got 2 wonder how true are food lables

[slidecage]

My cousins kids cant have much suger so i was looking at a few things to give them

candy bar has like 33 grams

while

little debbie iced honey buns only have 15?

wonder how true is that. i mean the bun is the same size or bigger and it has all that icing on it


got to wonder how many food lables are correct

[tiredfornow]

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[joe2187]

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[geko29]

They're very accurate. If they weren't, the company producing that product would be forced out of business by the FDA.

A typical candybar is fluffed sugar covered with burned sugar then wrapped in chocolate-flavored sugar. There are some non-sugar components (nuts, etc), but sugar is the #1 ingredient by weight.

A honey bun is a sweetened piece of bread topped with sugar. Flour and water are by far the two most common ingredients.

[musha666]

They're very accurate. If they weren't, the company producing that product would be forced out of business by the FDA.

A typical candybar is fluffed sugar covered with burned sugar then wrapped in chocolate-flavored sugar. There are some non-sugar components (nuts, etc), but sugar is the #1 ingredient by weight.

A honey bun is a sweetened piece of bread topped with sugar. Flour and water are by far the two most common ingredients.

Nothing more to be said. They are accurate. Also what you should make sure you look at is just how big a serving size is. A lot use a really small unreasonable portion size. Ice cream for example uses like 1 scoop as a serving size when most people usually have 2 or more in a serving.

They are very accurate, but make sure you read exactly what they are for.

[darthbudge]

Why don't you give them Oatmeal?

[rabbitt]

Sorry, but we don't know how accurate food labels really are. The FDA is imcompetant, at best.

[dallow]

Sorry, but we don't know how accurate food labels really are. The FDA is imcompetant, at best.We have to stand up to the FDA. Be strong man.

[rabbitt]

We have to stand up to the FDA. Be strong man.

Not every comment that's against a huge organization should be interpreted as angsty. I have nothing to gain by saying that the FDA isn't doing its job. I want to know what is in my food.

[camoor]

I agree with the other posters - serving size is important!

[dallow]

No one has anything to gain when they make that kind of statement.
Getting the food labels as accurate as possible is what they're main strength is.

It's perhaps other areas where they might be lacking or slow about change.

[CocheseUGA]

Sorry, but we don't know how accurate food labels really are. The FDA is imcompetant, at best.

They're too busy trying to correct your spelling.

Alas, they gave up on slidecage a long time ago.

[RAMSTORIA]

the 20 oz coke i got at work yesterday has 67 grams of sugar in it... nice!

[camoor]

No one has anything to gain when they make that kind of statement.
Getting the food labels as accurate as possible is what they're main strength is.

It's perhaps other areas where they might be lacking or slow about change.

Corpos have an incentive to obscure the truth about their products (which they need to weigh against the risk/cost of getting caught)

As a undermanned bureaucracy the FDA has an incentive to do the bare minimum possible required by law so they don't have to work more then 8 hours per day and they are not responsible for anything that they haven't been mandated to inspect.

And let's not forget the explosion of food imports from overseas, thus meaning our govt has little to no oversight of the farming and food packaging facilities.

[slidecage]

They're very accurate. If they weren't, the company producing that product would be forced out of business by the FDA.

A typical candybar is fluffed sugar covered with burned sugar then wrapped in chocolate-flavored sugar. There are some non-sugar components (nuts, etc), but sugar is the #1 ingredient by weight.

A honey bun is a sweetened piece of bread topped with sugar. Flour and water are by far the two most common ingredients.


thanks was just wondering. dont want to give them too much suger.

werid thing is i asked cause those HONEY BUnS Taste just like cinnamon rolls that you cook in the oven and those have around 3x as much sugar (im thinking 40 per roll) ?


that is why i was wondering if the 15 grams was right.



seems a little shocking that someone could eat 6 ICE honey buns for about the same as a 20 once coke.


another werid thing

UNICED 12 grams of suger
Iced 15 grams

you would think all that iciing has more then 3 grams of suger

[carpwrist]

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[Sleepkyng]

yeah... well i'll tell him you said that...

[coltyhuxx]

I'm always surprised at how many juices have very little or no vitamin C. You can often tell when they are nutritionally void when they add ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Shit, you might as well drink a soda and take a vitamin.

I guess the clear apple juices are pretty much worthless, whereas the darker, cloudy (unfiltered?) ones do seem to have nutritional value. Lemonades seem to be all across the board.. 0% a serving to 25%. (And some of these 0%'s even have a considerable amount of lemon juice in them.) Perhaps the pasturization or concentrate affects this.

[slidecage]

I'm always surprised at how many juices have very little or no vitamin C. You can often tell when they are nutritionally void when they add ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Shit, you might as well drink a soda and take a vitamin.

I guess the clear apple juices are pretty much worthless, whereas the darker, cloudy (unfiltered?) ones do seem to have nutritional value. Lemonades seem to be all across the board.. 0% a serving to 25%. (And some of these 0%'s even have a considerable amount of lemon juice in them.) Perhaps the pasturization or concentrate affects this.



also you got to watch for splenda or whatever that is called. My cousins kids cant handle it for some reason and get sick if they eat food that is made with it

[JolietJake]

You failed every English class you ever had, didn't you?

[rabbitt]

No one has anything to gain when they make that kind of statement.
Getting the food labels as accurate as possible is what they're main strength is.

It's perhaps other areas where they might be lacking or slow about change.

Throwing a handful of other ingredients under "and other natural flavors" just doesn't cut it. That's pure laziness on their part, because that doesn't give me a solid image of the substances that are going into my body.

They're too busy trying to correct your spelling.

I made one mistake, get over it.

[CocheseUGA]

I made one mistake, get over it.

You call out a major government organization and can't spell something correctly. You were asking for it.

[rabbitt]

You call out a major government organization and can't spell something correctly. You were asking for it.

My spelling error isn't making anyone ill. Though, it's apparently ruining your day. I apologize.

[camoor]

You call out a major government organization and can't spell something correctly. You were asking for it.

Sadly this is the mindset of most youth today. They think of major government organizations as institutions that should be venerated and revered - and anyone who points out the fallibility of said orgainizations is wrong and asking for trouble.

Wake up and smell the organic, fair-trade coffee Mr. USA

[CocheseUGA]

Sadly this is the mindset of most youth today. They think of major government organizations as institutions that should be venerated and revered - and anyone who points out the fallibility of said orgainizations is wrong and asking for trouble.

Wake up and smell the organic, fair-trade coffee Mr. USA

Right. And you got all of that because someone is incompetent at spelling incompetent, and I pointed it out.

[dallow]

Sadly this is the mindset of most youth today. They think of major government organizations as institutions that should be venerated and revered - and anyone who points out the fallibility of said orgainizations is wrong and asking for trouble.

Wake up and smell the organic, fair-trade coffee Mr. USAIn what universe do America's youth believe that?

[camoor]

In what universe do America's youth believe that?

The "Millennial Generation" is becoming the most common name for young people born roughly in the decades of the 1980s and 1990s, who are pouring out of college right now.
...
The Millennials are an unusual generation, not like young people we have seen for a long time. As first noted by generational analysts William Strauss and Neil Howe, they are not individualistic risk-takers like the Boomers or cynical and disengaged like Generation Xers. Signs indicate that Millennials are civic-minded, politically engaged, and hold values long associated with progressives, such as concern about economic inequalities, desire for a more multilateral foreign policy, and a strong belief in government.
...
Millennials also show a non-cynical attitude toward political action and the usefulness of government. In the Harvard Institute of Politics (IOP) October, 2006 survey of 18-24 year olds, 60 percent thought political engagement was an effective way of solving important issues facing the country and 71 percent thought such engagement was an effective way of solving important issues facing their local community. Millennials disagree with the idea that if the federal government runs something, it is necessarily inefficient and wasteful. According to Pew Values surveys, 18-25 year olds in 2002-03 disagreed with that idea by exactly 2:1 (64-32), while 18-25 year old Gen Xers who were asked about the idea in 1987-88 were split down the middle, 47-47. The 2006 CIRCLE Civic and Political Health of the Nation survey of 15-25 year olds found a strong endorsement among 15-25 year olds of the idea that "government should do more to solve problems" (63 percent), rather than "government does too many things better left to businesses and individuals" (31 percent).
Similarly, in June, 2005 Democracy Corps polling, 63 percent of 18-29 year olds believed the role of government should be to promote the principle of a strong community and policies that expand opportunity and promote prosperity for all, not just a few, compared to 35 percent who thought the role of government should be to promote the principle of self-reliance and policies of limited government and low taxes. This split was by far the most pro-active government/strong community of all the age groups; 30-39 year old Gen Xers for example, were split 50-45 on this question.

http://www.newpolitics.net/node/360?full_report=1

[Chacrana]

My cousins kids cant have much suger so i was looking at a few things to give them

candy bar has like 33 grams

while

little debbie iced honey buns only have 15?

wonder how true is that. i mean the bun is the same size or bigger and it has all that icing on it


got to wonder how many food lables are correct

I guarantee you, the candy bar that you ate was poisoned. It was the only one.

[dallow]

That's hardly conclusive of anything!
Nowhere in that does it say that just because people feel goverment is helping/should help, that it's infallible.

[Apossum]

http://www.newpolitics.net/node/360?full_report=1


I'll be damned. These are the same people who say all the correct and positive things in class, then bitch about how much they hate the class and gloat about how good they are at bullshitting afterwards, right? :lol: just joking.


I think your interpretation of it is seriously negative...a belief in government is not the same thing as blindly following it. Some of the most politically motivated people I know are also the most cynical about government, but they are active in civic matters because they want to fix that. Just because they aren't calling for anarchy doesn't mean they aren't critical. I think people today are more practical in that sense--they understand that changing the way the country is run doesn't have to mean burning down the white house.

[dallow]

Exactly!

[help1]

Sadly this is the mindset of most youth today. They think of major government organizations as institutions that should be venerated and revered - and anyone who points out the fallibility of said orgainizations is wrong and asking for trouble.

Wake up and smell the organic, fair-trade coffee Mr. USA

Sadly this is the mindset of many Americans today. They think that all organizations and businesses are out to not only destroy them, but rape those closest and dearest to them.

OMFG. Not everyone is out to get you, damnit!

[rabbitt]

Sadly this is the mindset of many Americans today. They think that all organizations and businesses are out to not only destroy them, but rape those closest and dearest to them.

OMFG. Not everyone is out to get you, damnit!

I don't think he's saying that "they're out to get you," but rather we should ask more questions. Once we stop asking the questions, gov't takes that as a "Yes, sir."

[camoor]

I don't think he's saying that "they're out to get you," but rather we should ask more questions. Once we stop asking the questions, gov't takes that as a "Yes, sir."

Thanks rabbitt. And I'd just like to add that the news orgainizations have been among the most compliant in this respect. I don't totally blame the youth, it's not easy to seek out the truth when the siren song of slick news shows and talk radio is constantly sounding in the background.

[camoor]

I think your interpretation of it is seriously negative...a belief in government is not the same thing as blindly following it. Some of the most politically motivated people I know are also the most cynical about government, but they are active in civic matters because they want to fix that. Just because they aren't calling for anarchy doesn't mean they aren't critical. I think people today are more practical in that sense--they understand that changing the way the country is run doesn't have to mean burning down the white house.

Yes, however the anecdotal "cynical but politically motivated" crowd you associate with are clearly in the minority according to this study. The majority of kids are Polyanna optimists that believe govt is a good and govt should do more to solve problems - essentially they want more govt not less. Considering the bang-up job done by govt in the past 4 years (sarcasm), considering scandal after scandal, and particularly considering the obvious failings of the current public school system, I find this fairly surprising.

Millennials disagree with the idea that if the federal government runs something, it is necessarily inefficient and wasteful....strong endorsement among 15-25 year olds of the idea that "government should do more to solve problems" (63 percent), rather than "government does too many things better left to businesses and individuals" (31 percent).

[dallow]

Past 4 years huh?
It's a poll taken sometime in 2006.

And it's still being interpreted as something more than it is.

[camoor]

Past 4 years huh?
It's a poll taken sometime in 2006.

And it's still being interpreted as something more than it is.

Ok so the poll was two years ago - I couldn't find a more recent example and personally I doubt there's been a sea change of difference in two years.

I don't know what you think is being misinterpreted, I'm just quoting directly from the poll here.