Someone dumber than Gamestop employees - Gamestop customers

[Visc]

I say this over an incident at my local, and preferred, gamestop today.

As I walked in today, I say a wii system sitting on the front counter. It turns out someone was trading one in as I got there. Now, the emplyees at this GS know me quite well, we're good friends, they know my wii has been backordered 4 months now, so I asked them what they offered in trade-in credit, $160, and asked if they would mind if I counter-offered the guy, which they were fine with.

So I walked over to the gentlemen and politely offered to man $170 cash direct from the nearby ATM for the system, which was also missing its box and lacked Wii Sports when he brought it in. He thought for a moment and said:
"Nah. I'd rather get the $160 in credit."

I said ok, thanks anyways, but inside I was fuming at the stupidity of this moron. After he left, even the employees were calling him a moron, jackass, etc.

On the bright side though, they game me a Simon Belmont figuring and a Silent Hill Experience while I was there. So it wasn't a total loss I guess, but still, it sucks that someone can be as stupid as that customer.

[Layziebones]

I wouldnt of sold it to you either.

[zionoverfire]

Honestly with all the stories you read on the internet of people being mugged in PS3/Wii deals through Craig's list it sounds more like he was playing it safe.

[L337-Legend]

That's very weird...

I would have taken the deal; it was 10 dollars more, in cash. That person must have been one narrow-minded person, to sell it to gamestop rather than to you. On the upside, you didn't leave the store empty-handed.

What was Gamestop going to sell it for, used?

[Haggar]

How was he stupid? He didn't want to sell it to you.

I've have people lowball me before and I've told them I'd rather go out into the parking lot and smash the item then let them have it for what they offered.

[whoknows]

Credit does have it's good points, such as you aren't charged tax if you pay with credit. If he knew that then maybe that's why he declined your offer?

[endlessPRO]

sucks man. that guys a moron.

[Visc]

That's very weird...

I would have taken the deal; it was 10 dollars more, in cash. That person must have been one narrow-minded person, to sell it to gamestop rather than to you. On the upside, you didn't leave the store empty-handed.

What was Gamestop going to sell it for, used?


$230

[Visc]

How was he stupid? He didn't want to sell it to you.

I've have people lowball me before and I've told them I'd rather go out into the parking lot and smash the item then let them have it for what they offered.


Because I didn't lowball him; I offered him more in cash than he was getting in credit, from an ATM in the same plaza. All he would have had to have done was sit there for two minutes for me to make an ATM transaction less than twenty feet away.

[m0rningbreakfast]

Did you try $180? $190? $200?

If you didn't, you must not have wanted it that badly.

[L337-Legend]

$230

Eh. That's 20 dollars off a new w/ no Wii Sports!

According to the people who said he was playing it safe; you are inside of the Gamestop, correct? IMO, I don't like getting credit from gamestop, because they don't price match, have good sales, etc. I would have taken the 170 offer. All he had to do is run to an ATM to pick up some cash and trade right there in the Gamestop, simple as that. That's a downer he rejected it. :cry:

[Visc]

Did you try $180? $190? $200?

If you didn't, you must not have wanted it that badly.

It was missing WiiSPorts and its box - considering how high that game goes for by itself he was given a damn good offer.

[Poor2More]

Its that guy's Wii system and he chose not to sell it to you, whats the big deal? I probably wouldent have sold it to you either

[Visc]

Its that guy's Wii system and he chose not to sell it to you, whats the big deal? I probably wouldent have sold it to you either

So you'd prefer not to get the most for your system then, good to know.

[Haggar]

It was missing WiiSPorts and its box - considering how high that game goes for by itself he was given a damn good offer.

Apparently the owner disagreed, because he didn't accept your offer.

[Visc]

Apparently the owner disagreed, because he didn't accept your offer.

Another person who thinks $160 is better than $170 I see. I'll make a note of that.

[magiic]

People are stupid. Why is this shocking?

[donut]

Well, here tax is almost 9% so I would expect you to at least offer 10% more than the trade in credit or at least an extra $20 but that's just me...

I too wondered why you didn't go up some after he turned you down at the first offer...

good luck on your search...

[Haggar]

Another person who thinks $160 is better than $170 I see. I'll make a note of that.

$10 isn't going to make a difference to me. If I'm easily going to trade something into Gamestop for $160- and I'm fine with that- the weird kid coming up to me asking to buy it is going to have to do better than $10. He's not doing me any favors by getting it for $170. I'm doing him a favor selling him a $250 item for less than $250.

And yes, it had no box, no Wii Sports, and he was trading it in for $160- but the fact still remains that you didn't make a good enough counter offer. And the fact that he turned down an extra $10 does not make him stupid in my book.

(and I'm not saying you're weird- I'm saying random Gamestop customers coming up to you and asking to buy things.)

[zewone]

How was he stupid? He didn't want to sell it to you.

I've have people lowball me before and I've told them I'd rather go out into the parking lot and smash the item then let them have it for what they offered.

How was that lowballing him? It's $10 more than he sold it for.

The guy is an idiot.

[Green Card200]

Why didn't you offer to give him a $170 GameStop gift card?

[Visc]

$10 isn't going to make a difference to me. If I'm easily going to trade something into Gamestop for $160- and I'm fine with that- the weird kid coming up to me asking to buy it is going to have to do better than $10. He's not doing me any favors by getting it for $170. I'm doing him a favor selling him a $250 item for less than $250.

And yes, it had no box, no Wii Sports, and he was trading it in for $160- but the fact still remains that you didn't make a good enough counter offer. And the fact that he turned down an extra $10 does not make him stupid in my book.

(and I'm not saying you're weird- I'm saying random Gamestop customers coming up to you and asking to buy things.)

That just tells me you'd rather take less money for something than waiting 2 minutes. Frankly, if I were in his same situation I would have accepted. Wii systems are difficult to acquire in this area without being scalped by some greedy jackass. If someone offered me more of a value directly in cash than I would get in credit I would take it and get a boost in good karma. I'm not going to offer him $200+ for a system that doesn't even have all of its original contents. Had he had the game and box, I would have offered him $210 on the spot, but he didn't, so I'm not going to bend over backwards for him to rip myself off in the process.

[zewone]

Why didn't you offer to give him a $170 GameStop gift card?

Good idea, but this guy's intellect tells me he would have turned it down.

Should have offered him $150. Probably would have taken that.

[ImReallyTired]

I'm going to have to side with the guy who didn't decide to sell the Wii because cash from some guy coming up to you versus credit or even cash from a store, the store is much safer . Especially if the difference is only 10$!

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

It was missing WiiSPorts and its box - considering how high that game goes for by itself he was given a damn good offer.

Obviously NOT good enough in the customers eyes since he rejected your 'damn good offer'. Now if you offered him $190 or $200, one of those might have been the 'magic number' to make him willing to part with his system.

I've had both happen to me while in a Gamestop before(offering $$$ for someones stuff and vice versa), however some people just don't want to sell for whatever reason.

You accept that fact and move on. Of course, in this digital age when people are slighted or feel slighted(see: The Consumerist for bitchy whiners complaining about non issues, like being stopped at the door at Wal*mart to check your receipt, in many cases), they turn to the internet for a comforting 'voice' to tell them 'it's ok you did all you could and you're STILL in the right'.

But, you won't get that from me, that's for sure.

Oh and to whoever said that credit is 'tax free', I've had a couple assclowns from Gamestop AND FYE try telling me it's not from time to time. The transactions I completed with those clerks were quickly cancelled until I could get a definitive answer.

[Visc]

I'm going to have to side with the guy who didn't decide to sell the Wii because cash from some guy coming up to you versus credit or even cash from a store is much safer nowadays. Especially if the difference is only 10$!

How exactly was it safer? The ATM was less than twenty feet away; you could see if from the friggin store windows.

[Visc]

Obviously NOT good enough in the customers eyes since he rejected your 'damn good offer'. Now if you offered him $190 or $200, one of those might have been the 'magic number' to make him willing to part with his system.

I've had both happen to me while in a Gamestop before(offering $$$ for someones stuff and vice versa), however some people just don't want to sell for whatever reason.

You accept that fact and move on. Of course, in this digital age when people are slighted or feel slighted(see: The Consumerist for bitchy whiners complaining about non issues, like being stopped at the door at Wal*mart to check your receipt, in many cases), they turn to the internet for a comforting 'voice' to tell them 'it's ok you did all you could and you're STILL in the right'.

But, you won't get that from me, that's for sure.

Oh and to whoever said that credit is 'tax free', I've had a couple assclowns from Gamestop AND FYE try telling me it's not from time to time. The transactions I completed with those clerks were quickly cancelled until I could get a definitive answer.

So how exactly is $160 better than $170?

[whoknows]

Oh and to whoever said that credit is 'tax free', I've had a couple assclowns from Gamestop AND FYE try telling me it's not from time to time. The transactions I completed with those clerks were quickly cancelled until I could get a definitive answer.
Well I've never been charged tax when paying with credit at GS (only the amount paid in credit is tax free).

Can't say for FYE though because I've rarely traded in there.

Still, if the no tax thing is true at the GS he was at then $160 Credit>$170 Cash if he planned to spend it all at GS.

[schuerm26]

If Im doing my math correctly and only assuming a sales tax rate of 7% (this is low for a lot of suburbs and cities I think)

AND assuming he is just going to spend the money again at Gamestop (which it sounds like he was going to do), he made a smart decision and saved himself $1.20!!!!

160 spent in cash equals 11.20 in sales tax at 7%

By taking the $160 in tax free credit he saved himself $1.20

Should have upped the offer.

[zewone]

I get taxed on credit all the time.

It happens so often, I don't even care anymore.

[Visc]

If Im doing my math correctly and only assuming a sales tax rate of 7% (this is low for a lot of suburbs and cities I think)

AND assuming he is just going to spend the money again at Gamestop (which it sounds like he was going to do), he made a smart decision and saved himself $1.20!!!!

160 spent in cash equals 11.20 in sales tax at 7%

By taking the $160 in tax free credit he saved himself $1.20

Should have upped the offer.

Connecticut sales tax is 6%.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

So how exactly is $160 better than $170?

It's not, but since the customer saw that you were willing to try and get the system from him, he figured that maybe if he said no to $170 that you might UP the offer till it looked more attractive to him.

Believe me, if I had something that I was getting rid of to a store via trade in and someone said 'ill offer you more', I'd expect AT LEAST 20% over the stores 'offer'.

Plus, the guy probably thought you might try to pass him some fake bills or something, which is why perhaps he denied your offer.

Honestly, the only person who knows what the reason for him saying no is the guy himself.

The only thing you can do in this case is look out for another person trading a Wii in and make a more generous offer next time.

[schuerm26]

Connecticut sales tax is 6%.


As stated, it will vary

places around KC and St. Louis are almost 8%

[Segasonic01]

wow, I didn't know that some people on these boards have such little common sense that they dont realize $170 in cash is better than 160 in credit.

[schuerm26]

I get taxed on credit all the time.

It happens so often, I don't even care anymore.

Your not supposed to so that be your fault for not fighting it, though I couldn't tell you if this varies by state

[SaraAB]

Ok, first of all I would NEVER buy a used system off someone trading it in to gamestop. Chances are that system is broken in some way or another, whether they tried to cover it up or not just so it would work for the initial test (how many people have done the towel trick on the Xbox360 just to get it work long enough to trade it in!) is unknown. Gamestop is basically the dump for systems that are just about to break, so I would NEVER buy a system off someone who was just about to trade it in, its really not safe because there is no guarantee and you could have put that 170$ towards a new working Wii that you know would work.

[Poor2More]

he dident know what you would try to do to him once he left the store, he was just playing it safe, dotting his I's and crossing his T's

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

wow, I didn't know that some people on these boards have such little common sense that they dont realize $170 in cash is better than 160 in credit.

But $190-200 would've been MUCH more desirable of an amount, which is what I think most of us are thinking the guy was holding out for, for the OP to UP the offer to something a little more lucrative.

Ok, first of all I would NEVER buy a used system off someone trading it in to gamestop. Chances are that system is broken in some way or another, whether they tried to cover it up or not just so it would work for the initial test (how many people have done the towel trick on the Xbox360 just to get it work long enough to trade it in!) is unknown. Gamestop is basically the dump for systems that are just about to break, so I would NEVER buy a system off someone who was just about to trade it in, its really not safe because there is no guarantee and you could have put that 170$ towards a new working Wii that you know would work.

I've never done that with a system before, only TWO PS2's including one with a laser assembly which scratched games to hell and one with a laser with maybe 2 weeks left before it croaked.

So, not as much as other people, but I'm definitely guilty of that.

[Segasonic01]

he dident know what you would try to do to him once he left the store, he was just playing it safe, dotting his I's and crossing his T's
Why would he give him money for the Wii & then follow him outside? I'm pretty sure the guy was just dumb, not fearing for his life...

[Segasonic01]

But $190-200 would've been MUCH more desirable of an amount, which is what I think most of us are thinking the guy was holding out for, for the OP to UP the offer to something a little more lucrative.
I guess at least $180 would be better, but still...

[Visc]

But $190-200 would've been MUCH more desirable of an amount, which is what I think most of us are thinking the guy was holding out for, for the OP to UP the offer to something a little more lucrative.

If he had bothered to bring everything that came with it I would have given him a better offer, as I stated. He didn't, so I'm not going to rip myself off in the process.

[Poor2More]

Why would he give him money for the Wii & then follow him outside? I'm pretty sure the guy was just dumb, not fearing for his life...

I really dident know Gamestop would let you make a transaction with a customer right under their nose in their store.

Figure you would have to go outside to do the swap

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

If he had bothered to bring everything that came with it I would have given him a better offer, as I stated. He didn't, so I'm not going to rip myself off in the process.

You're not going to 'rip yourself off' but it's ok to offer him a paltry $10 more than they offered and consider it a 'damn good offer'. I love when people try to lowball others on the worth of their stuff, then get pissed off when someone isn't stupid enough to sell for that price.

[Visc]

I really dident know Gamestop would let you make a transaction with a customer right under their nose in their store.

Figure you would have to go outside to do the swap


I do it all the time there. The staff there happen to be good friends of mine so they don't mind. Heck, I did it two more times that same trip for a copy of Kingdom Hearts 2 and a dreamcast system (I let someone else get the latter though since I knew him and it was for his neice).

[Visc]

You're not going to 'rip yourself off' but it's ok to offer him a paltry $10 more than they offered and consider it a 'damn good offer'. I love when people try to lowball others on the worth of their stuff, then get pissed off when someone isn't stupid enough to sell for that price.

So $160 isn't a lowball offer but $170 is?

[ikariwarriors]

Someone dumber than Gamestop employees...


The staff there happen to be good friends of mine


you sound kind of mean to your friends.

[donut]

I really dident know Gamestop would let you make a transaction with a customer right under their nose in their store.

Figure you would have to go outside to do the swap

Normally they really frown on it. I have a store like the ops, and have become friends with the manager and revolving staff...(dropping in with snacks and nice e-mails to corporate help...) I bought a coral DS from a gal for I think $60 in store with the manager's blessing ... the store ran out of cash so it saved her a trip to another store and I gave her the "credit" amount rounded up Vs the cash amount...it did include all the packaging and was in pristine condition...the manager even allowed a game to be borrowed to test it...too much Judge Judy...lol

[Visc]

you sound kind of mean to your friends.

Two gamestops within a quarter mile of each other. One is full of douchebags, the other, this one, staffed with good people. The other store happens to fill the GS employee stereotype quite perfectly.

[JJSP]

$160 in easy store credit or $170 from some random guy?

There's still only a $10 difference. If you really wanted it, you'd have offered more. We all know that we'd never trade a Wii in for $170, let alone $160. You just got out-cheapassed.

[saigumi]

Wow... I can't believe so many CAG'ers fail at math.

Ok, the sales tax arguement is bunk. If you buy something at GS with your credit, you still get taxed. No if's and's or but's about it. They take it from your credit.

I'm wondering that if I walked up to and offered you either 2 twenty dollar bills or 3 ten dollar bills how many of you would take the tens because there is more of them. Or if I had a 3 for the price of two sale, how many I would sell?

Green and folds is worth more to me than credit. Ask all those Sharper Image card holders really wish they had the cash now?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

So $160 isn't a lowball offer but $170 is?

But, IF you REALLY wanted it, you would've offered a bit more than $10 more than what they were going to give the guy in credit. It's all about getting the most for what you have, which goes BOTH ways in this instance.

I never said their offer of $160 wasn't a lowball, but yours wasn't MUCH better, as was obvious by his denial of your offer.

[Visc]

$160 in easy store credit or $170 from some random guy?

There's still only a $10 difference. If you really wanted it, you'd have offered more. We all know that we'd never trade a Wii in for $170, let alone $160. You just got out-cheapassed.

So waiting for 2 minutes while I hit the ATM that you can see from inside the store isn't easy now? So tell me how thats inferior to $160?

[JJSP]

So waiting for 2 minutes while I hit the ATM that you can see from inside the store isn't easy now? So tell me how thats inferior to $160?
Because it's only ten bucks. You're just bitter because you didn't get to rip a guy off.

[Visc]

But, IF you REALLY wanted it, you would've offered a bit more than $10 more than what they were going to give the guy in credit. It's all about getting the most for what you have, which goes BOTH ways in this instance.

I never said their offer of $160 wasn't a lowball, but yours wasn't MUCH better, as was obvious by his denial of your offer.

He didn't even bother to turn in WiiSports with it, so I would have had to have bought a copy online since the store didn't have any. I took out the cost I would have likely ended up paying for one out of the offer he would have gotten should he have bothered to bring the game with him, and he still would have gotten a better price. Is there something wrong with that?

[Visc]

Because it's only ten bucks. You're just bitter because you didn't get to rip a guy off.

How am I ripping him off if I gave him a better offer on a system with no game included? So in your mind the GS offer was picture perfect then. Nice to know.

[anch]

be thankful that it could be a brick wii.

costumer can do much better trading in system and games when they can do that in craigslist or ebay. in conclusion, they are dumb.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

He didn't even bother to turn in WiiSports with it, so I would have had to have bought a copy online since the store didn't have any. I took out the cost I would have likely ended up paying for one out of the offer he would have gotten should he have bothered to bring the game with him, and he still would have gotten a better price. Is there something wrong with that?

So wait, when you buy a used system if it were one of the models that CAME with a pack-in game, you expect the pack-in game to be with it? Did you ever think that maybe this guy sold off WiiSports on Ebay or someplace to make it so he's not losing THAT much on offloading the system?

Either way, I can see you're not going to let this go. You thought you gave him a 'phenomenal deal considering he didn't have the game', he obviously thought otherwise. So, he took their offer, you didn't get a Wii for under MSRP and you're gonna bitch and moan and call him stupid for not taking some random persons paltry $10 more offer.

I'm done, continue trying to convince others of how 'damn good' your offer was, since I woulda laughed in your face and said 'I can get more for this on CL or Ebay than that just by itself', followed by me giving you the middle finger for such a lowball 'damn good offer'.

[JJSP]

How am I ripping him off if I gave him a better offer on a system with no game included? So in your mind the GS offer was picture perfect then. Nice to know.
Both offers suck, but when you can freely find a Wii in stores, then you can dictate what a "fair" offer is.

Like I said, GameStop ripped him off. No sense in being bitter that you didn't get to.

[neocisco]

Let's make this clear. Visc did not "lowball" or "try to rip off" the guy. $160 in credit good only at GS versus $170 US legal tender good anywhere. There's nothing to argue about here. Visc made the guy a better offer, that's a fact. Who knows what motivated the guy to turn it down. True, Visc could have upped his offer to $180 but he didn't. Could Visc have tried a little harder? Sure. Did the guy make a mistake? Definitely. Did Visc try to rip the guy off? Absolutely not. Am I going to stop answering my own questions? Outcome unknown...

[whoknows]

Ok, the sales tax arguement is bunk. If you buy something at GS with your credit, you still get taxed. No if's and's or but's about it. They take it from your credit.
Nope. I bought Assassins Creed back at release all with trade in and I was charged $59.99. No tax. Besides that, I've never ever been charged when paying with credit and the employees have even given me that as a reason to trade stuff in. I guess every GS I've been to has been doing something wrong then. If they charge you tax and you're paying with credit you should say something, otherwise you fail.

[Sinnbox]

I have done several buys inside of gamestores when the owner said it was cool. The local store here only gives credit so the owner lets me buy anything if someone dosent wasnt to trade for credit, and I usualy ask what they want for it. They usualy give a price less than the ammount of credit they would have gotten.

[Visc]

So wait, when you buy a used system if it were one of the models that CAME with a pack-in game, you expect the pack-in game to be with it? Did you ever think that maybe this guy sold off WiiSports on Ebay or someplace to make it so he's not losing THAT much on offloading the system?

Either way, I can see you're not going to let this go. You thought you gave him a 'phenomenal deal considering he didn't have the game', he obviously thought otherwise. So, he took their offer, you didn't get a Wii for under MSRP and you're gonna bitch and moan and call him stupid for not taking some random persons paltry $10 more offer.

I'm done, continue trying to convince others of how 'damn good' your offer was, since I woulda laughed in your face and said 'I can get more for this on CL or Ebay than that just by itself', followed by me giving you the middle finger for such a lowball 'damn good offer'.

In other words, you would act like a douchebag having a tantrum inside the store because I wouldn't go far beyond GS's offer. Bottom line is he didn't bother to "get more on CL or Ebay". He took an inferior offer from Gamestop, yet you think $10 less is somehow better.

He would have gotten a better price, GS wouldn't get to rip someone off on a used, gameless wii, and I would have saved enough money to buy the actual game that was missing. And yet you think thats wrong.

So by your own logic I should expect you to take the lowest possible offer on all your penny guides then, shouldn't I?

[neocisco]

Nope. I bought Assassins Creed back at release all with trade in and I was charged $59.99. No tax. Besides that, I've never ever been charged when paying with credit and the employees have even given me that as a reason to trade stuff in. I guess every GS I've been to has been doing something wrong then. If they charge you tax and you're paying with credit you should say something, otherwise you fail.

It varies from state to state.

[Nathan_Sama]

was he in a hurry?

[whoknows]

It varies from state to state.

Guess I'm in a good state :-P

[Visc]

Let's make this clear. Visc did not "lowball" or "try to rip off" the guy. $160 in credit good only at GS versus $170 US legal tender good anywhere. There's nothing to argue about here. Visc made the guy a better offer, that's a fact. Who knows what motivated the guy to turn it down. True, Visc could have upped his offer to $180 but he didn't. Could Visc have tried a little harder? Sure. Did the guy make a mistake? Definitely. Did Visc try to rip the guy off? Absolutely not. Am I going to stop answering my own questions? Outcome unknown...

Thank you. Its nice to see someone here with a decent concept of the situation here.

Considering he didn't have Wii Sports, I offered him what I considered fair which would not put a too tight of a cirumstance on an upcoming trip next weekend. I don't get how GS offers him a worse deal, and yet I'm the ass for offering something better and ditching the middleman. Even the GS employees thought the guy made a dumb move, but I'm the jerk. Right. Becuase I wouldn't go all out for what I consider an incomplete Wii system. Brilliant logic.

[Visc]

was he in a hurry?

Not in the least.

[Haggar]

I offered him what I considered fair which would not put a too tight of a cirumstance on an upcoming trip next weekend. I don't get how GS offers him a worse deal, and yet I'm the ass for offering something better and ditching the middleman. but I'm the jerk. Right. Becuase I wouldn't go all out for what I consider an incomplete Wii system. Brilliant logic.

Maybe you just rubbed him the wrong way.

[Visc]

Maybe you just rubbed him the wrong way.

How? I was in the store for maybe 3 minutes by the time I spoke to him.

[Sinnbox]

I have never seen so many upset people, $170 is a good offer for a used Wii. If the guy was smart he would have sold it on Ebay. but he decided to take it to Gameshaft....for trade.

Retail Wii+Wii Sports = 250.00
so basicly
Wii = $200.00
Wii Sports = $50.00

so a used Wii console for $170 is only $30 off retail. a $30 hit when reselling a system is a great deal!! has anyone here ever sold a used system for $30 less than MSRP? I doubt many of you have.

[Sinnbox]

How? I was in the store for maybe 3 minutes by the time I spoke to him?

I tend to hangout in gamestores and talk to the workers, and i know some customers consider that to be the sign of a looser.

P.S. you said some guy tried to trade in a dreamcast....I love it when im in a GS and someone tries to tradein on old school stuff....i always walk out with some goodies for cheap.

[Visc]

I tend to hangout in gamestores and talk to the workers, and i know some customers consider that to be the sign of a looser.

P.S. you said some guy tried to trade in a dreamcast....I love it when im in a GS and someone tries to tradein on old school stuff....i always walk out with some goodies for cheap.


Actually it was a 12 year old kid in this circumstance. He was trading in a gamecube system, dreamcast system, and ps2 games. Like I said, I let someone else who frequents the store buy the DC for his neice, at the price the kid asked for, while I bought one of the PS2 games, Kingdom Hearts 2, for more than the store offered (I paid 10, they offered 8).

As it happens, the guy who bought the dreamcast is now going to give the kid's dad an NES sytem, after he mentioned he wished he still had one with Mario/Duckhunt.

Come to think of it, someone traded a wavebird in when I was there too but I was too busy talking to the kid's dad at the time. I may have to go back and grab it for $18.

[JJSP]

Would any single person in this thread sell their Wii for $170?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

In other words, you would act like a douchebag having a tantrum inside the store because I wouldn't go far beyond GS's offer. Bottom line is he didn't bother to "get more on CL or Ebay". He took an inferior offer from Gamestop, yet you think $10 less is somehow better.

He would have gotten a better price, GS wouldn't get to rip someone off on a used, gameless wii, and I would have saved enough money to buy the actual game that was missing. And yet you think thats wrong.

So by your own logic I should expect you to take the lowest possible offer on all your penny guides then, shouldn't I?

First off, I wouldn't pull a tantrum if someone refused to sell me their stuff for cheaper, since I can understand not wanting to be lowballed.

Second, he COULD have gone to CL or EBay. Albeit, he didn't, which was stupid, but we never did say that Gamestop customers were the smartest bunch, did we? Well, except for those of us here who have flipped to Gamestop before and had them taking a loss on the stuff we traded.

Third, if they still strip out any pack in games or peripherals from the systems(as they did for the internet adapter for the fat PS2s) and sell them seperately, then who is to say that if he brought the WiiSports game in, that they wouldn't have done as such?

Oh and I never accept lowball offers, so I'd just refuse to respond if you tried to 'offer me the lowest possible price' for ANYTHING I'm selling.

And yes, $170 in cash IS better than $160 in credit, but it was HIS prerogative to sell his system where he wanted to, you're just mad he didn't take your offer which is why he's 'dumb'.

[SlimJim0725]

sorry, but if he is going to use the credit there anyways, you were not really giving him that great of a deal. to the guy say the being offered is good anywhere, yes it is, but it has tax on it and if he was just buying games anyways, why not take the credit and go tax free? i dont know what is with everyone else's gamestops "charging tax" on credit, but not a single one in richmond that i have been to has ever charged tax on store credit. store credit is only from a trade in, not a deposit on a pre-order that some of you may be mistaking it for. i personally think you both lowballed him and you really didn't want the system that bad if you didn't up your offer. if he had brought wii sports in, he would have had to trade it in seperately from the system itself, so maybe he gave it to a friend or something.

you are obviously having a hard time letting go that he didn't accept your little $10 more offer, but i kind of think you deserve it for not offering at least $20 more. gamestop would have thrown the box away and made him trade in wii sports, he didn't expect someone else to counter-offer, so he didn't bring them. considering he could have sold the system with just the controllers and cables for close to $250 still, your offer was not that great IMO (gamestops wasn't any better before you start throwing a fit at me). just get over it and move on, cancel your backordered wii and go wait at a store on a sunday when you see it listed in the weekly ads that speedy so kindly provides. there are so many people in these forums that say it is impossible, but with the ads being up so early from him, you have plenty of time to prepare to go to that store, you just choose not to go there.

i would have been nice about it except the fact that you seem to be throwing a little fit about it just because he didn't want to take your offer. grow up and let it go, he doesn't have to take your offer and he obviously has his reason for turning you down. it doesn't have to make sense to you as long as it did to him, waiting 2 mins may have inconvinced him for a measly $10 from a stranger that he doesn't trust.

[KingofOldSchool]

It's $10, get over it.

If anything be lucky you got some cool swag from your trip and save up that extra $80 to buy a brand new system.

[Visc]

sorry, but if he is going to use the credit there anyways, you were not really giving him that great of a deal. to the guy say the being offered is good anywhere, yes it is, but it has tax on it and if he was just buying games anyways, why not take the credit and go tax free? i dont know what is with everyone else's gamestops "charging tax" on credit, but not a single one in richmond that i have been to has ever charged tax on store credit. store credit is only from a trade in, not a deposit on a pre-order that some of you may be mistaking it for. i personally think you both lowballed him and you really didn't want the system that bad if you didn't up your offer. if he had brought wii sports in, he would have had to trade it in seperately from the system itself, so maybe he gave it to a friend or something.

you are obviously having a hard time letting go that he didn't accept your little $10 more offer, but i kind of think you deserve it for not offering at least $20 more. gamestop would have thrown the box away and made him trade in wii sports, he didn't expect someone else to counter-offer, so he didn't bring them. considering he could have sold the system with just the controllers and cables for close to $250 still, your offer was not that great IMO (gamestops wasn't any better before you start throwing a fit at me). just get over it and move on, cancel your backordered wii and go wait at a store on a sunday when you see it listed in the weekly ads that speedy so kindly provides. there are so many people in these forums that say it is impossible, but with the ads being up so early from him, you have plenty of time to prepare to go to that store, you just choose not to go there.

i would have been nice about it except the fact that you seem to be throwing a little fit about it just because he didn't want to take your offer. grow up and let it go, he doesn't have to take your offer and he obviously has his reason for turning you down. it doesn't have to make sense to you as long as it did to him, waiting 2 mins may have inconvinced him for a measly $10 from a stranger that he doesn't trust.

I would counter your insults, but you're a self-admitted Inuyasha fan. Thats punishment enough.
As for waiting on a Sunday morning for a wii, sure, I'll get right on that when you take over my work shift. I don't know how you waste your weekends but I spend my Sundays helping my uncle on his farm at 5 in the morning. Some of us don't exactly have the "privilege" of waiting in a line for several hours before a store opens, so if I want to rant about how a guy thought $160 was better than $170, its my perogative. Don't like it? Don't read the thread. Its that simple.
And to everyone else who thinks I'm not allowed to get angry at something, noone is forcing you to comment here, so don't be surprised if I value your opinions slightly less than the cow manure I shovel out of the barn on Sunday mornings.

[Haggar]

Yeah, you probably DID rub the guy the wrong way.

Can't imagine why.

[KingofOldSchool]

I would counter your insults, but you're a self-admitted Inuyasha fan. Thats punishment enough.


So says the guy who evidently just received an Inuyasha game from Goozex.

[Visc]

Yeah, you probably DID rub the guy the wrong way.

Can't imagine why.


Ah yes, another person who thinks I'm not allowed to rant once in a while chimes in. If you have an issue with me trying to vent then come out and say it.

[Kuros]

*facepalm at everyone arguing with Visc here*

170 > 160
Cash > Credit

The guy was a drooling moron.

[Visc]

So says the guy who evidently just received an Inuyasha game from Goozex.

Not saying I didn't, but it doesn't mean I got it for myself.

[KingofOldSchool]

*facepalm at everyone arguing with Visc here*

170 > 160
Cash > Credit

The guy was a drooling moron.

Maybe the guy was building up credit at GS.

Maybe the guy didn't want to carry the much cash around.

Maybe the guy didn't want to deal with some random guy trying to one up GS.

Who knows why the guy didn't accept, but why does it matter? It was only $10 more, it's not like the guy turned down an offer for $210 or something.

[Kuros]

Maybe the guy was building up credit at GS.

Maybe the guy didn't want to carry the much cash around.

Maybe the guy didn't want to deal with some random guy trying to one up GS.

Who knows why the guy didn't accept, but why does it matter? It was only $10 more, it's not like the guy turned down an offer for $210 or something.

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Despite what you and others have said, the guy was an idiot. If I was working at that Gamestop, I would have looked at him funny.

[whoknows]

So was the $160 before or after the $10 bonus for trading in a console?

[zewone]

He Could Have Bought A $170 Gc At Gs If He Wanted To Build Up Gs Credit Or Just Add It To His Other Card With Credit On It.

[Proto Man]

I don't see why everyone's scoffing at the $10 more offer. It's not great, but it still is more than what the guy would have gotten at GS. The site is called "Cheap Ass Gamer" after all, why should he pay more?

As for OP, yeah it sucks, but what're you gonna do. Maybe you should have offered to buy him a 170 giftcard :whee:

[Visc]

So was the $160 before or after the $10 bonus for trading in a console?

I'm willing to bet after, since when I asked what they were offering I got "we're giving him a total of $160 altogether".

[JJSP]

I still don't see how passing up TEN DOLLARS makes you an idiot.

Seriously, at first you were bitching about not getting a cheap Wii. You've moved on to sounding like a five year old whining about it, and have even employed the childish insults whenever someone disagrees with you.

Get a livejournal, FFS.

[Visc]

I still don't see how passing up TEN DOLLARS makes you an idiot.

Seriously, at first you were bitching about not getting a cheap Wii. You've moved on to sounding like a five year old whining about it, and have even employed the childish insults whenever someone disagrees with you.

Get a livejournal, FFS.

I've only given insults when I've gotten them. You have a problem with that?

[JJSP]

I've only given insults when I've gotten them. You have a problem with that?
Relatively sure this thread started with you calling the guy who passed up ten bucks an idiot, toughguy. ;)

[KingofOldSchool]

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Maybe the guy was an idiot?

Despite what you and others have said, the guy was an idiot. If I was working at that Gamestop, I would have looked at him funny.

The guy was an idiot for making up his own mind?

[mike.m]

Used to manage a video game store in WA state and you don't pay tax when you buy games with store credit.

Seriously, if you wanted the system that bad, you'd have offered him more than $10 over the GS quote. Clearly you didn't want it that bad. I don't see any reason you should be 'venting' about it. People do a lot worse stupid things in this world than trade in a Wii at GS.

[KingofOldSchool]

Used to manage a video game store in WA state and you don't pay tax when you buy games with store credit.

Seriously, if you wanted the system that bad, you'd have offered him more than $10 over the GS quote. Clearly you didn't want it that bad. I don't see any reason you should be 'venting' about it. People do a lot worse stupid things in this world than trade in a Wii at GS.

But the guy didn't sell it to the TC for $10 more, he rather give his Wii to the nasty, evil Gamestop empire.

HE IS TEH MORONZ!!11!1

[dinaboo]

If you buy something at GS with your credit, you still get taxed. No if's and's or but's about it. They take it from your credit.


Not necessarily. In my experience, it depends on location.

I recently bought a $14.99 game (Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble) in a GS store in suburban Chicago. They rang it up with tax added. But when I said that I was paying with a GS credit, he took off the tax and deducted exactly $14.99 from my card.

A few days later, I bought Phantom Hourglass in a GS in suburban Salt Lake City. They charged tax, even though I put it on the card. I mentioned that I didn't pay tax in Chicago, and they said that the state of Utah gets theirs, no matter what. :)

[qruqid]

it was a safer deal for the $10 less than to follow a perfect stranger to a different location ..... now if you had the cash in hand or made it worth the risk it would be a different story

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

LOL This is still going on? DAMN!! I thought a mod would've locked this by now. If someone doesn't though, this thread may take on the epic proportions of the 'billg Circuit City thread' with the sheer amount of whining.

To sum up the billg thread for those who didn't read it, a CAG with a sn 'billg' went into CC either later on Black Friday or the day after BF and wanted to get the BF prices on some items that either the store was sold out of or was only doing a doorbuster on for 1-3 hours. Well, 'bill' got all riled up over the fact that he couldn't get this deal now and DEMANDED they cut the price on a similar item and match what CC's website was showing for the price on some of the items.

Lots of people commented on how he was wrong to want them to cater to him by giving him the special price outside of the hours of the doorbuster special, some came in with a Consumerist attitude figuring that he should've been catered to. Much bickering ensued and I think the thread was eventually locked because of it.

All in all, it was a fun thread to read, specially all of the self righteous people saying he should 'go after CC for what he is owed'. This is why retailers enjoy the Joe Shmoes who come in, buy stuff at full retail and walk back out happy they just got something and mark many of us from CAG as 'devil customers.

[cdietschrun]

This thread is dead and buried.

[KingofOldSchool]

I don't see why everyone's scoffing at the $10 more offer. It's not great, but it still is more than what the guy would have gotten at GS. The site is called "Cheap Ass Gamer" after all, why should he pay more?

As for OP, yeah it sucks, but what're you gonna do. Maybe you should have offered to buy him a 170 giftcard :whee:

Sometimes it's better to play it safe than to go "OMGZ I CAN GET $10 MORE FROM THIS FINE GENTLEMAN STANDING IN THE DARK CORNER OVER THERE!"

The TC could of been some sleazy guy that caused the person to think twice about agreeing to the deal. The guy could try to pass counterfeit money, mug him afterwards, whatever.

For only $10 more it just wasn't worth risk for him and who could blame him for making a rational decision rather than trying make a couple of extra bucks?

[Cmosfm]

I agree with everyone in here, you only offered 10.00 more, that's nothing...shoulda offered at LEAST 180.00 to make it worth his time.

I wouldn't have taken it either.

[KingofOldSchool]

To sum up the billg thread for those who didn't read it, a CAG with a sn 'billg' went into CC either later on Black Friday or the day after BF and wanted to get the BF prices on some items that either the store was sold out of or was only doing a doorbuster on for 1-3 hours. Well, 'bill' got all riled up over the fact that he couldn't get this deal now and DEMANDED they cut the price on a similar item and match what CC's website was showing for the price on some of the items.



LOL

Wow. Although I'm not surprised, I've experienced customers like that before.

[Visc]

Actually I pretty much got over that what happened at the store; I'm actually even more amazed that people seem to think I'm not allowed to rant or vent here, yet they don't seem to have any problem when other people do it. Its all too familiar to the people who tell me I should pretend to be happy 24/7 because they don't like it when people aren't cheerful to ad naseum.

[Proto Man]

Sometimes it's better to play it safe than to go "OMGZ I CAN GET $10 MORE FROM THIS FINE GENTLEMAN STANDING IN THE DARK CORNER OVER THERE!"

The TC could of been some sleazy guy that caused the person to think twice about agreeing to the deal. The guy could try to pass counterfeit money, mug him afterwards, whatever.

For only $10 more it just wasn't worth risk for him and who could blame him for making a rational decision rather than trying make a couple of extra bucks? Understandable, but from what I gathered the transaction could have still taken place at the store if it would make the seller more comfortable. As for the other rationale, also understandable.

But, since we're on the subject of some Gamestop customers, I recall many a time when people came in and asked for a game and gave the clerk crap for it not being in or something. I was at a GS just perusing the selection with this goon and his skank walk in wanting Mario Party 8. The game had been delayed or something and they started flipping out on the clerk. I kept to myself since I didn't wanna get jumped by the jackass, but it was still funny. Having worked in a similar retail environment, I could commiserate.

[Demolition Man]

:rofl:

Personally I would of said "screw it" to both the OP and Gamestop then sold that Wii on eBay or Craigslist since I would get more for it. But that's just me.

Edit: Then again this is coming from someone who got his Wii on eBay with Wii Sports, Zelda and Red Steel a year ago for $320. The seller I got it from used it at best 10 hours then decided they didn't want it anymore. I happened to find their buy it now auction literaly one minute after they started it. Keep in mind that this was at the time when one was lucky to get just the system with Wii Sports itself for I believe $500-700ish. So I got very lucky. :D

[Proto Man]

I got mine the old fashioned way: camping in front of a Target :)

[rainking187]

Not necessarily. In my experience, it depends on location.

I recently bought a $14.99 game (Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble) in a GS store in suburban Chicago. They rang it up with tax added. But when I said that I was paying with a GS credit, he took off the tax and deducted exactly $14.99 from my card.

A few days later, I bought Phantom Hourglass in a GS in suburban Salt Lake City. They charged tax, even though I put it on the card. I mentioned that I didn't pay tax in Chicago, and they said that the state of Utah gets theirs, no matter what. :)


Wow, I didn't even know that was a thing. I've bought lots of stuff at GS using credit, and I've always had to pay tax. My state sucks.

I've got to say I don't think the guy who turned down the ten bucks was stupid. The GS employees told you it was alright to counter offer the guy, but did he know that? Most places I've been to that buy movies, games, trading cards etc. will ban you from the store if they catch you trying to set up a deal with someone else on their premises. He probably wasn't willing to risk that for $10.

[hero101]

Somehow if you have the entire $170 (cash in hand) at the precise moment and showed it him, he would have accepted. He probably didn't trust OP at the time because his wallet was empty and the OP might seem shady.

[tsunami_bomb3r]

damn. too late to get my two cents in...

aw fuck it, it's the internet.

Any arguements against OP need to reconsider their hypothetical sittuations and look at numbers. He was in a gamestop with two employees that could vouch for the buyer (or provide the protection of an open environment with high pedestrian traffic should the deal go south), physical distance or significant ammounts of time were not an issue, and he was offered a better deal by the potential buyer -- $170 cash money as opposed to "$"160 (really just a number in a computer at a store).

OP makes the point that wii sports was not included. look at eBay prices (the only place to have a decent chance of finding a copy), and you'll see ~$50. And the point of the wii ("we") is communal gaming. The first thing everyone wants to do is play Bowling or Tennis when they see my Wii (giggidy). Wii Sports is part of the essential Wii experience

also, minus box and instructions (lowering the BUYER'S resale value substatially) the buyer's already out ~$60-$70 worth of resale value.

the arguement concerining tax -- i've always been taxed on credit at gamestop AND gamecrazy here in so-cal.

and $10? I'd take it. $10 is a lot of money, especially in the world of videogames. is it less than $20 or $30? of course. But those are hypothetical numbers. the guy might have come up $20 or $30, but that's up in the air. it's a DEFINATE that he could have been up by $10. So what's going to happen when the guy's hurting for gas money, or at work the day before payday? he's boned, that's what he is, because the local sandwich place doesn't take gamestop credit.

in coclusion, the internet is for arguing, bad spelling, and grammar errors, people too stubborn to take a deal on principle should be shot, thecheapestgamer doesn't really have an opinion and just enjoys being a conservative devil's advocate douche, and i understand the OP's blinding frustration at the people who take the seller's side with innane, imagined, unfounded reasoning.

btw, thecheapestgamer, this is NOTHING like the billg thread. he was a douchebag who took potshots at alzheimer's patients, refused a deal much better than any of us argueing the day after Black Friday could ever have dreamed of, and thought he was witty. He wasn't. Being sardonic for a three page rant just makes you sound like a prick.

[mattheus]

Somehow if you have the entire $170 (cash in hand) at the precise moment and showed it him, he would have accepted. He probably didn't trust OP at the time because his wallet was empty and the OP might seem shady.

I was thinking the same thing

[dastly75]

Somehow if you have the entire $170 (cash in hand) at the precise moment and showed it him, he would have accepted. He probably didn't trust OP at the time because his wallet was empty and the OP might seem shady.

This.

[Demolition Man]

Somehow if you have the entire $170 (cash in hand) at the precise moment and showed it him, he would have accepted. He probably didn't trust OP at the time because his wallet was empty and the OP might seem shady.

The thing is that the OP would had to of known prior to entering Gamestop to have that $170 on hand with him.

[pulsar0510]

I say this over an incident at my local, and preferred, gamestop today.

As I walked in today, I say a wii system sitting on the front counter. It turns out someone was trading one in as I got there. Now, the emplyees at this GS know me quite well, we're good friends, they know my wii has been backordered 4 months now, so I asked them what they offered in trade-in credit, $160, and asked if they would mind if I counter-offered the guy, which they were fine with.

So I walked over to the gentlemen and politely offered to man $170 cash direct from the nearby ATM for the system, which was also missing its box and lacked Wii Sports when he brought it in. He thought for a moment and said:
"Nah. I'd rather get the $160 in credit."

I said ok, thanks anyways, but inside I was fuming at the stupidity of this moron. After he left, even the employees were calling him a moron, jackass, etc.

On the bright side though, they game me a Simon Belmont figuring and a Silent Hill Experience while I was there. So it wasn't a total loss I guess, but still, it sucks that someone can be as stupid as that customer.
I had to edit my original post down in order not to directly offend people here, but the gist of it was: you are completely right. Even assuming the whole "no tax on credit" arguement is correct; more money, especially CASH to spend anywhere you choose, should have done the trick. I can't even believe people are trying to say it's better to get LESS from GS (who will turn around and sell it for more) than to sell it to a regular Joe for more than a trade in but less than it's "worth". The guy was an idiot.

[mike.m]

I had to edit my original post down in order not to directly offend people here, but the gist of it was: you are completely right. Even assuming the whole "no tax on credit" arguement is correct; more money, especially CASH to spend anywhere you choose, should have done the trick. I can't even believe people are trying to say it's better to get LESS from GS (who will turn around and sell it for more) than to sell it to a regular Joe for more than a trade in but less than it's "worth". The guy was an idiot.

My point is, its not better to take the credit. The point is, if the guy is smart enough to know that he won't get taxed on credit, then $170 isn't a better deal for him if HE WANTS TO SPEND THE MONEY ON NEW GAMES. Believe it or not there still are customers out there that might be loyal to the stores they shop at, even if it is a GS.

If I was the guy with the Wii, I'd have said no and asked for more. $10 more isn't going to make me sell to a stranger who walks up to me in the store.

[QiG]

Just found a copy of Rez at Gamestop. The cashiers were indirectly mocking me while ringing me up by talking to each other and saying "I got my copy for $10" and "Mine's in HD." Good for them, but I'd rather have a tangible copy of a game worth $40+ for $23

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

damn. too late to get my two cents in...

aw fuck it, it's the internet.

Any arguements against OP need to reconsider their hypothetical sittuations and look at numbers. He was in a gamestop with two employees that could vouch for the buyer (or provide the protection of an open environment with high pedestrian traffic should the deal go south), physical distance or significant ammounts of time were not an issue, and he was offered a better deal by the potential buyer -- $170 cash money as opposed to "$"160 (really just a number in a computer at a store).

OP makes the point that wii sports was not included. look at eBay prices (the only place to have a decent chance of finding a copy), and you'll see ~$50. And the point of the wii ("we") is communal gaming. The first thing everyone wants to do is play Bowling or Tennis when they see my Wii (giggidy). Wii Sports is part of the essential Wii experience

also, minus box and instructions (lowering the BUYER'S resale value substatially) the buyer's already out ~$60-$70 worth of resale value.

the arguement concerining tax -- i've always been taxed on credit at gamestop AND gamecrazy here in so-cal.

and $10? I'd take it. $10 is a lot of money, especially in the world of videogames. is it less than $20 or $30? of course. But those are hypothetical numbers. the guy might have come up $20 or $30, but that's up in the air. it's a DEFINATE that he could have been up by $10. So what's going to happen when the guy's hurting for gas money, or at work the day before payday? he's boned, that's what he is, because the local sandwich place doesn't take gamestop credit.

in coclusion, the internet is for arguing, bad spelling, and grammar errors, people too stubborn to take a deal on principle should be shot, thecheapestgamer doesn't really have an opinion and just enjoys being a conservative devil's advocate douche, and i understand the OP's blinding frustration at the people who take the seller's side with innane, imagined, unfounded reasoning.

btw, thecheapestgamer, this is NOTHING like the billg thread. he was a douchebag who took potshots at alzheimer's patients, refused a deal much better than any of us argueing the day after Black Friday could ever have dreamed of, and thought he was witty. He wasn't. Being sardonic for a three page rant just makes you sound like a prick.

Who said I wasn't a prick? I like to argue, I'll admit that. But, what I was saying to the OP was that the seller had a right to deny them the Wii because it was still THEIR system and they could do with it as they please. For whatever reason, they preferred the Gamestop credit over the OP's money. Was it stupid of them to not take $10 more than Gamestop? Obviously not in their eyes, since as many have said already, the OP could've been trying to hand them counterfeit cash or swindle them in some other way.

Now, before you go off and say that I'm calling the OP a con artist and a scammer, let it be said that I am NOT in any way, shape or form calling them such things.

However, the seller had their right to refuse the offer, perhaps hoping that the OP would've added some more value to sweeten the deal. But, they did not and instead came home and bitched and moaned about how 'stupid' the seller was and was hoping they would get a bunch of 'yeah you were right' responses.

The OP came off as bitter and dejected and almost every response in favor of them seems to trumpet the $10 more offer as some big deal, when it's not in the scheme of things. Now, if the offer were $50 more, I could see the OP having a kinipshit over someone rejecting that sort of offer. But, even I would've denied a meager $10 more offer for something I'm selling to Gamestop, mainly because I have a suspicious nature and would fear the above mentioned counterfeit cash scenario.

[daminion]

Credit does have it's good points, such as you aren't charged tax if you pay with credit. If he knew that then maybe that's why he declined your offer?

In Ohio you pay tax even on purchases made with credit.

[Friend of Sonic]

Yeah, if there's no tax charged on credit, then he was gonna get the same exact deal (assuming he's heavy into Gamestop shopping)
All he was doing was trying to get a better offer from you when he saw you had interest. He probably had a faint idea that he was getting a little ripped off from Gamestop. So, he wanted to get something a little bit better.
Maybe you're the idiot for not counter offering at least once to see what he would have had in mind. Did you have an extra ten in your wallet? If not, how was that going to go? Take out the 180 and get change from the GS employee? You should have tried 180. At least then he's getting a little something extra out of the deal and you're still getting a good deal.

[pulsar0510]

My point is, its not better to take the credit. The point is, if the guy is smart enough to know that he won't get taxed on credit, then $170 isn't a better deal for him if HE WANTS TO SPEND THE MONEY ON NEW GAMES. Believe it or not there still are customers out there that might be loyal to the stores they shop at, even if it is a GS.

If I was the guy with the Wii, I'd have said no and asked for more. $10 more isn't going to make me sell to a stranger who walks up to me in the store.
The point is taking less in credit than someone offers in cash is stupid.

[mike.m]

The point is taking less in credit than someone offers in cash is stupid.

Again, not if he has to pay tax with cash on games. Not knowing what state this took place in, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't do it for $10 more if I knew I had to pay tax on more games I wanted. Which is obviously what the guy with the Wii wanted since he was doing store credit.

[Green Card200]

I remember at my GS that there was a guy trading in his ps2 games and accessories. I needed a memory card so I offered him what GS was offering plus a couple bucks but he said no and said that I just had to give him what GS offered him. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you get a douche.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

See, that makes no sense, why wouldn't that person you offered to want MORE for their stuff than what GS was offering?

Some people just make you wonder.

[D_Icon]

Would GS employees get mad if a customer is trying to sell them something and I make them a better offer? Should they get mad?

[Green Card200]

Would GS employees get mad if a customer is trying to sell them something and I make them a better offer? Should they get mad?

You can get banned from a store for trying to do that.

[Green Card200]

See, that makes no sense, why wouldn't that person you offered to want MORE for their stuff than what GS was offering?

Some people just make you wonder.

I guess the fact that he was getting cash over credit was good enough or like I said before maybe it was because he wasn't a douche. Now I don't think anyone who expects more than what GS is giving is a douche but I would rather help someone out then trade in something to GS.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

True, but I've offered(when I offer)OVER the amount they were giving them and they didn't refuse it. Did you check the memory card since you bought it? I hope so, since if it's anything like the one my one buddy stupidly bought from Gamestop, then it may have been broken and that's why they were trading it in and didn't take MORE for it from you.

[camoor]

You think that's stupid?

I was trading on gametz - and I go to trade for a game that's not exactly in high demand. The guy with the listing says nope because he's strapped for cash at College so I offer him one dollar more then what I'd pay for a sealed copy from Amazon (I explained this as well, I used to be in college too after all..) - he says no dice and wants about 4 dollars more.

Needless to say I bought it from Amazon - I was just surprised that someone who was "strapped for cash" would not be willing to sell at higher then market price.

And CheapestGamer - it is his to do what he wants with true, but I still say he's stupid.

[TimPV3]

The guy might be a moron, but atleast he was smart enough to get a Wii in the first place.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I never said the guy wasn't stupid, but I know I would've been wanting more personally if it were me.

[Green Card200]

I got the memory card years ago and it worked fine. It was a Sony brand memory card.

[SlimJim0725]

first of all visc, the only reason i "insulted you" is because you were throwing a fit about someone turning down your lowball offer in comparison to gamestops. second, that is a great thing you do at your uncles farm, but to take one day off or even help him a little later if you really want the system that bad, i am sure you could do it and he would be fine. you could also give the money to a close friend and ask them to try and go up there for you, but since you are taking cheap shots, i am sure you really don't have too many close friends the way you act.

when i made this username i was into the show inuyasha a lot and i had forgot the email and password i used for my other username, so i just made an entirely new one. some random person on the internet making fun of my username is not going to hurt my feelings, so go ahead and say what you want. i actually ended up buying my wii from a friend after they used it 1 time for what they paid and that was that. i didn't try to lowball anyone for it and even if i had, i wouldn't get all upset and go crying to people on the internet that the random person i tried to screw over for a wii told me no.

i am sure most of the "smart people" on this forum defending you don't understand the concept of loyality to a store, building up store credit (sorry, the giftcard is NOT store credit and can be taxed), or even not wanting to wait 2 mins. for a stranger that is only offering $10 more for a system. if he felt like actually dealing with people, he would have probably sold it on craigslist for $30-$50 more than you offered him, even without the box or wii sports, but he obviously went a different route for a reason.

yes this is cheapassgamer and yes $10 is a little more, but again, the guy obviously had his reason for saying no and i dont see how that makes him an idiot. if anything accepting gamestop's offer was the only reason i can see this person being called one. i would have personally told both of you (gamestop and visc) no thanks with such low offers, since it is almost a slap in the face.

[naes]

GameStop offered him $170 after the bonus. You gave him the exact same offer as GameStop. Thanks.

[62t]

The main thing is taking $160 store credit or $170 from a stranger. personally I would have taken the $170, but you cant blame a guy for not wanting to trust a stranger.

[Sharp Katana]

if I really wanted it I would've offered him $180 cash or so. The only reason I could think of him turning down your offer would be counterfeit money, it's a bit risky opposed to getting credit from a store. And by the looks of it he's going to spend the credit at gamestop anyway, not saying you're a con but he was probably playing it safe.

[Visc]

GameStop offered him $170 after the bonus. You gave him the exact same offer as GameStop. Thanks.

No, actually it was $160 after the bonus, as the employee told me.

[naes]

No, actually it was $160 after the bonus, as the employee told me.
GameStop offers $160 for a Wii and with the $10 bonus, that's $170. I called my GameStop to double check this.

[Visc]

GameStop offers $160 for a Wii and with the $10 bonus, that's $170. I called my GameStop to double check this.

Then obviously he made a mistake, yet I'm sure some people here will tell me that's my fault too.

[naes]

Then obviously he made a mistake, yet I'm sure some people here will tell me that's my fault too.
So it can't be you that misheard the GameStop employee? Anyone reading this thread, call your GameStop and politely ask what is the trade in price of the Wii. They will quote you $160, as they did for me.

[Visc]

if I really wanted it I would've offered him $180 cash or so. And if he denies the offer $160 in gamestop gift credit lol. The only reason I could think of him turning down your offer would be counterfeit money, it's a bit risky opposed to getting credit from a store. And by the looks of it he's going to spend the credit at gamestop anyway, not saying you're a con but he was probably playing it safe.


If that really were the case he could have walked the twenty feet with me to the atm and watch me take it out, while asking the GS staff to hold the wii for him. Heck, I'm pretty sure they have those special pens to check for counterfeit money - granted I don't know if those are for $50 and above only.

Like I said though, I've gotten over yesterday's happenings, and I just wanted to vent here, yet I'm surprised that there are people here who think I shouldn't be allowed to do that, yet they have no issues when other people do it.

[Visc]

So it can't be you that misheard the GameStop employee? Anyone reading this thread, call your GameStop and politely ask what is the trade in price of the Wii. They will quote you $160, as they did for me.

Like I said earlier, when I asked him what they were offering for the system, he told me "we're giving him a total of $160 altogether". At the time he was still testing it, so for all I know he might not have put it in the computer yet so the deal didn't come up yet (I don't know if its standard to test first or put it in the computer first). Honetly, I don't know, but I'm willing to bet they don't get many wii systems brought in. The fact that the guy with the system even said he'd rather take 160 in credit would lead me to believe he didn't know about it either.

[Haggar]

I just wanted to vent here, yet I'm surprised that there are people here who think I shouldn't be allowed to do that, yet they have no issues when other people do it.

No one said you couldn't vent, but if you're afraid of getting different opinions, then don't post in a public forum.

[davo1224]

I'll have to agree with some of the other posters. You were innocent in your dealings but the whole situation comes off like a card-shark/pawn shop inner circle situation. He probably didn't trust it because you were allowed to do it in-store (as no other store will do this and he probably realized you're friends with the guys who work there) and because he probably thought you were trying to move him away from a safe place ("Come on, the ATM is only a few feet away").

On top of that, you only offered him $10 more. If he's gonna be cheated, most would rather be cheated by a business, not some random person.

[pulsar0510]

Again, not if he has to pay tax with cash on games. Not knowing what state this took place in, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't do it for $10 more if I knew I had to pay tax on more games I wanted. Which is obviously what the guy with the Wii wanted since he was doing store credit.
Explain that to all the folks who lost their $$ when their Sharper Image gift cards became useless. Cash in the hand trumps credit.

[Green Card200]

Explain that to all the folks who lost their $$ when their Sharper Image gift cards became useless. Cash in the hand trumps credit.

Good use of current events to prove your point.:applause:

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Explain that to all the folks who lost their $$ when their Sharper Image gift cards became useless. Cash in the hand trumps credit.

The only time cash is NOT good is when you LOSE it, whereas a credit slip/card/voucher CAN be replaced by searching your name and record in their system. With cash, it's a safe bet when it's gone, it's GONE for good.

And personally, I've never seen ANY Sharper Image stores, cept for maybe in Syracuse area when I was on business up that way, so those gift cards are of no worry to me. Plus, from what I remember, their crap was overpriced anyway.

[Unickuta]

Credit does have it's good points, such as you aren't charged tax if you pay with credit. If he knew that then maybe that's why he declined your offer?

Where do you live, you lucky bastard? :D

Explain that to all the folks who lost their $$ when their Sharper Image gift cards became useless. Cash in the hand trumps credit.

Explain that to...uhh...all of the folks in 1930 Germany...okay, yeah, you're right.

[Haggar]

Explain that to all the folks who lost their $$ when their Sharper Image gift cards became useless. Cash in the hand trumps credit.

Sharper Image has about 180 stores. Gamestop has over 5,000. That's like saying "OMGZ! McDonald's gift cardz are teh worthlass becuse in my town a hardware store closeded!"

Try again.

[davo1224]

Sharper Image also didn't have ANYTHING for cheap. They were a ripoff store that eventually got what they deserved.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I came into this thread, thinking it would be a nice counter to all of the "GameStop sucks" posts and threads. I was sadly mistaken. Most of what I would have liked to say has already been covered, so I'll pass on most of what I would have said. The reality is, your deal was obviously not that great, because the guy passed. I don't see how that makes him stupid. I might be a bit leery of some guy who just pops up in a store and offers to get money from his ATM. How do I know what kind of person you are or what you might try to pull?

[neocisco]

Sharper Image has about 180 stores. Gamestop has over 5,000. That's like saying "OMGZ! McDonald's gift cardz are teh worthlass becuse in my town a hardware store closeded!"

Try again.

You took his example too literally. In principle, it's accurate. Cash can be used anywhere. Credit can only be used at the store printed on the card. Cash trumps credit, always.

[bigdaddybruce44]

You took his example too literally. In principle, it's accurate. Cash can be used anywhere. Credit can only be used at the store printed on the card. Cash trumps credit, always.

Thing is, the other poster was using the example Sharper Image, as if every company goes into bankruptcy and is going to not honor their giftcards/credit. GameStop is not in financial trouble, so there is no reason to believe that credit won't be good for a long time (not to mention he may have planned on using that credit very soon, so the point would be rendered mute, anyway). So, even though cash is better than credit, the Sharper Image example is skewing the issue.

[neocisco]

The SI argument is valid but only to a point, I'll concede that. Credit, though, still limits you to that store, regardless of their financial situation. What if the guy got hungry an hour later or needed to buy gas? You're correct, in that if he was going to turn around and use it all it wouldn't matter; however, he didn't use it all, he just left the store. It really shouldn't matter much to any of us. When his stomach starts rumbling or his car sputters to a stop he'll be the one regretting it.:)

[Haggar]

Credit, though, still limits you to that store, regardless of their financial situation. What if the guy got hungry an hour later or needed to buy gas? You're correct, in that if he was going to turn around and use it all it wouldn't matter; however, he didn't use it all, he just left the store.

This is true. Someone should have followed the guy and blogged about his daily activities. Only after figuring out how long it took him to spend the credit, and on what, and if tax was charged, and during that time if he was hungry and/or required gas could we accurately determine if he was stupid or not.

[pulsar0510]

Sharper Image has about 180 stores. Gamestop has over 5,000. That's like saying "OMGZ! McDonald's gift cardz are teh worthlass becuse in my town a hardware store closeded!"

Try again.
That's all you got? They had less stores? What about about Jamesway? Or Caldor? Ames? How about any of the other national and regional chains that went belly up leaving people with worthless gift cards?
If you think you have a valid argument and you agree that credit beats cash there is no hope for you.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Nonetheless, GameStop is not in financial trouble, so there is no reason to compare credit there to places that fell on hard times. There is a difference.

[pulsar0510]

How do you know, are you the CFO of Gamestop? None of the other stores were in trouble until they were. Gamestop is fairly reviled by a large percentage of gamers on this board, so what's to stop that from broadening? To argue any place of business is above collapse is foolish at best.

[bigdaddybruce44]

How do you know, are you the CFO of Gamestop?It's called business news. You don't need to work for a company to know what shape it is in, especially a large one opened to public trading. GameStop's stock is over $45 a share, and they put together a record year financially in 2007. The stock is down currently, but that can easily be contributed to slow winter months for the industry. Their stock last year at this time was under $30, so they are in great shape.

None of the other stores were in trouble until they were. Rarely do businesses simply get into trouble. That would mean there was gross incompetence at some link in the chain. You can easily track the financial downfall of most companies. Find me the indicator that GS is in any way, shape, or form heading towards any issues.

Gamestop is fairly reviled by a large percentage of gamers on this board, so what's to stop that from broadening?Hate to break to you, but the attitudes of a message board geared towards "cheap gaming" does not dictate the market's attitude. GameStop has been the blunt of hatred on the internet for years. They still posted five billion dollars in revenue last year. The average gamer and non-gamers who need to buy gaming stuff shop at GameStop...and a lot.


To argue any place of business is above collapse is foolish at best.This is called a straw man argument. You're distorting what I said and trying to argue against a point I never made. I never said any business is above collapse. Businesses can be, though, fairly secured against such things. When you post record numbers the previous year and see your stock trading at $45 a share, you're in pretty good shape. The Sharper Image, on the other hand, posted huge losses the last couple of years.

[tsunami_bomb3r]

The arguement doesn't depend on whether or not Gamestop is in financial trouble or not (which i haven't seen any figures for/against, so i can't say for certain myself).

it's about the fact that you're handing your cash over to a store that will turn it into credit, essentially giving up your control of that cash or credit. it's like a fucked up ATM, except it's a very real possibility that one day you're going to walk back to that atm and NOBODY'S GOING TO BE THERE (or, if you will, a wile coyote-esque sillohette of smoke). Or they can tell you that they turned your credit into some other kind of credit, so it's not really credit anymore per se but a new kind of credit. Or the credit is subject to their approval/validation.

point being, the logical thing to do is to hold o to legal tender rather than store credit, especially considering that the ammount of legal tender offered was MORE than the offered credit.

[camoor]

There are alot of counterfeit scams out there (IE where scammers prowl parking lots looking to pawn off a bogus $100 bill in exchange for five legit twenties).

While I wouldn't expect to have it to happen when buying a Wii, can't blame a guy for being too careful...

[bigdaddybruce44]

There are alot of counterfeit scams out there (IE where scammers prowl parking lots looking to pawn off a bogus $100 bill in exchange for five legit twenties).

While I wouldn't expect to have it to happen when buying a Wii, can't blame a guy for being too careful...

Exactly. I think this is the point everyone is overlooking. You're all arguing about the virtues of cash, as if this is an argument of getting credit from GameStop or getting cash from another legitimate source. How does the guy trading in the Wii know that the TC was a decent person? He has absolutely no idea at all. It was much, much, much safer for him to get his $160 in credit from GS and walk away. Unlike some random guy off the streets, GS is a legitimate company. The way some of you are talking, you're likening it to some three-card monte dealer on a city street corner.

Are there mobs of people out there looking to scam or rob people? Obviously not, but why exactly should he have risked it?

[Demolition Man]

How do you know, are you the CFO of Gamestop? None of the other stores were in trouble until they were. Gamestop is fairly reviled by a large percentage of gamers on this board, so what's to stop that from broadening? To argue any place of business is above collapse is foolish at best.

CAG might be an large online community... but we are still an minority in the world of retail customers.

[zedarkness]

Im not calling the guy an idiot at all but I would rather save $10 and be safe. If it was 180 or more on the other hand....

[pulsar0510]

Gamestop gives you much more on credit than they will pay outright in cash for one reason: it's worth less. That's why Gamestop does it.
The safety argument is almost as silly: what Gamestop are you going to that has grifters and bandits running amok?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Gamestop gives you much more on credit than they will pay outright in cash for one reason: it's worth less. That's why Gamestop does it.This simply doesn't make any sense...at all. Worthless entails it has...no worth. Amazingly enough, people have take GameStop credit and purchased goods at a GameStop with it. Unless GameStop had originally planned on giving away that merchandise, the credit was not worthless.


The safety argument is almost as silly: what Gamestop are you going to that has grifters and bandits running amok?Again...another straw man argument. That's fine. As I said before, how does the guy know who the TC was? He has no clue. Why should he chance it for another $10 in cash? Obviously, having cash was not that important to him. Even though he didn't use the credit right then and there, he more than likely planned on using it eventually. So, anyone calling him stupid for making a decision that clearly was a good one for him is being silly.

[Troopa]

IPlus, the guy probably thought you might try to pass him some fake bills or something, which is why perhaps he denied your offer.
That's probably the best guess at what happened. Otherwise there's really no good reason to turn down an extra $10 and help someone out in the process (unless that no-tax credit thing is true).

That doesn't make him an idiot, though. We shouldn't jump to silly conclusions. And I agree with what others said -- an extra $10 is not really that big of a deal. If the guy really wanted to maximize his profit, he would have sold it on eBay instead of trading it in.

[naes]

But the whole $10 extra thing is bogus. GameStop offered him $170. The trade in price was $160 and with the bonus going on the trade in was $170.

[ejgarc]

This simply doesn't make any sense...at all. Worthless entails it has...no worth. Amazingly enough, people have take GameStop credit and purchased goods at a GameStop with it. Unless GameStop had originally planned on giving away that merchandise, the credit was not worthless.
I think you have misunderstood "worthless" and "worth less." I do not believe that he was saying that it had no worth, but rather that the reason gamestop gives store credit is because it is worth less than cash.

[Visc]

This simply doesn't make any sense...at all. Worthless entails it has...no worth. Amazingly enough, people have take GameStop credit and purchased goods at a GameStop with it. Unless GameStop had originally planned on giving away that merchandise, the credit was not worthless.

He didn't say it was worthless, he said it was worth less, holding less value, not no value. Hence the space in the words.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Ah, my bad, if that was the case and simply not a typo. Well, if you want to buy video games, it isn't worth less, either, as long as GameStop has what you want to buy. It's worth the same as cash. If you want to buy a $60 game, you'll either pay $60 cash or $60 in credit. The only way it is worth less is if the person doesn't have use for GameStop credit. But in that case, he shouldn't have taken to th GS, anyway.

[pulsar0510]

I can't even believe that had to be explained.
As was said in the initial post: the store was cool with him doing the deal. The man with the Wii had the kneejerk reaction that somehow he was losing by selling it to a person rather than the store. I have seen it happen in Gamestop before.Cons are generally set up in advance, so unless he thought the store was in on it he had nothing to lose to wait 5 minutes for a trip to the ATM. The chances of it being some kind of set up for a mugging are about as likely....as Gamestop going out of business before he coudl redeem the credit.
He didn't think it through and therefore is an idiot. Well within his right to be so, but no less idiotic.

[tsunami_bomb3r]

Ah, my bad, if that was the case and simply not a typo. Well, if you want to buy video games, it isn't worth less, either, as long as GameStop has what you want to buy. It's worth the same as cash. If you want to buy a $60 game, you'll either pay $60 cash or $60 in credit. The only way it is worth less is if the person doesn't have use for GameStop credit. But in that case, he shouldn't have taken to th GS, anyway.
or you take your $60 cash over to the Target/eBay/local CL seller who has the game for $40 and treat youself to a nice lunch for not being an idiot and tying your money up with an overpriced retail store.

[bigdaddybruce44]

The chances of it being some kind of set up for a mugging are about as likely....as Gamestop going out of business before he coudl redeem the credit.People get mugged and conned everyday. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere or the perfect suburban setting, that is the reality. The chances of GameStop going out of business within, say, the next year are zero. Flatout. You can make up probabilities all you want, but that it is the reality. A company that had a record year financially the year before is not going to close up completely in the next year. So, he will be able to redeem the credit, unless he simply doesn't buy much video game related stuff. And in that case, he's an idiot for trading it to GameStop...period.

He didn't think it through and therefore is an idiot. Well within his right to be so, but no less idiotic.He didn't have much time to think it through. He probably didn't want to stand there for ten minutes like a moron and think about it. Some people have lives to lead. He thought about for a moment, probably took into the consideration the scum that is out there, and figured $10 is not the end of the world.

[bigdaddybruce44]

And, of course, this has turned into another "let's bitch about GameStop" thread, because God forbid we go a day without doing some of that, kids.

[io]

Your not supposed to so that be your fault for not fighting it, though I couldn't tell you if this varies by state

It is definitely a state thing - there's no "your not supposed to" in general terms. I've never NOT paid tax when I've bought stuff out of state (here in OR there is no sales tax so I don't even think about it most of the time). But on those rare times when I've bought things with my Edge card or Blockbuster value card (both store credit from trade-ins) I have most definitely paid sales tax - in GA, MD, VA, and a few other places at least.

[davo1224]

I can't even believe that had to be explained.
As was said in the initial post: the store was cool with him doing the deal. The man with the Wii had the kneejerk reaction that somehow he was losing by selling it to a person rather than the store. I have seen it happen in Gamestop before.Cons are generally set up in advance, so unless he thought the store was in on it he had nothing to lose to wait 5 minutes for a trip to the ATM. The chances of it being some kind of set up for a mugging are about as likely....as Gamestop going out of business before he coudl redeem the credit.
He didn't think it through and therefore is an idiot. Well within his right to be so, but no less idiotic.

And how does this situation NOT look like a three card monte or pawn shop inner circle setup? Stores don't normally let customers haggle and solicit inside the premises or even outside of it without a ban/arrest so obviously he knew that they were friendly. Not only that but then he had the ATM story.

As it is, the real fool was the OP for offering $170 for some random bloke's system, especially one brought into Gamestop.

[mrlokievil]

Where were you that you could get $170 out of an Atm? I've only ever been able to get 20s out of them. Anyway, your offer wasn't that good and I probably would have taken the credit too if I was planning on buying more games. Maybe he thought you were a scalper and were going to try and flip it on ebay or something.

Obviously you aren't that close with the employees that work at the store or you would already have a Wii. They would hold one for you.

[bigdaddybruce44]

And how does this situation NOT look like a three card monte or pawn shop inner circle setup? Stores don't normally let customers haggle and solicit inside the premises or even outside of it without a ban/arrest so obviously he knew that they were friendly. Not only that but then he had the ATM story.

As it is, the real fool was the OP for offering $170 for some random bloke's system, especially one brought into Gamestop.

Where were you that you could get $170 out of an Atm? I've only ever been able to get 20s out of them. Anyway, your offer wasn't that good and I probably would have taken the credit too if I was planning on buying more games. Maybe he thought you were a scalper and were going to try and flip it on ebay or something.

Obviously you aren't that close with the employees that work at the store or you would already have a Wii. They would hold one for you.

Ineed, on both accounts.

[Visc]

Where were you that you could get $170 out of an Atm? I've only ever been able to get 20s out of them. Anyway, your offer wasn't that good and I probably would have taken the credit too if I was planning on buying more games. Maybe he thought you were a scalper and were going to try and flip it on ebay or something.

Obviously you aren't that close with the employees that work at the store or you would already have a Wii. They would hold one for you.


I had a ten in my wallet, so that answers that question. As to the employess, I've no intention of asking them to hold a system for me. Buying leftover penny guides and getting the occasional abondoned preorder items are one thing, but I'm not going to ask them to hold a system in high demand and potentially get yelled at by someone else who wants one, or get a complaint levied on them. They do me enough favors as it is.

[Genocidal]

In Ohio you pay tax even on purchases made with credit.No, you don't. As long as the full purchase is made with credit there's no sales tax.

[mrlokievil]

I had a ten in my wallet, so that answers that question. As to the employess, I've no intention of asking them to hold a system for me. Buying leftover penny guides and getting the occasional abondoned preorder items are one thing, but I'm not going to ask them to hold a system in high demand and potentially get yelled at by someone else who wants one, or get a complaint levied on them. They do me enough favors as it is.

I was just kidding about the atm but you could have offered $180. Having them hold one system is not a big deal. My local gamestop did it for me at launch and I don't feel bad in the least. I give a lot of business to that gamestop and they repay me with stuff like that. Besides most of the people I have seen buy a wii at gamestops don't even buy a game with it. If you really want a Wii and a close enough to the employees that they would do it for you, go for it. It's not like the Wii is a life or death item. Noone is going to die if they hold one for you.

[Haggar]

I'm not going to ask them to hold a system in high demand and potentially get yelled at by someone else who wants one, or get a complaint levied on them. They do me enough favors as it is.

. . .

But in your first post you say your Wii has been "backordered" for 4 months.

[Visc]

. . .

But in your first post you say your Wii has been "backordered" for 4 months.

Yeah. Not through GS though.

[gareman]

I haven't read this massive thread.

the wii-trader is not an idiot. Sell to some random or take 10 bucks less and safely do it with GS. No tax on credit. Could have massive credit and wants a 360 or something. I could see myself saying no, because I want a 360 or something, and I know that when I get cash and have more options I tend to not buy what I was intending, and more often than not, regret it.

[SlimJim0725]

It is definitely a state thing - there's no "your not supposed to" in general terms. I've never NOT paid tax when I've bought stuff out of state (here in OR there is no sales tax so I don't even think about it most of the time). But on those rare times when I've bought things with my Edge card or Blockbuster value card (both store credit from trade-ins) I have most definitely paid sales tax - in GA, MD, VA, and a few other places at least.

i am going to call you out on the sales tax on STORE CREDIT in va. i can not say for sure about the entire state, but i have about 7 gamestops within driving distance of me and not a single one has ever charged me tax on store credit. there is a difference between the credit they give you for a trade in and the money you put down on a reserve. the money you put on a reserve still has tax on it.

also, to the person saying that the cash was better because he "might get hungry," i am sorry to say this, but that statement means nothing. he obviously had to have some money to first of all, buy a wii and second not take the time or effort to list it on craigslist or ebay since he could have easily made a lot more off of the system alone. you think $10 means that much to this person if he is doing that? if you still do after what i just said, than there is no chance of me getting through to you.

another thing about the people saying "but it is still $10 more in cash which is good anywhere." he obviously had plans on using the money at gamestop ahead of time, so why would "cash being good anywhere" have anything to do with this? sure, the guy may be a bit of a jerk for saying no at worst, but he is by no means an idiot just for turning down $10 that he would have had to wait for. he may have had somewhere to be and really didn't have 2-5 mins. to wait for this guy, so even if he would have been willing to do it on a normal day, it is possible he said no just because of having something other to do.

[Rollett]

I work at GS and i tend to agree with the customer... a FEW times we have had some one offer cash.. but it was normaly ALOT more then what we offered.. and you know we are OK with that as long as they do it out side our store...

Some one a month ago or so was selling Persona 3 and we buy it for like.. oh 10 bux i think.. go offered him 40$ for it.. and he was like omg Sure!... and i dont blame him lol.

He came back in our store with his 40$ and bough ilke 60$ worth of stuff.....

[strongpimphand]

ever occured that the person doesn't like strangers?????

i've had people in my house like "i'll pay you XXXX for *insert item*" and i'll easily tell them NO.

10 dollars more in cash than credit sounds great in theory....but honestly, sometimes its better to deal with what you know then to stray away and potentially make a mistake. it was his wii, his product, and honestly there could be hidden elements in the decision (i'm not sure if this has been brought up, but it could have been race related, gender related, other biases, or simply afraid of being okie doked)

[Kapwanil]

Just to play devil's advocate with the Wii Returner...

1) Perhaps he knew his Wii was nice and busted and had no difficulties in selling it to GS nice and broken as opposed to some other gamer. ;)

2) If he was in an extreme rush and needed to get of there as fast as possible. Waiting for someone to hit an ATM can be fast as all get-out but others...oh lord, no.


Otherwise...eh, depends on the person. Personally I probably would have traded it in anyway unless the offer was for $190 or so, mostly because it would be a happy medium between what EB/GS is offering and what they would sell it for.

Well, if I was returning it in-store, anyway. If I had a Wii, box and Wii Play or not, I could easily sell it to friends right now for $220, easy. And on-campus? Lord, that's $240 without an issue, and I'm still under other offers on campus by a good $60 to $85. ;)

[pulsar0510]

People get mugged and conned everyday. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere or the perfect suburban setting, that is the reality. The chances of GameStop going out of business within, say, the next year are zero. Flatout. You can make up probabilities all you want, but that it is the reality. A company that had a record year financially the year before is not going to close up completely in the next year. So, he will be able to redeem the credit, unless he simply doesn't buy much video game related stuff. And in that case, he's an idiot for trading it to GameStop...period.

He didn't have much time to think it through. He probably didn't want to stand there for ten minutes like a moron and think about it. Some people have lives to lead. He thought about for a moment, probably took into the consideration the scum that is out there, and figured $10 is not the end of the world.
The odds of the average person walking in to Gamestop and being the victim of an elaborate robbery are almost nonexistant. You have to know that.

[youruglyclone]

this story is probably relevant to this thread. I was at a GS the other day, someone came in and said his son asked him to pick something up for the DS. He said the game his kid wanted was "Assassin's Creed" and he wanted to know if there was sex and violence in it. Needless to say when he saw the descriptor he was visibly shocked. At which I kinda just laughed and asked "what did you think an assassin do?" I'll give him this though, at least he care about what his kid played.

[bigdaddybruce44]

The odds of the average person walking in to Gamestop and being the victim of an elaborate robbery are almost nonexistant. You have to know that.

And the odds of a company like GameStop, who enjoyed the best year in 2007, closing down and their credit becoming useless is basically zero. You have to know this. And yet, you just kept defending the idea in this topic.

Also, despite what you seem to think is a complete impossibility, people other than myself have brought up the same issue in this thread. Actually, I wasn't even the first one to mention it. I am not alone. We're all idiots, though, I assume, and you're the smart one. I hate to break to you, but guess what went through the mind of every, single person who ever got taken in a scam? Oh, that can't happen. That's impossible. It's not impossible, though. And for $10 (or not) and credit, this guy decided he would deal with the devil he knows rather than someone he doesn't. And as someone else said, the whole thing would probably look fishy to the average Joe just walking into a GameStop. It's not everyday you walk into a store and have some complete stranger offer to buy your possessions.

[mykevermin]

What's the "safety" argument here?

"You want to buy it off me? I'll wait here for 30 minutes - go and get the money and we'll do the trade in the store. If you aren't back in 30, I'm trading it into GS."

That is assuming they have time to wait for 30 minutes - but "safety" is such a silly argument, really.

[bigdaddybruce44]

That is assuming they have time to wait for 30 minutes - but "safety" is such a silly argument, really.

And so is "Just look at what happened with the Sharper Image," and yet, that seems to have gained some validity among a few posters.

I think the only thing people were bringing up were possibilities. If anyone wants to actually argue that it is impossible to get scammed in this world, that's what I find silly. How exactly does this guy know everything is on the up and up? He doesn't. So, he passed. That doesn't make him an idiot.

[LegendK7ll3r]

He's not stupid, if someone offered me only $10 more, I wouldn't take it either. If you wanted it so bad, you should have offered more.. who cares if it doesn't come with Wii Sports or a box? That doesn't downgrade the value that much.

Hell, if some stranger came upto me in the store as I was trying to sell something for credit, you know, something I wanted, otherwise I wouldn't be there to trade the stuff in to begin with (;)), I wouldn't trust them, and certainly wouldn't do business with them.

[Zhanmadao]

I nominate this thread with the most retarded posters of the YEAR!!!!!!!


YEAH!

[bigdaddybruce44]

I nominate this thread with the most retarded posters of the YEAR!!!!!!!


YEAH!

Thanks!

Wait...what?

[Rig]

So you'd prefer not to get the most for your system then, good to know.

If he were wanting the most for his system, he wouldn't have taken your offer either.

He would've went to eBay.

I can see where the guy is coming from, if you would have to leave the store to do the transaction. Even if the store employee could see you guys while outside, that wouldn't stop somebody from pulling a knife or a gun.

If it was going to be cash passed in the store, then maybe he should have taken your offer.

[pulsar0510]

And the odds of a company like GameStop, who enjoyed the best year in 2007, closing down and their credit becoming useless is basically zero. You have to know this. And yet, you just kept defending the idea in this topic.

Also, despite what you seem to think is a complete impossibility, people other than myself have brought up the same issue in this thread. Actually, I wasn't even the first one to mention it. I am not alone. We're all idiots, though, I assume, and you're the smart one. I hate to break to you, but guess what went through the mind of every, single person who ever got taken in a scam? Oh, that can't happen. That's impossible. It's not impossible, though. And for $10 (or not) and credit, this guy decided he would deal with the devil he knows rather than someone he doesn't. And as someone else said, the whole thing would probably look fishy to the average Joe just walking into a GameStop. It's not everyday you walk into a store and have some complete stranger offer to buy your possessions.
To mention the possiblity of business collapse in the face of the argument that credit at a store is somehow an infallable resource is hardly defending it, at least not in the context you're trying to place it. Stores, corporations, dog kennels all go out of business suddenly. Some right after posting record profits. I fully concede that it's unlikely; I do not concede it's impossible.
I also concede that there is a chance of being robbed where ever you are, but as I have said: the chances are almost non-existant at your local Gamestop. If you want to celebrate someone who didn't even entertain the possibility of making his losses a little less painful by taking a chance and (*horror*) actually dealing with another human being, go right ahead. You have the same rights that guy did.

[garfep]

I can't believe this thread has devolved into this much arguing. I really doubt that the OP typed his post while banging on the keyboard and fuming with anger. It was just meant to be a funny/interesting story since someone turned down more money in favor of less money. I'm sure that if any of you walked up to a man on the street and offered him a twenty dollar bill in exchange for a ten dollar bill, you'd consider it strange if he declined and probably tell it as a funny story. That's all the OP was trying to do and I'm not sure why everyone is getting so worked up over it.

[Krohboy]

I personally wouldn't have taken it either. Thats because $10 extra is not worth the extra hassle to me.

[bigdaddybruce44]

To mention the possiblity of business collapse in the face of the argument that credit at a store is somehow an infallable resource is hardly defending it, at least not in the context you're trying to place it. Stores, corporations, dog kennels all go out of business suddenly. Some right after posting record profits. I fully concede that it's unlikely; I do not concede it's impossible. Please provide an example of a corporation with 5000 stores in over a dozen countries that went under within a year of posting their best financial year. It's not only unlikely that GameStop will close anytime soon, it is virtually impossible. Could it happen? Of course. But the possibility of that happening is extremely slim. The possibility of getting scammed is not. Again, people get scammed and ripped off every day.

I also concede that there is a chance of being robbed where ever you are, but as I have said: the chances are almost non-existant at your local Gamestop. If you want to celebrate someone who didn't even entertain the possibility of making his losses a little less painful by taking a chance and (*horror*) actually dealing with another human being, go right ahead. You have the same rights that guy did.Again, a straw man argument. That's three in this topic. I don't know how I "celebrated" anything he did. I said he wasn't an idiot for not taking the TC's deal. Honestly, I think he was a bit silly for selling it for $160 in credit. $170 in cash wasn't too impressive, either. He could easily gotten more for it by selling it to a friend or family member. I'm sure he could of have found someone he knew that would pay $200 for a Wii. Then, again, maybe he couldn't, and that is why he broke down and brought to it to GameStop. Who knows?

Again, though, when it comes to the $160 (or $170) in credit or the $170 cash, I don't see one makes him an idiot and the other doesn't. Either is a shit deal for him.

EDIT: Also, how exactly does dealing with other people come into the equation? Do robots man the counters at your local GameStop stores? Either way, you have to deal with another person. Difference is, you know the person behind the store counter is not trying to do anything fishy.

[Zhanmadao]

you're all arguing over 10 dollars, seriously lol

and derailing this thread into a enconomic / buisness math discussion


EDIT: / paranoia discussion aswell (if he robbed you after you left ... LOL )

[bigdaddybruce44]

you're all arguing over 10 dollars, seriously lol In all fairness, the discussion is not over the $10, which, if the one poster is right, is a non-issue, because the actual base value is $160. So, the person would have gotten $170 either way. The real issue is cash versus store credit. Though I don't think it is an issue, it could still be seen as a bigger problem than a $10 difference.

and derailing this thread into a enconomic / buisness math discussion
Well, again, with where the topic went, this is very relevant. If a store goes out of business or files for bankruptcy and refuses to recognize credit/gift cards, you'd be screwed.

EDIT: / paranoia discussion aswell (if he robbed you after you left ... LOL )Again, I don't see how this is "paranoia." It's just common precaution. Would you call it paranoia to lock your door at night? Obviously not, despite the fact that someone actually trying to open your door is extremely slim.

[magiic]

I honestly cannot believe this thread is still truckin'

[Visc]

I honestly cannot believe this thread is still truckin'

In all honesty, neither can I. I wasn't expecting it to reach this many posts when I made it, or to get to the point its at now.

[pulsar0510]

Please provide an example of a corporation with 5000 stores in over a dozen countries that went under within a year of posting their best financial year. It's not only unlikely that GameStop will close anytime soon, it is virtually impossible. Could it happen? Of course. But the possibility of that happening is extremely slim. The possibility of getting scammed is not. Again, people get scammed and ripped off every day.

Again, a straw man argument. That's three in this topic. I don't know how I "celebrated" anything he did. I said he wasn't an idiot for not taking the TC's deal. Honestly, I think he was a bit silly for selling it for $160 in credit. $170 in cash wasn't too impressive, either. He could easily gotten more for it by selling it to a friend or family member. I'm sure he could of have found someone he knew that would pay $200 for a Wii. Then, again, maybe he couldn't, and that is why he broke down and brought to it to GameStop. Who knows?

Again, though, when it comes to the $160 (or $170) in credit or the $170 cash, I don't see one makes him an idiot and the other doesn't. Either is a shit deal for him.

EDIT: Also, how exactly does dealing with other people come into the equation? Do robots man the counters at your local GameStop stores? Either way, you have to deal with another person. Difference is, you know the person behind the store counter is not trying to do anything fishy.
Please tell me the last time someone went in to Gamestop and were conned out of their Wii or their money by a confidence man.
As soon as your done with that please read up on what "straw man" argument actually means. The only one using it seems to be you.
And please, for the love of god, it's should HAVE not should OF.

[Zhanmadao]

In all fairness, the discussion is not over the $10, which, if the one poster is right, is a non-issue, because the actual base value is $160. So, the person would have gotten $170 either way. The real issue is cash versus store credit. Though I don't think it is an issue, it could still be seen as a bigger problem than a $10 difference.

Well, again, with where the topic went, this is very relevant. If a store goes out of business or files for bankruptcy and refuses to recognize credit/gift cards, you'd be screwed.

Again, I don't see how this is "paranoia." It's just common precaution. Would you call it paranoia to lock your door at night? Obviously not, despite the fact that someone actually trying to open your door is extremely slim.

If that's common precaution I honestly think you're worrying too much lol but hey either way I still think the huge amount of idiots that's posting are quite hilarious

"what if he robs you of your 160 when you leave the store" LOL

putting paranoid thoughts against the idea of a customer paying you 10 dollars extra for a wii console with missing contents is retarded enough to make myself think have you guys learned certain common sense

[CocheseUGA]

I can't believe there are this many dumb people on here.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Please tell me the last time someone went in to Gamestop and were conned out of their Wii or their money by a confidence man.

That's a just a childish attempt to avoid doing what I asked you to do, namely telling me about a corporation that closed its door within a year of posting record financial numbers. It is quite easy to look up information on businesses. I don't exactly have access to every police blotter throughout the country or world. Also, narrowing it to one store is just silly. Obviously, there aren't hundreds of people who get conned at a GameStop. That doesn't mean you should just act like it can't happen or never will happen.

As soon as your done with that please read up on what "straw man" argument actually means. The only one using it seems to be you.

I studied philosophy for four years, so I know what a straw man argument is. It is a distortion of a person's actual stance. That's all you have done throughout this topic. You have either twisted things I said or simply made up stuff, in order to make your own arguments look better.

And please, for the love of god, it's should HAVE not should OF.

Again, another childish attempt to divert attention away from the actual discussion. Do you really feel a need to correct grammar? Well, I guess, when you've been argued under the table, that's all you really have to resort to.

[bigdaddybruce44]

putting paranoid thoughts against the idea of a customer paying you 10 dollars extra for a wii console with missing contents is retarded enough to make myself think have you guys learned certain common senseYes, the numerous people who said that the guy was better off taking the credit...we're all retarded and lack common sense. No one in the history of the world has ever been robbed or conned...ever...

[Zhanmadao]

Yes, the numerous people who said that the guy was better off taking the credit...we're all retarded and lack common sense. No one in the history of the world has ever been robbed or conned...ever...

Are you bored? You can help me really, Like to help me write my 5 page report about Mid Eastern Geography? I'm assuming you do have alot of time on your hand to analyze everyone's post and giving them a quite accurate response to every single post "intelligently" (could've been mispelled I'm quite stupid sorry :)"

[camoor]

Please tell me the last time someone went in to Gamestop and were conned out of their Wii or their money by a confidence man.
As soon as your done with that please read up on what "straw man" argument actually means. The only one using it seems to be you.
And please, for the love of god, it's should HAVE not should OF.

It happened the other day to a poster (slidecage I think...)

The salesman told the customer that the machine was down, but he could accept cash (and gave no receipt). When the customer tried to return the game because it didn't work, there was no record of it in the computer and he was told the actual price was actually a few bucks less then what he paid.

IE - the employee pocketed the cash

[camoor]

If he was in an extreme rush and needed to get of there as fast as possible. Waiting for someone to hit an ATM can be fast as all get-out but others...oh lord, no.

Great point.

[Blinkman987]

wow, I didn't know that some people on these boards have such little common sense that they dont realize $170 in cash is better than 160 in credit.

That's true, but on the same note, the OP made a shitty, greedy offer and got turned down. Stupid bangs into stupid. Stupid wins.

[yukine]

Seems like a whole lot of bitching over something so trivial.

He didn't want your money, big fucking deal. Get over it.

[dboy81]

As soon as your done with that please read up on what "straw man" argument actually means. The only one using it seems to be you.
And please, for the love of god, it's should HAVE not should OF.

You used the wrong form of "your." Should be "you're" which is a contraction for "you are."

Anyhoooo, I think if the OP simply would not have called the Wii owner a "moron," or led off with all the "dumber than Gamestop employees" stuff or recounted their little coffee clatch when the Gamestop breakfast club piled on the Wii owner, calling him a "jackass" and such, this thread would have lasted about 10 replies, most of which would have agreed with the OP.

Some people would have taken the deal, some would not have. OP, I see your point but you immediately put everyone who would not have taken your deal for whatever reasons on the defensive by using the derogatory terms and characterizations.

[pulsar0510]

That's a just a childish attempt to avoid doing what I asked you to do, namely telling me about a corporation that closed its door within a year of posting record financial numbers. It is quite easy to look up information on businesses. I don't exactly have access to every police blotter throughout the country or world. Also, narrowing it to one store is just silly. Obviously, there aren't hundreds of people who get conned at a GameStop. That doesn't mean you should just act like it can't happen or never will happen.



I studied philosophy for four years, so I know what a straw man argument is. It is a distortion of a person's actual stance. That's all you have done throughout this topic. You have either twisted things I said or simply made up stuff, in order to make your own arguments look better.



Again, another childish attempt to divert attention away from the actual discussion. Do you really feel a need to correct grammar? Well, I guess, when you've been argued under the table, that's all you really have to resort to.
:lol:
While I am sure you are a big star on the interweb, you aren't impressing me.
The topic was whether it was thought that the man in the presented scenario was an idiot. In my opinion he was and the facts bear that out:
Man enters Gamestop to trade in Wii: Idiot move number one(IMO).
Man is offered cash bonus by customer for Wii. He refuses without further negotiation: Idiot move number 2(IMO).
Whether you agree with my assesmet or not the fact remains that cash is better than credit. Gamestops P&L statement can't overcome that simple fact.
I haven't been diverting anything nor made anything up. I merely presented a hypothetical situation which you appear to have taken personally. I also haven't taken your posts apart line by line (read:taken out of context) and selectively replied to what you have said, one of the hallmarks of the straw man argument. Your sanctimonius tone was the only reason I pointed out you grammatical error.

[youbastards]

..., it sucks that someone can be as stupid as that customer.


Maybe the system wasn't working and he'd rather screw over Gamestop than screw over some unsuspecting guy that obviously hangs out at Gamestop too much....

Maybe the guy wanted to use the credit towards something specific and he knew that much cash would burn a hole in his pocket...

Maybe there are other reasons why someone makes a decision that aren't directly obvious to you...

[ejgarc]

It happened the other day to a poster (slidecage I think...)

The salesman told the customer that the machine was down, but he could accept cash (and gave no receipt). When the customer tried to return the game because it didn't work, there was no record of it in the computer and he was told the actual price was actually a few bucks less then what he paid.

IE - the employee pocketed the cash
I think that was at a gamecrazy though and not a gamestop.

[Rollett]

I honestly cannot believe this thread is still truckin'

I was just thinking the same thing today.:cold:

[punkmaggit]

So, just to sum the thread up..

Visc [-( doesn't get a Wii with no controllers or games for $170. Gamestop :whee: gives the guy $160 for it and he takes it.

11 pages of: "IT'S 10 DOLLARS!!!1oneonesix" :argue:

Granted, this guy was a little off for not taking the extra cash, but chances are that he was a little intimidated by your offer, especially since he doesn't know who you are or what you're going to do with the console (doesn't matter, I know). He specifically went to the Gamestop to trade it in which means that he knows of Gamestop and felt comfortable in there.

[naes]

Why is everyone completely missing the fact that GameStop gave him $170 and not $160?

[CocheseUGA]

Why is everyone completely missing the fact that GameStop gave him $170 and not $160?

Why do you keep bringing it up? There is no proof that the employee didn't offer that amount. The price may have changed, the employee may not have offered the additional money, or could have subtracted an amount for the condition.

Stop trying to be a detective, when it's clearly not that important.

[Haggar]

How do you know, are you the CFO of Gamestop? None of the other stores were in trouble until they were. Gamestop is fairly reviled by a large percentage of gamers on this board, so what's to stop that from broadening? To argue any place of business is above collapse is foolish at best.

True. More proof of Gamestop going out of business in the next 12 months:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/gamestops-sales-soar-to-nearly-71-billion-in-2007/?biz=

[CocheseUGA]

True. More proof of Gamestop going out of business in the next 12 months:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/gamestops-sales-soar-to-nearly-71-billion-in-2007/?biz=


And their stock price still went down 4%.


And Bear Stearns was trading for $159 in the last year.

Oldsmobile disappeared after 100 years of selling automobiles.

Point being, any business, no matter how big, could be gone tomorrow.

[niceguyshawne]

I can't believe this is stil going on.

[naes]

Why do you keep bringing it up? There is no proof that the employee didn't offer that amount. The price may have changed, the employee may not have offered the additional money, or could have subtracted an amount for the condition.

Stop trying to be a detective, when it's clearly not that important.
It's simple. First off, why would the price of a trade in rise? I see no reason for GameStop to do that, especially in such a short period. We've already established earlier in the thread that there was a $10 extra trade in for systems, so that takes the base trade in of $160 to $170. If the system was in bad condition, Visc would not have bought it.

Think about it. Why would he want to buy a damaged system? And I do find it important. If GameStop offers you $170 credit and a random stranger offers you $170 cash, and you plan on spending it at GameStop, what are you going to take? With the $10 extra the guy was getting the same amount as the offer, making Visc's offer look non-appealing to him, which explains why he didn't sell it to Visc.

Alright, let's assume that GameStop did only quote him $160 at the moment. Most GameStops have fliers of all the promos going on, so the customer would have clearly seen that he would have gotten an extra $10, which is why he took a moment pause to answer. He saw a flier in the store for the promo

[srad1968]

I say this over an incident at my local, and preferred, gamestop today.

As I walked in today, I say a wii system sitting on the front counter. It turns out someone was trading one in as I got there. Now, the emplyees at this GS know me quite well, we're good friends, they know my wii has been backordered 4 months now, so I asked them what they offered in trade-in credit, $160, and asked if they would mind if I counter-offered the guy, which they were fine with.

So I walked over to the gentlemen and politely offered to man $170 cash direct from the nearby ATM for the system, which was also missing its box and lacked Wii Sports when he brought it in. He thought for a moment and said:
"Nah. I'd rather get the $160 in credit."

I said ok, thanks anyways, but inside I was fuming at the stupidity of this moron. After he left, even the employees were calling him a moron, jackass, etc.

On the bright side though, they game me a Simon Belmont figuring and a Silent Hill Experience while I was there. So it wasn't a total loss I guess, but still, it sucks that someone can be as stupid as that customer.

Pretty harsh dude, just because someone chooses not to do business with you doesn't mean they are stupid. Besides, your offer was not exactly generous. You were trying to buy it for a little as possible. A generous offer would have been to offer him what he paid for it. Since you can't find one anywhere that would be worth it even without Wii Sports and the box. You don't need the box, and GS sells Wii Sports used for $9.99.

[srad1968]

True. More proof of Gamestop going out of business in the next 12 months:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/gamestops-sales-soar-to-nearly-71-billion-in-2007/?biz=


Tell you what... look me up in a year and tell me that again.

[tex1ntux]

Tell you what... look me up in a year and tell me that again.
And the "Best Bump of 2009 Award" will go to...

[CocheseUGA]

It's simple. First off, why would the price of a trade in rise? I see no reason for GameStop to do that, especially in such a short period. We've already established earlier in the thread that there was a $10 extra trade in for systems, so that takes the base trade in of $160 to $170. If the system was in bad condition, Visc would not have bought it.

Think about it. Why would he want to buy a damaged system? And I do find it important. If GameStop offers you $170 credit and a random stranger offers you $170 cash, and you plan on spending it at GameStop, what are you going to take? With the $10 extra the guy was getting the same amount as the offer, making Visc's offer look non-appealing to him, which explains why he didn't sell it to Visc.

Alright, let's assume that GameStop did only quote him $160 at the moment. Most GameStops have fliers of all the promos going on, so the customer would have clearly seen that he would have gotten an extra $10, which is why he took a moment pause to answer. He saw a flier in the store for the promo

So, what did the seller/trader look like? Because clearly, you must have been in the store as well.

[naes]

So, what did the seller/trader look like? Because clearly, you must have been in the store as well.
Oof. :-#

[pulsar0510]

And their stock price still went down 4%.


And Bear Stearns was trading for $159 in the last year.

Oldsmobile disappeared after 100 years of selling automobiles.

Point being, any business, no matter how big, could be gone tomorrow.
Exactly my point. I was starting to think I was the only one who realized that businesses fail, regardless of supposed earnings.

[CheapBastardToo]

And their stock price still went down 4%.


And Bear Stearns was trading for $159 in the last year.

Oldsmobile disappeared after 100 years of selling automobiles.

Point being, any business, no matter how big, could be gone tomorrow.

Actually GME closed up 3.3% on the day today. And it would take some serious ineptitude to run a near-monopoly with non-unionized labor into the ground... heck even Bear just got screwed by panicked investors making a run on the bank and Oldsmobile was a GM mark that lost its popularity.

[CocheseUGA]

Actually GME closed up 3.3% on the day today. And it would take some serious ineptitude to run a near-monopoly with non-unionized labor into the ground... heck even Bear just got screwed by panicked investors making a run on the bank and Oldsmobile was a GM mark that lost its popularity.

They still couldn't make up the drop from Monday. They may be having record numbers, but Wall Street is apathetic.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Actually GME closed up 3.3% on the day today. And it would take some serious ineptitude to run a near-monopoly with non-unionized labor into the ground... heck even Bear just got screwed by panicked investors making a run on the bank and Oldsmobile was a GM mark that lost its popularity.

Precisely.

[srad1968]

And the "Best Bump of 2009 Award" will go to...
Didn't understand that.... hope you weren't saying I was bumping, my posts were 4 minutes apart.

[Sinnbox]

I doubt GS will die out anytime soon, everytime i go inthere there are Noob gamers tradeing and buying, about the only time i see hardcore gamers there they are buying, not trading, as long as little Jimmy can trade in his copy of Pokemon red for a copy of pokemon fusha, and his grandma can buy herself a copy of suduku there will be a gamestop. lets face it most 13yr olds are too lazy to Ebay, and most grandparents are too technologicaly impared. And 100% of soccermoms will rush in and buy a $50 copy of Hanna Montana, and a $50 copy of Mario party 8 for her screaming kids. stores like EB/GS will ive on as long as there are hardcopys of games. They help the industry, but those of us that are smarter than the average gamer can get bettr prices online and just use EB/GS as a place to flip games.

[davo1224]

It would certainly be possible for Gamestop to go out of business but someone already pointed out why they most likely won't ever. They're a near monopoly with an idiot-proof sales model that produces profit without the need for underwear or any guesswork. That's the difference between them and a shitty store like Ames getting absolutely spanked by Wal-Mart.

[Sinnbox]

I want all the companies that they swallowed back.....

[Demolition Man]

I want all the companies that they swallowed back.....

Don't we all.