Fallout 3 - Gen. Discussion & Info - 'GOTY' Edition w/All 5 DLC Packs 10.13.09

[Link927]

I just bought the DLC and I have to say it was a bit short. I wish there was some more freedom in exploring Anchorage, it was a bit too linear. Im not sure if I would want to invest more pts into the upcoming DLC, if it were for 400, then maybe, but at 800, I'm gonna have to pass

[schuerm26]

Can someone PLEASE help me out with finding the Rangers Compound in the Reilly's Rangers Mission?

I have already saved the people from the hotel, I just have to meet back at the compound. I NEVER found it on the way to the hotel so I can't just warp back. I can not figure out how to get to this thing.

Do I need to go through the subways to get to it?

[Bavgate]

Can someone PLEASE help me out with finding the Rangers Compound in the Reilly's Rangers Mission?

I have already saved the people from the hotel, I just have to meet back at the compound. I NEVER found it on the way to the hotel so I can't just warp back. I can not figure out how to get to this thing.

Do I need to go through the subways to get to it?

Yeah, you have to go through the Anacostia Metro Station to Seward Square. The station is located just north of Rivet City (very, very close). I don't think you have to go down onto the tracks, just follow the map east and you'll come to an exit to Seward Square, eventually.

[lordwow]

Ya, from anacostia, just set it as a waypoint (or it may already be if you got out of the hotel) and use your local map and just hug the right wall.

[v1et r1ce]

Ok I just started playing this game last week and have a few questions...

I told the sheriff of Megaton (Sims or something) that Burke wanted to blow the city up, so he went up to him and got shot. Is this suppose to happen? Nobody seems to notice anything except his little son or something suddenly appeared. His body is just lying of the floor, along with Burke's ;)

Also, I went to the West's home and of course found them dead. I saw that the beds weren't red, so I decided to sleep in them. When I woke up, it said that I wasn't well rested. Is this because of the quality of the bed/room? I usually sleep at the inn, but 120 caps is too much for me to pay everyday to sleep. Is there another way to get rested and replenish my health? Or am I doing something wrong.

[lordwow]

Ok I just started playing this game last week and have a few questions...

I told the sheriff of Megaton (Sims or something) that Burke wanted to blow the city up, so he went up to him and got shot. Is this suppose to happen? Nobody seems to notice anything except his little son or something suddenly appeared. His body is just lying of the floor, along with Burke's ;)

yes


Also, I went to the West's home and of course found them dead. I saw that the beds weren't red, so I decided to sleep in them. When I woke up, it said that I wasn't well rested. Is this because of the quality of the bed/room? I usually sleep at the inn, but 120 caps is too much for me to pay everyday to sleep. Is there another way to get rested and replenish my health? Or am I doing something wrong.


how long did you sleep? I believe you have to sleep like ~4 hours to be well rested or it may wear off really quickly. I'm not 100% sure, I usually rest 8 hours unless I just need to heal or I need to trade with Moria and I wake up at 8/9 AM

[Sharp Katana]

Ok I just started playing this game last week and have a few questions...

I told the sheriff of Megaton (Sims or something) that Burke wanted to blow the city up, so he went up to him and got shot. Is this suppose to happen? Nobody seems to notice anything except his little son or something suddenly appeared. His body is just lying of the floor, along with Burke's ;)

Also, I went to the West's home and of course found them dead. I saw that the beds weren't red, so I decided to sleep in them. When I woke up, it said that I wasn't well rested. Is this because of the quality of the bed/room? I usually sleep at the inn, but 120 caps is too much for me to pay everyday to sleep. Is there another way to get rested and replenish my health? Or am I doing something wrong.


you were supposed to kill Burke before he killed Simms if you're planning on being a good character. He gives you a house in Megaton, if you help Burke you'll get a room at Tenpenny Tower. If you're going blow up megaton be sure to grab the bobble head in Simms room.

Sometimes the game says I'm not well rested even though my health bar was fully replenished. Then 5 seconds later it'll say 'you are now well rested.' I think if you've got a full health bar you're fine.


And I just found out I somehow missed the power energy bobble head :bomb: after speaking to the president . Is it true I can't go back and grab it?

[lordwow]

That's not true about Lucas:
His son gives you the house if he is killed, it's fine either way

And about the bobblehead:

ya, that's the only one you can't go back and get

[v1et r1ce]

That's not true about Lucas:
His son gives you the house if he is killed, it's fine either way
When can I get the house? Or better yet, how?

And
how long did you sleep? I believe you have to sleep like ~4 hours to be well rested or it may wear off really quickly. I'm not 100% sure, I usually rest 8 hours unless I just need to heal or I need to trade with Moria and I wake up at 8/9 AM
I slept like 10 hours.

[ZasKuLL]

No, there is no quality difference with beds. You can sleep anywhere.

[lordwow]

When can I get the house? Or better yet, how?

by disarming the bomb

[v1et r1ce]

No, there is no quality difference with beds. You can sleep anywhere.

by disarming the bomb
Thanks. I'm still trying to get the hang of this game (never played a Fallout game before, and I've only played Oblivion once, and it was the tutorial level.

[Sharp Katana]

That's not true about Lucas:
His son gives you the house if he is killed, it's fine either way

And about the bobblehead:

ya, that's the only one you can't go back and get

shit I guess I gotta load another save and collect all of them using that one.

Btw, is there a reason why my skills keep going down? For instance I had 100 in lock pick and science and now it's down to 98 for both there's also a negative next to it. I had a positive for speech now I'm maxed out.

[Luftwaffles08]

shit I guess I gotta load another save and collect all of them using that one.

Btw, is there a reason why my skills keep going down? For instance I had 100 in lock pick and science and now it's down to 98 for both there's also a negative next to it. I had a positive for speech now I'm maxed out.

You're either crippled or addicted to something. A trip to a doctor will patch you up.

[Sharp Katana]

You're either crippled or addicted to something. A trip to a doctor will patch you up.

lol I was addicted to wine. I just visited the doctor and my stats are back to 100 again. Thanks for the tip.

[lordwow]

I have to say, they did a really good job hiding the bobbleheads. I've gone to the general area (like deathclaw sanctuary) but I've walked by them almost every time until I look at a youtube video on where they are. Hidden in plain sight as they say.

[ihadFG]

For the well-rested thing: I think if you are already well-rested and then sleep, it will say "you are no longer well rested" and then immediately after that message goes away, "you are now well rested." At least that's what happened to me a lot.

[Bavgate]

Regarding the well-rested effect, you have to rest in a bed that you own (ex. Megaton house) or a bed that you rented (ex. hotel in Moriarty's) in order to get the exp. boost. Sleeping in any other bed that you don't own or rented after you have the well-rested effect, no matter what amount of time you slept, will cancel it.

[GizmoGC]

Do any of the DLCs have new Achievements?

[Sharp Katana]

Do any of the DLCs have new Achievements?

4 more achievements. 100 GS points.

Finally finished the game yesterday.

[Gden]

I feel kinda stupid asking this question, but a lot of sites post this and its previous games as RPGs, could someone please explain to me what about these games make them rpgs? I've tried looking up pics and trailers, but they don't give away much.

[lordwow]

There ya go:

A role-playing game (RPG; often roleplaying game) is a game in which the participants assume the roles of fictional characters. Participants determine the actions of their characters based on their characterization, and the actions succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. Within the rules, players have the freedom to improvise; their choices shape the direction and outcome of the game.

[Gden]

Thank you for the definition that was unnecessary, and unwanted, now can someone actually answer my question: What about Fallouts 1, 2, and 3 makes them RPGs. Nevermind, ex the question, I looked it up myself, and found out. Out of curiosity, the second fallout game I was looking at gameplay of it, and it looks to play like Neverwinter nights 1, is this correct, or am I crazy?

[moojuice]

Wow, he misread your post. No need to be a dick about it.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Wow, he misread your post. No need to be a dick about it.

Seriously.

[Ex~]

You know what, murder pass is kind of hard at level 5.

I guess I need to buy some heavy weapons or something. Seriously, this is ridiculous.

Any advice?

[Ex~]

Just finished the game the first time through.

Took me a little over 12 hours, difficulty set to hard. Up to Level 8, good Karma.

What a game! I haven't even touched a percent of the map! This game is even more extraordinarily massive than Oblivion, and way more detailed. And hard! Seriously, some of the DC streets are just plain frightening when I was early in level, like around level 4 trying to get to Rivet City.

Most of those 12 hours were spent completely lost in the metro system, and wandering around DC getting torn apart and running for my life from super mutants.


One huge disappointment: I didn't laugh once in the game. I came close when liberty prime started his kill all Red china bastard communists speech, but really, even that wasn't very funny. Just tired and overdrawn.

I'd say the side quests are cooler than Oblivion, though, even if there's not an ounce of humor to be had anywhere in this game. Too bad, really, Bethesda needs to hire some writers with a sense of humor. The main storyline felt almost EXACTLY like Oblivion, only just moderately better.

[Ex~]

I just bought the DLC and I have to say it was a bit short. I wish there was some more freedom in exploring Anchorage, it was a bit too linear. Im not sure if I would want to invest more pts into the upcoming DLC, if it were for 400, then maybe, but at 800, I'm gonna have to pass

Well, from what I read, Anchorage was supposed to be a "military simulator", so it's like playing a video-game in a videogame. It's supposed to be linear.

Had you read about it, or read reviews, you would have been forewarned about this. I've read that complaint in EVERY single review I've seen for the Anchorage DLC.

The Pitt, however, is supposed to be just another location. So you should expect plenty of exploration and side-quests.

[Sharp Katana]

You know what, murder pass is kind of hard at level 5.

I guess I need to buy some heavy weapons or something. Seriously, this is ridiculous.

Any advice?

you could avoid murder pass altogether. Talk to Mayor MacCready who will then refer you to Joseph. If your speech is high enough I think he will hack the terminal and provide you with a safer path. You can also do side quests to level up. I finished up about half of them before even doing the main quest. I think I was level 12 when I entered Little Lamplight.

[judyjudyjudy]

One huge disappointment: I didn't laugh once in the game. I came close when liberty prime started his kill all Red china bastard communists speech, but really, even that wasn't very funny. Just tired and overdrawn.

I'd say the side quests are cooler than Oblivion, though, even if there's not an ounce of humor to be had anywhere in this game. Too bad, really, Bethesda needs to hire some writers with a sense of humor.I completely disagree with you on this. The game's sense of humor was one the main draws for me. Different strokes for different folks.

[schuerm26]

Something I have been thinking about so wanted to ask.

I am on the very last quest of the main quest. I have done almost all of the side quests (from what I can tell by looking at a walkthrough). I DO NOT have Operation Anchorage yet. This next questions also apply to the Pittsburgh thing coming out.

I have heard that if you beat it you can't do anymore of the side quests. If I am going to get Operation Anchorage and want to play with my current guy, should I not beat the game? Same goes for Pitt. Or should I just save before and then reopen that file when Im ready to download? Though then I would just have to beat the main quest again. Thanks.

[destinywaste]

Something I have been thinking about so wanted to ask.

I am on the very last quest of the main quest. I have done almost all of the side quests (from what I can tell by looking at a walkthrough). I DO NOT have Operation Anchorage yet. This next questions also apply to the Pittsburgh thing coming out.

I have heard that if you beat it you can't do anymore of the side quests. If I am going to get Operation Anchorage and want to play with my current guy, should I not beat the game? Same goes for Pitt. Or should I just save before and then reopen that file when Im ready to download? Though then I would just have to beat the main quest again. Thanks.

There is no going back once you beat the final mission in the main quest. Save your game just before starting the last quest at the Citadel so you can use the same character for the two DLCs.

[schuerm26]

There is no going back once you beat the final mission in the main quest. Save your game just before starting the last quest at the Citadel so you can use the same character for the two DLCs.


Then my next question would be, should I stop doing the last remaining side quests? Im not getting any more experience by doing them. I heard with the Pitt download the level cap will go up to 30. Would it be possible to download Pitt and then finish the side quests so my level can continue up doing them? Maybe there isn't enough info out for anyone to know, but was just curious.

[Sharp Katana]

Then my next question would be, should I stop doing the last remaining side quests? Im not getting any more experience by doing them. I heard with the Pitt download the level cap will go up to 30. Would it be possible to download Pitt and then finish the side quests so my level can continue up doing them? Maybe there isn't enough info out for anyone to know, but was just curious.

i don't see why not. It's not a simulation like Operation anchorage where you can't leave until you're finished.

[lordwow]

The 3rd DLC, Broken Steel increases the level cap, not The Pitt.

[yukafls]

Whats the button combo to use if the game freezes??

[destinywaste]

Whats the button combo to use if the game freezes??

press the power button on your console?

[DT778]

Whats the button combo to use if the game freezes??Are you talking about clearing the cache? If so

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/09/xbox-360-hdd-cache-clear-code-discovered/

[yukafls]

Not exactly what I was getting at. I swear somewhere in the thread someone mentioned a button pattern. Oh well.

Got another question, if I fire fawkes can I rehire him later???

[destinywaste]

Not exactly what I was getting at. I swear somewhere in the thread someone mentioned a button pattern. Oh well.

Got another question, if I fire fawkes can I rehire him later???

Yes, as long as you maintain good karma. I think he goes to Underworld if you fire him. Not sure though..he probably specifies where he's headed.

[yukafls]

Good, I am currently stuck in my bedroom at megaton cause his fat ass is glitched in between the chair and the terminal.

[PhrostByte]

Good, I am currently stuck in my bedroom at megaton cause his fat ass is glitched in between the chair and the terminal.

Throw a grenade at him maybe?

[Sharp Katana]

Throw a grenade at him maybe?

if you attack him enough he'll attack you back. He might come back after you kill him though. I was playing the other day and Charon came back when I went to visit the underworld. Time to go wreak havoc :applause:

[yukafls]

Haha, I have tried throwing a grenade, shooting a missile, and firing the 8 mini nuke launcher(results in death :)) Guess I just have to let him go

[PhrostByte]

I don't really play Fallout anymore since SFIV is out but if Fawkes attacked me I think I'd be heart broken...

[destinywaste]

Good, I am currently stuck in my bedroom at megaton cause his fat ass is glitched in between the chair and the terminal.

That happened to me a couple times. I think if you fire him he will start walking and if you like you can immediately rehire him.

[Flyersfan]

I need some input from you guys who have this game.


I'm late to the party but I'm looking to buy this game now that I can get it cheaper. I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on buying it because I don't care for RPG's that much. Granted, I've only played the traditional Japanese ones (FF, played Blue Dragon once and hated it). I played Oblivion for a while before I just lost track (I didn't care for the story or setting of Oblivion either). Is there anyone out there like me who has this game, because I'd really like to read their opinion.

I do like Call of Duty 4/WaW and it's ranking system, which I know this game has levels to gain and what not but is that in any way similar?

[yukafls]

Sadly I had to kill Fawkes because even after i fired him he was still stuck there

[PhrostByte]

Poor Fawkes. :(

Flyerfan: This is the only RPG I've actually enjoyed playing.

[Bavgate]

No date for the new DLC yet? :(

EDIT: Whoops, nevermind. Found it: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bethesda-dates-fallout-3-the-pitt

March 24th for The Pitt!

[bardockkun]

I need some input from you guys who have this game.


I'm late to the party but I'm looking to buy this game now that I can get it cheaper. I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on buying it because I don't care for RPG's that much. Granted, I've only played the traditional Japanese ones (FF, played Blue Dragon once and hated it). I played Oblivion for a while before I just lost track (I didn't care for the story or setting of Oblivion either). Is there anyone out there like me who has this game, because I'd really like to read their opinion.

I do like Call of Duty 4/WaW and it's ranking system, which I know this game has levels to gain and what not but is that in any way similar?
The leveling up system is (I guess) a bit similar to Call of Duty in the fact that each time you level up you get to choose what kind of perk you want (stronger in the sunlight, better resistance to radiation, able to carry more, etc.), but it stays with you throughout the game and no way to change it. There's also different variety to choose from and can basically create a character totally different from others.

Besides that, Fallout is nothing like a traditional JRPG since in the end the guns will be the one doing the talking. Only thing I think you may not like is that the FPS gameplay is no where near the polish of CoD games, but it's still fun with the amount of depth and how you wish to play it.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Poor Fawkes. :(

Flyerfan: This is the only RPG I've actually enjoyed playing.
Same here, I don't normally like RPGs at all (Oblivion included) but I LOVE Fallout 3. Highly reccomend it.

[Flyersfan]

Thanks guys.

[paddlefoot]

I need some input from you guys who have this game.


I'm late to the party but I'm looking to buy this game now that I can get it cheaper. I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on buying it because I don't care for RPG's that much. Granted, I've only played the traditional Japanese ones (FF, played Blue Dragon once and hated it). I played Oblivion for a while before I just lost track (I didn't care for the story or setting of Oblivion either). Is there anyone out there like me who has this game, because I'd really like to read their opinion.

I do like Call of Duty 4/WaW and it's ranking system, which I know this game has levels to gain and what not but is that in any way similar?

I like the leveling system in Fallout 3 infinitely more than Oblivion.

I am creating a new character when the level cap is raised and like the fact that I can plan my level up strategy at the beginning of the game (perks, skill books, etc.) and am not required to repeat mindless acts to achieve my goals. I don't need to smack people with my barehands, summon a skeleton to attack me, leaplike a grasshopper to every destination, etc.

[yukafls]

3 more screen shots of the pit

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fallout3-screenshots1.html

[bigdaddybruce44]

OA was pretty good, but The Pitt looks even better, considering we're gonna get to actually make some choices again this time around. Can't wait for later this month.

[FoxHoundADAM]

OA was pretty good, but The Pitt looks even better, considering we're gonna get to actually make some choices again this time around. Can't wait for later this month.
Not to mention a graphics tweek that makes it look better.

[destinywaste]

3 more screen shots of the pit

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fallout3-screenshots1.html

Looks very promising. I for one, am looking forward to killing off a whole new species of monsters.

[CrimsonPaw]

The Pitt looks good, but I might have Broken Steel be my first DLC just so that I can get past Level 20 and be able to roam the game after I've beaten it.

[sotc1988]

Man the pitt looks good. I can't wait for that.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Just saw the trailer for The Pitt on Game Trailers. Looks good.

[yukafls]

Here is the Pitt trailer, and 3 more screen shots from the fallout site

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fallout3-screenshots1.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/46717.html

[method47]

So does this mean that The Pitt will be completely separate from the main game like first speculated?

[bigdaddybruce44]

From what I read on the Fallout Wiki, yes. You will use some sort of underground railway to reach The Pitt, which will be its own map.

[Bavgate]

Gotta bump this. The Pitt comes out tomorrow!

[destinywaste]

Read somewhere that the Pitt is roughly 4 hrs. That's a huge dispoointment! I really hope they put a lot more into Broken Steel even if it means they need to charge more.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Disappointment? Sounds good to me. At least, it will be longer than Operation Anchorage and return us to the traditional style of Fallout gameplay.

[yukafls]

I guess I will get it tomorrow, it looks good and I havent touched fallout in a while

[seanr1221]

4 hours of gameplay for 10.00 is good.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Looking forward to later.

OA was a disappointment for me, but this seems nice.

[sotc1988]

I still have the 1600 points from the watchmen ticket deal at Best Buy so I'll be getting this. I have tomorrow off so maybe I'll take a nap and wake up later tonight at 2 am and download it and play a little.

[tenzor]

Did anyone hear about Fallout receiving an update to allow you to continue the game once you finish it? I remember reading this somewhere, but never researched to see if it was true.

I am still on my first play through, and was hoping this update was true so I can just finish the main-quest, and then go back and do all the side quests I am missing without having to start a whole new game.

[bigdaddybruce44]

There's a mod on the PC that allows you to do that, but no, there is nothing official like that for the 360. The third DLC, Broken Steel, is suppose to advance the main storyline and raise the level cap to 30, so perhaps you can return to sidequests at that point.

[sotc1988]

DON'T BUY THE FUCKING PITT! Seriously, I bought and it is literally brimming with glitches. My fingers would fall off from typing them but most importantly THE GAME FREEZES NEAR THE BEGINNING FOR WHAT SEEMS TO BE A LARGE MAJORITY (IF NOT ALL) OF THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IT. DO NOT BUY THE PITT
Seriously pissed right now because I was really looking forward to this. What's the point of Microsoft having such a heavy approval process if pieces of shit like this get put up anyways?
EDIT: Just to make it clear, I bought it, and it is a mess that freezes all the time. Personal experience HO!

[Unassuming Local Guy]

If this is another four hour romp, I'm going to wait until the level cap is lifted. Anchorage was cool but the loot was useless as I didn't have anything to do when I left the simulation.

[Plumbtree]

DON'T BUY THE FUCKING PITT! Seriously, I bought and it is literally brimming with glitches. My fingers would fall off from typing them but most importantly THE GAME FREEZES NEAR THE BEGINNING FOR WHAT SEEMS TO BE A LARGE MAJORITY (IF NOT ALL) OF THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IT. DO NOT BUY THE PITT
Seriously pissed right now because I was really looking forward to this. What's the point of Microsoft having such a heavy approval process if pieces of shit like this get put up anyways?
EDIT: Just to make it clear, I bought it, and it is a mess that freezes all the time. Personal experience HO!
I can confirm this. As soon as you try to enter downtown it freezes. Also you see these weird red diamonds with exclamation points above storage boxes. I've heard of texture problems but didn't notice myself. Buyer beware.

[SlimJim0725]

I can confirm this. As soon as you try to enter downtown it freezes. Also you see these weird red diamonds with exclamation points above storage boxes. I've heard of texture problems but didn't notice myself. Buyer beware.

This! I am extremely angry that I woke up at 7am (non for this, just happened) and ended up wasting $10 on something that is unplayable. There better be a very quick fix for this or I will not purchase a game from Bethesda ever again. I find it unacceptable considering this was delayed content as it is and it is still this buggy.

[Unassuming Local Guy]

Also you see these weird red diamonds with exclamation points above storage boxes.

Dude, that's just Snake. Don't worry about him.

[Nikadimas]

Those red diamonds seemed to be alerting to unfinished areas. I've tried 3 times to enter downtown now and it freezes everytime. I've also noticed a lot of texture issues. Severely disappointing because I was waiting all month for this DLC and what I got was an unplayable, unfinished mess.

[Scorch]

Thanks for the heads up, guys. I was about to buy a 1600 point card!

[SlimJim0725]

Here is the official thread where they are keeping tabs on everything http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=969966&st=140

Looks like the PC version already got their stuff fixed though it seemed they had problems at first (they downloaded the same mess we have on the 360 version, apparently it is just an incomplete file of some sort).

[PhrostByte]

We are continuing to look into the issues people are experiencing with The Pitt for Xbox 360. As of now it looks like the file for the English version on Xbox Live was somehow corrupted. We are currently working with Microsoft to remove the existing file off of Live to prevent any further downloads. Our plan is to replace it with a new file as soon as possible. We hope to have another update for you shortly.

www.bethblog.com

[ZasKuLL]

The Pitt is fucked.

[Scorch]

The Pitt has been removed from XBox Live.

[bardockkun]

Good thing I didn't get this at 3:30AM here.

[Bavgate]

Yep, damn good thing I didn't stay up to download this. Still, I can't wait until they actually put up the working version.

[bardockkun]

Thats the thing about DLC if its glitched and broken too bad NO refunds.

If a disk you buy at Gamestop is broken or glitched you can return it.


Our consumer protection rights need to apply to Digital content just like it does for retail stores.
...

...What?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, your argument isn't really valid. If you bought, say, my favorite example of a broken game, Big Rigs: Over (or under or through) the Road Racing, you could not get a refund. GameStop or any other store is not going to accept a return on a game unless the disc is broke. And in that case, they will just give you another copy of the broke game.

This will be fixed, obviously. It sucks for those that bought it and were looking forward to playing it, but it isn't like you're going to be stuck with the broken file forever.

[the_deej]

where are you Pitt??

[schuerm26]

Yeah, your argument isn't really valid. If you bought, say, my favorite example of a broken game, Big Rigs: Over (or under or through) the Road Racing, you could not get a refund. GameStop or any other store is not going to accept a return on a game unless the disc is broke. And in that case, they will just give you another copy of the broke game.

This will be fixed, obviously. It sucks for those that bought it and were looking forward to playing it, but it isn't like you're going to be stuck with the broken file forever.

Not necessarily sure that is true. If I remember correctly the first 2k baseball game on the 360 had horrendous freezing problems. I recall gamestop allowing returns on that one it was so bad. Could be wrong on that though.

This seems to be beyond broken though as in it is non functioning. If a game shipped where you couldn't even start the thing, stores would be allowing returns on them.

[bigdaddybruce44]

If anyone has an example of a store taking a hit over a game company's mistake, I'd like to see proof of it. The only way that happening is the publisher themselves pulled the plug and was reimbursing the store. Unless that is the case, no store is going to care if the game itself is broken. As long as the physical product they sold you is fine, everything else is the problem the developer and publisher. Big Rigs is close to the most broke piece of shit that was ever developed. To say you can actually "play" it is stretching the line. And yet, the game was sold, and I doubt any store took it back just because it was a complete piece of garbage.

Again, this is easy patched. It will probably be fixed in a day or two, and all of this will be forgotten. It's not the same as selling that doesn't work and never will work.

[schuerm26]

If anyone has an example of a store taking a hit over a game company's mistake, I'd like to see proof of it. The only way that happening is the publisher themselves pulled the plug and was reimbursing the store. Unless that is the case, no store is going to care if the game itself is broken. As long as the physical product they sold you is fine, everything else is the problem the developer and publisher. Big Rigs is close to the most broke piece of shit that was ever developed. To say you can actually "play" it is stretching the line. And yet, the game was sold, and I doubt any store took it back just because it was a complete piece of garbage.

Again, this is easy patched. It will probably be fixed in a day or two, and all of this will be forgotten. It's not the same as selling that doesn't work and never will work.

First of all, I highly doubt the store would be taking the hit. From posts, you can't even ENTER the main part of the game here. IF a game released on disc and the moment you stepped in to the actual game world it froze up every time, there would be some pissed off customers. Every store would be taking those back and then the developer slash publisher would be working it out with the retail store. If a line of people all with the exact same problem came with a return to the store, do you honestly think they are going to turn them away. Highly unlikely.

Once again, from what the previous posts are saying, it isn't broken. You can't even start the game. That isn't broken, it just plain doesn't work. Broken controls and bugs are one thing. Not even being able to start the game is another.

Not quite sure why we are having this discussion though. You are arguing a game that sucks versus a game that literally can't be played.

[IronsideGrunt]

I've read the links posted on the devs site....

This sucks but I dont think it should be a hassle for those that bought it already so long as the devs fix the file as all you would do is download it again once the new file is up.

Your account on LIVE should be credited with the file as already purchased so...I would think that once they put the file back on LIVE you'd be set. Just remember to delete the old/corrupted fle from your HDD.

Sure your going to have to wait until its back up but I dont think your out 10 bucks. Of course it sucks that this situation has gone down to begin with but it happens.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Not quite sure why we are having this discussion though. You are arguing a game that sucks versus a game that literally can't be played.

Not even close. Next time, know what you're talking about before you say something. Big Rigs was completely broken. The only thing you could kind of do was drive your truck...when in wasn't falling through the road. Nothing else in the game worked...including your opponents. It was a racing game where the other trucks didn't move. That's called broken and unplayable. It isn't even a game. And yet, it was sold, and no one was taking them back. There's no difference here...well except for that fact that this will be fixed, and Big Rigs wasn't, except for a lousy patch that kind of made your opponents drive...until they came close to the finish line...

So, as I already explained, this will easily be fixed. It's called...a mistake was made. End of story.

[tiredfornow]

You dudes thinking you're out of 10 bucks are fucking wack. :rofl:

[schuerm26]

Not even close. Next time, know what you're talking about before you say something. Big Rigs was completely broken. The only thing you could kind of do was drive your truck...when in wasn't falling through the road. Nothing else in the game worked...including your opponents. It was a racing game where the other trucks didn't move. That's called broken and unplayable. It isn't even a game. And yet, it was sold, and no one was taking them back. There's no difference here...well except for that fact that this will be fixed, and Big Rigs wasn't, except for a lousy patch that kind of made your opponents drive...until they came close to the finish line...

So, as I already explained, this will easily be fixed. It's called...a mistake was made. End of story.

There's a HUGE difference. Ill let you figure it out.

[schuerm26]

You dudes thinking you're out of 10 bucks are fucking wack. :rofl:

Who thinks that?

[SynGamer]

$10 for DLC? Fuck that shit. I could get a couple arcade games or pick something up off of Newegg. I'm definitely holding onto my older consoles because this DLC trend is worrisome if it continues like it is.

[SlimJim0725]

You dudes thinking you're out of 10 bucks are fucking wack. :rofl:

I don't think any of us think we are out $10, we are just out of $10 for the moment since we actually paid for this content already and can't play it unlike the people who didn't get the chance to download it since they took it off. Certain CAG members just get more annoying everytime they post and you seem to be one of them, quit trolling.

[sotc1988]

Not even close. Next time, know what you're talking about before you say something. Big Rigs was completely broken. The only thing you could kind of do was drive your truck...when in wasn't falling through the road. Nothing else in the game worked...including your opponents. It was a racing game where the other trucks didn't move. That's called broken and unplayable. It isn't even a game. And yet, it was sold, and no one was taking them back. There's no difference here...well except for that fact that this will be fixed, and Big Rigs wasn't, except for a lousy patch that kind of made your opponents drive...until they came close to the finish line...

So, as I already explained, this will easily be fixed. It's called...a mistake was made. End of story.
Just looked up that games' wiki page. That shit is WACK. Hilarious though. Was hoping this would be fixed by now...

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yep. Big Rigs is pretty damn funny, as long as you weren't ill-informed enough to buy it. If you can find it in a thrift store or something for $1 or less, it's worth fooling around with for a few minutes, just to see how damn broken it is.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/YOU%27RE_WINNER_trophy.jpg

[yukafls]

Damn, so there is no content. Shit that sucks.

[DJEZombie]

Does anyone know when it's supposed to be fixed? I was looking to purchase points in order to get The Pitt.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Lame... hopefully they get it online soon.

[sotc1988]

They basically just said "we're working on it". Could be as long as a week or maybe tomorrow. They're being annoyingly quite about it.

[FluxDF]

MajorNelson's Twitter (http://twitter.com/majornelson) says it won't be back online until tomorrow.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Bummer about the DLC. Was planning on hoping on tonight to play a little Pitt.

[iNFiNiTE HORiZON]

they should have taken more time on their DLC.

Operation Anchorage I got all hyped about and stayed up all night to buy it and I felt buyers remorse right after.

OA is the reason I decided not to get hyped about The Pitt and it looks like that was a good decision. They aren't putting enough into their DLC. I think I'm even gonna dump the game off now and wait for a GOTY edition to save money.

I loved the game but the DLC is clearly being rushed out and not worked on enough. OA had no clever ideas in it at all, it was a snorefest. I'm cashing out while I still can atleast break even.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I don't think that is the case at all. I will agree that OA was not as good as we had hoped, but it had nothing to do with being rushed out the door. The problem is that the story was not engaging, and they made it an entirely combat-oriented DLC, which is not what Fallout is about.

As far as The Pitt goes, it's apparent something happened that shouldn't have. The PC version was not affected, according to everything I have read. The files for the 360 were somehow corrupted, and they are fixing it.

As for when this will be back, seems like tomorrow, according to Bethesda's blog.

[joe2187]

Facebook Fallout 3 left this message:

The Pitt is uploading to Xbox LIVE and should be available this evening. We'll let you know when it's up. Thanks for your patience.

[xpag406]

From Major Nelson's Twitter:
"I am tracking The Pitt content...it's due up later today, and I'll post when it's ready for consumption."

[Sgt Barone]

After being taken of the XBLM for maintenence yesterday, the DLC pack for Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360, "The Pitt", is back online! This isn't really a deal but a lot of people were wondering yesterday what the problem was.

*This is Xbox 360 and PC exclusive. The PC version however was not corrupted.

[Keavy_Rain]

Considering I bought it the second it came out and dealt with the issue, I am glad they've resolved it so quickly.

Now, to XBLM!

[etcrane]

Technically it's 360 & PC exclusive, but still good to let people know none-the-less. Now if only MS would let you download the same content for 360 if you bought the PC DLC and vice-versa.

[Panther1484]

Awesome, I just checked at 2:45 and it wasn't up.

Time to go get me an auto-axe!

[Bavgate]

Woo-hoo! Time to play.

[SlimJim0725]

I just finished re-downloading a little while ago and made it back to the Pitt area, still glitchy if you turn around, haven't checked if the first real mission of it causes freezing again, but I am thinking it is going to, nothing really seems fixed so far. Before anyone ask too, I did delete the old Pitt download and get the new one, still having issues though.

[Sharp Katana]

i guess it's a good thing I didn't hop on and play fallout 3 yet. Glad they've got the patch up

[moonknight25]

It seems to be okay now...I'm about 20 mins into the Pitt content

[sotc1988]

I am SO glad I made a new save for the pitt and didn't save over my master file. That would have sucked and I am sorry for anybody who's file was corrupted.

[sotc1988]

Wow that was...SHORT. Pretty much over before you know it but at least you can play it again with different choices and collect 100 steel things. Gut reaction is to say don't buy. Just too damn short to be worth it.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Over that quick, huh? That stinks. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, because Fallout 3, in my opinion, is such a great value on its own. Nonetheless, pretty disappointing these first two pieces of DLC have not been that great.

[SlimJim0725]

Seems to be working well now that I went and played another game and then tried it again. I am searching for the ingots before I do anything else, I am at around 75 of them, but they are becoming annoyingly difficult to find at this point.

[moonknight25]

It was short, but the new perks and the auto-ax make it worth it :)

[foxdvd]

Just finished the Pitt. MUCH better then the last DLC. I am one who actually enjoyed Operation Anchorage, but ultimately it was more of an amusing 2 hours then an actual Fallout quest. The Pitt, if you actually try to get all the achievements, for me at least was a solid 5 hours. The whole quest was amazing looking, the story was interesting, there was multiple ways to finish it, and lots of killing. If it was part of the original game, it would have been one of the high points. Easily worth 10 bucks.

SHORT? The last DLC took me maybe 2 hours? This took me at least 5 hours, esp. to get all 100 ingots.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Five hours sounds pretty solid for $10.

[Razzuel]

Yeah, I just finished The Pitt. It took me close to four hours to complete everything and attain every new achievement. I enjoyed it; the visual look of The Pitt is what grabbed me the strongest. The Pitt has a distinctive look that sets it apart from every other area in the Capital Wasteland.

If you are interested in playing more Fallout 3—I sure was, especially after getting the gauss rifle from Operation Anchorage—then The Pitt is probably worth the ten bucks. Hmm, I guess my biggest complaint though is that it ended; it would be awesome to have an expansion as large and of the same quality as Shivering Isles.

[yukafls]

The Pitt was pretty good, like anchorage it was short You get some good guns by collecting those metal pieces, finding all 100 is the hard part

[Bavgate]

Spent three hours on it, including getting all the ingots. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Much better than OA.

Stealing that baby was pretty goddamn funny, too. Hahahaha.

[sotc1988]

I think the biggest disappointment for me was how small everything was. I think the amount of new areas could be counted on one hand and it didn't exactly live up to the description of what I thought would be a "city" environment. And it took me an hour and forty five minutes to play through the missions on hard (I didn't do the 100 grab mission). Five hours seems to be stretching it quite a bit.

[bigdaddybruce44]

If you're on Facebook, check out Fallout 3's page. They keep randomly posting codes for OA. In the last two days, they have posted three, two for XBL and one for GWL.

[yukafls]

How do I use the ammo press machine in the Pitt, I cant find where I put the raw materials/other ammo

[guardkitty]

In The Pitt is there a good place to store some of these items? I got all 100 ingots but I'm encumbered by the weapons and armors, i want to store it for a time i can bring them back a few at a time back to my home in megaton. Or do all those items stay in The Pitt?

[yukafls]

In The Pitt is there a good place to store some of these items? I got all 100 ingots but I'm encumbered by the weapons and armors, i want to store it for a time i can bring them back a few at a time back to my home in megaton. Or do all those items stay in The Pitt?

There is a mailbox next to a army truck in front of the entrance gate to the pitt, thats where I stored my weapons cause I thought I wouldnt get them back

[guardkitty]

There is a mailbox next to a army truck in front of the entrance gate to the pitt, thats where I stored my weapons cause I thought I wouldnt get them back

Is there any recommended areas inside the slave area? I'm not sure if i can go back out the front at this moment

[DiscoDuck8k]

I used one of the lockers outside the Arena, just somewhere you know you'll remember works.

Overall it was pretty nice, definitely worth the points. I can't wait for Broken Steel.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Did the Pitt come with the graphic update as well, or is that coming with Broken Steel?

[yukafls]

How do I use the ammo press machine in the Pitt, I cant find where I put the raw materials/other ammo

Anyone??

Also, I am having trouble getting into Fort Independence(Outcasts home). I am a friend of them and Protector Casdin said he will alert the patrols that im cool but I cant go through the door of the fort. Casdin is always watchin and the only way I can get in is to pick the lock, what am I doing wrong???

[bigdaddybruce44]

Man, I was just reading that the DC ruins were originally planned to be twice as big. Also, there was going to be a mission where the Enclave launched a massive assault against Rivet City, and you had to escort the citizens to the Citadel.

[help1]

Hey guys, I just picked up the collectors edition for $30 at bestbuy. That is a good deal, right?

[PhrostByte]

Hey guys, I just picked up the collectors edition for $30 at bestbuy. That is a good deal, right?

Yes? Do you like all the shit you got for $30? If so, then yeah it's a good deal for you.

[yukafls]

An amazing deal, great buy

[bigdaddybruce44]

Wow, great buy! If I saw it for that much, I would definitely pick it up. No doubt.

[sotc1988]

So for those wondering how to make ammo, basically you find a terminal for the ammo press and next to it (well, nearby really) is a machine that presses up and down on a hot piece of metal (it's bright orange) and just beneath it is a container that you can place bullets into. Once that is done, go back to the terminal and convert it and poof you'll find your brand new bullets right where you left the last ones. Conversion can be weird. I put a thousand 5mm and only got 80 .44

[Sharp Katana]

How are you guys playing the Pitt? Every time I enter the door to downtown the xbox freezes. I've tried about 3 times now even with the patch. This is ridiculous!

[Razzuel]

How are you guys playing the Pitt? Every time I enter the door to downtown the xbox freezes. I've tried about 3 times now even with the patch. This is ridiculous!

Have you tried deleting The Pitt and then redownloading it?

[FoxHoundADAM]

I got The Pitt and am enjoying it (although I haven't found any ingots (?)) but is this the DLC that also includes the graphic improvements to the textures or it that on Brotherhood of Steel?

[Sharp Katana]

Have you tried deleting The Pitt and then redownloading it?

I haven't, I will try that tonight and see if it works. Thanks!

[guardkitty]

So I have a save where I killed Ashur and one where ti drove out Werner, err which one do you think is more fitting for a good type char?

[jhaywood1]

is the pitt worth the 800 pts? cause i bought the first one but idk i wasnt really into it

[Sharp Katana]

So I have a save where I killed Ashur and one where ti drove out Werner, err which one do you think is more fitting for a good type char?


I don't think your decision affects your karma. I'm a good character and I decided to convince Werner to leave the Pitt, I didn't gain any negative karma. It's a matter of who you want to fight. Either the Pitt Raiders or Pitt slaves. I chose the slaves since they seem to only carry Auto Axes while the Raiders actually have guns and they're all over the place. If you choose to help Asher you gain access to the Mill's arsenal.

Btw, I began collecting ingots, did anyone's game start lagging after finishing the last quest?

[FoxHoundADAM]

Whew, I finished all of the DLC last night, ingets included. Pretty good but I'm not sure if it was worth $10. $5 for sure but I suppose the Auto AX is pretty awesome. Oh well. I'll probably still get Broken Steel as raising the level cap is going to be awesome.

[TruVisionary]

is the Pitt worth getting?

[bigdaddybruce44]

To me, something like The Pitt is definitely worth $10, especially in this day and age. You have companies putting out crap like skins for a few bucks. With The Pitt, you're getting three to four hour of extra game play, as well new weapons.

[PhrostByte]

To me, something like The Pitt is definitely worth $10, especially in this day and age. You have companies putting out crap like skins for a few bucks. With The Pitt, you're getting three to four hour of extra game play, as well new weapons.

Hey, I bought those skins! :lol:

So far the only DLC I've bought has been:


4 SFIV costumes packs (JEKKI sent me the other one, thanks JEKKI!)
GTAIV: Lost and Damned
Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage and The Pitt

I'll pretty much buy any DLC if I consider the game one of my favorites.

[PINKO]

Yeah but rember oblivion DLC it was 800 points for 10 hours of game play ,30 hours for $30.they gave away a 3-4 hour qwest for chrismas

[Halo05]

Which Oblivion add on was 800 points for 10 hours? Knights of the Nine? I got it but it was so long ago that I don't remember how much it cost. I never finished it either. The final kick in the nuts is that I sold my 360 copy of Oblivion for the PS3 GOTY version so now that money is pretty much gone unless I decide I want to play Oblivion on the 360 again.

I guess that's my biggest gripe with DLC and the reason developers like it so much. It can at least partially tie you to your purchase. I'll probably never get rid of GTA4 now that I've downloaded The Lost & Damned to go with it.

[Strider Turbulence]

Horse Armor was like 200 points.


I was rather dissapointed in the Pitt myself. Pretty cool, just wish the conclusion wasn't so abrupt.

[Rei no Otaku]

I liked The Pitt, though I wish the ending had been more epic.

[Strell]

The DLC efforts so far sound unbelievably terrible. It seems like one of those "good on paper" concepts, barring the obvious exceptions (Rock Band).

[foxdvd]

The DLC efforts so far sound unbelievably terrible. It seems like one of those "good on paper" concepts, barring the obvious exceptions (Rock Band).


If you are referring to the glitches, you are right, if you are referring to the quality of the game, I think it was well worth the 20 bucks for both DLC.

[drktrpr1]

I have greatly enjoyed the DLC except for the fact that while playing the Pitt, it RROD'd my xbox...Obviously not a Fallout problem but still infuriating...The game also froze three times before that. Ugh.

[Salamando3000]

I can't say I really enjoyed this DLC. Seems like most of the gameplay for this involved getting the ingots, as everything else could be done in under 2 hours. The ingot-gathering also seemed like it had the largest and most interesting area there. Spending most of my time on an easter egg hunt doesn't exactly endear this dlc to me.

[Sharp Katana]

finished the pitt tonight. It was pretty awesome I must say, much better than Operation Anchorage.

For some odd reason when Mickey stepped outside the Megaton city door he dropped dead :/. I didn't give him a purified water while he was inside Megaton. I suppose that was a glitch.

[Calamityuponthee]

What are the chances of them releasing a disc with all this DLC on it along with the original game? Like the oblivion version. I haven't bought any of the DLC yet and sold my original copy.

[yukafls]

^^
Maybe later down the line I would assume there would be a similar game of the year addition


I was playin the game over again, and was thinking what was Commonwealth?? I looked it up and it up and found it is Massachusetts but post apocalyptic, and wondered why wasnt it to be a DLC? You could help the Androids or the regular people, but then it would be a Pitt replica with new things. Just an interesting idea

[seanr1221]

So is there a list of quests/things to do after you finish all the main sidequests?

[drktrpr1]

^^
Maybe later down the line I would assume there would be a similar game of the year addition


I was playin the game over again, and was thinking what was Commonwealth?? I looked it up and it up and found it is Massachusetts but post apocalyptic, and wondered why wasnt it to be a DLC? You could help the Androids or the regular people, but then it would be a Pitt replica with new things. Just an interesting idea


People are thinking it might eventually become DLC, as sales have been doing well for the Anchorage and Pitt add-ons, or it could eventually become a GOTY edition add-on, or it could be in a sequel! So many possibilities.

On a side not, are we still getting Broken Steel this month?

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I just finished the main storyline last night (65+ hours) and although the ending was very dissapointing, the game itself was fantastic.

I loaded up a previous save and I am roaming around the wasteland with Fawkes at the moment - discovering new areas. I'm thinking about picking up The Pitt soon since I am going to run out of stuff to do.

[PhrostByte]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/04/custom_1240148258337_DSC02194.jpg

http://forums.crackberry.com/f126/pipboy-3000-v1-5b-g-83xx-curve-182938/

[FluxDF]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/04/custom_1240148258337_DSC02194.jpg

http://forums.crackberry.com/f126/pipboy-3000-v1-5b-g-83xx-curve-182938/

Haha, that's pretty great.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Sooooooooooooooooo...did everybody see...

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/20/fallout-new-vegas-coming-to-consoles-next-year/#comments

Definitely excited to know there will be another Fallout game next year...but Vegas? I can certainly think of more interesting settings.

[miktau]

Sad it will not be the original devs but w/e

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, at the very least, we know Obsidian knows what they are going with RPGs. Sith Lords was very good and could have been great if Lucas Arts didn't make them rush it the door. Neverwinter Nights 2 was quite good. And Alpha Protocol definitely looks interesting. I am confident they will knock one out of the part with Fallout.

[seanr1221]

Cool. I'm guessing it will be a huge expansion instead of the little bits we've been getting.

[LinkinPrime]

Cool. I'm guessing it will be a huge expansion instead of the little bits we've been getting.

It's not DLC...it's a new game.

[seanr1221]

Oh :-S

Well, I'm taking a wait and see approach then.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, also keep in mind that Obsidian was formed by some of the folks from Black Isle, the team behind the original Fallout games.

[eswat]

Sad it will not be the original devs but w/e
But it is by the original devs.

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEXVzLr28UY&feature=channel_page

[bigdaddybruce44]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6208228&tag=topslot;thumb;2

Broken Steel sounds like it will be quite good.

[Keavy_Rain]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6208228&tag=topslot;thumb;2

Broken Steel sounds like it will be quite good.
Would be even better if we had a release date.

[Cleaner7]

^ Exactly. I was hoping it'd be released this week, but it looks like it won't. Hopefully we'll get an announcement by the end of the week saying it'll be out next week. They already delayed it enough and better not do it again!

[FluxDF]

I haven't finished The Pitt yet, so I'm cool to wait for Broken Steel. I'm using a save that hasn't finished the main story yet either. I missed a few of the side quests and I want to eventually go back and finish them. I'll have to do that before Broken Steel since you have to have finished the main quest.

[FluxDF]

Would be even better if we had a release date.

May 5th (http://kotaku.com/5219643/fallout-3s-delivers-puppies-on-may-5).

[LinkinPrime]

For those of you who have already played Anchorage & The Pitt...would it be worth for a newcomer like my self, which I'm currently at level 8 to play either, or both now, or wait till I level up some more?

Also Broken Steel sounds like a definite must buy.

[tiredfornow]

Wait till you're atleast around Lvl 14-15.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Glad the wait is just about over too, I'm dying to play this now.

[Sharp Katana]

can't wait to play fallout 3 again

[bigdaddybruce44]

Broken Steel sounds like the kind of DLC we wanted the other packs to be. Sounds quite big, with a lots of new places to explore and things to use.

[MP77]

I recently picked up Fallout 3 and am about to start it up but I had some questions about the various expansions. Are they seamless to general game? In other words is it a situation where I could buy them and experience those portions as part of the normal game structure or does it play more stand alone. (I hope that make sense). I also keep hearing that Broken Steel blows up the ending. Does it make sense then to play through to the end then buy Broken Steel as to experience the ending?

[bigdaddybruce44]

The content found in the first two DLCs can be experienced at any time during the game. And the thing about Broken Steel is that the game had multiple endings, so now, the way certain people played the game will not be canon, but that's generally always the case.

[crzyjoeguy]

I recently picked up Fallout 3 and am about to start it up but I had some questions about the various expansions. Are they seamless to general game? In other words is it a situation where I could buy them and experience those portions as part of the normal game structure or does it play more stand alone. (I hope that make sense). I also keep hearing that Broken Steel blows up the ending. Does it make sense then to play through to the end then buy Broken Steel as to experience the ending?


they are not stand alone, you play through your regular file. and with the fact that broken steal allows you to keep playing past the end, i made a second save file right before the end. hope that helps

[MP77]

The content found in the first two DLCs can be experienced at any time during the game. And the thing about Broken Steel is that the game had multiple endings, so now, the way certain people played the game will not be canon, but that's generally always the case.

Thanks. Maybe I'm being dense or it's the fact I'm trying to get information without getting too much detail to spoil anything but...There are multiple endings, OK, I get that but with Broken Steel they don't exist at all or they are just significant events (for lack of a better expression)?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Thinking about it, it might be possible that NONE of the Fallout 3 endings are canon. Who knows. At the end of the day, it will be impossible for them all to have taken place, because they are all pretty similar. It's just a bunch of deviations. The ending has been the one negative thing that mostly everyone has had to say about this game, and that's because they pretty much had something like this planned all along, you have to think.

Anyway, more importantly, a new screenshot I just saw reminded me of something that could be significantly different about the Capital Wasteland...

...fresh water! I just saw the screenshot of water flowing out of the Jefferson Memorial. If Project Purity worked, I am guessing there will be some minor changes to the immediate area, at the very least.

[Bavgate]

Wow, Broken Steel is already coming out on the 5th?! CRAZY! I can't wait!

[PhrostByte]

Fuck yeah! Broken Steel looks hot!

[joe2187]

Gameplay footage and features (http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/694947/index.html) of The Brotherhood of steel pack.

[LinkinPrime]

Damn it...I just finished Riley's Rangers mission and like a dumbass I went to the underworld to meet up with Riley and turns out she's at the ranger camp...it's so far away and the closest area to get there is infested with super mutants :bomb:

[FluxDF]

All I lack is finding the rest of the Steel Ingots in the Pitt.

[Cleaner7]

FINALLY we get a release date. Time to finish up the campaign. I was holding off for the level cap increase, but it looks like I'll need to beat the game for it to matter.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Anybody catch that little preview on Live? At the end, Major says BS is available, which it clearly isn't. I wonder how many people went and took a peek at the game's download list.

[drktrpr1]

Can't wait to play this tomorrow woo!!!

[Magus8472]

The Broken Steel launch trailer is pretty good, I must say.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48842.html

[bigdaddybruce44]

Clean pants, please?

[yukafls]

damn, can you control liberty prime? When he does the scanning part it looks like there is zooming in on the door like your controlling. Would be pretty cool to do

[Dante Devil]

I'm so glad I got rid of my PS3 version and bought the 360 one. Can't wait till tomorrow.

[PhrostByte]

Broken Steel! Broken Steel! Broken Steel!

[sotc1988]

damn, can you control liberty prime? When he does the scanning part it looks like there is zooming in on the door like your controlling. Would be pretty cool to do
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh wait, you were serious? You do remember Bethesda makes this right?
I'll catch it tomorrow on my day off. (and there better not be any glitches...)

[Scorch]

I totally forgot that this lands tomorrow. And I'm off. It's fate.

//edit: That trailer just totally raped my wallet of money. Holy crap, this will be amazing.

*crosses fingers* pleaseuploadtherightbuildpleaseuploadtherightbuild

[LinkinPrime]

That trailer was awesome! I guess there's no point in me buying this though since I haven't finished the game, but when I do, I'm so there.

[Magus8472]

That trailer was awesome! I guess there's no point in me buying this though since I haven't finished the game, but when I do, I'm so there.

I think it'll up the cap regardless of whether or not you've reached the end.

[LinkinPrime]

:-k...then I guess I'll buy tomorrow.

[Calamityuponthee]

When do they typically press the switch for these things at night?

[crzyjoeguy]

i got 2400 points, and 800 of them are just itching for this

[cindersphere]

Typically, 2am in the morning.

[Strider Turbulence]

Typically, 2am in the morning.

Just to clarify, that's around 5:00 am for those of us on the east coast.

[cindersphere]

Yeah, thanks forgot to add PST.

[ratzombie]

Looks like it's already up... get it while it's hot.

[Scotts85]

Where? I can't find it.

[cindersphere]

I think he was kidding. Man Homework sucks. Hoping to play this after my homework is done.

[Calamityuponthee]

Broken Steel is UP now. 620 MB.

[cindersphere]

Hope this is worth 100 points. Either way dl'ing now.

[Magus8472]

The new perks appear largely useless.

Though the one that makes you occasionally explode is bound to be hilarious.

[ratzombie]

I think he was kidding. Man Homework sucks. Hoping to play this after my homework is done.
Actually, I wasn't... it is located under "Spotlight", first ad, can't miss it. It's been available for a couple hours now, for some reason it doesn't list under "Game Add-Ons" yet.

[cindersphere]

Maybe you were just lucky?

[MikeydCT]

should I get the game now or wait to see if there is a game of the year edition with all 3 DLC's?

[SynGamer]

should I get the game now or wait to see if there is a game of the year edition with all 3 DLC's?
I'm waiting. I borrowed the game from HotShotX and beat it, i'll wait for a GotY edition with all 4 (or more) DLC packs included.

[KingBroly]

I'm going to guess a GOTY edition hits this fall for Fallout 3.

[davyd]

You achievement whores might want to hold off playing Broken Steel for a little while, there's an issue with the new achievements not appearing on your profile after you unlock them.

I unlocked a new achievement and it still shows my score for fallout as 1200/1200 and my total gamerscore did not go up at all. Glad I have a save right before I unlocked it.

[KingBroly]

So...why do the bug testers at Bethesda still have jobs at this point? Assuming of course they had bug testers to begin with.

[darthbudge]

So, I just got done downloading Broken Steel. Will I need to redownload it once they fix it? Or just download a patch? I really don't want to have redownload all of it again.

I still am in the process of playing through Operation Anchorage and then I need to play through The Pitt and the last few story missions before I would get into Broken Steel.

[Scorch]

*crosses fingers* pleaseuploadtherightbuildpleaseuploadtherightbuild

Dammit.

Why can't they release DLC without any problems!?

[tankass]

Dammit.

Why can't they release DLC without any problems!?

This is why you wait for the GOTY edition to release. I actually sold mine after beating it (keeping the LE content of course) and am just gonna pick that edition up when they iron out all the bugs.

[LinkinPrime]

Hmmm...I'll wait till the bugs clear...here's another one reported from Kotaku:

Xbox 360 users are experiencing a nasty bug that keeps them from activating Project Purity.

[Scorch]

Hmmm...I'll wait till the bugs clear...here's another one reported from Kotaku:

"Another" bug? That's the only one that I've read about.

[tiredfornow]

You'll have to excuse my friend up there.. he's a little slow.

I want to go home and buy this, but I don't want any buggies in my game. >:[

[LinkinPrime]

"Another" bug? That's the only one that I've read about.

Someone just mentioned an achievement bug a few posts up.

TFN, I waited a while to play this game, there was already a few updates when I first started up, I haven't ran into anything major besides getting stuck in a booth or the sky turning black during the day...I'm sure if any issues arise they'll patch it up again shortly, since I haven't even finished the game yet (still at level 10) I can wait.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yep. This is great...

[tiredfornow]

Someone just mentioned an achievement bug a few posts up.

TFN, I waited a while to play this game, there was already a few updates when I first started up, I haven't ran into anything major besides getting stuck in a booth or the sky turning black during the day...I'm sure if any issues arise they'll patch it up again shortly, since I haven't even finished the game yet (still at level 10) I can wait.I didn't run into any glitches during the main story/OA/The Pitt, so I'm cool with that. I have my save right before the last mission now and I'm capped at 20. MAYBE I'LL JUST WAIT ANOTHER DAY TO BUY BROKEN STEEL IF THATS OKAY WITH YOU, MR. MICKEYTRON.

[LinkinPrime]

I didn't run into any glitches during the main story/OA/The Pitt, so I'm cool with that. I have my save right before the last mission now and I'm capped at 20. MAYBE I'LL JUST WAIT ANOTHER DAY TO BUY BROKEN STEEL IF THATS OKAY WITH YOU, MR. MICKEYTRON.

Dude calm down. Buy whatever you want...in fact buy one for me too :D

[gunm]

Well, I guess I'm waiting a little longer to pick this one up, then. I'm not really all that interested in every piece of DLC this game is going to offer, so no need for me to wait for a GOTY.

[seanr1221]

I'm gonna buy the Pitt and BS. By the time I'm finished with the Pitt I'm sure BS will be fixed.

[Rei no Otaku]

I've been playing Broken Steel. Luckily I haven't run into any bugs so far. I've been getting achievements, and was able to activate Project Purity fine.

[gunm]

I'm hearing the bugs were for the PC version primarily and it was a Windows Live problem?

[Scorch]

Someone just mentioned an achievement bug a few posts up.

Right, but I hardly call that a game breaking bug that would prevent someone from buying it. The inability to activate Project Purity is the game breaking only bug I've heard about so far that would prevent someone from buying it.

[davyd]

Not being able to activate project purity is the result of not downloading the most recent update. This happens when you download the DLC and then start up Fallout 3 after disconnecting from live. If you start up the game while still connected you will download the update and all will be well.

I guess the achievement issue is a microsoft problem, and not a fault of bethesda.

[sotc1988]

I made a separate save before starting up the dlc. Figured something like this could happen but so far I haven't experienced any glitches and am enjoying going around the wasteland in my rocking new armor.
EDIT: Nevermind, didn't get my achievements. Will wait until they fix it and play my other games. Sucks but not as big a deal as the pitt's problems because at least those who don't care about achievements will have fun.

[seanr1221]

Are the achievement issues wide-spread?

[Brak]

Right, but I hardly call that a game breaking bug that would prevent someone from buying it. The inability to activate Project Purity is the game breaking only bug I've heard about so far that would prevent someone from buying it.
Why do you do this in every thread?

[gunm]

Are the achievement issues wide-spread?



Hard to tell because there are so many separate threads on the Bethesda forums about DLC issues, I don't wanna spend hours sorting through it all. It sounds like only (a) certain achievement (s) Death From Above was the one I saw mentioned the most so far is/are affected. Doesn't sound like all the DLC's achievements are broken as of this writing.

That, and people are complaining about freezing, not being able to interact with certain NPCs, not being able visit certain places. It's a kind of a mess right now, so if you're really concerned, I'd just wait it out a couple of days.