Madden 09 - Gen. Discussion & Info

[popemogoth]

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Release Date: August 12, 2008
Official Website: http://www.easports.com/madden09/



Features:
Level the Playing Field - An all-new Adaptive Difficulty Engine assesses your proficiency in the core skills areas of football, then tailors the experience to match your playing style. An innovative, all-new Virtual Training Center allows you to fine-tune your game in a holographic environment, while EA SPORTS BackTrack provides customized feedback, giving you a chance to learn from your mistakes. Then, take what you’ve learned and run the play again with EA SPORTS Rewind.
Beyond Broadcast Presentation - Set your sights on the Vince Lombardi Trophy in an all-new network television-style broadcast as Cris Collinsworth and Tom Hammond call the action from the booth. A more immersive and visually stunning presentation package also includes a new Options OnDemand Picture-in-Picture playcall window giving you access to a wealth of stats, customized tips, and in-game options - all at your fingertips without having to pause the game.
Online Leagues 2.0 - Make a run for the postseason for the first time online. Featuring trades and statistical tracking for Online Leagues, up to 32 teams can battle it out using all-new flex scheduling.
A New Look and Feel - With an enhanced graphics engine and new player models, linemen battle in the trenches with more bulky physiques while backs and receivers fly around the field with a more sleek and slimmer look. Featuring the most realistic-looking grass and field turf ever in a sports game, new weather and stadium lighting effects, and active exterior stadium views, Madden NFL 09 is hands down the best looking sports game ever made!
Most Authentic Gameplay Ever - Built from the ground up, an all-new Total Control Animation System allows for instantaneous combo moves while bringing new aspects to the game, including missed field goal returns, bobble catches, wrap-up/break-out tackles, user controlled celebrations, and more.

[Danimal]

I think they're just doing all they can to break the cover jinx. No way Favre misses time with an injury this year. :lol:

[popemogoth]

Didn't happen for Vince Young did it?

[shinryuu]

Well, he did get injured, but he was bound to since he likes to scramble out of the pocket.

I'm still wondering why they call the game Madden now since it looks like they took him out of the game completely now, unless they still put his sound bytes for the "Ask Madden" stuff. =p

[HighlightShow]

#4, what a G.

[DomLando]

Cris Collinsworth and Tom Hammond are doing the commentary???? Terrible!

[SteveMcQ]

Tom Hammond? Seriously? Just give me Al Michaels if you're gonna give me some commentators. Or steal Peter and Dan from the 2K series.

[opterasis]

Better than one of the Manning tools.

[assasin4hire]

Didn't happen for Vince Young did it?

He was injured, I dont remember exactly what the injury was though...he missed like three or four games mid-season.

[HighlightShow]

Better than one of the Manning tools.
What do you have against the Manning studs?

[Matt Young]

He was injured, I dont remember exactly what the injury was though...he missed like three or four games mid-season.

Nope... He missed the week 7 game at Houston, and that's all.

[Chase]

Cris Collinsworth and Tom Hammond are doing the commentary???? Terrible!

Ouch. That just hurts. Hammond is terrible.

[popemogoth]

Terrible or not...i just hope it's at least decent since we haven't had commentary on the 360 yet.

[Matt Young]

It could be worse. They could feature SportsCenter with Sean Salisbury (I know he doesn't work there anymore) doing post-game analysis. Then, when you go to check your phone/e-mail messages, you have a "progress report" or something from Salisbury which turns out to be a large photo of his cock.

[Chase]

It could be worse. They could feature SportsCenter with Sean Salisbury (I know he doesn't work there anymore) doing post-game analysis. Then, when you go to check your phone/e-mail messages, you have a "progress report" or something from Salisbury which turns out to be a large photo of his cock.

"Hey wait, why does my progress report show me a picture of salisbury steak? And where's the mashed potatoes and gravy?"

[ph33r m3]

Salisbury got booted off ESPN.

I actually don't mind no commentary because after one game, they repeat the same shit.

Cris Collinsworth blows though.

[Tha Xecutioner]

I said it in the general gaming thread about this game, and I'll say it again here:

needs more Young/Montana.

[SteveMcQ]

I'm glad they ditched the radio play-by-play guy though. For a game that touted "realism" especially graphically, it was such a weird dichotomy having what sounded like an AM broadcast.

[ThatDamnDave]

The online league feature seems like it'll be great for organizing a CAG league. That at least has me interested in purchasing a Madden for the first time in a decade.

[Azumangaman]

We have to do CAG Madden leagues. The universe depends on it. Since 2004, I've split the cost with my brother and bought on day 1, and this is no exception.

[FriskyTanuki]

Bumping this up for the launch of the game. Got my copy last night and it seems pretty good so far, though I've got a few beefs right now. Is there a way at all to download the new rosters manually? I lucked out in that just creating a test league and dissolving it seemed to cause the automatic roster update, so I lucked out, but I don't want to be forced to play somebody online just to have accurate rosters. The other beef is with the shitty menu system that disappears all the time, putting the responsibility of bringing it back up on me, which is stupid to me. After playing NCAA 09, which takes 2 minutes at least for the main menu to show up when booting up the game, I literally sat for a few minutes waiting for the damn menu to pop up when I realized it's been ready all along, but was hiding.

[deszaras]

Bumping this up for the launch of the game. Got my copy last night and it seems pretty good so far, though I've got a few beefs right now. Is there a way at all to download the new rosters manually? I lucked out in that just creating a test league and dissolving it seemed to cause the automatic roster update, so I lucked out, but I don't want to be forced to play somebody online just to have accurate rosters. The other beef is with the shitty menu system that disappears all the time, putting the responsibility of bringing it back up on me, which is stupid to me. After playing NCAA 09, which takes 2 minutes at least for the main menu to show up when booting up the game, I literally sat for a few minutes waiting for the damn menu to pop up when I realized it's been ready all along, but was hiding.


I noticed the demo was set for widescreen tvs and I wondered if that's changeable in the game's settings? I have a standard tv and it can't change for a widescreen setting.

[doubledown]

The only way to download rosters is to start a RANKED game apparently....same approach the past few yeras. I will be getting my CE tonight.

[Jagged Toaster]

I'm going to go out to buy it in an hour. This will be my first current-gen Madden. I'm excited.

[deszaras]

I'm going to go out to buy it in an hour. This will be my first current-gen Madden. I'm excited.

Me too

[Lokki]

I'll probably go pick it up at lunch. I'm waiting to read more feedback from folks that are playing it already. I'm still down about the way they handled the online leagues.

[Lokki]

Bumping this up for the launch of the game. Got my copy last night and it seems pretty good so far, though I've got a few beefs right now. Is there a way at all to download the new rosters manually? I lucked out in that just creating a test league and dissolving it seemed to cause the automatic roster update, so I lucked out, but I don't want to be forced to play somebody online just to have accurate rosters.

Found this on the EA site where they have the option to download the updated cover with Favre in the Jets uniform.

We also invite fans to get today's new online roster download. Available for Xbox 360, Xbox, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 2 and Wii versions of the game, this new roster download features Favre as the starting quarterback on the New York Jets and is available today as an automatic download when you play an online game. For fans not playing online, Favre is on the "NFL Greats" roster. In Franchise Mode, players can transfer Favre to the free agent roster pool, and pick him up on any of the 32 NFL teams for the 2008 season.

So yeah, it looks like you have to do an online game for the roster updates.

[popemogoth]

Got the game yesterday new roster update is online.

Likes:
Commentary
Heavy Snow
Animation
Dirty Jerseys
Detailed Stadiums

Dislikes:
Very Glitchy
Same boring Menu
Presentation not so in depth
When its snowing inside the stadium it's sunny outside during stadium fly by

Missing:
NFL Network
In depth Highlights Show
Tony Bruno Radio Show
League Stats Tracking
Sports Illustrated weekly reports
Owners Mode

[FriskyTanuki]

What happened to the advance clock feature that advanced the game and play clock after you picked your play? How about being able to use any face/shoulder button for playcalling like NCAA 09? I'm disappointed by some of the small features that seem to be missing.

[DT778]

What happened to the advance clock feature that advanced the game and play clock after you picked your play? How about being able to use any face/shoulder button for playcalling like NCAA 09? I'm disappointed by some of the small features that seem to be missing.If you hold Ltrigger you can then select a play with the face buttons.

[FriskyTanuki]

If you hold Ltrigger you can then select a play with the face buttons.
Thanks, though I was hoping for something that was more automatic than that.

[shinryuu]

The accelerated clock is going to be in the next patch, which was supposed to be released today? I forgot, but it's going to be in a patch.

Got my copy of the CE. I'm too lazy to put the disc in though.. haha, mainly because I can't decide whether to play Madden or Head Coach. =x

[FriskyTanuki]

Didn't know they included the Highlights feature that NCAA's had since last year, though it doesn't seem as polished as it was in NCAA 09. Pretty cool.

[Matt Young]

The accelerated clock is going to be in the next patch, which was supposed to be released today? I forgot, but it's going to be in a patch.

Got my copy of the CE. I'm too lazy to put the disc in though.. haha, mainly because I can't decide whether to play Madden or Head Coach. =x

I won't have my copy for about 2 and a half hours. How's the packaging? Are the games in 2 separate cases, held together by a box?

[shinryuu]

It's like one, foldable box, but the plastic inside is a case in its own (if that makes sense). In other words, it clicks when you open/close it. There's another cardboard box you put it in, and a plastic sleeve to put over the whole thing. Meh, does the job. I'd like it if it was in two packages, just because I like the Madden/HC covers over the big, boring XXs.

[mr ryles]

got disconnected on 3 of the 4 games I tried playing online last night, neither of us quit, just got random connection errors out of no where.

[doubledown]

It's like one, foldable box, but the plastic inside is a case in its own (if that makes sense). In other words, it clicks when you open/close it. There's another cardboard box you put it in, and a plastic sleeve to put over the whole thing. Meh, does the job. I'd like it if it was in two packages, just because I like the Madden/HC covers over the big, boring XXs.

It kind of reminds me of the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions Boxes....where you have a sturdy outer box and the one that slides into it. I have yet to play it, I may start with Head Coach until the Rosters are a little more settled. Opening Day rosters are ideal for me.

[shinryuu]

It kind of reminds me of the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions Boxes....where you have a sturdy outer box and the one that slides into it. I have yet to play it, I may start with Head Coach until the Rosters are a little more settled. Opening Day rosters are ideal for me.
They released a roster today. You have to join a ranked match to download them.

Just read a thread on OS about the patches/DLC. Here (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/260376-madden-09-roster-patch-update.html#post2038573442). =p

[GenghisJohn]

i think one of the reasons for them getting rid of the advance the play clock option is now there is about 10 times more stuff you can adjust at the line this year. I'm not 100% sure but thats how I rationalize it.

[shinryuu]

^eh, I guess. Though the CPU rarely gives you the chance to adjust when you're playing D.

I played my first game as the Texans vs. Jets (w/ Favre). I was bringing it in the first half with a nice TD pass to Andre Johnson and brought up the chains consistently. 10-3 at halftime. Brett Favre gets mad and throws two TDs. Back at the 4th, trying to catch up, I move up to the endzone and score with Andre Johnson again on a curl route with two DBs on him. Crazy. OT, Jets D sacks me twice and Jets become unstoppable.

Crud, haha. I couldn't run the ball at all in that game too, but for some reason they fell for PAs in the game. =p

[Matt Young]

Shit, my Madden IQ is low, as in 500 or a little less. The tests are too hard. I have been really good at the last 2 Maddens, and I've dominated the CPU on MySkill so far.

I just started a franchise with the Packers. I have never played a preseason game, thinking it to be pointless, but this year is different. I'm playing to get a feel for my young guys, particularly the QBs.

[mr ryles]

ya my madden IQ dropped to like 470 something after playing 3 games so far. Although my record is 3-0 :roll:

[shinryuu]

Haha I got 518 on my IQ test. I don't think I even got any points for the pass D. I doubt I'm that bad though. Shhzz, playing online is such a mixed bag. I usually get someone too good, or someone absolutely retarded. I think I'll start on HC tomorrow. =p

[FriskyTanuki]

Wow. Played a mud bowl game with Dallas, which was awesome seeing players get dirty as fuck.

[Matt Young]

The game's great so far, but the 2 times I tried to play FrankySox, we were disconnected in the 1st quarter despite both still being in our private chat together. Strangely, the games (ranked) did not count toward our online records, but when I checked my record in the showcase, it stood at 4-0-1. I had only played 3 offline games. The scores for the last 2 were listed as 7-0 and 7-7 even though they didn't count toward the online records.

[Matt Young]

I'm done for the night. I got the game shortly after 7 P.M. It's now 2:05 A.M. I just finished my 4th and final preseason game (6th overall, not counting the 2 unfinished online games) 5 minutes ago. I went with the default preseason depth charts and played Rodgers in the first half of each game, Brohm in the 3rd quarter, and then I subbed in Matt Flynn for the 4th.

As an aside, Brett Favre will miss the Jets' first 5 games with a dislocated elbow.

I'll have to give it more time, but so far this game seems to be better than both Madden 08 (best Madden ever till now) and NCAA 09. Great game. And I haven't even touched on anything outside of 2 exhibition and 4 preseason franchise games! Tomorrow, the regular season- and Head Coach, which I haven't even popped in yet- awaits.

[Azumangaman]

Does the Favre on Jets update come as you turn on the game like a normal update?
Because I never got that and I started a Vikings franchise and Favre wasn't on the Jets or Packers.

EDIT: Is it just me or does every team have the same damn playbook? I've played as the Vikes, Jags and Titans (for achievement) and they ALL have the same playbook.

[MSUHitman]

The only way to download rosters is to start a RANKED game apparently....same approach the past few yeras. I will be getting my CE tonight.

If it's the same as before, which it looks like, you only need to attempt to start a ranked game. Before the game starts (when it shows the controller selection screen) the game will prompt for the roster download then. After it downloads, just exit out of the game before it starts while you're still at that controller selection window.

Edit: My Madden IQ is around 600 (I've played the original 1989 Madden, then Madden 93-96 on the SNES, then 01-06 on the PS2, finishing with a touch of 07 on the 360 before my EA boycott) but I'm having problems running the football. First preseason game was 10-0 defensive struggle win over KC with my only TD being a catch and run by Hester. Traded Grossman and 2nd round draft pick for Brady Quinn. We'll see what happens in the next 3 preseason games.

This is the first EA developed or published product I've bought new in 2 plus years. I think it's finally a true "next-gen" version of Madden and they're finally doing things 2K did with ESPN NFL 2K5. There's still room for some improvement (Sportscenter/NFL Primetime at halftime/end of week?!) but this will probably be my only version of Madden I buy this generation.

[deszaras]

Does the Favre on Jets update come as you turn on the game like a normal update?
Because I never got that and I started a Vikings franchise and Favre wasn't on the Jets or Packers.

EDIT: Is it just me or does every team have the same damn playbook? I've played as the Vikes, Jags and Titans (for achievement) and they ALL have the same playbook.

I play with the Panthers all the time but I was tried a few of the moments(one of them as the Panthers) and when I tried some with the Dolphins and Packers, their playbooks were different.

[MSUHitman]

Is it just me or does every team have the same damn playbook? I've played as the Vikes, Jags and Titans (for achievement) and they ALL have the same playbook.

Many teams in the NFL use a similar offensive scheme, like the West Coast Offense, for example. There may be slight variations but many are similar. It also matters who the off/def coordinators are and who they worked for in the past. That also determines what schemes they use.

[dipset121]

I noticed before the snap and after there are no names on the back of the players jerseys at all its just the number is there a reason for this??? Anyone else having this problem???



I got my game yesterday and finally got a chance to play late last night and I must say visually the game looks great. But I have some serious issues with how badly this game glitches with the endzone celabrations. I got achievements on botched endzone celebrations?? I ran to the wall to do a celebration and the guy fell off the wall and it cut to a different scene right away. The next time I went to the goal post and the guy didn't do anything but jump and it then panned over to the replay of the play. I was sitting there like wtf. Is there glitches all over the endzone celebrations is anyone else having these problems???? I mean its extremely frustrating that no matter what I have only got the endzone dances to work 1 time. Is there a time limit on when you have to get to the spot or something??? Anyone help is appreciated.

[dipset121]

I noticed before the snap and after there are no names on the back of the players jerseys at all its just the number is there a reason for this??? Anyone else having this problem???



I got my game yesterday and finally got a chance to play late last night and I must say visually the game looks great. But I have some serious issues with how badly this game glitches with the endzone celabrations. I got achievements on botched endzone celebrations?? I ran to the wall to do a celebration and the guy fell off the wall and it cut to a different scene right away. The next time I went to the goal post and the guy didn't do anything but jump and it then panned over to the replay of the play. I was sitting there like wtf. Is there glitches all over the endzone celebrations is anyone else having these problems???? I mean its extremely frustrating that no matter what I have only got the endzone dances to work 1 time. Is there a time limit on when you have to get to the spot or something??? Anyone help is appreciated.

[Matt Young]

I can see players' names on their jerseys prior o the snap, and I have never had an end zone celebration glitch.

[Matt Young]

Does the Favre on Jets update come as you turn on the game like a normal update?
Because I never got that and I started a Vikings franchise and Favre wasn't on the Jets or Packers.

EDIT: Is it just me or does every team have the same damn playbook? I've played as the Vikes, Jags and Titans (for achievement) and they ALL have the same playbook.

You have to enter into a ranked game and the rosters will automatically download in the pre-game lobby like the last couple versions of Madden.

I noticed before the snap and after there are no names on the back of the players jerseys at all its just the number is there a reason for this??? Anyone else having this problem???



I got my game yesterday and finally got a chance to play late last night and I must say visually the game looks great. But I have some serious issues with how badly this game glitches with the endzone celabrations. I got achievements on botched endzone celebrations?? I ran to the wall to do a celebration and the guy fell off the wall and it cut to a different scene right away. The next time I went to the goal post and the guy didn't do anything but jump and it then panned over to the replay of the play. I was sitting there like wtf. Is there glitches all over the endzone celebrations is anyone else having these problems???? I mean its extremely frustrating that no matter what I have only got the endzone dances to work 1 time. Is there a time limit on when you have to get to the spot or something??? Anyone help is appreciated.


I can see players' names on their jerseys prior o the snap, and I have never had an end zone celebration glitch.

[deszaras]

You have to enter into a ranked game and the rosters will automatically download in the pre-game lobby like the last couple versions of Madden.

Is there another way to get the roster update?

[FrankySox]

Is there another way to get the roster update?

Nope, gotta have gold buddy. If you need you could get a free 48 hour gold card. I have a free month of XBL gold card you could maybe pry outta my hands. But the only way is to go to an online match and download them.

[deszaras]

Nope, gotta have gold buddy. If you need you could get a free 48 hour gold card. I have a free month of XBL gold card you could maybe pry outta my hands. But the only way is to go to an online match and download them.

Thanks, I've got a couple 48 codes. I'll probably wait to get the update until after the season starts.

[SteveMcQ]

Is there a way to check the wind direction in the play selection screen? I'm taking a break from the game and don't wanna check myself, but it seems there's no indicator until you're actually lined up to kick.

[mr ryles]

McFadden is a beast

[Azumangaman]

If anybody here is interested in joining a Madden League, the Chiefs team dropped out, so if anybody wants to be the Chiefs, join the fray!

[pelf21]

Anyone know how you get the "secret" 50pt achievement?

[Matt Young]

Anyone know how you get the "secret" 50pt achievement?

Create a player named John Madden.

[pelf21]

Create a player named John Madden.

Thanks!

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm surprised that EA hasn't changed the AI's routine to always call a timeout with 10 seconds left in the half when they're in FG range. Why not call a TO at 3 seconds so I can't make a play at the end of the half?

[popemogoth]

Is it me or does the safeties not react to an open runner coming up his alley? I had Julius Jones charging both of my safeties but they are still playing the zone and not pursuing the runner. Another thing they need to fix is the starting line up pictures. While playing a Cowboys Franchise Zach Thomas is out for the season and his picture is not replaced with the 2nd stringer. This also happens with other teams too.

[FrankySox]

Is anyone else having connection issues when playing online games? I've been disconnected in the first quarter in my last three games. It's really annoying as this year I actually want to play online more but it doesn't seem to work for me...what the HELL?

[Matt Young]

Is anyone else having connection issues when playing online games? I've been disconnected in the first quarter in my last three games. It's really annoying as this year I actually want to play online more but it doesn't seem to work for me...what the HELL?

Sorry to say my friend, but it seems to be your connection. You and I were d/c'ed in the 1st quarter those 2 times, but I played 3 games last night and they were lag-free and finished no problem.

[shinryuu]

I don't think it's a connection issue. It's an ongoing issue after reading some forums. I've had it happen to me once. =/

Anyways, here's a crazy play my brother somehow made. Gave him a hard hit after the TD:
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/196913

=D

[DT778]

How do you get your video's on that site?

[shinryuu]

After a game is over, you can go to the EA Sports Highlights. You have to "create" your highlight there, by choosing a play and camera view. Once you do that, visit your highlights in the main screen, and select. There should be an option for you to upload your highlight online. You might have to go through a EA Sportsworld registration page if you haven't gone through it already. It will then encode the video, then upload it.

Go to the EA Sportworld page online, login, and it should be sitting there waiting for you to watch it. =p

[DT778]

how do I link my xbox live name with my profile on EA Sportsworld?

edit: nevermind I got it.

Thanks dude.

[Danil ACE]

wtf is the collector's $90? Such a rip

[DT778]

It comes with a complete version of Head Coach 09.

[FrankySox]

Sorry to say my friend, but it seems to be your connection. You and I were d/c'ed in the 1st quarter those 2 times, but I played 3 games last night and they were lag-free and finished no problem.

I can connect fine with no lag to other people, and it just disconnects at the same time during every game? My connection is fine with every other game. I've configured all of my stuff, I fixed this problem a LONG time ago so that shouldn't be the issue.

Also if it was my connection why would the other player get disconnected and not get the option to continue the game against the computer? If it was my connection why wouldn't I receive something in the DNF category? If it was my connections why does everything else work fine? I don't know but this is really annoying, it worked fine the first few times I played, looks like I might never get a win online if this keeps up.

[SteveMcQ]

Am I the only one having a hell of a time with running in the game? Most every skill has jumped up to All-Madden for me, but I'm still on Pro and it goes down a bit every game, but the AI doesn't seem to let up. They're always in the backfield at the handoff.

[FrankySox]

Am I the only one having a hell of a time with running in the game? Most every skill has jumped up to All-Madden for me, but I'm still on Pro and it goes down a bit every game, but the AI doesn't seem to let up. They're always in the backfield at the handoff.

Running...? You can run in this game? I made custom sliders and put run blocking at about 65 and have some success with the TEXANS...ugh. What team are you using?

[Matt Young]

I've got my run offense bar totally full, but I still have yet to rush for 100 yards in a game. I'm not talking about one guy, either. I mean as a team.

How many games have you guys played in your franchises? I'm still undefeated, online and off, and I've finished 7 games of my first regular season. I also played all 4 preseason games. In contrast, in Madden 08, I didn't finish a season until a couple months after I bought the game.

Also, why is it that I can beat the Cowboys 35-7 and the Colts 21-3, but I barely scraped by the Lions 29-26 in overtime, and nipped the Falcons 11-10?

[SteveMcQ]

Running...? You can run in this game? I made custom sliders and put run blocking at about 65 and have some success with the TEXANS...ugh. What team are you using?Colts. I've played four games thus far and have only managed a little over 100 yards total in those four games, while I have over 800 yards passing with a nearly full bar. And my playcalling shows I'm 45/55 run to pass ratio, so it's not like I'm not trying to run. I think the best run I've had was a 16 yard gain.

Then again, I always used to play and keep it at Pro to run up the score. I love the offensive side of the game and rolling up on teams.

[FrankySox]

Also, why is it that I can beat the Cowboys 35-7 and the Colts 21-3, but I barely scraped by the Lions 29-26 in overtime, and nipped the Falcons 11-10?

My guess is because you are using Madden IQ and the "MySkill" setting, which in my eyes doesn't work. Hey you just tore up the Colts secondary, we are now going to make your qb accuracy 0 so you can't pass on the Falcons... Just a guess but what do I know.

[captainfrizo]

I love Madden. I got hooked on the game about 10 years ago. I've given GameDay, NFL 2K_, and other games a shot but I always came back to Madden.

That said, this year's game is a huge disappointment to me. It's like they decided to mate GameDay and NFL 2K5 and this is the bastard child they produced. The newer upbeat style and tempo doesn't do anything for me at all, and wide receivers running directly out of bounds with 10 yards of open field is inexcusable. Not to mention playing on D with the faster tempo is a pain in the ass. The franchise mode hasn't seen many changes or updates either.

I was really looking forward to this year's Madden, but now it looks like I'll be heading back to NCAA Football 2009, which gets my vote for the best football game of the year.

[FrankySox]

I love Madden. I got hooked on the game about 10 years ago. I've given GameDay, NFL 2K_, and other games a shot but I always came back to Madden.

That said, this year's game is a huge disappointment to me. It's like they decided to mate GameDay and NFL 2K5 and this is the bastard child they produced. The newer upbeat style and tempo doesn't do anything for me at all, and wide receivers running directly out of bounds with 10 yards of open field is inexcusable. Not to mention playing on D with the faster tempo is a pain in the ass. The franchise mode hasn't seen many changes or updates either.

I was really looking forward to this year's Madden, but now it looks like I'll be heading back to NCAA Football 2009, which gets my vote for the best football game of the year.

Faster tempo? Please explain, the game seems much slower to me. I'm in the same boat as you though I'm not too fond of the game right now, pretty much for the opposite reason. It just seems like the art that comes up in between plays slows the game down. I like you will probably be headed back to NCAA.

[Danil ACE]

It comes with a complete version of Head Coach 09.
Hmm that's actually not a bad deal then. I might just have to pick this up then.

[captainfrizo]

Faster tempo? Please explain, the game seems much slower to me. I'm in the same boat as you though I'm not too fond of the game right now, pretty much for the opposite reason. It just seems like the art that comes up in between plays slows the game down. I like you will probably be headed back to NCAA.

It just seems the game on the field is much faster than last year (and any year prior), where as in the past the game was slower and a bit more methodical. It's much more noticeable for me on defense. Granted, speed is more of a perception factor than anything since it will vary from person to person, but to me it just seems like Madden 2008 Turbo Edition w/even more questionable A.I. The player models do look real nice though.

[Pure Apathy]

I bought the Madden CE the night the game came out but then had second thoughts on actually opening it up. I've been reading what others think about the game and while there are some who say positive things about it, I'm mostly hearing nothing but negatives. I've decided I'm just going to return the game and buy NHL & FIFA 09. It's starting to look like the only good EA sports games are the ones EA has competition with.

Right now Blitz: The League 2 is looking like it'll be my football game this year.

[Matt Young]

I bought the Madden CE the night the game came out but then had second thoughts on actually opening it up. I've been reading what others think about the game and while there are some who say positive things about it, I'm mostly hearing nothing but negatives. I've decided I'm just going to return the game and buy NHL & FIFA 09. It's starting to look like the only good EA sports games are the ones EA has competition with.

Right now Blitz: The League 2 is looking like it'll be my football game this year.

You will regret this for the rest of your life. Blitz: TL was good, but had little replay value. Madden 09 is the best football game ever. WE MUST PLAY PACKERS VS. BEARS!

[Pure Apathy]

You will regret this for the rest of your life. Blitz: TL was good, but had little replay value. Madden 09 is the best football game ever. WE MUST PLAY PACKERS VS. BEARS!

I really want to play Bears vs Packers with you, but I just can't talk myself into opening the game up.

[deszaras]

I've been very pleased with the game so far but take that for what you will considering I haven't bought a football game since ESPN 2k5 came out. I'm not sure I understand what up-tempo things captain frizo is referring to unless he's talking about the speed on defense. I hardly have time to make any adjustments. Other than that, the game goes at a generously slow pace. I have been frustrated when receivers at times go out of bounds in the flat. Overall, those are very small grievances within a great game.

[FrankySox]

Madden 09 is the best football game ever.

Stay out of the booooze man, or the herowana, or whatever the hell you've gotten into.

[SteveMcQ]

I don't know about being "the best football game ever", but this one is damn good. It's certainly the best Madden of this console generation (which, I know, isn't saying much). I really have little to complain about outside of how incredibly difficult it is to run, but then again, having it set me on All-Madden is a far cry from my usual Pro with adjusted sliders.

The animations are freaking awesome and I could safely say it's the best looking football game ever.

[FrankySox]

I don't know about being "the best football game ever", but this one is damn good. It's certainly the best Madden of this console generation (which, I know, isn't saying much). I really have little to complain about outside of how incredibly difficult it is to run, but then again, having it set me on All-Madden is a far cry from my usual Pro with adjusted sliders.

The animations are freaking awesome and I could safely say it's the best looking football game ever.

Yeah, it's a good game. It's really starting to grow on me. This game is damn hard, I raped people online last year and the computer as well. Offense is extremely hard this year, and it's REALLY hard to run. However I've made a nice set of sliders and I tested them out with a wide range of teams and it seems to work. I can run well with the Vikings and Patriots and teams like that but the Texans, it's just not happening. You really have to switch up your plays this year as well.

Also the patch seems to have fixed my online troubles, so if anyone ever wants to play a game send me an invite or let me know. I'm usually on because I have no life, I wonder how long it'll be before I get fat?

[SteveMcQ]

Are CBs slower in the game as well? I know Indy doesn't have any speedsters at CB, but I've had a few interceptions where I was running down the sideline and got caught by the QB. I'm pretty sure Marlin Jackson could outrun Chris Redman. I was holding down the RT as well, but maybe it's just the animation that's throwing me off (plus it really bothers me how the DBs hold the ball out with one hand while running in the clear).

Another case, I had Dallas Clark run free in the flat only to be caught by a second-rate DB. I've seen this guy outrun speedsters at DB in live game-action.

[Matt Young]

FrankySox, which football game do you think is better than this?

Who has Head Coach?

[FrankySox]

FrankySox, which football game do you think is better than this?

Who has Head Coach?

Madden 08, Madden 05, NCAA 06, ESPN 2k5....for now that is my list. Not in any order. I'm also really thinking that NCAA 09 might be better. I like Madden 09 more than I did a couple days ago so we'll see.

[FrankySox]

Are CBs slower in the game as well? I know Indy doesn't have any speedsters at CB, but I've had a few interceptions where I was running down the sideline and got caught by the QB. I'm pretty sure Marlin Jackson could outrun Chris Redman. I was holding down the RT as well, but maybe it's just the animation that's throwing me off (plus it really bothers me how the DBs hold the ball out with one hand while running in the clear).

Another case, I had Dallas Clark run free in the flat only to be caught by a second-rate DB. I've seen this guy outrun speedsters at DB in live game-action.

Yeah the defense is FAST

[Matt Young]

Madden 08, Madden 05, NCAA 06, ESPN 2k5....for now that is my list. Not in any order. I'm also really thinking that NCAA 09 might be better. I like Madden 09 more than I did a couple days ago so we'll see.

I have never played Madden 2005 or NCAA 2006. Madden 08, you can make an argument for as it was the best prior to the release of 09, but I feel that 09 has improved on just about everything from 08. 2K5, I loved when it came out, but the last 2 iterations of Madden blow 2K5 out of the water. Seriously, go back and play it sometime. Nostalgia can cloud one's judgment.

Anyhoo, now that you apparently don't get d/c'ed during games, we should play.

[FrankySox]

I have never played Madden 2005 or NCAA 2006. Madden 08, you can make an argument for as it was the best prior to the release of 09, but I feel that 09 has improved on just about everything from 08. 2K5, I loved when it came out, but the last 2 iterations of Madden blow 2K5 out of the water. Seriously, go back and play it sometime. Nostalgia can cloud one's judgment.

Anyhoo, now that you apparently don't get d/c'ed during games, we should play.

Yeah when? I'm good to go anytime biatch

Madden o5 and Ncaa 06 were awesome. If those had updated graphics and rosters I'd be playing those instead.

[shinryuu]

I disagree, the last two Maddens were disappointments as they attempted to make the next step in the nextgen consoles. This year, it's much more polished as they finally solved some, not all, of the major, but little, problems. Only thing they need to retool is Franchise mode and put back Owner mode, but I heard that's already being solved in 2010, as they put the Head Coach director to lead that feature.

[FrankySox]

I disagree, the last two Maddens were disappointments as they attempted to make the next step in the nextgen consoles. This year, it's much more polished as they finally solved some, not all, of the major, but little, problems. Only thing they need to retool is Franchise mode and put back Owner mode, but I heard that's already being solved in 2010, as they put the Head Coach director to lead that feature.

To be fair, I also have only played about 16-18 games of this year's Madden. I'm not going to play only a few games and judge it as a whole with the little time I've had with it. This could very well end up being my favorite, but as of now it's not.

[Admiral Ackbar]

This afternoon, Ike Reese was discussing Madden with a caller on WIP. Since he's retired from the game, he started hosting segments of 610WIP Radio. During the call he gave out his gamertag on the air. Even the caller advised him not to do it, but Ike basically said he'll take on anyone at anytime.

I'm assuming he created an account just to play Madden with people. So I'd thought I'd share it with the Madden afficionado's on CAG in case you want to play a former NFL Linebacker.

Gamertag: Legendof58

He said he'd most likely be playing after 10:30 once he puts his kids to bed. However, eh also soemtimes hosts a night show, but he's been working days recently since the normal day host just got married.

[Matt Young]

FrankySox and I just played. With 1:19 left, I kicked the field goal that probably would have tied it up at 10-10, and then *boom* connection to opponent lost. This resulted in us both shouting "WHAT THE FUCK?!" simultaneously, and then signing off frustrated and unsatisfied.

[popemogoth]

Pretty good game with extra features but I wish we could have more bonus content and freedom. Bring back ESPN/NFL Network. Ripped jerseys anyone? Cheerleaders on the sidelines? Team Mascots roaming the endzone? What happened to training camp position battles? These little things that the game is lacking makes a huge difference.

[shinryuu]

Yeah, I wish the whole Franchise was like last-gen. I miss those training camp drills and would very well prefer them over these new exercises. Ripped jerseys? Meh. Cheerleaders? Eh. Team mascots? You rarely see them on TV anyways. They have some NFL Network collaboration in Head Coach, so I was kinda surprised they didn't do anything with them in Madden. They should have a half time and post game report with the highlights, rather than giving you a list. =p *coughNFL2k5cough*

[crunchb3rry]

I just wish there would be a review for a Madden game where they told you everything that was in it. Not assuming you've played every single prior release and only list the new additions.

Good point a couple posts up. No cheerleaders, no other sideline activity, no real ESPN type presentation. All of that makes it feel less like a televised football game. The game still feels like that NCAA basketball game on SNES, where you played on a court in the middle of a total void. Stupid EA is still so focused on plastering their logo all over the HUD.

They should get rid of their shitty HUD graphics and put actual official ESPN tickers and all that up. Get that pain in the ass EA logo off the screen. Soul Calibur 4 doesn't have everyone fighting in Namco t-shirts. So EA needs to get over themselves and just put out the game instead of a perpetual advertisement. Make it look like televised football, not EA ego stroking.

[FriskyTanuki]

I like that receivers are a bit more aware of their surroundings, as I've had a few overthrown passes to my TE caught by the WR about 10 yards behind him.

Managed to beat the crap out of Cincy with my Browns after having three straight close games against Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. I definitely made the right choice in starting Brady Quinn over Derek Anderson.

[MSUHitman]

Fuck Microsoft and Fuck EA. My franchise game just froze when I was up 94-7 and Matt Forte just set a new NFL rushing record for a single game. I also had 8 INT's of Delhomme. I can't even upload the highlights I made! :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:

[FriskyTanuki]

Is it just me or does the football spin when the center goes to grab it at the line of scrimmage?

[doubledown]

I had Madden freeze on me twice during my franchise. It happened in the 1st Qtr and during the schedule screen.

[Lokki]

Is it just me or does the football spin when the center goes to grab it at the line of scrimmage?

haha not just you. I've noticed it as well. It's like he is using the Force when he lines up and the ball spins up to his hand.

[popemogoth]

I just wish there would be a review for a Madden game where they told you everything that was in it. Not assuming you've played every single prior release and only list the new additions.

Good point a couple posts up. No cheerleaders, no other sideline activity, no real ESPN type presentation. All of that makes it feel less like a televised football game. The game still feels like that NCAA basketball game on SNES, where you played on a court in the middle of a total void. Stupid EA is still so focused on plastering their logo all over the HUD.

They should get rid of their shitty HUD graphics and put actual official ESPN tickers and all that up. Get that pain in the ass EA logo off the screen. Soul Calibur 4 doesn't have everyone fighting in Namco t-shirts. So EA needs to get over themselves and just put out the game instead of a perpetual advertisement. Make it look like televised football, not EA ego stroking.

Well Said! Good point on the EA logo. I just realized that when I tried simulating to the pro-bowl to see if they had made the players wear team helmets but instead it was the stupid EA ones.

[slickkill77]

Fuck Microsoft and Fuck EA. My franchise game just froze when I was up 94-7 and Matt Forte just set a new NFL rushing record for a single game. I also had 8 INT's of Delhomme. I can't even upload the highlights I made! :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:


Up the difficulty?.....

[FrankySox]

Fuck Microsoft and Fuck EA. My franchise game just froze when I was up 94-7 and Matt Forte just set a new NFL rushing record for a single game. I also had 8 INT's of Delhomme. I can't even upload the highlights I made! :bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:

Yeah, you'll probably be able to do the same thing with the settings on rookie. My guess is that Matt Forte doesn't get 300 yards all year, let alone in a game. 94-7, wow.

[Advocatus]

Wow superstar mode is fun. I made a TE and got drafted by the Saints. Unfortunately I did too well on the training exercises and ended up with a 96 rating to start... that unlocked too much of the game at the get go (ie I had all of the agents unlocked) and I have nowhere to go stat wise. I'd rather start at 82 and work my way up to mid 90s.

That said I love the camera angles... I love pancaking defenders on running downs.

[SteveMcQ]

This Madden IQ thing is starting to get annoying. Rather than upping the opposing AI, it seems like it's dumbing down my player ratings once I get a high IQ. I'm seeing Peyton overthrow players by 5 yards or Wayne and Harrison dropping balls that are sure catches.

[FrankySox]

This Madden IQ thing is starting to get annoying. Rather than upping the opposing AI, it seems like it's dumbing down my player ratings once I get a high IQ. I'm seeing Peyton overthrow players by 5 yards or Wayne and Harrison dropping balls that are sure catches.

Yeah IQ is dumb. I read on operation sports something about "Dummy Sliders" where you make a profile with sliders for the computer, which would make the computer smarter and not the user dumbed down. However this seems a little too tedious for me, I'm hoping they eventually incorporate a patch with computer sliders. IQ is really stupid, because if I'm playing with a bad team my IQ will fall and they just make my players worse, which in my mind doesn't add any challenge just frustration. If I'm good at passing don't make my Qb's accuracy 0, make the D's awarness higher. It's another stupid gimmick from EA and I can't even begin to tell you how much I hate it. Play a game with the Vikings and run all over (like you probably should be able to do) and you AI goes up, then play a game with the Dolphins and you can run for a shit. I could go on and on, atleast you can just use your own sliders (which I'm doing) or set it at one of the default difficulty settings.

[SteveMcQ]

Yeah IQ is dumb. I read on operation sports something about "Dummy Sliders" where you make a profile with sliders for the computer, which would make the computer smarter and not the user dumbed down. However this seems a little too tedious for me, I'm hoping they eventually incorporate a patch with computer sliders. IQ is really stupid, because if I'm playing with a bad team my IQ will fall and they just make my players worse, which in my mind doesn't add any challenge just frustration. If I'm good at passing don't make my Qb's accuracy 0, make the D's awarness higher. It's another stupid gimmick from EA and I can't even begin to tell you how much I hate it. Play a game with the Vikings and run all over (like you probably should be able to do) and you AI goes up, then play a game with the Dolphins and you can run for a shit. I could go on and on, atleast you can just use your own sliders (which I'm doing) or set it at one of the default difficulty settings.Completely agree. Madden IQ was a good idea, but executed poorly. What should've been something that helps the player, has instead turned out to hamper the way they can play the game. I'm hoping this is easily patchable, as I'd really like to see this idea develop.

They also need to do something more with the Virtual Trainer rather than what it currently is--a glorified practice. Point out to me how to read the safeties to know the coverage scheme. Tell me how to read what route the WR will run in a WR option. That's what I had thought it was going to be from the previews--a feature that helps you gain more football knowledge that you would otherwise overlook in past Maddens or watching the game on TV. But instead, in the higher difficulty settings (for the passing drills) I have to both read how the defense shifts in the coverage while guessing what patterns my receivers will run. Yeah, that makes plenty of sense.

Seems like lots of complaints, but unlike in past Maddens, I think most every feature set and gameplay element is here in this version. They just need to fine tune and tweak things.

[FrankySox]

Completely agree. Madden IQ was a good idea, but executed poorly. What should've been something that helps the player, has instead turned out to hamper the way they can play the game. I'm hoping this is easily patchable, as I'd really like to see this idea develop.

They also need to do something more with the Virtual Trainer rather than what it currently is--a glorified practice. Point out to me how to read the safeties to know the coverage scheme. Tell me how to read what route the WR will run in a WR option. That's what I had thought it was going to be from the previews--a feature that helps you gain more football knowledge that you would otherwise overlook in past Maddens or watching the game on TV. But instead, in the higher difficulty settings (for the passing drills) I have to both read how the defense shifts in the coverage while guessing what patterns my receivers will run. Yeah, that makes plenty of sense.

Seems like lots of complaints, but unlike in past Maddens, I think most every feature set and gameplay element is here in this version. They just need to fine tune and tweak things.

Yes, I would definitely like to see this get some works as it seems like a good idea if all the components could fall in place. Learning how to read defenses would be sweet. Also I shouldn't be getting an All-Madden IQ rating for my rushing attack just because I'm the best "Simon Says" player in the world. I really enjoy the game and I really doubt will see a patch for this, but hopefully it can be fine tuned for 2010.

[MSUHitman]

Up the difficulty?.....

Yeah I'm trying to find the right one. [FYI I'm doing 8 min. quarters] The Colts beat me 49-0 when I had the game on Pro so I thought I would try it on rookie. Since I haven't played Madden since 06 on the PS2, I'm really out of practice.

Oh I was able to upload my highlights, but the game was gone. My best all-time Madden score against the CPU was 103-7 with the Cowboys in Madden 94 (SNES) over the Bucs on Pro.

[FrankySox]

Yeah I'm trying to find the right one. [FYI I'm doing 8 min. quarters] The Colts beat me 49-0 when I had the game on Pro so I thought I would try it on rookie. Since I haven't played Madden since 06 on the PS2, I'm really out of practice.

Oh I was able to upload my highlights, but the game was gone. My best all-time Madden score was 103-7 with the Cowboys in Madden 94 (SNES) over the Bucs on Pro.

That's insane you got beat by 49 on pro but won by almost 100 on rookie, is the setting really that change really that dramatic. I don't know as I've always played on all-pro but that seems crazy. Maybe you could try creating a setting in between the two or something.

[SoulReaver]

That's insane you got beat by 49 on pro but won by almost 100 on rookie, is the setting really that change really that dramatic. I don't know as I've always played on all-pro but that seems crazy. Maybe you could try creating a setting in between the two or something.
Maybe he did so good on rookie because it was on Madden 94....

[MSUHitman]

Well the main thing was Delhomme throwing 7 INT's (I think maybe 5 of them were pick 6's) in the first half and every juke/highlight stick I did with Forte getting him a lane to the house.

I guess I'll either set it to the Madden IQ (which has fallen to under 500) or pro and see what happens. I thought the change from rookie to pro was drastic also.

[Matt Young]

That's crazy, the difference between Pro and Rookie. I had been undefeated in 24 games vs. the CPU and humans, but I finally lost to RawIsJericho online. Against the CPU, I'm playing MySkill, where everything but rush offense is on All-Madden.

[MSUHitman]

Are there any gameplay bugs in Madden like the ones that have riddled NCAA? I have an issue with the challenge system but that's all I've experience so far.

[doubledown]

There are glitches in Madden also. Apparently the 2nd patch will be releasing next week possibly.

I had one glitch where I punted the ball....it CLEARLY went out at about the 3 yard line and it was ruled a touchback.

[shinryuu]

There's a few bugs and jitters, but none that I've experienced to be gamebreaking. There's that WR direct snap glitch that lots are abusing online, but apparently EA is making an effort to forfeit those who've been using that glitch. Occasionally you'll see some weird ones. I had one where I kicked it off back in the goalline, which would be a touchback, but for some reason ended up on my 30. And another one where there was some weird glitch with floating players, and you couldn't hike the ball on offense because a floating player wasn't lining up.

They fixed an issue where when flats were caught by the backs they'd run to the sideline, but they didn't fix it so well with the CPU, who sometimes heads out of bounds rather than downfield.

Again, nothing gamebreaking, but with patch #2 and free DLC coming out within the next weeks (I heard mid-Sept, but doubledown says next week?), you'll be able to set CPU sliders and some other things tweaked like the CPU's insane QB accuracy.

[SteveMcQ]

They fixed an issue where when flats were caught by the backs they'd run to the sideline, but they didn't fix it so well with the CPU, who sometimes heads out of bounds rather than downfield.I still get that, especially with receivers. It's really quite annoying since the flats are open a whole lot against the CPU.

[Lokki]

I've noticed some weird things from the announcers. On a few occasions, it will be like 2nd and whatever for me and time will be running out in the half and I'll select my play. When my guys line up, the announcer will say something about my questionable play call and that it is a punting situation. Umm yeah.. ok...

[Soodmeg]

Man I can't wait until my internet is back so I can chime in. Typing on a black berry is a pain.

Anyway I think this game is a 6. Not horrid but not great just serviceable.

But like you guys have said the presentation is so lacking its almost to get into the game. You were spit on with the constent logos.

2 things is there any way to turn off the es beakdown thing that happens after you throw a pick. I hate the fact that it only comes up when you the user messes up. I mean I am lucky if the game even mentions that I got an interception. Why can't he breakdown what the cpu did wrong.

That leads me to this as any one noticed the fact that the game tries its hardest to avoid saying alones name. Like I am playing with the titans and I can go through an entir game without the mention of Vince young. The audio in this game is the worst I have heard. I have had the game for 3 days and have Gerard everything. Can't be more than 100 lines in the game.

[Soodmeg]

Sorry for the mistakes on the last post. Typing on a black berry.

Ugh I need my internet to be hooked up.

[popemogoth]

Have any of you experienced in Franchise mode with a created team in the rookie scouting screen the names are off. I get a 100% bug recreate.

[Advocatus]

I've had a bunch of bugs too, the one announcer AND Madden suggestion that I punt the ball on 2nd down with 0:48 left in the first half. That bug feels like we're playing hot potato and not football.

I couldn't figure out how to save a replay, but I've had one play where the receiver caught the ball with one foot on the line and the other foot didn't come down until way past the line. I challenged the call and they kept the reception call. Is the challenge even used in this game? I've had other really questionable reception calls, and the like.

I love the flashback where they tell me I should have thrown to the triple covered wide out.

The bugs regarding receptions and touchbacks are troublesome.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Did the 2nd Madden League disappear? If so I have a 17 person league going that could use some of you guys to fill in.

[shinryuu]

You can turn off the breakdown thing by setting the mode to hardcore rather than advanced.

[drbutchevil]

There are glitches in Madden also. Apparently the 2nd patch will be releasing next week possibly.

I had one glitch where I punted the ball....it CLEARLY went out at about the 3 yard line and it was ruled a touchback.

Have had that happen quite a few times, really a kick in the balls for someone who knows how to punt the ball, however, I'm not 100 % sure of the rule and the NFL rulebook didn't prove too useful in regards to it.

[doubledown]

Have had that happen quite a few times, really a kick in the balls for someone who knows how to punt the ball, however, I'm not 100 % sure of the rule and the NFL rulebook didn't prove too useful in regards to it.

The rule is the ball is spotted wherever it goes out of bounds (even if it is in the air still) on a punt.

Not sure what Madden is using for logic...maybe they are considering where it lands on the bounce out of bounds...who knows. Does suck though.

I keep getting freezing in Franchise also.

[guyver2077]

has anyone been able to get the downloadable cover to print correctly...?

i cant get it to come out right on a 8.5x11 sheet

[shinryuu]

I'm not even bothering with Franchise. It just isn't the same as last gen and I can't get accustomed to it. =p

[chef_larry]

has anyone been able to get the downloadable cover to print correctly...?

i cant get it to come out right on a 8.5x11 sheet


Go to gamestop.com and the madden 09 page will have a link to it in the right size

[guyver2077]

Go to gamestop.com and the madden 09 page will have a link to it in the right size

thanks ill give it a shot.. big size diff though.. the ea one was like 12 mb

[Soodmeg]

Dude the god damn pas defense in this game blows ass.

I have all stars at the db position that include asante Samuel and Chris hope.

In the odd season I spent all my money on Dbs. Just to watch every qb be able to throw a fade away pas like the were Jordan.

Its not even like the pasess are hard to catch either. They are perfect chest high in stride like they had all day to throw. Getting pressure on the qb seems to be worthless when every qb can be god damn fully horizontal and still make an easy pass.

I have now taken to unlimited rewinds and rewinding every time that happens.

Yeah its a little cheap but I find Rex grossman being able to through 40 yard strikes perfectly off his back foot to be a little cheap also.

Damn ea for not having sliders. Any way to take down a cpu qb accuracy.

[guyver2077]

i actually dont really like the rewind feature.. ill turn it off whenever i can..

Im actually not bad on pass defense but i can not get to the qb for shit from the d line...

[shinryuu]

Dude the god damn pas defense in this game blows ass.

I have all stars at the db position that include asante Samuel and Chris hope.

In the odd season I spent all my money on Dbs. Just to watch every qb be able to throw a fade away pas like the were Jordan.

Its not even like the pasess are hard to catch either. They are perfect chest high in stride like they had all day to throw. Getting pressure on the qb seems to be worthless when every qb can be god damn fully horizontal and still make an easy pass.

I have now taken to unlimited rewinds and rewinding every time that happens.

Yeah its a little cheap but I find Rex grossman being able to through 40 yard strikes perfectly off his back foot to be a little cheap also.

Damn ea for not having sliders. Any way to take down a cpu qb accuracy.
CPU sliders and CPU QB accuracy is being addressed in the next patch/DLC. People have been making dummy accounts for CPUs to use to address some of these issues. I'm not sure how it works, but I'm guessing you change the sliders of the dummy account to be used for the CPU.

[Soodmeg]

Man people have to remember its not all of ea that sucks its just es tibiron that drops the ball all the time.

They are the kings of taking very simple things and making them overly complex.

I would love to just sit in on a meeting. Just to watch how they come up with these things.

All amdden IQ is is just preset sliders. That's it. And only tibiron could something like preset sliders and spend an entire year over complicating it into a system that actuall works worse than the previous one.

I just don't get why they spend there time on gimmicks every year.

[guyver2077]

any idea when the next roster update is coming?

hopefully pacman jones will be back in

[SteveMcQ]

Is it just me or are there McDonald's Dollar Menu ads on the game/drive stats now?

[mvp828]

Alright... Well I have been a Madden fan ever since Day 1... And so far this is absolute shit. It freezes non-stop. And not just on one system... It has froze 10 times in an hour in a half between both my systems and my brothers systems. Also, is it just me or does the screen just have way too much shuit going on?

[Soodmeg]

You know they could most likely free up a lot of space and cut down on slow downs and freezes if they didnt try to jam pack every other second with, "This game is brought to by EA." "By the way lets take this time to thank the people at EA" "EA SPORTS if its in the game its in the game"

"EA yeah we are that conceited"

[guyver2077]

playing franchise with default 5 min quarters.. after looking at the weekly game stats. im wondering if the cpu games stats are based on 5 min quarters as well..

i think ive always had this issue with sport games..

[Soodmeg]

playing franchise with default 5 min quarters.. after looking at the weekly game stats. im wondering if the cpu games stats are based on 5 min quarters as well..

i think ive always had this issue with sport games..

I dont think so, I just think madden has horrid stat tracking to begin with.

I actually really like the rewind feature. Not for cheating or making up for my bad plays but for nixing CPU cheating.

I am glad that I can actually say No madden Mike Furry will not jump over Asante Samuel and then break 3 tackles and out run my fastest FS for a 80 yard TD just because your losing and its at the end of a half or game.

Yes you have to have discipline to not use it all the time but guess what? I havent thrown a single controller since I have had the game and for me thats a madden record. And madden was the sole reason I started the controller graveyard.......ahhh PS2 controllers break so easily.

[Man of Ice]

Rewind is great for perfectionists, like me and really just getting better. When the game messes up like having the ball bouncing around for like 3 seconds in DB hands, and then being intercepted, I usually hit rewind, but other than that, it's usually for dumb mistakes and boosting stats.

Oh and I'm sick of crossing and slants beig used by the AI. No LB or DB for the life of them can defend even the slowest FB or TE running from sideline to sideline calling for a pass.

[Soodmeg]

Man, I am really getting sick of watching every single QB in this game being able to throw of their back foot with perfect strikes.

If you blitz the cpu (I only play off line) they will throw and instant strike of their back foot like it was taught yesterday.

Crazy.

[doubledown]

Yeah, I went back to playing NCAA09 for a while. Madden was good, but something felt off a bit. I am getting better at running, but I was only playing on Pro. The CPU QB's are still good on Pro...I will move up eventually, but NCAA09 is fun...

[MSUHitman]

Has anyone had the game freeze since the patch that came out Saturday night? Or was that just to put the McDonald's ad in there?

[Soodmeg]

Man the pass defense in this game makes me want to punch a kitten in the face with a puppy.

How the hell do you stop the CPU from completing instant passes? I am honestly at my wits end with this. Someone help me.

Also, any suggestions on how to get a kickoff return. I even signed Hester in the off season to boost my chances and I still cant get pass the 30.

[Matt Young]

Alright... Well I have been a Madden fan ever since Day 1... And so far this is absolute shit. It freezes non-stop. And not just on one system... It has froze 10 times in an hour in a half between both my systems and my brothers systems. Also, is it just me or does the screen just have way too much shuit going on?

I had tons of freezing issues with NCAA, but none with Madden, and I've played more games on Madden.

[Soodmeg]

Ok has anyone got this yet? I am only 2 games into my new season and they keep announcing that I have thrown for over 2 thousand and 4 thousand yards.

Its not a huge deal but the stats for all the commentary are completely wrong virtually all the time and that kind of oversight really weighs on you after a while. Its eye brown raising the first time you hear that MJD has 20 TD on the year when its the first game of the season after the 10th its fucking unbearable.

[Matt Young]

Apparently, the reason online games disconnect during late game field goals is because the players have 2 different camera types chosen. Damn you and your Classic Cam, FrankySox!

[Soodmeg]

Is it just me or are there McDonald's Dollar Menu ads on the game/drive stats now?

Yeah what the fuck is up with that?

I hate in game advertising. I wouldnt mind it so much if they took the massive amount of money they are making from it and actually used it to make a better game.

But its same old glitch filled madden and they are making even more money at our expenses.

[slickkill77]

Patch #2 is coming soon. This may give me incentive to buy the game some time....eh. Details below


Details on items that have been fixed with the second patch for Madden 09 are the topic of a brand new blog (http://www.easports.com/madden09/fullsite/blog.jsp?itemID=twoweek_update) posted by producer Ian Cummings on the Madden 09 website. Included are the disconnects that have been plaguing online, franchise progression, fixed exploits including the WR Direct Snap and Deep Ball glitches, field degradation, and gameplay improvements. Most of the gripes consumers have had with the game look as though they’ll be addressed in the coming patch. Not sure there is much more you can ask for out of this.
The work on the patch has been completed and is being submitted to MS and Sony on Tuesday. This puts the time frame to expect it to arrive still at least a few weeks out. Continue on to read the full list of issues and workarounds.

1. Kicking play disconnect: If two opponents play a game with two different camera angles, in any situation where a game winning or tying kick was to be made, a disconnect could occur. “ActionCam” forces the game to go into slow-motion to add drama to these late kicks, but unfortunately the Classic camera does not, thus forcing the “disconnect”. This has been fixed…all cameras can still be used as well.
Workaround until the patch: If possible, ensure that you and your opponent have the same camera type chosen before starting an online game.
2. Stability issues in the play call / halftime highlights / postgame highlights screens (especially in Franchise mode after training games): This was a hard one to track down as not everyone was seeing it , we did find the issue however with some Instant Replay / cache corruption, and have a fix ready for patch 2.
Workaround until the patch: Save and re-boot after any point where you have entered the game. We learned that the likelihood of this issue appearing is magnified after multiple loads into and out of the game engine. From what we’ve seen so far, people that have tried playing only one game at a time (or even one Franchise training session at a time), and saving/rebooting afterwards, have had zero crashes.
3. Stability issues with Madden IQ end of game popup: This has been fixed.
Workaround until the patch: Always choose “No” at the Madden IQ end of game popup.
4. “WR direct snap” exploit: Cheesers found an exploit to direct snap to a WR for easy short yardage gain. Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren’t removing it), we are also going to be re-setting records for anyone with a winning record that has been found to be using this play.
5. Franchise Progression / Regression (or lack thereof): The lack of higher numbers was a tuning value that I think everyone agreed was just too low. This has been juiced up so you should see more realistic progression now.
6. Edited players don’t progress: Players were not progressing after their jersey number (or pretty much any other attribute). This has been fixed.
7. Stability issue when exiting Madden ‘93 in CE version: This has been fixed.
8. Deep ball glitch: Some enterprising gamers found a way to throw a deep ball while crossing the LOS and hit a receiver wide open at a decent rate. We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.
9. CPU running out of bounds: This bug appears when the CPU tries to switch hands while running to the sidelines. This is fixed for patch 2.
10. Penalty sliders ineffective: A common complaint from the hardcore community was the lack of effect from the penalty sliders. We increased these substantially for patch 2.
11. Field degradation: Another common complaint was the lack of field degradation. Our effect was very subtle, which was also getting overshadowed by our lighting and post effects, so we increased this effect for the patch.
12. Stability issue with the Eagles and a full ring meter: We found and fixed a rare issue where the gamer could run into stability issues while using the Eagles in mini-game with a ring meter that was completely full.
13. Play call screen hitch: We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen
14. Prevent Defense issue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders sharing a deep zone/prevent assignment would loosen their coverage (because they thought the other guy was covering for them), which allowed the receiver to get behind them even though they were in Prevent.
15. Brett Favre stats: With the late addition of Brett Favre, we were not able to get his Career and Season statistics into the game for the roster update. This has now been added for patch 2.
16. Defensive Preplay Mis-cue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders would leave their man wide open in a Cover 3.
17. CPU quick-snap: A very common complaint on the forums was the speed at which the CPU snapped the ball. We added a random length of time (no less than 5 seconds) for the CPU to wait and even make pre-play adjustments.
18. Online playbook switch: We found and fixed an issue where playbooks were re-setting to the defaults after the playbook select popup was closed.
The patch is being tested as I write this and will be sent off for verification in the morning, so we are targeting less than a 3 week turnaround from today for this to hit the general public. (Woohoo!) We will also make sure to provide updates as the patch progresses through the 3rd party approval process. As a side note, as of this moment there have been no changes to database schema, so you won’t have to re-start your Franchise or delete any files.
It makes us very stoked to be able to make this many changes for a patch, and do them based directly on community feedback. There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn’t addressed, but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product. On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can. As for the rest of the items, I personally feel that we have hit a very good balance of top items because many of these issues can actually detract from an enjoyable experience, which is obviously the last thing we want.
And now that this patch is nearly out the door, I figured I’d drop some more good news… We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.
Who wants to bet that the part that I highlighted at the end will cost $5-$10?

[Azumangaman]

Patch looks great. Glad to see theyre doing it.

[Matt Young]

Saw that earlier at Operation Sports. It does indeed look good.

[SteveMcQ]

Wow, nice work on the patches. Hopefully they don't take that long to make it through.

[Matt Young]

Since they're having that play and win weekend, I played some random kid in Madden just now. No mic. He was the Jets against my Packers. I was pretty dominant on defense, but my offense, while really good, surprisingly, with the run, couldn't go all the way. But I took a 17-7 lead, and then he ended up cutting it to 17-14 when I made a dumb mistake and gave up a huge TD pass on 4th and 23.

I ran out the clock for the whole 4th quarter, making progress all the while. I wasn't going to give him a chance to win. It's smart football. I ended up kicking a field goal with 15 seconds left, and had received a message from the guy right before I kicked it. I also got one immediately after the game ended.

I had been prepared to send a "good game" message to the kid and give him good rep since I was so impressed that I had a good experience with a random player. But after finishing the game, I checked my messages:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3161/maddenkidlj8.png

*shakes head* Fucking people.

[Azumangaman]

Hahahaha. I actually played a random and won 24-14 and was really impressed and all I got was good game.
It was fun.

[GuilewasNK]

Patch #2 is coming soon. This may give me incentive to buy the game some time....eh. Details below


Details on items that have been fixed with the second patch for Madden 09 are the topic of a brand new blog (http://www.easports.com/madden09/fullsite/blog.jsp?itemID=twoweek_update) posted by producer Ian Cummings on the Madden 09 website. Included are the disconnects that have been plaguing online, franchise progression, fixed exploits including the WR Direct Snap and Deep Ball glitches, field degradation, and gameplay improvements. Most of the gripes consumers have had with the game look as though they’ll be addressed in the coming patch. Not sure there is much more you can ask for out of this.
The work on the patch has been completed and is being submitted to MS and Sony on Tuesday. This puts the time frame to expect it to arrive still at least a few weeks out. Continue on to read the full list of issues and workarounds.

1. Kicking play disconnect: If two opponents play a game with two different camera angles, in any situation where a game winning or tying kick was to be made, a disconnect could occur. “ActionCam” forces the game to go into slow-motion to add drama to these late kicks, but unfortunately the Classic camera does not, thus forcing the “disconnect”. This has been fixed…all cameras can still be used as well.
Workaround until the patch: If possible, ensure that you and your opponent have the same camera type chosen before starting an online game.
2. Stability issues in the play call / halftime highlights / postgame highlights screens (especially in Franchise mode after training games): This was a hard one to track down as not everyone was seeing it , we did find the issue however with some Instant Replay / cache corruption, and have a fix ready for patch 2.
Workaround until the patch: Save and re-boot after any point where you have entered the game. We learned that the likelihood of this issue appearing is magnified after multiple loads into and out of the game engine. From what we’ve seen so far, people that have tried playing only one game at a time (or even one Franchise training session at a time), and saving/rebooting afterwards, have had zero crashes.
3. Stability issues with Madden IQ end of game popup: This has been fixed.
Workaround until the patch: Always choose “No” at the Madden IQ end of game popup.
4. “WR direct snap” exploit: Cheesers found an exploit to direct snap to a WR for easy short yardage gain. Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren’t removing it), we are also going to be re-setting records for anyone with a winning record that has been found to be using this play.
5. Franchise Progression / Regression (or lack thereof): The lack of higher numbers was a tuning value that I think everyone agreed was just too low. This has been juiced up so you should see more realistic progression now.
6. Edited players don’t progress: Players were not progressing after their jersey number (or pretty much any other attribute). This has been fixed.
7. Stability issue when exiting Madden ‘93 in CE version: This has been fixed.
8. Deep ball glitch: Some enterprising gamers found a way to throw a deep ball while crossing the LOS and hit a receiver wide open at a decent rate. We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.
9. CPU running out of bounds: This bug appears when the CPU tries to switch hands while running to the sidelines. This is fixed for patch 2.
10. Penalty sliders ineffective: A common complaint from the hardcore community was the lack of effect from the penalty sliders. We increased these substantially for patch 2.
11. Field degradation: Another common complaint was the lack of field degradation. Our effect was very subtle, which was also getting overshadowed by our lighting and post effects, so we increased this effect for the patch.
12. Stability issue with the Eagles and a full ring meter: We found and fixed a rare issue where the gamer could run into stability issues while using the Eagles in mini-game with a ring meter that was completely full.
13. Play call screen hitch: We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen
14. Prevent Defense issue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders sharing a deep zone/prevent assignment would loosen their coverage (because they thought the other guy was covering for them), which allowed the receiver to get behind them even though they were in Prevent.
15. Brett Favre stats: With the late addition of Brett Favre, we were not able to get his Career and Season statistics into the game for the roster update. This has now been added for patch 2.
16. Defensive Preplay Mis-cue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders would leave their man wide open in a Cover 3.
17. CPU quick-snap: A very common complaint on the forums was the speed at which the CPU snapped the ball. We added a random length of time (no less than 5 seconds) for the CPU to wait and even make pre-play adjustments.
18. Online playbook switch: We found and fixed an issue where playbooks were re-setting to the defaults after the playbook select popup was closed.
The patch is being tested as I write this and will be sent off for verification in the morning, so we are targeting less than a 3 week turnaround from today for this to hit the general public. (Woohoo!) We will also make sure to provide updates as the patch progresses through the 3rd party approval process. As a side note, as of this moment there have been no changes to database schema, so you won’t have to re-start your Franchise or delete any files.
It makes us very stoked to be able to make this many changes for a patch, and do them based directly on community feedback. There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn’t addressed, but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product. On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can. As for the rest of the items, I personally feel that we have hit a very good balance of top items because many of these issues can actually detract from an enjoyable experience, which is obviously the last thing we want.
And now that this patch is nearly out the door, I figured I’d drop some more good news… We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.
Who wants to bet that the part that I highlighted at the end will cost $5-$10?


I wish I would have seen this before I bought the game.

[GuilewasNK]

Since they're having that play and win weekend, I played some random kid in Madden just now. No mic. He was the Jets against my Packers. I was pretty dominant on defense, but my offense, while really good, surprisingly, with the run, couldn't go all the way. But I took a 17-7 lead, and then he ended up cutting it to 17-14 when I made a dumb mistake and gave up a huge TD pass on 4th and 23.

I ran out the clock for the whole 4th quarter, making progress all the while. I wasn't going to give him a chance to win. It's smart football. I ended up kicking a field goal with 15 seconds left, and had received a message from the guy right before I kicked it. I also got one immediately after the game ended.

I had been prepared to send a "good game" message to the kid and give him good rep since I was so impressed that I had a good experience with a random player. But after finishing the game, I checked my messages:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3161/maddenkidlj8.png

*shakes head* Fucking people.

I hope you reported that dumbass.

[Soodmeg]

These updates just for ads are killing me. I feel like I should have been paid to view this many ads....or least only had to pay half the price of a game.

(Being a cheap ass I did anyway but god damn there is a lot of in game ads)

[shinryuu]

These updates just for ads are killing me. I feel like I should have been paid to view this many ads....or least only had to pay half the price of a game.

(Being a cheap ass I did anyway but god damn there is a lot of in game ads)
Well, they said they initially plan for the DLC to be free.. so maybe it's all part of the plan. 8-)

[guyver2077]

want that patch and a roster update to come out asap!!

now that rosters are pretty much set..we should have an update.

[GuilewasNK]

Man, what is with these lame quitters.

I just started online. I'm 3-2 now with a three game winning streak. Played a level 5 today, I was the 'Skins, he the Pats. I shut him and his spread offense down, leading 7-3 with 1 minute to go in the 4th quarter. I stop him again and he quits with 13 second left to go. I mean, what is the point of that. I'm going to win anyway at that point.

[Matt Young]

want that patch and a roster update to come out asap!!

now that rosters are pretty much set..we should have an update.

There was a roster update I had to download prior to my game against the dude mentioned above. Not sure what it changed, though, since I only use Green Bay.

[guyver2077]

it seems to promp you every time you play a game to download rosters..

ive checked the "latest" ones and they are still very out of date

[slickkill77]

Well the first week hasnt even started yet so I would wait for finalized rosters

[Matt Young]

it seems to promp you every time you play a game to download rosters..

ive checked the "latest" ones and they are still very out of date

Not me. That was my 12th online game, and it was the first time I had to download rosters since the first time I played.

[Ultimate Matt X]

What is the best way to break tackles in this game? My opponents seem to do it a lot better than me. Do you use the juke button, A, or the highlight stick?

[Soodmeg]

I rarely play madden online. Havent since 05 I think. Every madden seems to have some type of gamebreaking glitch that people just exploit online. Thats all madden is...who has the better nano glitch, rocket jump glitch, WR direct snap glitch etc etc.

I think I am going to play a couple games online what do I watch out for to avoid glitches?

I already know to not play the Raiders but is there something I can look at in their stats that would be a sign of glitching?

[Soodmeg]

Engage Rant. Sorry but it instantly pisses me off for some reason.

EA Tiburon fucking pisses me off to no end. Everything in madden is so god damn anti user its disgusting. Now most of these dont matter if you stay offline which I do 98% of the time and trust me offline has its share of huge problems to. But EA Tiburon seems to take pride in just fucking over users to no end. I dont even like playing sports games online. In fact I aviod playing any sports games online because they always come down to glitching.

I jump online for a little today. The first thing I notice is a god awful play calling screen. Why do they have 7 panels of complete nonsense is anyones guess. Why not fill those screens with something useful. You have, Personal stats which can be seen by just going to stats and really means nothing until after the game is over with anyway, Madden IQ which is fucking pointless, Madden tips which is basically the instruction book and some other crap.

Why not have your oppents breakdown. How many times they have passed to whom, if they run the same play over and over maybe that play should start to be drawn on on of those panels. Or maybe opponets tedecines do they pass to the right more middle or left. You could even tie this into their already existing online stat and I can view what percentage he likes to run on 1 downs or go for it on 4th. I mean something....anything.


But most importantly...what the hell is up with having to play the computer in an online game? Its simply EA if someone quits just give me the win. No I dont want to play the god damn computer and no I dont want partial stats. How is it fair that I have to play a Human that I apparently him better than but right after that have to play the near perfect CPU. And depending on what team they choose can prove to be hell. And if you do happen to lose that you now have wasted 30min of your life for nothing. There is nothing to gain but everything to lose.

And with the over all douch tools that madden players are you can expect to play the CPU at least 40% of the time as madden players have ALWAYS been known to quit and if they are not quiting they are glitching.

I just dont understand why I, the guy who stayed has to now jump through hoopes to get someone that I already won but now has to work twice has hard to get again. Lets not fool ourselves even an All pro Pats/colts/chargers team is still better than 80% of madden players anyway.

This reminds of a soccer game I played back on PS2. There litteraly was no option to quit a online game. In order to get out of it you had to reset your PS2 and sign back on. And guess what? No one quit. Because it was such a pain in the ass to get back on it wasnt worth it.

Disengage rant.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Anyone wanna play this afternoon? I'd like to play with some people I don't have to worry about cheesing me. If you're not already on my list just send me an invite and a message talking about Madden.

[Soodmeg]

What is the best way to break tackles in this game? My opponents seem to do it a lot better than me. Do you use the juke button, A, or the highlight stick?

I use the right stick a lot to break tackles. Seems to work. But I have MJD and he breaks tackles auto like a robot.

Also remember that you can break out of tackles in mid animation to, so I wind up just hitting right stick 4 or 5 times a down.

[doubledown]

I hope the new rosters come out soon....I would assume after the Week 1 games though. I want all the recent transactions...Rudi Johnson on the Lions!

[Plinko]

"We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them."


Let me be one of many to say that if this is not free it will be absolute garbage. Let's not start the precedence of charging for features that should already be in the damn game to begin with.

CPU sliders should have been in from the very beginning. Because of their inclusion in the previous years, ANY company who allows the computer to make the difficulty decision (especially the developers behind the Madden series, which has been notorious for bad AI) should include the sliders so the consumer can make the changes on their own. It was ludicrous to leave them out.

[DomLando]

"We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them."


Let me be one of many to say that if this is not free it will be absolute garbage. Let's not start the precedence of charging for features that should already be in the damn game to begin with.

CPU sliders should have been in from the very beginning. Because of their inclusion in the previous years, ANY company who allows the computer to make the difficulty decision (especially the developers behind the Madden series, which has been notorious for bad AI) should include the sliders so the consumer can make the changes on their own. It was ludicrous to leave them out.

No CPU sliders is killing this game for me. I was shocked to see they were not in the game and I thought I was missing something when I could not find them in the options. If that update does indeed come out I will only be happy if that shit is free. If not, I will never by another Madden game again.

[Soodmeg]

No CPU sliders is killing this game for me. I was shocked to see they were not in the game and I thought I was missing something when I could not find them in the options. If that update does indeed come out I will only be happy if that shit is free. If not, I will never by another Madden game again.

Agreed.

[DT778]

How do I check my record against other users?

[MSUHitman]

LOL Gamestop.com is sold out of the 360 version:

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/search.aspx?N=133&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=madden

[Soodmeg]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Ztf2aO6xU

[drbutchevil]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Ztf2aO6xU

LOL, nice.

[popemogoth]

lol I like your commentary.
Hammonds who?

[popemogoth]

Anyone else watching the NFL Kickoff Event? lol It's funny watching the security guys running after Keith Urban with a mic stand.

[Soodmeg]

Guess by the way these are not my videos. I think someone thought it was be with the camera. I am a black Jamaican you would know it was me and you wouldnt be able to understand my mumbling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnjvOaN-lKA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7clD8lxiVc

[SteveMcQ]

So this game sucks?

New rosters out yet?

[slickkill77]

They should come out today, but they are releasing another one on friday to update Tom Brady etc....

[GuilewasNK]

So this game sucks?

New rosters out yet?

The game is ok for the most part, but it does need polish.

The online component is horrible though. They really need to stop using their own crappy EA servers and improve the lobby and online interface. It's clunky and slow.

Also, they need to just give wins if someone disconnects against you. I have played 6 games, most against people with low D/C and 5 of 6 disconnected on me. Its irritating because I was leading most of those when they D/C and then I have to play though the end just to get a win.

[Soodmeg]

The game is average and for having the right to the NFL that is just not good enough anymore.

The real problem with madden is that there are so many little things wrong with the game that make the overall experience horrid. Like NK said the game needs a hell of a lot of polish because the nit picks just pile up. Every time I play the game I notice another thing wrong with it...you can let the first 4 or 5 slide but when it gets up into the 10-15-20 range its hard not to ignore them.

Especially since they seem to ignore game play errors for gimmicks every year that people hate and they trash the next year.

Its such a chore to play I just cant believe they allowed them to buy the rights. I am not even a NFL 2k fan, I never played a single one of them including the all mighty 2k5. I never played it. But I can see that not having compilation makes madden even trashier than it was.

Oh yes new rosters are out.

[guyver2077]

yea the rosters are out.. thank god

funny though how i had to assign the dollphins a kicker on the depth chart because they didnt have one alread set (rookie kicker is in the roster though)

[mvp828]

This game and EA just piss me off... I will be the first to say that I have always been a Madden fanboy and bought them all for the past 10 years at least. However, I will say that this year it has finally dropped to the point where I can't even consider saying it is better than the previous years.

Rushing is just an absolute pain in the ass even after adjusting the difficulty. I have gone from one point of getting absolutely stuffed everytime to barely decreasing the slider and breaking 9 yards everytime.

The challenge system is absolute atrocious. I can't even tell you how many times a player has caught the ball out of bounds and it was ruled complete and I was unable to challenge it.

CPU QB AI is absolute bull... I can understand some quaterbacks being dead on, but I mean come on. Most QBs will get sacked at least once a game when the D rushes just about every play.

[FrankySox]

Guess by the way these are not my videos. I think someone thought it was be with the camera. I am a black Jamaican you would know it was me and you wouldnt be able to understand my mumbling.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7clD8lxiVc


LMAO when he says "He... just... totally...pooped on Patrick Willis's 88 strength". Oh man that was fucking hillarious

[Soodmeg]

Its getting to the point where I just cant fucking play this game. (Dont worry I wont drop out of the leagues) But the shit is just getting crazy and I just how any one can play this game.

And not to start anything but this is the sole reason why I cant fucking stand playing the colts. They are one of many teams in which the computer will go in and take over your defenders and have them do something stupid just so they can complete a pass. It happens with every team but with the Colts, Pats, Bolts it just happens the most. This game isnt about skill its about what team the CPU wants to win certain situations. And like I said before if you are perfectly even with someone skill wise (as I was in the league when I vs the colts) they will always get the nod not because of the skill of the opposing person but beacuse the game will go in and fuck with your players just so make the supposed better team win. Its fucking stupid and unbearable. I see this happen all the time. All the time. It happened and wound up winning the game for the colts user in the leage game. He went for 2 XP and threw a 1 second bullet to a guy who was pressed and its not that I care if you catch the ball its the fact that my defend playing man coverage just stands there and watching that pass gets completed.

Here I made this video showing of what I am talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWYPrMDFu3c


And here is another vid to show someone else talking about the very same thing so you cant say its just a isolated thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKjeiE1EvMs&feature=related

[DT778]

What team is that in the blue in that last video?

[SteveMcQ]

I guess I just suck then 'cause Soodmeg beat me when I was playing the Colts.:cry:

What team is that in the blue in that last video?Looks like the Seahawks.

[Soodmeg]

What team is that in the blue in that last video?

I guess I just suck then 'cause Soodmeg beat me when I was playing the Colts.:cry:

Looks like the Seahawks.

That first video is mine I made it.

The second video is some guy just on youtube. He has made a lot of videos and has said in one of them that the team in blue is a created fantasy drafted team in his franchise called the New York Sharks.

[GuilewasNK]

I have been a huge fan of Madden for a long time, but this is the first time I am totally indifferent to the game. It is only ok, and the only reason I am keeping it is because I want to try to get a little more of my money's worth before I trade it for NBA 2K9.

The achievements are bizarre compared to last year. They seem to have picked random crap to do like 6 rushiing TD's with the Dolphins. What kind of crap is that?

Plus, they still haven't done shit with the ESPN license.

[guyver2077]

They seem to have picked random crap to do like 6 rushiing TD's with the Dolphins. What kind of crap is that?

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my favorite achievement :)

[BigAT]

Do they base weather off the location of the stadium or is it completely random? I just played an online game in Dallas and it was snowing.

(Yes, I know it can snow in Dallas, but it's still rather rare)

[shinryuu]

Online, the weather feels random. I rarely get a regular, sunny day or a rainy day. It's either cloudy, windy, or snowing, or some combination. Never sunny or raining.

[Soodmeg]

Its typical EA. They seemingly can never just make something right. I dont understand why they can never seem to just do something simple right.

They always reek of cutting corners.


People bitch about adding something as simply as weather online what do they do? They add it but dont take the time to do it right and now it Snows in Dallas or Huston, every other game has 17mhp even in cities that are known to have pretty steady weather.

Just so typical.

[pitfallharry219]

Something that continually pisses me off about this game is during the Madden moment where you have to score two TDs with two two point conversions as the Vikings against the Broncos. It jumps into it with about 5:45 left in the 4th, and it is 4th and 8 at around the Broncos' 20 yd line.

Here's where I get pissed. If you don't make that 1st down, then you're pretty much screwed. You've only got two timeouts, and even if you're able to miraculously score twice to tie the game, you fail if the score is still tied at the end of the 4th. It won't let you win in OT. Anyways, back to failing on that 4th down. If you don't get the 8 yards, then it's pretty much over. That's okay, right? You can just pause it and pick "Restart" like in every other situational mode in pretty much any sports game that has had them. WRONG. For some idiotic reason, you have to exit all the way back to the menu, pick the moment again, and sit through more loading screens. What makes this suck even more is the fact that I can't beat this one and the game only unlocks five or so at a time. The way it's looking now, I'll never get to the rest of them.

[neworlbush25]

Right when you fail a moment it asks you to retry, you just need to press A to retry

[pitfallharry219]

I know that, but on the particular one I'm talking about, you only fail when the 4th quarter ends. If you don't make that first down at the start, there's basically no hope of successfully completing the moment. You either have to play it down to :00 or exit all the way back to the menu.

[Matt Young]

I've gone back to unlock achievements in anticipation of Madden 10, but I've gotten 6 rushing touchdowns with the Dolphins twice and no achievement. I finished the game both times.