CAGcast Production FAQ, Q&A, & Podcasting Tips

[CheapyD]

I got a lot of emails asking just how the CAGcast is produced so I've decided to put together this post, which is a work in progress.

Since both of us are in different locations, we talk to each other over Skype (http://www.skype.com).
We both record our own voices locally, direct from our microphones (rather than through Skype) using the following hardware and software:

Hardware

CheapyD
I use the Samson CO3U USB microphone (http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1905&brandID=2). I purchased the podcast pack because it comes with a shock-mount and stand. It also comes with a hard travel case, but the thing is so fucking big, I don't think I will ever use it. Cakewalk Sonar LE is included too, but I haven't bothered to figure out how to use it. I've also added a pop-filter as the mic is pretty sensitive. The nice thing about using a high-quality USB mic is that it doesn't require the use of an external mixing board. I liked this setup so much, I got one for the Shipwrecks. I record and edit on a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo iMac with 3GB RAM. One of the great things about the iMac is that it runs almost completely silent. Many PCs have noisy fans (like Wombat's) and this can be pretty annoying when it gets picked up by the mic.

http://www.samsontech.com/images/productimages/CO3U_Pak_Img-web.jpg (http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1905&brandID=2)

Wombat
As of CAGcast #133, Wombat is using a Macbook and a Zoom H2 USB Mic/Flash Recorder (http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H2-Portable-Stereo-Recorder/dp/B000VBH2IG/).
As of CAGcast #152, Wombat is using a Samson G Track USB Mic (http://www.amazon.com/Samson-Track-Microphone-Audio-Interface/dp/B0015MJE22/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1235948251&sr=8-1).
http://digital-lifestyles.info/copy_images/zoom-h2-recorder-lg3.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H2-Portable-Stereo-Recorder/dp/B000VBH2IG/)
Old setupWombat uses a 12 year old pro studio mic (model unknown) connected to his PC via a Yamaha 10/2 G Mixing Board (model discontinued).
He records on a p.o.s. Windows PC.

Yamaha 10/2 G Mixing Board
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM03/Content/Yamaha/PR/MG10-2-sm.jpg

Software

CheapyD
I use Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) (PC/Mac - Free) to record my voice directly from the Samson CO3U. It's a solid and easy to use (and free) audio editing program. After we record the show, Wombat sends me his local recording of his voice and then I edit the two tracks together in Audacity. I use various Audacity effects (Noise Reduction, Leveller) to clean up the audio if needed. The general content is not edited. I export the audio as a 56kbps, 44khz, mono mp3 file. The CAGcast (and CAG Foreplay) is hosted at Libsyn (http://www.libsyn.com).

When we do a live show, I also use Audio Hijack Pro (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/) (Mac - $32) and Soundflower (http://www.cycling74.com/products/soundflower) (Mac - Free) to route my mic and additional audio clips which I play with a virtual cart program called Sound Byte (http://www.blackcatsystems.com/software/soundbyte.html) (PC/Mac - $39).


Wombat
As of CAGcast #133, Wombat also uses Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/).



Equipment Recomendations
If you are just starting out (with no audience) and money is tight, there is really no reason to invest hundreds of dollars in a podcasting setup. I'd recommend using Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) (free) for your recording and editing duties and making due with a current mic if you already own one (and its not completely awful). If you are able to build an audience, you can then decide if its worth investing in a better microphone, in which case I definitely recommend the Samson line of USB condensor mics (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&keywords=samson%20c03u&tag=cheapassgam08-20&index=blended&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325). The prices on these are consistently falling so keep on 'em.
Also, check out the Zoom H2 USB Mic/Flash Recorder (http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H2-Portable-Stereo-Recorder/dp/B000VBH2IG/). It's about $180 now and functions as a hand held recordable as well as a USB mic. It's a pretty impressive device.


Hosting
The CAGcast and CAG Foreplay podcasts are hosted at Libsyn (http://www.libsyn.com). Their $12/month plan should be fine for your standard 1 x week audio podcast.


General Podcast Tips
1) Prepare: Write up an outline of the topics you want to cover, and the order you want to cover them in. This is not a script, but a road map of the show. Jot down brief notes so you don't forget key points.
2) Energize: If you don't sound interested, your audience won't be interested either. Keep those energy levels high.
3) Produce: Sound quality is important. If the hosts are not at the same location, I recommend using Skype for your communication needs. Each host should record their own voice directly (not through Skype). The audio can then be mixed together afterwards. I use Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) as its free, powerful, and stable. Wear headphones during post production so you can tell if you have a decent mix.

[VanillaGorilla]

I find it easier just to use a radio station to record my (dead) podcast. :lol:

I give you guys a lot of credit for spending so much money to put on a podcast. I personally don't listen, but still, :applause:

[yukine]

I like how you have all this fancy equipment, where as Wombat is 'casting like a hobo.

[VanillaGorilla]

I like how you have all this fancy equipment, where as Wombat is 'casting like a hobo."I am called Ham, because I enjoy Ham radio!"

[E*Master]

I use a PVC 175 Vestax DJ mixer from my decks to regulate the audio:
http://bavasmusic.com.au/store/images/images_med/pcv175_vestax.jpg
You can buy this thing off ebay for cheap

Sony F-v220 Mic
http://www.shopbot.ca/i-ca/2007/3/1136590926_small.jpg

10 bucks off ebay and soudnforge to record

But most of all it's my soundcard that does the audio processing:
http://www.elitepc.com/images/audigy2-platinum.jpg

[jakehoss]

Good Thread Cheapy. wombat is on mad podcast hobo jones.

[mik]

We use this:

http://s93927185.oneandoneshop.co.uk/shopdata/0050_Electronic+Aids/0007_Digital+Voice+Recorders/images/DS30-medres_250x448.png

That's right--we're that high-tech.

[olster2]

yea thanks but I cant seem tp get it working. Can you give a step to step guid on how to record over skype?:bouncy:

[CheapyD]

yea thanks but I cant seem tp get it working. Can you give a step to step guid on how to record over skype?:bouncy:
You each record yourselves locally from your microphones. Skype is only the means for you two to talk to each other. It has nothing to do with the recording process.

[E*Master]

You can actually record conversations in skype using a program called pamela. Not sure what the audio quality is like tho.

[olster2]

You each record yourselves locally from your microphones. Skype is only the means for you two to talk to each other. It has nothing to do with the recording process.
aaaaaa that makes sence lol how silly of me :) thanks it works fine now :D BIG UP CHEAPY

[aerotive]

The local recording goes a long way towards improving sound quality. I listen to several other supposedly professional podcasts that just use the raw Skype recording. Which is fine until, almost invariably, Skype craps out.

[usickenme]

Cheapy-

Have you ever used Garageband to record the cast? I use it for my podcast. They have premade podcast settings and some decent sound effects.

(speak of other podcasts how about giving a shout-out to the CAGs who do their own shows?)

[CheapyD]

Cheapy-

Have you ever used Garageband to record the cast? I use it for my podcast. They have premade podcast settings and some decent sound effects.

(speak of other podcasts how about giving a shout-out to the CAGs who do their own shows?)

I've tried Garageband, but I like Audacity better. IMHO, Audacity has better effects, including a crucial one that Garageband is missing, Noise Reduction. Wombat's PC has a very noisy fan. Since, I got an iMac, I no longer need to use NR on my audio.

I've been using Leveller lately to try and equalize the audio levels. I think it has been helping.

[mik]

Whatever you're doing is working, because the CAGcast is always one of the cleanest-sounding podcasts I listen to.

[Simon D I]

I agree with Mik; when I first started listening to Podcasts, I download a shitload of gaming ones at once, but the one that caught my ear at first was the CAGcast because it was actually well-recorded, and didn't make my ears bleed like a lot of other p.o.s.-casts!

So keep up the good work!

[dastly75]

Hey what do ya know, I have the Samson CO3U mic as well. I don't podcast though.

[gunm]

Agreed that the audio quality of the CAGcast is among the best I've heard. Thanks for the thread--it's always cool to get a behind-the-scenes look at things I'm interested in.

[QforQ]

We use this:

http://s93927185.oneandoneshop.co.uk/shopdata/0050_Electronic+Aids/0007_Digital+Voice+Recorders/images/DS30-medres_250x448.png

That's right--we're that high-tech.
We bought one of those last summer when I was at a convention and we wanted to do interviews on the fly for a radio station I run. The audio quality is very good (recorded through a Shure mic that was plugged into the recorder) and it was really easy to get the sound files off the little recorder. I recommend it, though I haven't used it a TON since then. Hoping to usre it more this year.

[Kuroi Kaze]

I, much like Cheapy, have found Audacity + Noise Reduction + Local Recording + Skype to be a good method for doing podcasts.

I don't have the fancy mic but I think we're doing okay.

[Darkside Hazuki]

I'll recommend the Snowball USB mic from Blue (http://www.bluemic.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Products&file=index&prod_id=18&POSTNUKESID=a99e0713be83b4252427f4e0e6173171). I've used it for recording vocals and sound effects (through Garageband) in a very noisy environment, and it performs like a champ. And it's less than a hundred bones.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1712/snowballtakealookfrontrx8.gif

[Simon D I]

I'll recommend the Snowball USB mic from Blue (http://www.bluemic.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Products&file=index&prod_id=18&POSTNUKESID=a99e0713be83b4252427f4e0e6173171). I've used it for recording vocals and sound effects (through Garageband) in a very noisy environment, and it performs like a champ. And it's less than a hundred bones.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1712/snowballtakealookfrontrx8.gif

Wow, that actually looks like something I may need...so if you have it in the middle of a table, with people all around it, will it pick everyone up equally?

[yukine]

Anyone test out the quality of the Rock Band mic yet? :D

Might be just right for a budding podcast.

[Simon D I]

Anyone test out the quality of the Rock Band mic yet? :D

Might be just right for a budding podcast.

Yes, actually! That's what I use (at the moment) on my show!

It's great for 1-2 people, but if you have a 3rd person (like I just did) it's hard for it to pick them up from that angle.

Also, if you're having a loud, infuriated rant ( like I just did ), the high sound levels will sound pretty nasty.

But for a good, clean, unidirectional mic, definitely use the Rock Band one! :bouncy:

[woodcan]

Yes, actually! That's what I use (at the moment) on my show!

It's great for 1-2 people, but if you have a 3rd person (like I just did) it's hard for it to pick them up from that angle.

Also, if you're having a loud, infuriated rant ( like I just did ), the high sound levels will sound pretty nasty.

But for a good, clean, unidirectional mic, definitely use the Rock Band one! :bouncy:

I have to say your podcast sounds pretty damn good for using the RockBand mic. Occasionally on the past few episodes there's been this low-volume electronic voice double occasionally that I wonder if it is a hardware or software issue.

[t3disciple]

Great thread,

With the wealth of info I know the CAGs have I thought I would throw this out.

Does anyone know where I can get some Public Domain/royalty free video game sound effects or music from old tv shows and cartoons. I have been googleing and all I can find is really weak homemade sound and sound effects. Any Ideas
?

Disciple

[Simon D I]

Great thread,

With the wealth of info I know the CAGs have I thought I would throw this out.

Does anyone know where I can get some Public Domain/royalty free video game sound effects or music from old tv shows and cartoons. I have been googleing and all I can find is really weak homemade sound and sound effects. Any Ideas
?

Disciple

Hmmm, man, I was just researching for ya for a few minutes...and I can't find anything that doesn't cost some kind of fee. I mean, you can obviously go to Limewire or something like that, but in terms of an organized directory of royalty-free sound effects, I don't know if there is one :(

Anyways, let us know if you find something!


P.S., Thanks, Woodcan, for the kind words :)
I think that was SKYNET that was producing horrible background noise on the show!:bomb:


And Disciple, what's the name of your podcast?

[t3disciple]

We are still in the pre production phase so we have not nailed down a name yet. We have all the software and hardware needed to do a cast and i am editing an intro now. Lot's of work but lots of fun. It is going to be a video game podcast. We are a Christian gaming team kinda like Hardcore Christian(they obviously have been around alot longer than we have) we will also be concentrating on that aspect of our lives too.

I remember in one of the past CAG casts Cheapy mentioned where he got some of the cool soundclips, I wish I remembered what episode. I have been downloading them and listening but have not found it yet, It was in the past 3 or 4 months if memory serves.

[Simon D I]

We are still in the pre production phase so we have not nailed down a name yet. We have all the software and hardware needed to do a cast and i am editing an intro now. Lot's of work but lots of fun. It is going to be a video game podcast. We are a Christian gaming team kinda like Hardcore Christian(they obviously have been around alot longer than we have) we will also be concentrating on that aspect of our lives too.

I remember in one of the past CAG casts Cheapy mentioned where he got some of the cool soundclips, I wish I remembered what episode. I have been downloading them and listening but have not found it yet, It was in the past 3 or 4 months if memory serves.


Hey, bro, any luck with a sounc clip directory yet? Any updates on your 'cast? I'd like to hear it, dude!

[Simon D I]

We use this:

http://s93927185.oneandoneshop.co.uk/shopdata/0050_Electronic+Aids/0007_Digital+Voice+Recorders/images/DS30-medres_250x448.png

That's right--we're that high-tech.

Hey, bro. How much does something like this go for? I'm planning on going to PAX and any other convention I can hit up, and this would be perfect!

[twen]

While recording local audio may be the best quality wise, my show last week featured 2 people on cell phones (Simon because his internet was shitting up a storm, and Matt because he hasn't gotten a mic yet), 2 cases in which local audio would be impossible. I also edit the show ALOT for timing, Pamela gives me audio as clean as Skype can get it.

*shrugs* works for me.

[fettouhi]

I can say that pamela works great and its easy use it if you gonna do skype

[monkeychunkuk]

I can say that pamela works great and its easy use it if you gonna do skype

its ok if your local

Me and chris use skype to chat like "cheapy" says
But as Chris is also in Japan and im in the uk skype recording is out of sync and offers more problems than help.

* We use audacity to record separate mp3s files
* Then i run them through mixcraft to eq the voices a little
* I edit the voice chat and run through levelator to match voice volume
* I then add chat to a new audacity project and add stereo mp3 music
* When it sounds good though headphones i convert into a mp3

We have a few things that hold us back distance being one,
i use a logi tech usb head set and im not sure what Chris uses
,im on pc and he is on a mac so files can be hard to share,convert


At the start we used cheaper headsets and used pamela
but the time it took to edit out bad buzz,crackles and skype lag
it really isnt worth it we got to a better standard of podcast quality
by taking cheapys advice cheers mate.

steve AKA monkeychunkuk

[Tengaport]

question for you Cheapy - do you use a sound queue or tone at the beginning of your recording to sync up the separate audacity files?

just curious

thanks

[1modernboy]

Great thread, Cheapy! I record a pair of regular podcasts, one for my own site and one of the GeekDad blog at Wired.com, so I'm always interested to hear how other podcasters do their thing. I currently use a Behringer Xenyx 502 mixer and a Kustom DM-910 mic with a hefty metal screen pop filter, but I'm looking to step belatedly into the 20th century and snag a USB recording solution soon.

Audacity really is the shit as far as frugal podcasting goes; I've been using it for years and have really come to love the product. Another freebie that's easy to recommend is Conversion Network's Levelator (http://www.conversationsnetwork.org/levelator). I use a ton of music in my show so there's always a lot of dB differences from track to track, and that app autolevels things out pretty well.

And of course you can't talk podcasting without talking Skype. It really is an extremely useful tool for interviews and multi-host recording.

[CheapyD]

i
We have a few things that hold us back distance being one,
i use a logi tech usb head set and im not sure what Chris uses

I think there is a slight delay when recording over USB, so if one of you is using USB and the other is not, that will cause sync problems

question for you Cheapy - do you use a sound queue or tone at the beginning of your recording to sync up the separate audacity files?Nope, just use my ear.

[MrsBeetlebot]

Hey thanks for those tips Cheapy! My husband and I are wanting to start our own podcast about video games, focusing on the horror genre of games and movies and comics. Any tips would be very appreciated! Keep up the awesome work on the CagCast!

[Friktion321]

So I know this is a pretty old thread, but CheapyD, I was wondering if you could tell us who is hosting your podcasts. Sorry if you've mentioned this before and I missed it.

[repete]

audacity

[CheapyD]

So I know this is a pretty old thread, but CheapyD, I was wondering if you could tell us who is hosting your podcasts. Sorry if you've mentioned this before and I missed it.

http://www.libsyn.com

I'll add that to the OP.

[Jrittmayer]

I have a question, the "CAG's on News" Intro that was used before, was that a remix of the Speed Grapher Theme song?

[CheapyD]

I have a question, the "CAG's on News" Intro that was used before, was that a remix of the Speed Grapher Theme song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudEttJlw3s