Undertow FREE XBLA - Friendly Reminder

[PyroGamer]

Just a friendly reminder to go download Undertow on XBLA! It's free NOW! What are you waiting for? GO DOWNLOAD IT! Do it now before you forget! You don't want to miss out on this like you did with Carcassonne, do you? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU'RE STILL READING THIS?? Stop reading now! NOW. Stop reading, get up, go download it. Come on. There's nothing more here. Nope. Nothing. Stop reading and go download the game. Look, it's only free until Sunday or something. And you're busy all week. Hell, Xbox Live is always acting up, you might not even be able to download it all week due to server issues, so go try now! Sure, you're paying 50 fucking dollars a year for the service but there's no guarantees here, this is Microsoft we're talking about here, people. So get off the computer. Go download it. Hell, if you have the standby downloads thing enabled you don't even have to wait for it to finish, just click the "undertow" button and turn your console right off. Hell, you could come back and finish reading this post if you really wanted to... well, actually, too late. You already have.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166602

[FredtheFarmer]

Thanks for the Reminder. I probably would have forgot, but I'm going to download it right now.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Thanks for the reminder. BTW what the heck am I supposed to be doing in this game? I'm being attacked but I can't really fight back and I have no idea what the point is?

[ItsTrueItsTrue92]

Me too.

[gobz]

You really have to play through the single player game to get a hang of how to play. I need to come back to it.

[UjnHunter]

Thanks for the heads up! Love me some Free Live Arcade games! ;)

[Layd Dly]

As soon as i get home. Glad i didnt buy it before.

[cromico]

thanks. its free, so i'm not complaining.

[spiderdog]

Thanks!

[wolf1010]

I was able to download the game in literally 2 seconds. Curious since I still can't play a smooth match of COD4.

[PyroGamer]

I was able to download the game in literally 2 seconds. Curious since I still can't play a smooth match of COD4.
I actually just started my download, and it's hanging up a bit around 30% :-\

[wampa8jedi]

lol, I kept getting XBL errors when I tried to download it ;)

[Cyb3-rr]

Thanks for the reminder. BTW what the heck am I supposed to be doing in this game? I'm being attacked but I can't really fight back and I have no idea what the point is?

The right stick shoots. I believe the point in each level is to capture territory, turning it from gold to blue, or whatever the colors are in the full game, and then just keep pushing the enemy back to cap the next one. Not sure if this varies in the single player game.

[xbltheshadow]

^ Same here... maybe lots of people are trying to download it right now or something.

[evo t rex]

This does not make up for the crappy service that I've been paying for that still keeps cropping up.

They could of given away a game that wasn't already released, but why do something like that when you can make sure that some people, like the poor saps who already bought the game, are still getting screwed.

[speedracer]

I know it's wrong of me, but I can't help but pray to the FSM that live is unable to accommodate this download for everyone.

[joshnorm]

Will be downloading this when I get home. thanks

[velvet396]

downloaded it at 8:30am to avoid the rush :)

[lunker]

This does not make up for the crappy service that I've been paying for that still keeps cropping up.

They could of given away a game that wasn't already released, but why do something like that when you can make sure that some people, like the poor saps who already bought the game, are still getting screwed.

In case you didn't know, all of the announcements around this Undertow giveaway have said that people who already bought the game can call up MS customer service to "be taken care of," which all sources indicate will be a straight-up refund of 800 points. Which is pretty good.

I must have the Live Connection of the Gods because aside from a handful of CoD4 connection problems right around New Years Day, I've been able to play CoD4 and Rock Band online for weeks with no problem. Not complaining about the free game, though. :)

[lockey]

downloaded with no problem. suprised by how fast it went.

[JohnnyDrama]

The game is pretty good so far, finished the first campaign

[dank]

Fuckkk!!!!!!!!!! I Just Got Rrod!!!!!!!!!! Wtf!!!!!11!!!11!1

Rip Launch Console

Fuck!!!!!!1111

[Trenchalicious]

lol PWNED by a free game

[mkernan]

Yeah, just FYI for those who already bought Undertow.... I called XBL Support yesterday and explained the situation and they credited 800 MS points into my account.

[dank]

Yeah, just FYI for those who already bought Undertow.... I called XBL Support yesterday and explained the situation and they credited 800 MS points into my account.


maybe theyll do that for me since i cant download it now....

[Sku Rhim]

This game is just meh...I'm not complaining about the price though! I would have preferred 800 MS points to my account instead.

[Codemaster]

I got 800 points credited too. Just had to stand the bad music and get through Microsoft's "hip" robot Mike.

[jollydwarf]

For those of you that got the 800 points credited...how long did this process take? I'm not about to sit on the phone for more than, oh, an hour (and that's even too painful to think about) to get $10 worth of Live Marketplace currency.

Thanks in advance. EDIT: vvvvv Thanks, CM.

[jarsofwei]

my 360 red ringed last week.. has anyone called in to see what microsoft will do in this situation? i would but i'm at the office now.. hoping for 800 pts

[Codemaster]

For those of you that got the 800 points credited...how long did this process take? I'm not about to sit on the phone for more than, oh, an hour (and that's even too painful to think about) to get $10 worth of Live Marketplace currency.

Thanks in advance.
About 10-15 minutes.

[VerbalKint]

thanks for the heads up. Not sure I'll ever play it but DLed it none the less. Thanks again OP

[happyorangeman]

Wow that sucks Dank. I would be pretty furious if that happened to me. I do think my 360 is on it's way out though. I have been getting a lot of disc read error's lately.

[eastx]

Don't forget the campaign has 4-player local or online co-op, you guys... Makes the game much more enjoyable. HDTVs help too since everything's so small and detailed.

Evo t rex, you need to stop whining.

[King of Swing]

My 360 bit the dust about 3 weeks ago and is still away being repaired. I might give them a ring and ask about downloading this for free later on.

[eliter1]

thx, im on it
*goes and turns xbox 360 on*

[Burchamj]

Thanks had no idea.
i got 4 errors, and i tried again and it downloaded.. So why is this free anyway?

[tahoesnowboarder]

For those that purchased the game. i too can confirm that you will be able to get a refund for the 800 points that the game costs. The refund is immediate as well so you can purchase other xbox live games or wait on better ones! Hope this helps!

[carpwrist]

thanx OP. completely unawares of such events.

[morbis]

HDTVs help too since everything's so small and detailed.

There's also an option to zoom the camera in. By default, it's zoomed all the way out.

[msane]

Thanks for the reminder, I'll grab it when I get home from work.

[kylerg]

Live down for a week..game free for a few days. My 360 is broken..I'll have to try and visit a friend.

[Azumangaman]

my 360 red ringed last week.. has anyone called in to see what microsoft will do in this situation? i would but i'm at the office now.. hoping for 800 pts Don't bother calling them until you get it back. I hate Microsoft's CS. Took her 50 minutes. Dumbass. She wasn't helpful in any way at all.
Basically she said call when you get your xbox 360.
I also wanted to get my mom's credit card removed. I told the first person that I didn't own the credit card, which is apparently fine. Then 30 minutes later when I finally get through to the next person, I'm told I need the CC owner. fuck that. I'm REMOVING the credit card to help her out, not buying anything. Assholes.
Thanks for wasting 50 minutes of my life.

I've had 1/6 good times with MS CS. Great.
LOL: Turns out the card expired way back. Don't neeed to worry about getting rid of it, she has a new one. LULZ

[jollydwarf]

Spoke with a very cordial and thorough guy with what sounded like an Indian accent (not exactly the clearest audio), call took about 10-15 minutes, got my 800 points back, no problem.

I chose "Account" from the main menu, for what it's worth. Have your phone number and address from the time you registered on Live ready.

[bostonfrontier]

wow, this game sucks... I just downloaded it and played it..... no wonder it was free.... I took it off my harddrive since they'll have to pay me to keep it on there

[hec204]

Thanks for the reminder, gonna download it now

[raginasian85]

Don't bother calling them until you get it back. I hate Microsoft's CS. Took her 50 minutes. Dumbass. She wasn't helpful in any way at all.
Basically she said call when you get your xbox 360.
I also wanted to get my mom's credit card removed. I told the first person that I didn't own the credit card, which is apparently fine. Then 30 minutes later when I finally get through to the next person, I'm told I need the CC owner. fuck that. I'm REMOVING the credit card to help her out, not buying anything. Assholes.
Thanks for wasting 50 minutes of my life.

I've had 1/6 good times with MS CS. Great.
LOL: Turns out the card expired way back. Don't neeed to worry about getting rid of it, she has a new one. LULZ
i was wondering about that. i bought some rock band songs for my cousin at their house and i realized my card was still on their 360!!! i was so pissed! i was tryin to figure out how to get it off. you can't even edit the card info besides the name, expiration date, and billing info.

but who doesn't know where i live. it's not that hard to figure out.

[Cyb3-rr]

Is local co-op split-screen, or is everyone on the same screen? Also, this supports more than 2 people in local co-op?

[dank]

Wow that sucks Dank. I would be pretty furious if that happened to me. I do think my 360 is on it's way out though. I have been getting a lot of disc read error's lately.

it does...mine was making grinding noises a lot and sometimes when i would eject the disc it would come out of the tray still spinning really fast. i knew it was only a matter of time.

[phantomfriar2002]

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to give this another shot -- but I confess I thoroughly disliked the demo, and I was all set to like it. Just didn't find the game play appealing at all.

[thirtytwoutside]

This does not make up for the crappy service that I've been paying for that still keeps cropping up.

A $10 game for much less than $10's worth of downtime... not making up for it?

You could also try not paying for it, if you dislike it so much. I heard MS listens to the power of the dollar, not internet bellyaching.

[phear3d]

lol you cant even download the free game since Live is currently down. thanks for the free game we cant download, Microsoft.

[awp]

I'm enjoying it. I had thought about purchasing. Just wish when you get a full game that it wouldn't reset your single player. I had gotten through all of the demo's levels. Now I've got to start all over.

No biggie. Free is good! (Considering I wasn't even trying to play on Xbox Live over the holidays.)

[Megalith]

Game has decent LFE, and not much else.

[Bretts31344]

lol you cant even download the free game since Live is currently down. thanks for the free game we cant download, Microsoft.

You having trouble downloading it too? Microsoft can't get any crappier these days.

[PyroGamer]

Well, after about 20 minutes I can tell this game sucks. A shame.

[callmesteam]

well hell.... i thought it was pretty fun. glad i didn't pay for it, but i could see myself spending some time. at least until my copy of 'no more heroes' shows up tomorrow.

[sstcrush]

no that bad actually...

[h3llbring3r]

Am I the only one who is getting some error about accessing the file on live?
I have a check by it now but it's not DLing.

[Trocar]

Wow, pretty bad game. Played for 5 minutes and stopped. There's no way this game deserves any of my time away from a game like Halo 3 or Bioshock.

[autche]

Out of curiosity, has anyone said they've already purchased the game to the customer support staff (and may have told a little white lie by doing so - but not actually downloading the game for free now) and receiving the 800 MS points - to spend on a less sucky of a game perhaps?

[Big Wang]

fuck this shit. I dont want no shitty arcade game. I want reimbursement for me not being able to use live.

[eastx]

Wow, pretty bad game. Played for 5 minutes and stopped. There's no way this game deserves any of my time away from a game like Halo 3 or Bioshock.

You clearly haven't spent enough time to learn it or see its attributes... The various character classes and their unique abilities, not to mention the actual gameplay system (which is not all about kills) take a little learning. Like I said before, there's the co-op campaign (which has an actual story with voiced cut-scenes), not to mention the versus play. Comparing a $10 downloadable game to big-budget $60 games like Halo 3 and Bio Shock is pretty silly, too.

Oh, and local multiplayer is split-screen.

[porieux]

I'm not going to say it's a bad game because I haven't tried it, but I will say that I am not interested in it at all. It's not a good (fair) form of compensation because not everyone has the same taste in games. There should at least be a couple of different games to choose from, or the option to get 400pts instead, or something. Otherwise, this really doesn't come across as a sincere attempt at making up for what was a very widespread problem.

[gavin0330]

I didn't really like the demo too much but will try the game again for free. Thanks for the reminder.

[Who's The Twitch Now?]

Otherwise, this really doesn't come across as a sincere attempt at making up for what was a very widespread problem.

It still IS a problem. I was playing Team Fortress 2 and Gears two days ago, and they both had more lag than I'd ever seen. That was the 30th day of the "Difficulties."

I downloaded Undertow for free, and hated it. While the financial value of what we lost out on was about 4 dollars, millions upon millions of hours of playtime were lost or seriously disrupted. When people say "You can't ask for anything, and you're getting something. Shut the hell up," they're missing the point that time is more valuable than money in this case, especially over the holiday break.

Microsoft blew this one. Even if I had liked the game they gave us, it wouldn't have been my choice.

[Morph06]

I appreciate them doing something but they really should be giving everyone a free month... I mean, me and my friends were looking forward to having time to play cod4 over the holidays and it was just plain unplayable for 3 weeks.

[ep2011]

Thanks, never knew about the game... It downloaded quickly, surprised to see if I actually enjoy it (I didn't enjoy last free game)

[Puffa469]

I didn't really like the demo too much but will try the game again for free. Thanks for the reminder.

Thats how I feel about it.

On the bright side, there should be ALOT more people playing this on Live compared to last week.

[bwilso80]

Microsoft is getting sued over the status of live.

http://www.gameshout.com/news/microsoft_quiet_about_xbox_live_status_due_to_laws uit/article9946.htm

[sp00ge]

I'm not going to say it's a bad game because I haven't tried it, but I will say that I am not interested in it at all. It's not a good (fair) form of compensation because not everyone has the same taste in games. There should at least be a couple of different games to choose from, or the option to get 400pts instead, or something. Otherwise, this really doesn't come across as a sincere attempt at making up for what was a very widespread problem.

Well put. This genre of game is not my thing. I tried the demo and couldn't stand it. Even I tried playing for an hour, it still wouldn't change the fact that I don't like this type of game.

[bil4ltool]

Microsoft is getting sued over the status of live.

http://www.gameshout.com/news/microsoft_quiet_about_xbox_live_status_due_to_laws uit/article9946.htm

Yeah, I've heard about this. I think these are the 3 dipshits from Texas suing for 50 mil. They're going to lose. It's in the TOS that Xbox Live is not guaranteed to work. I'm pissed about it though. They just offer a month of compensation as well, but theyre under no obligation to do so.

[crunchb3rry]

Anybody who already owned the game get the promised refund? How did it go, they give you any runaround or just ask for your gamertag and zap 800 MSP to it?

[help1]

This game blows.

[drawingboard]

The traffic is so bad, I cant even get on the marketplace. Live is horrible right now. Halo 3 was an embarrassment. People were dropping dead with no one even near them. Thanks M$.

[Monstarr]

This game blows.

Yep, I cant even tell what the hel I am doing.

[dg7md]

Got it, I played the demo when it was out and didn't like it, I'll give it another shot later tomorrow though.

[GBmanNC]

Out of curiosity, has anyone said they've already purchased the game to the customer support staff (and may have told a little white lie by doing so - but not actually downloading the game for free now) and receiving the 800 MS points - to spend on a less sucky of a game perhaps?
....You would have spent the points on undertow anyway. The end result would be the same, free undertow.

I enjoy the game quite a bit, with the different classes it has a bit of depth to it. Graphics are pretty good too.

[SpitFire158]

Free game comes out when my 360 is in repairs :(

[Demontooth]

God damn what a shitty game. My head hurts from that turd.

[Sharp Katana]

i would be downloading it but I'm not receiving my wireless adapter until Friday. Hopefully the servers don't crash ovr the weekend

[thrustbucket]

fuck this shit. I dont want no shitty arcade game. I want reimbursement for me not being able to use live.

Microsoft may be working on a time machine, but I really doubt they would let you use their prototype if they were.

[smellhasreturned]

wow many of you hate it

I like it <____<

[thrustbucket]

wow many of you hate it

I like it <____<

It's pretty surprising to me too. But then again, it always baffled me how many CAG's got huge wood over Castlevania and TMNT. I guess if CAG's had anything to say about it, XBLA would just be all retro stuff.

[porieux]

Microsoft may be working on a time machine, but I really doubt they would let you use their prototype if they were.

I really don't understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your posts in this thread...are you just taking potshots at people for fun or something?

[lordwow]

It's pretty surprising to me too. But then again, it always baffled me how many CAG's got huge wood over Castlevania and TMNT. I guess if CAG's had anything to say about it, XBLA would just be all retro stuff.

I like Retro stuff, as well as new stuff, but this game is crap.

[thrustbucket]

I really don't understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your posts in this thread...are you just taking potshots at people for fun or something?

The dude basically said he wanted his time back. It was a joke. Relax, and go back to hating free stuff.

[eastx]

wow many of you hate it

I like it <____<

You'll notice many of the people complaining also communicate on a... very young level, to put it nicely. "This game is poop!"

But there are some who legitimately don't like it, and we must respect those people.

[blk00civicsi]

fuck this shit. I dont want no shitty arcade game. I want reimbursement for me not being able to use live.

Ok, here's what to do. Email Support at Microsoft, explain to them that you couldn't play with friends around the holiday. Next, figure out how much you paid for live. (Since you are on CAG I'd expect that you didn't pay near $50 for it) Let's say you paid $35 MAX.

35/365 = .098 Just for good measure we can round to 10 cents/day.

Let's be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were out of service for 3 weeks.

21 x .10 = $2.10.

Now demand that Microsoft give you your money for the lost time on XBL. Don't forget to remind them that they only owe you 2.10. I am sure that they would be more than happy to give you 2.10 over a "Free" XBLA Game. If they give you a hard time, maybe some "nice" not "greedy" CAG's could PayPal you the $2.10. So buck up or GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thrustbucket]

Ok, here's what to do. Email Support at Microsoft, explain to them that you couldn't play with friends around the holiday. Next, figure out how much you paid for live. (Since you are on CAG I'd expect that you didn't pay near $50 for it) Let's say you paid $35 MAX.

35/365 = .098 Just for good measure we can round to 10 cents/day.

Let's be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were out of service for 3 weeks.

21 x .10 = $2.10.

Now demand that Microsoft give you your money for the lost time on XBL. Don't forget to remind them that they only owe you 2.10. I am sure that they would be more than happy to give you 2.10 over a "Free" XBLA Game. If they give you a hard time, maybe some "nice" not "greedy" CAG's could PayPal you the $2.10. So buck up or GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
I just about ruined my keyboard from soda spray....

[Hybrid5006]

Boo... I wish they would let us choose the game... I don't like this game at all...

[thrustbucket]

Boo... I wish they would let us choose the game... I don't like this game at all...

Which one would you have chosen?

[sp00ge]

Ok, here's what to do. Email Support at Microsoft, explain to them that you couldn't play with friends around the holiday. Next, figure out how much you paid for live. (Since you are on CAG I'd expect that you didn't pay near $50 for it) Let's say you paid $35 MAX.

35/365 = .098 Just for good measure we can round to 10 cents/day.

Let's be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were out of service for 3 weeks.

21 x .10 = $2.10.

Now demand that Microsoft give you your money for the lost time on XBL. Don't forget to remind them that they only owe you 2.10. I am sure that they would be more than happy to give you 2.10 over a "Free" XBLA Game. If they give you a hard time, maybe some "nice" not "greedy" CAG's could PayPal you the $2.10. So buck up or GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny you should say that, because I personally would much rather take the $2.10 and put it towards something I'll actually use, over a game I'll never play.

And enough of this flaming BS. People are allowed to complain about this "reimbursement." Grow up and respect others opinions or GTFO.

[jollydwarf]

I am really surprised at how strongly this game is being slammed in this thread. It's one of the better-reviewed Live Arcade games to date. Not that you have to agree with the critical consensus, obviously, but normally games that get critical praise get an overall 'thumbs up' from the gamers.

I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that people are getting it for free and what circumstances caused it to be free....

[help1]

Free game comes out when my 360 is in repairs :(

Trust me, playing this game is worse than not playing your 360.

I guess the saying is true, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

[porieux]

The dude basically said he wanted his time back. It was a joke. Relax, and go back to hating free stuff.

Actually he said he wanted reimbursement, it was right in the quote.

I guess you are taking potshots at me now too. Have fun.

[wildnuts02]

I am really surprised at how strongly this game is being slammed in this thread. It's one of the better-reviewed Live Arcade games to date. Not that you have to agree with the critical consensus, obviously, but normally games that get critical praise get an overall 'thumbs up' from the gamers.

I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that people are getting it for free and what circumstances caused it to be free....

I agree with this 100%

[thorbahn3]

Yeah, this game isn't all that great. The graphics look good but the gameplay is kind of a mess to me. It wants to be too many things: an RTS, Robotron/GW type game and a capture the flag game. It also shows why it's free now because I guess it was meant to be a cheap party game everyone owned and played. My guess is they think people will be playing this beyond the free date and expect 360 noobs who were not around to pick it up. Trouble is, this isn't UNO or hell, even Bomberman Live's two week lifespan of eveyone playing.

[lordwow]

Yeah, this game isn't all that great. The graphics look good but the gameplay is kind of a mess to me. It wants to be too many things: an RTS, Robotron/GW type game and a capture the flag game. It also shows why it's free now because I guess it was meant to be a cheap party game everyone owned and played. My guess is they think people will be playing this beyond the free date and expect 360 noobs who were not around to pick it up. Trouble is, this isn't UNO or hell, even Bomberman Live's two week lifespan of eveyone playing.

I agree with Thorbahn here. It looks great, but it plays like crap. I nearly tossed my controller out the window playing on Ultra mode, I like difficult games, but it's annoyingly so.

[DiscoJer]

I am sure that they would be more than happy to give you 2.10 over a "Free" XBLA Game. If they give you a hard time, maybe some "nice" not "greedy" CAG's could PayPal you the $2.10. So buck up or GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What they should do, is give everyone an extra month of Gold.

And yeah, some people do get it for cheap, but then there are people who spend $8 for it for a month (Not me, but I'm sure there are some who bought a one month gold card in December)

[eastx]

I agree with Thorbahn here. It looks great, but it plays like crap. I nearly tossed my controller out the window playing on Ultra mode, I like difficult games, but it's annoyingly so.

Ultra Mode really needs to be done in multiplayer. Since there are multiple difficulty options, what does it matter how hard the highest difficulty is, anyway?

[PyroGamer]

Relax, and go back to hating free stuff.
If the Xbox Live service Microsoft failed to deliver (and continues to fail to deliver) was free, I wouldn't be complaining.

[porieux]

I paid full price* for a year of Live in December, right before the outages.

*I didn't find a good deal in time and it was going to expire the next day, so I renewed
it in the Marketplace because playing Rock Band with my friends was more important than
waiting for a deal. And then Live was down for days during the times we planned to play...

I wouldn't be 'complaining' otherwise, and don't think it's fair to call this 'free stuff'.
Is it a huge deal, no, but this is a service we are being charged for here so it's fair to have expectations.

I didn't complain when Carcassone was free even though I wasn't interested in it either
(gf loves it (and had already paid for it) but it's not for me)....because that was actually
a truly free game so no reason to complain.

[eastx]

Still, the complaining is getting old. How long do you get to complain before it's annoying?

[$hady]

had no idea till reading the OP so thanks much! I liked Carcassone actually played it quite alot. Never thought about touching it until it was free though. :)

[SapientWolf]

If the Xbox Live service Microsoft failed to deliver (and continues to fail to deliver) was free, I wouldn't be complaining.
If it was free people would say that they would gladly pay for something that was more reliable.

I've only had Live problems once, so I don't understand why people act like Live is as bad as AOL (where disconnects were a daily occurance).

[jackoman]

thanks for the reminder. got my copy :)

[AlphakirA]

Why does everyone keep defending MS by saying that it's only $4 worth of Live time?? I don't think it's the money or points that people care about, it's the fact that thousands upon thousands of us couldn't play the system the way it was meant to be played.

I don't know about you guys, but when I tell a friend "ahhh, sweet, we'll play some CoD4 tonight" and then fail for 20-30 minutes to even get on Live after being excited to play with a buddy all day, that kind of pisses you off.

AT THE VERY LEAST they should've put an apology on the dashboard. Instead I see a message about Undertow that basically acts as if they're doing it to be generous. Complete bullshit all around on this one. I don't care about money, but I do care about my time being wasted.

[bigdaddybruce44]

AT THE VERY LEAST they should've put an apology on the dashboard. Instead I see a message about Undertow that basically acts as if they're doing it to be generous. Complete bullshit all around on this one. I don't care about money, but I do care about my time being wasted.

Well, to be fair, MS came out a few weeks back with a public apology, saying the outages were not acceptable. That is when they revealed there would be a free game.

[neushane]

DAMN, I am not even in the States and I am sick of everyones complaints. I could not even DL Carcassone and now I cant DL Undertow. Should I start bitching to MS because they did not burn be a compilation DVD with both games on it? Geez, things can be a lot worse than a couple days without Live. Take the time to get caught up on some single player games or go for a walk, ride a bike.

Shit like this can happen. Im out a lot more than $4 from Live Subscriptions. I bought a 220V power supply out here in Iraq so I would not have to worry about a power converter failing me. I cover my 360 and power supply when not in use. I also spray canned air into it to clear it of any dust since there is a shitload out here in the desert. Damn thing almost caught on fire last night after playing GOW for 1 1/2 hours. I bought it the day after X-mas (3 weeks ago). I brought it into the shop I got it at and the guy tried to blame me and then told me I only bought a 220V one because I blew my OEM 110V. I was pissed off and threw it on the floor of the store and walked out. Now I am out $75 and I just wanted a replacement. I wish I would have received the treatment Microsoft provided for a little disrubtion in the service. Be thankful you can even get on Live. I have to play single player on everything for 6 MONTHS straight. Everyone needs to stop bitching about it. MS apologized and offered a free game. What else would they need to do to make everyone stop whining? Outages happen and they acknowledged it was longer than it should have been to get it repaired. Deal with it. like I said, at least you get to enjoy the service. I will add that MS should have given out the free game and extended everyone's subscriptions by 2 weeks but I do not know how their database is run and if something like that is even possible without going thru each individual account.

[lordwow]

I will add that MS should have given out the free game and extended everyone's subscriptions by 2 weeks but I do not know how their database is run and if something like that is even possible without going thru each individual account.

Exactly, they should have, and that would have made me happy.

[shadylane]

what are the requirements for this free game. i activated mine 15 days into jan...

[AlphakirA]

For you to hit confirm download :-P

[smoger]

Comparing a $10 downloadable game to big-budget $60 games like Halo 3 and Bio Shock is pretty silly, too.
that's not necesarrily true. sure, you shouldn't expect the graphics or production value of a retail boxed game, but the point of games are that they're fun to play, which a $10 game certaintly can be. heck.. i'm a newer 360 owner and in the past 2 weeks my 360 hasn't seen anything except for the games on the xbox live arcade compilation disc.. pac man ce, luxor, and feeding frenzy for the most part. that disc was the best $15 i ever spent.

i have to say though.. undertow really didnt interest me at all. maybe it's too deep of a title for me? i think i have a predetermined notion that xbla games should be mindless fun .. jump in and play without much thought. i get the impression that undertow requires some thinking, and i'm just not ready to devote myself to that at this point.

[phantomfriar2002]

I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that people are getting it for free and what circumstances caused it to be free....

Nope. I think it's hugely overrated and really not much fun. Disliked the demo months ago too.

[Dragon_Master]

I downloaded it last night but i havenot been able to play it yet. I heard it got good reviews but hey even if it didnt it was free.

[phantomfriar2002]

I downloaded Undertow for free, and hated it. While the financial value of what we lost out on was about 4 dollars, millions upon millions of hours of playtime were lost or seriously disrupted. When people say "You can't ask for anything, and you're getting something. Shut the hell up," they're missing the point that time is more valuable than money in this case, especially over the holiday break.

That's the whole issue people miss in this thread. This service didn't work for DAYS -- actually over a couple of weeks by my measure playing COD4 -- so what if it "only cost $2.10 of play time".

Those were 2 weeks that a lot of people had vacation on at some point or other. The service is something you PAY for and it didn't work. Frankly giving away this game, which obviously hasn't sold well, isn't enough. They should have given everyone the OPTION of which game they wanted, not just given out a token download for a title nobody but the critics seems to like.

[xgamer]

Got my 360 back from repair last night and first thing I did was download Undertow, great game btw. Really quick turnaround on the repair from Microsoft, 2 weeks and 2 days.

[Tamizander]

OK. Damnit people.
What else do you want?
They released a PRESS RELEASE apologizing for the whole deal.
They are giving us a free game?
Do you want your money back?

Seriously, you people are turning into Fat Wallet people. Take the free game.
Take the apology?
OH NO! They didnt apologize on the dashboard! I'm upset!
Oh NO! I didn't get a personal call and makeout session directly from Bill Gates!

Chill out.

Enjoy the game.

Stop whining.

[Matsumoto11756]

I'm happy because its free and I'm still on my free 1 month new owner Gold trial. I played a little last night and the swimmer looked real small even on my 37" lcd. Hey free is free.........last free thing I got gave me a horrible rash.

[PyroGamer]

It is ridiculous to say we've only lost $4 of time. If Microsoft sold a month of LIVE for $4, then I would agree, but they DON'T.

You have to buy 12 months of service for $50 to get the average of $4 a month.

I don't use live every month. I only use live at sporadic bursts. Spring break, summer, when school slows down, and most especially: winter break.

I pay $50 a year so I can have a reliable service that will be there when I'm ready to use it. Being unreliable and shoddy during winter break is not a $4 loss, what it equates to is nullifying the idea of paying for a reliable service. That's a $50 loss.

The fact that I'm paying $50 to Microsoft just to keep the fucking system up, and they FAIL to do that, is especially annoying when Sony offers an actually reliable service, with DEDICATED SERVERS, for FREE.

If Xbox Live was free, I wouldn't complain. If Xbox Live was $4 a month, I wouldn't complain. But it's not free, and it's not $4 a month: it's $50 a year.

[breakin2]

I got stuck at 1% last night. Hopefully, it'll be better when I get home from work.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Downloaded just fine for me. Much better game than I origionaly thought based on the demo. I wouldn't have paid money for it but it's not bad for free.

[xgamer]

I could not complain about Microsoft, everytime I have an issue, I am compensated for my loss of time with the system. What else do you want?


And yes, I would like to see a more reliable live system since it is a paid for subscription, but if its not offered, go play PS3 and the extensive library of games they don't offer, lol.

[Mysterio]

If Xbox Live was free, I wouldn't complain. If Xbox Live was $4 a month, I wouldn't complain. But it's not free, and it's not $4 a month: it's $50 a year.

Actually, at $50/year, it equates to ~ $4.16/month. I fail to see your logic.

Also, according to section 16 of their TOS:

"We provide the Service "as-is," "with all faults" and "as available." The Microsoft Parties give no express warranties, guarantees or conditions."

You did read their TOS, didn't you? Last time I checked, Microsoft doesn't force you to accept the TOS.

Although Microsoft isn't legally required to give you a single cent when Live acts up, they provided you with an apology and a free XBLA game. Stop with the whining, be happy with the apology and free game, and move on. Sheesh. Some people are never happy... :roll:

[joshnorm]

It is ridiculous to say we've only lost $4 of time. If Microsoft sold a month of LIVE for $4, then I would agree, but they DON'T.

You have to buy 12 months of service for $50 to get the average of $4 a month.

I don't use live every month. I only use live at sporadic bursts. Spring break, summer, when school slows down, and most especially: winter break.

I pay $50 a year so I can have a reliable service that will be there when I'm ready to use it. Being unreliable and shoddy during winter break is not a $4 loss, what it equates to is nullifying the idea of paying for a reliable service. That's a $50 loss.

The fact that I'm paying $50 to Microsoft just to keep the fucking system up, and they FAIL to do that, is especially annoying when Sony offers an actually reliable service, with DEDICATED SERVERS, for FREE.

If Xbox Live was free, I wouldn't complain. If Xbox Live was $4 a month, I wouldn't complain. But it's not free, and it's not $4 a month: it's $50 a year.
Stop bitching and just don't buy it. Jesus Christ. Its like complaining about having a fucking car payment. You have a car you pay for it monthly but you know sometimes it just doesn't work. if you aren't happy with the service then stop using it. would you keep the awful car if you were this dis-satisfied with the service?

Bitching does nothing

[help1]

I am really surprised at how strongly this game is being slammed in this thread. It's one of the better-reviewed Live Arcade games to date. Not that you have to agree with the critical consensus, obviously, but normally games that get critical praise get an overall 'thumbs up' from the gamers.

I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that people are getting it for free and what circumstances caused it to be free....

Since we didn't pay for it, we realize how shitty it is and have no reason to defend our purchasing of this crappy game.

[thrustbucket]

Since we didn't pay for it, we realize how shitty it is and have no reason to defend our purchasing of this crappy game.

Third best rated XBLA game on IGN and got over 8 pretty much across the board, yet you are adamant that the game is the 4th-ryche holocaust.

Tell that to the thousands of people having fun playing multplayer now (which you doubtfully have even tried)

Look we get it, some of you don't like underwater area control competitve 2D shooters. Fine. Fantastic for you, go play something else. But for what it is, it's a great game. All the critics agree, and many players agree.

[skeets5977]

If Xbox Live was free, I wouldn't complain. If Xbox Live was $4 a month, I wouldn't complain. But it's not free, and it's not $4 a month: it's $50 a year.$50 dollars divided by 12 months equals $4.16 a month. So apparently somewhere between $4.00 and $4.16 a month is your limit. Excellent.

[Dragon_Master]

i downloaded it last night with no problems I cant wait to play it later on

[PyroGamer]

$50 dollars divided by 12 months equals $4.16 a month.
$50 a year =/= $4.16 a month.

If I have to pay by the year, I cannot pick and choose what months I'd like that year to stretch over.

The fact that $50 a year =/= $4.16 is so fucking obvious. It's even in the prices: Microsoft charges $50 for 12 month card, and $8 for a 1 month card.

Although Microsoft isn't legally required to give you a single cent when Live acts up
Who in the fuck said anything about legal requirements? If in order to defend Microsoft, you have to use the "They're not Doing Anything Illegal" argument, that doesn't bode very well for Microsoft.

[xeno]

just got this this morn along with the DMC 4 demo cant wait to play them when i get home from school

[Mysterio]

Microsoft charges $50 for 12 month card, and $8 for a 1 month card.

So purchase the one-month cards, play only the monthly periods you want, and quit yer bitchin'.

[PyroGamer]

So purchase the one-month cards, play only the monthly periods you want, and quit yer bitchin'.
I was correcting people that say we have only lost $4 of service thanks to this outage. If you're going to put a dollar value on it, say we lost $8 of service (and as LIVE irreliability continues to this very day, that dollar amount will obviously continue to grow).

[help1]

Third best rated XBLA game on IGN and got over 8 pretty much across the board, yet you are adamant that the game is the 4th-ryche holocaust.

Tell that to the thousands of people having fun playing multplayer now (which you doubtfully have even tried)

Look we get it, some of you don't like underwater area control competitve 2D shooters. Fine. Fantastic for you, go play something else. But for what it is, it's a great game. All the critics agree, and many players agree.
Okay, Halo 3 has high reviews, and has thousands of people loving its multiplayer. And yet, many of you say its crappy...

Remember, in order to use logic, it must in multiple ways and not be confined to one case.

And, for the record, I played a couple of ranked matches of this game. Hated it.

[help1]

I was correcting people that say we have only lost $4 of service thanks to this outage. If you're going to put a dollar value on it, say we lost $8 of service (and as LIVE irreliability continues to this very day, that dollar amount will obviously continue to grow).
The MSRP for this tv: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4065F-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000OE02G4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1201208717&sr=8-2


Is 1,900 dollars. And yet, no one buys it for that much and is sold at a price significantly lower than MSRP. You can't always go by the MSRP. Also, most of us use $50 cards here, and are not retarded enough to buy cards monthly.

[Scorch]

It is ridiculous to say we've only lost $4 of time. If Microsoft sold a month of LIVE for $4, then I would agree, but they DON'T.

My store carries a 1 month Live card for $4.99.. it's $4 with my discount :D

(sorry. I had to chime in!)

[stoerm]

I love Undertow, but have thus far been too busy to justify buying it. Many thanks to the OP for the reminder, as I never heard the original announcement. You saved me $10. :)

[KeyserSoze81]

I'm quite pleased with the compensation. It's a good face saving move; Microsoft has likely appeased its consumer base for now. If people are unhappy with Xbox Live, by all means, discontinue service and free up bandwidth for those of us who will remain; its the best option out there for online console gaming. I gladly plunked down quite a bit more per month for WoW, and that had downtime quite a bit, albeit scheduled maintenence.

The bottom line is that every service will have unexpected downtime due to externalities. In this instance, M$ did not fully account for the huge bump from Christmas; when the problems popped up, their IT group was on a likely well deserved holiday. If you think that it is unfair, I suggest you a cross and nail yourself to it. Or better yet, think long and hard about whether you were working >40 hour weeks during the holidays...

[wildnuts02]

the value of the actual loss will vary - it depends on how much you paid (call it $).

take the length of your subscription (i.e., 13 months or 1 month) and convert it to hours (call it X). then determine the amount of hours Live did not work for you (call it Y).

your loss would = (y/x) * $

[n8rockerasu]

I'm quite pleased with the compensation. It's a good face saving move; Microsoft has likely appeased its consumer base for now. If people are unhappy with Xbox Live, by all means, discontinue service and free up bandwidth for those of us who will remain; its the best option out there for online console gaming. I gladly plunked down quite a bit more per month for WoW, and that had downtime quite a bit, albeit scheduled maintenence.

The bottom line is that every service will have unexpected downtime due to externalities. In this instance, M$ did not fully account for the huge bump from Christmas; when the problems popped up, their IT group was on a likely well deserved holiday. If you think that it is unfair, I suggest you a cross and nail yourself to it. Or better yet, think long and hard about whether you were working >40 hour weeks during the holidays...
There are many comments in this thread that I was going to respond to, but this last one actually hits a main point that should shut up both sides of the argument. Whether or not you feel vindicated by MS reimbursement for the holiday outages, you have to recognize that pretty much EVERYTHING sucks from Black Friday through the first week of the new year.

Go to the Post Office, the mall, a grocery store, Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc., etc., etc.!!! It's freaking terrible! Are you going to sue these places because more of your "time" was sucked away than at any other point during the year? Are you going to sue the city because traffic was so bad that it took you an hour to get home from work, when it normally takes you 30 minutes? This is just freakin life man. It's unfortunate, but people/companies generally do the best they can. And if they didn't, people would look elsewhere, and they'd go out of business.

I honestly don't care for Undertow, but I'm not going to rip on Microsoft for making an attempt. Yes, maybe giving people a free month would have been a more accurate "reimbursement", but none of us can say what the logistics of that would be. You also can't hold MS responsible for your playing habits. Whether you only play during certain times of the year, or how much you were looking forward to playing over Christmas break. These are YOUR choices. Microsoft is not going to reimburse you for your "emotional distress". Kill the freaking drama and grow up already!

[porieux]

There's nothing worse than people complaining about people complaining.

I wonder why they read the thread at all. Hypocrites.

[n8rockerasu]

There's nothing worse than people complaining about people complaining.

I wonder why they read the thread at all. Hypocrites.

Unintelligent comment. Get back to me when you graduate high school. My comment was simply meant to provide some perspective. Regardless of your feelings about Microsoft no company will ever be held liable merely becuase they "ruined your day".

[urzishra14]

I was correcting people that say we have only lost $4 of service thanks to this outage. If you're going to put a dollar value on it, say we lost $8 of service (and as LIVE irreliability continues to this very day, that dollar amount will obviously continue to grow).

first off the sole purpose on why I got a gold account was to play online with other people..

4.16 a month (when you pay 50 up front.. which is like purchasing a superficial game anyways) is not really all that much money.. for me (a working student) its about a tenth of my paycheck for two weeks (i get paid around 500 every 2 weeks.. not bad not great but livable where i live) i think I can spare that much a year just so i can hop online and play other players. its worth it to me..

as far as I know XBL is a better service then the PSN (I don't have a PS3 so I don't know..) but what I do know.. the games offered on XBLA and the DLC is much better on the XB and the games have more players playing them.

[zedarkness]

Although this pays up for it, I think a resonable thing XBL coulda done is give a 1-month extension to everyone.

[hec204]

Although this pays up for it, I think a resonable thing XBL coulda done is give a 1-month extension to everyone. Reasonable for us, but for microsoft it's giving millions of dollars away, instead they preffer to give us a shitty game and just tell anyone that complains to go download it.

[drbutchevil]

To anyone who happens to have a console currently red ringed and in for repairs that won't be back in time to download, give them a call. I did, they made arrangements for me to be given a token to download the game when my 360 returns. Not quite as good as the 800 points I was hoping for, but eh, I still get a game.

[gareman]

I don't get all the undertow hate. Its got a fun simple multiplayer. The single is ok.....
Its like smash tv with a battlefront/field premiss. 16 player online...decent arcade graphics, oh yea and its free.

What game would you prefer? Metal Slug 3? I mean that game isn't very long and you can pick all 7 of em' for less than 20 dollars now. All other good games are probably to well downloaded to justify giving the community for free. Can you imagine the additional phone calls and compensation if they gave away geometry wars? Decent game free and not many people have purchased it.

[spoo]

There's nothing worse than people complaining about people complaining.

I wonder why they read the thread at all. Hypocrites.
I will tell you what is worse, people complaining about people complaining about a complaint!

You heard it here first!

[PyroGamer]

That's nothing compared to complaining about people complaining about people complaining about a complaint!

What game would you prefer? Metal Slug 3?
Actually, yeah, I would have greatly preferred Metal Slug 3. Not that I have any problem with Undertow for free.

[ITDEFX]

This game is crazy man... I like the whole under water effects. It can get really tense when everyone fighting for a control point.

[shortaznkid99]

I downloaded it. I haven't played it though,

[crunchb3rry]

Although this pays up for it, I think a resonable thing XBL coulda done is give a 1-month extension to everyone.

THe fact we have to pay for it to begin with is a crock of shit. That default dash blade ad window could cover the costs of everything and be an ad that would be viewed by millions of people (making it worth the advertiser's investment). Almost as visible as a Super Bowl ad in regards to viewership, but 365 days a year. They should rent that window out to ad companies and let those fuckers cover XBL overhead costs. They already have been renting out XBLA for days and even weekends from just one company (Adidas, etc.). So why not just wrangle up a pile of corporations and keep it going all year?

The window (and others) are already plastered with self-serving Microsoft ads, so if you swap out a Halo 3 ad with a Subway ad, it won't bother subscribers no more than the game ads. Hell, Microsoft could potentially make more off big companies than what subscribers are paying.

[stoned99]

I called xbox support and had them refund me 800 points, due to the fact that I had actually bought the game a while back. Used the points to download pinball :)

[crunchb3rry]

Yeah, I just called too. I didn't even have to tell them anything, I just asked about it and they confirmed some info and credited me right away. Took probably 5 minutes total.

I spent the refund right away on the new Guitar Hero 3 song pack. A lot of people must be downloading that because it's slow going. I might spend the rest on unlock keys for the EA games I have...April Fools.

[eastx]

Whether or not you feel vindicated by MS reimbursement for the holiday outages, you have to recognize that pretty much EVERYTHING sucks from Black Friday through the first week of the new year... Microsoft is not going to reimburse you for your "emotional distress". Kill the freaking drama and grow up already!

That was just an excellent post. I think a lot of the complainers just haven't thought things out very well. If anyone reads your post and still complains, we'll know he's a right b******. 8-)

[porieux]

Unintelligent comment. Get back to me when you graduate high school. My comment was simply meant to provide some perspective. Regardless of your feelings about Microsoft no company will ever be held liable merely becuase they "ruined your day".


I wasn't even referring to you specifically (not sure I even read what you wrote at all), but if the shoe fits...

The words 'high school' and 'unintelligent' in your posts are nice attempts at ad hominem attacks, thanks.

The words 'ruined your day' show that you either didn't read or didn't understand what I (and others) wrote.

Thanks for playing.

[n8rockerasu]

I wasn't even referring to you specifically (not sure I even read what you wrote at all), but if the shoe fits...

The words 'high school' and 'unintelligent' in your posts are nice attempts at ad hominem attacks, thanks.

The words 'ruined your day' show that you either didn't read or didn't understand what I (and others) wrote.

Thanks for playing.

If it wasn't directed at me, I apologize. I guess the timing just seemed coincidental. Regardless, I agree with you about outright complaining. Intelligently debating the issue, however, should always be acceptable. Check out the First Ammendment for that one.

Also, I've read every comment in this thread. The recurring theme was people complaining about how their days/weekend/Christmas vacations were ruined due to Live being down, and THAT was truly the reason MS should give gamers everything under the sun to make up for it.

All I was trying to do was throw a little reality their way. If your house burns down in a fire and you lose all of your possessions, your insurance company is only going to give you the retail value of the items you owned (if you have proof you owned them). Nobody gives a crap what they meant to you. You get face value people. That's just life.

[Apossum]

not a bad little game. it compensates for the 3 hours I spent sitting in my room, periodically trying to recover my gamertag.

had I been trying to play on Live that whole time, I probably wouldn't feel compensated.

[fr3ak3d]

This game is mad fun I cant stop playing i........

[nnthomas]

boring thread, more XBL complaints - diaf you pedestrian posters

I already bought it and got refunded 800 points just in time for SEXY REZ TIME WOO

[Liquid Identity]

Thanks for the reminder. I have had the 360 in a different part of the house for a few weeks and had no Live hookup there.
But I moved the 360 back to it's normal place and downloaded the game. :D

[wolf1010]

It is a compliment to Microsoft that people are as upset as they are about LIVE being down for this long. LIVE has become a part of some of our routines. It is woven in to our day.

Not having any indication from Microsoft when this will be resolved flames the frustrations because you are contstantly hopeful that LIVE may work every time you power on your machine and subsequently you are dissapointed. It is difficult when something that has generally brought so much pleasure has recently, and very consitently as of late, had the opposite effect.

If Microsoft has no idea when this will end they should inform us of that fact. I understand that they are worried about losing potential subscribers. However, Microsoft's bottom line is not my concern.

No reasonable person wants anything more than for LIVE to begin working again. If LIVE is fixed tomorrow everybody forgets.

[spoo]

I

Not having any indication from Microsoft when this will be resolved flames the frustrations because you are contstantly hopeful that LIVE may work every time you power on your machine and subsequently you are dissapointed. It is difficult when something that has generally brought so much pleasure has recently, and very consitently as of late, had the opposite effect.

If Microsoft has no idea when this will end they should inform us of that fact. I understand that they are worried about losing potential subscribers. However, Microsoft's bottom line is not my concern.

Not to fuel the fire but I would blame the three Texans that have filed a class action suit against MS over this. The reason MS can't/won't talk about the outages is because of the lawsuit.

[misbitski]

I think the game is a great peace offering...one of the better XBL titles. It sucks when you get errors trying to download it though. I'm concerned MS has hit some kind of weird threshold with their current infrastructure where it's just not scaling properly. If it was as simple as adding additional servers to support the load, it wouldn't have taken this long to address.

I also came to another disturbing realization the other day on my laptop connected via a WWAN card, which kind of parallels my experience with XBL lately. Any network aware MS product seems to come to a crawl and when the connection has problems. I'm not talking network specific things like web browsing either. Basic things like navigating the OS or console dashboard can become torturous. IMO, they need to do some re-design to minimize those dependencies.

[nightmare452]

Thanks for the reminder.
I was actually gonna buy this game about two days before this was know, thankfully I was low on MS points and am to lazy to look for more. (not to mention broke)

Very good game. Played it last night.

[invisibleink]

i downloaded it but it wont work, like when its on the title screen where you press A to start or B to quit no buttons will do anything. any ideas on whats wrong?

[foltzie]

Thanks OP

[misbitski]

i downloaded it but it wont work, like when its on the title screen where you press A to start or B to quit no buttons will do anything. any ideas on whats wrong?

Probably XBL being dumb again. Those are the symptoms I've had.

[invisibleink]

Probably XBL being dumb again. Those are the symptoms I've had.

so should i delete and re-download or just wait it out and it should work eventually?

[misbitski]

so should i delete and re-download or just wait it out and it should work eventually?

It probably downloaded fine, and it's not the game.

You can try by disconnected the network cable from your 360 and sign in with your gamer profile. Everything should work fine, you just won't be logged into XBL.

[groundskeeper]

Too bad my Xbox got the three rings the day before this was offered for free and that I will not get it back until next week when the offer is over.

[neushane]

Too bad my Xbox got the three rings the day before this was offered for free and that I will not get it back until next week when the offer is over.

Call customer service and tell them it is in for repair. They will look it up and if they see it, ask for a game token to enter the code for a future download.

[spincut]

wait....when was this announced? cause according to major nelson it will no longer be free after today and i still wont be back in town for a few days.

this BETTER not be the free game people were promised....because that would mean i missed out on it entirely.

[Duddy07]

Sorry to be the barer of bad news but this is the promised game.

[gareman]

People aren't complaining about people complaining. Its how people argue/debate. I express a my conclusion and why. Someone else says I do not agree with your conclusion here is why. Well, I still think your conclusion is misplaced and here's why. So on and so fourth.

[UberNinjaz]

Recently played this....no offense to anyone but Undertow is absolute trash =\ Tries to imitate Geo Wars but fails horribly & becomes a huge yawn-fest
in a few seconds. Played it for maybe 5 minutes & I honestly had enough.

& no one should bother saying "bu bu bu onlee teh 5 minutes!1!1" since IMO that was enough time to decide on this shallow garbage. MS should have just gave everyone 400-800 points instead -_-

[cheezwhiz]

There's nothing worse than people complaining about people complaining.

I wonder why they read the thread at all. Hypocrites.

yet here you are complaining about people complaining about people complaining...

touche'

or perhaps

douche'

[Fredrick2003]

Heh Heh Heh, I needed this reminder.

But missing Carcassone was half not my fault, my 360 was away due to RROD for most of the period.

[thrustbucket]

Recently played this....no offense to anyone but Undertow is absolute trash =\ Tries to imitate Geo Wars but fails horribly & becomes a huge yawn-fest
in a few seconds. Played it for maybe 5 minutes & I honestly had enough.

& no one should bother saying "bu bu bu onlee teh 5 minutes!1!1" since IMO that was enough time to decide on this shallow garbage. MS should have just gave everyone 400-800 points instead -_-

Geometry wars clone? Can you play geometry wars multiplayer? Undertow was designed to primarily be a multiplayer area control game. So I assume you spent that 5 minutes in a multiplayer game, otherwise your opinion is garbage.

[GBmanNC]

Geometry wars clone? Can you play geometry wars multiplayer? Undertow was designed to primarily be a multiplayer area control game. So I assume you spent that 5 minutes in a multiplayer game, otherwise your opinion is garbage.

Of course he spent it in multiplayer, learning the pluses and minuses of each class. Otherwise he'd be a douche bag!