View Full Version : Living next to a child molester or convicted murderer - which is worse?
strongpimphand
04-16-2008, 06:36 PM
i was talking to my friend and he was talking about how he was growing up "across the tracks" (aka the ghetto for the slow) and how the same living rules don't seem to apply to people over there like on the well off side of his town...which is beyond obvious
anyways, at one point, he lived next to someone who the neighborhood would find out was a child molester AND in front of a convicted murderer. now, the murderer he knew of, and he said he was friendly. but the child molester....you know....luckily it wasn't him that was the guy's victim.
crap had me thinking - which is worse? knowing that your house is in front of a convicted murderer or within walking distance to a child molester. both could easily resort back to their troubled ways....and the thought of being next to someone that touches boys/girls is sick, but the thought of accidently making a murderer mad is scary
and for those who wonder, NO, he didn't just "move away" because their family wasn't well off. only in fantasy land can you just up and move from somewhere...most people have to at least plan that crap out and find someone to buy their property and all that stuff
JolietJake
04-16-2008, 06:41 PM
Murderer of course, touching kids is one thing, killing somebody is another.
Purple Flames
04-16-2008, 06:46 PM
I'd think the pedo would be worse. By the sound of it, the murderer has served his time and paid his debt to society, so there's a chance that he reformed during his sentence. I wouldn't be completely comfortable with him in the neighborhood of course, but I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The molester, however, more than likely sounds like he's still active in his pedophilia, and I'd fear for my children and any other child in the neighborhood once I found out.
My answer: the pedo.
Make friends with the murderer, and save money on home security.
strongpimphand
04-16-2008, 06:48 PM
as an "adult" now, i wouldn't care about being near a pedo
a murderer can still be a murderer until the day he/she dies....
BUT, to answer my own thread, i think a pedo around kids is just as dangerous
Dr Mario Kart
04-16-2008, 06:51 PM
I have to imagine that being the victim of a next door neighbor convicted murder seems extremely unlikely. Maybe he'll drive the property values down and save me on taxes.
fatherofcaitlyn
04-16-2008, 06:53 PM
Depends on which one is a slow learner.
A couple of Molotovs on a roof tends to get a person to move away.
strongpimphand
04-16-2008, 07:17 PM
Depends on which one is a slow learner.
A couple of Molotovs on a roof tends to get a person to move away.
...what's a molotove?
...what's a molotove?
Hillbilly hand grenade.
godhatesjustyou
04-16-2008, 07:37 PM
If you have kids, the pedo.
If you don't have kids, the pedo.
Like JJSP said, just be on the good side of the murderer and you're fine.
Rocko
04-16-2008, 07:53 PM
I'd rather live by a murderer. It couldn't have been that bad if he's living in a neighborhood again, and he's probably not going to try that shit again.
crystalklear64
04-16-2008, 07:55 PM
Child murderer living next to the pedo..
WHO WILL WIN!!?!?!?!!?!?
dafoomie
04-16-2008, 07:58 PM
The murderer might have understandable reasons for what he did, but for the pedophile there is no justification. There is also no un-pedophiling someone, if you're a pedophile you're one for life.
strongpimphand
04-16-2008, 08:07 PM
The murderer might have understandable reasons for what he did, but for the pedophile there is no justification. There is also no un-pedophiling someone, if you're a pedophile you're one for life.
for the sake of argument, what if it's one of those "how the fuck am i one...i was 18 and she was 16" type of pedos???
Maklershed
04-16-2008, 08:39 PM
I guess living next to a murderer would be worse for me since I'm not a kid.
naiku
04-16-2008, 08:59 PM
About 8 years ago there was a kid who lived 3 houses down from me who got convicted for having sex with a minor. He was 18 and she was like 12-13. The kid was really weird. About 4weeks after he was convited his family moved away since he couldn't go to school or go outside since everyone in the town knew about it.
That being said...since im 23 I would be more afraid of a convicted murder then a child molester. You can always send Chris Hansen on the molester.
VanillaGorilla
04-16-2008, 09:01 PM
as an "adult" now, i wouldn't care about being near a pedo
a murderer can still be a murderer until the day he/she dies....
BUT, to answer my own thread, i think a pedo around kids is just as dangerous
Someone could snap and kill someone. It could be a freak, spur of the moment thing. A child molestor pretty much plans out that shit, it's not a freak impulse.
dafoomie
04-16-2008, 09:05 PM
for the sake of argument, what if it's one of those "how the fuck am i one...i was 18 and she was 16" type of pedos???
Well, a "sex offender" like the kid who was 16 or 17 and got head from a 15 year old, that wouldn't constitute a "pedophile".
mitch079
04-16-2008, 09:08 PM
Obvious solution would have been to have the murderer kill the pedo. One's dead and the other one is back in jail.
Moxio
04-16-2008, 09:50 PM
Convicted murderer.
georox
04-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Honestly, would require a lot more than generic labels to see which I'd rather not live near. I'd prefer neither, but if I have to choose I'd want backstory.
SpazX
04-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Honestly, would require a lot more than generic labels to see which I'd rather not live near. I'd prefer neither, but if I have to choose I'd want backstory.
Yeah, I know this is a hypothetical game, but both the murderer and the pedophile could possibly have been rehabilitated and/or have a good explanation for what gave them that label.
becuzimbrown
04-16-2008, 10:13 PM
i'd rather get murdered than raped any day.
Cracka
04-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Well i would assume that in the "ghetto" the murder was probably over some sort of argument, possibly drug or gang related? or not. But you don't often see serial killers from the ghetto. So this murderer wouldn't be equivalent to a Manson, looney killer. The looney killers can kill at any time and their anger can be triggered by anything.
so in this case i would say i'd rather live by the murderer.
RAMSTORIA
04-16-2008, 10:30 PM
molester would be worse. ya never know, it could be one of those good murderers, like nicholas cage in con air.
rajchakrabarti
04-16-2008, 10:35 PM
well you can check right now if you got some sex offenders living by ya !..
http://www.familywatchdog.us/
crushtopher
04-16-2008, 10:39 PM
If you have kids, the pedo.
If you don't have kids, the pedo.
Like JJSP said, just be on the good side of the murderer and you're fine.
You think being on the "good side" of a murderer excludes you from potential victims? You = naive/ignorant
Monsta Mack
04-16-2008, 10:48 PM
well you can check right now if you got some sex offenders living by ya !..
http://www.familywatchdog.us/
Where my parents live theres like one or two near by.
But damn I got like 50+ within 3 miles of me!
Fucked up world.
Dead of Knight
04-16-2008, 11:05 PM
Murderer, as I don't have kids.
Trakan
04-16-2008, 11:08 PM
I'm almost 22.
Convicted murderer.
georox
04-17-2008, 12:09 AM
Where my parents live theres like one or two near by.
But damn I got like 50+ within 3 miles of me!
Fucked up world.
You don't wanna see my map then.
crunchb3rry
04-17-2008, 02:07 AM
Oddly, it's the child molesters that get the raw end of the deal after serving their time. Watch Little Children. Some states even want you to have a license plate that says "I'm a child molester." like the government is all but sanctioning vigilante justice. Most of these guys just live like hermits afterwards, both so they stay "clean" and because they kinda have to with the soccer moms that think their ugly kids are cute enough to be potential molestation victims in the first place.
Murderers are pretty much left alone...because to bother them in the way you would a child molester might get your ass killed.
JimmieMac
04-17-2008, 02:13 AM
Depends who the murderer killed. Maybe it was a one time thing, he paid his debt to society and it's all over. He lost his head when he found some guy fuckin his old lady or some shit. But the pedo, that guy most likely has an unquenchable thirst for small children that will never go away and I don't think I want the news people knockin on my door askin me questions about what I saw.
strongpimphand
04-17-2008, 03:07 AM
i was talking to someone about this in my boring ass night class....i was like "what if it was a child molesting murderer?!?!" and he was like "....i'm living in a hotel until he's arrested"
greyzieoriental
04-17-2008, 03:47 AM
well you can check right now if you got some sex offenders living by ya !..
http://www.familywatchdog.us/
never knew about that site, wish i didnt see the results of it now
strongpimphand
04-17-2008, 04:04 AM
never knew about that site, wish i didnt see the results of it now
i just alerted my brother he got a child molestor down the street from him....doesn't matter because he's 26...but it will if he lets his kid play outside when he visits (though i DOUBT that would happen)
lilboo
04-17-2008, 07:48 AM
It depends on a case by case thing.
Things happen and maybe someone was already on edge..and whatever happened (like Jimmie said, maybe someone walked in on someone fuckin their wife) and he lost it.
He did 10 years in jail, and is better now. I wouldn't feel threatened by this man.
Then you can have someone who was like 24 at a time. Since girls are lying whores, he probably was dating a girl who he thought was 18, but turns out she was 15 so he gets shit end of the deal. I wouldn't feel threatened by someone like this.
Chances are if someone was a serial murderer, they wouldn't be let out of prison?
But I guess I wouldn't mind living next to a molester.
RoboBlue
04-17-2008, 09:47 AM
The problem is, politicians have preyed on peoples' disgust at child molesters, and as a result you're not really getting the truth when hearing that there's a "registered sex offender" living near you. Any sex crime whatsoever, even if it was an accident resulting in pressed charges and a conviction, requires offenders to register periodically to a government authority. For this reason, I ask, please don't harass that guy down the street who's a "sex offender". You don't know what he did, and if he/she DID commit a horrible crime, why would you want to have contact with him/her?
As far as a murderer goes, it's pretty much impossible to argue that anyone convicted in court of murder doesn't have some sort of serious problem. Murderers ARE let out of prison for various reasons, but I'd still rather avoid contact with him/her for obvious reasons.
fatherofcaitlyn
04-17-2008, 10:16 AM
i'd rather get murdered than raped any day.
If you get raped, you have the opportunity to murder later.
fatherofcaitlyn
04-17-2008, 10:17 AM
Hillbilly hand grenade.
Exactly. As long as you wear gloves while handling the bottle, they're untraceable after impact.
Eviltude
04-17-2008, 10:42 AM
I'd rather live by a murderer. It couldn't have been that bad if he's living in a neighborhood again, and he's probably not going to try that shit again.
My thoughts exactly. Not to mention if a murder happens in your neighborhood, the first place they would look would be the convicted murderer, so you would think they would be smart enough to not try it.
Yoohoo1231
04-17-2008, 10:45 AM
Like most are saying, I'd rather live near the murderer for the reasons that a murderer could have had a reason, learned from their experience or whatever. A pedophile is suffering from a sickness/fetish that they can't turn off or learn from really.
the3rdkey
04-17-2008, 10:47 AM
Living next to a Christian Republican.
UnderwaterMadman
04-17-2008, 11:02 AM
Molester is much worse.
GuilewasNK
04-17-2008, 11:12 AM
Living next to a murderer is worse by far.
If you doubt that, ask yourself which is worse a child rapist or child murderer? One victim at least has a chance (even if small) to recover, the other has absolutely none.
davo1224
04-17-2008, 11:13 AM
I dunno. The pedo is infinitely more creepy but who'd wanna piss off a murderer?
Zen Davis
04-17-2008, 11:16 AM
I think this an extremely loaded question and the majority of people who went along with it are pretty irresponsible and knee-jerk reactionary people.
There is the fact that the topic alone gives you two choices. One is a legal, society bound conviction and the other is a blank label. A more rational question would be "Living to a Convicted Sex Offender or a Convicted Murder - Which Is Worse?" The topic pries on people's irrational fears and so seemingly the only choices are get raped or pick the murderer. Here are some facts for you (Wikied).
Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.
Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.As with the majority of people, I would most likely like to live next to a convicted murdered than a child molester but a more fitting question would be "Living Next To A Child Molestor or a Serial Killer - Which is Worse?" At least that is comparable in the sense that both are still currently indulging in their crimes.
Stop being dipshits.
SeanNOLA
04-17-2008, 11:34 AM
I think you're better off just not knowing who's next door. I got that sex offender warning card in the mail last month saying that my neighbor had been convicted of "Crimes against nature" (beastiality) 2 years ago. Now everytime I walk my puppy, my girlfriend goes "don't walk him in front of that lady's house" but she lives 2 doors down from me! I can't NOT walk there! Now it's just inconvenient...
strongpimphand
04-17-2008, 11:42 AM
I think you're better off just not knowing who's next door. I got that sex offender warning card in the mail last month saying that my neighbor had been convicted of "Crimes against nature" (beastiality) 2 years ago. Now everytime I walk my puppy, my girlfriend goes "don't walk him in front of that lady's house" but she lives 2 doors down from me! I can't NOT walk there! Now it's just inconvenient...
that's a way to wake up....
regardless, i would walk my dog/walk my child/walk myself near that person and even speak to them if spoken to. they're trying to live like the rest of us...it's just that obviously they would bet he last i'd hit up in an emergency
NJMane
04-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Make friends with the murderer, and save money on home security.
bingo. Just dont piss him off and your ok. Invite him to your BBQ's.
dafoomie
04-17-2008, 05:55 PM
I think this an extremely loaded question and the majority of people who went along with it are pretty irresponsible and knee-jerk reactionary people.
Sex Offender /= Pedophile. Your statistics include crimes which are unrelated to the question being asked.
Pedophilia is a compulsive behavior, and as such, the re-offense rate is much higher than other sex offenders. Both have higher rates of re-offense than murderers.
The question is fairly loaded since we're talking about a specific subset of sex offender, while murderer could range as far down as involuntary manslaughter. The level of murderer comparable to a pedophile is probably a serial killer, who is unlikely to ever leave prison.
pacifickarma
04-17-2008, 06:57 PM
I don't think the murderer would be quite as bad as the sex offender. A murderer may kill for a specific reason, i.e. he comes home and finds his wife on bed with another man and kills both in his rage. He has nothing against other people and probably isn't a danger to me or my family. A sex offender is a freak for life.
Kayden
04-17-2008, 07:33 PM
It's hard to choose, they both sound like such fun people...
Child murderer living next to the pedo..
WHO WILL WIN!!?!?!?!!?!?
:rofl:
I love you.
:rofl:
Living next to a murderer is worse by far.
If you doubt that, ask yourself which is worse a child rapist or child murderer? One victim at least has a chance (even if small) to recover, the other has absolutely none.
Having known a lot of people that were sexually abused as children, I can say its better for everyone if they would have died. The head just isn't right after that.
Zen Davis
04-17-2008, 07:51 PM
Having known a lot of people that were sexually abused as children, I can say its better for everyone if they would have died. The head just isn't right after that.
That's such a bullshit overblown statement. If it's true, why don't you do the right thing and kill them off?
I don't think the murderer would be quite as bad as the sex offender. A murderer may kill for a specific reason, i.e. he comes home and finds his wife on bed with another man and kills both in his rage. He has nothing against other people and probably isn't a danger to me or my family. A sex offender is a freak for life.
What about people with public urination offenses that get labeled sex offenders? Man some of you people are just crazy.
Sex Offender /= Pedophile. Your statistics include crimes which are unrelated to the question being asked.
Pedophilia is a compulsive behavior, and as such, the re-offense rate is much higher than other sex offenders. Both have higher rates of re-offense than murderers.
The question is fairly loaded since we're talking about a specific subset of sex offender, while murderer could range as far down as involuntary manslaughter. The level of murderer comparable to a pedophile is probably a serial killer, who is unlikely to ever leave prison.
But the way this conversation is playing out, people are saying sex offender = pedophila and I just wanted to live in reality for a moment and point that it is not the case. It's like saying serial killers have a higher re-offense rate than reguar murderers. Either compare categories where people generally do reoffend or compare categories where people generally don't. Don't mix categories and call it a fair discussion.
GrimNecroWizard
04-17-2008, 08:01 PM
If you have kids, the pedo.
If you don't have kids, the pedo.
Like JJSP said, just be on the good side of the murderer and you're fine.
I don't think people only kill when they're mad at someone...
mrlokievil
04-17-2008, 08:12 PM
It's kinda scary that most people have said they would rather live near a murderer. It's a lot easier to defend yourself from a pedo than it is a murderer. I'd much rather live near a pedo because a) there is a website that lists them and b) there are many more ways to protect children from pedos(not that I will ever have children)
rajchakrabarti
04-17-2008, 11:37 PM
...where is chris hanson when you need him ?
coolsteel
04-18-2008, 12:18 AM
Worse to live next to a child molester by far, murder I get, everybody gets pissed, but having your way with little kids? Total nut
paz9x
04-18-2008, 12:48 AM
well if it was a legitimate child molester, yes thats worse, there is nothing worse than harming or taking advantage of children. i periodically check the megans law list in my zipcode.
i have a feeling my thoughts are shared by most who have children.
dafoomie
04-18-2008, 06:13 PM
But the way this conversation is playing out, people are saying sex offender = pedophila and I just wanted to live in reality for a moment and point that it is not the case. It's like saying serial killers have a higher re-offense rate than reguar murderers. Either compare categories where people generally do reoffend or compare categories where people generally don't. Don't mix categories and call it a fair discussion.
The argument should be over since choice #1 tends to reoffend and choice #2 doesn't.
Now, you could compare living next to pedophiles and serial killers who haven't been arrested. I'd want to live next to the serial killer since they'd likely not murder so close to their house in order to avoid suspicion. In fact, they're often nice to their neighbors. Successful serial killers rely on putting some thought into what they do, while pedophiles merely count on children generally not telling anyone.
Zen Davis
04-18-2008, 07:45 PM
Also most murderers are held in prison for decades.