what to do when the secret service knock on your door

[daddiebigbig]

I made 3 20's on the scanner. I scanned one bill and made 3 copies of a 20. I only copied the front side of the bill in color. to trick my friends to think the found 60 dollars. I woke up today to find the secret service knocking on the door . 2 months later asking what when and how I did them. my only intention was to play a trick on one of my friends the fakes disappear after the joke and I never thought about it and passed it out of my mind. well today I found out that one of my "friends" put them in their pocket and tried to pass the one sided bill off at the firework store. and they got in trouble but passed it off like oh I did not know so there were let off of the hook.
then the local gov't came to there house and my "friend" told them I did it on my scanner not that they found them but that I made them on the scanner
now I am faceing charges I have to go to the federal buliding tomorrow and I might be prosecuted all the way from a felony down to a misdeameaner of crimnal mischeif.

what should I do?

I am 19 and live in ohio.

[Grave_Addiction]

Go to Mexico ... NOW!

[zewone]

what should I do?

Think of a better lie.

[Jaket]

LMAO your so fucked!

[Ikohn4ever]

it was a science project, and get better friends

[punqsux]

dude that sucks, hopefully they arent too rough on you, i mean youre not running some crime rings you were playing a joke on a friend

[Graystone]

damn dude just face the music if you have a good record they proably will give it to you easy probation, a month in jail, or even just the mischeif charge which would be a ticket for like 100 bucks or so. which state you live in.

godspeed

[XboxMaster]

Damn, that sucks.

[daddiebigbig]

which state you live in.godspeed

Ohio

[Mr Unoriginal]

I smell Federal "Pound me in the ass" Prison.

[secretvampire]

The real question is...how old are you? If you are a minor, they probably aren't going to do shit to you but give you a slap on the wrist to scare you.

[6669]

Did you actually try and spend it on something? If so, then your screwed. If your still a minor, just tell them you were messing around and never meant to use it, and hopefully they'll just give you the misdemeanor. BTW, the Secret Service came to you for that?

[minos1067]

say it was an art project and you were making a collage or something and then they ended up missing. the only defense i could think is "hey, at least i didn't copy the other side!"

otherwise, get a good criminal lyer.

[LV-426RS]

Just stick to your story and do not stray. They will ask the same question 20 different ways. Be consistant with your answers.

[Graystone]

1st kick the shit out of your "friend" you are already in trouble so why not.
2nd just plead no contest when or if you do go to court
3rd face it and go on with your life.
hopefully they will be easy on you.

[magilacudy]

Same thing happened to my friend, she made copies of a $100 bill to use as a bookmark. The Secret Service came. She ran away to the Philippines. :shock:

It also could've happened that the Secret Service let her off with a warning and that she moved there unrelatedly to do volunteer work 8 years later. But then again who knows?!

[FlipSide]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf.. Anyway like supernothing said, just tell the truth and stick to it..unless they find a big time money factory in your room you prolly get away with a slap on the wrist.

[daddiebigbig]

the Secret Service came to you for that?


yes I am 19 years old just got of high school just started a job and I thought everything was going good for me. but some dumb ass mistake. I wish i could'va changed that day i would stayed inside all day and played games and slept.

[CheapyD]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf.. Anyway like supernothing said, just tell the truth and stick to it..unless they find a big time money factory in your room you prolly get away with a slap on the wrist.

The Secret Service also handle counterfit money investigations.
I agree...the truth is your best and only option.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. ;)

[6669]

the Secret Service came to you for that?


yes I am 19 years old just got of high school just started a job and I thought everything was going good for me. but some dumb ass mistake. I wish i could'va changed that day i would stayed inside all day and played games and slept.

Damn, that sucks. Why would your friend do that to you? Did you give it to your friend as a payment of some kind? If so, then your probably screwed :( . I still say it shouldn't be too bad if you never tried to use them. They can't prove that was your intention unless you actually did it.

[epobirs]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf.. Anyway like supernothing said, just tell the truth and stick to it..unless they find a big time money factory in your room you prolly get away with a slap on the wrist.

The Secret Service is an extension of the Treasury Department. At the time it was created there was virtually nothing in terms of law enforcement at the federal level outside of that department so they got the task of guarding the President. The desing of our government makes it specifically undesirable to have the military do this so the personnel needed to be drawn from a different source.

[uesc]

bummer man!

*destroys scanned $20 dollar bills*

[daddiebigbig]

new avatar I am just going to keep my head up and not fight this just go with the flow. I never tryed to use them we were in my "friends" front yard I live about 5 houses down I told them I would be right back i went made the one sided bills drop them by a tree and waited for someone to see as soon as he picked them up a few minutes later i said damn I had 60 on me to go get a game and he did not say anything then I said take out of your pocket and look at the back we were standing in a group he did we all started laughing and then we went and played b-ball and after the day I forgot it.

[bignick]

Go to Mexico ... NOW!

Ya. I would get the fuck out of dodge. Close out your bank accounts, and bounce.

[int80h]

Watch your cornhole, bud

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf

Without trying to sound like too much of a smart ass.... what the hell do they teach you kids in school these days?

If you're completely incapable of learning anything that doesn't come from a DVD or TV go rent "To Live and Die In LA". You'll learn something.

[Cornfedwb]

They don't play around with this.. period. You may very well do time (although not an excessive amount). However you won't be in Federal "ass-pounding" Prison. You'll do time in a minimum to medium security federal prison... if you have to do time, that's the way to do it. It's like a Club Med you just can't leave.

Although you should definitely kick the crap out of your buddy.

[WhipSmartBanky]

I made 3 20's on the scanner. I scanned one bill and made 3 copies of a 20. I only copied the front side of the bill in color. to trick my friends to think the found 60 dollars. I woke up today to find the secret service knocking on the door . 2 months later asking what when and how I did them. my only intention was to play a trick on one of my friends the fakes disappear after the joke and I never thought about it and passed it out of my mind. well today I found out that one of my "friends" put them in their pocket and tried to pass the one sided bill off at the firework store. and they got in trouble but passed it off like oh I did not know so there were let off of the hook.
then the local gov't came to there house and my "friend" told them I did it on my scanner not that they found them but that I made them on the scanner
now I am faceing charges I have to go to the federal buliding tomorrow and I might be prosecuted all the way from a felony down to a misdeameaner of crimnal mischeif.

what should I do?

I am 19 and live in ohio.

http://www.atari.net/sites/banky/youdumbass.gif

[Zmonkay]

1st kick the shit out of your "friend" you are already in trouble so why not.
2nd just plead no contest when or if you do go to court
3rd face it and go on with your life.
hopefully they will be easy on you.

2nd and 3rd should be "continue beating the crap out of said friend, then dress him up as you and be his best man at his wedding to bubba"

[biggestinuyashafan]

good luck man,i hope you get an easy judge. some judges are real jerks,the others can be okay. i would say to tell the truth,it has worked for me when i had to go to court.

[roland13x]

I certainly hope when you write down your statement you use better grammar. I hear they like illiterate teens in the Federal prison system....REALLY like em.

Dumbass.

[PsyClerk]

I have good news and bad news. The bad news is they will likely throw the book at you. Counterfeiting is pretty serious.

The good news is your story made me laugh.

[Cornfedwb]

By the by.. your biggest problem was copying $20s.. thats pretty much the bill of choice for counterfeiting ($50s and $100s get checked out and are harder to move). If you had done $1s or $5s they'd have been more likely to just let it go and ignore what happened.

First, get a lawyer. Second, get a lawyer. Third, they'll probably plea-bargain you down to a misdemeanor (if they stick with a felony, your life is in trouble.. felonies don't go away), with luck you'll get something like 2 years in prison with a commuted sentence provided you don't do the same sort of error in the next however many years.

And I stand by my earlier comment, if you do time, it won't be terrible time, probably the best way you could do it.

Of course this is assuming you have no record, if not.. well you may as well sell your games now.. we wont be seeing you for a while.

[MeGaWC27]

Tell the truth and kick your friend's ass for being an idiot (your friend).

[LV-426RS]

lol... pretty bleak ending according to most of these people. I couldn't help but laugh about it, but I do wish you the best. I'm sure they have internet in federal prison, when you get there bump this thread and tell us what it's like.

[Grave_Addiction]

It might not be the smartest thing to do, but if I were you, I would have denied it from the beginning. I would have burned the scanner, deleted any scanned material off my PC and said that my friend was a liar.

I would try to reverse it onto him, especially since he told on you. I would have said that he scanned it, and it was his idea.

Hey, he's the one that was caught with the money, so they would probably have believed you instead of him.

[donssword]

His friend did not "do" that to him, he did it to himself.

Tell the truth, plead guilty with extenuating (sp) circumstances (being that you are a stupid kid--no offense), and ask for leniency. Keep your cool--they are smarter, older, and more mature than you are, so don't think you can outsmart the law.

Suck it up and be a man--if you are old enough to pull a stunt like that, you are old enough to live with the results of your actions.

I wish you the best of luck, and I am not a lawyer.

[coolsteel]

Have you even talked to said "friend" since it happened? I totally agree with others, a major ass kicking is in order, sure it won't get you out of trouble but you'll just feel a slight bit better.

Best of luck with whatever happens.

[scsg75]

Hmm, I'm suprised they haven't confiscated your computer by now to gather or look for evidence of counterfieting on it. I wouldn't be too shocked if they did eventually do that. Better lose any questionable porn that may be on there (if any, not saying you have any, but just a friendly warning)

Good luck man. Tell the truth, probably get off with a hefty fine and probation considering the circumstances.

[mousin]

youll be tossing someones salad thats for sure.

[karsh]

Now that totally sucks. Good luck to you, and hopefully you'll get some lenience from the judge.

[goldbean]

GET A GOOD ATTORNEY NOW. If you don't have $$, you can probably get a local law school clinic or pro bono organization to help you (or you might be able to get a public defender). PM me if you need some leads--I might be able to help you find someone in your area.

But do not screw around--start looking to get an attorney ASAP, and don't talk about this situation with anyone until you've talked with your attorney first.

[LV-426RS]

Something to look at to get an idea of your fate...

http://money.howstuffworks.com/counterfeit8.htm

*EDIT* Where's Dave Olse(o?)n when you need him!!!!???

[scuba]

America must be REALLY stupid. They are doing this because you copied 3 twenties, in black and white? and you only did the top and not the bottom side, LMAO!

If you really were trying to do something wouldn't you at least copy the bottom, lol.

I hope everything turns out ok :(

[LV-426RS]

^^^it was color... I should know I'm the friend that turned him in!!!!

[btantra]

Counterfeiting, intentionally or not is wrong, but spending a counterfeit money with intention to fraud (meaning knowing that the money is bogus) is as serious of a crime as counterfeiting itself. So, not only you, but your friend might get in trouble too.

My advice, if you do get into trouble, drag your friend together with you... he's a no good friend anyways, so what do you have to loose?

[jalu6]

i read an article in wired about how the new version of photoshop and illustrator have code built into them so you couldnt scan or edit images of money to a certain size and color.

apparently, you were using an older version of it.

[ElfAngel7]

well, if you have a clear record up to that point and u stick to your story, i really doubt that they;ll waste their time prosecuting you. You aren't the one who tried to spend the money. They have bigger fish to fry then a silly person who tried to play a joke on a friend.

[jalu6]

well, no he didnt try to spend it, but technically did distribute it, which may be seen as worse.

its bad enough if some dumbass makes it and tries to use it, but its totally another if he gives it out to friends to use. then you have the counterfeit money spread around.

im not calling you a dumbass... im just saying that the treasury department may view it that way.

[vrs1650]

Man that sucks, I really feel for you, but damn if that is not the funniest story that I have heard today. Good luck.

[rabbitt]

Where about in Ohio do you live.

[Zenithian Legend]

The Secret Service also handle counterfit money investigations.
I agree...the truth is your best and only option.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. ;)

Ha ha ha, I bet Mrs. CheapyD had something to do with that edit.

Alright, in reality this is no laughing matter, in the past year I've gone through absolute hell for a felonious assault case. They offered a plea of 2 years community service, and some anger management classes, but I turned that down, went to random draw and got a new judge. After that it was back and forth to the courts for the next 3 months and then back again 6 months later, but in the end the case was dismissed. I doubt that will help you much, but I just thought I'd share my story.

Ok, as for you, here's what I'd do:

1. Get a lawyer, a good one if possible.
2. Find out what the potential penalties are for this. Also search for similiar cases and see what the most likely penalties are for someone of your age in your situation.
3. Make sure the judge, lawyer, prosecutor knows you had no intention of using the counterfeits. You need them to understand that no one would be dumb enough (except your "friend") to try and use a fake $20 that was in black and white on one side.
4. Take your friend down. He's the one that did the crime. Get your other friends involved too, they can hopefully back up your story about this being a joke. This scenario could lead to your being an accessory, but it'd be your "friend" who would be really screwed, as this would show that he knew the money was fake and was just a gag.
5. This might help you a bit:
http://dreamworks-lime.dreamworks.com/catchthem/jump2.html
6. Avoid this guy at all costs:
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/8308/tomhanks.jpg

Finally, just be honest about it all. You're probably fucked in one way or another, but how much you suffer depends on a lot of different variables. Being honest and letting the court and everyone else involved know what your initial intentions were, as well as, your "friend's" intentions might keep you out of jail. My guess is you'll probably end up paying a fine and/or doing some community service. Kind of a bitch considering you were just playing a joke, but such is the way of the United States legal system (no offense Mrs. CheapyD).

[guardian_owl]

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You do not wan to fuck with the Secret Service, tell the truth, stick to that story, and hope for the best.

[snotknocker]

Get a lawyer. Tell him the story and let him take it from there. The best offense is a good defense. Don't make the mistake of trying to go this alone. This is a very serious offense that if convicted mandates jail time.

[mousin]

yea. lawyer, truth is all you can tell now, secret service = park in front of your house watch you shower w/ binoculars. :( and others things i shouldnt mention. to bad your not a minor, :P doesntt being 19 rock? but also suck.. irony

[Reality's Fringe]

Instead of jail time, you could just go down in a huge gunfight with the SS and the Police. Holy fuck, imagine how awesome that would be. Yeah, you'd be dead, but I'll be damned if you wouldn't look totally sweet.

[LV-426RS]

Instead of jail time, you could just go down in a huge gunfight with the SS and the Police. Holy shaq-fu, imagine how awesome that would be. Yeah, you'd be dead, but I'll be damned if you wouldn't look totally sweet.

just make sure the webcam is streaming it realtime for all to see.

[daddiebigbig]

Where about in Ohio do you live.


northwest dayton

[Indiana]

The secret service handles counter fit money. I recommend talking to a lawyer. You should be able to plea down to a small fine. You were not trying to pass fake bills.

[Moxio]

Wow that totally blows. I hope this teaches you a lesson.

[bignick]

Wear a CAG shirt to your meeting.

[daddiebigbig]

Wear a CAG shirt to your meeting.

dont have it in my size.

[Storamin]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf.. Anyway like supernothing said, just tell the truth and stick to it..unless they find a big time money factory in your room you prolly get away with a slap on the wrist.
The SS actually started out guarding money convoys. Not until later did they protect the president.

[rabbitt]

daddiebigbig, if you can find Akron, you can live in my basment :D.

[jalu6]

Why would secret service knock on your door? Arnt they suppose to protect the President(and Ex-presidents) and his family .. this should be the FBI's turf.. Anyway like supernothing said, just tell the truth and stick to it..unless they find a big time money factory in your room you prolly get away with a slap on the wrist.
The SS actually started out guarding money convoys. Not until later did they protect the president.

Government Fun Fact: The Secret Service are technically part of the U.S. Treasury Department!

Didn't any of you ever see The Untouchables? Elliot Ness? Kevin Costner before he got lame?

[RedvsBlue]

Not sure if anyone's mentioned it but my only advice is "watch your cornhole bud".

[WhipSmartBanky]

daddiebigbig, if you can find Akron, you can live in my basment :D.

Harboring a fugitive? Heh, what, you WANT your o-ring tore up too?

[rabbitt]

daddiebigbig, if you can find Akron, you can live in my basment :D.

Harboring a fugitive? Heh, what, you WANT your o-ring tore up too?

Hell no! I'd leaving as soon as he would move in :lol:

[No Mercy Video]

Or you can tell them your a terrorist and conterfit money is just phase one of your plans for global domination

Seriously just tell the truth, never stray from it, and learn from your mistake

[MarvinisaLunatic]

You've got to...run away...you've got to...run away..

[suko_32]

Get a lawer is the most popular option

[RAMSTORIA]

tell the truth! you can only get away with lies if youre the president!

[deathcabforcutie]

hey... i've got REALLY good news for you regarding all this!!!

(what, im off the hook?)

nope, i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance... :-)

but on a serious note, tell one of your friends or family members to get online and let us know your punishment if you cant get on... im anxious to hear.. best of luck!

[california1967]

Since they didnt bust your ass right there and drag you to prision, thats a good sign you just might get probation, and another thing that they were only 1 sided it can be seen as a joke. Like they said just tell the truth and you will probobly get off...I mean 1 sided freaking bills....

[crazytalkx]

Run away or self destruct. Although a bloody firefight to the death would be a cool way to go out.............

[Renzokuken]

Plead the Fif.

[Zenithian Legend]

So, I don't know if anyone else has noticed but this guy hasn't posted in a little while now, I wonder if they took him in...

[Moxio]

Lol maybe.

[XboxMaster]

Man, that would really suck ass.

[coolsteel]

I just assumed they confiscated his computer.

[CaseyRyback]

anyone else remember the Beavis and Butt-Head episode where they go to Kinko's and make copies of money to make more money?

That is all I can think about right now when I read this thread

[zewone]

I wonder what happend. At first I thought this was BS but he hasn't posted for awhile.

[KaneRobot]

I know someone who did almost the exact same thing. They took the computer and gave it back after a few weeks. He didn't get in a ton of trouble but was on probation for a while.

[ElwoodCuse]

anyone else remember the Beavis and Butt-Head episode where they go to Kinko's and make copies of money to make more money?

That is all I can think about right now when I read this thread

and Beavis Xeroxes nickels

I hope this is a gimmick post because if not, this is even more retarded than all those return scam (or whatever) stories.

[Acrylic]

Ma. I feel bad for ya. But All I can say is....

PWN'D!!!

[daddiebigbig]

BUMP

[daddiebigbig]

I am okay I think. they took my 300 dollar hp6110 scanner.
they fingerprinted me and mugshoted me at the sercet service office. then he wrote down some info and asked for my id i did notice the form he was filling out was a background check form. after fingerprinting. the agent said I hope to never see you again.

WTF does that mean. I need answers but I do not want to call. *um hi this is the one guy who made some 20's as a joke um are your aressting me or what?.*

thanks for the support.

[zewone]

You think they took your scanner? I say BS again. Why do you need answers? If this were true you would be just happy not to have gone to jail.

[daddiebigbig]

I am not saying I think they took my scanner I said I'm okay I think.

the reason why I am not happy I have not gone to jail is they could still be investgating and charges are pending.

so they could come back to my house in 6 months and take me away when I think everything was going good.

[LinkinPrime]

Ask them:

If you were trying to counterfit, money, why would you copy only one side.

[Quackzilla]

Here is some legal advice for you 20 days ago:

Take the fifth.

If you did not spend those bills yourself, and only made three, it will be IMPOSSIBLE to prove intent.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND THEY CAN NOT TOUCH YOU.

They will tell you they have evidence, they will tell you they can prove intent, BUT THEY CAN'T!

If then sent the secret service to pick you up DO NOT expect to have all of your rights. DO NOT speak with your lawyer in private because the federal government CAN RECORD THE CONVERSATION AND USE IT AGAINST YOU (thank you patriot act for making us safer).

Do not say ANYTHING.

And you better watch what you post here, too.

[Michaellvortega]

Here is some legal advice for you 20 days ago:

Take the fifth.

If you did not spend those bills yourself, and only made three, it will be IMPOSSIBLE to prove intent.

SHUT THE shaq-fu UP AND THEY CAN NOT TOUCH YOU.

They will tell you they have evidence, they will tell you they can prove intent, BUT THEY CAN'T!

If then sent the secret service to pick you up DO NOT expect to have all of your rights. DO NOT speak with your lawyer in private because the federal government CAN RECORD THE CONVERSATION AND USE IT AGAINST YOU (thank you patriot act for making us safer).

Do not say ANYTHING.

Oh and don't forget TRUST NO ONE................

[Trakan]

THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREE!

[Quackzilla]

And don't forget to ask for badges and a warrant.

But remember, they don't have to show either to you.

If they don't have a warrant than you are about to be arrested and held indefinitely as an enemy combatant. You would be surprised at how often that happens.

In that case my best advice to you is run, and hope the bullets don't hit you.

And get different freinds, your current 'freinds' are assholes.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I am okay I think. they took my 300 dollar hp6110 scanner.
they fingerprinted me and mugshoted me at the sercet service office. then he wrote down some info and asked for my id i did notice the form he was filling out was a background check form. after fingerprinting. the agent said I hope to never see you again.

WTF does that mean. I need answers but I do not want to call. *um hi this is the one guy who made some 20's as a joke um are your aressting me or what?.*

thanks for the support.

If they were arresting you they would've done in it. The only benefit to releasing you with intent of a later arrest, would be to see if you have connections or the ability to do it again, which it seems like you don't. If you keep your nose clean and don't do anything stupid again, you should be fine. The only time they'll contact you in the near future is to maybe give back your property they took, if you are very lucky. And Quakzilla advice is pretty lame, pleading the fifth would do nothing at this point (or in the beginning) and only further their suspiscion of you. They seem to have the bills and the ability to link them back to you so pleading the fifth would not help you at all.

[MrBadExample]

Did you make some more copies in case you have to pay a fine?

[Quackzilla]

And Quakzilla advice is pretty lame, pleading the fifth would do nothing at this point (or in the beginning) and only further their suspiscion of you. They seem to have the bills and the ability to link them back to you so pleading the fifth would not help you at all.

They can't prove intent.

Possesion and creation of counterfiet currency is one crime, but without proving intention to distribute and spend said currency they don't have a case.

As long as he does not talk until he testifies to a jury he is fine.

[Cornfedwb]

You know Quackzilla.. you scare me with your advice given based on an extremely poor grasp of the subject at hand. Every time I see you post something like this.. it's just poor advice.

A. They cannot hold him under the laws of the patriot act unless he presents a "clear and present danger" to the national security of the United States or its people. The patriot act does not give the power of the gestapo to the us government.

B. They do have to show badges and/or relavent warrants if so asked. They also cannot arrest you inside your home without a legal arrest warrant. (An old law meant to avoid waking people up in their beds at 2am, i.e. gestapo tactics).

C. Pleading the fifth is only going to make matters worse for him. If you've just made a stupid mistake, making it look like you're hiding something is just going to cause more trouble for you.. not to mention being a dickweed is no way to get leniency.

[Smell]

anyone else remember the Beavis and Butt-Head episode where they go to Kinko's and make copies of money to make more money?

That is all I can think about right now when I read this thread


lmao i love that episode

[RedvsBlue]

they took my 300 dollar hp6110 scanner.


So does this mean we can expect to see a post in the request a deal forum for a new scanner?

[Graystone]

they took my 300 dollar hp6110 scanner.


So does this mean we can expect to see a post in the request a deal forum for a new scanner?

LMAO, that would be funny if they came back to his house and said. we need this one as well you might have used it to make one of the 3 bills. and take that one to or ever time he buys a scanner they come and take it.

[bignick]

Im a little surprised his printer printed out money green. It must be an old one. I know that almost all new printers wont print money green, they print a some other color instead. At my old office, we had this top of the line Ricoh color printer, and the sales amn said it wont print money green, its hard wired into the bios.

[Cracka]

if i were you i'd make more counterfeit money. Spend some of it on johnny cochran, and the rest on a gang to beat up your friend, and then if you have some left go to walmart and buy a cork for your ass incase you go to jail.