Those damned, unconstitutional drug tests!!!!!

[Reality's Fringe]

I was just checking my email and came across this message from passanydrugtest.com. I thought it was quite humorous and decided to share it:

It is estimated that each day in the US over 55,000 people suffer the humiliation and invasion of their privacy by being subjected to unconstitutional drug testing procedures. (One lab we spoke with takes in over 30,000 samples each day!)
Every day people are forced to forfeit their civil liberties and privacy or risk being denied employment and job opportunities if they refuse to submit to a urinalysis.

And Unfortunately, Hundreds of These People are Unnecessarily Failing these Drug Tests!

Why? Basically because of three reasons:

REASON #1

Uninformed About Available Alternatives
Lots of people just don't know what they can do to protect their privacy. There is a lot of information out on the web, some accurate, some not so accurate. Some information is so outdated it is laughable.
Unfortunately, some people don't take the time or have the resources to sort the good from the bad, and consequently, they end up spending their hard-earned $$$ on a possibly outdated or potentially unsafe product.

We Encourage You to Compare Our Kit With Everything On The Market. We have taken the time and effort to research all the products available and I am certain we have the The Best, Safest Alternative at The Lowest Prices.

REASON #2

Uninformed About Drug Testing Procedures
WHAT MY COMPETITORS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW

Did you know that adulteration test kits (to determine altered urine samples, either through ingested solutions and adding to the sample container) are available and being used by drug labs and private testing firms? One company that sells adulteration- testing strips even lists the names of the products they test in their instruction manual (Call us and we will tell you which ones).

To be fair, some of these products have been effective in "masking" urine for drug testing. And the companies that sell solutions work hard a trying to stay "one step ahead of the labs" to be able to stay in business and sell their products. But due to so many people using these products, the labs and private testing centers have reacted to these adulterations and are now testing for most of these products and the chemicals they use to mask substances in urine.... and people are failing the drug tests!

Here's The Catch...
Which solutions have they analyzed and no longer fool the "Piss Police"? We don't know for sure and neither do you (unless of course you have a buddy in the lab). Did you also know that you have to be very careful to follow the directions EXACTLY when drinking these shakes and drinks? If you don't, you'll test positive! We honestly get phone calls each week from people who failed using one of these drinks. So you really have to ask yourself......

WHY TAKE THE CHANCE?

Oh, and one more thing, one of our "newly arrived competitors" requires you to fill your own urine container with the sample they provide. Safe and sanitary?---you decide. Our kits are pre-filled and ready-to-use immediately. No accidental spillage or contact with the sample is possible.

"There will never be a failed result from our pre-tested kit because it is not adulterated, it is not a chemical additive, it is REAL HUMAN URINE, and best of all, IT IS NOT YOURS!!"
Remember, Urine Substitution Kits are our Specialty. It's all we sell.

Respectfully,
Personal Protection Products, Inc.


Thank god! I've been hoping that someone would take up the good fight to get drug users back into the work force! Damned unconstitutional urine tests!!! :roll:

[zewone]

Thank god! I've been hoping that someone would take up the good fight to get drug users back into the work force! Damned unconstitutional urine tests!!! :roll:

You may be kidding, but I wish there was less drug testing going around. It would be alot eaiser to find a new job.

[bignick]

Stat 1 hour emergency flush.

[jmcc]

So...there's a market for me to send my pee to people?

[Reality's Fringe]

Remember guys, it's "Real Human Urine"!

"Hmm, let's see, I could just not smoke weed for a week, or carry around someone else's excrement and commit fraud........Nah,I needs me weeds!"

[zewone]

A week? I thought it was longer. If I had to quit for a week I could handle it.

[ex0]

So they are selling human urine huh? I wonder if they accept returns from unsatisfied costumors :lol:

[Reality's Fringe]

I can't wait until they start testing fecal matter for something. It's like there's a bank in my colon!

[beerguy961]

I can't wait until they start testing fecal matter for something. It's like there's a bank in my colon!

YEE-HAW, there's gold in that there ass!!!

Anyways, people need to realize something; If they don't have a job and are looking for one, they shouldn't do drugs. Wait till you get a job and have the money...

[dafoomie]

You have three choices.

A: Work somewhere that doesn't drug test.

B: Don't do drugs.

C: Pull a Ricky Williams and quit your job to do drugs full time.


What is so hard about that? If your drug habit prevents you from keeping a job, and you're not trying to quit, I have no sympathy for you. Its your own damn fault. And if your using the government dime to support your habit (unemployment, welfare, etc), you should be beaten with a lead pipe. If you're pimping out your 9 year old daughter to support your drug habit (was just in the news), you should be shot. Now, if you've got your job, have some money, are not pimping out your 9 year old, and smoking a little weed here and there won't jeopardize your job, then fine. Just keep in mind that your job is more important than getting high.

[guardian_owl]

You have three choices.

A: Work somewhere that doesn't drug test.

B: Don't do drugs.

C: Pull a Ricky Williams and quit your job to do drugs full time.


What is so hard about that? If your drug habit prevents you from keeping a job, and you're not trying to quit, I have no sympathy for you. Its your own damn fault. And if your using the government dime to support your habit (unemployment, welfare, etc), you should be beaten with a lead pipe. If you're pimping out your 9 year old daughter to support your drug habit (was just in the news), you should be shot. Now, if you've got your job, have some money, are not pimping out your 9 year old, and smoking a little weed here and there won't jeopardize your job, then fine. Just keep in mind that your job is more important than getting high. :applause:

[valance]

I think the above says it perfectly.

[PawnTakesKing]

You have three choices.

A: Work somewhere that doesn't drug test.

B: Don't do drugs.

C: Pull a Ricky Williams and quit your job to do drugs full time.


What is so hard about that? If your drug habit prevents you from keeping a job, and you're not trying to quit, I have no sympathy for you. Its your own damn fault. And if your using the government dime to support your habit (unemployment, welfare, etc), you should be beaten with a lead pipe. If you're pimping out your 9 year old daughter to support your drug habit (was just in the news), you should be shot. Now, if you've got your job, have some money, are not pimping out your 9 year old, and smoking a little weed here and there won't jeopardize your job, then fine. Just keep in mind that your job is more important than getting high.

Amen.

[Xevious]

I have to agree too

[ZForce915]

You have three choices.

A: Work somewhere that doesn't drug test.

B: Don't do drugs.

C: Pull a Ricky Williams and quit your job to do drugs full time.


What is so hard about that? If your drug habit prevents you from keeping a job, and you're not trying to quit, I have no sympathy for you. Its your own damn fault. And if your using the government dime to support your habit (unemployment, welfare, etc), you should be beaten with a lead pipe. If you're pimping out your 9 year old daughter to support your drug habit (was just in the news), you should be shot. Now, if you've got your job, have some money, are not pimping out your 9 year old, and smoking a little weed here and there won't jeopardize your job, then fine. Just keep in mind that your job is more important than getting high.

Very, very well said.

[Squirms]

Bravo

[Cornfedwb]

You have three choices.

A: Work somewhere that doesn't drug test.

B: Don't do drugs.

C: Pull a Ricky Williams and quit your job to do drugs full time.


What is so hard about that? If your drug habit prevents you from keeping a job, and you're not trying to quit, I have no sympathy for you. Its your own damn fault. And if your using the government dime to support your habit (unemployment, welfare, etc), you should be beaten with a lead pipe. If you're pimping out your 9 year old daughter to support your drug habit (was just in the news), you should be shot. Now, if you've got your job, have some money, are not pimping out your 9 year old, and smoking a little weed here and there won't jeopardize your job, then fine. Just keep in mind that your job is more important than getting high.

Very well said. If you find it hard to get a job because you want to keep smoking weed.. well stop smoking weed and grow up.

[biggestinuyashafan]

i hope my meds don't get in the way of me ever getting a job. that will freaking suck. it isn't my fault my mom is a paranoid person that thinks if i get off my medicine that i will go and kill someone or something. i really don't have another place i can go right now that i know of and she threatens that if i stop taking it she will kick me out. i am not trying to troll,i am just trying to explain how i might fail a drug test and why.

[CTLesq]

I wish I could drink at work.

CTL

[Indiana]

My question is what if the pee they sell you isn't drug free?

Also, what if your employer wants to take a hair sample. There is no fooling the hair sample. I can't believe more companies don't just take a piece of your hair.

[jmcc]

I wish I could drink at work.

CTL

I gotta say, it's wonderful. My last day of work at my last job I bought a couple big pizzas and my boss brought in a couple 12 packs. It was so decadent and European feeling to have a beer with lunch at work.

[dafoomie]

Very well said. If you find it hard to get a job because you want to keep smoking weed.. well stop smoking weed and grow up.
Exactly... I mean, I used to see people all the time that put their drug habit ahead of everything else and wonder why they couldn't hold a job. I'm not going to tell anyone whether they can smoke or not, but if your risking getting fired or getting kicked out of school to get high, then you have a problem.

I wish I could drink at work.
Be a bus driver.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5538833/

[Staind204]

Well instead of making a new topic I figured I'd ask my question here. Does Xanax (not given to me by a doctor of course) show up on drug tests, or do they even test for something like that?

[dafoomie]

Well instead of making a new topic I figured I'd ask my question here. Does Xanax (not given to me by a doctor of course) show up on drug tests, or do they even test for something like that?
Yes, but not always. Think of it like cable TV, theres 8 things they can test for, and they can pick a package of 4 or so for a certain cost. Or they can get the deluxe package and test for all of them. You'll have to ask your employer whether they test for it or not. But yes, its not uncommon for that to be tested for.

[Staind204]

Hmm well how long would it stay in my system for? Only a few days.. right? Also whose to say that they weren't given to me by a doctor, or would they ask for proof? I'm clean right now I just need a job in the next week or two and didnt wanna ruin my chances by doing a bar or something. Thanks for the quick reply.

[dafoomie]

2 weeks, possibly longer if you've been using them a long time. You'll have to flush your system like someone would if they smoked marijuana recently.

[Staind204]

I haven't been using them. I have never used them before in my life. So Im assuming i'd be ok to do a 2MG bar and i'd be fine in a few days?

[levi333]

I haven't been using them. I have never used them before in my life. So Im assuming i'd be ok to do a 2MG bar and i'd be fine in a few days?

Why start now and risk it?

[Quillion]

Why start now and risk it?
No kidding.


Also, don't ask for medical advice on a message board.

[Staind204]

No kidding.


Also, don't ask for medical advice on a message board.


What harm does it do to ask? I might not get accurate answers but it doesnt hurt anybody for me to ask. Atleast I didnt make a new topic to clutter up the boards....

[Kaijufan]

Luckily I haven't had to take a drug test yet.

Did anyone see the Drug Testing episode of The Office that aired a few weeks ago? I couldn't help but think of it while reading this topic.

Jim: So, yesterday, Dwight found half a joint in the parking lot, which is unfortunate, because, as it turns out, Dwight finding drugs is more dangerous than most people using drugs.

Dwight: Okay, I’m going to need to search your car. Give me your keys.
Ryan: I am not giving you my keys.
Dwight: Don’t make me do this the hard way.
Ryan: What’s the hard way?
Dwight: I go down to the police station on my lunch break. I tell the police officer — I know several — what I suspect you may have in your car. He requests a hearing from a judge and obtains a search warrant. Once he has said warrant, he will drive over here and make you give him the keys to your car, and you will have to obey him.
Ryan: Yeah, let’s do it that way.

Toby: Hookah is not an illegal drug, Michael.
Michael: Yes, it is.
Toby: No, it’s not. It’s a type of pipe. You can fill it with tobacco, often mixed with fruit, or…
Michael: Ok, you know what, Toby? Pam, could you take this down? In addition to Toby’s urine being tested, I would like to test his blood and his hair.
Toby: You can’t do that.
Michael: I can test anyone randomly, and I have chosen you randomly.
Toby: That’s not random.
Michael: Ok, eenie, meanie, miney, moe… [Points to Toby] …is random.

Kevin: I’d like a magazine.
Linda: We just need urine, sir.
Kevin: I’d still like one.

[Quillion]

What harm does it do to ask? I might not get accurate answers but it doesnt hurt anybody for me to ask. Atleast I didnt make a new topic to clutter up the boards....

It's not harm to the board I'm concerned about.

You won't get accurate answers. Trust that.

[Apossum]

A week? I thought it was longer. If I had to quit for a week I could handle it.

2-3 weeks or longer. it all depends on your metabolism, your body fat percentage (thc stores in fat cells) how much you smoke per day and how much water, vinegar, cranberry juice etc. you are drinking (the latter 2 things clean out your urinary tract)




Also, what if your employer wants to take a hair sample. There is no fooling the hair sample. I can't believe more companies don't just take a piece of your hair.


It's wayyyy more expensive. Last I heard Blockbuster does this test.

[alonzomourning23]

You may be kidding, but I wish there was less drug testing going around. It would be alot eaiser to find a new job.

:roll:

[dafoomie]

I haven't been using them. I have never used them before in my life. So Im assuming i'd be ok to do a 2MG bar and i'd be fine in a few days?
If it takes 2 weeks to pass through your system, why would you think it would be fine in a few days?

[RedvsBlue]

Its only unconstitional if they use the results against you in a court of law and there was no search warrant.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I don't mind drug tests because i don't do any drugs, however this new trend of what they like to call "Pre-employment drug screening" is utter crap. In some jobs they've basically made it part of the application process. If you are going to put me through the time consuming and somewhat humiliating experience of getting piss tested then at the very least offer me the job first on the condition I pass the test.

[Kayden]

Its only unconstitional if they use the results against you in a court of law and there was no search warrant.

How do you figure? Every place I've ever worked at has had me sign something saying I may be asked to comply with a urine test at some point. They are voluntary, but if you refuse, you can be fired.

[Staind204]

If it takes 2 weeks to pass through your system, why would you think it would be fine in a few days?


Because Ive checked quite a few sites and they all indicate that it only takes 1-3 days, NOT two weeks. Especially not for a single bar.

[Pookymeister]

Since they usually test for the temperature of the urine, you better stick that test tube up your ass to keep it warm before your test.