Government tells soldiers to pee in their food

[Lootr2Core]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5479865/

LONDON - Hungry soldiers with limited water supplies and only dried food rations to eat could soon be using dirty swamp water or even urine to hydrate their food, New Scientist magazine reported Wednesday.


In a new technique, the dried rations are packed in a pouch with a special filter that removes 99.9999 percent of the bacteria and toxic chemicals from whatever liquid is used.

“The pouch — containing chicken and rice initially — relies on osmosis to filter the water or urine,” according to New Scientist magazine.

The rations were developed by scientists at the U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center in Natick, Mass., who two years ago developed an indestructible sandwich that stayed edible for up to three years.

Their aim is to reduce the amount of water soldiers need to carry. To hydrate the food, a soldier pours liquid on one end of the foil sachet. It seeps through the pouch and a membrane into the food.

But researchers at Hydration Technologies of Albany, Ore., which makes the membrane, said soldiers should only use urine in an emergency because the membrane does not filter out urea, a compound contained in urine.

Although it is not initially dangerous, the company said rehydrating food this way over the long term could cause kidney damage.


I appreciate the logic but don't like the reality

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

EWWWW

[Lootr2Core]

doesn't it make you want to join up?

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

hell yeah

[Dead of Knight]

No wonder why it's a stereotype for the British to have yellow teeth....

[bignick]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.

[Trakan]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.

I have heard of something like this also.

[Reality's Fringe]

Kevin Costner did it. Only real men drink their urine.

[bignick]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.

I have heard of something like this also.

I learned it at boy scout camp for my wilderness survival merit badge.

[epobirs]

Actually you can drink the urine straight up if the alternative is death by dehydration. It's quite harmless and there are even some lunatics who advocate it as being good for you.

Plenty of soldiers have survived by this means. Being able to use it with rations is actually a big improvement.

[Reality's Fringe]

Yeah, Urine is actually almost totally sterile I believe. You know, it's just that it's nitrogenous waste you have to look out for.

[epobirs]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.

It's essentially the same process as dialysis. Removing impurities from blood by passing it through a cellophane filter. Urine is mostly water. Passing it through cellophane just removes that portion that makes it distinctly recognizable as urine.

NASA has a lab were they've been developing biological recycling systems for many years. The toilets do not lead to the local sewers but instead to a collection system where the waste is treated and passed back through the plumbing for consumption. People drinking from the water fountains there are getting what was urine only a few hours before but nobody ever notices anything if they aren't warned.

We have a similar situation in Los Angeles County. The sewage treatment system produces purer water than comes from the tap in local homes. Due to severely obsolete laws it's illegal to offer that water for human consumption and it is mostly dumped in the ocean in a region where water supplies are a constant issue.

[Lootr2Core]

well DUH.. haven't you ever seen DUNE and their
suits?

:)

[Kaijufan]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.
Ill be sure to remember that.

[epobirs]

Gandhi was a big advocate of drinking one's own urine. Just in case anyone with a public school education hadn't heard he was more than a little nuts.

[Lootr2Core]

and Moises ALoe advocates PEEING on your own hands.. weird stuff that urine.

[Steggy]

bottoms up for a healthy glass of rice chicken and piss....

[biggestinuyashafan]

that is disgusting,i was even thinking joining the military at one point. nevermind that completely now.

[Graystone]

what all this talk about drinking piss. do what you got to do to live.

[epobirs]

that is disgusting,i was even thinking joining the military at one point. nevermind that completely now.

If the mere thought of that was enough to drive you away you wouldn't have been of much use to them anyways. There are far worse things a soldier can face, rest assured.

[captainfrizo]

I'm sure if you're a soldier in a war zone you have bigger things to worry about than drinking your own urine.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'll make sure to stay away from any military-sponsored lemonade stands.

[Lootr2Core]

I think I'd rather just eat the dehydrated food, or find an old k-ration somewhere.

is this any link between the urine rations and the increase in the refusal of VA service to Iraq/Afgan vets?

[Xevious]

This is definately one of the more educational threads. i feel I learned something today. Thank you Lootr2Core, Big Nick and everyone else.

[daphatty]

:puke:

[Moxio]

Absolutely bizarre, but I suppose I would drink somewhat filtered piss if I was on the verge of death.

[Dok Diamond]

thats just nasty, but you do what ya gotta do to survive.

[alongx]

The rations were developed by scientists at the U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center in Natick, Mass., who two years ago developed an indestructible sandwich that stayed edible for up to three years.

Mmmmmm...indestructible sandwich....

[Zenithian Legend]

:puke:

I'd like to second that

[levi333]

There are definatly worse things they face.

Random fact. I live 15 minutes away from Albany OR. Kinda cool that they make stuff for the military.

[Spacepest]

The rations were developed by scientists at the U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center in Natick, Mass., who two years ago developed an indestructible sandwich that stayed edible for up to three years.

Mmmmmm...indestructible sandwich....

Let's hope Quiznos and Subway doesn't get ahold of this technology. EEEEWWWW :shock:

[Lootr2Core]

I'm afraid to see what body fluids the Army scientists begin to experiment next with food preparation.

[Lootr2Core]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040721/040721_hydropack_vmed_2p.vmedium.jpg

[The Tragic Geek]

You can also drink your piss if you have no water. You dig a hole, put a cup in there, then put a piece of plastic over the hole, then piss on the plastic, then through some process water ends up in the cup.

A better way I learned it was to use a pan (assuming you had one out in the wild), and a small cup. Piss in the pan, place the cup in the middle of the pan, using some small rocks to keep it set. Place some plastic wrap over the pan, and put a small rock just above the cup. Piss evaporates, water condenses on the wrap, and drips into the cup.

Of course, I'm not about to try it, for I concur with the " :puke: " movement.

[epobirs]

Read a survival and field treatment manual sometime if you want to be put off leaving the house.

For instance, if somebody has just received a head trauma, is lying unconscious on the ground, and has clear fluid leaking from their nose and/or ears, what should do?

Answer: Taste it. If it's sweet this is strongly indicative of a skull fracture.