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SS4Brolly
12-14-2003, 11:42 PM
Makes more sence to break Best and Worst into 2 different polls. I had to combine a few options because 14 options was a little too many. Sorry 'bout that.


So, what FF was a big chore to play?

minx
12-15-2003, 12:11 AM
9 was all graphics, and no substance.

I remember getting stuck in line at various stores and getting drawn into conversations about the game when it first came out with complete strangers. time and time again after they would explain it was a good game I would ask why and they would say the graphics. And then I would ask what else, and they had nothing.

Now I got this game on my sickbed the day it came out and played it nonstop until I was better, but once the fever wore off, I realized the only reason I was playing was the finish it and not because I enjoyed it -- which is always the wrong reason to play any game.

In my opinion, thisgame's only be redeeming quality is a character named Vivi, who's depiction was so sympathetic, I still get warm fuzzy feelings towards him years later even though I absolutely loathe the game he originated from .

ladies and gentlemen, this was not 8-bit theaters black mage ;-)

PS,

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http://www.nuklearpower.com/

MrBrando
12-15-2003, 12:23 AM
totally agree, FF 9 was very by the numbers. I haven't played many FF so I wa thinking many that's why I didn't enjoy it (I hear it was for people that have played most past ones). I couldn't even finish it and gave it to a friend for free. Also, Vivi was the only good part, he's just so cute I couldn't help it.

minx
12-15-2003, 12:27 AM
I've heard that past one's theory too,and let me tell you something; as a person who has owned all the previous final fantasies save 4, this theory does not hold water.

It's almost like the new Fox special

"When fan service games go horribly wrong,toss the naysayers into a fan to be chopped up before anyone can notice" ;-)

Scrubking
12-15-2003, 07:21 AM
I hate FF8 cause that is when Square started focusing on the unisex male characters and love instead of good gameplay. They tried to redeem themselves with FF9, but afterwards followed their hearts (pun), and started giving us the techno future love stories that we see today. [puke]

Not to mention it is hard enough to follow-up on a revolutionary game (FF7), but to go from greatness to WTF is sad. You know how many people bought FF8 cause of FF7 - thinking it was going to be another revolutionary game?

Now that I think about it - FF8 was a revolutionary game... a revolutionary disappointment.

ShadowXOR
12-15-2003, 08:14 AM
8 owned 7, hard. Anyway, X-2 is by far the worst. The only terrible Final Fantasy. 9 was second worst, but it was still a decent game, like 8/10. X-2 is like a 5/10. I've been through 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, and 10 and they were all good (including 7, I just like 8 more, 7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance, I've noticed anime fans and simpletons like 7 more.) BTW, it's totally unfair to put X and X-2 as the same thing. X was great, X-2 was terrible.

Scrubking
12-15-2003, 09:25 AM
8 owned 7, hard. Anyway, X-2 is by far the worst. The only terrible Final Fantasy. 9 was second worst, but it was still a decent game, like 8/10. X-2 is like a 5/10. I've been through 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, and 10 and they were all good (including 7, I just like 8 more, 7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance, I've noticed anime fans and simpletons like 7 more.) BTW, it's totally unfair to put X and X-2 as the same thing. X was great, X-2 was terrible.

Stupidity like this is why I usually stay away from Final Fantasy discussions.

Demon-Xanth
12-15-2003, 11:26 AM
It's not on the list, but "Mystic Quest" was pretty bad. FF8 ruined it though.

simpsonps121
12-15-2003, 11:30 AM
Well this is my opinion. I have played and beaten 7, 8, 9, 10. I also own Tactics (PSX) and Chronicles. (Have played little of each.)

My least favorite was 10. The reasons are a couple. I am not a huge Sci/fi fan, so that rules out the whole us against Sin thing. (I love fantasy though.) I also never was that angry with the antagonist. (Be it Sin or the priest guy.) 7, 8, 9 all made me hate someone.
Also, the story did not make me happy or sad at the end. I was dissapointed that Tidus was not alive and he could not be made alive. - just a memory.

That being said - I really like Blitz ball. A wonderful scence of Tidus comforting Luna. Nice touch - even without the kiss. I enjoyed acquiring the top weapons.

My 2 cents. To each their own.

Firebrand
12-15-2003, 11:46 AM
Final Fantasy 8's junction system and magic system...prevented me from even getting into the game.

greendj27
12-15-2003, 11:54 AM
Its actually funny how worked up some people get about which one is the best / worst. I have played all of them, and my least favroite was FF 8. But to be honest, I enjoyed playing them all.

masta0031
12-15-2003, 12:26 PM
Like greendj27 i enjoyed them all. I've played 4-10 and both the tactics. however my love for the series is fadeing. ive noticed that they keep makeing the main charecters younger and younger. there are a million other rpg's staring these teen and sometimes preteen hero's, final fantasy used to be the one series that stared adults. I dont know about you but im sick of watching the main charecters go through puberty. and the latest one ffx was the most irritating for me. tidus had a voice that had me scrabling for the mute button and yuna had the personality of a cheeze pizza.

E-Z-B
12-15-2003, 12:46 PM
The worst I played was the one on Final Fantasy Anthology (FF 5, I think - with the meteors that crashed into the earth and you could teleport from one to another). I kept playing it thinking that maybe it would get better, but alas, it ended like it started - weak.

E-Z-B
12-15-2003, 12:50 PM
When I was half-way through FF5, I then realized why this game was never released in the U.S. -- because it sucked. A poor comparison to the SNES FF 2 & 3.

pukemon
12-15-2003, 03:14 PM
wow. i wonder what makes people buy rpg's now that i see ff8 is ridiculed that much. ff8 story kicked 7's ass up and down the rpg block, and is second to ff6's story. the gameplay was about the same though i preferred 8's gf system to the materia. the materia was very cool though. 9 was a sad excuse for a game. 10 sucked balls. and i think ff x-2 is square's way of trying to make up for the people who aren't going to buy ff11.

gamefreak
12-15-2003, 04:05 PM
Let's try not to call too many names =D

That being said: I played FF7 and it's great. Its the only one I have really spent much time with so I can't really decide. When my PS2 gets back I'll try X and see how it fares...

SS4Brolly
12-15-2003, 04:12 PM
7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance...

Yeah, I hate to too :roll:

One of the main reasons people think 7 is great is because of the Matria System. 110% customization. You can have Cloud counter with 8 Omnislashes if you play your cards right.

ShadowXOR
12-15-2003, 04:19 PM
8 owned 7, hard. Anyway, X-2 is by far the worst. The only terrible Final Fantasy. 9 was second worst, but it was still a decent game, like 8/10. X-2 is like a 5/10. I've been through 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, and 10 and they were all good (including 7, I just like 8 more, 7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance, I've noticed anime fans and simpletons like 7 more.) BTW, it's totally unfair to put X and X-2 as the same thing. X was great, X-2 was terrible.

Stupidity like this is why I usually stay away from Final Fantasy discussions.

Wow, your so mature. Because people don't agree with you, their stupid? Get a life kid. If your love cliches, and games built to sell (you'll probably love X-2, they are barely wearing clothes) over solid storyline and originality...then that's your thing. Just because you don't agree wth me doesn't mean you need to be a pompous ass. Just let people state their opinion. It seems like you can't handle discussions.

greendj27
12-15-2003, 05:18 PM
8 owned 7, hard. Anyway, X-2 is by far the worst. The only terrible Final Fantasy. 9 was second worst, but it was still a decent game, like 8/10. X-2 is like a 5/10. I've been through 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, and 10 and they were all good (including 7, I just like 8 more, 7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance, I've noticed anime fans and simpletons like 7 more.) BTW, it's totally unfair to put X and X-2 as the same thing. X was great, X-2 was terrible.

Stupidity like this is why I usually stay away from Final Fantasy discussions.

Wow, your so mature. Because people don't agree with you, their stupid? Get a life kid. If your love cliches, and games built to sell (you'll probably love X-2, they are barely wearing clothes) over solid storyline and originality...then that's your thing. Just because you don't agree wth me doesn't mean you need to be a pompous ass. Just let people state their opinion. It seems like you can't handle discussions.

You realize he was saying that because you said that only anime fans and simpletons like FF VII. It seems to me that you started the immature name calling.

video_gamer324
12-15-2003, 05:18 PM
I am probably one of the only people on the planet that thinks that not only is FF7 bad, but FF8 as well. Sure, there are plenty of people who hate one or the other, but I despise both, and I'm not afraid to be in the minority. I didn't really have any arguments about the graphics, music, or storylines, but gameplay really killed both, especially the battle systems. Mind you, I enjoy true turn-based systems as well as real-time battles (as in Kingdom Hearts), but the two just don't mix. To me, battles just aren't fun when you have to wear out the buttons on your controller simply to avoid losing a turn. There should be at least some element of freedom, whether it be in who you attack or where you can move. I give Square credit for trying to develop an innovative battle style, but I don't think it turned out good.

gamefreak
12-15-2003, 06:02 PM
I am probably one of the only people on the planet that thinks that not only is FF7 bad, but FF8 as well. Sure, there are plenty of people who hate one or the other, but I despise both, and I'm not afraid to be in the minority. I didn't really have any arguments about the graphics, music, or storylines, but gameplay really killed both, especially the battle systems. Mind you, I enjoy true turn-based systems as well as real-time battles (as in Kingdom Hearts), but the two just don't mix. To me, battles just aren't fun when you have to wear out the buttons on your controller simply to avoid losing a turn. There should be at least some element of freedom, whether it be in who you attack or where you can move. I give Square credit for trying to develop an innovative battle style, but I don't think it turned out good.

You are in a minority. I didn't know it was possible to hate both! =D

minx
12-15-2003, 06:31 PM
tidus had a voice that had me scrabling for the mute button and yuna had the personality of a cheeze pizza.

Thank you!

It needed to be said


Yuna drove me absolutely bonkers with her vapidness and inability to apparently think beyond the box.

We all would've been much better off if Titus had pulled a Laura {of Warp games D series}


Also, for my fellow people who have unlimited saga and have experience the Japanese version of the American x2 trailer know that the voice work sounds much better in the original Japanese.

the English singing especially gets on my nerves after having heard the original :-(

AvidPs2GMR
12-15-2003, 07:14 PM
I almost voted 8 until I considered 9 was the only one I have yet to replay....

masta0031
12-16-2003, 12:30 AM
whats up with everyone saying ff8 had a great story? ill admit it had a great love story. but all that nonesense about sorceresses and SeeD, not to mention a last boss you dont even meet untill the second you fight her. it was like the creators of this game were locked in a room where they had to watch nothing but bad buffy reruns untill they finished the game.

minx
12-16-2003, 12:54 AM
I didn't think too much of the story either......it's not that the story wasn't properly complex in interwoven enough -- it was -- and I appreciated the effort.

I just didn't see it as building up to any kind of climax.

Then I beat the game, couldn't read any of the ending text, and you can imagine how frustrated and angry I was.

And then, during the credits, there was Selphie's videocamera.

And it encompassed every emotion

pulled together every loose end into a warm fuzzy feeling

And I cried

extzed
12-16-2003, 01:36 AM
I've enjoyed almost all of the em, and I think by this point I've played just about everyone except for 3....only because I dont think it was ever released here in any sort of chronciles, anthology pack whatever
that being said, I think I liked FF4 the best, probably because it was the first one I played, and I played it to death....least favorite....well I didn't much like the story of 7, but thinking about it now.... I'm not really sure if I ever even beat 9.....guess I'll have to go and check the old memory card out

minx
12-16-2003, 01:46 AM
guess I'll have to go and check the old memory card out

ROTFLMAO!

You haven't read about my final fantasy memory card fiasco yet, have you ;-)

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3945


You might want to reread my posts on this before you make such a rash decision......

extzed
12-16-2003, 01:54 AM
ROTFLMAO!

You haven't read about my final fantasy memory card fiasco yet, have you

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3945


You might want to reread my posts on this before you make such a rash decision......

hmm after reading that I think perhaps I could at least wait until there is another person here with me otherwise I probably would be greeting the sunrise, and with working tomorrow that might not be the best idea :-k

assclownzz
12-16-2003, 02:54 AM
Wierd I like both 7 & 8 , but my favorite is 7 (just started new file,been so long since i played gameplay feels new) anyways my least favorite has to be 9.

masta0031
12-17-2003, 06:56 AM
i love all of them, in my opinion they all have flaws, just some bigger or more than others. and i think there should be more games about cussing and big tits.

sandwiches99
12-17-2003, 09:26 AM
8 owned 7, hard. Anyway, X-2 is by far the worst. The only terrible Final Fantasy. 9 was second worst, but it was still a decent game, like 8/10. X-2 is like a 5/10. I've been through 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, and 10 and they were all good (including 7, I just like 8 more, 7 was all cliches, meteors, cussing, big tits, 8 was about story and substance, I've noticed anime fans and simpletons like 7 more.) BTW, it's totally unfair to put X and X-2 as the same thing. X was great, X-2 was terrible.

Stupidity like this is why I usually stay away from Final Fantasy discussions.

I'm with you there Scrubking. FF7 was the last good FF game. In fact, it was the last Square product I liked. I played Chrono Trigger on SNES for the first time a couple months ago. It just made me realize that Square games up until FF8 had a certain quality that made me want to play them. FF8 was downright unplayable. FF9 was playable but never had that Square charm. And I found the characters in FFX to be so annoying I couldn't play the game anymore.

The problem with Square is that they are giving into their own hype too much with stuff like FFX-2. I'd also like to meet the person who thought the Final Fantasy movie was good.

Monsta Mack
12-17-2003, 02:31 PM
FF2j is by far the worst imho for me. You get four set characters who can't change their abilities much, and you can build your stats and spells by attacking eachother! gah! Plus the female main character sucks! Heck, everyone sucks except Lionheart and his big ass axe! That and the story line was so bleh. Anyone who owns FFOrigins knows what I'm talking about.

ps2jin
12-18-2003, 12:54 PM
FF 8 is horrible....Squall was such a jerk....

Ben_F
12-28-2003, 03:30 PM
i love all of them, in my opinion they all have flaws, just some bigger or more than others. and i think there should be more games about cussing and big tits.

Hear hear!

But really, Ive played all of them up to 7 (japanese versions included), and i pretty much like them all. And im a tactics, junkie, so i couldent vote for that. Hrm.. Maybe i should just join the bandwagon and be all anti-FFVIII "cuz y'all say it sux0rs teh donkey Ballz" [/AOL talk].

But really, my favorite would have to be Either 4j/5j, 4 Has a killer story, and 5 has that almost Tactics like Job System (its where FFT got the system). Argh. Can't decide. Must not vote..

/me votes for FF2

eldad9
12-28-2003, 04:02 PM
Obviously most of you have never played FF 2; otherwise you would have voted for it.

Of course, you may think you've played it but you've actually played FF 4, renamed (renumbered) FF 2 for Americans because FF 2 and 3 weren't considered good enough to publish outside Japan.

Amnesiac
12-28-2003, 05:00 PM
Oh boy. Anyone knows that asking people to compare Final Fantasies is a sure-fire way to start a flamewar.

That being said, I think the reason fans are always split on the series is because every game is vastly different from the others (this goes double for the more recent entries in the series). RPGs are by far the most time consuming of any genre, and people are going to become very attached to a game that they spent a lot of time on and enjoyed, and are going to detest a game that they invested a lot of time in and came out unsatisfied. Also, I think people look for different qualities in RPGs. Some prefer a deep combat and leveling system, some want a deep story, and some want interesting characters.

That being said, my least fave FF has to be 8. The stories in almost all the FF games basically boil down to saving the world with a romantic subplot, so slight variations in a plot aren't enough to endear me to it. And I really didn't like the leveling or battle system to 8. Characters were pretty much worthless on their own. They gained maybe one or two stat points per level, and they weren't really all that different, either (no distiguished mages or fighters). It all boiled down to which GFs you equipped and which magic you had junctioned. All in all, I just felt the battle system was really bland.

My favorite in the series.... probably 4. It was the first console RPG I played, and the memories it brings back just make it the most enjoyable for me. That, and it's a darn good game to boot. Though truthfully, I liked 6,7, and 10 almost as much.

FF2 was weird, and felt more like a SaGa, but truthfully, for the time it was released, it was actually pretty decent. I think the reason that 2 & 3 never made it stateside was because the first FF was released just before the SNES made its debut, so they decided to skip ahead to 4 (FF1 was released 1989, and FF2US 1990, at least according to gamefaqs).

kram
12-28-2003, 05:59 PM
How can you guys not like 9? 9 is one of my FAVORITES! There was just this really magical feeling in that game that just consumed me. The story was really good and the gameplay was fun. I don't like how 7 and 8 are set in the future with all this techy stuff (gun-blade?).

Ben_F
12-29-2003, 02:36 PM
Obviously most of you have never played FF 2; otherwise you would have voted for it.

Of course, you may think you've played it but you've actually played FF 4, renamed (renumbered) FF 2 for Americans because FF 2 and 3 weren't considered good enough to publish outside Japan.

Exactly why i voted for it. I have played it :D

Monsta Mack
12-30-2003, 03:34 AM
The masses have awoken and realized the truth; FF2j sux :evil:

DenisDFat
12-30-2003, 06:16 PM
The series went into a suck spiral after 5.

6 sucked, so did 7. Hard. 8 continued the suckage, 9 tried hard to break free, but in the end, couldn't. 10 was suck, and the commercial for FFX-2 has made me hate video games forever, despite liking video games.

Ben_F
01-02-2004, 02:51 PM
The series went into a suck spiral after 5.

6 sucked, so did 7. Hard. 8 continued the suckage, 9 tried hard to break free, but in the end, couldn't. 10 was suck, and the commercial for FFX-2 has made me hate video games forever, despite liking video games.[/b

I didnt think i commercial for a game could make me not want to play it so badly as that one singing one for X-2, even if someone gives it to me I will never play it.

X_X

yogi99
01-02-2004, 03:20 PM
I have FF1 to FF10 except FF3. I had finished FF1, FF3 (Japanese NES), and FFX-2. I started FF7 and FF8 and almost finished FFX. From what I had played so far my favorite is FFX because the graphics and story are very good. FF3's jobs change and FF8's GF are great too.

DMFunk
01-02-2004, 03:30 PM
Err yeah, as someone who has played every final fantasy on that list, finished them all, and even the final fantasty games not on the list, i'm going to say, everyone that thinks All the FF's suck...

Go play your sega pico's and eat some animal crackers, because it's time for bedtime you video game n00bs.

Final Fantasy has Awed gamers for years, and will for years to come, it IS the king of RPG's, no other RPG series has pulled in so many fans, i'm surprised it has enemies.

Anyways, this is one huge effing flame war now, so my two cents are that none of the Final Fantasy's on that list deserve the worst title of them, sure some of them were bad, but did you not finish them till the end? There was only one that I never finished.

That one that I never finished, lacked story, a good cast, and complete gameplay. Final Fantasy Legends for the Game Boy.

For those of you that hated 8, yes I'll admit I thought that was the worst one for a while, then I thought about it... And the reason I hated it was the crazy Limt break combos... but I noticed they added to challange, and that is one thing that n00b's typically hate about video games, is challange.

Of course there is a difference between challange and crap.

A challanging game can be beaten, as long as you give it time, and look at it a few ways. (ie. Super Ghouls and Ghosts (SNES))

Crap games cannot be finished due to bugs and crashes. (ie. ET (Atari 2600)) (yes I know SOMEONE actaully finished this game, but they know it's a huge glitch :P)

With these two categories defined I think that every final fantasy on that list fits into the challenging category.

TheRock88
01-03-2004, 11:41 PM
Mystic Quest, that was the most crappiest FF I have ever played in my life. An example is you only got to control 2 characters in battle at one time.

DenisDFat
01-04-2004, 08:46 PM
Final Fantasy has Awed gamers for years, and will for years to come, it IS the king of RPG's, no other RPG series has pulled in so many fans, i'm surprised it has enemies.


dragon quest

durrrr

FF is super overratd, especially 6-x2

Franklin WI
01-16-2004, 11:19 PM
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who think FF2 is the worst in the series, and those who have never played it. Honestly, I refuse to vote in this poll, because I am not going to condemn FF3 along with FF2. Why are they combined? They are exceedingly dissimilar! It would make more sense to combine numbers 1 and 3!

msdmoney
01-18-2004, 03:52 AM
Err yeah, as someone who has played every final fantasy on that list, finished them all, and even the final fantasty games not on the list, i'm going to say, everyone that thinks All the FF's suck...

Go play your sega pico's and eat some animal crackers, because it's time for bedtime you video game n00bs.

Final Fantasy has Awed gamers for years, and will for years to come, it IS the king of RPG's, no other RPG series has pulled in so many fans, i'm surprised it has enemies.
.

Well I'm sorry, I am just a lowly video game noob who wasn't awed for years by the final fantasy series. Plain and simple I consider random battles to be just lazy game design. This creates little atmosphere around each character/enemy you encounter (not sure if they still do this as I gave up after 8 ). Plus I can't stand the more recent "complete an objective get a cgi movie cutscene as your reward" idea. Feels like I am watching a movie not playing a game. FF7 really felt like this for me and after that, besides playing part of FF8 I pretty much gave up on the series. Not sure why you attacked non final fantasy fans DMfunk, seems like nobody in this thread had slammed the series, just said what game in the series was their least favorite.

Okay now back to my Sega pico and animal crackers, even though its past my bedtime.

onealz
01-20-2004, 10:53 PM
FFX-2 is so girlish...It looks like Sailormoon series or Charlie's Angels...

g-l-p
01-21-2004, 03:56 AM
I found Final Fantasy 5, 8, 10 (and it's sequel), to be quite mediocre. The worst of the bunch is the unforgivable Final Fantasy 2 for the NES.

Medium_Pimpin
01-21-2004, 04:10 AM
ff8 was the worst for me, it took me so long to beat it, because i felt obliged to, not happy to. It was such a chore and a bore. I know hardcore FF people who gave up on the series after 8. 9 was a breeze, but entertaining nonetheless, some may call it a step backwards... but anything is a step forwards from 8.

rickybee2003
01-31-2004, 02:32 PM
I totally agree with ScrubKing, FF8 was to much B/S talking that didn't have anything to do with the story. OOOOH battle for 3 minutes talk for 30.
that's dumb. However, i think part 9 was the best.
I don't ever judge a game by graphics, it's all about game play. so no the graphics is not my excuse. I actually liked the story alot and til this day is my favorite FF game. The chibi-like characters were also a good change back when it came out.

godhatesjustyou
02-06-2004, 04:53 AM
At first, I thought FFX-2 would be better than FFX, all because of the job system. I know I was naive and that I didn't read up about what kind of job system there was, and man, did I get screwed over. I went out and bought this damned game, and was totally disappointed after I learned how the gameplay went. So yeah, FFX-2 has my vote.

Mr. Anderson
02-06-2004, 07:37 PM
FFVII was the first RPG I ever played, so I'm bound to biased towards it. It gets my vote as the greatest, I love the futuristic setting, but FFVIII went a little too far with it. FFXI was way overated, the story wasn't that great, and I didn't like the characters, even Vivi. Nothing else in a video game has made me cry like when Aeris died. I stared at the screen blankly while tears rolled down my face. The only game thats even come close to matching that kind of emotion is FFX, with the Tidus and Yuna scene. But I do agree that Tidus should has a voicebox implant, and Yuna talks like she needs a good drag of an asthma inhaler. And Auron is a god damned bad ass. Straight up. So FFVIII gets my vote as the worst.

stocker08
03-04-2004, 11:29 PM
wow, people dislike ff8, hmm

Mr_hockey66
03-04-2004, 11:36 PM
x_2 is terrable. Singing a nd dancing. buh waste of 50 bucks! Tradin next! This game should be burned! Make a second game and didn't make it of vii what were they thinkin! VII ruled!

starmask2k3
03-05-2004, 07:15 PM
Well the worst is definitly Mystic Quest, why its not on the list I'll never know.

MQ was a bare bones RPG that's story was very Cliche, even by early 90's standards, not only that, but it was incredibly easy, with no challenge what-so-ever.

GuilewasNK
03-05-2004, 07:53 PM
I'm surprised the Final Fantasy games for the old monochrome Gameboy weren't on the list...

Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Legend III

Mystic Quest was designed to be a RPG for newbies. It was one of the first that I recall playing (unless you count Zelda on NES which I do. If you don't, thats another argument for another time). Compared to other Final Fantasies it falls short, but taken for what it is, its not that bad.

alongx
03-05-2004, 08:04 PM
i really, really, really hate ff7, but ff8 takes the cake, so to speak, when it comes to shitty final fantasy games.

magilacudy
03-05-2004, 08:06 PM
I agree with Uncle Jesse about FF8, but not about 7, I thought it had some charm.

Quackzilla
03-08-2004, 12:45 PM
FFX had so many cutscenes it was impossible to play.

c
03-24-2004, 03:10 AM
Since the games on the list include the Japanese-only FF3, my guess is that we're talking about the Japanese games only. Mystic Quest was developed for America, and was released in Japan later. FFAdventure/Legend games had nothing to do with Final Fantasy in Japan, and did not have "Final Fantasy" in the title.

I think that's why those games weren't included. Or maybe it was just an oversight; whatever.

Anyway, my vote goes harshly towards FFX-2 for destroying the class system and completely killing the dignity of the series. My second runner-up was FF1, as I found that game very boring and frustrating. Why:
"Welcome to the cave, Light Warriors!"
"Oh thanks, I-"
"ENEMY casts SLEEP"
"(Player waits for everyone to die)"
.... whee!!

GuilewasNK
03-24-2004, 03:19 PM
my guess is that we're talking about the Japanese games only. Mystic Quest was developed for America, and was released in Japan later. FFAdventure/Legend games had nothing to do with Final Fantasy in Japan, and did not have "Final Fantasy" in the title.


I doubt that this topic is JUST about the Japanese games because most people here play the english versions. I think 3 was thrown in because FFVI was called FFIII in the US.

tsheo
03-25-2004, 11:25 PM
if you didn't like 8's junction system you probably didn't understand it to well. after i figured it out it allowed my to give utimate cosumaztion of my guys. i guss some people like easy games were you don't have to use brain to level up your characters. 9 and 10 allowes for very little customization because in 10 your guys were along a set path and could not stray from that path untill very late in the game. 9 and 7 were kind of in the middle. games shouln't be judged so much on their storys because every body likes different things. i have palyed 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-2, fft, ct, cc and i like 8 the best.

moe11888
03-25-2004, 11:29 PM
My favorite is FF 8. My least favorite is FF X-2, its just too different.

c
03-25-2004, 11:38 PM
I doubt that this topic is JUST about the Japanese games because most people here play the english versions. I think 3 was thrown in because FFVI was called FFIII in the US.

If that were the case, FF6 wouldn't be in the list, since there would be two choices for the same game.

yellowaznboy
03-25-2004, 11:50 PM
FF1 = NES
FF2 = NES (JP)
FF3 = NES (JP)
FF4 = SNES (aka FF2 in America)
FF5 = SNES (JP)
FF6 = SNES (aka FF3 in America)

The rest everyone knows.

MorbidAngel4Life
03-30-2004, 04:18 AM
i am going to have to say that the final fantasys on the origional Game Boy are the worst. I have just started to play VIII and IX again, and i used to hate those 2 games, but now love them.

TiKi2
04-01-2004, 09:18 PM
poll should be Zelda vs. FF

I think FF sux IMO

b3b0p
04-03-2004, 10:51 AM
I'm surprised the Final Fantasy games for the old monochrome Gameboy weren't on the list...

Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Legend III

Mystic Quest was designed to be a RPG for newbies. It was one of the first that I recall playing (unless you count Zelda on NES which I do. If you don't, thats another argument for another time). Compared to other Final Fantasies it falls short, but taken for what it is, its not that bad.

Someone please correct cause I know this can't be right. But back in the day (NES/GB Days ~ Circa 1989 or so) I know, in fact I remember letting these game(s) just slide by me because they did not say "Squaresoft" they said "Sunsoft". And thought these were not true Square endorsed/developed final Fantasy games. BTW, this was before they were re-released later w/ square name on them (hence the legend and adventure attached to the name).

Nirvanaguy777
04-23-2004, 03:51 PM
FF:CC (final fantasy crystal chronicals) should be on this poll, so I can vote it as being the worst, I hate that game so much.

Blamo
05-04-2004, 02:09 PM
FFIX. Maybe it was just because it was such a dissapointment after the masterpiece that was FFVIII. Looking at the results of the poll, many ovbiously disagree with me, but whatever. FFIX didn't improve on anything that FFVIII did at all, in many regards it even took a step back. And... that tail... :-\

Alien Spider
05-06-2004, 03:48 PM
FFX. I'd like the 20+ hrs. I put into this game hoping it would get better back and put into something decent. Out of FFs 7-10, this was was the disappointment. I enjoyed all the others.

King Bahamut
05-20-2004, 12:27 PM
FF1 - god this game was boring as hell.

And the lone person who voted FF6 needs to go jump off of the Empire State Building.

bruce_pwns_j00
05-23-2004, 05:03 PM
i hate ff8

skcll
06-07-2004, 05:38 PM
FF4=the bane of my existence
FF5=average
FF6=awesome
FF7=just as good if not better
FF8=fun at first. then it gets really boring. and the battle system sucked.
FFTactics=meh... I hope it gets better
Vagrant Story= hey, it's the same world as tactics and FFXII. so it belongs here. it's looking good.

And those are all the FF's I've played. I just got FFX from Circuit City though.

And my favorite RPG of all time is Chrono Trigger. Chrono Cross had a story that was explained in the last 2 minutes before the boss battle by 3 characters and had too many characters.

FunkMachineX
06-09-2004, 09:57 PM
FF2 and 3 were garbage. FF10 shouldn't be paired with x-2. Thats like putting mario and dr.mario together. FF10 was my favorite

THE DARK KNIGHT
06-29-2004, 11:30 PM
I searched every post before writting this in hopes that someone else out there remembers how bad mystic quest was. I applaud you starmask. That game was a piece of sh*t. You could only follow a certain path like in mario 3 but worse, much worse. I really think that was the quickest I ever beat a game. I was pissed. Oh yeah, FFII and FFIII do [u]not belong in the same category. FFII was legend, and sits atop the snes library with super metroid (Joy!)

Zenithian Legend
07-01-2004, 03:03 AM
Alright, who's the jackass that voted for 6

Explosion
07-10-2004, 06:29 AM
all of the above :(

dj_paxis
07-13-2004, 02:07 AM
I would say FF 1, but I'll give Square slack since it was their first.

Personally, Square needs to make a FF with the gameplay/story of 6 and the cutscenes/graphics of 10. If 12 is anything like that... damn!

Give me more action and save the sappy drama for your momma. (ie: 8 and even 10)

FinalSword
10-22-2007, 11:28 PM
Aww, man... I joined this site just to comment on this...

Anyway, before I give my opinion, I want you to know some things. First of all, I own and have beaten almost every game made by square. I enjoy them all, simply for the diversity and story each game has to offer. One thing that is consistant in most games in the Final Fantasy (or in square games in general) is the storyline. They all made me sad, and a few made me cry.

First off, the ones I didn't like. Of course, I'd rather play the games I didn't like over most games anyday.

(I'm kind both ways on this one, so be nice...) Final Fantasy 8 - The story was great. Theres only one problem with this game... and thats the GF's. The system made you put waaaay too much faith into them, and most of the hard bosses were beat in a few shots by them. Too bad some of the bosses are impossible to kill with GF's alone, and that f'ed me over so much I actually had to restart the game. Fantastic.

Final Fantasy 9 - The story was decent, and so were the graphics. But it wasn't that fun to play, and half the time I spent figuring out what to do. Mostly because I refuse (in general anyway) to look at a walkthrough for a Final Fantasy game until I'm sure I've exorcized every way.

Final Fantasy X-2 - Oh my god. I don't know where to start with this one. It is annoying (Gullwings go!), too whore-ish, and too gay (well, it made me feel gay playing it...) for me to play. But the battle system and the fact that you could get different classes was great. The story was probably the worst out of every Square game (i.e. OH EM GEE I THINK ITS TIDUS!!). Even then, the story was amazing compared to other games, and the diversity this game had to offer was great. Though 3 playable main characters isn't exactly my idea of fun either. I beat it though, just because I wanted to see the ending. What a disgrace there. "Higher!!"

(This isn't on the list, but whatever, I have to rant!) Final Fantasy XI- What a sad exuse for the Final Fantasy name. It's one of the worst MMO's I've ever played. I love the PlayOnline thing tho, and I think it's the only reason I've payed for 2 months (plus the free month, so I've played this game 3 months...)

Oh, and just so everybody knows, I hate the direction Final Fantasy is going. Stop pushing realtime battles!! I hate them!! Do something like Grandia II if you must, but I love turn-based!

P.S. I have played the original Final Fantasy games in Japanese (actually, I'll probably end up buying a Famicom and importing them eventually...) and I don't like 1 and 2. I just don't. They don't have the epic story there, even if they are fun.

Final Fantasy has given me high requirements to what I expect in a game, and very few non-square games satisfy them very well anymore.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Apossum
10-22-2007, 11:29 PM
in before FFVII

edit: damn! 4 years too late!

VAD3R or Fro
10-22-2007, 11:38 PM
X-2.

hankmecrankme
10-22-2007, 11:40 PM
FF2. The only one I haven't beaten, but I'm about halfway through and while I don't think it's bad, it's definitely the weakest. The only FF I haven't played is FFXI, because it's online only.

Dezuria
10-22-2007, 11:42 PM
Final Fantasy X.

Seriously, we went from FF4 and FF6 stories about epic stuff, to a story about a sports hero who goes on a linear adventure with his stupid friends, including one who throws a freakin sports ball for an attack. Come on.

FF7 was good, FF8 was not-so-good, and FF9 was pointless. FFX2 was a joke.

Nothing will ever touch FF4 anf FF6 (2 and 3) on the SNES in my eyes. Best stories and music.

Janaak
10-22-2007, 11:49 PM
I'm surprised the Final Fantasy games for the old monochrome Gameboy weren't on the list...

Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Legend III

Mystic Quest was designed to be a RPG for newbies. It was one of the first that I recall playing (unless you count Zelda on NES which I do. If you don't, thats another argument for another time). Compared to other Final Fantasies it falls short, but taken for what it is, its not that bad.

Even though they have FF branded on, they are either Mana or SaGa games so they should not be included.

Janaak
10-22-2007, 11:52 PM
(This isn't on the list, but whatever, I have to rant!) Final Fantasy XI- What a sad exuse for the Final Fantasy name. It's one of the worst MMO's I've ever played. I love the PlayOnline thing tho, and I think it's the only reason I've payed for 2 months (plus the free month, so I've played this game 3 months...)

That's too bad... One of the MMO's in which strategy & team work actually work IMHO, and you think it's bad... Probably why I hate WOW since it's a grindfest to actually get somewhere. That and the fact it gets old... quick.

jer7583
10-23-2007, 12:14 AM
Final Fantasy 2 is the only correct answer. Why you grouped it with the superb Final Fantasy 3 that introduced the job system the series has used time and time again is beyond me.

And the game boy Legend games are amazing. They're SaGa games, yes, but I played the heck out of them back then, as they were awesome for portable RPGs.

Rei no Otaku
10-23-2007, 12:15 AM
Final Fantasy 8.

Yes, FF2 is worse than it but I was expecting it. I had already heard FF2 was bad and I had braced for the impact. FF8 was like being knocked out from behind and gang raped.

jer7583
10-23-2007, 12:25 AM
if this was a most disappointing thread you'd be right, but it's worst. Not even the music is redeemable about FF2. FF8 at least had a quality soundtrack. Better than many others in the series.

And X-2 is worthy just for being silly and having the best active battle system of the entire series, because it was fast and no bullshit.

-Never4ever-
10-23-2007, 12:53 AM
Wow, this sure takes me back to the good ole days of CAG :cry:

tehweezner
10-23-2007, 12:56 AM
of the ones i've played X-2 is the worst. i haven't played 1,2,3

the thing that bugged me the most about IX was you couldn't buy ethers. wtf.

willardhaven
10-23-2007, 01:00 AM
I am suprised so many people disliked IX.

It had a fun/simple job system, a great chocobo minigame, fun bosses and a nice exploration system (no mindless X pushing). The atmosphere in that game was nearly flawless.

Apossum
10-23-2007, 01:05 AM
Wow, this sure takes me back to the good ole days of CAG :cry:


even ddf seemed civilized compared to some of today's mutant breed fanboys. Man, things were peaceful before the next gen kicked in. :roll: :lol:

btw1217
10-23-2007, 01:13 AM
This must be which Final Fantasy game was the BEST, cause FF8 is in the lead.

crazytalkx
10-23-2007, 01:18 AM
IX, easily

crystalklear64
10-23-2007, 01:25 AM
Um.. 10-2, however 10 was great so I voted for 1.

The Crotch
10-23-2007, 02:20 AM
Wow, talk about ancient. If the thread creator was still around, I would tell him the poll was flawed for lumping mediocre (FFTA) in with awesome (FFT), and for not having Mystic Quest.

Anyway, I can't choose. XIII and IX were both exercises in tedium. Come to think of it, I haven't really enjoyed a Final Fantasy since Tactics. Everything from IV to Tactics was absolutely fantastic, but nothing much before or after those...

And for the inevitable dumbass: complaining about FFVII does not make you a badass. You don't have to put up "flame shields". Get over it. People care every bit as much about your opinion as you do about mine.

SL4IN
10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
I personally don't know, but I've heard it numerous times that VIII was the worst story wise with II being the worst gameplay mechanic wise.

The Crotch
10-23-2007, 02:40 AM
Actually, my problems with VIII were almost all in the mechanics. I could live with Squall being Squall if I didn't have to spend two minutes going through menus just to cast Cure - which actually lowered my max HP because of the "junctions".

jer7583
10-23-2007, 04:13 AM
yeah the junction and draw stuff was a bad idea. I do think that the game gets a bad rap for following in FFVII's wake. Any game that was made after that behemoth was likely to disappoint many newcomers to the series.

And the Crotch is right. Disliking VII does not make you a badass and does not equal breaking the rules. All it means is you have no soul. ;) Actually that's only true if you hate FFIX.

QueenImadollar
10-23-2007, 05:13 AM
Out of all of them, Final Fantasy X dissapointed me the most.

orimental
10-23-2007, 05:23 AM
I loved VIII. It was personally my favorite one out of the series. Although that could change if I ever get to finishing XII. But since my PS2 died last winter, I'll have to settle for the first 11. If XI was an available choice, it would be my pick.

Rei no Otaku
10-23-2007, 11:16 AM
I personally don't know, but I've heard it numerous times that VIII was the worst story wise with II being the worst gameplay mechanic wise.
That's about right. The junction system in VIII did suck, but nowhere near as broken as II's gameplay. It was the story in VIII that made my head explode. Everything from Squall's emo BS, to the gaping plotholes, to the tacked on love story, to the deus ex machina (same orphanage, wtf!?) all just came together to form a trainwreck of epic proportions.

Also it had nothing to do with VII for me. Yes, I'm one of those people who didn't think VII was that good. I liked it, but definitely didn't think it was a great game. I haven't really liked a FF since IV.

MarioColbert
10-23-2007, 03:37 PM
Isn't it kind of unfair to put Tactics on this list? It's not really a Final Fantasy game at all...


EDIT: I tried to hold back, but I can't... The Materia system in VII is stupid, easy, and utterly backwards from what an RPG system ought to be. I'll agree with VIII being one of, if not the, worst game in the series, but at least the Junction System prevented you from FFVII's EVERYONE IS A MAGE syndrome, since everyone can learn any spell in the game, ever.

Having said that, from X and on, you can't customize jack shit, though you must go through the actions all the same... RPG, my ass.

Surferflames
10-23-2007, 03:40 PM
I voted 9 because it's the only one I started and refuse to finish. It's the only RPG I've ever hit the "you should have saved sooner because now you're fucked and trapped" issue.

I disliked 7 too. I'm happy it exists, as it propelled the genre a bit, but it does nothing for me. 8 was great, 12 was amazing.

cochesecochese
10-23-2007, 05:04 PM
FF8 with FF7 a damn close second. FF2 would be next in line. I stopped playing after 10(so, no x-2, 11 or 12) but am considering taking the dive into 12 if I can make some segway into my backlog.

FF Tactics is my favorite far and away.

jer7583
10-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Isn't it kind of unfair to put Tactics on this list? It's not really a Final Fantasy game at all...


EDIT: I tried to hold back, but I can't... The Materia system in VII is stupid, easy, and utterly backwards from what an RPG system ought to be. I'll agree with VIII being one of, if not the, worst game in the series, but at least the Junction System prevented you from FFVII's EVERYONE IS A MAGE syndrome, since everyone can learn any spell in the game, ever.

Having said that, from X and on, you can't customize jack shit, though you must go through the actions all the same... RPG, my ass.

I thought FFX provided the perfect ability to take your characters where you want on the sphere grid while still keeping distinct roles for them for the parts of the game where it mattered. Really the best of both. The battles also necessitated this design since many enemies had a specific character's ability as a weakness. The need for deep customization also was reduced since you could bring in any character at any time in battle, making battles more about the group, rather than having to focus on 3-4 characters and let the others rot, like happens in almost every other FF game.

MarioColbert
10-23-2007, 05:18 PM
I thought FFX provided the perfect ability to take your characters where you want on the sphere grid while still keeping distinct roles for them for the parts of the game where it mattered. Really the best of both. The battles also necessitated this design since many enemies had a specific character's ability as a weakness. The need for deep customization also was reduced since you could bring in any character at any time in battle, making battles more about the group, rather than having to focus on 3-4 characters and let the others rot, like happens in almost every other FF game.

I will admit that FFX had potential to do that. However, the Sphere Grid involved very few cross-roads - there was no way to actually "take your characters" places - it was more or less a linear progress, utterly devoid of decision-making, and even once you had a choice, the pathways provided no variety.

Don't believe me? Load up your old FFX file, and see how your guys progressed. Do it again, and try something different?

You know what you'll see you're missing from the get go? That Lvl. 3 Orb that would let you go elsewhere.

gamegal
10-25-2007, 01:03 AM
Thinking about it Vivi has to be the most cheapest character in all the entire series. By logic she is just a blackmage sprite. Think about it.

Then there is FF8 that made absolutely no sense besides the apocoolypse and millenium.

Lets not forget about FF7 that promised so many things but failed in may areas.

Lastly the PS2 games that had speech.

FF stop being fun when it wented to 3d and then when they had speech.

Final Fantasy 11 was the worst Final Fantasy game. It had network play, races, and add-on packs. The only thing worst then FF11 is the new Shadowrun.

DQT
10-25-2007, 01:39 AM
FF2 for me was the worst.There was no explanation at all for why Leon betrayed the party who he supposedly lived with for all of his life. The balance of enemies was also way off in that game.

FF9 was solid but the I didn't feel the the whole game was greater than the sum of its parts. Towards the end I felt like I was obligated to finish it, rather than because I wanted to. Also I missed a whole bunch of crap that I can't go back and get.

The Crotch
10-25-2007, 01:54 AM
You know, I didn't really hate the concept of the Junction system. How could I? It's pretty much just a more complex version of FFVI's Espers. And since I like needless complexity and love FFVI, I should have really like the Junctions. But it just ended up being an absolute pain to fight with - not use, fight with - the system.

Find (invisble) draw point. Pause game. Select character. Set him to "draw". Unpause. Draw magic. Go into menu. Select character. Set him to "magic". Assign spell to specific stat. Fight. Use spell and watch the stat fall. Play more FFVII.

Osoheil
10-25-2007, 02:37 AM
FF8 was my favorite. I have beaten it more than once. I have also beat 7 a couple of times. I beat 4 5 and 6 once, 9 once, and 10 once. I have also beaten FFT a couple times and FFTA once.

My least favorite was 1. I prefer dragon warrior to it.

I guess I was unjaded enough with 8 that the story overrode the somewhat annoying draw system.

I find it interesting how when I was younger I could stand bad games just because I loved games, later on I became extremely jaded after playing so many games and would touch nothing but the best, then I learned paitence and developed a complex for forcing myself to complete a game that otherwise frustrated me. I am better because of it, some games just need a chance.

What does the future hold?

Why is FF12 not on the list? Do people just disqualify it because it is not "final-fantasy-ee" enough?

The Crotch
10-25-2007, 02:48 AM
12 isn't on the poll because this is an ancient thread some jerk made rise from its gwave.

Also because most people thought it was actually a Star Wars movie based on the opening cinematic.

gamegal
10-25-2007, 09:26 AM
I didn't really hate the concept of the Junction system

FFIV

You all was asigned classes automatically and learned your abilities but if changing class you would lose all previous abilities.

FFV

You had crsytal pieces and anybody that had a certain crystal would gain that job class. After awhile you learn some of that job and then you could switch crystals and learn another job.

FFVI No summoners in this game but it was a random event triggered by item or even the gambler setzer class.

you all were automatically asigned a class you then was able junction espers or anything else threw magicite where you will learn various magic abilities afterwards. Kefka also junctioned himself in the game.

FFVII

Those crystals that was made from time to time have espers and other various magic abilities inside them. Threw them you could gain various call ups and magic abilities.

FFVIII

You only junctioned to gain defense and this is why the game was hard for so many people. You then had to withdraw abilities from animals and other various enemies who can use them naturally.

FFIX Summoning returns

You all was automatically asigned classes. You had armor that allowed to get various abilities, magic, and calls.

The Mana Knight
10-25-2007, 09:28 AM
In my situation, the very original FF, because it had no story. I didn't start playing FF until FFIV. Because of that, I just can't get into the first one.

As for 3D FF games, the worst for me is FFXII. I originally hated FFX-2 in some ways (although I absolutely loved X), but I like X-2 much more now after playing XII.

SpecTrE3353
10-25-2007, 09:30 AM
FF8 was so awful. Combat system was terrible, story was annoying as shit and why in the fuck do I have to drive a fucking building around the entire game? Absolute garbage. FF2, FF7 and FF10 are the ones I enjoyed the most.

Mookyjooky
10-25-2007, 09:40 AM
http://www.ff-fan.com/ffmq/images/box/full/01.jpg

SpecTrE3353
10-25-2007, 11:28 AM
http://www.ff-fan.com/ffmq/images/box/full/01.jpg

God I totally forgot about that one. You win hands down. Mystic Quest was so bad I think I managed to relegate all memory of it to the dark recesses of my mind...

Rei no Otaku
10-25-2007, 01:54 PM
In all fairness, Mystic Quest wasn't meant for people like us. It was an easy as hell RPG meant to introduce non-RPG players to the genre.

gigantor1313
10-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest

The Crotch
10-25-2007, 02:00 PM
FFIV

You all was asigned classes automatically and learned your abilities but if changing class you would lose all previous abilities.

FFV

You had crsytal pieces and anybody that had a certain crystal would gain that job class. After awhile you learn some of that job and then you could switch crystals and learn another job.

FFVI No summoners in this game but it was a random event triggered by item or even the gambler setzer class.

you all were automatically asigned a class you then was able junction espers or anything else threw magicite where you will learn various magic abilities afterwards. Kefka also junctioned himself in the game.

FFVII

Those crystals that was made from time to time have espers and other various magic abilities inside them. Threw them you could gain various call ups and magic abilities.

FFVIII

You only junctioned to gain defense and this is why the game was hard for so many people. You then had to withdraw abilities from animals and other various enemies who can use them naturally.

FFIX Summoning returns

You all was automatically asigned classes. You had armor that allowed to get various abilities, magic, and calls.I like how every sentence this poster makes, while not actually total nonsense, does not really have much to do with what we were talking about and/or is just plain wrong.

SpecTrE3353
10-25-2007, 02:38 PM
In all fairness, Mystic Quest wasn't meant for people like us. It was an easy as hell RPG meant to introduce non-RPG players to the genre.

If you had said "...meant to introduce mentalliy handicapped meekrats to the genre." I would have agreed ;)

gamegal
10-25-2007, 04:34 PM
FF:Mystic Quest is one of my all time favs.

The music, the characters, and the world itself was good enough to call a Final Fantasy game. They even had cid and a chocobo ( a chocobo sign ).

When you attack an enemy after awhile they start to show weakness. Never have I seen any other RPG game display this in US games.

The game also gives you the option of using bars or numbers. Allows you to summon confusion. You even have a rival that you can battle for most part of the game and a secret way to defeat the last foe.

To compare this game you should compare it to the original Final Fantasy game and not to mainstream of Sqaure Japan games.


In all fairness, Mystic Quest wasn't meant for people like us. It was an easy as hell RPG meant to introduce non-RPG players to the genre.

Well I disbelieve that. In Super Mario RPG they actually explained what a timed attack is to a critical hit.

FF:MQ was made the auctually make use of SqaureSoft USA. Since they do practically nothing besides Secret Of Evermore and more recently KIngdom Hearts.

Apossum
10-25-2007, 04:55 PM
I like how every sentence this poster makes, while not actually total nonsense, does not really have much to do with what we were talking about and/or is just plain wrong.


I like how this thread was revived after a few year death and kept on going as if nothing happened. :lol:

DQT
10-25-2007, 05:20 PM
I like how this thread was revived after a few year death and kept on going as if nothing happened. :lol:

Yeah wasn't this topic started half a dozen Final Fantasies ago (judging by the first post)?

Rei no Otaku
10-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Well I disbelieve that. In Super Mario RPG they actually explained what a timed attack is to a critical hit.
It even says it on the box: "Entry level role-playing game."

musha666
10-25-2007, 05:56 PM
I wouldve voted FF 11 but didnt see it listed. My least favorite was easily 10. Every year they go on the more videos they add to the games. RPG used to be games you play not sit and watch for half the game.

linkpwns
10-25-2007, 06:00 PM
I wouldve voted FF 11 but didnt see it listed. My least favorite was easily 10. Every year they go on the more videos they add to the games. RPG used to be games you play not sit and watch for half the game.

Final Fantasy XII was terrible...

gamegal
10-25-2007, 08:40 PM
It even says it on the box: "Entry level role-playing game."

Which kid is going read the little advertisment that is on any SNES box.

Did you really read the box and said "oh well I am a well exprienced level 9 bomber". No you did not you saw the words Final Fantasy glared at the armor and said something that had nothing to related to the series* then the parents just stared at the cover and thought of Highlander.

Yes I could not resist the armor.

* Of course in American nobody knew what was a Final Fantasy during this time.

Plinko
10-25-2007, 08:45 PM
The three who voted for Final Fantasy 6 must hate all that is good on earth.

Rei no Otaku
10-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Which kid is going read the little advertisment that is on any SNES box.

Did you really read the box and said "oh well I am a well exprienced level 9 bomber". No you did not you saw the words Final Fantasy glared at the armor and said something that had nothing to related to the series* then the parents just stared at the cover and thought of Highlander.

Yes I could not resist the armor.

* Of course in American nobody knew what was a Final Fantasy during this time.
That's hilarious. What you said was coherant, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the original point.

-Never4ever-
10-25-2007, 11:11 PM
In all fairness, Mystic Quest wasn't meant for people like us. It was an easy as hell RPG meant to introduce non-RPG players to the genre.

Well it did it's job pretty well, as it introduced me and my friends to real RPGs. Before hand, all we had to go on were action-RPGs, such as the Legend of Zelda series.

Regardless, it ties with FFII as hands-down the worst Final Fantasy of all time.

I like how this thread was revived after a few year death and kept on going as if nothing happened. :lol:

I cared, I did shed a tear for the old CAG. That and I noticed that Starmask actually produced a coherent post, then I realized that was actually me posting, under his name :lol:

Chacrana
10-26-2007, 01:34 AM
6. Definitely 6. Piece of shit...





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Well it's easy now that 2 and 3 are lumped together. They both suck. 1 sucks, too, but 2 sucks more and 3 is $40 and sucks, which is insulting. So... 2/3.

jer7583
10-26-2007, 02:58 AM
regalsin returns?

I still say 2. I need to get that abomination out of my house. I foolishly bought both FFs for PSP.

MSUHitman
10-27-2007, 04:05 AM
2 (with its stupid leveling system) and 3 (hey let's have mobs kill you in 2 hits after you leave the first level) make FF8 look like game of the decade.

cochesecochese
10-27-2007, 04:14 AM
Which kid is going read the little advertisment that is on any SNES box.

Did you really read the box and said "oh well I am a well exprienced level 9 bomber". No you did not you saw the words Final Fantasy glared at the armor and said something that had nothing to related to the series* then the parents just stared at the cover and thought of Highlander.

Yes I could not resist the armor.

* Of course in American nobody knew what was a Final Fantasy during this time.

Whit? We already had this schtick show up twice on the boards.

Nephlabobo
10-28-2007, 11:11 AM
FF 8 is possibly one of the worst RPGs ever made.

danked
10-28-2007, 02:59 PM
easy, FFX2 end of thread

lordwow
10-28-2007, 03:53 PM
Mystic Quest, FTL

Curly Spencil
03-01-2008, 12:41 PM
My favorite would have to be 8. Most people hated it because they didn't understand what they were doing when they had to junction magic. It required them to think (imagine that a game requiring you to think). Now i'm not saying this is why everyone hated it but everyone that i have talked to gave this as their reason.

As for worst, i would have to choose 9. I really just couldn't get into it.

And for the worst final fantasy games (in my opinion) not on this list are Final Fantasy 12 and Crystal Chronicles. Crystal Chronicles you just did the same thing over and over again. 12 i hated the story line.

leveskikesko
03-01-2008, 11:45 PM
I really don't understand the hate X gets.

Are FF fans afraid of innovation or something?

My favorite FF without a doubt.

The Mana Knight
03-01-2008, 11:50 PM
I absolutely loved FFX and it still remains to be one of my favorite games last gen. I didn't like it as much as FFVII or FFIX though, but it was definitely my third favorite.

I liked FFVIII more than most, but I didn't like some of the gameplay elements (such as finding parts for weapons, draw points, etc.). The soundtrack is still my 1st or 2nd favorite in the series and the storyline rocked.

Like I always say, FFVII is by far my favorite. I just love that game and every FFVII spin-off too.

darkcecil32
03-01-2008, 11:55 PM
fftactics advance i won't even acknowledge as being a square title. FF8/5 tie as being my least favorite of the core ff titles. The junction system in 8 pissed me off, and 5 was just a chore to play through to me. 5 still remains the only numbered FF game I haven't beaten. I hated how vague and ambiguous it was in finding where to go next. I got through about 80% of the game according to my friend who beat it, but i'm in no rush to ever go back and finish it.

Pylis
03-02-2008, 01:53 AM
FF8. No question. Worst plot twist ever. "You remember how our entire party grew up together in an orphanage but we all forgot about it because these GFs mess up our long term memory? Edea, one of our main enemies, raised us too! What are the odds of this? Haha! Look at me, I'm a dipshit cowboy." Fuck you, Square. Seriously. Fuck you.

Oh, and the GF system was broken as hell (you rarely needed to do anything other than summon shit), and "drawing" magic was a fucking colossal waste of time. FF7 was excellent, but FF8 let me down in virtually every aspect.

jer7583
03-02-2008, 11:09 AM
The only reason the Junction system is broken is because it allows you to buff your party without leveling in a game where the enemies' level and strength is based on your level. Play it right with junctions and you can crush bosses with a few normal attacks in FF8 regularly.

Drawing was enjoyable because it basically condensed the whole level grinding experience into a few battles. Instead of wandering and fighting lots of battles, you get a ton of spells from each battle and fight fewer.

As for the story elements, it was a cop-out, but also was alluded to in several places that GF caused memory loss. It's also not that much of a stretch that the people from the orphanage ended up in SeeD, since matron's husband started SeeD. Edea being controlled by a greater, hidden evil is a very typical JRPG stereotype that many games perpetuate. FF8 does have one of the weakest main villains in the series, I'll give you that. It's actually a lot like FF5's exdeath, this nebulous creature that comes out of nowhere from another dimension and suddenly you hate him. Give me Kefka or Sephiroth or even Sin anyday.

I'm replaying FF8 and I don't think it deserves the hate it gets. Most of that hate is the result of the huge changes made to the tone and gameplay after the hugely successful FF7 introduced so many new players with expectations built from FF7.

Dr Mario Kart
03-02-2008, 11:17 AM
I wonder how much of the front loaded-ness in the poll is due to some number of people not having played the earlier ones so much.

Dandeschain
03-02-2008, 02:06 PM
I don't think I'll ever understand the hate that VIII gets.

rodeojones903
03-02-2008, 02:09 PM
No question about it, 8 by a long shot.

dmaul1114
03-02-2008, 02:10 PM
Can't vote in the poll since 2/3 are lumped together as are X and X-2.

Problem is, of the ones I've played the worst is a toss up between 2 and X-2. I liked FFX, but hated X2. Hated FF2 but have never played 3.

Didn't care for 8 either.

Haven't played 3, 4, 5, 9, or 12.

HeadRusch
03-02-2008, 02:11 PM
This poll is missing the most important button of all:
All of them

The Crotch
03-02-2008, 02:14 PM
I wonder how much of the front loaded-ness in the poll is due to some number of people not having played the earlier ones so much.
I'm pretty sure I've played all of the lower number ones on this list in one form or another, but I gave them a bit of leeway due to their age. While I sure has hell wouldn't want to waste time playing FFI ever again, that's because it is outdated - I voted for FFIX because I found it hopelessly boring even when it was new.

I don't think I'll ever understand the hate that VIII gets.One word: draw.

rodeojones903
03-02-2008, 02:17 PM
One word: draw.

Yep.

dmaul1114
03-02-2008, 02:35 PM
Yep, the draw system sucked. I quit at the final boss. I just wasn't leveled up enough for it, and I didn't like the game enough to go level grind for a few hours to beat it.

samussiah
03-02-2008, 02:41 PM
why are FF I - V included in the poll, when they're on a completely different level than VI through X/XII?

jer7583
03-02-2008, 02:51 PM
Drawing is no different than wandering around the map level grinding, it's just more focused. I'd rather sit in one battle for 5-10 min drawing a spell that boosts your stats when junctioned, than wander the map for 20 min gathering AP in FF7. It's the same thing, just different ways of doing it.

fatbeer
03-02-2008, 02:58 PM
Final Fantasy 8 is one of the worst final fantasy games. The draw system, un-skipable gf attacks, dumb card trading rules and story is really weak. I love SpoonyOne review- it sums up the problems with this game.

NSFW due to language


http://spoonyexperiment.com/games/FF8/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1njLpZDfUCQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CiToL55zwRI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cwyb8_s63Sw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcWsS3WLcTk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOhnG9kLkF8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lr3DeuoXnQ8

Rei no Otaku
03-02-2008, 02:58 PM
The drawing system actually didn't bother me, even if it was broken as hell. It was that shitty story that put it over the top, and the fact that Squall is possibly the least likeable main character in any RPG.

mtgrungoblins
03-02-2008, 03:01 PM
It's not on the list, but "Mystic Quest" was pretty bad. FF8 ruined it though.

Mystic Quest should definitely be on the list. It was HORRIBLE.

kainzero
03-02-2008, 03:38 PM
I don't know why this was bumped from 2k3.

Anywho, anyone who's saying anything that's not FF2 is whack. FF2 is one of the worst RPGs ever made.

The battle system blows. The dungeons suck with their fake doors and empty rooms that force you into long battles. The map design is terrible, nothing's more fun than wandering a map and getting into a battle where you die right away. It has to be the most un-fun game ever.

Draw system? It's okay. You figure out early and spend battles drawing magic out of people, whatever. The battles become fast and you don't really care after a while. But not with FF2! No, you gotta beat up monsters (or yourself), and MAYBE level up stats. You don't even know if grinding is effective! How could you? Oh yeah, if you're not prepared with random levelling, monsters will beat the crap outta you. AWESOME.

8 / 9 / 10 have crappy stories and emo characters? At least the writing in a game was developed enough to where you could hate the stories. 2 had a complex story written like a 2nd grader. you don't know what's going on and if you didn't watch Star Wars you probably would never know anything that's going on.

MQ is too and "easy"? Well FF2 is tougher than anything because the game sucks. MQ is way more fun to play through. Even the writing is actually decent.

FF2 sucks.

Pylis
03-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Mystic Quest should definitely be on the list. It was HORRIBLE.

Mystic Quest isn't THAT bad, if you take it for what it was meant to be: an introductory, beginner's RPG for somebody unfamiliar with the genre. Yeah, it was extremely simplistic and had its fair share of problems, but at least it was still pretty fun. Oh, and the music was great, too.

Dead of Knight
03-02-2008, 05:10 PM
Most definitely FF12.

karmapolice
03-02-2008, 05:22 PM
I voted 8. Mainly due to the fact that I really couldnt stand the card game. I know it wasnt a major part of the game, but it made me feel as though they were trying to draw you in with gimmicks and sappy stories. My favorite FF was IX, but I seem to be one of few with that feeling.

edit- plus squall (that is the leads name in 8 right?) is a douche

samussiah
03-02-2008, 05:22 PM
final fantasy XII was the least FF-ish game. more like a PC dungeon crawler. right now i'm 80 hours into it, but the story isn't that engrossing. i thought VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X were all top notch, Final Fantasy VIII being my favorite; i've played it so many times because i love the junction system, the music, and the story.

jer7583
03-02-2008, 07:33 PM
To all complaning about GFs and Summons, I just played through FF7 and am most of the way through FF8 and in neither game did I summon more than 3 times. They're much more fun without relying on summons. In FF8, summons are almost useless except that Carbuncle gives you all reflect which is useful on a few bosses. You can do more damage faster with intelligent junctions than GFs.

whoknows
03-02-2008, 08:12 PM
I want to say Tactics Advanced but not normal tactics since that's actually supposed to be good.

bostonfrontier
03-02-2008, 08:21 PM
FF12 is by far the worst FF game..... it's battle system is like a MMORG.......hello Square, you guys already did FF11, no need to redo the same thing again

I_Am_ProZac
03-02-2008, 08:27 PM
FF8 was my favorite, mainly because I found the characters to be the most interesting in the series, and I didn't mind the battle system (which most people hate). The ending was kinda... awkward, and the story kinda plummeted on disc 3, but I still enjoyed.

FF12 is my least favorite, as the battle system was just annoying, and the story was... boring and drawn out. There wasn't anything in the story that really made me interested in it... ever.

As a whole though, I find the FF series to be only average as far as RPGs go. I've never found the stories to be absolutely intriguing, and that's what drives the RPG genre IMO.

hankmecrankme
03-02-2008, 09:53 PM
Break up FF2 and FF3 and I'd vote for 2. 2 wasn't very good.

I liked 12 a lot. Once I had my team set up into an automated machine of death, it was a blast.

Spades22
03-02-2008, 09:58 PM
FFX sucked...IX was my favorite by a landslide.

jlarlee
03-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Final Fantasy 8's junction system and magic system...prevented me from even getting into the game.

A very broken system

mykevermin
03-02-2008, 10:06 PM
It's a fanboy thing to say, but I love the series overall. Some aren't perfect, and others tried new things that just didn't work out so well (FF2's leveling system, FFVIII's draw system).

I think the worst is FF1. Not the NES version, not the GBA version, but the PSP version. It's embarrassing that SE wanted to sell you a prettified version of that game for $30. They added some nice stuff, but the core gameplay is the same (that is to say it's 20 years old). Had they bundled the remakes of 1 and 2 on the same UMD, it wouldn't be a problem. By itself, though, the PSP FF1 is a travesty. Strangely enough, the steep entree into FF2 (getting over the leveling frustration enough to get into the game and enjoy it) disappeared in the PSP version, and was my favorite revision by far.

I'd also throw up the DS remake of FFIII. Having played through the NES version, I simply prefer that as a piece of nostalgia. The slapped-on story was paper thin and did nothing for me, and the extras didn't really do it for me either.

I'm of the opinion that not all FF games are equal even when talking about different versions of the same title.

FFIX's story almost completely escapes me. I remember enjoying the game, but I can't recall moments from it the way I do the others. So for that, by default, makes it the "worst." But I'd still gladly play through it again.

Here's a question I'd like to see opinions on: what's the worst FF minigame? Blitzball, triple triad, the card game from FFIX? Something else? Chocobo races or the entire golden saucer area?

metalmat
03-02-2008, 10:07 PM
FF8 killed the series for me. I loved tactics.

dastly75
03-02-2008, 10:18 PM
Funny FFVIII is my favorite :lol:

zionoverfire
03-02-2008, 10:22 PM
FFX-2 was without a doubt the worst entry, but since it's bundled with FFX I'll give my vote to FF3 (DS). The story in that game is so craptastic and the combat so dull that even after owning a year and trying to play it half a dozen times I'll still only half way through.

PapiChullo
03-03-2008, 09:26 PM
Of the ones I've played, VIII is my least favorite. I wasn't a big fan of the draw system.

Dr Mario Kart
03-03-2008, 09:32 PM
10 killed the series for me. I'll never play a main line FF again.

lunatic_pandora
03-05-2008, 05:54 PM
X-2 was horrible. God. Fuck that game.

MarkMan
03-05-2008, 06:00 PM
The only one since IV I couldn't get into was VIII... I played through pretty much everything else...

I don't know if it was the system or what, it was just kinda meh for me...

hankmecrankme
03-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Here's a question I'd like to see opinions on: what's the worst FF minigame? Blitzball, triple triad, the card game from FFIX? Something else? Chocobo races or the entire golden saucer area?

Blitzball sucked hard. I hated it. I really liked Triple Triad and Tetra Master. I only did the chocobo races to get Knights of the Round, but having a chocobo that could go anywhere was cool.

Vinny
03-05-2008, 06:28 PM
FFX-2... it's an embarassment and pretty much signaled that Square was going down the drain.