Fallout 3 - Gen. Discussion & Info - 'GOTY' Edition w/All 5 DLC Packs 10.13.09

[jaydepps]

Picked up Point Lookout 2 days ago from Gamestop. Comes with a card that you can just enter the code from.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Can't fucking wait for tomorrow. I simply keep playing this. It's just so damn good. I'm trying to collect as much crap as I can, just for the hell of it.

[cdietschrun]

I just want to make sure, but you can share the DLC by shipwreck's marketplace content method correct?

[FoxHoundADAM]

I just want to make sure, but you can share the DLC by shipwreck's marketplace content method correct?
That meathod should work for everything, although I haven't tried it with DLC yet.

[smarkbran]

I'm excited to hear what people think about this dlc...hope its worth the price especially since I am about to get broken steel finally

[square king]

Just picked up F3 recently. I loved the previous two and I'm in love with the third so far. Can't wait to get to the DLC.

[dabebop]

Just got it after a minute or two of time going by you just get a message telling you that a riverboat just docked, so no getting distress calls or whatever. I hope this is bug free since I skipped out on getting the other 3 dlc on day one and they just had issues where you had to re download them again.

[wakawakawa]

Bought this online. Going to start a new evil char to mop up the rest of the achievements. My lvl 30 character + Fawkes are essentially invincible (on very hard) with tens of thousands of caps, so I think it would be a little boring playing Point Lookout with him.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, against my better judgment, I downloaded this already. I know some of the previous DLC had some major bugs at first, but oh well. If that's the case, I'll just download it again when they fix it. I happen to be off today, so I figured I'd give it a whirl right away.

[drktrpr1]

Is this worth the 10 bucks? I want to know before I drop my hard-earned MS points!

[SynGamer]

Can't wait for the GotY edition. 4 DLC packs is going to be awesome to play through.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, so far, so good. I like Tobar the Ferryman. The map looks like it's of a pretty decent size. And most importantly, my 360 hasn't exploded, yet.

[n00bie]

Can't wait for the GotY edition. 4 DLC packs is going to be awesome to play through.

It'll be 5, won't it?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, more good news. No glitches so far, and I have finished the first quest. And the achievement popped up without any issues, too.

[Bavgate]

Only sort of glitch I've had so far was a disappearing location triangle on the radar when walking toward an undiscovered location. Probably not spoilers, but I'll mark them just in case.

It was for Lil' Tyke Playhouse. If anyone else is having trouble finding it, just go to Grower's Shack and walk straight east. Find the playground and that's the spot.

[PhrostByte]

Not bad thus far. :D

[seanr1221]

Can you return to the Wasteland, or do you have to finish all the mission in PL first?

[Bavgate]

You can return anytime you want.

Just finished it. Took roughly seven hours. Pretty good since I got through the other DLC add-ons pretty quickly.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Wow, seven hours? Not bad at all, in my opinion. My only disappointment with this one is that it doesn't seem to really add any cool equipment. The DB shotgun is a pretty cool novelty, but I stopped using it after a few minutes.

[Bavgate]

Yeah, there weren't any kick ass equips that I could see myself using later on. The main quests were insanely fun though. Especially the second one! Freakin' crazyyyyyyyy.

For clarification, there are thirty locations if you're going for the achievement. Maybe one more, but thirty was the amount I counted.

[bigdaddybruce44]

The lever-action rifle (and its unique variant, the Backwater Rifle) is actually pretty good. I didn't realized it uses 10mm rounds. Not bad. Still, considering all of the powerful crap I have, I'll probably just mess around with it for awhile.

[tiredfornow]

Just got to Lookout with a level 6 character. :lol:

We'll see how this goes.

[Scorch]

I really dig Point Lookout, if only because it's a change of scenery (Note: I didn't download The Pitt.. I'm sure I will sometime soon). OA was really short and I only downloaded Broken Steel last night, so PL is pretty cool. I spent at least two hours just exploring it before I even did any of the main quests. I wish there were more random objects laying around instead of the usual. I love the Lever-Action rifle.

One funny thing I've seen so far.. in one of the motel rooms, there's two skeletons there with a ton of pre-war money. Someone totally robbed a bank and tried to retreat to PL :lol:

One of the saddest things in Fallout I've seen is behind the mansion on a park bench overlooking the ocean. There's a skeleton hunched over a baby carriage. There's a toy car, a teddy bear, a few empty whiskey bottles, and a 10mm pistol :cry: There's also a small group of flowers, possibly the first I've seen in Fallout.

[mission42]

Done with Lookout already. Main story was pretty short like the others were. There is a good bit of content there though that I still have to go back and go through, that and maybe play through a couple parts to see the other options. Overall well worth it I think, better than Operation Anchorage or The Pitt...as good as Broken Steel.

[bigdaddybruce44]

One funny thing I've seen so far.. in one of the motel rooms, there's two skeletons there with a ton of pre-war money. Someone totally robbed a bank and tried to retreat to PL :lol:

LOL! Not only that, but there is blood by each skeleton, so it looks like they probably ended up arguing over the money and killed each other.

[yukafls]

I love this content more than any of the others, is definitely awesome. The Chinese spy sidequest was fun

[ilivas]

I finished lookout, I got all the achievements as well. Spy mission was cool. I didn't really like it as much as broken steel or the pitt.

[destinywaste]

Got a lot on my plate right now.. will surely pick this up early next month.

@ilivas: is this about the same length as the other DLCs?

[wampa8jedi]

I didn't have time to finish this last night, but already, IMO...

Broken Steel > Point Lookout >>>> Operation Anchorage > The Pitt

[wakawakawa]

One funny thing I've seen so far.. in one of the motel rooms, there's two skeletons there with a ton of pre-war money. Someone totally robbed a bank and tried to retreat to PL :lol:

One of the saddest things in Fallout I've seen is behind the mansion on a park bench overlooking the ocean. There's a skeleton hunched over a baby carriage. There's a toy car, a teddy bear, a few empty whiskey bottles, and a 10mm pistol :cry: There's also a small group of flowers, possibly the first I've seen in Fallout.

One of my favorite things about Fallout is how they can tell a story with dead bodies and objects. They can set up a small camp and explain who the people were and how they died with objects. I really wish they would have created more misc objects (like you said), because they could have done a lot more.

The hunters you run across the wasteland sell strange meat. I thought it was a bug, since strange meat is human flesh. But you can actually see the hunters attacking lone wastelanders for food. So the strange meat in their inventory is hinting that they are cannibals. They also have some dialogue that hints at this as well.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I always love the little shelters you find via the radio signals. I felt so bad when you hear the broadcast of the guy asking for medical assistance for his son.

Another nice touch was the the terminal entries in the Dunwich Building...

[ilivas]

Got a lot on my plate right now.. will surely pick this up early next month.

@ilivas: is this about the same length as the other DLCs?

I'd say it's a little shorter. The "find all 40 locations achievement" took awhile, but it's a lame achievement. It's just busy work.

[cdietschrun]

In case anyone was curious, gamesharing this with my friend worked fine.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Finding all of the locations is fairly easily, as long as you are doing all of the quests on the map. You'll either be going to most of them for the quests, or else they are pretty close to where you are going.

[ilivas]

Finding all of the locations is fairly easily, as long as you are doing all of the quests on the map. You'll either be going to most of them for the quests, or else they are pretty close to where you are going.

Oh, I only did the main quest, and the chinese spy quest. After that, I ran around with my chinese stealth invisi-armor and ran towards all the hollow triangles.

[tiredfornow]

I wish they wouldn't have put 50+ Confederate Hats in the damn mansion and had some nicer outfits or something instead. My character looks nice wearing one, though. 8-)

The hicks are too funny lookin', too. I hate the double barrel shotgun, but it does some really nice damage in close quarters.

[ilivas]

I didn't like the weapons as much, but the little short range scrambler thing is kind of cool. I use still use the weapons, and armor from the other DLCs like the chinese stealth armor, winterized t51b armor, tesla cannon, and tri-beam laser rifle.

There's a lot of mesmer-whatever ammo which is good since I killed every person in paradise falls to get my kill 300 people achievement. Come to think of it, I killed everyone in every town.

[gunm]

Debating whether to pick up PL and OA/TP DLCs w/points or DLC cards from Amazon. I'm leaning towards the latter, but I just wish the Amazon $5 off promo applied to these...

[PhrostByte]

I really think that Point Lookout is the best DLC yet.. the sheer amount of story packed into it is amazing.. all this in one's months worth of development? WOW! My favorite mission was actually the Chinese spy mission, since you learned a lot about the covert side of the Great War.

In my opinion, Point Lookout > Broken Steel > Operation Anchorage > The Pitt.

Looking forward to #5!

[bigdaddybruce44]

Technically, it would be the covert side of the Resource Wars. The Great War is only the two hour period on October 23rd, 2077, during which the bombs fell.

Considering the sheer amount of penetration the Chinese had into America, though, it really makes you wonder if it was the US that triggered the Great War. In the main game, you have a building full of Chinese operatives at Mama Dolce's, you have a radio broadcast of Chinese propaganda, and you have other various Chinese troops (likely detached from MD's) scattered all across the waste. And now, Point Lookout just adds even more fuel to that fire.

[Spybreak8]

I stopped playing a while ago because I got stuck after getting outnumbered right when I entered an area so I pretty much hard a trial and error frustration fit. Well decided to start up again and sure enough the same thing happened to me, jesus. I barely got away and my last save was 4 hours ago so I had to use my autosave and just luck out with like 34 hp. The game is great when it works.

[foxdvd]

I found Point Lookout to be a bit disappointing. It is the first of the DLC for Fallout 3 to have me feeling like I did not get my moneys worth. I would rank them in this order....Broken Steel, The Pitt, Operation Anchorage, and Point Lookout. I really think this should have been 5 bucks or so. It was by FAR the shortest of the DLC, even Operation Anchorage took me longer to finish. I think there might be one or more side quests I have not done yet, and Operation Anchorage really was a linear experiance, but this was dissapointing. To get all achievments I think it took me maybe 2 hours tops.

That being said, there was one moment, and anyone who has played it knows what I am talking about, that was truly a mind fuck of a moment. Almost made it worth the 10 bucks.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Did you do the Velvet Curtain side quest? It's got some meat to it and added some interesting stuff to the overall story of the Fallout universe, in my opinion. I also kind of enjoyed the Dark Heart of Blackhall, just because I felt really bad when I found Marcella was murdered. I also liked how they tied that into Jamie and the Dunwich Building.

[foxdvd]

Did you do the Velvet Curtain side quest? It's got some meat to it and added some interesting stuff to the overall story of the Fallout universe, in my opinion. I also kind of enjoyed the Dark Heart of Blackhall, just because I felt really bad when I found Marcella was murdered. I also liked how they tied that into Jamie and the Dunwich Building.


Yes I did the Velvet Curtain, but I did not do Dark Heart of Blackhall....Velvet Curtain was sort of fun, but predictable....

[perdition(troy]

Is the dlc pack (pitt and anchorage) actually worth it?

[$hady]

Anchorage wasn't very good, I regret buying it at release. Haven't played the rest...

[perdition(troy]

I am just considering getting the disk that has them both on it for 13 used at GS.

[moojuice]

Anchorage was worth it for me for the practically indestructible items since I just didn't like managing my equipment.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Definitely. OA has the best equipment you can get in the game. The Winterized T-51b Power Armor has great stats and insane item HP (over 1 million, whereas standard Power Armor has 1000). The Chinese Stealth Suit is considered game-breaking by some, because you can allegedly run right up to people in daylight, and they still won't see you. I never used it, though, so I can't comment. Jingwei's Shock Sword is a pretty sick melee weapon, too. I think the only one that is better is the Shishkebab combined with the Pyro perk.

[foxdvd]

I am just considering getting the disk that has them both on it for 13 used at GS.


Can you download this and then take it right back to GS for a refund?

[perdition(troy]

Can you download this and then take it right back to GS for a refund?

Wow, I completely forgot I could do that. You just made my day.

[Nebenator]

Can you download this and then take it right back to GS for a refund?
How? If it's used, won't the code already be taken? :?:

[wakawakawa]

I'm mostly done with Point Lookout. It's good. It's mostly exploration and interesting quests. You get some new weapons, which are cool, but the other DLCs had better weapons. I don't think there's a doctor there, which is annoying if you have addictions.

I would imagine it would take most people between 5-8 hours to do the quests and get all the achievements. If you just did the quests with achievements and didn't go to all the locations (or do the other quests), you would probably spend around 3-4 hours.

Each of the DLCs has been very different. My least favorite one was anchorage. I actually really liked the Outcast part at the beginning and end. It has a super mutant fight similar to the GNR one. I didn't think the simulation itself was that interesting though.

[AshesofWake]

so when i first played Fallout 3, pretty much the first thing i did was blow up megaton city, leading me not no where to find my father, which lead me to wander around the wasteland, aimlessly creating all sorts of adventures for myself and eventually going to Rivet city to finish the game, i spent 40 hours with that character so far and it was awesome.


yesterday i started a new character and decided to be good, and omg, how much new crap i missed for blowing up megaton LOL, i feel like im experiencing the game for the first time again, its a whole new experience. god i love this game.

[graf1k]

Is the dlc pack (pitt and anchorage) actually worth it?

I think they were all worth it, but then again I'm pretty much nuts about Fallout 3. Out of the 4 packs thus far, I'd say The Pitt is my least favorite just because half the 5 hours or so I put into it was spent looking for the steel ingots. Broken Steel wasn't all that hot either in my opinion, except for the fact that it ups the level cap and lets you continue playing, but the actual missions weren't that interesting for me. Still, it's the one DLC you can bring Fawkes with you. My favorites were Operation Anchorage and Point Lookout. Both places are much different than anything else in the game and like others have said, the loot from Anchorage is insane. I haven't even messed with the armor, but the Chinese sneak suit is borderline cheating if you already have a high sneak. I also thought the mission was pretty fun. Point Lookout actually kind of sucks in the way of loot, but it also has the most new stuff to do of the four I'd say and I thought the side mission "The Velvet Curtain" is one of the better ones in the whole game. I just wish they had included more missions with it because it almost seems kind of wasteful with such a big area. Can't wait for Mothership Zeta now.

[perdition(troy]

Thanks to you guys I ended up getting the DCL pack. Great buy, thanks guys.

[miktau]

Can you download this and then take it right back to GS for a refund?

Just beat broken steel and am looking to try the others. Does buying the expansion disk at gs and then downloading it work or do you need to have the expansions disk in the slot to play.

[crzyjoeguy]

Just beat broken steel and am looking to try the others. Does buying the expansion disk at gs and then downloading it work or do you need to have the expansions disk in the slot to play.

you install the disc on your 360, and then you run off of the fallout 3 disc, so you dont use the dlc disc

[Sharp Katana]

just beat point lookout tonight. It was pretty boring imo, the weapons are so so. Broken steel and the pitt were much better.

[miktau]

you install the disc on your 360, and then you run off of the fallout 3 disc, so you dont use the dlc disc

Yeah I did just that then sold the disk on ebay for more than I paid, Winnar imo.

[LinkinPrime]

Mothership Zeta - 800pts - 8/3/09
Description:

Defy hostile alien abductors and fight your way off of the massiveMothership Zeta, orbiting Earth miles above the Capital Wasteland. Mothership Zeta takes Fallout 3 in an entirely new direction – outer space. Meet new characters and join with them in a desperate bid to escape the Aliens’ clutches. To do so, you’ll wield powerful new weapons, like the Alien Atomizer, Alien Disintegrator, and Drone Cannon, and deck yourself out in brand new outfits, like the Gemini-Era Spacesuit and even Samurai Armor.
Story:

A strange Alien signal is being broadcast throughout the Capital Wasteland, originating from a crashed UFO. Is it a distress call, or something far more sinister? That question is answered when you find yourself beamed aboard an enormous Alien spacecraft, with only one alternative – to fight your way to the bridge of the ship and secure your escape.
Key Features:



Find and exploit new and destructive alien technology, like the Alien Atomizer and Drone Cannon.
Explore the vast Mothership and learn the secrets of the Aliens’ master plan.
Thwart the Aliens’ attempt to stop your escape, and take over the Alien ship before it wreaks havoc on the unsuspecting Earth below.
Fight against the Alien Invaders, their robot drones, and turn their own horrible experiments against them.
Ally yourself with an unexpected array of characters, both from the Capital Wasteland and from Earth ’s past.


http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/info/zeta.html

[Stu_sjb137]

The Zeta DLC looks great! Can't wait to try out the new alien weapons. I'm working my way through the operation anchorage DLC that I picked up during the discount week. Any suggestions on which DLC to grab next? I only have OA but plan on getting them all eventually.

[Yanksfan]

Man, they have really turned Fallout 3 into a freakin machine. I haven't picked it up since Operation Anchorage came out, but I have been following each release. I think they are a little overpriced @ $10 a month myself, but I am wondering how much longer I can have the willpower to say no.

[bigdaddybruce44]

The "Earth's past" comment really have me intrigued. Do the aliens have famous people in stasis or cloned? What if I get to give the Lincoln Repeater to...Lincoln?!?! Mind = blown.

[SynGamer]

Man, they have really turned Fallout 3 into a freakin machine. I haven't picked it up since Operation Anchorage came out, but I have been following each release. I think they are a little overpriced @ $10 a month myself, but I am wondering how much longer I can have the willpower to say no.

I'm waiting for a game of the year edition. 2-disc's, Disk 1 = the full original game, Disk 2 = all DLC and some commentary and such. I'll gladly pay $60 for that.

[PhrostByte]

Definitely looking forward to Mothership Zeta... I don't think $10 is too much to ask for monthly episodes. Don't WoW players pay more than that?

I'm thinking I might sell the game after MZ comes out.. unless there's more DLC to come.

[bvharris]

Newest DLC looks great. I really need to play through Fallout 3 again, I finished the game when it first came out and haven't picked it up for any of the DLC. I'll probably just do it all in one shot at this point.

[gunm]

wow, they are now releasing DLC faster than I can finish the last one!

I don't think I'll get Zeta right away, unless it is really well received as I still have to finish Point Lookout.

[freshzen]

The DLCs all seem pretty short and barely worth $10 to me. After OA I'm not paying to download any more, OA was a huge let down, even at $5 I would have been disappointed. I'm waiting for the Broken Steel/Point Lookout disc release next month to play those. I'll probably wait for the GOTY release or another DLC disc release for Zeta. I wonder if that will be the last one, the GOTY is supposed to come out in October right? Not leaving much time to release another one after Zeta and still fit it on the GOTY release.

[LinkinPrime]

Amazon has the 'Mothership Zeta' code for pre-order:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51acC0%2BkyHL._SL500_AA280_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-Downloadable-Content-Mothership-Xbox-360/dp/B002EZOC94/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1247609611&sr=1-20)

They say it releases on 7/28

[Scorch]

I really love Fallout. As long as they put out DLC, I'll keep buyin to support them in hopes that they'll release even more DLC.

[Stu_sjb137]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Fallout: New Vegas?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1002811p1.html
Thoughts?

Edit: tired and lazy, Ignore this

[LinkinPrime]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Fallout: New Vegas?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1002811p1.html
Thoughts?

Ahem...http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222027&highlight=Fallout ;)

[Stu_sjb137]

Whoops, totally missed it, thanks!

[Ink.So.Well.]

Zeta had better kick ass if it is indeed the final DLC as the website states. I plan on buying BS, PL and Pitt later this month. Although Anchorage was a huge disappointment to me the glitches more than paid for it. Near indestructible Gauss Rifle for the fucking win.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I'm pretty excited for New Vegas, even though we'll be waiting quite some time for it. I trust Obsidian to put out a good RPG, and the setting should allow for potential interaction with some interesting factions from past games, like the New California Republic and the West Coast Brotherhood.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Any tips on how to secure Firelance or is it pure luck based? This random event is absolutely infuriating. For some reason in my game it loves spawning between Oasis and Old Olney making it nearly impossible to find or grab having landed on inaccessible cliffs, highways and crevasses. Sending Dogmeat the Moronic Mutt to search for it is a guaranteed failure. The last spawn just happened five f*cking minutes ago and guess where his indicator ended up after waiting three in game days for his return? INSIDE the damn Deathclaw Sanctuary.

Help... please? ;'(

[bardockkun]

Just finished all the expansions up to date and so far my order has to be

Point Lookout>Broken Steel>The Pitt>Operation Anchorage.

Point Lookout just had a more fun (and interesting) location and was a nice break from the usual Wasteland adventuring. Especially the plank of Herzog Zwei mine where you would see someone walk away from the plank then disappear or find a dead body. That or first time coming across the "locals" at the bridge and seeing that you're surrounded by them and learning how friggin fast they are (and how VATS kinda goes against you in this case). Though now I need Zeta so I have an excuse to play it again and get to level 30 because I've basically discovered all the locations in the game up to now and got all the bobbleheads.

[Razzuel]

Any tips on how to secure Firelance or is it pure luck based? This random event is absolutely infuriating. For some reason in my game it loves spawning between Oasis and Old Olney making it nearly impossible to find or grab having landed on inaccessible cliffs, highways and crevasses. Sending Dogmeat the Moronic Mutt to search for it is a guaranteed failure. The last spawn just happened five f*cking minutes ago and guess where his indicator ended up after waiting three in game days for his return? INSIDE the damn Deathclaw Sanctuary.

Help... please? ;'(

Since I have the PC version, I was able to add the Firelance to my inventory. After using it for a little bit I realized that the Alien Blaster is far superior to the Firelance. Whenever I use the Alien Blaster, almost every enemy gets turned to dust with one shot, while the Firelance took three or four shots—well I am not exactly sure how worse the Firelance was, since it has been a while since I tested it out, but I do remember it not being worth it.

I know that doesn't help you find the Firelance, but I thought I should just let you know how it compared to the Alien Blaster.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Nah, I appreciate the heads up since from what I've read the Firelance is supposedly superior to the Alien Blaster which I already have. I honestly have no need for the weapon since Cross, Fawkes and Dogmeat kill whatever I can't crit. headshot with one of my rifles. I just wanted to try it out and add it to my collection. I wasn't planning on using it exclusively given the rarity of its ammo.

I'm curious... what were your Eng. Weapon stats and the condition of the weapon when you spawned it?

[bigdaddybruce44]

The base damage of the Firelance is less than the Alien Blaster, but the Firelance is a fire-based weapon, so the Pyro perk boosts it over the Alien Blaster.

[Razzuel]

Nah, I appreciate the heads up since from what I've read the Firelance is supposedly superior to the Alien Blaster which I already have. I honestly have no need for the weapon since Cross, Fawkes and Dogmeat kill whatever I can't crit. headshot with one of my rifles. I just wanted to try it out and add it to my collection. I wasn't planning on using it exclusively given the rarity of its ammo.

I'm curious... what were your Eng. Weapon stats and the condition of the weapon when you spawned it?

I have no idea what my energy weapon stats were at the time; it has been a while, haha. However, whenever you spawn a weapon it spawns at 100% condition. Basically, whenever why Alien Blaster starts getting a low condition, I just spawn a new one. A while ago I also spawned a thousand something Alien Powercells, so that I wouldn't need to worry about ammo. :D

[Ink.So.Well.]

Ugh. Damn you lucky CPU playing bastards and your spawning any weapon in perfect condition w/ infinite ammo. ;'(

As for the Pyro perk I was never interested most of the flame based weapons so I never got it. Good to know I can finally flake out on searching for the damn thing. Thanks. ^_^

P.S. - Is OA the only DLC where your companions can not accompany you? The reason I ask is because I plan to ditch them for the remaining expansions except BS. I'm tired of babysitting and I'll be struggling for EXP with those three bloodhounds raping everything in sight. ;(

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, my first play through, I never cared for any of the fire-based weapons, either. My second time, though, I decided to try different weapons to keep things interesting. The Shishkebab is pretty sick with the Pyromaniac perk. So is the Heavy Incinerator from Broken Steel. The best part about both of them was the ability to still attack very effectively outside of VATS.

[Link927]

Anyone ever experience a glitch with the Mill Worker Achievement? Basically you cant talk to the guy you need to, to finish the quest. I basically did the original 10, then went on and finished the rest of the Pitt Story. I went back, picked up about 30, and then when I went to drop them off, all of a sudden he doesnt have any speech options. I've read that it is a known bug on Fallout Wiki, but anyone else encounter it, and any chance of..fixing it?

[bardockkun]

Anyone ever experience a glitch with the Mill Worker Achievement? Basically you cant talk to the guy you need to, to finish the quest. I basically did the original 10, then went on and finished the rest of the Pitt Story. I went back, picked up about 30, and then when I went to drop them off, all of a sudden he doesnt have any speech options. I've read that it is a known bug on Fallout Wiki, but anyone else encounter it, and any chance of..fixing it?
I Had a bug on The Pitt where when I went to the top of the Mill I would fall through the floor and die on impact. Basically I got it fixed by deleting The Pitt then re-downloading it and it was fine. My only solution I know of at least.

[wakawakawa]

P.S. - Is OA the only DLC where your companions can not accompany you? The reason I ask is because I plan to ditch them for the remaining expansions except BS. I'm tired of babysitting and I'll be struggling for EXP with those three bloodhounds raping everything in sight. ;(

You can't bring companions with you to any expansion besides broken steel. Mothership Zeta I assume will also be companion-less.

[drktrpr1]

You can't bring companions with you to any expansion besides broken steel. Mothership Zeta I assume will also be companion-less.

Yeah MZ will be companion-less. I never really played with anyone besides Dogmeat, made the game too easy, anyways though, so I'm stoked for this one.

[Link927]

I Had a bug on The Pitt where when I went to the top of the Mill I would fall through the floor and die on impact. Basically I got it fixed by deleting The Pitt then re-downloading it and it was fine. My only solution I know of at least.

Reinstalling had no effect. I saved over my older files, the earliest one I have is before I entered the Pitt. Im considering if I should only just go for the achievement on a seperate save, and continue on with my main character without the cool swag, or go through everything again in hopes that it'll work this time.

[rywateska]

I'm probably going to hold out on picking up any DLC until the GOTY version hits on October 13th...long wait :wall:

My question is: Will the GOTY version recognize the original game saves? Also, will it be a whole new slate of achievements? I know in some games such as Lost Planet and Lego Star Wars: Complete Saga it's like starting back at square one.

I'm sure someone who's played the regular and GOTY versions of Oblivion could answer this. If you've got an answer, I'd love to hear it!

[Matt Young]

With Oblivion, it recognizes it as the same game with the same achievements.

[Sharp Katana]

will the level cap be raised for MZ?

[PhrostByte]

No.

[LinkinPrime]

Mothership Zeta trailer....looks so fucking sick!!!!!

http://www.viddler.com/explore/Joystiq/videos/1520/71.54

[bardockkun]

I Think only thing that bugs me is all the tight corridors I see in the trailer. Hopefully with it being on a ship it still won't follow a super strict, linear narrative like OA.

[Scorch]

holy mother what, this comes out tomorrow!?

[screwkick]

What time will this be posted on Live?

[Link927]

What time will this be posted on Live?

I believe the marketplace is updated around 5AM EST. When MvC2 came out, it was around then and mentioned on the board too

[sotc1988]

As always be careful buying the first day.

[LeRoy]

I think it's cool how they keep expanding and updating this game. More developers should do this. I think I'll get the GOTY edition later.

[LinkinPrime]

I ordered mine through Amazon since I had store credit but for those of you waiting for XBLM it's up now:

Content: Mothership Zeta (http://marketplace.xbox.com/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802425307d5/?p=1&partner=MajorNelson&of=3&bt=0&sb=1)
Price: 800 Microsoft Points
Availability: Not available in Japan
Dash Text: [ESRB: M (Mature) BLOOD AND GORE,INTENSE VIOLENCE,SEXUAL THEMES,STRONG LANGUAGE,USE OF DRUGS] A strange Alien signal is being broadcast throughout the Capital Wasteland, originating from a crashed UFO. Is it a distress call, or something far more sinister? That question is answered when you find yourself beamed aboard an enormous Alien spacecraft, with only one alternative – to fight your way to the bridge of the ship and secure your escape. Mothership Zeta takes Fallout 3 in an entirely new direction – outer space. Meet new characters and join with them in a desperate bid to escape the Aliens’ clutches. To do so, you’ll wield powerful new weapons, like the Alien Atomizer, Alien Disintegrator and Drone Cannon, and deck yourself out in brand new outfits, like the Gemini-Era Spacesuit and even Samurai Armor. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts (http://www.xbox.com/live/accounts).
(http://marketplace.xbox.com/games/offers/0ccf0018-0000-4000-8000-0000425307d5?cid=Majornelson&partner=MajorNelson)
Add Mothership Zeta to your Xbox 360 download queue (http://marketplace.xbox.com/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802425307d5/?p=1&partner=MajorNelson&of=3&bt=0&sb=1)
This content is also available for the Games for Windows version of Fallout 3.

[bigdaddybruce44]

So, any impressions, guys? Point Lookout actually worked relatively well on day one, so I hope the same is the case here. Wanna buy this when I get home later.

[yukafls]

its ok so far, just ok

[seanr1221]

How many hours are you into it?

[yukafls]

on the ship already, and am tryin to find a way up to the top of the craft. Its big so far but reminds me of being in raven rock but more......alien

[Ink.So.Well.]

Is it wrong of me to feel apprehensive toward buying MZ until an extensive Wiki detailing its specific glitches and exploits pops up? >_>

[Scorch]

lol. the first thing it said when i got abducted.. "you don't feel as lucky anymore".. nice.

just started playing it.. sad that it's the last dlc!

[FluxDF]

Its the last DLC? Until Vegas comes out, then I'm sure it will have plenty as well.

[LinkinPrime]

Yup, Bethesda has confirmed that this is the last DLC for Fallout 3.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm liking it a lot so far.

[screwkick]

Anyone else get the glitch after the spacewalk on the way to the bridge where the doors won't open? Please help. Sally won't come and open the door for me...:cry:

[sotc1988]

It's okay. A lot of just wandering hallways and killing a ton of the same enemies. My favorite part of Fallout 3 has always been the dialogue driven choices and it seems like none of that is present here. The visuals are cool but the new weapons aren't worth anything.

[yukafls]

It's okay. A lot of just wandering hallways and killing a ton of the same enemies. My favorite part of Fallout 3 has always been the dialogue driven choices and it seems like none of that is present here. The visuals are cool but the new weapons aren't worth anything.

I like the dialogue as well. Thought it was funny that when you are breakin out of the cell you can say maybe my friend might show up(mysterious stranger)

I finished it and it was ok. Weapons are fun, but too many hallways and killin the same alien.

[IceBlueShoes]

Prob. a stupid q, but I'll ask anyways, since I've only played Fallout3 a few hours, but is the game still playable after you finish it and the expansions?
I know you can't go past lv30 but can you go around and finish up any sidequests though?
Thanks!

[seanr1221]

Prob. a stupid q, but I'll ask anyways, since I've only played Fallout3 a few hours, but is the game still playable after you finish it and the expansions?
I know you can't go past lv30 but can you go around and finish up any sidequests though?
Thanks!

If you have Broken Steel downloaded, you have nothing to worry about.

However, if you do not have Broken Steel downloaded, you must have a separate save before the final mission. If you don't, there is a point of no return and you'll be stuck.

[Mr Dude65]

Anybody else fall into a blue "wonderland" and have the game freeze? Honestly, I should have waited, but what I've played so far is incredible!! I love the disintigrator. Its so awesome!!! 49 damage!! Plus, you'll never run out of ammo!!!!!!!!!!

[Scorch]

Well, I beat it.

Is it worth it? Honestly, no. Some of the alien weapons are awesome (the drone cannon is great against machines), but the expansion is VERY short, VERY, VERY repetitive, and there's not much in the way of scenery. The new age spaceship gets pretty old quickly. With all of the lights and stuff everywhere, it's really hard to tell what you can interact with.. thankfully they've added a little hologram above interactable objects. There's only four or five different enemy types.

Anyway, it wasn't too much fun, but at the same time, I don't regret purchasing it.. if that even makes sense.

I've only played OA, Point Lookout and Zeta so far.. I have BS but I haven't done any quests (are there any? or does it just extend the level cap to 30 and let you keep playing after you beat it?). No Pitt yet. I'd rank OA last, Zeta 2nd and PL first. OA would be first in terms of items you can get.. the chinese stealth suit is great.. but Zeta wasn't that great, especially after playing Point Lookout. Zeta should've been released before PL.

In terms of glitches, I had a few.. none of which are game breaking.:

A raider was hanging out of his cyro chamber.
When I targeted an alien, it said my name instead of Alien at the bottom.
The captain's quarters became a frame rate nightmare, and I could see through enemies and allies' heads.

Other than that, it was.. meh.

[Hydro2Oxide]

One more month and I get my precious GotY version.

[Scorch]

One more month and I get my precious GotY version.

October is two months away, homie. October 13th is the date.

[bardockkun]

I've only played OA, Point Lookout and Zeta so far.. I have BS but I haven't done any quests (are there any? or does it just extend the level cap to 30 and let you keep playing after you beat it?). No Pitt yet. I'd rank OA last, Zeta 2nd and PL first. OA would be first in terms of items you can get.. the chinese stealth suit is great.. but Zeta wasn't that great, especially after playing Point Lookout. Zeta should've been released before PL.

Broken Steel has quests. Basically go to the citadel to get started on them. To be honest it isn't anywhere near the quality of Point Lookout and really doesn't add that much storyline wise besides kill some more Enclave. I Do agree though that PL is the best one of all the DLC, just the environments and locals make it worth it. That and it also helps to show that the game really does best in open environments as opposed to closed corridors.

Well, looks like Zeta I'll just get if it ever gets a sale on Marketplace.

[Matt Young]

I just came back to the game, and I now have The Pitt and Operation Anchorage due to the disc conga. I'm a n00b when it comes to DLC, so I have a couple questions:

1) Can all sidequests be done if I finish the regular game and then later purchase the DLC which raises the level cap? Same with other DLC. Can that be played after I finish the main game, so long as I purchase Broken Steel?

2) Which should be played first- Op. Anchorage or The Pitt? I'm slightly below level 16, and I just finished "The American Dream"- the second to last story mission. I'm 33 hours into the game, not that that matters.

[crzyjoeguy]

I just came back to the game, and I now have The Pitt and Operation Anchorage due to the disc conga. I'm a n00b when it comes to DLC, so I have a couple questions:

1) Can all sidequests be done if I finish the regular game and then later purchase the DLC which raises the level cap? Same with other DLC. Can that be played after I finish the main game, so long as I purchase Broken Steel?

2) Which should be played first- Op. Anchorage or The Pitt? I'm slightly below level 16, and I just finished "The American Dream"- the second to last story mission. I'm 33 hours into the game, not that that matters.

i say purchase broken steel before you hit level 20, otherwise you wont gain anymore levels, and if you beat the game before you buy broken steel, you will NOT be able to go back to play other missions (unless you make a seperate save file), broken steel adds that feature though. imo broken steel is the only one so far to be worth $10 and is my favorite dlc out of the 3 i have (i dont have the 2 new ones)
and i say play the dlc in order of when they were released, but it really dosnt matter what order you play them in.

[Rei no Otaku]

I think Point Lookout is well worth it as well. There's a lot of content in it.

[crzyjoeguy]

I think Point Lookout is well worth it as well. There's a lot of content in it.

yeah i want to get that, but i only have 400 points left and i dont have the cash to buy any right now. but that looks interesting, i want m.z also, but not as much as point lookout:-#

[Panther1484]

I wish the aiens would of had the energy weapons and strength bobbleheads for those who missed them. It would of been a nice touch by Bethesda and could of cut those who have supported the DLC with a bonus. I had to start a new game so I could try to get the CEO achievement...

[Matt Young]

Thanks for the opinions, but I'm still uncertain- If I finish the main quest before getting Broken Steel, can I still continue from that point, or do I need to have broken Steel before I finish the final mission?

[Ink.So.Well.]

Hmm... I guess I'm the only one who thoroughly enjoyed Zeta. I thought it was solid and fell absolutely in love with the Disintegrator rifle and Novasurge pistol after snagging the Xenotech Expert perk. After taking another run for the captive recordings achievement I'm probably going to book and bobblehead hunt for better stats, mop up any Behemoths I missed and start BS. Brilliant game is brilliant.

Matt: You need to have downloaded BS before you beat the game because you can't continue on from that point without it. You'll have to either reload a previous save from your original game or start a new game. The BS DLC is the only way you can continue playing the game after beating the last main quest without having to start a new game. If you have any left over business or side quests to take care of I'd suggest you forget about touching the last main quest until you've downloaded the DLC.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I'll agree with just about everyone else and say that Zeta is fairly ho-hum. I can't even get myself to finish it, and I love this game. The interesting characters and the recordings is saving it from being as bad as OA.

[AshesofWake]

ill wait for a "sale"

[Jek Porkins]

Thanks for the opinions, but I'm still uncertain- If I finish the main quest before getting Broken Steel, can I still continue from that point, or do I need to have broken Steel before I finish the final mission?

You can go ahead and finish it without getting Broken Steel, but make a save right before you do. When you get Broken Steel you can just start from the save right before you finished, and you'll just have to do the final run again. My save was at the Citadel just before the charge, if that's what you'd like to do as well.

I really liked Broken Steel, and I liked Point Lookout, too. Mothership Zeta was fun, but not quite as good. Be glad you got Operation Anchorage and the Pitt for free.

[aheineken]

I've thoroughly played all of the DLCs, and here's how I would rank them:

1) Broken Steel - Mainly because of the level cap increase and new perks. The quests were alright too.
2) Point Lookout - Most content of all the DLCs. Large new area to explore, plus you get to shoot hillbillies with a double barrel .
3) The Pitt - I found the storyline for the quests in "The Pitt" to be the most interesting. The mill worker achievement is a pita, but it you get some cool new toys for doing it.
4) Mothership Zeta - The concept was really nice, but I don't think they pulled it off very well. There was a lot to explore on the ship, but it all looked the same. You can go back to the ship after you're done, but only about half of it is accessible.
5) Operation Anchorage - The only one I feel wasn't worth the 800 points. It's a one time run through that takes 2 hours tops. It's somewhat interesting, because it gives you a first person look at the war before the nuclear fallout. You get a nice prize for finishing it.

[Matt Young]

Thanks Ink and RedSix . Jek, I have a save at that very spot so I should be good. I think I have something like 85 Fallout saves.

[Scorch]

I think I have something like 85 Fallout saves.

You're not alone.. I have over 200.. almost 100 hours into it. This is pretty much the only game I play anymore.

[drktrpr1]

You're not alone.. I have over 200.. almost 100 hours into it. This is pretty much the only game I play anymore.

I've easily got 150, and I think it makes the loading go so slow. Need to delete some saves. But I love this game and have kept on playing it after I 1000'd it plus the DLC. I really don't mind MZ too much, but its not as good as the others.

[Sharp Katana]

damn the alien archivist achievement. I missed it the first time because I didn't notice it until I already completed the first two quests. I tried going back but some doors were inaccessible. Just a warning to those collecting logs. Get it early on and don't miss any! You won't be able to get into some rooms once you reach the bridge.

[A Happy Panda]

So I just started the game 2 days ago and have progressed a bit but I was wondering..

I killed the Overseer...is that bad?

[bardockkun]

So I just started the game 2 days ago and have progressed a bit but I was wondering..

I killed the Overseer...is that bad?
It only makes a difference I want to say about half way through the main story when an optional quest pops up, but it doesn't take away from any of the missions (being someone will take his place).

[aheineken]

I just got 1550/1550 a few days ago. I had to go back to a save before "Trouble on the Homefront" to get the CEO achievement. I missed that damn bobblehead twice on my first playthrough.

I've got an easly 90+ hours into this game. I'm thinking about starting from the beginning and making a stealth/explosives/melee character. Should be fun and challenging...sneaking up to people and putting a grenade in their pocket, then tearing their friends up Freddy Kreuger-style with the deathclaw weapon.

[Nebenator]

Ok, so as of today I'm on the last mission of Fallout 3. I like it enough that I'd like to buy some extra content to keep the game going. I've just having trouble deciding which ones. Please reply with your suggestions!

[Moxio]

BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.

[Mr Dude65]

I agree. thats pretty much the way to go, except, if you like shooters, you may want to switch around the last three. Zeta and Anchorage are very shooter-friendly.

[jimjom]

BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.

nailed it.

Broken steel takes the cake, simply because it raises the level. lookout has plenty of stuff to discover, the pitt is a decent romp. zeta and anchorage are very linear, but enjoyable.

[Mr Dude65]

If he weren't about to finish it, I'd almost say Point Lookout first, because it fits in so well with the story.

[bardockkun]

Broken Steel only for the level cap and some of the new perks, but in my opinion BEST DLC is Point Lookout. It's a great change of pace from the usual narrow corridors and barren wasteland plus it offers so much more depth to the Fallout lore (the whereabouts of the Pint-Sized Slasher for one). That and the mutated hillbillies are freaky as hell. The only time VATS works against you because they move so damn fast to try and hit you with an axe.

[Danil ACE]

Operation Anchorage was fun. A bit short, but the Chinese stealth suit is awesome.

[MSUHitman]

BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.

Yep this is pretty much the consensus among most players.

[Nebenator]

BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.
OK, I'll probably just get the first two.

[LakersForLife82481]

You can get these with MS points right?

[Nebenator]

Yes.

[PhrostByte]

My Xbox got stolen after I put 2 hours into MZ and beat the other 4 DLCs... ugh. I was about 100 hours into the game. Fuckin junkies.

[Vulcan2422]

I wish I got BS instead of Operation Anchorage and The Pitt. Cause Now I'm at level 19 and then Capped at 20. I guess that's the next add on I will get. Is Mothership Zeta there last add on?

[shieryda]

What are the chances that we'll be able to buy the reg. edition of this game, and rent the GotY for the extra dlc to rip to the hdd?

[ChernobylCow]

What are the chances that we'll be able to buy the reg. edition of this game, and rent the GotY for the extra dlc to rip to the hdd?

I second this motion

[PINKO]

I got the first 4 dlc for free

Downloaded them from my pc and then transfered the files to my 360 harddrive

[StickyWaffles]

I started Fallout 3 a couple months ago, but strangely couldn't get into it, even though Oblivion is one of my favorite games on the 360. Started to play again a week ago, and fell in love with it. Beat the main quest in just a few days, and I started another game so that I can go back and do all of the side quests. I thought the last few hours were absolutely fantastic.Starting with the rescue of Fawkes, which was awesome and it actually made me sad when he said we couldn't hang out since people would probably kill us. Busting out of the Enclave base was really cool, although it got kind of annoying since I got lost a couple times. The twist that the President was a computer was kickass, and making him self destruct was equally cool. And then running with the Transformer was just incredible. I actually didn't notice Liberty Prime until they were activating him even though they mentioned him earlier. I sacrificed my dude at the end, which I thought was a really satisfying ending to the game. Side question: what was that statue of that was shown as you die?

From what I've read, Broken Steel and Point Lookout are the best DLCs, but I think BS sounds the best since it continues the story and raises the level cap (even though I haven't hit 20 yet). Since BS lets you continue your game now, will I be able to go back and do side quests from the game itself for achievements?

[aheineken]

I started Fallout 3 a couple months ago, but strangely couldn't get into it, even though Oblivion is one of my favorite games on the 360. Started to play again a week ago, and fell in love with it. Beat the main quest in just a few days, and I started another game so that I can go back and do all of the side quests. I thought the last few hours were absolutely fantastic.Starting with the rescue of Fawkes, which was awesome and it actually made me sad when he said we couldn't hang out since people would probably kill us. Busting out of the Enclave base was really cool, although it got kind of annoying since I got lost a couple times. The twist that the President was a computer was kickass, and making him self destruct was equally cool. And then running with the Transformer was just incredible. I actually didn't notice Liberty Prime until they were activating him even though they mentioned him earlier. I sacrificed my dude at the end, which I thought was a really satisfying ending to the game. Side question: what was that statue of that was shown as you die?

From what I've read, Broken Steel and Point Lookout are the best DLCs, but I think BS sounds the best since it continues the story and raises the level cap (even though I haven't hit 20 yet). Since BS lets you continue your game now, will I be able to go back and do side quests from the game itself for achievements?

Interesting. I'm having the opposite problem. I played Fallout 3 first..put close to 100 hours into it with all the DLC. Now, I've started Oblivion, and I'm having trouble getting into it.

To answer your question: yes, you can go back and do all the side quests after you beat the game as long as you have BS installed. I should mention that there are 2 bobbleheads that you cannot get after you've completed the game, so you might want to look that up if you're interested in getting that achievement.

[Lokki]

So I've been thinking about finally picking up Fallout 3 from Goozex. Since I'm late in getting the game, I've missed out on the discs floating around to be able to get the DLC free. I'm assuming that Gamestop is hip to the fact that you don't need the add-on discs once you install them, so they probably won't let you bring it back within the 7 days.

Would I be better off waiting for the GoTY edition, since it is out in 2 months and has all of the DLC?

[JP]

I would definitely wait for the GOTY.

[anticulture]

Wait. You can install the DLC from the retail discs, multiple times? I figured they'd have a live code tied to them to make it more restricting like a PC game. Wow. That's actually kind of cool if they kept it open like that.

Kind if wish I would've known that. I would've waited instead of buying them on XBL.


As for jumping in now: wait for the GOTY. I plan on picking up GOTY for the PS3, due to my 360 constantly dying. I had it red ring in the middle of Point Lookout. :cry:

Amazing game, if you can forgive the bugs and general lack of polish in the animations, camera and aiming. Just saying that makes me feel like a douche, but the game really is excellent, despite all of the glaring problems.

[Lokki]

Thanks for the quick feedback, that's what I figured would be the best Cheap Ass way to go. I decided to snag Tales of Vesperia from Goozex in the mean time.

[ohboy10451]

Is the mothership zeta retail package a disc or a code?

[jojoschump2000]

FYI: I have only seen the MotherShip Zeta retail as a code.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, MZ is not on any disc, yet. There is a disc for OA and Pitt and a disc for Broken Steel and PL.

[CrimsonPaw]

OK guys, I need some advice on this game. I just accepted Moira's last mission (which for me is the Library in Arlington) and for the life of me I can't get into this game. At this point I think my biggest issue is that I am constantly running out of ammo for decent guns (Plasma Rifle, Shotgun, Minigun) which is getting me my ass handed to me. I'm half way through level 7 and don't know if I can keep interest in this game. Does the ammo start to increase and do the missions get any better? If not, this game is getting traded off (which is ironic since I love Oblivion).

[Denbo32]

I'm sad, I saw this at bestbuy this weekend when I was buying batman AA and figured 10 bucks isn't bad I'll install it and trade it into gamestop for 5 bucks. Kinda like I did for the other Fallout exp packs.

It was totally my fault for not reading, but it was just a code. Ah well I would of rather of just bought it using MS points, but I'll chalk this up to impulse buying.

[shieryda]

Do people either love Oblivion and hate this game or vice-a-versa? From what I can tell, people who've played both seem to like one or the other, but not both. I know they're two different games, but it just seems a bit odd to me that way.

[JStryke]

It's been that way for me at least. What I thought was the odd part though is that I remember loving Morrowind, but something about Oblivion. I just don't know.

[LilPaintballer]

Okay, I am just about to receive this game in a trade, Im not sure if ill get that far into it before giving up because i rarely complete games. Would it make sense to get the DLC now, or its good after you finish the main objective.

[aheineken]

Do people either love Oblivion and hate this game or vice-a-versa? From what I can tell, people who've played both seem to like one or the other, but not both. I know they're two different games, but it just seems a bit odd to me that way.

I'm in that group of Fallout 3 lovers who can't seem to get into Oblivion. I'm trying to play through it, because all I hear about is how great it is, but for some reason it just seems bland and tedious after playing F3. I'm about 20 hours in, so it's not like I just started it.

[CrimsonPaw]

I'm in that group of Fallout 3 lovers who can't seem to get into Oblivion. I'm trying to play through it, because all I hear about is how great it is, but for some reason it just seems bland and tedious after playing F3. I'm about 20 hours in, so it's not like I just started it.
LOL, I think you and I have the exact same opinion about the opposite games. How about we both just agree to appreciate the game we love and stop playing the game we don't (though I can't wait for ES V).

For me, I think it's the setting. I can't get into the destroyed wasteland but I can walk through the open fields and speed-trees all day long. That and if I need to kill anything I can use my sword or arrows or magic as opposed to constantly needing to find ammo.

[aheineken]

LOL, I think you and I have the exact same opinion about the opposite games. How about we both just agree to appreciate the game we love and stop playing the game we don't (though I can't wait for ES V).

For me, I think it's the setting. I can't get into the destroyed wasteland but I can walk through the open fields and speed-trees all day long. That and if I need to kill anything I can use my sword or arrows or magic as opposed to constantly needing to find ammo.

Yeah, I guess so. :D I'm starting to get into Oblivion a little bit. I realized that the main quest is a bit more straight forward, and the unnecessary side quests are the ones that involve lots of pointless running around.

As for your question, once you get past Megaton, and open the world up a little bit, the pace really picks up and you'll start to find more ammo. There is also a perk (I can't remember what level it becomes available) that makes more ammo drop. For now your best bet is to pick up lots of stuff and sell it to buy ammo. Also, you can sell ammo for guns you don't use to buy ammo for guns you like.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, I never really had any issues with ammo. Like he said, just pick up EVERYTHING you come across and sell it.

Anyway, I am also one of those people that simply couldn't get into Oblivion. Had it on the PS3 for a short time, and I was bored to tears. Don't know why. Then, I rented the GOTY for the 360, figured I would at least give it one more try, but I never even bothered playing it.

[freshzen]

I couldn't get into Oblivion at first, I thought it was insanely choppy at the time, and after just a few hours I decided I didn't like it. I tried it again another time and advanced just 30-60 minutes and started enjoying it a bit more and after I got through the beginning I started liking it a lot. I honestly haven't played it in a while though cause the pesky thieves guild quests piss me off. It also seems to run smoother than it did a few years ago, but I could be wrong about that.

Okay, I am just about to receive this game in a trade, Im not sure if ill get that far into it before giving up because i rarely complete games. Would it make sense to get the DLC now, or its good after you finish the main objective.

You're fine playing everything in the retail game first, especially if you have problems finishing games. What is the point in wasting money on DLC if you aren't even going to beat the main quest?

[Matt Young]

Do people either love Oblivion and hate this game or vice-a-versa? From what I can tell, people who've played both seem to like one or the other, but not both. I know they're two different games, but it just seems a bit odd to me that way.

I like both.

I hope Operation Anchorage isn't glitched. I got to the end of the Lamp Post and killed everyone, but it didn't take me back to HQ. Now there's nowhere to go.

[CrimsonPaw]

OK, did the final Moira (sp?) quest to the library and ran across the Brotherhood at the Citadel .... my interest is starting to pique. I'm wondering if I just need to get the f*ck out of Megaton and do shit that's more interesting that Moira's book.

[Matt Young]

I've delayed Moira's stuff since it's so boring.

I restarted that part of Operation Anchorage from an earlier save and did the Chimera depot first, and ended up finishing the entire DLC. For some reason, when I took the power armor, it gave me the "You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head!" achievement despite the fact that I had none of the keys.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yep, that's a known bug. I guess it has something to do with both being T-51b Power Armor models.

[LilPaintballer]

Who can help me, I finally got Fallout 3, Im hooked. Honestly no game has ever drawn me back to the TV as much as this one. Im at the spot where you first meet the guy who knows where your father is and you talk to him, and gives you a side quest for 400caps. I talked the the dead guy, Gob, he said to hack into his computer, i picked the lock to his locker got the password, and now he chases me and the game auto saved. How can i get out of the fight? Or should i reload my last save

[moojuice]

Go away from the area (leaving megaton should be far enough I think), wait about three in-game days, go back in.

[aheineken]

Who can help me, I finally got Fallout 3, Im hooked. Honestly no game has ever drawn me back to the TV as much as this one. Im at the spot where you first meet the guy who knows where your father is and you talk to him, and gives you a side quest for 400caps. I talked the the dead guy, Gob, he said to hack into his computer, i picked the lock to his locker got the password, and now he chases me and the game auto saved. How can i get out of the fight? Or should i reload my last save

Alot of times when this happens you can just leave for a while, go do something else, then come back and the NPCs will be chill again.

[LilPaintballer]

I cant leave, they chase me out and shot me

Edit- I got it! Woah, this game is amazing, I never ever have been drawn to a game like this. I love how its like a shooter but has rpg elements. I thought i would like mass effect and it was no where as good as this.

Whats radiation poisoning?? I just got it probably because I was drinking water in the wasteland.

[CrimsonPaw]

... How can i get out of the fight? Or should i reload my last save
How to get out of fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVAfYb-PcRk

On a side note, I'm hoping that Moira's quests have just discouraged me because this game has everything I want out of a game .... except ammo :)

[shieryda]

How to get out of fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVAfYb-PcRk

On a side note, I'm hoping that Moira's quests have just discouraged me because this game has everything I want out of a game .... except ammo :)

Oh man. I'm crying over here! Love John C. Reilly.

[Rei no Otaku]

http://kotaku.com/5360741/free-fallout-3-premium-360-theme-for-dlc-fans

Nice. I bought all of them, so it's cool I'll be getting the theme for free.

[LinkinPrime]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/09/500x_fallouttheme.jpg

Looks sweet! I bought all, but I have yet to put my code in for Mothership Zeta...looks like I'm doing that tonight.

[shieryda]

Any more details on the GotY edition? How many discs?

[DiscoDuck8k]

Awesome! I really like that theme.

Maybe I'll finally change it from Halo 3.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Nice theme. I'll definitely be downloading that as soon as it goes live.

[crzyjoeguy]

anyone know if people that used the retail disc's get the theme?

[Ink.So.Well.]

Very impressed Bethesda decided to reward those of us who spent the hard earned cash. Great theme looks great. Although I wish every company felt that way I can certainly understand why this isn't common practice. However what I don't understand is the snide complaint of a PC player knowing full well their community has access to mods and canceled weapons us console users will never see. What a douche.

[LinkinPrime]

anyone know if people that used the retail disc's get the theme?

I don't see why not...but good point. I bought the discs myself...:-k

[crzyjoeguy]

I don't see why not...but good point. I bought the discs myself...:-k


yeah, i borrowed the disc for anchorage and point lookout, but i bought broken steel and the pitt, and i am buying zeta either tonight or tomorrow. just kind of curious to if it will work, i hope it does. if not ill stick with switching between my mass effect, gears 2, and re5 themes. kind of tired of them though. hopefully i can get it.

[Prix Dante]

I see that Bethesda has given a release date on Fallout 3 GOTY. I have waited for all of the DLC to be released before I start buying them. My question is, are all of the expansion going to be on a separate disc to purchase? Aside from the GOTY that will have it on a separate disc.

[shieryda]

Do video stores rent out the 2 add-on discs? I called a local Blockbuster here, and they had no idea what I was talking about.

Aside from the GOTY that will have it on a separate disc.

Has that been confirmed yet?

[StickyWaffles]

Do video stores rent out the 2 add-on discs? I called a local Blockbuster here, and they had no idea what I was talking about.



Has that been confirmed yet?Your avatar goes really well with your post. You're a Fallout junkie trying to get some free Fallout 3 DLC.;)

[shieryda]

Your avatar goes really well with your post. You're a Fallout junkie trying to get some free Fallout 3 DLC.;)

I know, dude. It's pretty bad when you go to bed thinking about Fallout, dream about it, and think about it at work. I was/am like that with Oblivion, too.:D

Damn you, Bethesda!!!

I printed a rent 1, get 1 free coupon for Blockbuster to get both add-on discs, but it seems that my efforts may have been wasted.

[bigdaddybruce44]

You could always "rent" them from GameStop as a last resort.

[shieryda]

You could always "rent" them from GameStop as a last resort.

Considered it, but I'd feel dirty.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Definitely hear you on that. Just figured I'd throw it out there.

[crzyjoeguy]

Considered it, but I'd feel dirty.


there is a dlc train for point lookout and broken steel, and you missed the train for anchorage and pitt. check out the 360 forum

[yukafls]

woot, cool to know im gonna get a free theme

[StickyWaffles]

I finished the main quest line in Point Lookout earlier today. I didn't run across any of the side quests that the Fallout wiki says are available so I'll probably go back soon and try to play those. The main quest was really cool though and was enjoyable the whole way through. Looking back on it, it seems like it was short considering there's only 5 little quests, but it took me several hours to complete and I think it wrapped up at he right time. The bad guys were a hell of a lot tougher than I had ever seen in Fallout before, but I had plenty of ammo and stimpaks to keep me alive, and the punga fruits helped me a lot too. Onto my second DLC, Broken Steel.

[crzyjoeguy]

I finished the main quest line in Point Lookout earlier today. I didn't run across any of the side quests that the Fallout wiki says are available so I'll probably go back soon and try to play those. The main quest was really cool though and was enjoyable the whole way through. Looking back on it, it seems like it was short considering there's only 5 little quests, but it took me several hours to complete and I think it wrapped up at he right time. The bad guys were a hell of a lot tougher than I had ever seen in Fallout before, but I had plenty of ammo and stimpaks to keep me alive, and the punga fruits helped me a lot too. Onto my second DLC, Broken Steel.

i just finished point lookout this morning, i thought it was good, but imo broken steel is far superior. so far i rank them

1. broken steel
2. point lookout
3. the pitt
4. operation anchorage

and i started mothership zeta earlier today, so i dont know where that falls in yet . but i liked the look of point lookout for a change, not like the rest of the wasteland, so it was more enjoyable while i was discovering all the locations

[Ma12kez]

Hey guys. I'm debating whether or not to trade in my copy of Fallout 3 for the GOTY edition at TRU just in time for their B2G1F sale. I haven't purchased any of the DLC yet, and I was wondering about how many extra hours do all 5 DLC packs amount to? Is it worth it? I'm kind of wary of repurchasing a game I've already beaten as opposed to purchasing an entirely new game (ie. Batman AA, Uncharted 2, Flashpoint, Beatles).

So I guess I'm asking (to those that have played them) if the DLC warrants the $60 price tag? I know that they add up to $50, but if the actual "content" is worth a play through. Thanks.

[DiscoDuck8k]

A reminder if you bought all of the DLC packs, they've sent out codes for the free theme.

Checked my email just now and saw it there.

[LinkinPrime]

First Summer Of Arcade, and now Fallout 3...it seems I got hosed again. I have all the DLC, bought the two discs and Mothership Zeta card from Amazon...guess those codes don't register :bomb:

[Stu_sjb137]

Just received my email as well. Can't wait to see how this baby looks.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Is the GotY edition going to have all the DLC on a disc or are they going to give you codes to redeem the content?

[shieryda]

Is the GotY edition going to have all the DLC on a disc or are they going to give you codes to redeem the content?

I think it will be at least one separate additional disc in the case.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Hey, guys, if you already got the free theme, and you happen to use a junk account or something that you don't check much, I'd give it a look. I got a second e-mail about the theme and figured it was the same code. It wasn't.

[oxidative]

Hey, guys, if you already got the free theme, and you happen to use a junk account or something that you don't check much, I'd give it a look. I got a second e-mail about the theme and figured it was the same code. It wasn't.

I got an e-mail saying the first code may have been no good (worked fine) and gave me another. Neat. Now to figure out what to do with the extra code ;)

[pelf21]

XCTCB-RYPHX-DJP9R-MXK6X-VH6PJ

Got an extra code for the fallout premium theme.....Enjoy!

[crzyjoeguy]

XCTCB-RYPHX-DJP9R-MXK6X-VH6PJ

Got an extra code for the fallout premium theme.....Enjoy!


i got it, thanks alot :D

[Ink.So.Well.]

Heh... I got the extra code as well. If my friend who hasn't had internet in months doesn't want it then I'm going to try trading mine in for a Gold Hammerburst. If I can't swing that or trading for points then I'll just give it away to one of you guys.

Stay tuned. =P

[Nebenator]

Heh... I got the extra code as well. If my friend who hasn't had internet in months doesn't want it then I'm going to try trading mine in for a Gold Hammerburst. If I can't swing that or trading for points then I'll just give it away to one of you guys.

Stay tuned. =P
Yay, I love giveaways! :D

[$1.25]

Anyone think the DLC will go on sale once the GOTY comes out?

[SynGamer]

Anyone think the DLC will go on sale once the GOTY comes out?

Probably not, but it would be nice. I plan on getting the GotY edition since I don't own the game.

[Salamando3000]

I did notice the Operation Anchorage/The Pitt Expansion Disc on clearance at Target yesterday. Anyone interested might want to check that out.

[FoxHoundADAM]

If anyone else gets an extra theme and feel generous please PM me. I don't have any extra MS points but I'd be willing to send 200 Wii points your way.

[FluxDF]

A reminder if you bought all of the DLC packs, they've sent out codes for the free theme.

Checked my email just now and saw it there.

I called Xbox CS about this because I didn't receive a code. The cs rep told me it was only elligible if you purchased all dlc between sept22 and today's date. Is there stated time on purchase? Cause I thought it was BEFORE sept 22...

[shieryda]

I did notice the Operation Anchorage/The Pitt Expansion Disc on clearance at Target yesterday. Anyone interested might want to check that out.

How much was it? I checked the Target thread, but didn't see any posts about it.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Both of the add-on discs were reported as low as $4.98.

[Spybreak8]

Man do I feel like I wasted some money with just getting Broken Steel/Point Lookout disc for 20 bucks. AH if someone gets an extra code pm me please, I didn't think the other dlcs were worth it from what I've heard, (maybe excluding The Pit).

[chankk]

I hope i can exchange my madden or marvel alliance 2 for this.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Man do I feel like I wasted some money with just getting Broken Steel/Point Lookout disc for 20 bucks. AH if someone gets an extra code pm me please, I didn't think the other dlcs were worth it from what I've heard, (maybe excluding The Pit).

I definitely feel there is a big gap between Broken Steel/Point Lookout and then rest of the DLCs. I mean, I loved Fallout 3, but getting through Mothership Zeta was a real chore. I simply wasn't having any fun. The other two are ok, and the equipment you can get is certainly pretty good.

[shieryda]

Forgive me if it's been asked before, but are the disc-based dlc packs stand-alone, meaning you don't have to have the main Fallout 3 disc to play?

[AshesofWake]

you need Fallout 3 to play

[schuerm26]

I got the GOTY today and it literally sounds like my 360 is going to explode while playing it. It has never sounded like this before.

Hope it isn't a sign of bad things with my system.

Anyways. Off to the Pitt. Finished a couple side quests on Broken Steel. All that is left is Zeta, Pitt and Lookout :(

I do NOT want this game to end.

[shieryda]

Seems like Blockbuster may not be renting this game. At least not the one by me. Suppose I'll have to just pick up the dlc discs off of Goozex.

[yester]

Hi, i just want to make sure if understand this edition. All addons (pitt etc..) are included in this pack.
wow.. i have it on pc, but i really consider it to rebuy it again just to play it on my xbox again.
This is one of the games i have to have.

[crzyjoeguy]

Hi, i just want to make sure if understand this edition. All addons (pitt etc..) are included in this pack.
wow.. i have it on pc, but i really consider it to rebuy it again just to play it on my xbox again.
This is one of the games i have to have.

yes, all 5 dlc packs are included in the GOTY edition

[lolwut?]

So I just got the GotY edition today; can anyone tell me the best way to go about playing it? Should I just install all the DLC right away? I know one of the expansions raises the level cap; if I install it before I pick up my old save, will the main F3 game have the raised level cap in it as well?

Also, are the DLC missions only available after you beat the main game, or do they become available as soon as you install them? I haven't played this since I first rented it when it came out, so I have no idea how the content is handled.

[bigdaddybruce44]

If you are already mid-game, all of the DLC content becomes immediately available upon installation. So, the level cap will be raised, and the quests for Operation: Anchorage, The Pitt, Point Lookout, and Mothership Zeta can be done. Broken Steel's missions extend the game, so they will be available later.

[OnyxPrimal]

The GOTY Edition Hard Cover guide is on Amazon for 23.09 Don't have the game yet, but I'm tempted.

[shieryda]

The GOTY Edition Hard Cover guide is on Amazon for 23.09 Don't have the game yet, but I'm tempted.

I was tempted when it was $17.99, but I passed. I've been using the online Wiki (helps having a laptop right next to me when I'm playing).:D

I just installed the 2 2-disc expansions, but haven't played any more since about 3 weeks ago. Hope to get back into it once I finish Dead Space (maybe this weekend).

[lolwut?]

Alright, so I started playing again, and I need some help.

In the main story, I have to go to the radio station, but on the way I'm pretty sure there was a Super Mutant, and I'm not a high enough level to deal with it (I'm almost level 7). I have the same problem trying to complete chapter 3 of that woman's Wasteland Survival Guide, which I started doing to gain levels to do the main quest, haha. On the way to Rivet City, I take the path down by a big stretch of water, and when it comes time to turn there is a Super Mutant, along with a Super Mutant Behemoth, and probably more I don't know about. My question is how do I eventually go about dealing with all these mofos.

Also, to avoid having to deal with these guys for now, I went exploring, and I came to the trader town (I forget the name) all the way up to the Northeast, by the Scrapyard. I saw the AntAgonizer and the robot guy duking it out, and I accepted the quest to deal with one of them, but I'm not sure which one I should deal with. Are their consequences for doing one or the other. Also, I can't find where the Robot guy lives.

Whew, that was a lot of typing.

[freshzen]

When you're headed to the Galaxy News Radio station you should run into some of the Brotherhood of Steel members and you can basically just follow them. Also I think you should wait a bit to complete the survival guide and I think the Ant guy is the one you deal with, not sure if you even get to choose.

I didn't have any problems with difficulty the entire game except for maybe 1 or 2 little parts but I've been getting raped on Point Lookout, I actually lowered the difficulty to easy which I didn't want to do because I gain less XP. I think part of my problem is that I don't have all of the badass armor and weapons I got towards the end of the game. If I could reload the double barrel shotgun faster that might help a lot but even on easy those Ferrel Ghoul Reavers are insane.

[mang9432]

I got the GOTY today and it literally sounds like my 360 is going to explode while playing it. It has never sounded like this before.

Hope it isn't a sign of bad things with my system.

Anyways. Off to the Pitt. Finished a couple side quests on Broken Steel. All that is left is Zeta, Pitt and Lookout :(

I do NOT want this game to end.

If you have the space, install it to your hard drive. I felt like I could finally hear the audio in the game without blasting it once I installed my copy.

Also, a word of advice, don't save mothership zeta for last. I played the DLC packs all as they came out, and I wish that I didn't do zeta last. It wasn't bad, but it was probably once of the dullest quest lines in the game, so I was a little disappointed that that was the last thing I had left to do in the game. IMO, I'd save point lookout for last, as it's probably the strongest DLC. Broken Steel would be a good way to end your time in Fallout 3 too.

[bigdaddybruce44]

You ain't alone. I love this game to death. I've played through it a couple of times and like going back just to screw around. But it was an absolute chore getting through MZ. It's just extremely boring. Nothing about it is much fun.

[J7.]

Does it feel like the game was made without breaking it up at all into DLC, if you just play the game without any DLC or does it feel only like a full game after playing the DLC?

[bardockkun]

Does it feel like the game was made without breaking it up at all into DLC, if you just play the game without any DLC or does it feel only like a full game after playing the DLC?
The game feels just fine alone. Broken Steel extends the storyline and level cap, but the ending personally feels as conclusive as the original (not very much), more then anything it feels like an excuse to continue on with the character you've made (never a bad thing). Though majority or the DLC feels worth it just for extending the mythos and world beyond the Wasteland.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Indeed. I beat the game before all of the DLCs, and it's an awesome experience. Broken Steel does feel heavily tacked on, but it's still quite enjoyable. The other DLCs are ok, but nothing all that special. The story line in Point Lookout, though, is pretty good.

[shieryda]

Finished MW2 campaign last night. Now I can get back into Fallout for a good long time!:bouncy:

[bigdaddybruce44]

Oh, it will be a loooooooooooooong time, lol, especially if you're the kind of person who likes to explore every inch of an open world.

[J7.]

Can you install the expansions using the expansion discs and then not need the discs anymore?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Indeed, just like Oblivion.

[J7.]

Thanks BDB.

[shieryda]

Stumbled upon the Operation: Anchorage mission last night. I love this game so much. Sniping dudes' heads off is so cool.

[poison_SHADOW]

Man, I need to get back into my GOTY Edition soon... been itching to play some Fallout 3, but I've been so busy playing Modern Warfare 2 online with friends plus I finally got around to getting Dead Space, which is getting better and better the farther into the game i get.

It still bugs me I haven't been able to track down that escaped android... that was the last quest I got obsessed with before I stopped playing. Tried to get into the lower part of Rivet City to talk to the scientist but the lock is hard, and my character isn't exactly a pro at lockpicking... at all. Still determined to finish it without help though.

[shieryda]

I've been ignoring requests to play MW2 in order to play Fallout or Borderlands. Not sure why I even bought MW2 at launch, since I was really only interested in the campaign.

I need to up my lockpicking skill, too. There are so many damn perks, too, that it's getting tough to pick and choose which ones to focus on.

I usually save right before I try to pick a lock, and then if I break a bobby pin, I'll just load the save and try again.