of the MTV threads, that they do not charge you until it ships out.

[CouRageouS]

Cool thanks! Though I cannot get the Summer code to work. Is that $8.29 on $50 already the code? It goes down to $46 after I add it to my card. How do I get it down to $41?

[gamefreak]

*ordered TC3 from EBgames*

I only hope it's not scratched beyond playability (it is used)...

Edit: About that other gun... is it *better* than the GunCon2? There are some nifty deals on Ebay involving getting another GC2 with a game that I might pickup if that be the case...

Edit Again: The problem with this site: you get a good deal and then find you could have gotten a better one :-/

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3083379

Anyway to cancle an EB order?

And another edit: Yes, just have to call EB. Auctually quite nice about it.

Now that you've heard my saga, aren't you glad I know how to use the edit button? ;)

So you cancelled your order of TC3 to get TC2 instead?

BigC, thanks for the Crisis Zone deal! I'm really thinking about just placing the preorder since I can cancel anyway, though I gotta check to make sure they odn't charge you till it ships. BTW the release date is October 19th, same date as GTA: SA. Thats another reason why I'm not sure if I should buy Crisis Zone or not.

Yes yes. Better to get TC2 new with a gun at a cheap prices and then get TC3 in store or online without the gun so it's not scratched. Plus I figured it'd probably be harder to find TC2 in stores.

[Duo_Maxwell]

they take the $8 off automatically when it adds to you cart. SUMMMER is the 10% off code, but it looks as though it isn't working anymore. Perhaps yet another deal killed by CAG? Anyhow, Crisis Zone w/ Guncon 2 for $46 shipped isn't too bad either.

[MeGaWC27]

bummer... woulda been nice to preorder Crisis Zone w/ G2 for around 40 bucks...
I found a copy of Point Blank 3 in my local TRU when I was there searching for TRU sale games (8/23 yea I caught up on the deal too late) but I didn't buy it cause I don't have the original guncon for playstation. I was surprised to see that game there though.

[ZombieHendrix]

I've been looking for a light gun with recoil for a while, and this mission light gun looks good. Since I'd prefer to go with a black one and lik-sang.com has them, has anyone bought from lik-sang before? Or heard wether they are trustworthy?

[gamefreak]

I've been looking for a light gun with recoil for a while, and this mission light gun looks good. Since I'd prefer to go with a black one and lik-sang.com has them, has anyone bought from lik-sang before? Or heard wether they are trustworthy?

They should be, they are widly knowen.

Speaking of this, it's 35% off if you get 5 guns. Would it be possible that there's anyone else out there that would double up so to speak? If we ordered in bulk we could save a bit.

(It's auctually cheaper (shipping exluceded) to buy 5 of them than 4. Odd that...)

[gamefreak]

ok ive almost completed the playstation luight gun collection! all i need now are the following games!!!

Time Crisis: Project Titan - found for $10, thinking about it
Point Blank - not found yet
Gunfighter: Jesse James - $6 from ebgames
Leathel Enforcers 1+2 - found for $15, am very close to paying that, even tho i cant really afford to lol
Elemental Gearbolt - 17 at ebgames.com kinda high priced

if anyone has any of these 5 games and wants to trade, please let me know! i want to get the full collection!

Since you are teh uber king of teh light gun, recommend any non-TC games to pick up?

[punqsux]

zombie-the missions are AWESOME light guns! it takes a little getting used to the feel (these are alot bigger than guncons) but the recoil is great on them.

gamefreak - if youre talking ps2 - get ninja assault, its sweet and has some nice mini games.

if youre talking old school pick up point blank orarea 51, awesome games.

[ZombieHendrix]

I'll mention this since it hasnt been. I've only done this with TC 1 but I did it on both a PS1 and a PS2 so I figure it'll work with all games. If you play single player style you can plug a playstation steering wheel into second player and use it's foot pedals as a peak and hide foot pedal, give you an arcade feel if you dont want to buy a non-gun con gun with a optional pedal.

[punqsux]

I'll mention this since it hasnt been. I've only done this with TC 1 but I did it on both a PS1 and a PS2 so I figure it'll work with all games. If you play single player style you can plug a playstation steering wheel into second player and use it's foot pedals as a peak and hide foot pedal, give you an arcade feel if you dont want to buy a non-gun con gun with a optional pedal.

it works with a ddr pad as well!

[gamefreak]

So how does that work with a gun that plugs into the regular controller port?

[CouRageouS]

^^ Haha I brought up the second port thing and punq said the same thing about the ddr pad couple pages ago.

Looks like I'm just going to pass on the Crisis Zone Pre-Order. Even though the graphics and game are nicely improved for the console, I'll probably be getting GTA as my big October game. I can wait to complete my collection. Still need Vampire Nights and TC2. Probably will get Starsky and Hutch eventually.

[CouRageouS]

So how does that work with a gun that plugs into the regular controller port?
First port has the gun, second port has whatever controller (ddr, steering wheel, dual shock) you'll use for pedal.

[gamefreak]

So how does that work with a gun that plugs into the regular controller port?
First port has the gun, second port has whatever controller (ddr, steering wheel, dual shock) you'll use for pedal.

Would it be possible to have a Guncon in the usb and then someone in the first port and program one pad to reload one and the other the other?

[CouRageouS]

The way you worded your question is a little off. But I'll try to answer as best I can. The first controller port is your pedal to the first USB port. So if you were using 2 GunCon2s (they only connect through USB) when you play 2 player split screen, the first and second controller port would be the pedal ports for their respective USB ports. I think that should answer your question.

[punqsux]

for the missons you need to have the controller port because the controller port provides the power for the recoil action. or you can just use the gun w/o recoil

[CouRageouS]

So can you play TC3 with recoil? Isn't it GC2/USB only?

[ZombieHendrix]

lik-sang charges at the cheapest $13 for shipping and it'll take 2-4 weeks to get to the US and candada. I dont know if I want to pay an extra $13 for the Mission light gun only especially if it'll take that long,b ut I may have to. Haven't seen it anywhere else.

[punqsux]

So can you play TC3 with recoil? Isn't it GC2/USB only?ok heres how the gun works:

when its set on guncon 2 mode, you have to have the Video and the usb plugged in to use the gun
if you want to use the recoil on the gun, you have to plug the controller port from the gun into the ps2.
you can plug it in either port, since all youre using it for is to transfer power to the gun to set off the recoil action.

[gamefreak]

lik-sang charges at the cheapest $13 for shipping and it'll take 2-4 weeks to get to the US and candada. I dont know if I want to pay an extra $13 for the Mission light gun only especially if it'll take that long,b ut I may have to. Haven't seen it anywhere else.

That's not good. Is the thing available anywhere else to ya'lls knowledge?

[CouRageouS]

Thanks for the explanation Punq.

gamefreak, you might wanna just try ebay. Punq got them cheap and the only difference is they're green. How bout those pics Punq? :D

[Duo_Maxwell]

lik-sang charges at the cheapest $13 for shipping and it'll take 2-4 weeks to get to the US and candada. I dont know if I want to pay an extra $13 for the Mission light gun only especially if it'll take that long,b ut I may have to. Haven't seen it anywhere else.

That's not good. Is the thing available anywhere else to ya'lls knowledge?

I know the Go! Cyber Shop sells the Mission Gun, but I think it's near $28 dollars and I have no idea how much their shipping is so it may be a couple dollars more than lik-sang. However, it shouldn't take 2 weeks or whatever to get to you.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Also Consolefever.com sells it for $19, again I don't know thie shipping or if they are a reliable site either. Has anyone ever ordered from them before??

[gamefreak]

Thanks for the explanation Punq.

gamefreak, you might wanna just try ebay. Punq got them cheap and the only difference is they're green. How bout those pics Punq? :D

Yeah, I saw them :)

[punqsux]

the pics will be up shortly.

[punqsux]

check out the diffrence in length of the cords between the DEagle and the guncon 2. twice as long!!
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/cords.jpg

Pics showing how much larger the deagle is than the guncon
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/sides.jpg
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/ontop.jpg

Left Side
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/left1bubbles.jpg
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/left2bubbles.jpg

Right Side
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/rightbubble.jpg

Back
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/triggerbubble.jpg

Grip
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/gripbutton.jpg

Bottom
http://www.atari.net/sites/et/DEagle/bottombubble.jpg

I have a video of the recoil in action. its 5 seconds long and 1.2 megs, if anyone wants it AIM me and ill transfer it.

[punqsux]

i got the video online!!
your browser must support quicktime, just click it normally and it should play if that does not work, just right click, save link to disk:

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/412d41fa_de74/bc/My+Documents/gun.MOV?bfiaULBBWRieHE7c

[CouRageouS]

FUCKING SWEET MAN! Can't wait till I get my hands on the pair you sent me! 2 things though..the link isn't working and does that 2nd A button get hit a lot on accident?

[CouRageouS]

That C Button is pretty awersome too!

[punqsux]

the link for the video? did you try it both ways?

no the grip button does not get hit accidently, its vey sturdy, and works very nicley for games like ninja assault.

[gamefreak]

Doesn't work here either :(

[punqsux]

well if anyone knows how to post a video anywhere, please let me know lol

[-BigC-]

Didnt see a link

KNow a place where I can buy those guns? :o

[CouRageouS]

I tried using the url http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/412d41fa_de74/bc/My+Documents/gun.MOV that time it let me into yahoo but it said it was forbidden. Maybe post a video on whatever server you were going to start a website?

[MeGaWC27]

wow the deagle looks mad hot.
hmm... considering about gettin it now...

[punqsux]

i loked online and i cant find these guns anywhere w/o them being 35 each. the ebay seller i got them from seems to be all out, or at least not listing them at the moment.

[BustaUppa]

I see some Madcatz guns at EB/Gamestop all the time. They're blue with like a double handle (machine-gun style) and they have a Guncon/Guncon2/other switch. Plus there's a d-pad on the back of the gun. They were $30 each new... that actually seems a bit more than some of these other deals. Anyway, does anyone know if those are any good? I'm still not sure if I'll wait a couple years for the inevitable Guncon3 or if I'll take the plunge now...

[ZombieHendrix]

You can get it at Go! Cyber and Lik-sang for $33, but lik-sang will take 4-6 weeks. That consolefever.com looks like the best buy so far, but has anyone used it before?

[Duo_Maxwell]

Yeah actually after shipping it's 33 at consolefever.com too. Though I'm still curious to see if anyone has ever used them before?

[-BigC-]

at console fever i cant find the green mission ones :(

[CouRageouS]

I see some Madcatz guns at EB/Gamestop all the time. They're blue with like a double handle (machine-gun style) and they have a Guncon/Guncon2/other switch. Plus there's a d-pad on the back of the gun. They were $30 each new... that actually seems a bit more than some of these other deals. Anyway, does anyone know if those are any good? I'm still not sure if I'll wait a couple years for the inevitable Guncon3 or if I'll take the plunge now...
I've read horrible reviews of the Madcatz Blaster. $30 for it is WAY too much too. CC.com has it for $19.99 but I still would suggest against it. I can't stress enough to anyone who doesn't have a GunCon2 and wants one to just pick up a used TC3 w/Guncon2 from ebgames.com. You can get it for under $40 still using 15% off. Not to mention they give you a NEW copy and free 3 Day shipping. The second best option is TC2 w/ GC2 at outpost.com for $29.99 (+$5 shipping?).

Take the plunge man! Last month I went all out and got RE: Dead Aim, TC3 w/gun, Dino Stalker, Endgame, Ninja Assault all in the period of 2 weeks and I think it was worth it! And it all started cause I got that damn RE: DA for $5 from BB.com.

[AlbinoNinja]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone must have mentioned this... but I'm too lazy to loook through the pages, so I'll just ask it here:
How would you set up a light gun?
Is it just plug in and ur done, or are there complicated connections?
Do you need a special TV to play it, or will anything work?

[gamefreak]

Time Crisis 2 got here today (go Outpost, really fast shipping) and much fun was had. Now I just need another gun and a game or two and I'm set!

[Duo_Maxwell]

at console fever i cant find the green mission ones :(

They're black, technically, the green ones aren't really Mission light guns if my understanding is correct, they are modeled exactly the same as the mission light gun (or vice versa).

[punqsux]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone must have mentioned this... but I'm too lazy to loook through the pages, so I'll just ask it here:
How would you set up a light gun?
Is it just plug in and ur done, or are there complicated connections?
Do you need a special TV to play it, or will anything work?

there are 2 plugs for a guncon 2.
one goes into the video input on your tv/vcr, and the other goes into the ps2 usb port.

the guncon 1 is almost the same, but instead of the usb port, it goes into the controller port.

the green gun pictured above (and many 3rd party guns) have all 3 cords, but you only NEED a combonation of the 2

[gamefreak]

Hey for TC2 I've heard that two player is split screen. Is there a mode to do it full screen with two guns?

[CouRageouS]

I think theres a Dual Gun mode, not sure though.