View Full Version : IGN Responds to Cheapy...Not so good
XTommyDonX
02-13-2008, 10:06 PM
CheapyD Edit:
Here's the clip:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/podcast/threeredlightsclip.mp3
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/852/852084p1.html
They backfired at CAG.
Cheapy basically stated a well thought out idea about Blu-Ray on CAGcast 106 that was not offensive in any way. Cheapy even commented IGN's good points. IGN of course insisted on not even listening to the CAGcast and then attacked CAG.
It's about 56 minutes into the show, near the end. I don't mind if you want to share the thread in the CAGcast. It's not private or anything.
TehMuff1nM4n
02-13-2008, 10:07 PM
wait... what?
TehMuff1nM4n
02-13-2008, 10:22 PM
found it, its the last 16 minutes. Its a guy with a lisp!! :lol:
ogrenator
02-13-2008, 10:28 PM
I don't want to listen to the whole thing. What did they say and what did Cheapy say to make them respond?
lilboo
02-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Yeah I also don't care to listen, but what is this about ?
phear3d
02-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah I also don't care to listen, but what is this about ?
you should listen to the new cagcast, #106.
i was actually thinking about this while listening to the cagcast where cheapy mentioned ign's comment. i thought that they would backfire just cause they're immature and stupid. is this the same guy that was dissin' gabe over kane & lynch? tell him to stop by my house and i'll give him a beating.
DesertEagleXIX
02-13-2008, 10:39 PM
IGNorant Gaming Newbs
XTommyDonX
02-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Cheapy basically stated a well thought out idea about Blu-Ray that was not offensive in any way. Cheapy even commented IGN's good points. IGN of course insisted on not even listening to the CAGcast and then attacking CAG.
ryanbph
02-13-2008, 10:43 PM
are you refering to cheapy saying that blu ray wasn't going to be the driving force that hillary claimed it would be in this gen console race. If that is the case why the fuck would IGN even care. There were others on the podcast that didnt seem to think that blu ray would be such a big deal.
What was IGN's response. Please don't tell me that used the we are superior then other people in the industry bullshit they used on penny arcade. When they pointed out they were professional journalist and penny arcade was a comic.
whoknows
02-13-2008, 10:49 PM
What happened is Hillary on IGN said some stuff about the 360's demise and Cheapy said those reasons are silly and nonfactual. Hilary then calls Cheapy a fanboy and says Cheapy's comments are ludicrious and without factual basis and then invites Cheapy to be on their show to talk about it because he doesn't care about the cagcast and doesn't want to be on it.
XTommyDonX
02-13-2008, 10:51 PM
are you refering to cheapy saying that blu ray wasn't going to be the driving force that hillary claimed it would be in this gen console race. If that is the case why the fuck would IGN even care. There were others on the podcast that didnt seem to think that blu ray would be such a big deal.
What was IGN's response. Please don't tell me that used the we are superior then other people in the industry bullshit they used on penny arcade. When they pointed out they were professional journalist and penny arcade was a comic.
They kind of acted like that. Kind of acted like CAG was nothing compared to them.
help1
02-13-2008, 10:55 PM
Is Hillary a girl, or a boy with a girls name? If the later is true, just leave him alone, since he is obviously a victim of an abusive childhood.
blackjaw
02-13-2008, 10:55 PM
catfight!
KingDox
02-13-2008, 10:59 PM
What happened is Hillary on IGN said some stuff about the 360's demise and Cheapy said those reasons are silly and nonfactual. Hilary then calls Cheapy a fanboy and says Cheapy's comments are ludicrious and without factual basis and then invites Cheapy to be on their show to talk about it because he doesn't care about the cagcast and doesn't want to be on it.
I'm way to lazy to listen to both Pod Casts but did they imply that Cheapy is 360 fanboy? Didn't they watch this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcdcWgp6Ew
And if IGN doesn't like the site then fine. They can pay 60 bucks for games for the rest of time. See if I care. If anything they should be mad at people saying IGN Insider is a rip off.
dafoomie
02-13-2008, 11:00 PM
But... Blu-ray isn't a driving force the way DVD was for the PS2. Most people are still satisfied with DVD.
4 million Blu-Ray discs were sold last year. 1.7 billion DVD's were sold last year. Driving force? More like drop in the bucket.
CrimGhost
02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Did he say Chili D? Haha.
jughead
02-13-2008, 11:07 PM
Ugh... Those dudes were lame! I don't listen to that many podcasts but I've heard enough to know those guys don't belong anywhere near a public address. Sounded like a circle-jerk. Yikes!
CheapyD
02-13-2008, 11:16 PM
What happened is Hillary on IGN said some stuff about the 360's demise and Cheapy said those reasons are silly and nonfactual.
No, thats what the person who submitted the question wrote. I believe the word I used was "disagreed".
Anyway, more fodder for this week's show...I love it!
Blackout
02-13-2008, 11:19 PM
you should listen to the new cagcast, #106.
i was actually thinking about this while listening to the cagcast where cheapy mentioned ign's comment. i thought that they would backfire just cause they're immature and stupid. is this the same guy that was dissin' gabe over kane & lynch? tell him to stop by my house and i'll give him a beating.
Yeah I remember the cagcast played that clip. They got their panties in a bunch. Really, it's video games people. There's no need to prove who has the bigger gaming dick. Blu Ray alone is not going to crush the competition. There needs to be actual games along with it.
VanillaGorilla
02-13-2008, 11:29 PM
4 million Blu-Ray discs were sold last year. 1.7 billion DVD's were sold last year. Driving force? More like drop in the bucket. Helps that there were millions more DVD players than Blu Ray players. Back in 2000, you think anyone said "There were 1.7 Billion VHS tapes sold this year, and only 4 million of these Digital Video Disc things! Drop in the bucket!"
daphatty
02-13-2008, 11:30 PM
That has to have been the most pathetic response I have ever heard. What a self-absorbed douche. Cheapy shouldn't even waste his time responding to this guy.
lilboo
02-13-2008, 11:32 PM
That has to have been the most pathetic response I have ever heard. What a self-absorbed douche. Cheapy shouldn't even waste his time responding to this guy.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
jollydwarf
02-13-2008, 11:35 PM
(C + A + G) > (I + G + N)
Simple math, really.
Orion_of_Chaos
02-13-2008, 11:39 PM
They're just some assholes trying to start shit to raise the listener stats on their show. I fully expect something like this out of IGN every month of so, just so people keep coming back to see what everyone's pissed off about.
CouRageouS
02-13-2008, 11:43 PM
That has to have been the most pathetic response I have ever heard. What a self-absorbed douche. Cheapy shouldn't even waste his time responding to this guy.
The best response would just be a picture of CheapyD smiling while holding the best gaming podcast award.
mykevermin
02-13-2008, 11:47 PM
IGN's still around, huh?
whoknows
02-13-2008, 11:52 PM
No, thats what the person who submitted the question wrote. I believe the word I used was "disagreed".
Anyway, more fodder for this week's show...I love it!
I just went by what they said :)
And I have no idea who Hilary is so I guess :-P
IGNorant Gaming Newbs
Sick burn.
Simon D I
02-13-2008, 11:55 PM
The best response would just be a picture of CheapyD smiling while holding the best gaming podcast award.
Nice! Yeah, Cheapy, I agree with DaPhatty, don't even address this situation...just look how many hits listens their show got just from this thread! ( no offense to the o.p. )
Dunvane
02-13-2008, 11:56 PM
I love CAG and CheapyD... but guys, c'mon.
The 360 podcast is great. It's the only other one I listen to on a consistent basis. Quit being so mad that they talked about Cheapy and calm the hell down.
VanillaGorilla
02-13-2008, 11:56 PM
IGN's still around, huh?Well, IGN Wrestling aint, but the other ones are ;)
hiccupleftovers
02-14-2008, 12:04 AM
Wow, an inter-feud. Boring, who cares. I don't go to IGN anymore since they were bought out by Fox/Rupert Murdoch. They've turned into crap for a long time. I urge anyone with common sense to boycott everything Fox/Mudorch related
hiccupleftovers
02-14-2008, 12:06 AM
But... Blu-ray isn't a driving force the way DVD was for the PS2. Most people are still satisfied with DVD.
4 million Blu-Ray discs were sold last year. 1.7 billion DVD's were sold last year. Driving force? More like drop in the bucket.
I was just at BB today during lunch, but I overheard this exact sentiment. People keep talking about bluray and how they don't want to pay for the exact same movie they can get on DVD.
SteveMcQ
02-14-2008, 12:07 AM
Though I generally enjoy the IGN Games Podcasts, I've learned to ignore anything and everything they have to say about the next-gen movie format. A little while back they heralded Blu-Ray as the clearly superior format saying it was the more mature of the two formats. Hah.
Ikohn4ever
02-14-2008, 12:08 AM
i would like to see this debate
Trenchalicious
02-14-2008, 12:08 AM
Sony is probably paying them off like Circuit City, yeah I said it.
blueaurora
02-14-2008, 12:22 AM
I wouldn't doubt the pay off. At this point people are just going with the tide right now the tide is just coming in for bluray. The tide will also always recede to some degree.
I can't wait for Sony to flip everything given they have the rights to everything blu and to keep the prices inflated for much longer than would have been previously. These buy one get one sales won't be funded forever.
HotShotX
02-14-2008, 12:27 AM
File this under: "Who gives a shit about IGN".
~HotShotX
naiku
02-14-2008, 12:31 AM
who the hell is this guy anyways...Hilary? Obviously everyone has heard of IGN but has anyone actually heard of this guy before this forumpost? Almost pisses me off as much as the Mass Effect situation. Get ure facts right!! Good thing this guy doesn't have a large audience or he would really look like a fool.
daphatty
02-14-2008, 12:37 AM
I love CAG and CheapyD... but guys, c'mon.
The 360 podcast is great. It's the only other one I listen to on a consistent basis. Quit being so mad that they talked about Cheapy and calm the hell down.
If you think we are getting riled up over this then you would be mistaken. The IGN guy didn't even speak intelligently about the issue. What is there to get riled up about?
dafoomie
02-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Helps that there were millions more DVD players than Blu Ray players. Back in 2000, you think anyone said "There were 1.7 Billion VHS tapes sold this year, and only 4 million of these Digital Video Disc things! Drop in the bucket!"
DVD players and discs were selling like hotcakes when they came out, people were eager to move on from VHS. That isn't happening today, and those numbers support that conclusion.
The first year DVDs and DVD players were available in the US, 1997, they sold 2 million discs. The next year, they sold 7.2 million discs. By the time the PS2 had come out in 2000, 8.5 million DVD players had already been sold, most of them costing more than a grand a piece. This is what I call a "driving force" that propelled PS2 (which cost less than standalone DVD players at the time). Blu-Ray is simply not catching on at anywhere near the same rate that DVD did.
So yes, drop in the bucket. Its clearly not doing for the PS3 anything like what DVD did for the PS2. If anything, its PS3 thats helping the Blu-Ray format, which doesn't say much for how they're doing.
cochesecochese
02-14-2008, 12:53 AM
Cheapy. If they really did invite you to debate on their podcast then I think you should go on and get the free publicity BUT make sure the servers can handle the influx of related traffic.
darkcecil32
02-14-2008, 01:11 AM
Yea, Hilary does/did some reviews for the original xbox and xbox360. I still remember his review of Assassin's Creed. After treating the game like a godsend, he pretty much contradicted all the previews/hands on from before and essentially said the game was severely lacking. I personally stopped going to ign for anything other than daily news after Reverend David Francis Smith and Dave Zdyrko left way back in the day.
SteveMcQ
02-14-2008, 01:36 AM
In case you've just listened to this particular TRL (Three Red Lights) podcast, Hilary says a lot of things tongue in cheek/to get the audience riled up. I'll listen to it later this week, but just be aware, don't take everything he says too seriously.
twanky
02-14-2008, 01:55 AM
I'd say just ignore the situation.
KingBroly
02-14-2008, 02:36 AM
Maybe Cheapy should know that the Fox Corporation owns IGN. Just saying.
Does it really matter why a Console pulls into first, or SECOND place for this generation? No. It only depends on how you become #1. Nintendo did something new, the others didn't, period. They're winning. Microsoft isn't, Sony isn't.
Why are people arguing who gets Second Place? There's no point.
Richlough
02-14-2008, 04:07 AM
I used to listen to the IGN podcasts when Kathleen from 1up was working there briefly .
They were alot better with her , she gave them a pulse .
After she left they made a comment or two about her , and I thought that was pretty shitty thing to do , not to mention unprofessional .
They had a show recently called GameSages , it was good .
I listened to it mostly because Jeff Gerstmann was on it .
Other than that IGN is totally a last resort for me .
Their news page is a mess , with too much bullshit mixed in .
who the hell is this guy anyways...Hilary? Obviously everyone has heard of IGN but has anyone actually heard of this guy before this forumpost? Almost pisses me off as much as the Mass Effect situation. Get ure facts right!! Good thing this guy doesn't have a large audience or he would really look like a fool.
First off, IGN has ... six million subscribers? Eight? Something like that. That doesn't mean most or even many listen to the podcasts, but they don't have a large audience: they have a HUGE audience.
More importantly though, Hil Goldstein is the primary editor of the IGN Xbox channels. If he's suddenly a huge Blu Ray proponent, it's likely sarcasm.
hcamacho
02-14-2008, 05:16 AM
This is to you IGN.......I don't have a HDTV,and I have a 360, ok.........And that means I dont have a HD dvd player, nor I am interested yet...The thing is when the ps2 got released dvd was one major force driving the sales of the system, why IGN morons?Because everyone had a SDTV(standard definition TV)Now if I want to have a HD dvd player, I have to buy a HDTV,and nowadays the economy is not as good as it was back in the day........CheappyD, why the big corporations try to get on you?They must envy you?Who cares, still the best podcast is the cheapassgamer one!!!!!
MSUHitman
02-14-2008, 05:25 AM
I was beat to it but Hilary is the XBox section EIC, and has been with IGN since the Dreamcast days. They are pretty negative most of the time about Microsoft, saying the games are what is giving them the lead currently over Sony.
At the beginning of every episode, they read a list of all the listeners and message board subscribers whose XBox 360's died the previous week and have a moment of silence for them (hence why the podcast is called Three Red Lights.) They also make fun of Microsoft VP Jeff Bell by having one of those hotel/bank/office secretary table bells calling it Jeff Bell and anytime someone says anything like PR speak, they read a PR speak quote, or says slang trying to sound cool, they ring the bell.
On every podcast since CES, they have been criticizing Microsoft heavily on their continued backing of HD-DVD and saying this will be the PS3's year because everyone is going to buy it after Sony drops the price again so they get a next-gen game system and movie player in one box and Sony (in their eyes) will have the software and network to compete with Microsoft. They also say Microsoft should make XBox Live free because it's a ripoff, but they never will because people pay them for it.
They will also rant about 20 minutes on Lost, what's coming out for the Wii (even though there's a sepearate Wii podcast), talk about how much their podcasts sucks and say no one should be listening, or many other rants so I don't know how seriously you can take them. I can already hear Cheapy now, "it doesn't matter who this is because no one knows him as IGN XBox EIC Hilary Goldstein, people just think of him as faceless/nameless IGN writer who could be easily replaced and few would care."
I was an IGN Insider from Dec. 2000 until this month, mainly for their message boards. I miss the boards but most of the people I really liked are XBox Live friends and I like the community here much more. Our collective IQ is probably 5 times greater than IGN's subscriber base, although it outnumbers ours greatly. The IGN podcasts play to that subscriber base all the time. Listening to the vast majority of the emails they get makes me cry for our public education system. People email them like they're the ones making the games and complaining about what's not in them and they should add X into X game.
I'm so glad I've saved that $20-$25 per year now.
AshesofWake
02-14-2008, 05:34 AM
lol, internetz, seriouz buzinezz
This ain't even news. I could give two shits about what IGN says about...anything, let alone be bothered to listen to whatever circle jerk they're calling a podcast.
Jackal888
02-14-2008, 06:43 AM
nobody has ever called CheapyD a Xbox fanboy before... this is not news.
i agree with IGN's forecast of Xbox not having on paper a good lineup for 2008.
DarkNessBear
02-14-2008, 06:48 AM
I don't listen to dudes that have the same name as my girlfriend.
Awkward.
vanilla_shakin_it
02-14-2008, 06:53 AM
I think cheapy should not ignore this. First of all we all know he won't. Why? Because it's entertaining and he knows it. Remember the Penny Arcade Sucks episode? The ign stuff they aired was hilarious. This should be too. I don't think we should tell cheapy to ignore this when we know it's gonna be funny.
hcamacho
02-14-2008, 07:03 AM
this ign episode will get to kotaku's maing page today, and destructoid....it's the little corporations against the giant corporations.....it's a war already declared first penny arcade, now cag, then what's next?
Simon D I
02-14-2008, 11:03 AM
I don't listen to dudes that have the same name as my girlfriend.
Hahahaha! Good call!
But yeah, I'm just disappointed that Goldstein reacted like a immature little kid. (without even hearing Cheapy's comment himself) I mean....IGN ARE THE PROFESSIONALS! You would think they'd take a moment to listen to the comment!
Anyways, Cheapy, if you decide to go on IGN, please give them CAGHELL!!!!!!
sublime90
02-14-2008, 01:23 PM
hilary said "who's cheapy d?" cheapy give him a call set that up, would be hilarious
is it from the same guy who was yelling at Penny-Arcade when PA criticized IGN about something? IGN needs to learn to be more professional but i guess that's too much for them. this is the reason why i don't listen to IGN's podcasts. the only one i listened to recently was Gamesages and it was because they had Shoe and Gerstmann on together which was awesome.
sublime90
02-14-2008, 02:05 PM
is it from the same guy who was yelling at Penny-Arcade when PA criticized IGN about something? IGN needs to learn to be more professional but i guess that's too much for them. this is the reason why i don't listen to IGN's podcasts. the only one i listened to recently was Gamesages and it was because they had Shoe and Gerstmann on together which was awesome.
no that was jeff not hilary lol
no that was jeff not hilary lol
haha, okay, thanks. seems like they're all sensitive guys. :booty:
phear3d
02-14-2008, 04:35 PM
I love CAG and CheapyD... but guys, c'mon.
The 360 podcast is great. It's the only other one I listen to on a consistent basis. Quit being so mad that they talked about Cheapy and calm the hell down.
it could be great if they all act their age and become more professional. IGN is an established presence in this industry so they should be careful in bashing other people. they are being immature. they need to listen to that cagcast again and humiliate themselves.
hilary said "who's cheapy d?"
its funny that you mention this. but the last i recall, people look are other peoples game review. but they dont look at their names or even gives a shit on whos reviewing what. so whos hilary again?
its funny that you mention this. but the last i recall, people look are other peoples game review. but they dont look at their names or even gives a shit on whos reviewing what. so whos hilary again?
he's one of the most hated reviewers on IGN, it's pretty funny how much he gets flamed whenever he reviews a new game :lol:
XTommyDonX
02-14-2008, 04:56 PM
Their smart-mouth attitude is definately one of the reasons for their comments being more offensive. They show almost no respect for CAG and other sites. This is because they think so highly of themselves on their fake radio show with no quality whatsoever. They call themselves "professionals" yet they act completely childish, even compared to other IGN podcasts, such as Wii-k in review.
InuFaye
02-14-2008, 05:08 PM
lol internetz.
It'sMagneto
02-14-2008, 05:09 PM
lol Ign.
radjago
02-14-2008, 05:11 PM
DVD players and discs were selling like hotcakes when they came out, people were eager to move on from VHS. That isn't happening today, and those numbers support that conclusion.
The first year DVDs and DVD players were available in the US, 1997, they sold 2 million discs. The next year, they sold 7.2 million discs. By the time the PS2 had come out in 2000, 8.5 million DVD players had already been sold, most of them costing more than a grand a piece. This is what I call a "driving force" that propelled PS2 (which cost less than standalone DVD players at the time). Blu-Ray is simply not catching on at anywhere near the same rate that DVD did.
So yes, drop in the bucket. Its clearly not doing for the PS3 anything like what DVD did for the PS2. If anything, its PS3 thats helping the Blu-Ray format, which doesn't say much for how they're doing.
It didn't help that they had to fight a battle at retail with HD-DVD, whereas DVD had no competitor, unless you count Laserdisc, which no one ever does. HDTV adoption rates in the US are lagging and HD movie buyers are a subset of HDTV owners. Subscription movie services, legal and illegal movie downloads and copies are all taking a bite out of the pie from Blu-Ray. There's no way that Blu-Ray will ever come close to the success that DVD was. I can't think of any consumer electronics technology that has caught on and grown as fast.
guinaevere
02-14-2008, 05:48 PM
Wow, an inter-feud. Boring, who cares. I don't go to IGN anymore since they were bought out by Fox/Rupert Murdoch. They've turned into crap for a long time. I urge anyone with common sense to boycott everything Fox/Mudorch related
They were bought by News Corporation of which Murdoch is the chairman and CEO. Fox, 20th Century Fox and it's relations are also owned by NWS, but Fox does not own IGN, just as it doesn't own Barrons, Harper Collins, TV Guide or other NWS holdings.
But have fun, boycott if it makes you feel good.
usickenme
02-14-2008, 06:29 PM
This just in... CAGs have no sense of humor and are more sensative than a bunch of 13 year old girls on their first period.
I mean really people. As one poster said, it was clearly tongue in cheek. (And actually even if it was unintentional, it is a funny comment on the last couple of Cagcasts where some posters accused Cheapy of the same thing).
Also, Didn't Cheapy do the same a while back by comparing alexa results with some podcast that called him out? I like the CAGcast, I like the IGN podcasts but let's face it, neither have a monoply on maturity or are above name-calling.
shipwreck
02-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Just listened to the clip and I'd have to agree that the guy was just joking around. Seems like his schtick is being upset at stuff and it was clearly only read to get him to respond in this way.
Just listened to the clip and I'd have to agree that the guy was just joking around. Seems like his schtick is being upset at stuff and it was clearly only read to get him to respond in this way.
Yep, it's just Hilary being Hilary. He's a jerk, but in a light-hearted way.
dafoomie
02-14-2008, 08:49 PM
It didn't help that they had to fight a battle at retail with HD-DVD, whereas DVD had no competitor, unless you count Laserdisc, which no one ever does. HDTV adoption rates in the US are lagging and HD movie buyers are a subset of HDTV owners. Subscription movie services, legal and illegal movie downloads and copies are all taking a bite out of the pie from Blu-Ray. There's no way that Blu-Ray will ever come close to the success that DVD was. I can't think of any consumer electronics technology that has caught on and grown as fast.
All true. I'm not criticizing Blu-Ray as much as I'm trying to point out that DVD was a sales phenomenon that we might not see again.
H.Cornerstone
02-14-2008, 08:54 PM
Even if it is tongue and cheek, I never liked hilary, and never will. and agree with Cheapy, while Blu-ray is a selling point of the PS3, it's nothing more than a feature. What will drive the sale of the PS3 will be it's exclusives, such as MGS 4 and Little Big Planet. Exclusives are always the system selling points of a system, always will be.
firehawk12
02-14-2008, 09:12 PM
I thought this was just like when CheapyD and Wombat were joking about the PA guys eating each other's shit. It was just a joke - they also made a 1up joke about James Milke, new EIC of 1up "Video Games".
Besides, they call their podcast Three Red Lights and use a bell they call Jeff Bell, so really...
PawnTakesKing
02-14-2008, 09:25 PM
Geez, someone makes one off-the-cuff comment about Cheapy and the whole site goes up in arms.
Fact: Hilary Goldstein is a dick. Anyone who listens to the IGN podcasts on a regular basis knows this. It's how he copes with having a girl's name. However, part of his whole character is making a lot of sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek comments just to get listeners riled up. Sadly, 95% of everyone here seems to have taken the bait. Hilary's probably laughing his ass off at how many of you he got to download and listen to the Three Red Lights podcast.
I'm as anxious to hear Cheapy's response as the next guy, but some of you take the internetz way too seriously.
Ivanhoe
02-14-2008, 10:11 PM
99.9% of all podcasts suck.
IGN as a website sucks and the IGN insider pay for free information sucks to.
Do not support IGN. I will not waste my time listening to a stupid IGN podcast.
Maybe IGNs podcast needs more hits and are trying to get cags to come and help them out?
I will wait until the next Cagcast is uploaded to hear about it.
Cagcast = Awesome.
SteveMcQ
02-14-2008, 10:32 PM
Lighten up guys. As his fellow IGN editors stated themselves, that is Hillary being Hillary. The "To Catch An Editor" Podcast stated directly that riling up people and being an ass is perhaps how Hillary makes up for his name. That's people that work with him day in, day out.
cochesecochese
02-14-2008, 10:35 PM
Lighten up guys. As his fellow IGN editors stated themselves, that is Hillary being Hillary. The "To Catch An Editor" Podcast stated directly that riling up people and being an ass is perhaps how Hillary makes up for his name. That's people that work with him day in, day out.
Ass or not, can anyone clear up whether or not he invited Cheapy onto the IGN podcast?
SteveMcQ
02-14-2008, 10:42 PM
Ass or not, can anyone clear up whether or not he invited Cheapy onto the IGN podcast?Yes, he did. Initially, he stated he'd come on the CAGcast and then added he'd contact Cheapy or Cheapy could contact them and they'd be happy to have him on.
I finally listened to it. This was clearly Hillary being Hillary. Stand down CAGs. Not that big of a deal. He's an editor who knows how to troll and piss people off. I rather enjoy his personality on the podcasts.
pimpinc333
02-14-2008, 10:51 PM
Who or what is a Hillary Goldstein? Also why is she a dick? I don't follow these podcasts at all.
InuFaye
02-14-2008, 11:20 PM
He was just being a dick, I laugh at everyone who went up in arms about this.
Its a joke people.
Jesus lighten up.
jer7583
02-14-2008, 11:59 PM
Everyone who says "She" about Hilary makes me laugh a lot.
cochesecochese
02-15-2008, 12:17 AM
Yes, he did. Initially, he stated he'd come on the CAGcast and then added he'd contact Cheapy or Cheapy could contact them and they'd be happy to have him on.
I finally listened to it. This was clearly Hillary being Hillary. Stand down CAGs. Not that big of a deal. He's an editor who knows how to troll and piss people off. I rather enjoy his personality on the podcasts.
I still think Cheapy should go on. Publicity ++
Xenomorph52
02-15-2008, 12:25 AM
it could be great if they all act their age and become more professional. IGN is an established presence in this industry so they should be careful in bashing other people. they are being immature. they need to listen to that cagcast again and humiliate themselves.Immature? I don't recall IGN having a ten minute segment about how they almost shit their pants once. Though I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Both shows are immature, and it's awesome. I'd clip the actual part where they mentioned CAG, but I'm about to fall asleep as I type this. When they "called out" Cheapy D they weren't serious. Learn to take some jokes, sirs.
Oh, and Cheapy needs to take them up on their offer. That'd be great.
Nixon's Revenge
02-15-2008, 03:41 AM
Up until this was posted, I had no idea who Hilary was or that IGN even had a 360 podcast.
Gotta agree with Cheapy on the latest episode as well, must have been a bitch growing up with a girl's name.
DarkNessBear
02-15-2008, 05:14 AM
lol internetz.
seriuz bizzness
threesixeight
02-15-2008, 08:04 AM
Ah man, where to begin. I wonder how many of the people who complained about IGN not bothering to listen to Cheapy bothered to listen to an episode of Three Red Lights? Listen to just one and you'll see that Hilary was just joking around to be an ass. They don't take themselves seriously and never have. As someone else pointed out at the end of each show they apologise to there listeners for making another terrible podcast. All the people jumping up and down about this need to relax, don't take them seriously because they don't even take themselves seriously. Even the PA rant done by Hilary (as Rob the Robot) was just him being a douche to be funny, so chill.
And the guy who said "Who's CheapyD?" wasn't Hilary, it was Nate Ahearn, the most annoying guy on any podcast anywhere.
CheapyD
02-15-2008, 08:31 AM
I added the clip to the OP for easy reference.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/podcast/threeredlightsclip.mp3
I added the clip to the OP for easy reference.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/podcast/threeredlightsclip.mp3
i heard the clip, i hate when unfunny people try to be funny.
vanilla_shakin_it
02-15-2008, 11:46 AM
Who or what is a Hillary Goldstein? Also why is she a dick? I don't follow these podcasts at all.
Oh I get it...cuz it's a guy but you said she...
Blaine
02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
I... hmm.
Look, obviously you can only go by what you know. So perception can always be clouded by ignorance. For example, my perception is...
I, of course, know of IGN but... until Cheapy mentioned it, I never even heard of that podcast. Even right now, looking through iTunes (which is not comprehensive and definitive) you have to dig under IGN to find "Three Red Lights".
And this may be incorrect but... with 24 episodes, asides from the "IGN" tag... who are they? Do they even have a larger audience than the CAGcast?
When Tai was born, it was news on the big gaming blogs (according to Alexa). Frankly Cheapy posts a video, it's news. I've neither seen nor heard, that I'm aware of, anything those guys doing making the blogs.
If I had to guess - they seem to have a fascinating blend of jealousy and hubris. They talk down on the CAGcast and Cheapy but both him and his show seem to be more popular.
Snake2715
02-15-2008, 12:26 PM
No, thats what the person who submitted the question wrote. I believe the word I used was "disagreed".
Anyway, more fodder for this week's show...I love it!
My guess is thats what they want... more listeners from Cag to listen to their cast.
j.elles
02-15-2008, 12:32 PM
This is deliberate you guys. These are the same guys who had some guy do a wierd voice tha was "rob" from the nes days. There just having fun and trying to get a rise out of crazy people who take this stuff to seriously.
SteveMcQ
02-15-2008, 01:51 PM
I'm pretty sure they don't care about an audience for their podcast. It's merely an addendum to their coverage on the site rather than a featured item weekly. It's actually becoming quite laughable that some are turning this into a popularity contest of who has a bigger audience to a podcast. On the flip side, I would guess IGN and the 360 channel has a bigger audience than CAG.
cgarb84
02-15-2008, 02:36 PM
He was just being a dick, I laugh at everyone who went up in arms about this.
Its a joke people.
Jesus lighten up.
This is the truth. I don't think any of this warrants a second thought. Why the hell are people getting so upset about this.
If anything we should be happy, this is really great pub for CAG. Cheapy would be awesome on an IGN podcast, or Hilary would be an awesome guest on the cagcast. C'mon people, wise up, this isn't a big deal.
Blaine
02-15-2008, 02:48 PM
It's actually becoming quite laughable that some are turning this into a popularity contest of who has a bigger audience to a podcast.
Seems a valid metric for comparison considering - joking, sure... but, they were kinda disparaging about Cheapy.
On the flip side, I would guess IGN and the 360 channel has a bigger audience than CAG.
IGN as a whole, sure, but again - this is my opinion, my perception... but for these guys on the podcast... They personally are nobodys. Cheapy may be B list internet celebrity but he's at least someone.
All of this is probably pointless circle talking since they very likely were joking.
FoxHoundADAM
02-15-2008, 03:07 PM
While I agree Hilary was just kidding during that section but he such an @$$hole I can't stand that guy. In fact that whole IGN cast is a bunch of idiots, they think they are really funny but really are just a bunch of blabering fools.
Don't get me wrong Cheapy has his a-hole moments as well, but at least he is upfront about his views (and doesn't yell into the mic!). He calls it like he see's it.
vanilla_shakin_it
02-15-2008, 05:15 PM
This is the truth. I don't think any of this warrants a second thought. Why the hell are people getting so upset about this.
If anything we should be happy, this is really great pub for CAG. Cheapy would be awesome on an IGN podcast, or Hilary would be an awesome guest on the cagcast. C'mon people, wise up, this isn't a big deal.
You would think that the word sarcasm is not known to most members here. I've never listened to an ign podcast before or know who this hilary guy is and I could tell it was a joke. Even a moderator came on here saying that this guy was a huge douche and that cheapy shouldn't even pay attention to it. Simmer down a little guys.
javeryh
02-15-2008, 05:29 PM
i heard the clip, i hate when unfunny people try to be funny.
I agree 100%. The whole thing is just silly.
Nephlabobo
02-16-2008, 02:43 AM
Wow......immature and degrading.
What a bunch of fucking wankers.
SteveMcQ
02-16-2008, 02:48 AM
Poop stories and joking about having strangers sleep with your wife.
i heard the clip, i hate when unfunny people try to be funny.
Agreed. If you're going to get your shit wrong at least be funny.
Fuzi0n
02-16-2008, 04:48 AM
i heard the clip, i hate when unfunny people try to be funny.
QFT.
Kendro
02-16-2008, 09:49 AM
Who cares? In X amount of years whenever Hilary leaves IGN, he will be forgotten while Cheapy will always have an entire gaming community backing him up. It is pretty much a non-issue in my opinion.
i heard the clip, i hate when unfunny people try to be funny.
This sums it up.
Milkyman
02-16-2008, 10:31 AM
While I agree Hilary was just kidding during that section but he such an @$$hole I can't stand that guy. In fact that whole IGN cast is a bunch of idiots, they think they are really funny but really are just a bunch of blabering fools.
Don't get me wrong Cheapy has his a-hole moments as well, but at least he is upfront about his views (and doesn't yell into the mic!). He calls it like he see's it.
I actually really enjoy the three red lights podcast especially because of hillary. hillary, and that other guy with a girl's name Fran and matt catsmasteama are the only guys at IGN who's names I know. In that respect I agree with cheapy that most of them are take em or leave em, especially since it seems like they have a huge staff. I feel differently about 1up though, i know who all of them are and I care what they say except when it's about world of warcraft.
woejipums
02-16-2008, 01:26 PM
I think we should take the advise that Cheapy gave on the cast...leave Hillary alone. He has surely suffered enough going through life with a name like that. I don't really care if Cheapy goes on his podcast, because I don't listen to it. I do believe that it couldn't hurt to get his name out on another podcast and probably gain some listeners from the experience...
SNKMat
02-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Hil is douche
Nifty_Shark
02-17-2008, 02:06 AM
never really was able to get into the IGN posdcasts so I'll side with Cheapy on this one. Besides, Hil sounded like a douche when he answered that question.
StinkyCheese
02-17-2008, 07:41 AM
she sorry, HE sounds like a girl, and has a girls name. Sex change? more than likely
Access_Denied
02-17-2008, 11:16 AM
He tried to burn CheapyD without any facts/evidence, and instead, just threw out random insults and names. Seems like the kind of thing a two year old would do. Dumbass.
OVERKILL1972
02-17-2008, 05:13 PM
Eh, Hillary always talks crap. He's a just a smart ass. No big deal. I listen to the Three Red Lights podcast, and I knew right after Hillary made his comments that all the gaming geeks would freak out over it basically making something out of nothing.
OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT HILLARY FROM IGN SAID!!11!!!!111!!!11111111! Give me a break people. It's no big deal.
SteveMcQ
02-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Amazing how we forget how childish the CAGcast can be at times as well. I find all of it rather amusing anyway.
OVERKILL1972
02-17-2008, 05:34 PM
Amazing how we forget how childish the CAGcast can be at times as well. I find all of it rather amusing anyway.
Exactly. I'm also sure Cheapy isn't losing any sleep over it either. Like he really cares. Like Hillary really cares. The only people who seem to care are a bunch of disgruntled CAG Fanboys.
bsesb2003
02-17-2008, 06:27 PM
Seems like some good fun to me, the podcasts should be fun.
Unickuta
02-17-2008, 08:08 PM
That has to have been the most pathetic response I have ever heard. What a self-absorbed douche. Cheapy shouldn't even waste his time responding to this guy.
QFT
Wow, an inter-feud. Boring, who cares. I don't go to IGN anymore since they were bought out by Fox/Rupert Murdoch. They've turned into crap for a long time. I urge anyone with common sense to boycott everything Fox/Mudorch related
While I've got to admit that Murdoch's empire sucks, I'm so damn sick of boycotting things that I've given up entirely. It's not like I watch Fox News and browse IGN 24/7 anyways.
Though I generally enjoy the IGN Games Podcasts, I've learned to ignore anything and everything they have to say about the next-gen movie format. A little while back they heralded Blu-Ray as the clearly superior format saying it was the more mature of the two formats. Hah.
They were actually right you know...and judging by your post and by your sig, you're a little behind the times. :D
SteveMcQ
02-17-2008, 08:25 PM
They were actually right you know...and judging by your post and by your sig, you're a little behind the times. :DRegardless of how the format wars have turned up, it's debatable which hardware was the more mature of the two. The specs were clearly defined and similar across the board for one, while the other is still finding a uniform standard.
My sig hasn't changed for the past two years. More than me showing support for my home team, the large blue text makes it easier for me to follow up my posts. You'll then probably wonder why I need to do that, but I often read threads back to my last post.
Thanks for playing.
cgarb84
02-17-2008, 11:58 PM
Ok I finally listened to this weeks cagcast and all I have to say to everyone upset about this is....... WTF are you guys completely retarded? CheapyD isn't even upset by this..... AT ALL. Hilary from IGN is so clearly joking about the entire thing you have to be a complete douche to think otherwise. THERE IS NO STORY HERE. CheapyD wins in all of this anyways, great pub for the site on a big time gaming podcast. Sometimes the CheapyD love on this site borders on stalker levels. Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down about this whole thing.
Unickuta
02-18-2008, 12:15 AM
My sig hasn't changed for the past two years. More than me showing support for my home team, the large blue text makes it easier for me to follow up my posts. You'll then probably wonder why I need to do that, but I often read threads back to my last post.
No, I'm just a Giants fan. :D
Jigsaw-
02-18-2008, 12:39 AM
Well i can't believe what i started. Believe it or not this was because of me because on that one podcast that cheapy heard,well it was me who asked hil about the situation. I told hil why would 360 be in trouble if xbox was more powerful last gen and ps2 still had the games. And then they argued till the podcast ended. This was my first ever question too asked in a podcast.
bostonfrontier
02-18-2008, 12:44 AM
Will there be a lawsuit similar to that from Circuitcity?
SteveMcQ
02-18-2008, 12:53 AM
No, I'm just a Giants fan. :DHigh five. I'm a Manning fan. Either one.
cgarb84
02-18-2008, 12:16 PM
Well i can't believe what i started. Believe it or not this was because of me because on that one podcast that cheapy heard,well it was me who asked hil about the situation. I told hil why would 360 be in trouble if xbox was more powerful last gen and ps2 still had the games. And then they argued till the podcast ended. This was my first ever question too asked in a podcast.
Haha don't sweat it. This is some good pub for cag. Despite what it may seem like the only people who are upset are the people who have posted in this topic bashing Hilary. No one else on the planet Earth gives a shit.