Okay... I'll pay.

[Blaine]

The last few weeks I realize that work is tolerable whenever the CAGcast is on. It really does just make the day zoom on by.

So... I think I'd be willing to pay a subscription to get shows more often. Daily would be awesome (Like Howard Stern, Cheapy!) but... more often is what I'd love.

I think I'd be willing to pay the same I pay for Xbox Live. $50 a year for unlimited entertainment.

How about it? I'm sure this will go nowhere, but who else is ready to penny up for more frequent CAGcasts?


**EDIT***

The TL;DR for this thread is as follows:

I, and others (though not many) would be willing to pay for an extended CAGcast type network. With more frequent podcast, etc, for the purposes of helping to make CAG Cheapy and Wombat's full time jobs. It is not:

1) That ONLY people who pay can get the CAGcast.
2) The current CAGcast would cost money.
3) Anything other than paying to get MORE - not the same amount, but more and only more.

It's also not that the aforementioned 'more' is only available to subscribers, but that everyone would reap the benefits with acknowledgement that subscribers might get some special content/contests/etc.

Continue.

[Chacrana]

No.

[StinkyCheese]

let me give you some help. Scroll your browser to the top of the page? In case you cant read, it says ''cheap ass gamer''. CAG's arent willing to pay for more podcasts.

sorry if I sound like a jerk, I would like more cagcasts also. But I would not want to pay

[Blaine]

lCAG's arent willing to pay for more podcasts.

Alright. Educate me further.

CAG's are willing to pay for...? What?

Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live and Goozex? Maybe not all of them for everyone, but I bet you everyone pays for at least one.

Look - I'm not saying everyone would have to pay or that people who don't pay don't get to listen (although Cheapy would need to have some paid subscriber content to make it worth it for them... subscriber only contests, whatever) but, personally I get so much entertainment from the CAGcasts that I'd be willing to help make it their full time occupation.

To me, being a CAG is about getting value for your money.

[Chacrana]

Paying to listen to other people talk about games they played though? That's silly.

[Blaine]

Paying to listen to other people talk about games they played though? That's silly.

If you allow me to tweak slightly...

Paying to read other people write about games they played though? - Game magazine.

I don't really buy any these days because the info is so out of date there's no point. Most of your current magazines are just 'ooh, sneak preview! first pics!' which... Seriously, that's what the internet is for.

But the best thing about GameFan magazine when it was around, is it was entertaining. It was funny and irreverent. They had genuine viewpoints. It was fun to read. Some of the stuff was off topic, some of it was a little strange, but it was always enjoyable.

In many ways the CAGcast is superior because it has all of that as well as timely game news.

I sorta see it as a magazine in that way. To me, it's worth it. Again, I'm not trying to share or shed anyone's opinion BUT my own.

You're more than welcome to not be interested... I didn't say anything when you said 'no', and wouldn't have. You're welcome to your own opinion.

I'm just sharing mine.

[linkpwns]

Perhaps you should find other podcasts to listen to. Try GFW Radio, 1up Yours, and CAGForeplay, as these are my favorites. I also Listen to the CAGCast

[Chacrana]

If you allow me to tweak slightly...

Paying to read other people write about games they played though? - Game magazine.

I don't really buy any these days because the info is so out of date there's no point. Most of your current magazines are just 'ooh, sneak preview! first pics!' which... Seriously, that's what the internet is for.

But the best thing about GameFan magazine when it was around, is it was entertaining. It was funny and irreverent. They had genuine viewpoints. It was fun to read. Some of the stuff was off topic, some of it was a little strange, but it was always enjoyable.

In many ways the CAGcast is superior because it has all of that as well as timely game news.

I sorta see it as a magazine in that way. To me, it's worth it. Again, I'm not trying to share or shed anyone's opinion BUT my own.

You're more than welcome to not be interested... I didn't say anything when you said 'no', and wouldn't have. You're welcome to your own opinion.

I'm just sharing mine.

But magazines give you reviews and previews of stuff that's not out yet. The CAGCast is amusing, but it's not telling you anything useful. That's the issue for me.

[CouRageouS]

Maybe you can just pay Cheapy and Wombat to call you once a week. I'm sure they'll gladly accept the money. :D

[Blaine]

But magazines give you reviews and previews of stuff that's not out yet. The CAGCast is amusing, but it's not telling you anything useful. That's the issue for me.

I understand that totally. It's a completely fair point.

I think as they continue to grow they'll get more and more 'inside' info and opportunities to play unreleased stuff. But for now, you're right.

[chakan]

This topic would have been better with a poll.

No, I wouldn't pay. I have no problem with commercial spots so Cheapy and Wombat get paid, but there are too many services I pay for already each month. Even though its fake internet radio, I expect it to be free. I laugh at paying for satellite radio, too.

[crushtopher]

Pretty sure $50 a year is the same price as some worthless video games we CAGs purchase. Then again we also splurge the extra $$$ for a stupid shiny box, some artwork, and the title of "collector's edition."

But hey...why pay for something when it's already FREE?!

[PyroGamer]

No. I wouldn't even pay for professional podcasts like the stuff on 1up.

[Vinny]

If they did more shows, I'd get the feeling that they wouldn't have enough to talk about... I don't think I'd care to hear Cheapy's weather forecasts in Japan or hear about his run ins with Godzilla.

If you're really that bored, just find some other podcasts. There's like billions of them.

[Veronica Mars]

Alright. Educate me further.

CAG's are willing to pay for...? What?

Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live and Goozex? Maybe not all of them for everyone, but I bet you everyone pays for at least one.


Um...
Excuse me, I don't get any services.
No Netflix , no nothing.

If I don't pay for parking tickets, wtf would I pay to listen people talk about porn sites and how they fart when they take showers.

I do pay for my tickets, just late :)

[Blaine]

Just because it's been mentioned a few times. Here's my itunes podcast list:

Achivement Junkie
All Games Interactive
The Arse Cast
CAGcast
Classic Tales Podcast
Cult of UHF
Dreamstation.cc
EGM Live
Essential Knolwedge
The Fader
Game Theory
GamerCast Network
Gay Gamer
Hierocast
Infendo Radio
Mashed Up
Ninja Cast
Podtoidsan
Presidents Weekly Address
Radio Free Nintendo
Radioclash (thanks Cheapy)
Sarcastic Gamer
Skepicts Guide To The Universe
Sploitcast
That's What She Said
Things We Did Before Reality
WiiSpot
Wobcast
1UP Yours
Retronauts
4 Color Rebellion
50 Pound Note

I skipped a few that haven't put anything up in a while or don't seem to be working.

I have podcasts to listen to, but here's the point - I really like the CAGcast. It's probably my favorite. I think they could have better/more content, more features, more anything if they did it full time as a job. It's good right now, but it can grow.

I don't buy the 'there'd be nothing to talk about' angle, because if that was true Kotaku/Joystiq/Destructoid (who carry the same stories) would be in a shitload of trouble.

Just look at todays news:

"Rainbow 6 Devs: We won't go back to Vegas"
Puzzle Quest 2 news
Mass Effect DLC
Condemned 2
etc.

And I'm not just grabbing headlines. These are games/series that Cheapy and Wombat have expressed interest in and have opinions on.

I'm not saying there won't be slow news days... there's always slow news days, but that's reality. I mean, I listen to a lot of podcasts - and not singling any of them out, but not 'big time, well known website' cast - there are podcasts with big name guests, coming on shows with uninteresting questions.

CAGcast might not be in a place right now to get a developer from an upcoming game... but, again, there is room for them to grow.

I'm saying I think that paying them will help make a better CAGcast because they can devote themselves to it more. Not that the current CAGcast is worth $50, but that I think an improved and expanded CAG network would be.

[Blaine]

Um...
Excuse me, I don't get any services.
No Netflix , no nothing.


Stealing internet as well, are we?

[Vinny]

Stealing internet as well, are we?

Free public wi-fi?:lol:

[Veronica Mars]

Parts Of The Bay Area Have Free Wi-Fi Provided by Google.
JUST FYI! So don't Assume It's Stolen :/

[Blaine]

Parts Of The Bay Area Have Free Wi-Fi Provided by Google.
JUST FYI! So don't Assume It's Stolen :/


I'm just joking. The same way I'm joking when I say:

That's not an answer to my question :). Whether or not Google provides free wifi to the bay area doesn't mean you're in that area using the free Google wifi.

[Shadows916]

Alright. Educate me further.

CAG's are willing to pay for...? What?

Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live and Goozex? Maybe not all of them for everyone, but I bet you everyone pays for at least one.

Look - I'm not saying everyone would have to pay or that people who don't pay don't get to listen (although Cheapy would need to have some paid subscriber content to make it worth it for them... subscriber only contests, whatever) but, personally I get so much entertainment from the CAGcasts that I'd be willing to help make it their full time occupation.

To me, being a CAG is about getting value for your money.

umm.....No, and No. Not interested in paying for a podcast, and I dun use any rental service besides taking my ass down to the store and renting, so you lose the bet-now gimme something!!
:)

[chakan]

Since there isn't a poll,

Would pay a subscription=4
Would not =12

Look, I think almost everyone (maybe not Veronica Mars)in this topic loves the CAGcast, and the fact that at least you are willing to pay for the content is a testament to its quality. I am grateful for the effort Cheapy puts into the show, and for Wombat showing up.

I think its safe to say that the majority of us are cheapasses and would not pay for something we've been getting for free for over 100 episodes. Here is a question that hasn't been brought up; Would Cheapy D and Wombat even WANT to do a daily show? I think not, based on what they've said on the show about their lifestyles, and the fact that they don't talk for a whole week to "save it for the show"

[jkanownik]

I wouldn't pay for more Podcasts, but I would make a pledge to try harder to click through CAG when making purchases that no one else offers cash back on.

[Veronica Mars]

I'm just joking. The same way I'm joking when I say:

That's not an answer to my question :). Whether or not Google provides free wifi to the bay area doesn't mean you're in that area using the free Google wifi.

Ohhh.
You caught me using STOLEN INTERNET!
Darn :/

[zzl365]

The last few weeks I realize that work is tolerable whenever the CAGcast is on. It really does just make the day zoom on by.

So... I think I'd be willing to pay a subscription to get shows more often. Daily would be awesome (Like Howard Stern, Cheapy!) but... more often is what I'd love.

I think I'd be willing to pay the same I pay for Xbox Live. $50 a year for unlimited entertainment.

How about it? I'm sure this will go nowhere, but who else is ready to penny up for more frequent CAGcasts?

One question you need to ask is... if we pay them, will they somehow have more to talk about? I like cagcast as much as anybody else, but I don't know that there's enough to discuss for even one extra hour a week (during the average week), let alone daily.

[paintball745]

the day cag goes paid podcasts is the day i will not listen to it anymore.i support them buy clicking through there links to buy stuff on amazon and buy.com etc.

[Blaine]

A couple things:

First, I'm not even specifically saying a daily podcast. I'm saying simply more frequently. Daily would be fun - and if you don't think there's enough content... I just disagree. All Games Interactive is usually a daily show. Every day, some days the show has gone on for almost 5 hours (extreme, I know). Besides the fact that there are daily game podcasts, there does seem to be enough news and items on a day in day out basis to talk about.

Again... not saying it'd have to be daily. I'm just saying daily is possible. I'd be willing to pony up for a more frequent CAGcast, whatever that may be.

Second, I'm not trying to convince anyone that it should be a pay podcast. TLDR - I personally would be willing to contribute to help make Cheap Ass Gamer their full time job. I'm sure Cheapy would need to offer perks to 'subscribers' to make it worth the while of some people, but I'm not suggesting the free CAGcast go anywhere.

If you don't want to or are not interested in improving Cheap Ass Gamer - that's fine, go right on about your business. Nothing will change for you.

I'm just saying, it's worth it to me.

[SolidSnake1125]

i might pay, definately not 50 dolalrs though, and are theer any video game podcasts that you do have to pay for?

[Simon D I]

If the CAGCAST was only available on iTunes, and it was $0.99 or $1.99...up to $4.99, I'd pay for it.

I mean, shit,...with PS3 and 360, I buy so many points and what not, and they end up going to waste, but to support these guys would be something I'd do.

Same goes for some of the other podcasts I like!

[EtchColi]

Yeah, I'd pay for the CAGcast. Either more frequent casts or some sort of subscriber perk would be enough to get me to pony up. And for those of you who don't seem to understand what Blaine is getting at, this is how I took it:

There'd still be the free weekly cast, as there has always been. However, subscribers may get a few other casts throughout the week, maybe a special (larger/more valuable prize most likely) contest, etc.

Helping funnel some more money into the site would be beneficial to all of us really. It's help Cheapy and Wombat rise through the gaming ranks and we'd get more insider info, better/more interviews, better/more contests, and more exclusive CAG deals.

The site is expanding already, but keep in mind that it can only expand as fast as we contribute to it. I think the optional subscriber route would be a very good route for CAG to take. That way, those of us who wouldn't mind paying some pocket change( and seriously, no matter how cheap you are, $50/yr is pocket change), can help the site grow, and watch our money put to good use. And those who don't, wont be affected by the changes.

Anyway, that went on a little longer than I had intended. You guys just seemed to get far too bent out of shape over a little idea.

Abridged version for those who don't like to read.
Yes, I would pay for more content.

[lordwow]

I'll pass on paying, thanks. I'm all for advertisements, but this is... Cheap... Ass... Gamer... not "pay for overpriced games gamer"

[doraemonkerpal]

Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live and Goozex? Maybe not all of them for everyone, but I bet you everyone pays for at least one.

I don't subscribe to any monthly/rental services you listed. :lol:

[Quintessence]

If they did more shows, I'd get the feeling that they wouldn't have enough to talk about... I don't think I'd care to hear Cheapy's weather forecasts in Japan or hear about his run ins with Godzilla.


Not only that, but I think part of CheapyD's and Wombat's appeal is that they only interact on a limited basis, and that means that we get a really good show each week, instead of many mediocre ones through the week.

[woejipums]

Blaine, why don't you just start sending them a check every week. If you like what the guys are doing so much and have an interest in helping them improve, I am sure Cheapy could use a few extra bux to pay for the new servers.

[danny90044]

Nope!
I din't pay for the computer I'm using, or the internet I'm using, so i'm sure I wouldn't pay for CAGcast.
But hey Mr. fatcat if you can afford it than that might be cool.

[siderealshift]

Maybe you can just pay Cheapy and Wombat to call you once a week. I'm sure they'll gladly accept the money. :Dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/sidereal_shift/Emoticons/drphil2.jpg

[Scorch]

This may be the first instance where i've seen someone go "Free? Nah, I want to pay for it. Take my money."

[Fuzi0n]

I think they would run out of things to talk about pretty fast, also I don't think either of them have enough time to do one everyday or even more often. Just my 2 cents.

[Blaine]

This may be the first instance where i've seen someone go "Free? Nah, I want to pay for it. Take my money."

...I'm saying I think that paying them will help make a better CAGcast because they can devote themselves to it more. Not that the current CAGcast is worth $50, but that I think an improved and expanded CAG network would be.

Blaine, why don't you just start sending them a check every week. If you like what the guys are doing so much and have an interest in helping them improve, I am sure Cheapy could use a few extra bux to pay for the new servers.'

If it were specifically something that I thought a solitary effort would accomplish - not that you know me but, don't you think I would?

It's probably not going to make a difference if one guy does it.

And again, running the risk of being a tool, it also doesn't matter for everyone that says "no".

If I say "I'll give $50, who's with me?" and 5 people say "no". Grand total = $50.
500 people say "no". Grand total = $50. 500 people says "no" and two other guys say "yes", Grand total = $150.

For this example a "no" doesn't offset a "yes".

To take the edge off of the assholeness, I do want to hear what people say. I am genuinely interested... just don't be too offended if I'm undeterred by the "no"s.

[H.Cornerstone]

I highly recommend Podcast BEYOND!

[soccerstud652]

Well, to answer the OP, I'd gladly pay for a daily show.

[HotShotX]

As an Engineer, I've come across the following mantra when it comes to acquiring goods and services:

Cost
Time
Quality

You only get two of the three.

1. If you don't want to pay and get podcasts frequently, expect shitty podcasts.
2. If you don't want to pay and get awesome podcasts, expect them to take a while to make.
3. If you want awesome podcasts frequently, expect to pay for them.

Even though the CAG community could foot the bill, and let CheapyD & Wombat carry on quality and frequency, their supply of quality is finite and therefore cannot be increased with money. As many have also said, it goes against the purpose of the site.

~HotShotX

[SeanNOLA]

I don't think it necessarily comes down to CAGs having to pay for Cheapy and Wombat to have more frequent podcasts. To be honest, if they tried, they would probably get burned out on eachother. One of the things that makes the podcasts work so well is that Cheapy and Wombat can't talk to one another very often, which gives them more to talk about on the podcasts. More frequent CAGcasts would mean less to talk about which may equal shorter or less interesting episodes.

I think a better solution would be to create another spinoff show, like Foreplay, for release on Wednesdays. That way, working stiffs like Blaine and I only have to go CAGless on tuesdays and thursdays. I'm sure there are some amateur podcasters out there on CAG that could make a smooth transition into a new CAGcast.

[Xrazor]

I dont pay for any of them >.> thats why i'm a "Cheap Ass" Gamer, I love the coupons and deals CAG gets me!

[Jackal888]

Let Advertisers pay. Advertisement would almost guarantee a weekly show on time. Contracts are binding and people want their monies worth. I rather have ads than pay to hear fart jokes.

[SeanNOLA]

Hey Blaine,
Thanks for the podcast list!

[Slim Gatsby]

Goozex isn't a monthly service and I think I've bought trade credits exactly once...and immediately after that referrals kicked in and brought me up to 20 or so.

[souljah420]

blaine it looks like u wasted a good amount of time in this thread - why dont u just post more often and reply to everyone that flames you - that should make your time at work fly by

[hiccupleftovers]

Like fucking hell I'm paying. I think CAG is a great site in all, but there is no way that I'm going to be paying for the CAGcast. It's fun, a good time waster, but again, not worth $50. Don't get me wrong, I love the site, Cheapy is the man, but not $50. No, not $10. Oh, have I made myself clear: no payment for CAGcast. Zip - zero - zilch.

[Wlogan31]

Alright. Educate me further.

CAG's are willing to pay for...? What?

Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live and Goozex? Maybe not all of them for everyone, but I bet you everyone pays for at least one.

To me, being a CAG is about getting value for your money.

Agree w/ the value portion of your argument, but I do not pay for Netflix, Gamefly, Gametap, Live, Goozex, etc. NONE of that...

[LiK]

pay? no. i love Cheapy and Wombat but i pay enough for other stuff already. a podcast would be last on my list.

[Anthem]

I love the CAGcast, but can't see me ever paying for it. Like others have already stated, other free podcasts dispense insider information and the like. Sure it's fair to say that people pay for other services, but that's not a valid response when it comes to "Hey, what's one more?"

I can see myself donating to CAG, and even participating in charity events, but no, not paying a subscription. I'm not sure if this is what Cheapy would want anyway, as a site owner myself, I feel as if actively visiting/digging a website, and spreading the word, is more than I could hope to ask for/expect from a community.

[Blaine]

I love the CAGcast, but can't see me ever paying for it. Like others have already stated, other free podcasts dispense insider information and the like. Sure it's fair to say that people pay for other services, but that's not a valid response when it comes to "Hey, what's one more?"

I can see myself donating to CAG, and even participating in charity events, but no, not paying a subscription. I'm not sure if this is what Cheapy would want anyway, as a site owner myself, I feel as if actively visiting/digging a website, and spreading the word, is more than I could hope to ask for/expect from a community.


And that's a fair point of view. I mean, I'm aware that in order for this to magically make this they're full time job would require a like 2,000 paid subscribers (assuming we wanna say $50k per is a good start considering they, like me, have a wonderful woman who makes more :)) which is an absurd proposition.

So what little spark could be started would only and can only work with what you've mentioned.

For starts it's a drop in a bucket but... It has to start someplace. It has to start sometime. What better place than here? What better time than now? *CUE THE MUSIC!!!*

[Alphant]

More podcast = shitty quality... how much do you think two guys have to talk about? As already stated here and many times Cheapy and Wombat already avoid talking to each other online. What's next?

The system is fine the way it is. Don't change it!

[PrarieD0G]

I would pay a small sum, but I think it might get boring doing podcasts more than once a week. I mean, imagine having to sit down for an hour every other day and talk about video games. It would just get old after a while. I think the CheapyD and Wombat might burn out on it after a while, and the show's quality would degrade; plus, I doubt they would have enough time.

I think its just fine the way it is. You can find plenty other video game podcasts (may I recommend GameZoneRadio) that are up to par with the CAGcast to fill in time in between.