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The Crotch

12-07-2007, 09:55 PM

If you wish to ask for game recommendations, use this thread! Yes, people do read and make recommendations.

But before you do that, I'm-a given you my recommendations. Why? Because I know better than everyone. Duh. And besides, an easy-to-access "Okay, these are the top... bunch-of-games that you should pick up" list is... well, kinda handy. There used to be a big, alphabetized list of pretty much every semi-noteworthy Wii game with a gamerankings score and a brief description, but I think it was just too big to be useful.

So, in order from least important to most, I give you a brief guide to "Shit you have to buy or at least rent." Or at least, "Shit you have to buy/rent that I've actually played. So sorry, Excite Truck fans. Send me the game and I'll add it in somewhere."

Warioware: Smooth Moves - 81.9% - Microgames, and lots of 'em. Very fun while it lasts, but it only lasts about... 3 hours. But hey, there's hot-potato multiplayer (which you have to unlock - guess that's why the single player's so short). And disco cats. Most of the microgames are remote only, but a few of the more complicated ones use the nunchuk. Depending on how much you like your multiplayer microgames, consider renting this one.

de Blob - 81.4% - A very neat giant-ball-graffiti-simulator. However, it's also a fairly short one, so unless four-player multiplayer is a big draw, consider just renting.

Blast Works - 80% - Very cool SHMUP with great level, enemy, and ship editors. Said levels/enemies/ships can be uploaded to blastworksdepot.com for all to enjoy, too. 1-4 players.

Trauma Center: New Blood - 77.3% - If you've played a Trauma Center before, you know what you're getting here. If you haven't? It's a science-fiction-y surgery game, though a lot of people complain that the science-fiction stuff tends to get in the way of the surgery. And in the way of that is the stylus/remote-throwing difficulty. But hey, there's co-op, which is pretty damn cool if you ask me.

Ghost Squad - 72.7% - Rail shooter based on old SEGA arcade game. Very short, but a lot of replayability. A LOT. Can be played by four people. Or two people each holding two remotes, if that's how you roll. That's how I roll. Bitch.

Super Paper Mario - 85.3% - This game is often described as a platformer with RPG elements. While this is mostly true, you should not come in expecting Mario 3 with an EXP system. The platforming is all extremely basic, and once you get Bowser and find an enemy spawn point, you can basically just leave the game on all night for infinite EXP. Also, it takes a while to get going. But you know what? It still has the humour and charm you'd come to expect from a Paper Mario. Also, one of the most God damn terrifying bosses in the history of videogames. Did they get fucking John Carpenter to design that thing? God damn! Also, I'm officially labeling this game the start of the "If you own a Wii you should absolutely own this game" point.

Scarface: The World is Yours - 71.6% and Godfather, The: Blackhand Edition - 77.4% - They're basically the same thing. Which is appropriate, seeing as how they're GTA clones. I'd say Scarface plays slightly better, but the constant use of "shaq-fu's" can just get downright annoying. Get either or both.

Mario Kart Wii - 82% - I'll be honest - I prefer Double Dash. It looks better, and I can do three-man free-for-alls in multiplayer. But, Mario Kart Wii finally has bots in battle mode - and team battle mode, at that. Also, online that doesn't completely suck. Other than that, it's your standard Mario Kart. Not the greatest track design I guess, but you'll live.

Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure - 85.7% - Fantastic point-and-click adventure/puzzle game. Looks very cutesy, but I can't imagine many little kids getting into it due to the difficulty of some of the puzzles. There is extremely limited co-op. It makes quite heavy use of movement-based puzzles, but contrary to what a certain Mr. Croshaw might say, 97% of them work quite well. The other 3% will haunt you until the end of days, yes (I'm looking at you, ice boss), but those 97% are still quite nice. Some people complain about frequent and cheap deaths, but with the exception of a very few cases, any time you die it's your fault for not fucking looking around.

Resident Evil 4 - 91.2% - Awesome (and relatively cheap), even if you've played through it on the GC/PS2/PC. The graphics of the GC version, the extras of the PS2 version, and a new and extremely improved control scheme. No multiplayer.

Okami - 90% and Legend of Zelda, The: Twilight Princess - 94% - The two games are often compared to each-other, and for good reason. Twilight Princess gets off to a slow start and drew a lot of minor quibbles from me, but I still say they're about equal.

Wii Play - 61% - More minigames. Who cares how good it is? It comes with a free remote! Also, "Tanks!" is awesome. Drfunk85 says, "Every new Wii owner should get this game assuming they are planning on having at least two remotes. A remote + Game for $50 means the game essentially costs $10. Like both Wii Sports and Link's Crossbow training, it isn't a really deep game, but is still fun. It is a good way to get a hang of the many different ways the Wii Remote can be used. Tanks is probably the best mini game which is one or two player where you control a little toy tank and have to drive around and shoot other various types of tanks. The levels start out easy but get progressively harder. Pool, air hockey, and some other quirky games are included." Two-player multiplayer only.

Super Mario Galaxy - 97.4% - Yeah, that's right - it's not even in the top three. Even so, it's an absolutely amazing game. Ray-surfing might give some people trouble (try holding the remote with both hands and close to your body), it's actually a pretty bad example of "waggle" at times, Bowser's a fucking pushover, and yeah, the camera occasionally confused me, but... fuck all that shit. It's Super Mario fucking Galaxy. Just buy the god damned game already. Shit's fucking platforming excellence.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl - 94.7% - Also not in the top three. Too slow and defensive for many pros, too similar-feeling to Melee for many of the more casual fans, but fuck, still a helluva game. The level editor isn't particularly complex, but you can get some good shit out of it sometimes. The single-player mode is way bigger than the last go around, and while it got mixed reviews here, I thought it was fucking excellent. There is online, but it's actually pretty shitty.

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 80% - This is weird. I'm actually gonna recommend that you consider skipping this one. The reason for that is that this game is... it's really only enjoyable for people like me. I don't mean that as an elitist thing, though the ability to kick fucking ass at a comically difficult strategy role playing game is important. I mean you have to like reading un-voiced text between two character portraits over a static backdrop. I mean you have to be okay with restarting an hour-long battle because you've fought yourself into a position where one of your characters can't survive. You have to be willing to make a burnt offering to the Random Number Generator Goddess from time to time. I have assorted quibbles with this game - specifically, too many cool-but-useless characters and a weak ending - but it's still a fantastic entry in the series. Oh, and you should play the GameCube's Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance first. The story will be far more enjoyable, and you'll get your ass kicked 70% less.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - 90% - The end of the Prime trilogy. Fucking awesome use of the pointer - really, it's the standard to which I compare any shooter on the Wii - and nunchuk waggle. Don't come in expecting a shooter - with the exception of the beginning and the holy-shit-this-is-awesome-please-don't-let-it-end end, the emphasis is on exploration and puzzle solving. Puzzle solving with a gun and bombs. This is my second favourite game on the Wii. No multiplayer, but having to trade stuff with people online in order to unlock a lot of artwork/doodads is annoying.

No More Heroes - 84.7% - A bloody and bizarre beat-em-up from the makers of the controversial Killer7. This is a lot more... accessible... than the GC/PS2 rail shooter, though the sparse overworld (which I didn't mind) and cash-grinding (which I actually enjoyed for the most part) might turn some off. Combat is handled via the A and B buttons, with motion reserved for special attacks, wrestling moves, and way-too-satisfying finishing attacks. A serious contender for my favourite game ever, and so far, my favourite on the Wii.

Coming soon to this thread: "Also consider these..." a list of C- (Umbrella Chronicles) and lower B-list (Wario) games for rental consideration.

Big Fo

12-08-2007, 05:40 PM

I think MLB Power Pros (85.4%) should be on the list, it's the best console baseball game to come out in the past few years.

mega_n00bzer

12-08-2007, 05:56 PM

nice one crotch! I hate any thread that starts with ''recommend me...''

blueshinra

12-09-2007, 02:21 PM

Good idea!

Also, a note about MySims: you can't use Miis. If you're looking for an opinion on the game, here's mine: Cute graphics and characters, and a great construction system, but making buildings and furniture is pretty much all you do. An okay game if you like Animal Crossing or Harvest Moon, but not as deep or engrossing as either of them.

mega_n00bzer

12-09-2007, 02:23 PM

nice use of fuck. so much shaq fu

MarioColbert

12-09-2007, 02:53 PM

What about:
SCARFACE: THE WORLD IS YOURS (MetaCritic:72/100)
It's kind of like Godfather, only not.

The Crotch

12-09-2007, 07:30 PM

Thanks, MC and Shin.

Gourd

12-22-2007, 08:04 AM

Nice!

... Hopefully someone will keep this updated. Otherwise, six months from now, posters will have /good reason/ to ask for game recommendations, yes?

Squashua

12-22-2007, 03:21 PM

I find it easiest to Go to Metacritic and Sort Wii Games by Score (http://www.metacritic.com/games/wii/scores/).

bmulligan

12-22-2007, 09:47 PM

What, no Farcry: Vengeance ?

I thought this game was much better than the 38% on Metacritic. It's better than Red Steel, at least.

RelentlessRolento

12-22-2007, 10:13 PM

I like this. keep it going.

The Crotch

12-28-2007, 03:37 AM

God damn computer problems.

MetaCritic is nice and all, but it has one major problem: a lot of people on this site don't go there.

No FarCry, but I'll put Nights (or NiGHtS or NigHTS or whatever the fuck it is) up some time when my situation is less fucked up.

Ice2Dragon

12-28-2007, 03:56 AM

My ass fire emblem is 80 percent.

Clocked in 20 hours and still havent beaten it :(

Game is freaking amazing -_-V

Manhunt 2 deserves 0 percent. Editied pos. Worthless buy -_-V

The Crotch

12-28-2007, 03:01 PM

Hey, I'm with you on Fire Emblem. The reviews on that game furthered my theory that 95% of people that aren't me suck at videogames. I put in about 60 hours before beating it, restarts included.

Ice2Dragon

12-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Hey, I'm with you on Fire Emblem. The reviews on that game furthered my theory that 95% of people that aren't me suck at videogames. I put in about 60 hours before beating it, restarts included.

The difficulty between normal and easy is insane. I cant wait til maniac mode.. but holy god.. its the most challenging RPG ive played in a very long time..

For that to get the same score as other mediocore games.. is just a tragedy..

The Crotch

12-28-2007, 03:33 PM

My opposition to numerical rankings for games is well known, so I'm not gonna get into whether or not it deserved the arbitrary number it received. I watched my brother waltz through the first chapter of the game on Easy (Japan's Normal) the other day - a chapter that I came within a couple hitpoints of having to restart when I played through on Normal.

pittpizza

12-28-2007, 03:37 PM

Nice thread crotch.

My $.02 is that the games (just the ones I own) are ranked in the following order:

1. Galaxy
2. Zelda
3. Corruption
4. RE4
5. COD3 (I really really liked the shooting controls in this game and beat it thrice).
6. Super paper Mario
7. Ghost Squad, a really fun game for casuals
8. Wii Play (good w/ remote)
9. Red Steel.

rjung

12-28-2007, 07:53 PM

I'll toss out a vote for Tomb Raider Anniversary. A solid port of the PS2 version, with some neat Wii-only secrets and features tossed into the mix. The pointer-based shooting makes it a little harder than the other versions, but it's nothing that breaks the game.

--R.J.

Ice2Dragon

12-28-2007, 08:09 PM

Ranking systems puzzle me..

madden 08 gets 78 percent.. and was terrible..

FE gets 80 percent..

What would I know ^_^

Damnit I want batallion wars.

01-04-2008, 01:22 PM

Here's a bump for the dude who sold me Pikmin 2.

I think I'm getting a Wii tomorrow, so this thread will come in handy.

BTW, you should add Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. I haven't played it, but I contribute the following review: "No bongo support FTL."

badboysean

01-04-2008, 01:49 PM

So im playing super mario galaxy now and plan on getting zelda, super paper mario and metroid when im finished.

I have been browsing reviews and opinions of the Wii library and it really seems as if 99% of it is shovelware crap.

Basically I just wanna know what else is good out there for the Wii. Im not into the anime games or gimmick games that may hold your interest for 5 minutes.

Just looking for help weeding through the junk.

Thanks in advance and this isnt a bash but an honest question.

Also, what do Wii owners have to look forward too?

texasnightowl

01-04-2008, 01:56 PM

RE4 Wii Edition...my favorite thus far.
Excite Truck was nice too for a racing game.

The Crotch

01-04-2008, 02:04 PM

Fucking fuck fuck fuck.

...

Just click on the link in my signature, alright? Alright.

The Crotch

01-04-2008, 02:09 PM

Hah. Thanks, man. Hope you enjoyed Pikmin 2. I should really ask someone to sticky this, but I'm timid. Glad it's helped at least one person.

The 7th Number

01-04-2008, 02:22 PM

RE:4, Zack and wiki

karmapolice

01-04-2008, 02:26 PM

Does there have to be a Wii game thread everyday? Youd think people would have already seen atleast one of them.

Try using the search.

magiic

01-04-2008, 02:26 PM

I really have enjoyed Ghost Squad so far, Mario Strikers is a lot fun. The trauma centre games are enjoyable too

lord_ebonstone

01-04-2008, 02:30 PM

The only games worth owning at this point are Mario Galaxy and Zelda. Anything else is worth a rental at most.

Ice2Dragon

01-04-2008, 02:31 PM

Um

FIRE EMBLEM

20 hours plus and still not done.. not even close @_@

EXStrike

01-04-2008, 02:35 PM

Fucking fuck fuck fuck.

...

Just click on the link in my signature, alright? Alright.

For good measure:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819

Seriously dude, you should get it stickied.

Dezuria

01-04-2008, 02:37 PM

The only good games for the Wii are the ones you already know about. RE4, Zack and Wiki, Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem.. The ratio of crap games/good games is sadly favoring the crap. I use my Wii for GC games mostly.

dmaul1114

01-04-2008, 02:48 PM

The only games worth owning at this point are Mario Galaxy and Zelda. Anything else is worth a rental at most.

I'd add Metroid Prime 3 to that for sure! And RE4 if you haven't played it on another system.

catapult37

01-04-2008, 03:25 PM

Yep, that's about it. You can count 'em on one hand.

After that, it's up to you to decide where to go. I got a 360 to feed my FPS cravings and have been thoroughly happy (also with the online support).

However, if you don't have a problem treading water in the blue ocean, you can get lots of fun out of some of the mini games. Raving Rabbids is totally awesome, and even Monkey Ball is fun (though not nearly as good as its GC predecessor). Warioware is also entertaining for a while, and there's Guitar Hero I guess.

I 100% agree on Zack&Wiki btw. It's a lot of fun.

dmaul1114

01-04-2008, 03:44 PM

StinkyCheese

01-04-2008, 03:48 PM

glad this thread is finally stickied. nice job Crotch, keep it updated.

The Crotch

01-04-2008, 03:50 PM

Happy happy joy joy! Now we see whether or not this does anything about these threads.

StinkyCheese

01-04-2008, 03:57 PM

Happy happy joy joy! Now we see whether or not this does anything about these threads.

sorry to dissapoint you, but I think we'll still see them. That being said, this thread will really help a lot of people, especially since a lot of people got a wii for xmas, and need advice on what games to get. If you need any help, just ask. somebody else

Ice2Dragon

01-04-2008, 04:03 PM

Happy happy joy joy! Now we see whether or not this does anything about these threads.

If only you knew how tempting it is for me to make anew account everyday and post "WHAT WII GAMES ARE GOOD" threads once a day...

Sigh.. college starts in 3 days...

The Crotch

01-04-2008, 04:14 PM

Come to think of it, my summers are booked up solid from here 'til the Wii 2 comes out at the very least. Unless you can get an internet connection to a helicopter-access-only clearcut, someone else will have to handle this for the summer. Then again, knowing how many games come out in the summer, it could probably just be left on its own...

Ice2Dragon

01-05-2008, 06:53 AM

How did Marvel UA get anything about 50 percent on the WII? The game is garbage, as a launch title no less.. the controls were shitty.. the camera was god awful.. and after ten minutes of playing your arm got tired cuz of all the motions you had to do..

Flawed version gets 75+ -_-V GAHHHH!!!!

The Crotch

01-05-2008, 02:02 PM

dmaul1114

01-05-2008, 02:49 PM

Eh. Save for a few games - specifically, those that I know fuck all about - review scores don't really matter. They're totally arbitrary numbers that you would need a fucking Rosetta Stone to decipher. Lots of reviewers themselves say "Don't go by the numbers - just read what we wrote, okay?" Not exactly sure why they still have numbers if they insist that they matter so little, or what you do when their words suck too, as is often the case.

That's true for individual reviews, but aggergate scores are more useful. If a game is getting 80 or 90% or above average across 20+ reviews, you can be pretty confident you'll like it if you are a fan of that type of games.

Still really only useful for me for games I'm on the fence about, or know nothign about and check reviews after hearing it hyped on the boards or seeing a trailer etc.

But they are useful to me and I like that this thread is based around the average review scores.

The Crotch

01-05-2008, 03:10 PM

While it's true-er that combined review scores are better than individual scores, there's still the problem that they're totally arbitrary. They're good for separating crap from not crap, but I don't trust them beyond that. Kinda funny that I would base a thread around them, but whatever.

dmaul1114

01-05-2008, 03:27 PM

Yeah, I use them to seperate "crap I shouldn't bother checking out" from "games I should check out."

They're of course not the end all of whether a game is good or not, or whether I'll enjoy it.

But they do help me decide what to check out with my limited gaming time and budget, and help me avoid wasting time or money on games I don't end up liking. While not the end all, they're aren't many games, in genres I like anyway, that score 90% or above that I don't end up loving.

rjung

01-06-2008, 05:04 AM

Dunno about the rest of you guys, but I'm at a point where I have to take "professional" Wii reviews with a bag of salt. Some folks will pan a game because they don't like motion controls (Wii Sports), some folks will pan a game for bogus reasons (I had no problems with Tomb Raider despite some reviews saying the game was "broken"), and a lot of folks will harshly ding casual games just because they're -- surprise! -- not oriented towards the hardcore. I'm almost reduced to reading reviews to get the general gist of a game, but rely more on word-of-mouth recommendations from folks instead.

As it is now, I've got nearly a dozen non-VC games for my Wii, and would recommend (almost) all of them as quality titles.

--R.J.

blueshinra

01-06-2008, 11:51 AM

rjung: I kind of have to agree there, for the most part. The most bogus reviews I've seen are the ones where they compare a Wii game's graphics and say they aren't as good as those on the 360 or PS3. Of course they aren't going to be as good, but said reviewers don't even think to take the hardware's capabilities into consideration.

dmaul1114

01-06-2008, 02:35 PM

They're are some crappy Wii reviews out there. But I tend to agree with them more often than not. Esepcially the game rankings averages. Mario, Metroid and Zelda are all very high, and Super Paper Mario is decently reviewed. And those are the 4 games I've found worth buying so far (RE4 I bought the GC version before Wii port was announced).

But then again I don't dig casual games, mini games, or party games which is what tends to get hammered in reviews.

But I still take all individual reviews with a grain of salt, and again only even use the average sites when on the fence or it's a game I know nothing about.

Koggit

01-06-2008, 02:57 PM

Reviews should just be out of four whole stars. Maybe with half-stars, if a reviewer wants to be a tool. There is absolutely no conceivable way that an objective human being can say "No, this game isn't an 8.6, it's definitely an 8.7"... even saying it's a 7.0 instead of a 6.0 is a tough call to make, if 5 is average and 10 is perfect.

If it's awful, 1 star. If it's bad, 2 stars. If it's good, 3 stars. If it's amazing, 4 stars. The end.

I wish I ruled the world...

dmaul1114

01-06-2008, 03:22 PM

I can kind of get the point of having a 10.0 scale.

Take this past year, so far my favorite of 2007 list goes, in order:

Bioshock
Mario Galaxy
Call of Duty 4
Halo 3
Metroid Prime 3

On your star system, they'd all be 4 stars, but I can clearly rank them in that order.

Buy using a more detailed scale, I could give them scores which reflect my ranking of their quality. i.e. give Bioshock a 9.5, Mario Galaxy a 9.3, Call of Duty a 9.1, etc. etc.

The numbers are kind of arbitrary, but at least reflect the ranking.

The Crotch

01-06-2008, 04:23 PM

Going to a four-star system would just make things worse. As arbitrary as the difference between 9.2 and 9.8 is, it's a hell of a lot better than the difference between 3/4 and 3.5/4. Besides that, we like our numbers easy to fractionalize, and 0.875 would have a lot of nerds pulling out their calculators.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: no numbers, no stars, no elementary-school-style grades (Does A+ equal 10/10, or 9.5/10?). If you need to absolutely sum something up, just give me a nice, short blurb.

"Only worth it for fans of the genre."

There. Was that so fucking hard?

"A definite buy for everyone."

Look! No more "Zelda only got an 8.6?" Or an 8.4. I can't actually remember what GS gave it. Now I admit, this uses up slightly more ink on a page, but unless there are any octopus-huggers in the room here, I don't think anyone will mind.

Ice2Dragon

01-06-2008, 05:01 PM

Koggit

01-06-2008, 05:27 PM

As arbitrary as the difference between 9.2 and 9.8 is, it's a hell of a lot better than the difference between 3/4 and 3.5/4.

I usually agree with you, but not there. I think the comparison is a bit off.

First, I think a game that gets a 9.2 is likely to be either 4 stars on a whole-star system or 3 and a half on a half-star system. 9.8 is definitely a four-star game.

I think it's easier to say that four star (9.8) game is amazing and the three and a half star (9.2) is great. There's no need at all to quantify it as a numeral, leave it symbolic. It's not 87.5%, it's half a star shy of amazing.

It has worked great for movies, music, hotels, food, etc... there's no reason it wouldn't work great for games.

The Crotch

01-06-2008, 06:44 PM

I usually agree with you, but not there. I think the comparison is a bit off.I'm sure the irony of that statement tastes delicious.

First, I thinkWe're getting into dangerous territory there already. That's how arbitrary scales and numbers start.
a game that gets a 9.2 is likely to be either 4 stars on a whole-star system or 3 and a half on a half-star system. 9.8 is definitely a four-star game.The miracle of rounding agrees with you, but I must ask: what advantage is there to having less clarity? What advantage is there to saying that something is "About three out of four" versus saying "7.6 out of ten"?

I think it's easier to say that four star (9.8) game is amazing and the three and a half star (9.2) is great. There's no need at all to quantify it as a numeral, leave it symbolic. It's not 87.5%, it's half a star shy of amazing.Ahem.
I think mathematically...
A-hem.

It has worked great for movies, music, hotels, food, etc... there's no reason it wouldn't work great for games.The quality of a hotel is a lot easier to quantify and assign a number to than a game, movie, or piece of music. You never have to worry about how many points on a star you should deduct because "the Best Western in Saskatoon this year was pretty much identical to what it was in 2007 - talk about a lazy, rushed sequel!"

Koggit

01-06-2008, 09:19 PM

The miracle of rounding agrees with you, but I must ask: what advantage is there to having less clarity? What advantage is there to saying that something is "About three out of four" versus saying "7.6 out of ten"?

Clarity? It's faux precision. It's why we have standards for significant digits. 7.63439 is not more accurate than 7.6 if the observer (reviewer) is unsure of the reading past tenths. If we need more clarity, why stop at a 100-point scale? Why not have a 1,000-point scale and rate Super Mario Galaxy 9.23? Afterall, it's certainly a higher quality game than just 9.2. But it's not quite a 9.3.

The advantage to less of this so-perceived "clarity" is that there would be less emphasis on score and more emphasis on the actual review. The final rating would be looked at only as a rough guide of quality, as is the case with other forms of critiquing and as it should be with video games.

The quality of a hotel is a lot easier to quantify and assign a number to than a game, movie, or piece of music. You never have to worry about how many points on a star you should deduct because "the Best Western in Saskatoon this year was pretty much identical to what it was in 2007 - talk about a lazy, rushed sequel!"

While true, that doesn't detract from the worth of my statement.

The Crotch

01-06-2008, 09:41 PM

Clarity? It's faux precision. It's why we have standards for significant digits. 7.63439 is not more accurate than 7.6 if the observer (reviewer) is unsure of the reading past tenths. If we need more clarity, why stop at a 100-point scale? Why not have a 1,000-point scale and rate Super Mario Galaxy 9.23? Afterall, it's certainly a higher quality game than just 9.2. But it's not quite a 9.3.

The advantage to less of this so-perceived "clarity" is that there would be less emphasis on score and more emphasis on the actual review. The final rating would be looked at only as a rough guide of quality, as is the case with other forms of critiquing and as it should be with video games.Then why not go all the way? If you don't want to deal with numbers out of ten million or letters from A+++ to F- or what "ten anal rapists out of fifty two anal rapists" means, then why bother with stars? If four stars means "This is a fantastic game!", why not just have the final rating say: "This is fantastic game!"?

While true, that doesn't detract from the worth of my statement.I think that was one of those agree to disagree bits, actually, but whatever. Except for the hotels - they just plain don't fit.

Way to work sig figs into a post, by the way.

daminion

01-07-2008, 11:41 AM

Good post, couple of comments and 1 correction

Correction:

Excite Truck - 75% - Great fun, but limited options. Spiritual successor of Excite Truck Bike, but I don't think it has the beloved track editor of its NES predecessor. Multiplayer is only for two people.

Comment:

Mortal Kombat: Armaggeddon - 72.9% - Dunno much about this fighter. Multiplayer's a given in it, though it is not online.

Only thing to add here is that this version of MK is probably the easiest I've ever played. The Wii controls make performing complex special moves and fatalities easy.

Also, I'd like to see this expanded to as many Wii release titles as we can. Many of us have kids and even though we would probably never play Chicken Little or Disney's Princess Adventures ourselves, our kids would. And when buying titles for little ones it's nice to know which ones are actually fun for kids and which are just too hard.

I'll add this title since we rented it and my kids loved it.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/941743_92292.jpg
Disney Princess: Enchanted Journey
Great title for young children. It has 2 player coop, no online. It's a very easy 3rd person adventure / platformer. Gamers are rewarded with an animted cut scenes after they complete each section. I was personally impressed with the graphics, I was expecting very poor graphics but the game looks really good. The game is overally very short, my son (6) and daughter (4) beat it in coop mode in about 6 hours.

dmaul1114

01-07-2008, 02:19 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: no numbers, no stars, no elementary-school-style grades (Does A+ equal 10/10, or 9.5/10?). If you need to absolutely sum something up, just give me a nice, short blurb.

"Only worth it for fans of the genre."

There. Was that so fucking hard?

What's wrong with having numbers and short blurbs? i.e. IGN has numbers, a long review, and a nice short sum up at the end.

EGM used to be very good about having short blurbs as well. They still are sometimes, but too often waste their words with reviewers arguing with each other etc.

The Crotch

01-07-2008, 06:11 PM

What's wrong with having numbers and short blurbs? i.e. IGN has numbers, a long review, and a nice short sum up at the end.

EGM used to be very good about having short blurbs as well. They still are sometimes, but too often waste their words with reviewers arguing with each other etc.My point/assertion is that the numbers do absolutely nothing but distract from the review itself.

Correction: Fuck.

Comment:

Only thing to add here is that this version of MK is probably the easiest I've ever played. The Wii controls make performing complex special moves and fatalities easy.Will add that.

Also, I'd like to see this expanded to as many Wii release titles as we can. Many of us have kids and even though we would probably never play Chicken Little or Disney's Princess Adventures ourselves, our kids would. And when buying titles for little ones it's nice to know which ones are actually fun for kids and which are just too hard.

I'll add this title since we rented it and my kids loved it.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/941743_92292.jpg
Disney Princess: Enchanted Journey
Great title for young children. It has 2 player coop, no online. It's a very easy 3rd person adventure / platformer. Gamers are rewarded with an animted cut scenes after they complete each section. I was personally impressed with the graphics, I was expecting very poor graphics but the game looks really good. The game is overally very short, my son (6) and daughter (4) beat it in coop mode in about 6 hours.I'll add this one, but I won't enjoy adding it.

blackbird3216

01-21-2008, 06:42 PM

I just got my first Wii Points card and im wondering what i should get. Im thinking SM64 ,Super Mario World and Lost Levels. Never played the Metroid titles(except for prime 3), they just seemed to freaky for me. ;)

What are some "must-have" titles on the VC right now? Im assuming the upcoming Super Smash Bros is one of them, right?

Zen Davis

01-21-2008, 06:46 PM

Get some new stuff.

Beyond Oasis
Star Tropics
The Legend of The Mystical Ninja

blackbird3216

01-21-2008, 07:02 PM

Get some new stuff.

Beyond Oasis
Star Tropics
The Legend of The Mystical Ninja
what's that stuff supposed to be about.
Star tropics seems nice...

tankexmortis

01-21-2008, 07:13 PM

Get Super Metroid and Sin and Punishment. They're easily the best titles on the VC, and probably the best titles of their respective systems.

I'd also recommend:
Ninja Spirit (awesome and hard old-school ninja action)
Ocarina of Time (duh)
Mario Kart 64 (if you have four Gamecube controllers)
Alien Soldier (hard, surreal, and awesome)
Starfox 64 (in case you ever tire of Sin and Punishment, which you won't)
Doctor Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine/Kirby's Avalanche (the best two-player puzzler ever)

Strell

01-21-2008, 07:16 PM

Get Super Metroid and Sin and Punishment. They're easily the best titles on the VC, and probably the best titles of their respective systems.

This is the correct answer, and will remain the correct answer until Earthbound comes out.

WrestleCrap'sRD

01-21-2008, 08:50 PM

I have massive love for Baseball Stars 2.

RD

dmaul1114

01-21-2008, 09:09 PM

Super Metroid
Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros 3
Zelda A Link to the Past

Kendal

01-21-2008, 09:21 PM

Super Metroid
Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros 3
Zelda A Link to the Past

This, plus Startropics. Maybe even Mario Kart.

Mr. Roper

01-21-2008, 09:21 PM

I have massive love for Baseball Stars 2.

RD
Baseballstars 2 is going to be on the ps2 neo-geo collection volume 1.
I would say alien soldier is a must. I also really enjoy the donkey kong country series. I would have bought punchout if I didn' t already own it.
Sin and Punishment is another one you shouldn't pass up.
The next games I am going to get are star tropics and super contra.

lilboo

01-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Sin & Punishment is a good purchase, considering it's currently the most expensive. It's well worth it. Really. Plus buying it supports the game and we just might get a new game made for the Wii.. Right? RIGHT?!?

Air Zonk is a good time, not so much for Super Air Zonk. All 3 Bonk's are a good time. Anything Mario.. Super Metroid....Um. There's a lot of really good games. I'm sorry :-(

doubledown

01-22-2008, 11:13 AM

Thanks for the suggestions also....I have yet to buy a VC game yet. I have 2000 points, and just got 4000 more via the Dell $25 coupon fiasco.

I was thinking of getting some Super Nintendo games or N64 games since I never owned either.
How is Splatterhouse for the T16? I never played any T16 games at all....or Neo Geo really. Baseball Stars may be mine as I'm a sports fan.

tankexmortis

01-22-2008, 05:57 PM

Splatterhouse is alright. Not much on gameplay but heavy on style. Ninja Spirit's a better purchase if you want a TG-16 game.

FallMoon

01-22-2008, 06:16 PM

Paper Mario was the best 10 dollars I've spent in a while.

Kirin Lemon

01-22-2008, 06:39 PM

Kirby's Dream Course is one of the best games nobody's ever played. Absolutely shocked that it hasn't been mentioned yet.

01-22-2008, 06:51 PM

Paper Mario is awesome.

I bought Sin & Punishment but it's basically unplayable with the Wavebird (requires D-pad). Time to buy a classic controller...

tankexmortis

01-22-2008, 07:51 PM

Paper Mario is awesome.

I bought Sin & Punishment but it's basically unplayable with the Wavebird (requires D-pad). Time to buy a classic controller...
Yeah, forgot to mention that. However, even with the 20 bucks for the CC, it's still easily worth it at 32 dollars for one of the best gaming experiences ever.

SnorE

01-22-2008, 09:17 PM

baseballstars 2 is great

doubledown

01-23-2008, 11:00 AM

What is Sin & Punishment about? What type of game is it?

tankexmortis

01-23-2008, 11:15 AM

What is Sin & Punishment about? What type of game is it?
Imagine Neon Genesis Evangalion, only with terrible voice-acting.
Now imagine that you have a gun and shoot everything that moves.
Now imagine that it is glorious.
That's what Sin & Punishment is.

Real answer: It's an on-rails shooter by Treasure (creators of Gunstar Heroes, Ikaruga, etc) about a a couple rebelling against a fascist regime and their god-like pal. It's absolutely insane in the most positive way.

t0llenz

01-23-2008, 01:26 PM

My suggestions --
Pokemon Snap (N64)
Act Raiser (SNES)
SMB 3 (NES)
Kid Icarus (NES)

GodlyOne

01-23-2008, 06:54 PM

http://www.vc-reviews.com/

If you liked Metroid Prime 3 then check out Super Metroid, I personally recommend Sin & Punishment and Alien Soldier.

h3llbring3r

01-23-2008, 07:06 PM

Mmm just watched some Sin and punishment videos. DLing ASAP.
Was that a Japanese only release orginally?

GodlyOne

01-23-2008, 07:10 PM

Mmm just watched some Sin and punishment videos. DLing ASAP.
Was that a Japanese only release orginally?

Yep, that's why it costs 200 points more since it's an import title.

blackbird3216

01-23-2008, 07:19 PM

seems like repeated reccomendations are:

-Sin and Punishment
-Alien Soldier
-Paper mario(have not finished PMTTYD. Haven't played for 4 months)
-Supe Metroid

Im also thinking about:
SMW
SM64
SF64
Kid Icarus
Lost Levels

This is going to take me alot of wii points cards to buy...

AHEADAMUS

01-23-2008, 07:26 PM

Let's be careful on overemphasizing Alien Soldier. It is for the hardcore gamer, really. If you have a friend, consider Gunstar Heroes for the same gameplay and co-op instead.

But if you're not willing to bear the frustration, then you may want to avoid both!

Gourd

01-27-2008, 03:41 AM

Is Sin and Punishment frustrating as well?

I hear Treasure and I immediately think Old School Hardcore Shooter.

AHEADAMUS

01-27-2008, 04:01 AM

It has an easy mode that seems plenty accessible. The controls have a bit of a learning curve, but otherwise, its frequent checkpoints are beginner friendly.

Ice2Dragon

01-27-2008, 02:34 PM

You know, Nights is a great game. I think a lot of people dogged it because of what they heard, and never tried it.

I enjoyed the hell out of it.

I beat it, and loved it.

But now no more heroes is where its at..

AND IM PICKING UP ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS FOR 19.99 TODAY! WOO!

jman619

01-27-2008, 02:35 PM

Ice2Dragon

01-27-2008, 02:38 PM

I still want to play nights. Why would you even want alvin and the chipmunks?

Girlfriend wants it, shes been wanting it since it came out. and its 19.99 now.

So price match at CC, 49.99-33.00=16.99=18.xx :)

She wants to play it.

Crotch I had a chance to play CHICKEN LITTLE : ACE IN ACTION.

40 percent

Controls are GOD AWFUL, and its hella short.. very disappointing.. i loved the chicken little movie.. and this was.. words cant describe the horror it was.

The Crotch

01-27-2008, 02:50 PM

Just for you, I add Chicken Little and Alvin. In the kids' section. Does either game have multiplayer?

Nice signature, though.

Ice2Dragon

01-27-2008, 02:57 PM

Just for you, I add Chicken Little and Alvin. In the kids' section. Does either game have multiplayer?

Nice signature, though.

Alvin is 2 players offline, no online.

Chicken Little ace in action is 2 players as well, I dont think its online tho.

Also.. battallion wars is in the A column for some reason..

The Crotch

01-27-2008, 03:03 PM

Consarnit! Thanks.

Big Fo

01-27-2008, 03:17 PM

My favorites on the VC are Kirby's Dream Course and Super Mario World. Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 1+2, Bomberman 93, and Street Fighter II Turbo are also good. The selection is pretty impressive overall even if the new releases have started to slack off a bit.

Vinny

01-27-2008, 03:21 PM

Is Sin and Punishment frustrating as well?

I hear Treasure and I immediately think Old School Hardcore Shooter.

It's a little tough but not that hard. Mind you, I played with the GC controller and it was horrible because of hard it was to play the game but even then, I got pretty far at it.

I really need a good alternative (other than the Wiimote dangling Classic Controller).

Ice2Dragon

01-27-2008, 04:12 PM

Did anyone REALLY think harvey birdman was gonna be good?

Honestly?

I remember people were saying "OMG ITS LIKE PHOENIX WRIGHT BUT FOR THE DS LETS GO GET IT ASAP PRE ORDER GOGO" And it turned out to be terrible.

Expect that game to go 19.99 real quick -_- :(

doubledown

01-30-2008, 11:27 AM

Tsukento

01-30-2008, 11:32 AM

I can't speak for the others, but Punch-Out!! will always be awesome.

dothog

01-30-2008, 11:47 AM

Foo228

01-30-2008, 12:00 PM

There's a forgotten gem on the VC called Super Mario World. One of those games that came out before the SNES was able to pick up steam. You know, in the early days when Nintendo sold 1 console for every 5 of Sega's. As a result of poor market timing, sales of this "Super Mario" World suffered.

Be sure to stick with it through the early stages. It's kind of odd--dinosaur riding and mushroom eating (WTF!)--but it will pay off. Plus, there are turtles that walk on their hind legs. Hilarious!

Personally my favorite game, but it's not worth it to shell out $8 to replay it...yet again

Anyways, I strongly recomend it to for any "platform" fans out there

And before the question arises, It's a pretty basic game and it isn't hard (though challenging at times)

maguszxz

02-03-2008, 06:24 PM

I'm now a new Wii owner, and a cheap one at that. I really need some new software that won't break my already fractured budget. I like games that are pretty long with good gameplay and plot. I was wondering if you guy know any good "Bang for your Buck" games. Games that will hold attention until I can do more. Thanks in advance.

coolz481

02-03-2008, 07:04 PM

RE4 Wii Edition

carpwrist

02-03-2008, 07:12 PM

Not sure how much Elebits goes for these days, but it had alot of replay value to me when i had my Wii. The ability to create/edit your own stages is just something i'd consider "bang"ing.

lilboo

02-03-2008, 07:44 PM

To be honest, if you can pay full price for it.. Mario Galaxy can last you quite a while. It's very worth the $50.

But, if your looking for something along the budget titles then I'll recommend Ghost Squad! $30 (sometimes $20 at Amazon, and has been reported to be on clearance for $10 at Target). Short game, but it's A LOT of fun. You can get a lot of replay value out of it.

Sofa King Kool

02-03-2008, 08:05 PM

Resident Evil 4, although, I must say, it's just plain wrong to own a Wii and not have Super Mario Galaxy. It's definitely worth the $50 dollar price tag.

ihadFG

02-03-2008, 08:26 PM

Zack and Wiki is only $30 and will last you a good amount of time.

Rocko

02-03-2008, 08:35 PM

If you have someone to play with Wii Play.

Also, if you like GTA style games (and IMO I found this to be better than any GTA game), Godfather is $30 now and it's awesome. I sunk 50 hours into it, and cannot recommend it enough. One of my top Wii games.

Sir_Fragalot

02-03-2008, 08:35 PM

Fire Emblem- Really Long, Good Gameplay and Plot.
Mario Galaxy- Because it is fucking Mario Galaxy and it will last awhile.
Resident Evil IV Wii Edition- It is so good you will want to come back for seconds.
Zack and Wiki- You will spend hours saying what the fuck do I do now? As long as you don't use any help sites like gamefaqs this game is long.

Squall835

02-03-2008, 08:43 PM

Resident Evil 4 and The Godfather will do wonders for your body and soul.

schuerm26

02-03-2008, 08:46 PM

Im going to try to stay below $30

Zack Wiki
Scarface
Godfather
RE 4
MLB Power Pros (not sure what price point this is at right now)
Madden 07 (haven't played o8 but 07 was good)

If I had to choose just 1 it would be MLB Power Pros. If you aren't in to sports it would be RE 4. If you have already played RE4 it would be Godfather. If you have already played Godfather it would be Scarface. If you have already played Scarface it would be Zack and Wiki. :)

I liked all those quite a bit and I think they are all below $30

If you go to much lower in price you get into the crap kids game price range. Mercury Meltdown is $20 but Im not sure of the depth on that one. Marble Mania might be in the 20's. It's a great game but not something you would consider bang for your buck. Same goes for Rayman.

The Crotch

02-03-2008, 08:52 PM

As far as a length + quality combination, Fire Emblem (Yay!) and Godfather are your best bets.

Kaijufan

02-03-2008, 09:03 PM

Zelda Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, The Godfather (unless you've already played in on a different console), and Super Smash Brothers Brawl when it comes out in March.

js1

02-03-2008, 09:05 PM

I'll say Metroid Prime 3.

jennie25

02-03-2008, 09:52 PM

if you don't own it for another system, i highly suggest guitar hero III, and everything else everyone said above!

blackbird3216

02-03-2008, 10:32 PM

Personally my favorite game, but it's not worth it to shell out $8 to replay it...yet again

Anyways, I strongly recomend it to for any "platform" fans out there

And before the question arises, It's a pretty basic game and it isn't hard (though challenging at times)
i shelled out to play it for the first time. All i can say is that its' super hard.

blackbird3216

02-03-2008, 11:57 PM

if you don't own it for another system, i highly suggest guitar hero III, and everything else everyone said above!
well, he's in luck because:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/JediBaja/Gaming/TRUad001.jpg

lilboo

02-04-2008, 12:19 AM

Don't forget about Contra III.
Great game, but fuck that game because it's hard :cry:

Shion

02-04-2008, 12:30 AM

Streets of Rage 2!!!

Donkey Kong Country!!

Twinbee!

Dungeon Explorer even

SpottedNigel

02-04-2008, 02:41 AM

Wii Play is actually really fun as long as you've got a second player. The tank game is VERY addicting

lilboo

02-04-2008, 02:48 AM

OP, you might also be interested in spending $20 in a Wii Points card. There are some solid titles on the Virtual Console, some are VERY much worth their price. Paper Mario @ $10 is a great price.

bmulligan

02-04-2008, 04:46 AM

If you're making a tally of votes I'll add one to the Resident Evil 4 column. I've hated every RE game ever made until the Wii version.

I rarely finish games to completion but I've played through RE4 3 times already. Something about killing zombies with real aiming makes me randy.

Zelda was also really fun game that my son and I have put a total of over 100 hours into.

daminion

02-04-2008, 10:40 AM

Sir_Fragalot has an awesome list.

I will also add a few older titles:

Zelda Twilight Princess -- most folks probably forgot about it since it was the first game they played, and beat. But it's a lengthy rpg and it's a lot of fun.

Super Paper Mario -- RPG plus old school platform elements, plus a hilarious story line.

Metroid Prime Corruption -- Fun 1st person puzzle / shooter (more puzzle though)

Super Mario Galaxy -- In my mind it's the best mario to date. Be prepared to be playing for a long, long time if you're going for 100% completion.

It would be easier to narrow down the choices if you posted the types of games you like to play, or past titles you've enjoyed.

lilboo

02-04-2008, 10:45 AM

Daminion, as much as I enjoyed Super Paper Mario (and I did, very much!), I don't think it qualifies in what the OP was looking for. I don't think it was a very long game.. Very good game, but not that long. That's just all IMO of course :)

maguszxz

02-04-2008, 11:29 AM

dmaul1114

02-04-2008, 12:02 PM

In order:

Mario Galaxy
Zelda-Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
Resident Evil 4 (if you haven't played it on GC or PS2)

Those are all fairly long games, and very good games so well worth the money.

Smash Bros next month will clearly be the best bang for your buck game if you're into the series though. Lots of single player modes, local multiplayer, and most importantly in terms of extending playablity (and adding bang for your buck)--online play.

pittpizza

02-04-2008, 01:07 PM

You might as well knock out a "Must Own" game with a game that is very very long (hours-wise). With this in mind I'd suggest:

Zelda: Twilight Princess (one playthrough took me 45 hrs).
Mario Galaxy (owned for months and still don't have every star).
Metroid Prime 3 (best shooter on teh Wii Hands down). Also a fairly long game.
RE4: Wii, (just a sick, sick, sick survival horror game). My first RE game btw.

I lol'd when someone said: "Get Z&W, you'll spend hours wondering 'WTF do I do now?'" <--not exactly my idea of a fun time.

crystalklear64

02-04-2008, 01:09 PM

Chicken Little game is 5$ @ Shopko.

Solid game, good price.

dmaul1114

02-04-2008, 01:24 PM

I lol'd when someone said: "Get Z&W, you'll spend hours wondering 'WTF do I do now?'" <--not exactly my idea of a fun time.

Mine either. Those kind of games just drive me straight to gamefaqs so I can move on rather than wandering aimlessly. So I just skip them.

Moot point in this case as I just don't like point and click adventure games, nor any game where you don't have full control of your character, attacks etc. at all times.

But Z&W is well reviewed, and a decent length game per these reviews, so definitely one for the OP to check out if he's into the genre.

StinkyCheese

02-04-2008, 01:31 PM

OP, you might also be interested in spending $20 in a Wii Points card. There are some solid titles on the Virtual Console, some are VERY much worth their price. Paper Mario @ $10 is a great price.

agreed. Whenever there are recommending threads, wii points cards usually pop up. A lot of VC games are cheap, long and great fun.

Zelda ocarina of time, paper mario, and super mario 64 are worth the 10 bucks, as they are seemingly endless.

I really liked super metroid and pokmon snap, snap has its replay value and metroid has its 15+ adventure mode, with an extra '5+ hours of hunting down every pickup.

on wii side, I recommend the big three: metroid, mario, zelda. I havent played zack and wiki, but I hear great things about it

gamegirl79

02-04-2008, 02:06 PM

The Zapper w/Link's Crossbow Training is well worth the $20 price tag.

CombatCraig

02-04-2008, 02:22 PM

Sounding like a broken record but I agree:
RE4
Godfather
Zack and Wiki
Galaxy

AHEADAMUS

02-04-2008, 02:22 PM

The Zapper w/Link's Crossbow Training is well worth the $20 price tag.

Yep, some surprising depth to that title. I think you will get a lot more value out of it if you have a friend to compete against. That's how my friend and I turned it into dozens of hours ... no, really.

02-04-2008, 04:55 PM

Hey folks,
I've had a Wii for a month now and am loving it. I am feeling the serious need for some motion-controlled NFL football. It looks like I can get Madden 07 for $25, or Madden 08 for $40. So the question: is 08 worth the extra $15 over 07? I don't care too much about roster updates, and I don't think I'd play the online in 08 much. I really only care from a control and feature standpoint.

TIA,
matt

botticus

02-04-2008, 05:02 PM

If you aren't going to use the online (if it's even worthwhile after the rampant issues at launch), stick with 07. I only played a few games worth of 08, but I thought the controls were better in 07. I'm not sure if 08 added any minigames, but the ones available in 07 are good.

It's a shame 07 isn't cheaper yet, wouldn't mind rebuying it unless 09 turns out to be a return to 07 quality with online added. EA Canada needs to get control of that one again.

schuerm26

02-04-2008, 05:18 PM

Chicken Little game is 5$ @ Shopko.

Solid game, good price.

Ditto. I paid $17 for and felt it was worth it. If it hadn't been named "Chicken Little", I think it would have been more well regarded.

snipegod

02-04-2008, 05:34 PM

From everything I've heard, 08 is an actual step down from 07.

dracula

02-04-2008, 05:47 PM

adventure island
castlevania
castlevania 2
kid icarus***
legend of zelda
milons secret castle***
ninja gaiden
teenage mutant ninja turtles
zelda 2

actraiser***
donkey kong country 123
super metroid

zelda OOT

toe jam and earl 1 and 2
golden axe
gunstar heroes***
shinobi 3

air zonk***
bonk 123
gate of thunder
neutopia 1&2***
new adventure island
r type***
splatterhouse***
super air zonk***

baseball stars 2

You cant go wrong with anything i mentioned here- i am really impressed with the selection of turbo grafx games that they put up, that is very solid. Very very solid. I put asterisks by the great games that almost no one plays or talks about.

if you love RPGs you might want
breath of fire 2
shining force
star tropics
paper mario
Phantasy star 2

if you love shooters then get
blazing lazers
super c
galaga or galaga 90

i THINK alien soldier and alien storm were good shooters if they are the games i am thinking of.

If square enix ever puts secret of mana, chrono trigger etc on there, then get those too. And yeah, if mother 3, earthbound, or mother ever show up, then get those.

And if dungeon explorer 2, beypnd shadowgate, or some of the good import turbo shooters show up, then get those too.

I am not sure why sin and punishment is the most expensive game on the list, other than because it is an import.

edit added phantasy star 2

02-04-2008, 05:51 PM

No way, 08 blows 07 out of the water.

MJ, can you explain what you like better about 08?

dracula

02-04-2008, 05:53 PM

So, do they old sports games hold up at all?
- Punch Out
- Blades of Steel
- Ice Hockey
- Tecmo Bowl (no names apparently)
- Baseball Stars 2
- NES Playaction Football

Not sure what else is there....I still have to buy some VC games.

i liked mike tysons punch out- never played the other version(the version that is up on the VC),

blades of steel is a solid hockey game, tho there are far far better hockey games on the genesis(somebody make gretzky's head bleed for super fan number 99 over there).

Tecmo super bowl is better than tecmo bowl. Ice hockey is nothing special, ditto for play action football.

Baseball stars 1 is fantastic for the create a character formula, I *think* they brought that back for part 2 but i never played part 2.

This thread made me realize something: i must go out and buy a nintendo Wii. I am too old to be playing video games but fuck it, this is too good, i may not get all of these, i have played many of them already but some are worth replaying

crystalklear64

02-04-2008, 06:58 PM

Bonk 3
Wonder Boy in Monster World

my 2 favs. Bonk 3 is awesome with 2 people and WBiMW is awesome all around.

rjung

02-04-2008, 08:39 PM

No recommendations for Endless Ocean? It's only $30, and trying to find all the secrets in the game will take quite a while. And it's still perfectly enjoyable even after that...

--R.J.

snipegod

02-04-2008, 08:56 PM

Someone can confirm or deny this, but my brother told me that they actually took player creation OUT of 08, and that it was kind of a theme ... things that were in 07 being taken out of 08.

I don't have 08, so I don't know positively.

maguszxz

02-04-2008, 09:12 PM

I am liking the responses. I am curious about VC. I always wanted to play the Paper Mario series since N64. What other bang for your buck VC games are good.

Doomed

02-04-2008, 09:40 PM

I am liking the responses. I am curious about VC. I always wanted to play the Paper Mario series since N64. What other bang for your buck VC games are good.
If you have friends Mario Kart 64, otherwise don't bother since the single player sucks pretty hard.

Paper Mario was fun, but sort of got boring. Just know that it's an RPG. My playthrough was about 20 hours and I made an effort to get a lot of the items and whatnot, but I don't think I was close to 100%.

TheBigBoi

02-04-2008, 11:52 PM

For what you're looking for, I'd say just go for 07 then. I have 08, and I do play online and was happy to have some new rosters, so I got it (mind you it was my first Wii game).

noahj

02-05-2008, 12:51 AM

anything particularly good for a child about 5 years old that i could help play? something he could mostly play with occasional asistance?

Dezuria

02-05-2008, 12:57 AM

Responding to OP, like many others, I'd say Super Metroid. Great game.

The Crotch

02-05-2008, 02:10 AM

Someone can confirm or deny this, but my brother told me that they actually took player creation OUT of 08...Huh?

02-05-2008, 02:29 AM

Well, I picked up Madden 07 today. The motion controls are amazing. If they can bring the graphics to a higher-than-PS2-level, this could be my favorite game on the Wii.

StinkyCheese

02-05-2008, 10:10 AM

I am liking the responses. I am curious about VC. I always wanted to play the Paper Mario series since N64. What other bang for your buck VC games are good.

about the people recommending mariokart 64, I'm not so sure. Yes, I do own it, but mariokart DS is the better option, and you can buy it for the same price if you shop around or are willing to buy used copies. Although, the multiplayer on the 64 version is convienient for players who dont own a DS. still, the DS version supports wifi and 1 cart 4 players.

paper mario is a great game, nothing amazing. Its more of an adventure than an RPG ,just like metroid prime is more a adventure than FPS. The battle sytem is kept fresh with the badges, team members, special moves and items you gain, and you'll never use the same move 30 or so times over. The visuals are nice, and if you liked the yoshis island/story ''pastel'' setting, you'll like this.

phew, I feel like I'm writing a review or something :P. hope that helped

lilboo

02-05-2008, 10:57 AM

Best bang for your buck VC games.. Hmmm.
Paper Mario, Sin & Punishment, Star Fox 64, and Super Mario 64 are my top favs for the N64. Mario Kart 64 is great too, but like others said, it's only great if you have some friends.

Adventures of Lolo 1 and 2, both $5 NES games, are long and pretty challenging puzzle games. Super Mario Bros 3 for $5 is amazing. Super Mario World for $8 is ALSO amazing. But on the topic of $8, I'm also going to have to recommend Super Metroid too!.....and Gunstar Heroes.

There's a lot of VC games that are great, plain and simple :lol:

pittpizza

02-05-2008, 11:29 AM

Gunstar heroes and Starfox 64 are definite VC winners. Why buy a wii though just to play VC games? VC to me is a supplement, not the meat of the Wii (<--ha ha, get it?)

Please do yourself a favor and get some of the main games ppl are suggesting especially Zelda, Galaxy, RE4 or Metroid. They're top notch and IMO the best the Wii has to offer.

doubledown

02-05-2008, 11:50 AM

Well, I finally bought two games:
- Super Mario World
- Bubble Bobble (Wife wanted it...she loved it as a child)

pittpizza

02-05-2008, 12:12 PM

Yeah the disappointing Wii graphics of madden games is what makes me get em on the 360 instead of the Wii. They really do like like cube or PS2 quality.

The motion stuff is fun, though it definitely takes some getting used to.

greyweather

02-05-2008, 02:24 PM

Mine either. Those kind of games just drive me straight to gamefaqs so I can move on rather than wandering aimlessly. So I just skip them.

Moot point in this case as I just don't like point and click adventure games, nor any game where you don't have full control of your character, attacks etc. at all times.

But Z&W is well reviewed, and a decent length game per these reviews, so definitely one for the OP to check out if he's into the genre.

As a Z&W owner, I can safely say that wandering aimlessly is not what you will be doing. Each stage has a clear goal and most of the puzzles between you and that goal can be solved from visual cues or a little experimentation. And the game has an in-game helper called the oracle for if you get really stuck.

Basically, think of the puzzles in RE4, and then imagine their complete opposite. :)

On the VC front, multiplayer the best bang for your buck games are Bomberman '93 and either F-Zero X or Mario Kart 64 for the N64.

Single player depends a bit more on your personal preferences. For example, Shining Force was my best investment because I love turn-based strategy RPGs. Most of the recommendations so far are solid overall though.

I'm not sure I agree with the Star Fox 64 recommendation. Isn't that the one that takes about an hour to beat?

snipegod

02-05-2008, 03:39 PM

Huh?

Is that a confirm or deny? :-P

pittpizza

02-05-2008, 04:29 PM

I don't know.

By "player creation" you mean "superstar mode" right?

snipegod

02-05-2008, 06:06 PM

I don't know.

By "player creation" you mean "superstar mode" right?

The last Madden I played extensively was Madden 97 on the Genesis, so I'm not sure. Whatever mode lets you create a custom character and take him through training, insert him into a team/season, etc.

dracula

02-05-2008, 08:16 PM

anything particularly good for a child about 5 years old that i could help play? something he could mostly play with occasional asistance?

most of the platformers, like mario 123 and donkey kong country 123 are good pick up and play games, maybe some of the shooters.

just avoid splatterhouse.

Ice2Dragon

02-06-2008, 12:11 AM

Shouldnt you add

Nitrokbike
Bust a Move (8 player.. quite fun)

I could have sworn batallion wars 2 dropped in price.. so maybe its better now? Coulda swore I read some BB dropped it to 29.99

And dragon blade dropped hella in price, it still blows.

The Crotch

02-06-2008, 01:35 AM

Didn't Bust a Move suck like fucking crazy?

Ice2Dragon

02-06-2008, 04:01 AM

Didn't Bust a Move suck like fucking crazy?

It sucks when theres only YOU playing it, but its a fun party game.

Better than that shit mario party

maguszxz

02-06-2008, 01:50 PM

I thank everyone for the great responses and I have indeed made my mind up. I think I will go for these games:

Ghost Squad
Godfather
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

I will wait on these:
Super Paper Mario
Zelda

If you have any more ideas, keep them coming. Not just for my benefit but for others.

02-06-2008, 02:10 PM

pittpizza

02-06-2008, 03:41 PM

I'm not sure I agree with the Star Fox 64 recommendation. Isn't that the one that takes about an hour to beat?

It was short but not that short. And, like ghost squad (similar in that they're both "on rails") there are branching story arcs depending on the success or failure of some missions.

It was definitely one of my fav 64 games.

Glad to help OP, and I like your choices. PLEASE do yourself a favor and don't forget Metroid Corruption, it is hands down the best shooter on the Wii.

BTW I never played a RE game before in my life, ever. Maybe for a few hours at a friends house. But RE4 was one of my fav games on the Wii yet.

Callandor

02-06-2008, 03:47 PM

I am liking the responses. I am curious about VC. I always wanted to play the Paper Mario series since N64. What other bang for your buck VC games are good.

Actraiser - Not overly long (maybe 8 hours for a full playthrough), but a good, fun mix of sim and action.
Super Metroid - Best Metroid game ever. Your first playthrough will take some time. Don't use a guide the first time!
Shining Force - A great early strategy RPG. Also available as an enhanced GBA port. Shining Force II is superior but not available. (Come on, Sega, take my money! :D)

Regarding Star Fox 64: The game itself is short, but is more about mastery of the stages, difficulties, and gold medals. If you like to master games, then Star Fox 64 is a great choice. If you just want to beat it, then it might not be for you. (It's actually kinda similar to Rez in this regard.)

And definitely get RE4 if you want a "budget" Wii game with legs. It feels more like a shooter and less like pure survival horror. And the Mercenaries mini-game will suck away your time.

StinkyCheese

02-06-2008, 05:29 PM

PLEASE do yourself a favor and don't forget Metroid Corruption, it is hands down the best shooter on the Wii

agreed. I've almost finished my THIRD playthrough, each with a higher difficulty. Hypermode was really hard, and It took me hours to beat mogenar. hell, I even had trouble with elysias Defense Drone. Those damn mudballs were annoying enough until he whipped out the fucking fog. I'll probalby finish it tonight, Im at the Dark samus+ aurora unit battle. The first bit is tough, and I have 3/4 of my health gone (er,.. filled?) to finish of the second section.

Halo05

02-06-2008, 05:40 PM

RE:4 is one of my favorite games ever. I have yet to play the Wii version (might get it today) but really, not enough can be said about it. Capcom really knocked it out of the park IMO.

Not many people have mentioned Zelda - LTTP on the SNES VC. It's old but I still love it. It looks great upscaled.

vherub

02-06-2008, 05:45 PM

If the vc is an option, don't forget there are a ton of cube games, such as:
wind waker
viewtiful joe
eternal darkness
tales of symphonia
baten kaitos
prince of persia
metroids

Doomed

02-06-2008, 05:53 PM

Metroid Prime 1 includes NES metroid if you connect GBA Metroid Fusion (completed) to it. Not a very good deal but if you have a cheat device or a friend with one you can just unlock it with no fuss.

PyroGamer

02-06-2008, 06:25 PM

Resident Evil 4 is pretty long, is so good you'll want to play twice, and has a bunch of great bonus content.

Super Mario Galaxy is plenty long, and it's just sick to own a Wii without SMG.

maguszxz

02-06-2008, 07:23 PM

Super Mario Galaxy is plenty long, and it's just sick to own a Wii without SMG.

Yeah, it's a weird feeling having a Wii and not having Galaxy. I've played at GS and really liked it. In fact, Galaxy really sold me on the idea of the Wii. I will get it after I pay my monthly bills. Half.com has a copy brand new for 38.99.

Ice2Dragon

02-06-2008, 07:35 PM

Hey, can someone give me a review of Medal of Honor: Vanguard? Looks like it's not as good as Heroes 2, but has local multiplayer, and can be found in the ~$20 range. Basically, I'll be happy with any decent FPS, and I want to play one with Wii controls.

Crotch, is it your intention to only put *good* games in the OP, or reviews of any games? I again offer my review of Donkey Kong Barrel Blast: "Bongo-based game that doesn't support bongos."

Also, your review of Endless Ocean is a little harsh. It is a very unique an fun game, and judging from the huge threads here and at neoGAF, I'm not the only person who thinks that. I guess I would also add that I don't think that Lego Star Wars is just for kids, even if it is easy.

Vanguard is a decent buy for 20-25 range. It blew cod3/red steel out of the water, but the controls are just too figidity, they seem to crap out every now and then, basically getting you killed.

I like donkey kong barrel blast.

Endless ocean sucks, its swimming in the damn ocean. +1 to his review. Granted you arent the only person who says EO is a great game, but many people for the wii want ACTUAL games we do sheot in lol :)

Lego Star wars for the wii is actually challenging, but it was made for kids. Hence why its in the kids section -_-?

PyroGamer

02-06-2008, 09:09 PM

Yeah, it's a weird feeling having a Wii and not having Galaxy. I've played at GS and really liked it. In fact, Galaxy really sold me on the idea of the Wii. I will get it after I pay my monthly bills. Half.com has a copy brand new for 38.99.
That being said, I do feel SMG is overrated. Maybe even VERY overrated.

pittpizza

02-06-2008, 09:14 PM

Super Mario Galaxy is plenty long, and it's just sick to own a Wii without SMG.

I completely agree, and got the hell flamed out of me for saying that people weren't using thier Wiis properly.

The Crotch

02-06-2008, 10:15 PM

Let's seeeeee...

Vanguard was, according to the reviews, awful. It has a pre-Corruption control scheme, which is an enormous turn-off to me. Still, local multiplayer is hugely lacking on Wii shooters.

I'll add Barrel Blast. Totally forgot about that one.

I've got nothing personally against Endless Ocean. It's just not really much of a game. It's more like Electroplankton, only you can't leave it running during Snakes on a Plane to see what happens.

EDIT: I plan on adding only noteworthy games to the list. Shitty games will only be added when it seems like there's a chance in hell that someone would actually pick them up. That's why Soul Calibur Legends is on, but not Lilboo Photo Gallery 2.

Doomed

02-06-2008, 10:22 PM

but not Lilboo Photo Gallery 2.
Thank you.
I didn't know he made a sequal. He sent me the first one and I went into a deep coma.

drfunk85

02-06-2008, 11:59 PM

I wanted to give a little more indepth reviews of games you have posted, but still try to keep them brief:

Elebits - An extremely underated singly player game and hidden gem. It has kiddish graphics, so if you absolutely hate that look, stay away. Essentially you exist in a world with "Elebits" that are sort of like little Pokemon like things, except that they are the source of all the power in the world. Something has happened and you have to go around in different stages and collect all the Elebits with your gun that controls a lot like the gun in Ghostbusters.

Link's Crossbow Training - It's a pretty fun game and very addicting at times, but not very deep (similar to Wii Sports). The game basically consists of a couple dozen levels where you have to shoot at targets or Monsters. It is essentially a training exercise for using the Wii Zapper, but with high scores can be really addictive. Worth the $20.

Mario Strikers Charged - A great game if you are looking for something to play with friends. It is Soccer meets Mario Kart if you have never heard of it, but even if you don't like Soccer it is still really fun. You can get good games online, but are also sometimes ruined by people using cheap moves/cheating.

Red Steel - Not as bad as some people say. There is a little bit of a learning curve with using the controls, but after about 30 minutes to an hour of playing most get the hang of it. There are better games to spend your money on, but if you find it in a clearance bin for cheap, it's worth a buy.

Wii Play - Every new Wii owner should get this game assuming they are planning on having at least two remotes. A remote + Game for $50 means the game essentially costs $10. Like both Wii Sports and Link's Crossbow training, it isn't a really deep game, but is still fun. It is a good way to get a hang of the many different ways the Wii Remote can be used. Tanks is probably the best mini game which is one or two player where you control a little toy tank and have to drive around and shoot other various types of tanks. The levels start out easy but get progressively harder. Pool, air hockey, and some other quirky games are included.

The Crotch

02-07-2008, 12:31 AM

Thanks, man. Always lookingto flesh this thing out a bit.

Ice2Dragon

02-07-2008, 01:05 AM

Red Steel - Not as bad as some people say. There is a little bit of a learning curve with using the controls, but after about 30 minutes to an hour of playing most get the hang of it. There are better games to spend your money on, but if you find it in a clearance bin for cheap, it's worth a buy.

.

No, Red Steel was that bad. It was insanely boring, shitty graphics, and a shit tacular storyline with no potential.

It didnt deserve above a 40 percent.

drfunk85

02-07-2008, 02:58 AM

No, Red Steel was that bad. It was insanely boring, shitty graphics, and a shit tacular storyline with no potential.

It didnt deserve above a 40 percent.

Difference of opinions then. I didn't love the game, but I enjoyed it. If somebody I knew saw it in the $10 range, I would tell them to buy it. Feel free to include both opinions though.

Rig

02-08-2008, 05:14 AM

MLB Power Pros - 85.5% - Baseball for baseball lovers. Needs more waggle. Quick, someone - is there multiplayer in this? I would think so, but I don't know.

Yes, it has multiplayer.

02-08-2008, 03:29 PM

Vanguard is a decent buy for 20-25 range. It blew cod3/red steel out of the water, but the controls are just too figidity, they seem to crap out every now and then, basically getting you killed.

Thanks for the Vanguard info Ice2Dragon. Split-screen multiplayer is exactly why I'm interested in it. Does Vanguard have bots in the multiplayer? I watched some videos on youtube, and it looked like 2 guys running around in giant empty levels trying to find each other. This is the pitfall of many console shooters. You need online, or bots in multiplayer, or at the very least, small well-designed levels.

02-08-2008, 03:43 PM

Let's seeeeee...

Vanguard was, according to the reviews, awful. It has a pre-Corruption control scheme, which is an enormous turn-off to me. Still, local multiplayer is hugely lacking on Wii shooters.

Yeah, of course I've already looked at gamerankings & metacritic and know about the reviews. But by asking on the forums I can be specific about what I want--I want a Wii split-screen FPS that is better than Red Steel. Right now, this is pretty much the only candidate.

I've got nothing personally against Endless Ocean. It's just not really much of a game. It's more like Electroplankton, only you can't leave it running during Snakes on a Plane to see what happens.

Have you actually played it? It is actually a game, much more so than Electroplankton. That said, it is absolutely the most laid-back game I have ever played. But you are sent specific missions and actions to perform, and you are rated on how well you do, and there is a vast number of things to "collect". But everything is optional and you can just cruise around if you want. If you take GTA3, replace the city with the ocean, the gangsters with sea creatures, and the guns with a camera and fish food, you have Endless Ocean. I think most people immediately know if this concept appeals to them, and if it does, they will enjoy this game.

OT: I just read the entire Fire Emblem thread and I'm struggling not to buy it right now. I'm going to force myself to finish POR before I order it though.

doubledown

02-09-2008, 11:07 AM

So, what do people think of Mario Kart for the VC? Are they going to release the SNES version ever?

lilboo

02-09-2008, 11:57 AM

So, what do people think of Mario Kart for the VC? Are they going to release the SNES version ever?

They HAVE to. I wouldn't see why they wouldn't :)

greyweather

02-09-2008, 06:52 PM

Elebits
No multiplayer? I thought it had four player local co-op.

Victorious Boxers: Revolution
This franchise originated on the PS2, and it should have stayed there. You get to choose between 4 different wiimote + nunchuck controler setups, none of which work worth a fuck. The game is playable with a gamecube or classic controler, but that takes away the whole point of a boxing game on the Wii. Also, the story mode is a joke and they made no attempt to balance the different fighters in vs mode. Avoid this game. Two-player local multiplayer.

02-09-2008, 07:11 PM

Elebits has 4 player local multiplayer.

sportdan30

02-09-2008, 08:28 PM

I have my Wii hooked up to my 32" widescreen hdtv. I specifically set my Wii settings to 16:9, however the picture still shows in the standard screen size. There's a couple inches on each side showing the black bars. I didn't know if I was missing something, or can it not do widescreen?

Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

leveskikesko

02-09-2008, 08:31 PM

Some tvs I believe are just designed to have a little space not used for showing the picture.

Does it do the same thing to your cable tv shows or dvds?

Doomed

02-09-2008, 09:14 PM

I forgot to mention Animal Crossing if you're including GC games. Even if you completely hate it and think it sucks and whatever it has 19 full NES games on it! Most of them can be acquired by normal gameplay or a code, but 2 of them need an E-reader (Ice Climber and (not Super) Mario Bros.) and two more need a cheat device like an action replay (The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros.) but that still leaves 15 NES games that you can get for cheap and with little effort!

vasco

02-09-2008, 09:26 PM

anything particularly good for a child about 5 years old that i could help play? something he could mostly play with occasional asistance?

Bubble Bobble. And you can join in on the fun. Me and my wife play it non stop. It takes us back. My nephews (the new generation) play this game everytime they come.

As for recommendations, my 1st VC download was Super Castlevania IV. The music, the atmosphere, the graphics( at least back in the 90s ) still hold up well for me. I have never played Super Metroid. It's the only one I have never played. Why am I waiting?! Oh yeah, cuz I want to beat Actraiser first. Too many damn games. I hate being an adult with a credit card!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rocko

02-09-2008, 10:25 PM

Even if SMG is overrated (which is false), it's still a great game.

mcelfour

02-09-2008, 10:40 PM

Check the setting on the TV, it might not be set to "full."

Thought I'd throw that out.

Zen Davis

02-09-2008, 11:27 PM

Is your tv 16:10?

Dragonsbane

02-10-2008, 12:35 AM

So i have a wii and I have had one for about 14 mo......I own 2 games battalion wars and metal slug. I just got a wii perfect shot gun, i was looking for some good games to go with this. Also any good games in general. Please be gentle I am trying to mend my ways.

Sofa King Kool

02-10-2008, 12:39 AM

Oh good lord, go buy Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda right now! How the hell did you go 14 months without them?

Dragonsbane

02-10-2008, 12:43 AM

Ill say 30 konami codes and ask for forgiveness

scsg75

02-10-2008, 12:52 AM

No More Heroes!

Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles would go nice with that gun.

CoffeeEdge

02-10-2008, 12:54 AM

Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is AWESOME ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.

Big Fo

02-10-2008, 12:57 AM

Definitley get Super Mario Galaxy, it's brilliant.

No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki, RE4: Wii Edition, and Metriod Prime 3 are also worth looking into. I haven't tried any of the games that use the Zapper so I can't really help you there.

Big Fo

02-10-2008, 01:08 AM

I don't know how long it is since I bought it recently but Mercury Meltdown Revolution is a fun game that goes for $20. RE4, Zack + Wiki, and VC Points were also good suggestions.

Lan_Zer0

02-10-2008, 01:25 AM

Ghost Squad for the gun shell. Nice, cheap, and fun.

If you like Nintendo games. The obligatory Mario, Metroid, Zelda will do fine.

If you want something badass, No More Heroes.

Inherently enjoy Sega games? Sonic and the Secret Rings, Nights Journey of Dreams. Careful though.

Want to zone out and blast things? Geometry Wars.

Want to zone out and explore? Endless Ocean.

help1

02-10-2008, 01:31 AM

Do you have a 360? That could eliminate some choices. I haven't played No More Heroes, but I want to. Super Mario Galaxy plays very well, and so does Zelda. If those are not options and you are willing to wait, just wait for SSBB.

Photonman41

02-10-2008, 07:52 AM

Zack and Wiki definatly will be the best bang for your buck at 30 bucks. awesome game, has some real brain busters.

greyweather

02-10-2008, 08:17 AM

The House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return is coming out in 2 months for $30. I imagine that will go well with the perfect shot.

In general, it really doesn't get any better than Super Mario Galaxy. This will be the case until Brawl comes out in a month anyway. ^_^

mcelfour

02-10-2008, 09:34 AM

Or wait a few weeks longer for Smash Bros!

sportdan30

02-10-2008, 09:55 AM

Good questions from the last two guys. I'll be sure to check on each of those this morning. Thanks.

Ice2Dragon

02-10-2008, 10:07 AM

NMH

Fire EMBLEM!

clockworkgreen

02-10-2008, 10:08 AM

I don't know how long it is since I bought it recently but Mercury Meltdown Revolution is a fun game that goes for $20. RE4, Zack + Wiki, and VC Points were also good suggestions.

MMR is even cheaper without tax at Amazon.

I'm playing through it right now, and it's well worth the pricetag. It has a huge number of levels and it's fairly challenging.

Junkyarddogg

02-10-2008, 10:30 AM

Zelda TP... To me, hands down best game on Wii

Duckbutt

02-10-2008, 11:58 AM

Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
The Godfather
Super Mario Galaxy

Doomed

02-10-2008, 04:23 PM

i shelled out to play it for the first time. All i can say is that its' super hard.
WTF? There was one level in the whole game I consider hard (Tubular), and it's not even required to beat the game.

Never played Super Metroid because I don't have a Classic Controller, but I have no reason to doubt its awesomeness.

You can have loads of fun in battle mode of MK64 (with friends only), but I find the single player lacking compared to Double Dash and DS.

Lost levels is OK, but it's too hard IMO. I'm stuck in world 2 or 3 or 4 castle not knowing what to do.

Smash N64 (when it comes) isn't as good as Melee or (hopefully) Brawl. Definitely not worth $10.

I wholeheartedly recommend SMW only if you've never owned/beat it before and you like platformers. Not worth it if you own it in some other form.

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is on the Gamecube game Sonic Mega Collection and you can probably get it on GC for about the same price. It also includes Sonic 1-3 and a few other miscellaneous games.

ZForce915

02-10-2008, 06:41 PM

I recommend using the VC to try things you've never played vs. re-living old memories. I never played Paper Mario, so that was a lot of fun. I've played the hell out of Mario 3, so it was fun for a bit but I have so many other versions of the game that really it was kind of a waste.

HuppSav

02-10-2008, 07:31 PM

They HAVE to. I wouldn't see why they wouldn't :)
A better question is why wouldn't they make it online?

mukeliller

02-10-2008, 08:46 PM

bang for your buck? PuzzleQuest--$15 Who knew something so dumb would be so great Sunday mornings

DrMoze

02-10-2008, 08:54 PM

MOH:H2. Great with the Zapper. Long campaigns, great controls. PLUS, a huge rail shooter through the campaign scenes, AND a free online multiplayer mode! Lots of replay value, between missions, modes, difficulties, etc.

WrestleCrap'sRD

02-10-2008, 09:44 PM

The Crotch

02-10-2008, 10:46 PM

Invest in the stickied thread above.

ITDEFX

02-10-2008, 10:52 PM

Honestly, No.

I've played NFS:U1, NFS:U2, NFS: MW and NFS: C and out of all of them, I thought NFS: Most Wanted was the best out of all of them. NFS:U1 came in second because of it's soundtrack.

jman619

02-10-2008, 10:53 PM

Honestly, No.

I've played NFS:U1, NFS:U2, NFS: MW and NFS: C and out of all of them, I thought NFS: Most Wanted was the best out of all of them. NFS:U1 came in second because of it's soundtrack.

He is right. I might possibley pay 15 for it. Personally that is one of those games I would't want on the wii.

The Crotch

02-10-2008, 10:54 PM

Thanks, Ma/Grey/Rig. I'll fix that up.

Richlough

02-10-2008, 11:35 PM

I wouldn't buy any racing game on the Wii until Nintendo teaches everyone how to do it right with Mario Kart .

Kendal

02-11-2008, 12:53 AM

I suggest Harvest Moon when it comes out tomorrow.

Regian

02-11-2008, 01:17 AM

I'm a big sports guy, so I have to highly recommend Baseball Stars 2, Blades of Steel and Tecmo Bowl (although I keep my fingers crossed for Super Tecmo Bowl to hit VC in the future).

Outside of sports, Gunstar Heroes is a game I kinda liked (got it as a gift) and Super Mario Bros. 2 (aka The Lost Levels) should be a no-brainer to buy. I remembered playing it when it was on the SNES All-Stars dealie, but I didn't remember it being as tough as it is. So it's good fun and well worth it.

RelentlessRolento

02-11-2008, 01:57 AM

in terms of a good price for a good game and content: Zack & Wiki as well as RE4 Wii

Domikaze

02-11-2008, 02:14 AM

I really do have to agree with everyone who suggested Mario Galaxy. It's one of the best games I have ever played. Hands down.

But for a more discounted game, check out Zack and Wiki. Its like $30 I believe, and I think its one of the best Wii titles out there

Domikaze

02-11-2008, 02:19 AM

Ocarina of Time
Mario 64
Super Metroid
Kid Icarus
Gunstar Heroes

those are some really good ones. The first three are MUST haves.

urzishra14

02-11-2008, 02:45 AM

i'm going to be the first one to admit I do not own a Nintendo Wii.. the only reason I would get one would be for VC games or Super Mario Galaxy (or a TRUE sequel to Super Mario RPG not a Paper one)

as for VC games.. try any Super Bomberman game.. while they are fun with enormous amounts of people.. they are still entertaining in single player mode.. its like the top down zelda view and the bomb mechanic from that game.. but its just so dang fun... that would be the first one I'd recommend.

if you weren't around for the SNES RPG era.. try some out on the Wii.. Breath Of Fire (I know therse one on the VC which one is it like 2 or 3) is an excellent game and one I would first pick up.

Also, I enjoyed Street Fighter games.. especially if they are < 8 bucks.. spending 50 bucks on the VC is much more bang for your buck then spending 50 dollars on one title. (I only own a 360 and I play the live arcade games way more then the "real" software i have purchased.

as for mario/zelda games.. Personally I would stick to the SNES or NES ones (IMO Mario 3/world > 64 and Link to the Past > any zelda since) so you can't go wrong there.. and if a link to the past is only like 8 bucks you could easily spend 10-20 hours on that game. Super Mario World is equally impressive and deep.

i'm probably the only one here who would recommend the following 2 games but I just love them so much..

Final Fight
Streets of rage

I loved those games they are simple and hold up on mulitple run throughs .. .and sometimes you just want a quick action game and these kinds of games fit the bill for me..

rjung

02-11-2008, 02:57 PM

If you take GTA3, replace the city with the ocean, the gangsters with sea creatures, and the guns with a camera and fish food, you have Endless Ocean.
Yeah, except GTA doesn't have creepy-ass goblin sharks hiding in the abyss or jaw-dropping lost cities...

--R.J.

rjung

02-11-2008, 03:11 PM

First for MOTHERfuckING EXCITE TRUCK!

--R.J.

Zen Davis

02-11-2008, 03:16 PM

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Mario Galaxy
No More Heroes
Resident Evil 4: Wii
Super Paper Mario
Fire Emblem
Endless Ocean
Zack & Wiki
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Metal of Honor Heroes 2

StinkyCheese

02-11-2008, 03:19 PM

METROID PRIME 3

Zen Davis

02-11-2008, 03:21 PM

METROID PRIME 3

I already said that.

pittpizza

02-11-2008, 03:56 PM

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Mario Galaxy
No More Heroes
Resident Evil 4: Wii
Endless Ocean
Metal of Honor Heroes 2

That's my list too.

Zen Davis

02-11-2008, 04:05 PM

That's my list too.

High five.

02-11-2008, 05:25 PM

That thread merge sure fucked up the flow here.

LinkinPrime

02-11-2008, 05:47 PM

02-11-2008, 06:16 PM

Sorry about that...
It may have fucked up the flow here but it got rid of the clutter on the forum and this thread will have no problems picking backup where it last left off. If any of you see any other "what game should i buy...etc." threads pop up, feel free to PM me and I'll take care of them.

Haha, sorry, I should have put a smiley, I know you're just doing your job. I had been following both threads, so it was really confusing to open one and find the other. :)

LinkinPrime

02-11-2008, 06:24 PM

Haha, sorry, I should have put a smiley, I know you're just doing your job. I had been following both threads, so it was really confusing to open one and find the other. :)

No need to apologize, I didn't take it out of context. :D

The Crotch

02-11-2008, 06:27 PM

Woah, what the hell happened here?

Just so's ya know, Linkin, I'm fine with "Recommend VC Game" threads being left alone. I haven't really added anything in here for that stuff.

LinkinPrime

02-12-2008, 02:14 PM

Woah, what the hell happened here?

Just so's ya know, Linkin, I'm fine with "Recommend VC Game" threads being left alone. I haven't really added anything in here for that stuff.

Ok...I'll just move/close the Wii game ones then.

maguszxz

02-12-2008, 02:25 PM

I didn't mind the clatter. What boards have you go to and people were worried about clutter. It's so crammed you can hardly figure out what people are talking about. But I guess a organized thread is better than a comprehensive one. Keep up the "ok" work.

ihadFG

02-12-2008, 04:54 PM

Dewy's adventure has a multiplayer mode, but you listed it as "no multiplayer whatsoever."

The Crotch

02-12-2008, 06:39 PM

Consarnit!

02-13-2008, 01:07 AM

Hey Crotch, you like No More Heroes better than Fire Emblem? Just out of curiosity, what's the third game in your top 3? Zelda? Mario Galaxy?

The Crotch

02-13-2008, 02:00 AM

Metroid Prime.

mickeyp

02-18-2008, 11:43 AM

My 6 1/2 year old son is enjoying Ben 10 on the wii a lot. He finished it with the credits in 2 days. He is going back to the different levels and replaying them to get all the cards. If your child loves Ben 10 show they will like this.
The game has co-op drop in/drop out mode like the lego star wars game.
I tried it a little as well it was fun. He never usually plays these "kiddie games", I actually rented the game from blockbuster with a free coupon. He usually plays uncharted. and he finished COD4 as well.

The Crotch

02-18-2008, 02:49 PM

Will add it.

02-21-2008, 10:54 AM

I have the Godfather, and it's completely rad. Busting up a store never felt so good. Is Scarface as good as this? I was thinking about picking it up on Xbox, which supports 720p (pretty good for last-gen), but wondered if the motion controls in the Wii version make it worth living with 480p.

The Crotch

02-21-2008, 02:32 PM

From the little that I've read, Scarface is supposed to be a little bit better gameplay-wise than Godfather, but the use of "fuck" every other fucking fuck fuck minute gets (fucking) annoying.

02-21-2008, 03:20 PM

From the little that I've read, Scarface is supposed to be a little bit better gameplay-wise than Godfather, but the use of "fuck" every other fucking fuck fuck minute gets (fucking) annoying.

Yeah, I've played the game on Xbox, so I know about the fuckity fuck fuck. Reading the IGN review though, it sounds like the Wii-specific controls are not as great as they are in the Godfather. Plus Scarface looks really nice on the Xbox, and is going to be pretty jaggy on Wii (I still love you Nintendo).