CAGcast #99: The Great One

[CheapyD]

Our 4th live show, but our 1st broadcast on NowLive.com (http://www.nowlive.com). CheapyD gives hands (and feet) on impressions of Wii Fit, Chris Grant (Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com)) and bapenguin (Evil Avatar (http://www.evilavatar.com)) call in to discuss GameSpot Gerts-gate, we take your live calls, and so much more!

Win one of 3 PS2 Console+Buzz bundles from UGO and the CAGcast (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162557)
Win Super Mario Galaxy and/or Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162558)
CAGcast Theme Song Contest! Win $100 CASH! (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155483)

Last show's winners:
PGR4: BigD63, lurknomore
COD4: ctgoodman, misbitski

WWE drawing coming soon...


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Past CAGcasts (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cat_cagcast.php)

If you want to hear the completely unedited version (at a lower bitrate), you can get it here (http://audio.nowlive.com:443/stream/miniplayer/100240874-071205-511196909514.mp3).
Chat room log (http://archive.nowlive.com/c39823.aspx)

Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):

Intro: I have a bad case of diarrhea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miSADG9yihM)

CAGcast Nominated for GTR Xbox Community Awards Podcast of the Year - Vote/Win! (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161305)
Join the CAG team on The simExchange Video Game Prediction Market (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162335)

GameSpot Q&A, A Response to "Gerstmanngate" (http://kotaku.com/gaming/gamespot/gamespot-qa-a-response-to-gerstmanngate-330415.phphttp://www.gamespot.com/news/6183666.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0)
Now Who's Being Naive, Kay? (http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/12/05/reflections-on-videogame-publisher-and-employer-contempt-towards-the-enthusiast-press.aspx)
Activision Blizzard Merger (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=176767)

Foreplay - New Releases (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cag-foreplay-podcast-25-mrs-shipwreck-finds-a-way.php)
(http://www.wired.com/gaming/hardware/news/2007/12/get_wii)
Wii Fit Unboxing Video w/CheapyD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYfHAa4V7E)
DS gets downloadable content with official DSVision flash card peripheral (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/194358228/)
How to Score a Wii This Christmas (http://www.wired.com/gaming/hardware/news/2007/12/get_wii)

Square Enix thinks Sony needs to define their console (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/12/05/square-enix-thinks-sony-needs-to-define-their-console/)
Folklore add-on packs coming to the US PSN Store this week (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/12/05/folklore-add-on-packs-coming-to-the-us-psn-store-this-week/)
Incoming Burnout Paradise demo set for release next week
12/13 (http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Destructoid/%7E3/195769961/incoming-burnout-paradise-demo-set-for-release-next-week-57773.phtml)

Fall Dashboard Update Details (http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/GamerscoreBlog/%7E3/193047277/554969.aspx)
Xbox Originals apparently region locked, no Puyo Pop for you
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Destructoid/%7E3/195554060/xbox-originals-apparently-region-locked-no-puyo-pop-for-you-57669.phtml) Xbox 360 DivX/XviD Playback Tested (Verdict: It's Almost Perfect) (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/xbox-360-divx%5Cxvid-test/xbox-360-divxxvid-tested-it-plays-almost-everything-329769.php)
Xbox Video Marketplace in Europe, Canada Dec. 11 (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/195063201/)
Bioshock - Wider Is Better (http://feeds.gawker.com/%7Er/kotaku/full/%7E3/195021133/bioshock-+-wider-is-better-329639.php)
Monster Madness Update (http://www.tech-gaming.com/)

Target / CC / BB Video Game Prices: December 9 - December 15, 2007 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161888)
Up to 50% Off Select Games at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Ffeatur e.html%3Fie%3DUTF8%26plgroup%3D1%26docId%3D1000175 111&tag=cheapassgam08-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)
New Blu-Ray BOGO titles at Amazon (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162273)

Digg the CAGcast (http://www.digg.com/podcasts/CAGcast)
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Outro: Megaforce (Atari 2600) (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=6799)
Outro 2: CheapyD's Black Friday Gaming Super Show of Savings (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160608)



Bonus Pics!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2092647278_3a955a004e_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2092647278/) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2091866489_c087877d34_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2091866489/)

[moojuice]

Out of curiousity, how much different is the edited one? Or is it edited to make things more to the point?

[CheapyD]

It's not much different. I had to do a lof of manual work to synch up the recording of the callers with the direct audio from myself and Wombat. There was some very light trimming as well. I highly recommend listening to the official version...you aren't missing anything and will get much higher quality audio.

[PyroGamer]

Wow! Talk about some prizes!

[moojuice]

Ok, sounds good. Just didn't want to miss out on any randomness.

[auralia]

links not working and 99 isn't in itunes store either :(

[moojuice]

I think its doing the same thing as last weeks. Just keep trying every minute or so, eventually it will work.

[misfit13b]

Hey, one of the COD4 winners has a name awful similar to mine (phonetically, at least). If he fails to accept the prize for any reason, I'll be more than willing to substitute myself in. ;)

[LiK]

the live show was fun. i enjoyed chatting with the CAGs and i liked hearing Cheapy and Wombat before the show started to hear them getting prepared. the chat was crazy tho, make me a mod next time Cheapy and i'll help you boot the spammers. :)

[Tybee]

This live show was infinitely better than the past live attempts, and I'm not just saying that because I was on it. ;)

The extended Gerstmann discussion (with special guests!) was appreciated, although I didn't get to pay too close attention because I was busy trying to call in. One thing that I have not really seen discussed, other than in N'gai Croal's teriffic post on the topic, is that the big gaming sites like IGN and GameSpot should really make an attempt to court more tangentially related advertising (soda, fast food, shoes, stereo equipment, and other products and services gamers use, but that these sites do not directly cover) and try and cut down on advertising so many games. Because it's gotten to a point where a conflict of interests is unavoidable, even when, as Chris said, there's a "strong wall" between advertising and editorial. It's just like investing wisely. You want your money in a broad range of stocks and bonds so if one sector tanks, the others will balance it out. If these publications diversified their ad portfolio, they wouldn't be forced to cater to game publishers as much because they'd have many other sources of ad income.

Will post more comments after I listen to the podcast version.

[BLUEMANRULE]

Wombat,

I loved Eternal Champions on Sega CD. This game was very innovative in that:

1) Fatalities improved on from Mortal Kombat
2) Vendetta Kills - Some enemies killed enemies at the start of the round. Larson, ex-cop, pulls out a shotgun and blows off the head of the Outlaw at the round fight screen. SWEET!
3) Overkills - This game came out slightly before MK and it involved having the background kill the enemy. Kind of like "The Pit" in MK. Every stage had one and you had to play for hours to find each one.
4) Cinekills - If you died on the final boss fight, he would kill each character according to his/her own worst nightmare. The assassin Shadow was assassinated with her own throwing stars. These scenes were fully 3D rendered and very nice.
5) Cast of playable characters was small but each had unique fighting styles.

I'm praying for a remake of the Sega CD version on the 360. You, would love it. By the way, can't find the contest forum at ugo. Please help. Love the show!

[ScottG13]

Definately a fun podcast. The stuff with Chris was especially good. Guest commentators mix up the pacing and add a nice touch. Though I'd have prefered Ron Workman's take on Gerstmanngate.

[genneo]

wtf intro




is that even a real song lol


edit: nvm I found the youtube video hahaha

[H.Cornerstone]

The download link is to cagcast 98 not 99.

[genneo]

The download link is to cagcast 98 not 99.
bro i just dled it, its ep 99

[H.Cornerstone]

Hmm, the direct download link I used said 98 in the title.

[Mex25]

Just finished listening to the cagcast and cheapy I have a suggestion for next week's cagcast. Try a guest co-host next week and see how that goes over. With wombat moving I don't think many people would mind if he misses a cagcast, I know I won't.

[trip1eX]

I actually had some time to listen to the live show and make stupid 6th grader comments. I was laughing between the comments and the show.

I have to say Wombat is Peter Parker. I watched Spidey 3 the other day (1st half good/2nd half fell apart big time) and I was like, “Whose voice is that?"

“It sounds like someone I know??? It's that show. What show? I don't watch alot of TV. Another actor perhaps? A game? No it's frickin' Wombat's voice. Wombat is Peter Parker. :shock:”

[H.Cornerstone]

Cheapy, You never finished Ratchet?

[bapenguin]

Thanks for having me on Cheapy!

[InuFaye]

Wombat.
It's Tricky is also on singstar 80's.

Also its tricky to rock a rhyme thats right on time. its trickayyyyyyyyyyyyy.

/correction.

[Kestastrophe]

I lolled when Cheapy called out Mangod Shane and his hype of the DualShock 3 rumble. At least you always know that Cheapy calls it likes he sees it.

[Justden]

I lolled when Cheapy called out Mangod Shane and his hype of the DualShock 3 rumble. At least you always know that Cheapy calls it likes he sees it.

Wasn't Shane's opinion of DualShock 3 after usng it during a Metal Gear demo? Maybe it has more functionality available if the game designer builds it into their game. That or Shane's fibbing again.

[Trenchalicious]

I can't get the file to open to be split to put on cd or to be played period :(

[Kestastrophe]

Wasn't Shane's opinion of DualShock 3 after usng it during a Metal Gear demo? Maybe it has more functionality available if the game designer builds it into their game. That or Shane's fibbing again.

Shane has a penchant for blowing everything Sony out of proportion.

[LiK]

Shane did try to explain that it felt like that for MGS4 which could be for that game only. but other editors on 1up didn't feel it so the Mangod could be totally hallucinating.

[InuFaye]

Mangod does not hallucinate.
I have a good picture for this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/Kevtones/motivator8294845.jpg

[thorbahn3]

The Jeff fired story ran way too long. I wish you would of looked at the chat room, it had a lot "wrap it up" and "ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

Also where is the David Shepherd pic?

[radjago]

Any chance of getting a log of the chat room?

[LiK]

Mangod does not hallucinate.
I have a good picture for this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/Kevtones/motivator8294845.jpg

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[CheapyD]

Any chance of getting a log of the chat room?
http://archive.nowlive.com/c39823.aspx

[Alphant]

I won't miss the next one for sure.

[misbitski]

Hey, one of the COD4 winners has a name awful similar to mine (phonetically, at least). If he fails to accept the prize for any reason, I'll be more than willing to substitute myself in. ;)

No shot. Pretenders to the throne be damned...the real MISBITSKI is here! :)

So how do I claim my price anyway? I never win anything. lol

[CheapyD]

Also where is the David Shepherd pic? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2092647278_3a955a004e_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2092647278/) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2091866489_c087877d34_m.jpg http://profile.ak.facebook.com/profile5/388/31/n628345165_4009.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2091866489/)

[H.Cornerstone]

Doesn't really look like you. Looks like a bald version of the guy who Played Lu Khang in Mortal Kombat.

[sying]

Thanks for having me on Cheapy!

I miss Phil and Amanda... le sigh

[SonOfAtari]

I want to hear Cheapy actually say the ad for the Navy while recording the podcast, instead of inserting it after its recorded.

[Milkyman]

It was a great moment when Chris Grant thought Hilary Goldstein was a girl.

[nesfan8222]

i loved wombats cheesy radio dj voice. I think livenow is better since i can listen to the cagcast live at work. I am on the west coast so i can listen to the first hour before i have to get out of work. Stickcam is blocked by my companies web security. The talk with chris grant went on for too long. Part of me felt if i wanted to listen to chris i would listen to the joystiq podcast but i guess his interactions with cheapy and wombat were somewhat entertaining. Its nice to see so many contests. The Cagcast is moving further up to the far east side. Are we going to hear from your parents again cheapy if they are still in town for episode 100? Cheapydad/cheapygrandpa wii fit review? Will wombats mom win the theme song contest so she can be on the 100th show? Perhaps we can hear from both mrs cheapy and wombat for this special episode or even tai and zelda. Maybe a two part episode half live and half recorded. Im sure you going to take the holiday week off so why not make it a huge episode. Good luck with the move wombat and the mrs wombat

[aplusjimages]

Wombat, don't throw your stuff out. Instead donate it. It's wasteful to throw it out when someone else may enjoy it.

[LiK]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2092647278_3a955a004e_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2092647278/) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2091866489_c087877d34_m.jpg http://profile.ak.facebook.com/profile5/388/31/n628345165_4009.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2091866489/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheapyd/2091866489/)

looks close except for the nose. so which girl is your character gonna bed? heh

http://archive.nowlive.com/c39823.aspx

holy crap, i can read everything i wrote. but wait, i noticed a few people weren't logged so it looks like i was replying to nothing...amusing

[shieryda]

Best intro. song yet!:applause:

And Cheapy's ME character does look like him!

[shieryda]

wtf intro




is that even a real song lol


edit: nvm I found the youtube video hahaha

Link?

[misfit13b]

No shot. Pretenders to the throne be damned...the real MISBITSKI is here! :)


D'oh! ;)

(Congratulations, BTW.)

[shieryda]

I still don't understand what this episode has to do with Wayne Gretzky.

[misfit13b]

I still don't understand what this episode has to do with Wayne Gretzky.

You mean besides the number?

[Lyon21]

great podcast

[jollydwarf]

Vin Cheapy??

The callers were not obnoxious or annoying on the whole, just fairly uninteresting. No, you can't win, folks.

I also thought the audio quality for most of the non-'special guest' callers was crap.

It's weird...the live shows should have more 'juice', more 'oomph', but it seems that the opposite usually happens.

6.0.

(Gets permabanned)

[CheapyD]

jollydwarf, what do you think of this idea (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162826)?

[mriswyth]

Best Live show yet. Unfortunately, it still doesn't live up to the "standard" shows. I finally realized that this is why radio shows have multiple people screening calls. It seems most calls equal "radio death." It does highlight how good CheapyD and Wombat really are, though.

It depresses me a little bit when I hear comments like those made about the R4 on this show. I think deep down I know that the R4 is a problem, but I also see it as an incredibly useful tool. As someone who has written code to run on the DS, I love the R4. I think tools like the R4 are great for children who are interested in programming. Writing software that runs on a computer is one thing, creating a game that runs on real gaming hardware is a completly different level. I love having access to a tool like this as an adult, but having it as a child would have been even cooler.

I also ended up feeling bad for Wombat at the end of this show. I'm chalking it up to CheapyD's fatigue, but Wombat brought a great topic (article) for discussion and he was quickly shut down. Cheapy may have been correct for most people that the first review is all that is important. I would say that for the general public reviews don't matter at all. I do believe that there is also a segment out there that WOULD appreciate second looks, especially after such major changes. I think this community would especially appreciate this. Much of my game purchases are made months or years after a game's release. It would be nice to know if there are games that have become worth purchasing because of updates. I also think Artificial Studios should be commended for doing something like this. How many games have you played that were seriously broken, but never got fixed because the developer had moved on. I'm guessing this game wasn't a bit hit, but the developer is still spending resouces to make things right for their customer.

[thorbahn3]

jollydwarf, what do you think of this idea (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162826)?

PWned! Also Jolly, you should call in.

[misbitski]

D'oh! ;)

(Congratulations, BTW.)


Heh. Don't congratulate yet...I still haven't been able to claim it.

I tried PMing Cheapy. Am I supposed to contact someone else?

[lurknomore]

Heh. Don't congratulate yet...I still haven't been able to claim it.

I tried PMing Cheapy. Am I supposed to contact someone else?

I'm in the same boat misbitski. Usually CheapyD says who to contact, whether it be his mom, himself, or Wombat, but because of the contest overload/fatigue he didn't this time around. Have no fear though, CheapyD's word is good and it'll get done. I, too, sent a PM...so just sit tight.

[pete5883]

Cheapy, Cheapy. Gerst-, not Gerts-mann. [/picky]

[joserjerr]

Please try to lay low on the UGO plugs from the show. That's right I'm talking to you Wombat! It's hard for me to determine whether they are paying Wombat to do work on their blog or their money is just advertising dollars on CAG and Wombat is the voice. Shameless plugging ruins a show IMO and I've cut out podcasts from my listening rotation because of it.

Mentioning UGO because of a contest for a prize is one thing but just saying "Hey I posted that story on UGO! too" just seems like shameless self-promotion.

[mahanj]

Please try to lay low on the UGO plugs from the show. That's right I'm talking to you Wombat! It's hard for me to determine whether they are paying Wombat to do work on their blog or their money is just advertising dollars on CAG and Wombat is the voice. Shameless plugging ruins a show IMO and I've cut out podcasts from my listening rotation because of it.

Mentioning UGO because of a contest for a prize is one thing but just saying "Hey I posted that story on UGO! too" just seems like shameless self-promotion.
It seemed like a natural response more than anything.
"Yeah, I knew about that, I even posted about it."

Anyways, I just started listening to cagcasts last week. Good shows!
Cheapy seemed really nervous on taking calls though, did something happen the last time they went live?

That Mass Effect character likeness is awesome. I wish I could do mine.

[XTommyDonX]

Great live show, better than previous ones. The diarreah opening was my favorite of all 99 CAGCasts. Great responses to CAGBag questions and live calls. Excellent entertainment by BOTH Cheapy AND Wombat as expected. Thanks guys.

[Enuts09]

Very nice Live show. Yea, this was the best Live Show out of the 4 as stated by others. Looking forward to the Future Live Shows and the regular Cagcasts as well.

Keep up the good work Cheapy and Wombat.

[misbitski]

I'm in the same boat misbitski. Usually CheapyD says who to contact, whether it be his mom, himself, or Wombat, but because of the contest overload/fatigue he didn't this time around. Have no fear though, CheapyD's word is good and it'll get done. I, too, sent a PM...so just sit tight.

Ah, cool. Still haven't heard anything, so I was worried I missed something.

[foulsmellingdischarge]

I thought the guys from Joystiq and Evil Avatar had interesting things to say, but don't generally care for the live listener questions. I prefer just Cheapy & Wombat, with occasional guests.

Not to be a big stick-in-the-mud or anything :D

[Edog Lost]

Hey Cheapy, Do you have a link to that article you advised on.. wrote.. what ever. On how to get a wii?

[CheapyD]

Yup, links can usually be found in the first post in the episode thread. Just hit the spoiler button:
http://www.wired.com/gaming/hardware/news/2007/12/get_wii

[Edog Lost]

Thanks man.