Something for you young men to read.

[bignick]

Real MEN - Retrosexuals!

Please allow me to vent. I have had it. I've taken all I can stand and I
can't stand no more. Every time my TV is on, all that can be seen is
effeminate men prancing about, redecorating houses and talking about foreign
concepts like "style" and "feng shui." Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual,
transsexual, metrosexual, non-sexual; blue, green, and purple-sexual - bogus
definitions have taken over the urban and suburban world!

Real men of the world, stand up, scratch your butt, belch, and yell
"ENOUGH!" I hereby announce the start of a new offensive in the culture
Wars, the Retrosexual movement. "

The Code :

A Retrosexual man, no matter what the women insists, PAYS FOR THE DATE.

A Retrosexual man opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that
term only because they are female.

A Retrosexual DEALS with IT, be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or
a natural disaster, you DEAL WITH IT.

A Retrosexual not only eats red meat, he often kills it himself.

A Retrosexual doesn't worry about living to be 90. It's not how long you
live, but how well. If you're 90 years old and still smoking cigars and
drinking, I salute you. If you are still having sex, you are a God.

A Retrosexual does not use more hair or skin products than a woman. Women
have several supermarket aisles of stuff. Retrosexuals need an endcap
(possibly 2 endcaps if you include shaving goods.)

A Retrosexual does not dress in clothes from Hot Topic when he's 30 years
old.

A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff
(or people) if need be. This falls under the "Dealing with IT" portion of
The Code.

A Retrosexual watches no TV show with "Queer" in the title.

A Retrosexual does not let neighbors screw up rooms in his house on
national TV.

A Retrosexual should not give up excessive amounts of manliness for women.
Some is inevitable, but major reinvention of yourself will only lead to you
becoming a froo-froo little puss, and in the long run, she ain't worth it.

A Retrosexual is allowed to seek professional help for major mental stress
such as drug/alcohol addiction, death of your entire family in a freak
treechipper accident, favorite sports team being moved to a different city,
favorite bird dog expiring, etc. You are NOT allowed to see a shrink because
Daddy didn't pay you enough attention. Daddy was busy DEALING WITH IT. When
you screwed up, he DEALT with you.

A Retrosexual will have at least one outfit in his wardrobe designed to
conceal himself from prey.

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and
ONLY a Windsor knot.

A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about
getting.

A Retrosexual knows how to use a basic set of tools. If you can't hammer a
nail, or drill a straight hole, practice in secret until you can -- or be
rightfully ridiculed for the wuss you be.

A Retrosexual knows that owning a gun is not a sign that your are riddled
with fear, guns are TOOLS and are often essential to DEAL WITH IT. Plus it's
just plain fun to fire one off in the direction of those people or things
that just need a little "wakin' up".

Crying. There are very few reason that a Retrosexual may cry, and none of
them have to do with TV commercials, movies, or soap operas. Sports teams
are sometimes a reason to cry, but the preferred method of release is
swearing or throwing the remote control. Some reasons a Retrosexual can cry
include (but are not limited to) death of a loved one, death of a pet (fish
do NOT count as pets in this case), loss of a major body part, or loss of
major body part on your Ford truck.

When a Retrosexual is on a crowded bus and or a commuter train, and a
pregnant woman, heck, any woman gets on, that retrosexual stands up and
offers his seat to that woman, then looks around at the other so-called men
still in their seats with a disgusted "you punks" look on his face.

A Retrosexual knows how to say the Pledge properly, and with the correct
emphasis and pronunciation. He also knows the words to the Star Spangled
Banner

A Retrosexual will have hobbies and habits his wife and mother do not
understand, but that are essential to his manliness, in that they offset the
acceptable manliness decline he suffers when married/engaged or in a serious
healthy relationship - i.e., hunting, boxing, shot putting, shooting,
cigars, car maintenance.

A Retrosexual knows how to sharpen his own knives and kitchen utensils.

A Retrosexual man can drive in snow (hell, a blizzard) without sliding all
over or driving under 20mph, without anxiety, and without high-centering his
ride in a snow bank.

A Retrosexual man can chop down a tree and make it land where he wants.
Wherever it lands is where he damn well wanted it to land. Except on his
truck--that would happen because of a "force of nature", and then the
retrosexual man's options are to Cry, or to DEAL with IT, or do both.

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to not only any women but any
elderly person or person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's) NOTE: The
person in military dress may turn down the offer but the Retrosexual man
will ALWAYS make the offer to them and thank them for serving their country.

A Retrosexual man doesn't need a contract -- a handshake is good enough. He
will always stand by his word even if circumstances change or the other
person deceived him.

A Retrosexual man doesn't immediately look to sue someone when he does
something stupid and hurts himself. We understand that sometimes in the
process of doing things we get hurt and we just DEAL WITH IT !

[Xevious]

I guess I am mostly retrosexual except the part about killing my food.

[Lootr2Core]

Sounds good, but I don't get the one about offering a seat to a military person (EXCEPT 2nd Lts)?????

[Wshakspear]

That was probably written by a gay dude

[bignick]

Sounds good, but I don't get the one about offering a seat to a military person (EXCEPT 2nd Lts)?????

2nd Lts is the lowest ranking officer. Fresh out of ROTC(college)

[Storamin]

Thats right! It's about time we set up a name for the REAL MEN! I MUST REAFFIRM MY MASCULINITY!! TIME TO TAKE THE SHOTGUN TO THE SHOOTING RANGE!

[Ebraum]

BigNick, you should be running for President.

[Wshakspear]

Question: Did you copy and paste that wall holding the crotch of your pants?

[dustyeff]

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and
ONLY a Windsor knot.

Son of a bitch! I only know the four-in-hand!

[chess380]

Big Nick Big Nick Preach it.

[Lootr2Core]

Sounds good, but I don't get the one about offering a seat to a military person (EXCEPT 2nd Lts)?????

2nd Lts is the lowest ranking officer. Fresh out of ROTC(college)

That is stupid. Great article but the thing about no 2nd lts is just rude. No enlisted either? or just 2nd lts.

below is a link to one (of many) brave men who gave their life in service (and he was a 2nd lt.)

http://www.militarycity.com/valor/257038.html

I would hope that one would offer their seat to a man like that!

[xspeedracerx]

"A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about getting"

Got that one covered, I have a three inch scar on my head.

[SneakyPenguin]

Heh, that is me pretty much. Wooo, I'm retrosexual.

[Spacepest]

*reads long list and looks at husband*

I guess I'm married to a Retrosexual!

[Final Starman]

A tree inch scar? XD

[zewone]

I like these guidelines, good thing I was following them to the "T" already.

[bignick]

Its nice to hear that many of you follow these guidelines. Hopefully this whole metrosexual thing will be over soon!

[Zmonkay]

lol, that was an enjoyable read. Where'd you find that (if you didn't make it up)?

[bignick]

lol, that was an enjoyable read. Where'd you find that (if you didn't make it up)?

My Uncle sent it to me.

[msdmoney]

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to ...person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's)

Lets make the extra note that they actually have to serve/have served in the military. We don't want to be giving up our seats to some freakin' "cosplay"ers.

[JSweeney]

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and ONLY a Windsor knot.

Unless you're talking only about ties, I disagree.
Everyone should know at least the square, slip, bowline, etc.

Knowing how to manipulate a rope helps you to DEAL with many situations...be it rescue, moving large objects, shoring a watercraft, etc.
It's shocking how few people actually know how to tie knots.

Not to mention that a winsor knot isn't going to work for shit when you have to string up a deer to open it up and field dress it.
You know, there's a certain sense of pride you feel when you're removing the entrails and organs from an animal after a clean kill.

Well, unless you knick the bowels or intestines and ruin all the vension by getting feces all over it.

Edit: thinking about it, everyone should learn beneficial skills, as knowledge becomes even more beneficial when many people know and understand it.

[wastedyears]

Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

[JSweeney]

Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

Just because beliefs are old doesn't automatically mean they are wrong.
Some of the ideas may be antiquated, but most of them speak to self reliance, common courtesy and other postive character traits.

[Wshakspear]

i can tie a bow
/forgets all of scouts

...aawwww shit...damn backslash followed from fark...

[soulwish2003]

this is hot...

[coolperson03]

I agree with all of this except the part about driving in snow, but heck that's because I live in Florida.

[Dok Diamond]

al bundy came to my head when i read this and yes i agree with all of this.

[dracula]

Real MEN - Retrosexuals!

Please allow me to vent. I have had it. I've taken all I can stand and I
can't stand no more. Every time my TV is on, all that can be seen is
effeminate men prancing about, redecorating houses and talking about foreign
concepts like "style" and "feng shui." Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual,
transsexual, metrosexual, non-sexual; blue, green, and purple-sexual - bogus
definitions have taken over the urban and suburban world!

Real men of the world, stand up, scratch your butt, belch, and yell
"ENOUGH!" I hereby announce the start of a new offensive in the culture
Wars, the Retrosexual movement. "

The Code :

A Retrosexual man, no matter what the women insists, PAYS FOR THE DATE.

just ask if its cool if you split the bill(make this clear AHEAD of time.) If she says "OK" then that means she really just wants to spend time with you, and can pay her way. IF you offer to pay for everything, you are opening yourself up to golddiggers. LESSON NUMBER ONE: DONT BE A CHUMP. A chump is a guy who pays for everything on a date yet gets no pussy

A Retrosexual man opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that
term only because they are female.

Open the door for anyone who is on their way in.

A Retrosexual DEALS with IT, be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or
a natural disaster, you DEAL WITH IT.

If someone breaks into my home and is armed, I call the cops, if there is a natural disaster, I get in the basement, but hell yeah you better be able to fix a flat or you suck.

A Retrosexual not only eats red meat, he often kills it himself.

just be sure to clean it after you kill it.

A Retrosexual doesn't worry about living to be 90. It's not how long you
live, but how well. If you're 90 years old and still smoking cigars and
drinking, I salute you. If you are still having sex, you are a God.

I will still be bangin beaver when i am 90.

A Retrosexual does not use more hair or skin products than a woman. Women
have several supermarket aisles of stuff. Retrosexuals need an endcap
(possibly 2 endcaps if you include shaving goods.)

wtf is an endcap?

A Retrosexual does not dress in clothes from Hot Topic when he's 30 years old.

just get your clothes from a thrift shop, like any good cheapass should.

A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff
(or people) if need be. This falls under the "Dealing with IT" portion of
The Code.

wtf, are you kidding me? fuck that, if you commit a murder you end up in the slammer, taking it up the ass from some big dude named bubba

A Retrosexual watches no TV show with "Queer" in the title.

i dont watch tv

A Retrosexual does not let neighbors screw up rooms in his house on
national TV.

i assume you are talking about queer eye for the straight guy? that show kicks ass.

A Retrosexual should not give up excessive amounts of manliness for women.
Some is inevitable, but major reinvention of yourself will only lead to you
becoming a froo-froo little puss, and in the long run, she ain't worth it.

of course, do what you have to do


A Retrosexual is allowed to seek professional help for major mental stress
such as drug/alcohol addiction, death of your entire family in a freak
treechipper accident, favorite sports team being moved to a different city,
favorite bird dog expiring, etc. You are NOT allowed to see a shrink because
Daddy didn't pay you enough attention. Daddy was busy DEALING WITH IT. When
you screwed up, he DEALT with you.

meh, i like shrinks bc they prescribe drugs.


A Retrosexual will have at least one outfit in his wardrobe designed to
conceal himself from prey.

I dont understand. Are you talking about hunting animals, or hunting beaver?

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and
ONLY a Windsor knot.

sure

A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about
getting.

you mean scars? i got some cool ones

A Retrosexual knows how to use a basic set of tools. If you can't hammer a nail, or drill a straight hole, practice in secret until you can -- or be
rightfully ridiculed for the wuss you be.

agreed

A Retrosexual knows that owning a gun is not a sign that your are riddled
with fear, guns are TOOLS and are often essential to DEAL WITH IT. Plus it's just plain fun to fire one off in the direction of those people or things
that just need a little "wakin' up".

firearms, meh dont need it.

Crying. There are very few reason that a Retrosexual may cry, and none of them have to do with TV commercials, movies, or soap operas. Sports teams are sometimes a reason to cry, but the preferred method of release is wearing or throwing the remote control. Some reasons a Retrosexual can cry include (but are not limited to) death of a loved one, death of a pet (fish do NOT count as pets in this case), loss of a major body part, or loss of major body part on your Ford truck.

Crying can get you laid

When a Retrosexual is on a crowded bus and or a commuter train, and a
pregnant woman, heck, any woman gets on, that retrosexual stands up and offers his seat to that woman, then looks around at the other so-called men still in their seats with a disgusted "you punks" look on his face.

agreed,

A Retrosexual knows how to say the Pledge properly, and with the correct
emphasis and pronunciation. He also knows the words to the Star Spangled Banner

sure, but really, all men and women and children should know this

A Retrosexual will have hobbies and habits his wife and mother do not
understand, but that are essential to his manliness, in that they offset the
acceptable manliness decline he suffers when married/engaged or in a serious healthy relationship - i.e., hunting, boxing, shot putting, shooting,
cigars, car maintenance.

boxing is not something I would want to try, getting hit in the head sucks

A Retrosexual knows how to sharpen his own knives and kitchen utensils.

sure

A Retrosexual man can drive in snow (hell, a blizzard) without sliding all
over or driving under 20mph, without anxiety, and without high-centering his ride in a snow bank.

sure

A Retrosexual man can chop down a tree and make it land where he wants.
Wherever it lands is where he damn well wanted it to land. Except on his
truck--that would happen because of a "force of nature", and then the
retrosexual man's options are to Cry, or to DEAL with IT, or do both.

treecutting?

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to not only any women but any elderly person or person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's) NOTE: The
person in military dress may turn down the offer but the Retrosexual man
will ALWAYS make the offer to them and thank them for serving their country.

wtf? maybe if they are injured military

A Retrosexual man doesn't need a contract -- a handshake is good enough. He
will always stand by his word even if circumstances change or the other
person deceived him.

no, always have it written down

A Retrosexual man doesn't immediately look to sue someone when he does something stupid and hurts himself. We understand that sometimes in the process of doing things we get hurt and we just DEAL WITH IT !

agreed, we live in a sue happy nation

[wastedyears]

Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

Just because beliefs are old doesn't automatically mean they are wrong.

It doesn't automatically mean they are right, either.

[bignick]

an endcap is that display thing in stores. its at the end of the isle, but not in the isle. you know what I mean? Its usually got the sale stuff of it at a grocery store.
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/1633/endcaps.jpg

[JSweeney]

Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

Just because beliefs are old doesn't automatically mean they are wrong.

It doesn't automatically mean they are right, either.

No one said they were. But to catagorically attack the credibility of all the arguments just because they are old is just folly.

[daphatty]

/lets out a big Tim Allen grunt

I so totally agree with this.

If you don't, DEAL WITH IT!

[JSweeney]

Arsenals are fun.

[AGuth]

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to not only any women but any
elderly person or person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's) NOTE: The
person in military dress may turn down the offer but the Retrosexual man
will ALWAYS make the offer to them and thank them for serving their country.



Man I thought I was the only one who did this

[Whambamm]

I agree with pretty much that entire list and live by it, especially the being a gentleman part. Like my friends think I'm trying to flirt with some girls when all I'm doing is being a gentleman. Like holding a door, offering my seat, paying for everything, etc. And I just tell them it's the proper thing to do, and they give me shit for it. But whatever.

[Storamin]

Hey dracula. Shooting guns is awesome. You should give it a try sometime.

[JSweeney]

Hey dracula. Shooting guns is awesome. You should give it a try sometime.

Riflery, Archery and marksmanship in general are a fun hobby. If only it weren't so hard to find a decent range. Of course, if there a were a decent instuctor around me and it didn't cost to much for lessons, I think I'd like to pick up swordsmanship as well.

[Wshakspear]

Hey dracula. Shooting guns is awesome. You should give it a try sometime.

Riflery, Archery and marksmanship in general are a fun hobby. If only it weren't so hard to find a decent range. Of course, if there a were a decent instuctor around me and it didn't cost to much for lessons, I think I'd like to pick up swordsmanship as well.

There's one in Commerce/Union Lake (im not sure where one city ends and the other begins). Near the Gamerush actually

[E Nice]

A Retrosexual DEALS with IT, be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or
a natural disaster, you DEAL WITH IT.

If someone breaks into my home and is armed, I call the cops, if there is a natural disaster, I get in the basement, but hell yeah you better be able to fix a flat or you suck.

A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff
(or people) if need be. This falls under the "Dealing with IT" portion of
The Code.

wtf, are you kidding me? shaq-fu that, if you commit a murder you end up in the slammer, taking it up the ass from some big dude named bubba



Killing people part may have something to do with dealing with a break-in.

Police Chief Wiggum: And once a man is in your home anything you do is nice and legal. ..... It doesn't work if you invite them.

[donssword]

How about: a retrosexual doesn't puss out about being bald, and doesn't waste his money on Rogain or any of that other crap that is supposed to stall the inevitable.

A retrosexual embraces his impending baldness, and knows how to cut his own damn hair with a clipper --- put in the 1/8" attachment and buzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Sheik Rattle Enroll]

I'd say owning a gun IS a sign of fear unless you use it for hunting or something. There's no reason to own a pistol unless you have fear for your life (legitamate or imagined).

Living well is about taking care of yourself too. If you're smoking cigars and getting fat on red meat and can barely make it up a flight of stairs you certainly aren't living "well".

Aren't you on a diet? Isn't a man on a diet something a true butt-scratching retrosexual would laugh at? I'm not saying trying to be healthier is a bad thing, just pointing out that trying to be a ridiculous stereotype isn't always the best way to live.

Also, if a handshake is good enough for you on a deal, be prepared to get screwed over A LOT and lose a shit lot of money. As a contract programmer I can tell you that you have to cover your ass.

[wastedyears]

Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

Just because beliefs are old doesn't automatically mean they are wrong.

It doesn't automatically mean they are right, either.

No one said they were. But to catagorically attack the credibility of all the arguments just because they are old is just folly.

I don't recall "catagorically" attacking the credibility of all the arguments any more than you "catagorically" defended them.

Prejudice against anyone, whether they be "effeminate" males, non-helpless women who are able to pay their own way on a date, people of different religious beliefs or ethnic backgrounds is not something I am willing to accept, and I felt a need to voice my opinion. Let's not forget that this is a video game deals site. The last thing I expected to grace the front page of the site was a homophobic, anti-feminism rant.

[punqsux]

Real MEN - Retrosexuals!

Please allow me to vent. I have had it. I've taken all I can stand and I
can't stand no more. Every time my TV is on, all that can be seen is
effeminate men prancing about, redecorating houses and talking about foreign
concepts like "style" and "feng shui." Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual,
transsexual, metrosexual, non-sexual; blue, green, and purple-sexual - bogus
definitions have taken over the urban and suburban world!

Real men of the world, stand up, scratch your butt, belch, and yell
"ENOUGH!" I hereby announce the start of a new offensive in the culture
Wars, the Retrosexual movement. "

The Code :

A Retrosexual man, no matter what the women insists, PAYS FOR THE DATE.

A Retrosexual man opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that
term only because they are female.

A Retrosexual DEALS with IT, be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or
a natural disaster, you DEAL WITH IT.

A Retrosexual not only eats red meat, he often kills it himself.

A Retrosexual doesn't worry about living to be 90. It's not how long you
live, but how well. If you're 90 years old and still smoking cigars and
drinking, I salute you. If you are still having sex, you are a God.

A Retrosexual does not use more hair or skin products than a woman. Women
have several supermarket aisles of stuff. Retrosexuals need an endcap
(possibly 2 endcaps if you include shaving goods.)

A Retrosexual does not dress in clothes from Hot Topic when he's 30 years
old.

A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff
(or people) if need be. This falls under the "Dealing with IT" portion of
The Code.

A Retrosexual watches no TV show with "Queer" in the title.

A Retrosexual does not let neighbors screw up rooms in his house on
national TV.

A Retrosexual should not give up excessive amounts of manliness for women.
Some is inevitable, but major reinvention of yourself will only lead to you
becoming a froo-froo little puss, and in the long run, she ain't worth it.

A Retrosexual is allowed to seek professional help for major mental stress
such as drug/alcohol addiction, death of your entire family in a freak
treechipper accident, favorite sports team being moved to a different city,
favorite bird dog expiring, etc. You are NOT allowed to see a shrink because
Daddy didn't pay you enough attention. Daddy was busy DEALING WITH IT. When
you screwed up, he DEALT with you.

A Retrosexual will have at least one outfit in his wardrobe designed to
conceal himself from prey.

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and
ONLY a Windsor knot.

A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about
getting.

A Retrosexual knows how to use a basic set of tools. If you can't hammer a
nail, or drill a straight hole, practice in secret until you can -- or be
rightfully ridiculed for the wuss you be.

A Retrosexual knows that owning a gun is not a sign that your are riddled
with fear, guns are TOOLS and are often essential to DEAL WITH IT. Plus it's
just plain fun to fire one off in the direction of those people or things
that just need a little "wakin' up".

Crying. There are very few reason that a Retrosexual may cry, and none of
them have to do with TV commercials, movies, or soap operas. Sports teams
are sometimes a reason to cry, but the preferred method of release is
swearing or throwing the remote control. Some reasons a Retrosexual can cry
include (but are not limited to) death of a loved one, death of a pet (fish
do NOT count as pets in this case), loss of a major body part, or loss of
major body part on your Ford truck.

When a Retrosexual is on a crowded bus and or a commuter train, and a
pregnant woman, heck, any woman gets on, that retrosexual stands up and
offers his seat to that woman, then looks around at the other so-called men
still in their seats with a disgusted "you punks" look on his face.

A Retrosexual knows how to say the Pledge properly, and with the correct
emphasis and pronunciation. He also knows the words to the Star Spangled
Banner

A Retrosexual will have hobbies and habits his wife and mother do not
understand, but that are essential to his manliness, in that they offset the
acceptable manliness decline he suffers when married/engaged or in a serious
healthy relationship - i.e., hunting, boxing, shot putting, shooting,
cigars, car maintenance.

A Retrosexual knows how to sharpen his own knives and kitchen utensils.

A Retrosexual man can drive in snow (hell, a blizzard) without sliding all
over or driving under 20mph, without anxiety, and without high-centering his
ride in a snow bank.

A Retrosexual man can chop down a tree and make it land where he wants.
Wherever it lands is where he damn well wanted it to land. Except on his
truck--that would happen because of a "force of nature", and then the
retrosexual man's options are to Cry, or to DEAL with IT, or do both.

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to not only any women but any
elderly person or person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's) NOTE: The
person in military dress may turn down the offer but the Retrosexual man
will ALWAYS make the offer to them and thank them for serving their country.

A Retrosexual man doesn't need a contract -- a handshake is good enough. He
will always stand by his word even if circumstances change or the other
person deceived him.

A Retrosexual man doesn't immediately look to sue someone when he does
something stupid and hurts himself. We understand that sometimes in the
process of doing things we get hurt and we just DEAL WITH IT !

dude...while you were typing out all that, you could have been making my avatar!

[crazytalkx]

somebody should turn this into a flyer and unite all manly men!

[Ledhed]

The Code :

A Retrosexual man, no matter what the women insists, PAYS FOR THE DATE.

A Retrosexual man opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that
term only because they are female.

When a Retrosexual is on a crowded bus and or a commuter train, and a
pregnant woman, heck, any woman gets on, that retrosexual stands up and
offers his seat to that woman, then looks around at the other so-called men
still in their seats with a disgusted "you punks" look on his face.

Dude, chivalry is so 700 years ago...

[willardhaven]

For the most part I agree with the list... word to the kids.

[Lootr2Core]

will no one respond to the "in my mind" stupid point of giving seat up to EVERYONE but 2 Lts ?

[jmcc]

For some reason the comedy stylings of Jeff Foxworthy keep popping in my head when I look at the list.

[CapAmerica]

I agree with about 3/4 of that list.

[karmapolice]

I think your confusing...being a man...and being a person...a man can cry if he chooses...You should cry atleast once a month if not more...If you arent then you are keeping it all locked in and only building to your pain...Men have emotions...just as much as women do...Now stupid shit shouldnt get to you...but if I hear music or watch a deep movie...and I feel the need to cry...Damn straight im gunna cry...Im sick of this male shovinist(sp) crap...its stupid...be yourself...not an image...You are being just as bad as the TV is showing you how to be...You placing a barrier on what all men should be...when we are all unique and different people...so be yourself...not a catagory

[KingDox]

yeah that list is some good guide lines on how to be a "real" man. I always pay for the date, if she has a problem with that I just tell her that She can pay for the 2nd date(of course sometimes there is no 2nd date). Also a guy should know how to read a map and at know how to at least make 3 different mixed drinks.

To be honest, I'm not the kind of person who changes his own oil & I have AAA so I don't really plan on ever changing my own tire(but I could do it).

[QuiteBitterBeing]

Why get into this elaborate bullsh*t? I agree with about 1/2 of the list, but to say you're a real man if you follow it is sheer bullsh*t. If you're jokin around, I apologize.. but I'm voicing my opinion about your "vent".

[JSweeney]

[quote=wastedyears]Welcome to 1955. Enjoy your stay.

Just because beliefs are old doesn't automatically mean they are wrong.

It doesn't automatically mean they are right, either.

No one said they were. But to catagorically attack the credibility of all the arguments just because they are old is just folly.

I don't recall "catagorically" attacking the credibility of all the arguments any more than you "catagorically" defended them.

Prejudice against anyone, whether they be "effeminate" males, non-helpless women who are able to pay their own way on a date, people of different religious beliefs or ethnic backgrounds is not something I am willing to accept, and I felt a need to voice my opinion. Let's not forget that this is a video game deals site. The last thing I expected to grace the front page of the site was a homophobic, anti-feminism rant.

You know, I'd be more willing to hear you throughts if you addressed the specific parts of this that you don't care for. So far, we've just been throwing things around on the periphery, talking more about the veracity of data based on age moreso than anything concrete. It wasn't until this post that you actually started to place anything into more specific terms.

[Cornfedwb]

I think your confusing...being a man...and being a person...a man can cry if he chooses...You should cry atleast once a month if not more...If you arent then you are keeping it all locked in and only building to your pain...Men have emotions...just as much as women do...Now stupid shit shouldnt get to you...but if I hear music or watch a deep movie...and I feel the need to cry...Damn straight im gunna cry...Im sick of this male shovinist(sp) crap...its stupid...be yourself...not an image...You are being just as bad as the TV is showing you how to be...You placing a barrier on what all men should be...when we are all unique and different people...so be yourself...not a catagory

See.. this is why we have the problem we have now. It is NOT ok for a man to cry over nothing. Part of being a man, part of being able to run a household, hell, part of life.. is dealing with things, shit happens.. DEAL with it. The majority of women don't have the ability to look at things very logically.. they cry at anything.. men do not cry. Males can cry, men do not.

And in the immortal words of Don Corleone "You can act like a man! What's the matter with you?"

[JSweeney]

I think your confusing...being a man...and being a person...a man can cry if he chooses...You should cry atleast once a month if not more.

I believe a man can cry, but at least once a month? I don't think anyone, save maybe children should be crying as a matter of practice that often.
Emotional stressors, or things created specifically to hit emotional cues that cause crying are exceptions to this, but to come across one of these types of scenarios ever thirty days is kind of strange. Crying seems more like something that would happen in large bursts around key life events, but then kind of fall to the wayside during others.


If you arent then you are keeping it all locked in and only building to your pain

Pain is inherent to life just as joy is. You either deal with pain or are dominated by it. I choose to deal with it.


Men have emotions...just as much as women do...Now stupid shit shouldnt get to you...but if I hear music or watch a deep movie

How dare you make judgement calls on what "stupid shit" is..especially if your going to take the approach that one should be crying at least once a month. Some people have different emotional triggers. Perhaps they associate some of that "stupid shit" with a deeper trauma or emotion experience... people have a tendency to do that.


and I feel the need to cry...Damn straight im gunna cry...Im sick of this male shovinist(sp) crap
There is such a thing as being strong for others, perhaps I have a strange mindset, but I'm willing to bear the pain and suffering myself it will protect others from having to.


...its stupid...be yourself...not an image...You are being just as bad as the TV is showing you how to be

Please, there are just as many simpering fools as there are cold withdrawn introverts on TV. No one is ever going to convince me that "Friends" is socalizing young boys to not cry.


You placing a barrier on what all men should be...when we are all unique and different people...so be yourself...not a catagory

Exactly. As soon as you can deal with yourself, everything else become much more easy.

[Cornfedwb]

and I feel the need to cry...Damn straight im gunna cry...Im sick of this male shovinist(sp) crap
There is such a thing as being strong for others, perhaps I have a strange mindset, but I'm willing to bear the pain and suffering myself it will protect others from having to.

Exactly right, the man is supposed to be the pillar of the household. He holds strong when things go bad, he takes care of what needs to be done. Think back.. if you saw your father crying at every sad movie or at every emotional trauma that might come his way.. how would it have affected you.. how would you see him? Buck it up, push it down and take care of the situation.

Remember the guy who got his arm stuck under a boulder while hiking, proceeded to hack his arm off with his swiss army knife then walk 4 or so miles back to a highway? If he had sat there and cried.. he'd be dead.. instead he bucked it up and dealt with it.

PS - There needs to be a national holidy honoring that badass. We could all wish to be such a man.

[JSweeney]

Of course, we really shouldn't be looking at how everyone is different, yet rather how everyone is the same.

People are people, not labels. Sure the may possess certain characteristics that place them into these "catagories", but that does not make them thier label.

All gay men are the charicaturish buffons that the media makes them out to be.
All black men are not thugs.
All men don't fall under the labels placed on "men".

Of course, all of these labels get enterwined with others things...giving rise to such viewpoints as the one that believes some kinds of kind deeds and displays of proper manners and the like are antifemist.

I think some people just read to much into some things. I do things I'd like others to do for me...
such as hold open a door, give up a seat, etc.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

[Valkryst]

I want my 2 minutes back. (in ref. to original post)

[magilacudy]

Amen to that.

Except to the driving in a blizzard part, my Civic has no traction at all in snow or otherwise.

[bmulligan]

I want my 2 minutes back. (in ref. to original post) Quit jabbering goddamnit. Go have a good cry and watch a soap opera.


I'd like to add mixing drinks to the newly coined 'retro-sexual'. The ability to mix a drink is a very manly and necessary skill. It can impress your friends as well as the ladies. One doesn't necessarily have to know the 'suspect' drinks like an 'Orgasim', a 'Lemondrop', or 'BlowJob'. You can just ask the fairy who's ordering it to tell you what's in it. A dry martini, a scotch and soda, and a vodka tonic should suffice. Learn the proper proportions and your friends will bow down in reverence!

In addition, knowing how to order a drink properly is also necessary for civil society. Drinks with a twist are a 'no-no'. Learn what 'on the rocks', 'neat', and 'straight up' mean. There is nothing more un-manly than having to have a waitperson explain a drink to you.

Lastly, know your limits and never over drink. The ability to hold ones liquor and remain coherent is absolutely necessary to acting like a gentleman.

SALUD !

[jmcc]

I say "rubbish" to both the list and all the rebutting it's warranted. My personal philosophy is that people, if they look at themselves and are honest with themselves, know how to live their lives at an almost subconcious level, so you shouldn't second guess yourself by following any sort of code you didn't set yourself. Other than that, just treat all things, (man, woman, animal, whatever) with the measure of respect and dignity they deserve and in ANY situation, use your head first and foremost.

[bmulligan]

My personal philosophy is that people, if they look at themselves and are honest with themselves, know how to live their lives at an almost subconcious level, so you shouldn't second guess yourself by following any sort of code you didn't set yourself.

Now that's a load of BS. We are born Tabula Rasa. We don't know how to live on a 'sub-concious' level or any other way other than we've been taught to live. Accepting the code that's passed down from father to son / Mother to daughter is the basis that's allowed our civilized society to exist for millenia. Unfortunately, since we no longer feel the need to care for our children or even keep the father around anymore, our society is going to hell in a handbasket because people think they can just make up their own 'sub-concious' rules as they go along. Just do whatever feels good at the time; that's exactly how petty criminals and perverts behave!

[Trakan]

I agree with the list, but metrosexuals will never be gone.

[shortshire]

Sounds good, but I don't get the one about offering a seat to a military person (EXCEPT 2nd Lts)?????

2nd Lts is the lowest ranking officer. Fresh out of ROTC(college)

That is stupid. Great article but the thing about no 2nd lts is just rude. No enlisted either? or just 2nd lts.

below is a link to one (of many) brave men who gave their life in service (and he was a 2nd lt.)

http://www.militarycity.com/valor/257038.html

I would hope that one would offer their seat to a man like that!

Have you ever met a 2nd lts out of college, they think they are too good for anyone. They think they are real army men when they are just a bunch of wussies. They should fend for themselves. Screw ROTC college kids.

[bmulligan]

Millitary men are REAL men and will decline a seat offered from anyone.

[jmcc]

My personal philosophy is that people, if they look at themselves and are honest with themselves, know how to live their lives at an almost subconcious level, so you shouldn't second guess yourself by following any sort of code you didn't set yourself.

Now that's a load of BS. We are born Tabula Rasa. We don't know how to live on a 'sub-concious' level or any other way other than we've been taught to live. Accepting the code that's passed down from father to son / Mother to daughter is the basis that's allowed our civilized society to exist for millenia. Unfortunately, since we no longer feel the need to care for our children or even keep the father around anymore, our society is going to hell in a handbasket because people think they can just make up their own 'sub-concious' rules as they go along. Just do whatever feels good at the time; that's exactly how petty criminals and perverts behave!

Oh no, I'm not saying it's something you're born with. But, by the time you become an adult you should have an idea of what kind of life you want to live. And I believe in balance, so ideally you should live your life how you want, but accept that there will be checks. If you want to live the life of a criminal you need to understand that there will be someone who will work to stop you and if you live as a saint there will be people who want to bring you down there too. The way I see it, the problems we have in society stem from people either not being truthful to themselves about what they want from life or seeing what they want but taking the easier path instead of doing what they know is right. Tyranny and inequity are allowed in this world because few are willing to do what they know they should because it's usually a difficult path to take.

...or not. But that's what I follow for now. It works so far.

[Darkfire001]

Whoa, feels good to be a retrosexual :)

I NEVER allow any of my dates to pay for themselves, and at my job (Which allows me to pay for my dates), I wince when I see a boyfriend splitting the cost with a girl.

[Storamin]

Hey dracula. Shooting guns is awesome. You should give it a try sometime.

Riflery, Archery and marksmanship in general are a fun hobby. If only it weren't so hard to find a decent range. Of course, if there a were a decent instuctor around me and it didn't cost to much for lessons, I think I'd like to pick up swordsmanship as well.
There is a rifle & pistol range within a 15 minute drive, and the drive is all backroads, a very fun driving experience! They only charge 1$/per gun/per day.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Hope I don't offend anyone here, but what a load. 1/2 those things I do because they are the polite thing to do, not because they make me anymore or less of a man. My parents taught me you should hold the door open or give my seat up to the elderly and women because it's the right thing to do not because it makes you a "retrosexual man." The other 1/2 is either contradicting or just plain stupid IMO. Probably the one that gets to me most is the gun thing, owning a gun doesn't make you more of a man, especially if it's used as irresponibly as indicated, in fact I'd say if you rely on a gun for protection or "waking up people" you are less of a man.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

What I don't get is why should guys always have to pay for girls? Us girls have money too, and with the people I've gone out with half of them has mentioned in one way or another how they had paid for me basically trying to point out how generous they are, and trying to make me feel bad, when I've offered to split the cost or pay myself, which really makes me angry since their point is kind of void. I would rather split the cost with someone because not only does it make me feel less guilty, but I know I won't get shit later.

[Cmosfm]

I read the topic title and though "Oh god, some shit trying to get us to join the army.

Thank God it wasn't that

[JSweeney]

Hope I don't offend anyone here, but what a load. 1/2 those things I do because they are the polite thing to do, not because they make me anymore or less of a man. My parents taught me you should hold the door open or give my seat up to the elderly and women because it's the right thing to do not because it makes you a "retrosexual man."

Well put. That's the correct reason in my mind for half of the stuff as well, and everything else beyond that seemed like trivial, contradictory or just posturing.


The other 1/2 is either contradicting or just plain stupid IMO. Probably the one that gets to me most is the gun thing, owning a gun doesn't make you more of a man, especially if it's used as irresponibly as indicated, in fact I'd say if you rely on a gun for protection or "waking up people" you are less of a man.

I only agree with you halfway there. Having a gun for protection is one of the two legitimate uses of a firearm.

Those are:
1. Use for a Sport
ex. Sportsmanship with the gun on a closed range (Marksmanship, Olympic sports, etc.) or hunting
2. Use as a tool.
ex. Protection of self and others. (Police, Soldiers, etc all fall in this catagory).

But yes, if you haven't been trained in the proper handling and use of a firearm, you have no business being anywhere near them.

[JSweeney]

What I don't get is why should guys always have to pay for girls?

I think it depends on the relationship and the state in the relationship one is in. Of course, it's a highly variable thing, and more often than not, it's just the offer being made. One only insists if they know it won't be taken as offensive.


Us girls have money too, and with the people I've gone out with half of them has mentioned in one way or another how they had paid for me basically trying to point out how generous they are, and trying to make me feel bad, when I've offered to split the cost or pay myself, which really makes me angry since their point is kind of void.

I hate to say it, but they are a bunch of tools. The only time I mention money is when the waiter/tress come to the table with the bill.
I say, "I'll get that". Thus ends the extent of me talking about money.


I would rather split the cost with someone because not only does it make me feel less guilty, but I know I won't get shit later.

Again, it depends what type of and where in a relationship you are.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Cool I got Sweeney quoted...

Lemme say I don't disagree with hunting and I think police and soldiers should indeed carry them as it's means of almost life or death for them in certain cases. I could possibly see where using a gun as tool of protection of your home & family could make good sense as well. However, too often people don't train themselves to use them just like you said and any kind of tool being used without proper training is a recipie for disatser.

I agree with what Sweeney said ealier about riflery and archery being fun hobbies. I took archery for 2 and 1/2 years and though I haven't been to range in sometime I'd still find it fun to go I'm sure. (Plus archery is more "manly" IMO anyhow) But these things can only be fun when done responibly and properly. Also don't kind yourself into thinking it's just for men either, plenty of women are good shots. Actually that goes for most of those things on the list, I've seen gay men hold a door open for women before, but I doubt they'd refer themselves as retrosexuals.

[bignick]

Wow, this thread blew the fuck up! I like it!

[x0thedeadzone0x]

What I don't get is why should guys always have to pay for girls?

I think it depends on the relationship and the state in the relationship one is in. Of course, it's a highly variable thing, and more often than not, it's just the offer being made. One only insists if they know it won't be taken as offensive.


Us girls have money too, and with the people I've gone out with half of them has mentioned in one way or another how they had paid for me basically trying to point out how generous they are, and trying to make me feel bad, when I've offered to split the cost or pay myself, which really makes me angry since their point is kind of void.

I hate to say it, but they are a bunch of tools. The only time I mention money is when the waiter/tress come to the table with the bill.
I say, "I'll get that". Thus ends the extent of me talking about money.


I would rather split the cost with someone because not only does it make me feel less guilty, but I know I won't get shit later.

Again, it depends what type of and where in a relationship you are.

Sounds like you are a decent person, unlike a couple guys I've been with *coughChriscough*. I only said that because it said that they should "always", but I agree with you. All hail Sweeney. :notworth:

[ddhex27]

also, lets give it up for the dudes that take dong in the mouth!!! :? opps, wrong rally.

[hiccupleftovers]

Hey that's pretty much me. Except for the gun part (since i can't yet) and the driving in snow since over here we rarily get any and if we do it melt before it hits the ground.

[SteveMcQ]

Good read. Thanks for the post.

[Lootr2Core]

In the same vein as this 'retrosexual post' one should probably put the following (as long as we are looking back with such fondness to the 'good ol' days'


A retrosexual. ...

Does not play video games, in fact doesn't even know what the term 'video' means.

Has no internet connection, as the only conversation one needs to have is sitting on a bar stool, or over coffee at the local diner.

Has no clue what pwn, or faq, or lmao means,

takes offense at being called Cheap ass,

has a very good chance at being drafted (hence that stupid 2nd lt. thing sounds really dumb)

has a life expectancy of 25 (or wait how "retro are we going? the last one dates back to 1800 B.C)


Any more folks would like to sarcasticly add?

[jmcc]

In the same vein as this 'retrosexual post' one should probably put the following (as long as we are looking back with such fondness to the 'good ol' days'


A retrosexual. ...

Does not play video games, in fact doesn't even know what the term 'video' means.

Has no internet connection, as the only conversation one needs to have is sitting on a bar stool, or over coffee at the local diner.

Has no clue what pwn, or faq, or lmao means,

takes offense at being called Cheap ass,

has a very good chance at being drafted (hence that stupid 2nd lt. thing sounds really dumb)

has a life expectancy of 25 (or wait how "retro are we going? the last one dates back to 1800 B.C)


Any more folks would like to sarcasticly add?

Not sarcastic, but in the interest of the science behind the list I learned to tie a Windsor knot just now and I have to say, what a flabby, needlessly convoluted knot. And the thing is, I can't remember anything but the damn thing anymore. I know I had a nice, simple knot I used since I was 13, but it's been pushed out of my head by the Windsor.