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Acrylic
08-11-2004, 10:16 PM
^topic^

All of the minority (or wahtever you wanna be called) people of the forums, how do you feel when people refer to you as a minority?

Ive just been curious about this for a long time now.

Jaket
08-11-2004, 10:21 PM
no

Sheik Rattle Enroll
08-11-2004, 10:21 PM
What'd you call me?
















Joke :(

crazytalkx
08-11-2004, 10:25 PM
nope and if they can't handle it TOO BAD!

Moxio
08-11-2004, 10:28 PM
Heh, no way.

XboxMaster
08-11-2004, 10:38 PM
nope and if they can't handle it TOO BAD!

:lol: , I like your attitude.

magilacudy
08-11-2004, 10:42 PM
Nope.

epobirs
08-11-2004, 10:43 PM
I refuse to be responsible for the irrationality of others.

Javery
08-11-2004, 10:53 PM
I refuse to be responsible for the irrationality of others.

Agreed. If people want to start calling me a "majority" I could care less - people are way too PC these days...

fireball343
08-11-2004, 10:58 PM
i don't really see certian so called minorites as minorites. no offense to anyone but they all don't stay minorites forever and i'm sick of them having that name and getting benifits for it. if you really are a minority, then it's okay.

not trying to start a flame war but just my opinon. simply put:
just cuz you where a minority in 1970 doesn't mean you are now. and you should lose the name, and the benifts that come with it. i think to many groups are minorites that really aren't(only one or two)

again no offense just my opinon.

crazytalkx
08-11-2004, 11:00 PM
i don't really see certian so called minorites as minorites. no offense to anyone but they all don't stay minorites forever and i'm sick of them having that name and getting benifits for it. if you really are a minority, then it's okay.

not trying to start a flame war but just my opinon. simply put:
just cuz you where a minority in 1970 doesn't mean you are now. and you should lose the name, and the benifts that come with it. i think to many groups are minorites that really aren't(only one or two)

again no offense just my opinon.

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! j/k Yeah, too many people getting too many free benefits. Aren't we all supposed to be equal, btw there go our tax dollars.

fireball343
08-11-2004, 11:03 PM
here's another easier way to put what i said,(doesn't cancel what i said earlier)

It's OVER USED. if your not caucasian, your a minority. that's what it's become

Acrylic
08-11-2004, 11:43 PM
I refuse to be responsible for the irrationality of others.

Agreed. If people want to start calling me a "majority" I could care less - people are way too PC these days...

Oh I agree, people are becoming very politically correct. But by posting this thread, I was just wondering. And I was really curious about that for the longest time.

Graystone
08-12-2004, 12:10 AM
this might turn into a racist flame if it gets in the wrong hands so I will do what is needed.

LOCK'D

Acrylic
08-12-2004, 12:49 AM
this might turn into a racist flame if it gets in the wrong hands so I will do what is needed.

LOCK'D

WTF??

STFU.

If it starts getting out of hand then it'll be locked. No need to close it.

suko_32
08-12-2004, 12:52 AM
Are asians minorities?

Acrylic
08-12-2004, 12:54 AM
Are asians minorities?

In America, yes. Anyone that isn't white here in America is a minority.

Renzokuken
08-12-2004, 12:55 AM
Are asians minorities?

If so...meh

suko_32
08-12-2004, 01:06 AM
I knew that........guess I'm a minority. No one's ever called me a minority directly...so I dunno

ykryptonite13
08-12-2004, 01:09 AM
Asians are about only 4% of the US population believe it or not. So yeah, they are minorities. I'm Asian and do I care if I'm called a "minority?" I could give a rat's ass.

Acrylic
08-12-2004, 01:17 AM
If I went to Asia or Africa, Id be a minority. And I wouldnt care.

Down with PC!!! :shock: :P 8)

Tromack
08-12-2004, 01:27 AM
How can someone get offended by being called what they are? If a group of people are not a majority of the population, then they are a minority. It is the fucking definition. That's like saying, "Are males offended when they are referred to as males?".

stemartin7
08-12-2004, 01:37 AM
We should look at all people the same and not call them minorities.

levi333
08-12-2004, 02:28 AM
When its friends or people i know, i usually laugh with them.
Its only when random people turn it into an insult.

Im the only minority in my group of friends, only asian i know besides my family.

crazytalkx
08-12-2004, 02:28 AM
We should look at all people the same and not call them minorities.

Well said! We should all be treated equally crappy!

Acrylic
08-12-2004, 03:50 PM
We should look at all people the same and not call them minorities.

Well said! We should all be treated equally crappy!

wtf?

swetooth9
08-12-2004, 03:56 PM
Asians are about only 4% of the US population believe it or not. So yeah, they are minorities. I'm Asian and do I care if I'm called a "minority?" I could give a rat's ass.

same w/ me

Cornfedwb
08-12-2004, 03:58 PM
Jesus.. if people start getting offended at being called a minority.. we may as well just give up communication. There's nothing prejudicial about them being a minority, nor is it a slur. Of course I don't know of anyone who would really become upset about it.

epobirs
08-12-2004, 04:06 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Cornfedwb
08-12-2004, 04:08 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%

1SwtDeception
08-12-2004, 04:33 PM
i wouldn't give a shit if you call me a minority or any other racial crap .. for some reason a label or name calling would never affect me.. but then i dont care much for stuff like that

but Mm i recall on television that they were talkin about the majority will be the minority in the future since the US is a "melting pot"

Indiana
08-12-2004, 04:44 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%

Did you add up those totals! They do not make any sense!

Total 112.4%

Since Hispanic was done separately they must have fucked up the survey at some point and made a separate question. I'm glad our government can not even do a fucking survey! What the hell!

XboxMaster
08-12-2004, 04:51 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%


Holy shit, look at that Native American percentage. We must've killed most of 'em off when we took this country.

epobirs
08-12-2004, 05:06 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%

You're using a very limited criteria for minority status. The people who claim to be minorities encompass attributes far beyond race. Religion, for instance, has long been a major issue. Persecuted religious minorities often had no distinguishing differences in ancestry from the majority oppressors. The Nazis are described as anyi-semites but the majority of their Jewish victims were Ashkenazim, not Semites at all. They had a close common ancestry with their fellow Europeans but were nonetheless a minority who suffered for it.

Race and religion are now just bare basics in minority status claims. Sexual interests are now given protected status, as well as having suffered some special trauma that forever after gives entitlement to special treatment although the effects of the trauma are invisible to casual acquaintances. This has been great encouraged in acadamia as a way to give preferential treatment to students after laws are passed expressly forbidding that. There are now couselors in the UC system who specialize in guiding would-be student in producing resumes of tragedy. Just like puffing up minor work experience these take minor mishaps in life and inflate them to horrible adversities that in being overcome demonstrate how deserving the student is of admittance no matter how poor their SAT scores.

epobirs
08-12-2004, 05:11 PM
If your ancestors ever encounters signs that read 'IRISH NEED NOT APPLY' the lumping together of all Europeans as White is questionable.

Likewise for many who belong in the Native American category. Those with a strong tribal identification do not like being lumped in with every other tribe that ever existed on the continent, especially when some of those tribes were actively involved in hunting down their neighbors to extinction before the Europeans showed up and changed the game for everyone.

Cornfedwb
08-12-2004, 05:13 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%

You're using a very limited criteria for minority status. The people who claim to be minorities encompass attributes far beyond race. Religion, for instance, has long been a major issue. Persecuted religious minorities often had no distinguishing differences in ancestry from the minority oppressors. The Nazis are described as anyi-semites but the majority of their Jewish victims were Ashkenazim, not Semites at all. They had a close common ancestry with their fellow Europeans but were nonetheless a minority who suffered for it.

Race and religion are now just bare basics in minority status claims. Sexual interests are now given protected status, as well as having suffered some special trauma that forever after gives entitlement to special treatment although the effects of the trauma are invisible to casual acquaintances. This has been great encouraged in acadamia as a way to give preferential treatment to students after laws are passed expressly forbidding that. There are now couselors in the UC system who specialize in guiding would-be student in producing resumes of tragedy. Just like puffing up minor work experience these take minor mishaps in life and inflate them to horrible adversities that in being overcome demonstrate how deserving the student is of admittance no matter how poor their SAT scores.

Every single person on the planet can fit into one minority or another, hell you could say one-eyed, three-armed, jewish nuns are a minority. But when the word "minority" is used almost exclusively to describe racial minority.. otherwise you use "religious minority", "sexual minority", "academic minority", etc.. they require an adjective.

RBM
08-12-2004, 05:14 PM
Wow...even with a generous margin of error, we only comprise <5% of the population?? Then why am I always surrounded by chinese people every friggin day. I've got to stop hanging around in these damn research labs. Five percent. I would've thought it was around ten percent. No wonder I can't find a girl. Well, that and I seldom step out of doors. :shock:

Cornfedwb
08-12-2004, 05:14 PM
If your ancestors ever encounters signs that read 'IRISH NEED NOT APPLY' the lumping together of all Europeans as White is questionable.

Likewise for many who belong in the Native American category. Those with a strong tribal identification do not like being lumped in with every other tribe that ever existed on the continent, especially when some of those tribes were actively involved in hunting down their neighbors to extinction before the Europeans showed up and changed the game for everyone.

Again.. you can split hairs into Brown-haired Spanish Americans, One-legged German-Americans, fair-skinned Icelandic-Americans.. but its rediculous when trying to have a conversation about what we are. When saying the majority is no longer the majority.. you must consider the official ethnic divisions as a starting point.

epobirs
08-12-2004, 05:29 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%

You're using a very limited criteria for minority status. The people who claim to be minorities encompass attributes far beyond race. Religion, for instance, has long been a major issue. Persecuted religious minorities often had no distinguishing differences in ancestry from the minority oppressors. The Nazis are described as anyi-semites but the majority of their Jewish victims were Ashkenazim, not Semites at all. They had a close common ancestry with their fellow Europeans but were nonetheless a minority who suffered for it.

Race and religion are now just bare basics in minority status claims. Sexual interests are now given protected status, as well as having suffered some special trauma that forever after gives entitlement to special treatment although the effects of the trauma are invisible to casual acquaintances. This has been great encouraged in acadamia as a way to give preferential treatment to students after laws are passed expressly forbidding that. There are now couselors in the UC system who specialize in guiding would-be student in producing resumes of tragedy. Just like puffing up minor work experience these take minor mishaps in life and inflate them to horrible adversities that in being overcome demonstrate how deserving the student is of admittance no matter how poor their SAT scores.

Every single person on the planet can fit into one minority or another, hell you could say one-eyed, three-armed, jewish nuns are a minority. But when the word "minority" is used almost exclusively to describe racial minority.. otherwise you use "religious minority", "sexual minority", "academic minority", etc.. they require an adjective.

That is happening less and less as special case whining becomes ever more acceptable. The subsets of subsets may seem ridiculous until they get money out of public coffers as part of recognition for their needs as an oppressed group. Just recently we had a battle in a Calaifornia school district because a newly enacted state law would force new schools to include additional restrooms for students who claimed to be uncomfortable in either male or female designated facilities. Some openly religious school board members said screw that and were lambasted as bigots when the issue was really over the great expense this requirement would impose.

More recently we had the ACLU pressuring the City of Los Angeles to remove a tiny cross from is offical seal on the basis that this was special recognition and offensive to non-Christians. Speaking as an Atheist of Jewish ancestry raised in Los Angeles I suggest the ACLU take a long walk off a short pier. Any grade school child knows that the cross is there as a symbol of the Spanish missions upon which the region was founded as a city. It just obnoxious busybody behavior to demand it be removed and pretend the Catholic Church didn't have a huge hand in how the region developed.

You can try to say, "Oh, those don't count," but when there is taxpayer funds in play they sure as hell do. When they constitute a voting bloc to which candidates believe they can appeal it definitely matters. I think I last heard gays referred to as a sexual minority rather than a minority in this part of the world sometime back in the 80's. One of the first steps to be accepted as a group is to get the mainstream to adopt your terminology.

Spacepest
08-12-2004, 05:30 PM
Once you separate out all of the myriad minority groups that are now recognized the remaining majority group is now a minority itself.

Uhmm, if you're talking United States, thats not true. If you consider the officialy government recognized ethnic groups.. Caucasian Americans still make up well over 50% of the population.

edit - http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

White - 75.1%
Black - 12.3%
Native American - 0.9%
Asian - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian - 0.1%
Other - 5.5%
Hispanic - 12.5%
Two or more races - 2.4%


Holy shit, look at that Native American percentage. We must've killed most of 'em off when we took this country.

Yup, now that is what you call a MINORITY.

I could personally care less what color a person is, or if they're a designated "minority". I'm more concerned about their moral and ethical values and thier standard of living.

friedram
08-12-2004, 05:36 PM
Yes, being white and having the majority of mexican and black american's refer to us as whities, crackers, etc is offensive. I'm thinking about sueing.

crissy1616
08-12-2004, 06:33 PM
How does it feel that 95% of CAGs are a minority?

That's right, people, males are a minority. I learned that in Sociology. Women make up 51% of the population (or something like that) and men make up 49% and that makes them a minority! (Even though women are generally thought of as the minority.) Oh well!

smalien1
08-13-2004, 10:55 AM
I hate when people want equality and their own parade