Midway pulls Mortal Kombat I from Midway Arcade Treasures Vol. 2

[Sporadic]

Three months after it finalized the final games for Midway Arcade Treasures 2, Midway has announced it is adjusting the lineup for its classic game compilation. Gone are combat helicopter sim Steel Talons and the jet-sled racer STUN Runner. In their place comes the spaced-out action game Kozmik Kroozr’ and its prequel, Wacko. A full list of the games is below.

A.P.B.
Arch Rivals
Championship Sprint
Cyberball 2072
Gauntlet 2
Hard Drivin’
Kozmik Kroozr’
Mortal Kombat 3
Mortal Kombat II
NARC
Pit Fighter
Primal Rage
Rampage World Tour
Spy Hunter 2
Timber
Total Carnage
Wizard of Wor
Xenophobe
Xybots
Wacko


Midway also used the occasion to show off the new box art for the game, which has a sleeker, more stylized look than its predecessor. The sequel to the successful Midway Arcade Treasures will arrive October 11 for the Xbox, GameCube, and PlayStation 2. It is rated "M" for mature.

link (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/08/03/news_6104042.html)

Also notice how MK 1 is off of the list. Thanks you MK: Deception SE :roll:

Moderator: Moved to General Gaming & Industry News forum as it is a multiplatorm game. Thanks.

[davidmt]

Why would they take out MK 1 but leave in 2 and 3? I don't get it.

[Jaket]

so midway can get more money thru kollectors edition of MK:D

[bignick]

Fuck that. Im not buying it now.

[jimbodan]

Thats totally weak. F their shitty collectors edition.

[CaseyRyback]

the original is a waste of time. The fact that it includes a perfect port of MKII makes it more than worth a purchase.

[scsg75]

MK2 was always my favorite anyway.

[KaneRobot]

the original is a waste of time.

You say that like MK II and/or III were hallmarks of gameplay quality. They're all pretty weak and don't hold up well today.

They were all good games (yes, including the first one) if you're willing to accept style over substance in this case. I still like the presentation of all three of them so I enjoy them.


shaq-fu that. Im not buying it now.

Agreed. That's a bitch move. I was thinking about picking it up, but after they did that, forget it. If I want to play MK I'll play it on MAME.

[Sarang01]

the original is a waste of time. The fact that it includes a perfect port of MKII makes it more than worth a purchase.

Agreed somewhat on the MK2 note. Personally I'm pissed off Acclaim didn't get off their butts and make the port of MK2 to the Saturn perfect when it would've been no sweat. Anyway, I don't know if I'll buy it. Depends on the cost. If it's $20-30 I'll think about it but now hearing MK was gonna be on it and has been taken off pisses me off. You ask me Midway needs NOT to be burning bridges like this especially when they've been LOSING money hence Midway giving away MK:DA with purchase of "Psi-Ops" and "Midway Arcade Treasures" with purchase of "The Suffering". This is also continued with the pre-order of the new "Shadow Hearts" game where you get the original by doing it.
I will say I wish other companies would follow Midways example with this old school collection. I wouldn't mind seeing "Tiger Road" and other Capcom/Romstar games available in a compilation. Other titles that come to mind: "Magic Sword", "Dungeons and Dragons: Tower Of Doom", "Dungeons and Dragons: Shadow Over Mysteria", "Warzard", "Knights Of the Round", etc.

[punqsux]

ok to anyone who is pissed off by this (i know i am) e-mail midway and tell them about it. its total bull shit.

webmaster@midway.com

heres what i wrote to them
I'd like to know the reason MK1 was removed from the MAT2 compilation.I'm fully aware that MK1 will be on the new mk special edition, but if that's the reason, it's pretty weak.
I hope the exclusion of MK1 was just a typo on the website i read it on (gamespot) but i'm just checking to see what the reason is, or if ive just been misinformed.

[BigHow]

This is total booty. Right after I was elated to hear that it was still coming to the GCN, they drop this bomb?

At least it still has Primal Rage and NARC.

[Ledhed]

If it's $20-30 I'll think about

The game's MSRP is $20.

[BlueWingX]

I'll still get this, because I NEED my A.P.B., but this totally bites. I had no intention of buying Deception anyway, at least not at full retail price. Urge to kill....rising...

[rebenns]

I was pumped to buy this, but they can go to hell now. Removing MK was bad enough, but also taking S.T.U.N Runner and Steel Talons, probably the two best games, just blows. Krappy Kozmic Kroozer and Wacko(ff) are poor consolation. This has gone from Must Have to Steaming Pile in one simple business decision. The only way Midway can save themself is saying they are replacing MK1 with UMK3, and SR and ST with some of their 90's driving or gun games, but we know that will never happen.

[epobirs]

Well, I've got STUN Runner and Steel Talons on the Lynx but I've never had a home version of Wacko or Kozmik Kroozer. I don't recall the sequel but Wacko was pretty significant in terms of resolution at the time and had a weird cabinet that I hope will be shown as part of the documentary portions.

I've never had any use for the entire MK series, so the removal of that and the inclusion of something I did like from way back when is a big plus. I get much more excited by the new availablity of obscure arcade machines rather than the umpteenth release of a game that has been on every platform that could remotely support it.

I'd like to see more. Williams had a Laser-Disc w/genlocked overlay racing game whose title I forget but that has only been available to home users via some very expensive setups. The same things can be easily replicated via DVD now. I also want a version of Atari's 'I, Robot' arcade game.

A collection of the Exidy gun games, including an uncensored Chiller.

A collection of the Universal title: space Panic, Mr. Do, Lady Bug, etc.

Some of the ever forgotten Atari machines: Kangaroo, Escape From The Planet of the Robot Monsters, Major Havoc, Black Widow, Peter Packrat, Arabian, etc.

And a zillion great machines from companies that never did much of anything afterwards worth mentioning, like Spiders.

[guyver2077]

sucks but ill be picking it up anyways....they should atleast add umk3 if they took out mk1.

[CheapyD]

Sounds like a PR nightmare to me. What were they thinking?

[DesertEagleXIX]

I'll leave my preorder, but I'm a bit pissed anyway.

[magilacudy]

Damn I'll probably be playing a bunch of those games regardless of MK 1. As long as Rampage and Gauntlet have 4 player support, and it stays $20 I'm buying it.

[epobirs]

4 players in Rampage would be a first.

[KingDox]

I am mad, but I do like Mk2 more then part 3. We still don't really know why. I'm sure there will be such an backlash they will have to comment on it. Maybe they are holding the games for vol 3.

[Sarang01]

I was pumped to buy this, but they can go to hell now. Removing MK was bad enough, but also taking S.T.U.N Runner and Steel Talons, probably the two best games, just blows. Krappy Kozmic Kroozer and Wacko(ff) are poor consolation. This has gone from Must Have to Steaming Pile in one simple business decision. The only way Midway can save themself is saying they are replacing MK1 with UMK3, and SR and ST with some of their 90's driving or gun games, but we know that will never happen.

Why not just include an UMKT instead? You'd get the best of the 64 version with the extra boxes and the "Fatality Demonstration" for the next to last box as well as ALL the boss characters with a fatality attached as well as the "Classic" characters having their fatalities.

[Xevious]

I'm curious...why Mortal Kombat 4 is not in the collection?

[Xevious]

Here are a couple emails; You can email Midway.com and complain.

Game Comments or Questions:
Email: games@midway.com

Public Relations
Email: pr@midway.com
Phone: 773-961-2557

[soulwish2003]

WACKO!!!

Loved that game!!

[jer7583]

I was going to buy Arcade Treasures 2, cause i loved the first one.. but I refuse to now. This is absolutely rediculous. I thought midway was on its way to redeeming itself, but this is really cheap. I will also not be buying the new Mortal Kombat, although it was starting to look somewhat interesting.

I also think its totally greedy how they require you to buy the $60 SE to play as scorpion..

[PittsburghAfterDark]

WTF???

STUN Runner and Steel Talons were the only reason I wanted that one. As was mentioned they never came home for anything but the Lynx. Oh man, this blows, this blows bad.

[jer7583]

I sent an email to both of those addresses letting them know how dissapointed I am with this and that I will not be buying either MK deception or MAT2. I suggest you do the same, don't let them think we're okay with this and will just buy it anyway. We don't have to buy their incomplete collection or rediculously priced collectors edition.

[Duo_Maxwell]

No Steel Talons or MK 1 huh? Well, fuck you very much Midway.

[punqsux]

I sent an email to both of those addresses letting them know how dissapointed I am with this and that I will not be buying either MK deception or MAT2. I suggest you do the same, don't let them think we're okay with this and will just buy it anyway. We don't have to buy their incomplete collection or rediculously priced collectors edition.

thats what i said but theres a brick wall over there you can talk to...

[Scrubking]

I emailed everyone and told them that I wasn't buying if MK wasn't in the compilation.

I was SOOO looking foward to some Mortal Kombat 1 goodness, but if this news is true they can go to hell.

If anyone hears anything new about this please post!!

[epobirs]

WTF???

STUN Runner and Steel Talons were the only reason I wanted that one. As was mentioned they never came home for anything but the Lynx. Oh man, this blows, this blows bad.

Nah, Steel Talons had an SNES version, as well as Amiga and Atari ST versions you can run under emulation. Stun Runner made the rounds of the major gaming computers too but got less console versions. This is a bit odd since it was both a more popular arcade machine and a much simpler programming task.

[dpatel]

just sent an e-mail to both addresses. Hopefully if enough of us do this, it will work. Spread the word.

[jer7583]

I am happy to hear that more people are letting them know about this, I am posting topics on the GameFAQs boards for MAT2 and MK:Deception, hopefully we can get more people from there to email.. let all the MK, Midway, and MAT fans you know hear about this so we can get as many emails sent to midway as possible!

[Scrubking]

Looks like this piece of news is official.

Avault is saying the same thing:
http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=832004-152310

I hope Midway goes bankrupt and every suit who made this greedy money grubbing decision loses all of their earthly possesions stumble into a forest and get ass raped by dirty, greasy, slimy hillbillies with monster shlongs and then get eaten and ravaged by bears.

[GizmoGC]

Its really not that bad. MK1 wasn't as good as MK2, however the removal of STUN Runner and Steel Talons is pretty bad. Thank god I have both of those on my Lynx.

[Sarang01]

I was going to buy Arcade Treasures 2, cause i loved the first one.. but I refuse to now. This is absolutely rediculous. I thought midway was on its way to redeeming itself, but this is really cheap. I will also not be buying the new Mortal Kombat, although it was starting to look somewhat interesting.

I also think its totally greedy how they require you to buy the $60 SE to play as scorpion..

It may be worse than that. "Raiden" and "Mileena" may be part of SE's exclusive to the respective stores that get them, like how "Scorpian" is an EB Games exclusive for the SE.

[RedBoot]

I also think its totally greedy how they require you to buy the $60 SE to play as scorpion..

That's not true. EB's version of the SE has a exclusive Scorpion cover. Not exclusive character. Scorpion will be in all four versions of the Xbox SE, the PS2 SE, and both the Xbox and PS2 regular versions. In other words, in all the versions. EB's just trying to up their preorders. Note that the Gamestop listing for the game says "Exclusive Baraka cover" and not "Exclusive Baraka character."

Anyway, MAT2 is still worth $20 with or without MK1. Honestly, with MK2 on there I wouldn't be playing MK1 much anyway.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Those games may have been on the Amiga or ST but I never had either. I'm also on a Mac and don't run MAME stuff as I hate playing games at my desk I just wanted Steel Talons and STUN Runner on my XBR910 with component video. I so loved that game.

I don't understand why they would change the lineup for this given how close they were to release and the games can be ported to run on a PS2 or Xbox in a few hours of controller programming. I mean doesn't every console in existence, at least with developers kits, run a MAME program?

Don't they realize that classic gaming geeks are the ones most likely to clog their mailboxes with hate mail???

[drone8888]

I emailed them MANY MANY hours ago.

I forgot to copy and paste it to my clipboard, or I'd post it.

It was like 15 paragraphs long.
I doubt they'll read it, but it was a really good email.

They sicken me!!

After MK, they had nothing.

[Dawson210]

It's an outrage that the original MK is no longer included considering that this news broke months ago and got tons of oldschool gamers excited that the complete MK trilogy would be available on a single disk. Sure the original MK was nowhere near as good as its 2d sequels, but what attracted me (and others i'm sure) to MAT2 was solely the inclusion of the ENTIRE trilogy, not jus 2 and 3. This kinda sellout crap gives away the fact that Midway is a corporate money whore and doesn't care about their fans.

[rocksolidaudio]

are you guys actually going to be playing 1 over 2&3, or is this just for collectors' sake?

[SiLvErNbLaCk415]

I remember playing NARC on the original Nintendo...is the NARC in MAT2 the same as the one on Nintendo?

[Scrubking]

are you guys actually going to be playing 1 over 2&3

YES!

And for you people who keep saying that MK 1 sucked please shut up already and realize that there are people out there who like part 1 more than the others. :roll:

[jmcc]

are you guys actually going to be playing 1 over 2&3

YES!

And for you people who keep saying that MK 1 sucked please shut up already and realize that there are people out there who like part 1 more than the others. :roll:

No there aren't! What a horrible thing to say! Even the idea that such monsters exist out there...it's awful!

[Squirms]

Is Cyberball 2072 the same one that was on the Genesis? I loved that game.

[rebenns]

The guys at Midway are either subscribing to the "must maximize profits" philosophy that is so popular among giant publishers, in that they do whatever it takes to maximize profits, even screw the games to high hell. That, or they're worshippers of George Lucas, and want to do to MAT2 what Lucas did to Star Wars.

[eldad9]

Yes, it really sucks. They're much worse than Namco, splitting 30 games or so across FIVE releases. It's evidently enough to make a person swear uncontrollably and wish that more people in the world got raped.

Grow up. A company's selling a product. You can choose to buy it, or not. That's all there is to it.

And about steel talons and S.T.U.N. runner - who knows? maybe it turned out they were much harder to emulate on these consoles than originally thought.

I haven't seen any of you whiners write an emulator for even a 2D title, even on the much easier to program PC architecture. You have absolutely no idea how much work goes into it. It's not like the publisher called a few of your friends, asked them what your favorite midway games were, and decided to remove those.

Would you rather buy this title to find these two games are so glitchy they're unplayable?

[Kowalski]

No there aren't! What a horrible thing to say! Even the idea that such monsters exist out there...it's awful!

I think what he means, jmcc, is that some people want to play a little MK1 so they can be reminded of how bad it was. Then they can appreciate MK2 more

[Xevious]

I'm glad people are emailing Midway. The more people email their complaints to them, the more likely they are to consider reversing their decision.

Here are the email address again (Sorry If I'm reduntant).

Game Comments or Questions:
Email: games@midway.com

Public Relations
Email: pr@midway.com
Phone: 773-961-2557

[Scrubking]

Mortal Kombat 1 PWNS all of J000000!!!!1!!!1

[epobirs]

Yes, it really sucks. They're much worse than Namco, splitting 30 games or so across FIVE releases. It's evidently enough to make a person swear uncontrollably and wish that more people in the world got raped.

Grow up. A company's selling a product. You can choose to buy it, or not. That's all there is to it.

And about steel talons and S.T.U.N. runner - who knows? maybe it turned out they were much harder to emulate on these consoles than originally thought.

I haven't seen any of you whiners write an emulator for even a 2D title, even on the much easier to program PC architecture. You have absolutely no idea how much work goes into it. It's not like the publisher called a few of your friends, asked them what your favorite midway games were, and decided to remove those.

Would you rather buy this title to find these two games are so glitchy they're unplayable?

You're talking about some very old arcade hardware. STUN Runner is all off the shelf 1989 hardware that is extremely well documented:
http://emustatus.rainemu.com/games/stunrun.htm

Steel Talons was done on a later generation of this same hardware.
http://www.system16.com/atari/hrdw_harddrivin.html

Unlike a homebrew emulation project the people coding for Midway have access to all the proprietary data and can use off the shelf licensable emu code bases for the major processors. Their primary task is to create the virtual wiring that joins it all together.

The funny thing is that these games are so trivial by today's standards that it would be vastly easier to write them as native applications than go through all the work of emulating the original hardware that used dozens of discrete chips costing thousands of dollars to do the same job as a modern $5 chip. The fact is that these games were already reproduced pretty well on home computers that themselves are so far behind the capacity of current game systems that an Xbox can easily run an Amiga 68020 emulator to run the Amiga versions of these games. (Many modded Xboxen are doing exactly that already.)

Part of the fun of these packages is the exactness of the reproduction, thus making emulation preferable to native versions. As well, this can be much more cost effective if you have a lot of games that run on the same emulated hardware. This would raise the question of whether they wanted to put all of the titles using the Hard Drivin' hardware in a separate product but the continuing inclusion of Hard Drivin' itself makes that questionable.

There is either an IP issue over the rights to these two titles or they simply decided to hold them back as part of a planned third package of arcade classics. If this third package were to focus on the rise of 3D then they'd damn well better include I, Robot in there.

[Dawson210]

Yes, it really sucks. They're much worse than Namco, splitting 30 games or so across FIVE releases. It's evidently enough to make a person swear uncontrollably and wish that more people in the world got raped.

Grow up. A company's selling a product. You can choose to buy it, or not. That's all there is to it.

And about steel talons and S.T.U.N. runner - who knows? maybe it turned out they were much harder to emulate on these consoles than originally thought.

I haven't seen any of you whiners write an emulator for even a 2D title, even on the much easier to program PC architecture. You have absolutely no idea how much work goes into it. It's not like the publisher called a few of your friends, asked them what your favorite midway games were, and decided to remove those.

Would you rather buy this title to find these two games are so glitchy they're unplayable?

You work for Midway or something? Because you seem to be the only one defending their decision to have gamers spend $60 more just to be able to get the whole MK trilogy.

And you do realize that you're on the CheapAssGamer message board, right? Keyword: CheapAss

[jmcc]

Strange that no one is decrying the omission of MK4 from the compilation...

[KaneRobot]

What Midway should have done was include the PS1/Saturn version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy in the MK:D Collector's Edition. Then they could have left the Arcade Treasures 2 disc alone, while including something special for the people who spend the extra on MK:D.

It would make MK:D CE better because it would have something with more appeal than MK 1 by itself, and it would keep the fans of the Arcade Treasures disc happy. Unless they are still pissed about the omission of S.T.U.N. Runner, which I'm not too happy about either.

[eldad9]

You work for Midway or something? Because you seem to be the only one defending their decision to have gamers spend $60 more just to be able to get the whole MK trilogy.

I don't work for Midway. The decision doesn't need to be protected; it's their decision to make, they certainly don't owe you anything. Just like it's your decision whether or not to buy their products.

The key question is: Was the company behaving responsible to shareholders (I'm assuming the publisher's publicly held without checking) when the decision was made?

Personally, I think so, but none of us will ever know for sure.

But this classic compilation still has incredible value, especially for $20. And not many people will miss the original Mortal Kombat when they get the newer MK on the same disc.

P.S. epobirs, thank you for your post. It was insightful and informative. I admit now I'm curious about the reasons for excluding these two games - technical (who knows what problems they came across), licensing (who do they belong to now? are any of the other games owned by the same party?) or otherwise.

[Dawson210]

What Midway should have done was include the PS1/Saturn version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy in the MK:D Collector's Edition. Then they could have left the Arcade Treasures 2 disc alone, while including something special for the people who spend the extra on MK:D.

It would make MK:D CE better because it would have something with more appeal than MK 1 by itself, and it would keep the fans of the Arcade Treasures disc happy. Unless they are still pissed about the omission of S.T.U.N. Runner, which I'm not too happy about either.

I totally agree. If MK:D would include the MK Trilogy game and MAT2 would leave the original MK alone, I'd definitely consider getting MK:D along with MAT2 (and maybe it would be worth the price too). But if Midway does not do anything about the exclusion of MK on MAT2, I'll be way disappointed.

[GameDude]

I'm a shareholder in Midway. Not a ton, but about 400 shares or so.

I'd like for them to include on 3 on a disc, but if it's more profitable the way it is now, then I'm all for it.

[Duo_Maxwell]

You work for Midway or something? Because you seem to be the only one defending their decision to have gamers spend $60 more just to be able to get the whole MK trilogy.

I don't work for Midway. The decision doesn't need to be protected; it's their decision to make, they certainly don't owe you anything. Just like it's your decision whether or not to buy their products.

The key question is: Was the company behaving responsible to shareholders (I'm assuming the publisher's publicly held without checking) when the decision was made?

Personally, I think so, but none of us will ever know for sure.

But this classic compilation still has incredible value, especially for $20. And not many people will miss the original Mortal Kombat when they get the newer MK on the same disc.

P.S. epobirs, thank you for your post. It was insightful and informative. I admit now I'm curious about the reasons for excluding these two games - technical (who knows what problems they came across), licensing (who do they belong to now? are any of the other games owned by the same party?) or otherwise.

I'd think it could hurt PR and sells thus being bad for the shareholders. I mean this just isn't about including on the CE of Deception either. What about GCN owners? They are getting screwed over in general by not being able to have a oringinal MK port in the GCN lineup at all. And this is next to the fact that they listed an official slate of games on the disc, then blantantly changed it just a handful of weeks before release. I'd think that's bad for business.

[Mr Unoriginal]

You work for Midway or something? Because you seem to be the only one defending their decision to have gamers spend $60 more just to be able to get the whole MK trilogy.

I don't work for Midway. The decision doesn't need to be protected; it's their decision to make, they certainly don't owe you anything. Just like it's your decision whether or not to buy their products.

The key question is: Was the company behaving responsible to shareholders (I'm assuming the publisher's publicly held without checking) when the decision was made?

Personally, I think so, but none of us will ever know for sure.

But this classic compilation still has incredible value, especially for $20. And not many people will miss the original Mortal Kombat when they get the newer MK on the same disc.

P.S. epobirs, thank you for your post. It was insightful and informative. I admit now I'm curious about the reasons for excluding these two games - technical (who knows what problems they came across), licensing (who do they belong to now? are any of the other games owned by the same party?) or otherwise.

Just as it's their decision on what games they want to include in a collection, it is our decision to complain to them and tell them that we are upset. Sure they are out to make a profit, but if they could give a rat's ass about what we think then they will not stay successful. Telling a company you are upset isn't whining, it's letting them know how to make a better product and how to serve you the consumer.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

I just got this in an email in regards to STUN Runner and Steel Talons.

Thank you for contacting Midway Games. These games were unfortunately
pulled due to unforeseen technical difficulties.

Claire Moore
Customer Service Manager
Midway Games

Sounds like they had emulation issues. Disappointed but stuff happens.

[RedBoot]

Sounds like they had emulation issues. Disappointed but stuff happens.

It's very likely. They probably still could have included them, but they would have run like crap, and then people would bitch about shoddy programming or something. Midway really couldn't win in this situation.

[punqsux]

i just got this to the e-mail i sent yesterday


Thank you for contacting Midway Games. We appreciate your feedback
concerning the changes made to the MAT2 game line up and the inclusion
of MK1 on the collector's editions of MK Deception.
I sampling of customer emails will be submitted to our marketing and
business departments so that your opinions and statements are heard.

[Xevious]

i just got this to the e-mail i sent yesterday


Thank you for contacting Midway Games. We appreciate your feedback
concerning the changes made to the MAT2 game line up and the inclusion
of MK1 on the collector's editions of MK Deception.
I sampling of customer emails will be submitted to our marketing and
business departments so that your opinions and statements are heard.


At least you guys got responses. Thats a positive sign (I've have to check my email when I get off work to see if they responded to me)

[Scrubking]

i just got this to the e-mail i sent yesterday


Thank you for contacting Midway Games. We appreciate your feedback
concerning the changes made to the MAT2 game line up and the inclusion
of MK1 on the collector's editions of MK Deception.
I sampling of customer emails will be submitted to our marketing and
business departments so that your opinions and statements are heard.


I just recieved that same email. Now let's see if our opinions are heard.

Just as it's their decision on what games they want to include in a collection, it is our decision to complain to them and tell them that we are upset. Sure they are out to make a profit, but if they [don't] give a rat's ass about what we think then they will not stay successful. Telling a company you are upset isn't whining, it's letting them know how to make a better product and how to serve you the consumer.

Well said!

[epobirs]

I just got this in an email in regards to STUN Runner and Steel Talons.

Thank you for contacting Midway Games. These games were unfortunately
pulled due to unforeseen technical difficulties.

Claire Moore
Customer Service Manager
Midway Games

Sounds like they had emulation issues. Disappointed but stuff happens.

I find that hard to believe. Hard drivin', which uses the same hardware to be emulated, is still included. These are not complex machines by today's standards. Recreating these games from scratch would be a summer project for high school student using one of the many "So you want to make 3D games" kits out there.

If they were dropping Hard Drivin' too I'd be more trusting but the contradiction make me suspect they have another motive than they're admitting.

[AtmaWeapon]

My letter:

"Hi, I was checking up on Gamespot and realized that MK1 was removed from the MAT2 compilation. Gee, this wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that MK1 is now being included in MK5 SE? Greedy bastards, I won't buy either now, at least not until MK1 is put back on the compilation where it belongs with the other classics. Thanks for your time, as I know I'm one of many gamers who are pissed off about this."

[Sarang01]

In the last posters vein this is the letter I'm tempted to write:

"I know you're going broke here but making a move like taking MK out of MAT2(after it was confirmed or whatever just weeks or months earlier) and placing it in Collector's Editions of MK5 just alienates more gamers from buying your products and lessens the sympathy you would like to create.
I myself will still pre-order "Shadow Hearts: Convenant" to play the sequel as well as use the original that comes with it to introduce my friend to it but other than that do NOT expect me to buy MAT2 or MK5 Collectors or regular edition for a long while as well as any other Midway products.".

[jer7583]

I got this pathetic response.

Subject: RE: Regarding recent decision to remove MK1 from Arcade Treasures 2

Thank you for contacting Midway Games. We appreciate your feedback
concerning the changes made to the MAT2 game line up and the inclusion
of MK1 on the collector's editions of MK Deception.
I sampling of customer emails will be submitted to our marketing and
business departments so that your opinions and statements are heard.

Claire Moore
Customer Service Manager
Midway Games

Which led to my typing this response.

I would expect no less from the second worst publisher in gaming (Acclaim still sucks harder, longer, and cheaper than you guys) than a formulated response to an email that has already been deleted. Way to go, you're ignoring what your customers want. You guys must really be anxious to get back into bankruptcy again. Fuck you very much, Midway.

Disgruntled,
Jeremy

Nice little flame..

[jmcc]

Yeah, I got the form response too. Here's my rebuttal.

Dear Midway

This is unacceptable, this removal of a game nobody will miss to create a special edition of a game. I'll still buy Midway Arcade Treasures 2 and now Mortal Kombat Deception SE, since both still have a huge amount of content and value, but you can be sure I'm very angry over this decision. I WILL be moaning at length about this on various internet messageboards, be sure of that! I hope you read some of the mean things I say and feel really bad!

Your stupid customer who doesn't know how to influence a company and has no contact with reality anymore,
Jmcc

PS: Psi-Ops and The Suffering were awesome. I love you Midway XOXOX

[mmn]

Yeah, I got the form response too. Here's my rebuttal.

Dear Midway

This is unacceptable, this removal of a game nobody will miss to create a special edition of a game. I'll still buy Midway Arcade Treasures 2 and now Mortal Kombat Deception SE, since both still have a huge amount of content and value, but you can be sure I'm very angry over this decision. I WILL be moaning at length about this on various internet messageboards, be sure of that! I hope you read some of the mean things I say and feel really bad!

Your stupid customer who doesn't know how to influence a company and has no contact with reality anymore,
Jmcc

PS: Psi-Ops and The Suffering were awesome. I love you Midway XOXOX

I almost spit soda on my monitor laughing at that. You jerk.

[jer7583]

Nice over the top jerkish response, it made me laugh as well. For someone who wasn't going to buy MK:Deception and wanted MAT2 a lot though, this does kinda suck, you have to admit.