SACRED 2 - Gen. Discussion & Info - 5/12/09

[Poor2More]

Official Site- http://www.sacred2.com

Characters (so far)

- Seraphim
http://www.sacred2.com/index.php?id=46&L=1&setStyle=gut

- Shadow Warrior http://www.sacred2.com/index.php?id=110&L=1&setStyle=boese

- High Elf
http://www.sacred2.com/index.php?id=210&L=1&setStyle=gut2

Trailers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEduAU1NvuI - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEduAU1NvuI)
-Featuring an original song by Blind Guardian made directly for this game


Overview & Features

- 400+ Quest

- 50 Square Miles of lush terrain to explore and conquer

- Travel using mounts such as Hell Bounds, Horses and Dragons

- 2 to 4 player co-op over Xbox Live with seamless drop in & drop out
without ever interfering with the experience, Mob difficulty & Loot drop
adjust on the fly

Release Date
September 2008


I enjoyed the hell out of the first one for PC....I cant wait for some 2-4 co cop over Xbox Live, this is the closest thing we will get to Diablo III for the time being.


Credit
Sacred.com

[Bretters]

Wheeee

Can not wait for this :D

[BREVITY]

I dont think it will reinvent the wheel but it should be fun. I am sucker for these types of games and I cant believe I missed the first one of these after having played even some of the worst Diablo knock offs. I am in Mythos now and loving it so I am sated till this one drops.

[trq]

Excellent. Between this and Too Human, it looks like my "rare lootz" needs will finally be met.

I am in Mythos now and loving it so I am sated till this one drops.

How is Mythos? I kept thinking it was going to see some kind of final release, so I missed out on my chance at it.

[BREVITY]

You can still get in right now. I am liking it so far. A bit basic in many respects but fun and good to play while your listening to an audio book or pod cast.

[Logg]

I will be on this game like me on a crack rock

[tcrash247]

Looks really good. I enjoyed the first one on PC, it was the best D2 style game at the time. I'll definitely be getting this when it comes out.

[Halo05]

Ooh, so this is sort of like Diablo? Does it use randomly generated levels with certain set events like the Diablo games?

[TC]

Never heard of it before today. Will be watching. Thanks!

[Poor2More]

added a Trailers to the OP

The Band Blind Guardian is contributing Music to Sacred 2: Fallen Angel as seen in the trailer in the OP

[Poor2More]

Release date looked to be set in stone at November 2008 now

[Poor2More]

Ok guys, Game releases next week

[Nealocus123]

Ok guys, Game releases next week

Is that official? I've been keeping an eye on this because all the talk about it seems promising.

Edit: I guess it is being released next week, I'm super excited. I'll probably trade some stuff in and pick it up on day one. If anyone else grabs it add my GT and we can quest together. My GT is Nealocus.

[Poor2More]

Is that official? I've been keeping an eye on this because all the talk about it seems promising.

Edit: I guess it is being released next week, I'm super excited. I'll probably trade some stuff in and pick it up on day one. If anyone else grabs it add my GT and we can quest together. My GT is Nealocus.

Will do, Gamestop will have it in store this Tuesday

[Perfect*Ending]

Sounds like a good game that will last a long time.

I look forward to this as well. :)

[TC]

Looking forward to some CAG feedback on this game.

[gindias]

I was suprised that this game didnt show up in any sales papers this week. Given the extremely limited amount of games in this genre you would think it might sell decent on that fact alone, at least for the PS3. I ordered it for the PS3 from Amazon and hope it arrives by Friday like the site says.

[reapersaurus]

looking at this one closely......

[wampa8jedi]

I have a free copy of this pre-ordered--I'm really looking forward to it.

[Pck21]

Yea I'm going to keep my eye on this game. It looks interesting but I've been hearing about issues on the PC side and then I get flashbacks of Two Worlds...yuck.

[Logg]

I think I am going to go pick this up in the next hour or so and play it till the Cows come home. I have been reading hands on impressions and it sounds awesome. I love the Hack and slash games.

So If wants to play look me up I will be on.

Unearth4164

[Poor2More]

I got my copy, cant wait to try it out, been hearing great hands on impressions from other gamers of various sites

[Logg]

I got it after like 3 hours or so, I really like its pretty confusing at first and there is a ton to do but I really like it.

[Nealocus123]

Due to some pretty average reviews (60% from 3 major sources) I'm very hesitant to pick this up. I try to only buy one game a month (if that) at MSRP and I dunno if I'm willing to risk it on this.

[Logg]

I would say that the reviews are wrong. 1 Up just gave it a A-

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3174196&p=4

If you like Hack and Slash or have XBL you can play this game a long long time

[heathdud]

I will be on tonight. I hope it is as fun as others have said it is

[danh920]

gamestop advertises this with a bonus item

anyone know what that is?

[Poor2More]

I played this last night from 9pm to 4am, its so damn addicting. I also played with three other people online and damn framerate held up very well for what the reviewers would make think. This game will no doubt consume my gaming time for a long time. One thing that I really enjoyed in this game is teleport (click on team mates or way points on the map and bam your their) This game easily gets a 9.5.

I also enjoyed the grave that said "Reserved for all Critics" yes AMEN to that

[SynGamer]

Feel free to post the install size and performance on HDD versus DVD. It sounds like a lot of the problems could be solved by installing the game to your HDD. Can't wait to get this, just waiting for it to hit $40 or my Goozex copy to ship out (14th in line :-().

[Poor2More]

Feel free to post the install size and performance on HDD versus DVD. It sounds like a lot of the problems could be solved by installing the game to your HDD. Can't wait to get this, just waiting for it to hit $40 or my Goozex copy to ship out (14th in line :-().

6.5 GB, Installed on HD contains 2 second loadtime, very good framerate

[steveinneed]

I've been watching this game for a couple weeks now but I think I'm going to wait for it to drop to $40 or so first. I haven't bought too many games at the $60 price tag this generation of gaming and I don't want to start now.

[Poor2More]

I've been watching this game for a couple weeks now but I think I'm going to wait for it to drop to $40 or so first. I haven't bought too many games at the $60 price tag this generation of gaming and I don't want to start now.

This game is actually worth the full asking price

[DesertEagleXIX]

I would say that the reviews are wrong. 1 Up just gave it a A-

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3174196&p=4

If you like Hack and Slash or have XBL you can play this game a long long time

Tom Chick lost me at the first paragraph

"Action-role-playing games grew up in corridors. Some have wide corridors, and some have randomized corridors, but they're all corridors that lead from a starting town hub to a final boss fight. Sacred 2 doesn't stand for that. You go where you want, for as long as you want, and even when you want."

Sacred 2 disguises its corridors into shrubs; They don't look like wall, but you can't walk through them making them very much like...corridors.

On that note: let me pimp my own review: http://tech-gaming.com/2009/05/09/a-divine-time-sacred-2-review.aspx

[Poor2More]

Tom Chick lost me at the first paragraph

"Action-role-playing games grew up in corridors. Some have wide corridors, and some have randomized corridors, but they're all corridors that lead from a starting town hub to a final boss fight. Sacred 2 doesn't stand for that. You go where you want, for as long as you want, and even when you want."

Sacred 2 disguises its corridors into shrubs; They don't look like wall, but you can't walk through them making them very much like...corridors.

On that note: let me pimp my own review: http://tech-gaming.com/2009/05/09/a-divine-time-sacred-2-review.aspx

lol wow thats actually the first review I read for the game a view days ago, it was posted on another fourm, good review, never thought a CAG wrote it

[Raconteur]

Just got it, do people randomly join your game or?

[Poor2More]

Just got it, do people randomly join your game or?

You can set it to Friends only or Random

[Raconteur]

Ah, I see that now. I'm almost level 4, and I'm still fairly confused, but it's getting there. I can see a lot of time invested into this once I figure stuff out.

[jkanownik]

Tom Chick lost me at the first paragraph

"Action-role-playing games grew up in corridors. Some have wide corridors, and some have randomized corridors, but they're all corridors that lead from a starting town hub to a final boss fight. Sacred 2 doesn't stand for that. You go where you want, for as long as you want, and even when you want."

Sacred 2 disguises its corridors into shrubs; They don't look like wall, but you can't walk through them making them very much like...corridors.

On that note: let me pimp my own review: http://tech-gaming.com/2009/05/09/a-divine-time-sacred-2-review.aspx

1) Have you still been playing it after you were done with the review?

2) Have you played coop with your wife?

I've got my Amazon copy coming eventually but I'm debating whether or not to pick up a temp copy tonight.

[thrustbucket]

Does this version have blind guardian in it like the pc version does? If so, I am there.

[Raconteur]

This game is awesome. I am getting the hang of it.

It's so like diablo.

[Poor2More]

Does this version have blind guardian in it like the pc version does? If so, I am there.

Indeed it does, they also have a quest dedicated to them

[Logg]

I am up to level 16 Shadow Warrior, I am taking my time and doing all the side quests. I think its very fun.

[Poor2More]

Im lvl 21 Shadow warrior, I keep telling myself, just one more quest then time to shut it off for the night.....then it leads to another...then another

[Nealocus123]

I'm getting it in the next week. I ordered Halo Wars for $10 from Microsoft Expert Zone and I'm going to trade it to a friend for Sacred 2 so I'm really excited. I'll add all you guys once I get it. Hopefully your not too ahead as I do not really wanna power level lol.

[moonknight25]

This game should have gotten a lot more hype...its freakin awesome!

[DesertEagleXIX]

1) Have you still been playing it after you were done with the review?

2) Have you played coop with your wife?

I've got my Amazon copy coming eventually but I'm debating whether or not to pick up a temp copy tonight.

1) Yes, with periodic Raiden Fighters Aces Breaks.

2) No, she's playing Tetris DS right now. She's not into the D&D games.

3) Let me know when you get your copy, we'll quest together.

[Logg]

Got my first set piece and up to level 20. This game is beyond awesome.

[Wolve11]

It's strange so many people here like it considering that it got quite a few bad reviews by most game review places. I'll definitely have to try it when I get a chance.

[Brak]

Why did a -> cough <- mod delete my post? :lol: / :roll:

[Raconteur]

It's strange so many people here like it considering that it got quite a few bad reviews by most game review places. I'll definitely have to try it when I get a chance.
Don't ever trust game review sites...ever.

[shieryda]

It's strange so many people here like it considering that it got quite a few bad reviews by most game review places. I'll definitely have to try it when I get a chance.

Indeed. The reviews are all over the place. I've put this on hold through Goozex. Will be waiting for a bit to play some co-op.

Still waiting for another Baldur's Gate/Champions of Norrath, though.:cry:

[Bretters]

I bought it last night, have been waiting for a very long time for this. They need to do some marketing, I completely forgot it was coming out/assumed it was going to be delayed.

[thrustbucket]

Indeed it does, they also have a quest dedicated to them

badass! Blind Guardian kicks ass.

So it's 4 player co-op over live? Sounds awesome. Can you do 2 local and 2 on live?

[Logg]

Yes you can 2 player local and 2 more on live, I think both have to have gold though.

[steveinneed]

CDV are working on a patch for both the 360 and ps3 versions...


http://kotaku.com/5254610/console-sacred-2-could-use-a-little-fixing

[danh920]

bah, had mine 2 days now and havent had a free moment to play. stupid rl

what classes you all recommend? cant wait to get a little pt in this weekend

[ZForce]

the Shadow Warrior and Seraphim are the best beginner classes according to the manual. The former is a mostly pure melee fighter, while the Seraphim is a melee fighter with some magic thrown in.

[shieryda]

When I play these types of games with my bro-in-law, we like to have a ranged character (magic or arrows) and a brawler, or some such combo.

[Logg]

Man this game just keeps getting better and better

[prot0type]

Didn't even know about this game till yesterday when I started looking for any upcoming online co-ops.

quick question, does advancing in single player quests have any effect in co-op? As in are there separate main/side quests between single and co-op? Any more info would be great. Just looking for another online co-op type game for me and some of my friends.

[Tigresa]

I was wondering the same, I just got it (haven't had a chance to start it, probably when I get home tonight I will). Can I play through the main quest/story with friends? Or is that reserved for solo time?

Also -- I'd love to have a group to play with tonight, preferably people just starting like me or with a new character (don't want to be spoiled by power leveling or anything if it works like that in this game!). So if you want to play and need another teammate let me know! :]

[seanr1221]

Got the game from Gamefly and played for about 20 minutes.

It kind of stinks not having a booklet though.

How can I tell the difference between the quests on my map?

[Raconteur]

Look at your quests and look at the name. then look at your map and the little circles are your quests, scroll over them to see what name it says.

[seanr1221]

Thanks. Does the main quest differentiate itself?

[Moxio]

Sean, I warned you about this game!!! http://vendettadolce.com/forum/images/smilies/shoop.gif

[seanr1221]

So far I don't think it's too bad :-#

[Raconteur]

The game is quite awesome. Just takes some time to get used to.

And no ,the original quest doesn't differentiate itself. Only on the Quest menu, it'll have class quests or something like that on a different tab as the others, and that's your main one.

[Logg]

Level 34 now I love this game.

[Ken Barth]

So it seems fellow-CAGS are really enjoying this game.... i am def interested in picking it up for the ps3. Has anyone come across instances where the game fully crashes? It seems like diablo clones are famous for this, ie: titan quest!

Any slow-down to speak of that hinders how fun it is?

[Raconteur]

No crashes, only sometimes it takes like 1-3 seconds to load here and there, but only in big towns in some places as far as I saw so far. I haven't even installed it to my HD, so that would probably help it x2. It's not enough to ruin anything.

[seanr1221]

The game is really confusing to me.

How do I level up combat arts? Should I only be focusing on certain types of combat arts? (I'm a shadow warrior, any advice would help).

I also don't really know how relics work. And I found a pearl that can be placed in grey weapon slot, but I don't know how to get it in there.

Lastly, what are the combinations at the bottom of the Combat Arts screen.

I'm only an hour in and I feel pretty lost :/

[Raconteur]

I only have about 6 hours in myself, and I was lost for most of it, but little by little things started making sense. You just have to trial and error and keep on going. Thing become more clear the more you play and makes it that much better. I'm not really sure of the answers to those questions myself, I haven't even scratched the surface of the game.

[prot0type]

I'm digging the game so far. It's been awhile since I've played anything like this on a console, maybe not since MUA? A little more depth here of course. it's definitely a game you can easily lose track of time with, which is good and bad.

So I'm assuming if you're worshiping Ker and you summon a demon there's no way to dismiss it? Otherwise, having it chase me around did get me to explore more of the map, just not willingly :shock:

[seanr1221]

Ok I'm starting to understand more.

You should apparently only focus on one combat art (so you can become a master in it). However, you shouldn't focus on it early, as the regen time will hold you back.

So right now with my shadow warrior I'm focusing on physical sword attacks.

I think later down the line I might focus on summoning a little too.

[Logg]

How do I level up combat arts? Should I only be focusing on certain types of combat arts? (I'm a shadow warrior, any advice would help).

You level them up by finding more like any drop, you can also swap them at a Combart art master in towns. Putting one point in each is fine, after that its really how you wanna make your toon, longer recharge time the high level but more damage.




I also don't really know how relics work. And I found a pearl that can be placed in grey weapon slot, but I don't know how to get it in there.

Relics work like equipment that you equip up to 6 of them they mainly add to your defense and give you some skill points like Riding and a few others there is only 6 total they can add to.




Lastly, what are the combinations at the bottom of the Combat Arts screen.

When you go to the combart Arts screen you can create combo's that let you do up to 5 moves at once with one cast. That why you can do some crazy combo's, plus its a achivement.

I love this game I am level 34 right now.

[jkanownik]

Add my wife and I to the list of people that love this game. She's trying to talk me into calling in sick tomorrow so that we can play all day.

[btw1217]

I picked the game up last week, and I just really got started today. It's definitely sweet. I haven't played the online yet. Is that a lot of fun? I just learned how the skills, CA, and mods work. I still have more to learn though.

[Jest]

Wombat got me looking into this game. It seems pretty cool. Is there a lot of people playing in on Live? I haven't found a reason to not buy it on PS3 yet.

[btw1217]

Wombat got me looking into this game. It seems pretty cool. Is there a lot of people playing in on Live? I haven't found a reason to not buy it on PS3 yet.

I always buy multiplatform games for PS3, but I went 360 on this one, because I think the 360 will have more players online and better servers. Also, being able to install the game helps a lot. The load screens aren't bad, but since the game is just one giant world, it has to pause mid-play often to read the disc and load more data. Installing the game helps out with that significantly.

[danh920]

i really like this game, got a few hours in over the weekend. If anyone wants to play please send me a friend invite and maybe we can work something out

[SynGamer]

Could one of you guys/gals test the performance of the game on DVD vs. HDD. This sounds like a game that really benefits from being installed, so i'd like to mark it in my performance thread. Just a simple dashboard to title screen, and/or title screen to saved game, or something. Would really appreciate it :)

[shieryda]

Is the framerate as bad as I've heard?

[SynGamer]

Is the framerate as bad as I've heard?
I've heard it dips every now and then, but people here on the forums have said installing the game to the HDD pretty much fixes any framerate and loading issues.

[Raconteur]

Guys, it's not bad at all, and I'm not even playing it on my HDD.

[Ken Barth]

So i know that any game can be installed to 360 HDD, which would help out on the loading issues.... does the game have an option within the menu's to install on ps3?

I only have ps3, so if i purchase this game that will be the system i get if for.

[ianoid]

Indeed. The reviews are all over the place. I've put this on hold through Goozex. Will be waiting for a bit to play some co-op.

Still waiting for another Baldur's Gate/Champions of Norrath, though.:cry:

You must be my peeps. Those games are my favorites. I just ordered Sacred 2 from gogamer for $50 5 minutes ago.

The metacritic score is over 70 (75 right now), which I think is a pretty strong showing for a game that does nothing new, and doesn't even try to be the best. It's a hack n' slash grind, and it's what I've been waiting for. I hope. I hope it meets some success as well.

I am friends with one of the guys on the dev team (in Germany), and I heard they are working on bug fix updates. I don't really know what will make release or not (if anything), but it's nice to hear that even though the company is in bankruptcy proceedings, that they are trying to support the game.

It's too bad they don't have a demo. It could rope in a few players who are uncertain about the title.

[btw1217]

You must be my peeps. Those games are my favorites. I just ordered Sacred 2 from gogamer for $50 5 minutes ago.

The metacritic score is over 70 (75 right now), which I think is a pretty strong showing for a game that does nothing new, and doesn't even try to be the best. It's a hack n' slash grind, and it's what I've been waiting for. I hope. I hope it meets some success as well.

I am friends with one of the guys on the dev team (in Germany), and I heard they are working on bug fix updates. I don't really know what will make release or not (if anything), but it's nice to hear that even though the company is in bankruptcy proceedings, that they are trying to support the game.

It's too bad they don't have a demo. It could rope in a few players who are uncertain about the title.

I think you'll find that you'll be pleasantly surprised. I played Diablo extensively and Champions of Norrath a lot as well, and I find that this fits somewhere in between those two. The best way I can describe it is an impressive blend of the two with a very engaging, sophisticated, and enjoyable skill system.

[Nealocus123]

Bought it about 15 minutes ago and I'm super excited to start it up. Plus the Gamestop employee gave me the exclusive edition which gives you the free carrier imp.

[btw1217]

Bought it about 15 minutes ago and I'm super excited to start it up. Plus the Gamestop employee gave me the exclusive edition which gives you the free carrier imp.

The code won't work when you enter it, but don't throw it away. They're fixing that in the patch coming out soon.

[Nealocus123]

The code won't work when you enter it, but don't throw it away. They're fixing that in the patch coming out soon.

Yeah just read a couple of articles on it. That seems pretty weird, never would have thought a DLC code wouldn't work. No big deal.

I just watched the opening cinematic and it was awesome, I haven't been this excited for a game in awhile.

[foxdvd]

The frame rate can not be as bad as Two Worlds, and I ended up loving that game...count me in

[Nealocus123]

I don't understand what the frame rate issues in this game are. Granted I have only put in about an hour or two and have yet to experience any battles of epic proportion, but I still have had absolutely no lag on the Xbox 360 side.

Also, I don't understand why people are bad mouthing the graphics, they look great to me. I would even put them above average, especially for this type of game.

[TrenoV]

Frame rate issues do exist, but it isnt that bad. I play a High Elf fire dealio, its a lot of fun gathering up a crap load of bad guys and just incinerating them all. Its like AOE farming from WoW all over again.

[shieryda]

I play a High Elf fire dealio, its a lot of fun gathering up a crap load of bad guys and just incinerating them all.

Sweet.

And foxdvd, I fucking love your avatar picture.:applause:

[ZForce]

Here's my opinion on the game for those on the fence.

Sacred 2 isn't the most technically sound game ever made, but it's a lot of fun, especially if you enjoy dungeon crawlers like Diablo 2 or Champions of Norrath. If nothing else, it'll tide you over until Diablo 3 comes out :)

[Logg]

I am level 39, and I have a level 38 Seraphim Set Item if anyone has any Set Items for the Shadow Warrior and level 40.

[Ken Barth]

OVerall, it seems CAG-ers like this game..... my buddy just said he had no problems all week and is attempting to talk me into purchasing so we can rock out some co-op
.... then it crashed on him 3 times in one day. Anyone else having issues with the game crashing?

[shieryda]

OVerall, it seems CAG-ers like this game.....

CAGs like the game.:D

[cdietschrun]

Ill be getting this for my birthday from the mater on May31st and fellow CAG will also be getting it.

Feel free to add me on XBL to play this or anything else I have...

[danh920]

so far, no issues with the framerate, i got stuck on a rock 1 time. This game is freekin awesome

[Nealocus123]

I'm a level 5 Shadow Warrior and I'm just now figuring everything out. I've combined the jump skill along with one of the hard attacks and it seems to do awesome in combat. Also I'm using the warrior stamina buff. I do have a question though. There are 15 skills, so should I just learn every single rune I find that's related to my class? The whole rune system is the one part I am confused about.

[btw1217]

I'm a level 5 Shadow Warrior and I'm just now figuring everything out. I've combined the jump skill along with one of the hard attacks and it seems to do awesome in combat. Also I'm using the warrior stamina buff. I do have a question though. There are 15 skills, so should I just learn every single rune I find that's related to my class? The whole rune system is the one part I am confused about.

The more runes you "eat", the longer the recast time of your abilities, so it's best to pick a few (maybe 8 or so different Combat Arts) and improve on those while keeping the regeneration time reasonable. You want to keep your recast times and regeneration % low.

[Nealocus123]

The more runes you "eat", the longer the recast time of your abilities, so it's best to pick a few (maybe 8 or so different Combat Arts) and improve on those while keeping the regeneration time reasonable. You want to keep your recast times and regeneration % low.

That makes sense. Is there anyway that I could delete a rune I already "ate"? Luckily I took all the ones I was interested in except I have two buffs, one of which I could go without. If not no big deal I guess, but I'm guessing there has to be a way.

[btw1217]

That makes sense. Is there anyway that I could delete a rune I already "ate"? Luckily I took all the ones I was interested in except I have two buffs, one of which I could go without. If not no big deal I guess, but I'm guessing there has to be a way.

Nah, once you consume a rune, it's permanent. I wouldn't worry too much about it though. One rune won't kill you. Also, you can (and probably will) create additional characters, so don't be too worried about using your first character as a learner.

[eastx]

Sorry if this has been answered, but can 2 people in a split-screen game join an online game?

[frankcastle]

man i want this game but im waiting till one of the gs by me get a used copy in. i dont buy new games anymore, they lose their value too fast.

[Logg]

Level 41 I love this game.

[Ken Barth]

I want it! I played a ton of the first sacred on the pc.... but my pc is no longer game-capable. Need to burn through my back-log first though, then grab Sacred 2 for ps3 at a cheaper price.

[danh920]

If you want it go get it, if I waited to play thru my backlog of games 1st I wouldnt get to this for years and I'd be just starting my ps2 library :)

[ianoid]

Today the price on Gogamer just went down to $42, from $50. I didn't need that $8 anyway. Hopefully the game will arrive today or tomorrow.

I'm not that picky with collision/framerate issues. I did like Fable 2, after all. My dog walks through me. Corruption and crashing I would consider serious.

[Nealocus123]

Today the price on Gogamer just went down to $42, from $50. I didn't need that $8 anyway. Hopefully the game will arrive today or tomorrow.

I'm not that picky with collision/framerate issues. I did like Fable 2, after all. My dog walks through me. Corruption and crashing I would consider serious.

You don't need to worry about that stuff too much. I still haven't had a problem after 4hrs of playtime. Besides they have announced an update in the near future addressing said issues as well as some other fixes.

[Logg]

I have played now for like 35 maybe 40 hours and not had any problems at all.

I just beat that Mist Monster.

[Poor2More]

lvl 30, This game is my Game of the Year so far

[Logg]

EASY, but I don't know if I have even played anything else that come out this year other then SF4.

[Tigresa]

Looking to play with someone, I haven't tried it much but I have to write a review for it and I'd like to have some company while I play through it a bit. I think I'll enjoy it better that way, but I don't know anyone who has it. :3

GT = la tigresa xx

[Nealocus123]

DUDES! Has anyone ran across the quest 'Blind Guardian'? It's involving the metal band that sings the theme and it is probably the best quest I have ever played on an RPG. The quest itself is very simple, but still fun and creative. Basically you go around with the lead singer and help him find his and his bands instruments that were stolen by skeletons.

I don't know how to make spoiler tags so if someone can inform me I'll let you know how the quest ends and what the rewards are, which is the best part.

[tinman_licks]

Saw this review for Sacred 2. Was thinking about getting it since I love hack and slash but I'm still on the fence. Is it worth it?

http://www.xboxist.com/xbox-360/games/sacred-2-fallen-angel-review-010332.php

"Sacred 2 is a superior port of the PC version that was released last year due to a streamlined interface that keeps the capabilities of a console controller in mind. Technical shortcomings coupled with the repetitive combat and quests endemic to the genre hinder the game from achieving absolute greatness... For genre veterans and devotees, Sacred 2 is a competent and addictive addition for the game collection."

[eastx]

I ask again... You people who own the game, please answer.

Can 2 people in a split-screen game join an online game?

[prot0type]

Yes, two people on the same console can connect with two other Live players. 2nd player can play as a guest or load their own account.

So, is it beneficial to consume runes if I already learned the specific combat art? I'm accumulating a lot of runes and I might as well trade them in unless there's an actual difference between the amount you memorize.

[eastx]

Sweet! Thanks Prototype. Sounds like I may need to get the 360 version over the PC one then.

[Nealocus123]

So, is it beneficial to consume runes if I already learned the specific combat art? I'm accumulating a lot of runes and I might as well trade them in unless there's an actual difference between the amount you memorize.

I didn't think of this before but since the game has already been released on PC there should be a ton of guides out there for runes, blacksmithing, etc. I'll check some out and try to find an answer for you.

[prot0type]

;) (http://www.sacredwiki.org/index.php5/SacredWiki)

http://www.sacredwiki.org/index.php5/SacredWiki

found the site a little after you posted. Just did a quick skim and it looks like consuming too many runes may equal slow regeneration. I just need to verify that though when i have time to go through the site.

[Nealocus123]

Nice, I'll use that wiki for sure.

I had this quest where I had to go into the Gladiator arena and kill some bad guys. Eventually it led to me freeing the slave gladiators, but when they asked me to take them home there is no updated marker on my map. I know there are like 500 quests but if anyone figures this one out or has already completed it let me know. Thanks.

[prot0type]

Have you tried going into the quest log and activating it(the marker)? Otherwise, try activating another quest then see if you can activate the gladiator/slave quest.

[Logg]

I just beat it on Silver now Gold.

[thrustbucket]

DUDES! Has anyone ran across the quest 'Blind Guardian'? It's involving the metal band that sings the theme and it is probably the best quest I have ever played on an RPG. The quest itself is very simple, but still fun and creative. Basically you go around with the lead singer and help him find his and his bands instruments that were stolen by skeletons.

I don't know how to make spoiler tags so if someone can inform me I'll let you know how the quest ends and what the rewards are, which is the best part.

I am a big bg fan, that's the main reason I want to get this game.

[Nealocus123]

Have you tried going into the quest log and activating it(the marker)? Otherwise, try activating another quest then see if you can activate the gladiator/slave quest.

I just restarted the game and it updated fine. Now as I progress through the story I'm starting to experience little quest bugs here and there, however no where near the amount that makes it frustrating. Hell any game with over 500 quests is okay to have a few bugs every once in awhile

[foxdvd]

You guys seem to have a lot of passion for this game, and I am going to pick it up because it looks like a blast, but man this game has had some wild reviews. IGN and Gametrailers seem to hate it. As I posted in another thread you almost always have to add 1 or 2 points to reviews when it comes to any sort of RPG game (Final Fantasy 2 [or 4 outside the US] got a 7 out of 10 from one of the EGM reviewers when it came out) But a 5 out of 10 from gametrailers?

[Nealocus123]

I dunno, I'll check out Gametrailers and see what they think. I mean, I like it because I've been trying my hardest to find a Gauntlet / Diablo / Titan Quest game for console and this just totally hits the spot. With some interesting character classes and some insanely cool looking armor this game just works. Plus it's something I can see myself playing for a long...long time.

It's not without it's flaws though. I mean you can't customize your characters looks wise, there are some loading issues (ONLY when in towns, not when your in the huge world), and a few of the quests can get buggy (but eaisly fixed).

I can't wait to play online but I want to wait untill the patch comes out because as of right now you can't trade with your friends and I've heard of it leading to problems with the collection of quest items.

Edit: After watching Gametrailers review I'm glad to tell you that you have nothing to worry about. I usually trust every review they do EXCEPT this one. I could go through and point out a counter to everyone of their negatives but I'm not going to. The quests do stay true to the guard / find / kill RPG type, but which one doesn't? Audio and video glitches are YMMV as myself and other CAGS have yet to report any.

[SynGamer]

I dunno, I'll check out Gametrailers and see what they think. I mean, I like it because I've been trying my hardest to find a Gauntlet / Diablo / Titan Quest game for console and this just totally hits the spot. With some interesting character classes and some insanely cool looking armor this game just works. Plus it's something I can see myself playing for a long...long time.

It's not without it's flaws though. I mean you can't customize your characters looks wise, there are some loading issues (ONLY when in towns, not when your in the huge world), and a few of the quests can get buggy (but eaisly fixed).

I can't wait to play online but I want to wait untill the patch comes out because as of right now you can't trade with your friends and I've heard of it leading to problems with the collection of quest items.

Edit: After watching Gametrailers review I'm glad to tell you that you have nothing to worry about. I usually trust every review they do EXCEPT this one. I could go through and point out a counter to everyone of their negatives but I'm not going to. The quests do stay true to the guard / find / kill RPG type, but which one doesn't? Audio and video glitches are YMMV as myself and other CAGS have yet to report any.

Gametrailers gave it a horrible review, 5.3 i believe. Don't go by what they say. Your best bet is to go to Metacritic and check the reviews for the game there. They list all of them, from IGN, to GameSpot, to 1UP.

[danh920]

DUDES! Has anyone ran across the quest 'Blind Guardian'? It's involving the metal band that sings the theme and it is probably the best quest I have ever played on an RPG. The quest itself is very simple, but still fun and creative. Basically you go around with the lead singer and help him find his and his bands instruments that were stolen by skeletons.

I don't know how to make spoiler tags so if someone can inform me I'll let you know how the quest ends and what the rewards are, which is the best part.


just got this quest last night, cant wait to get home and play thru it

[foxdvd]

I dunno, I'll check out Gametrailers and see what they think. I mean, I like it because I've been trying my hardest to find a Gauntlet / Diablo / Titan Quest game for console and this just totally hits the spot. With some interesting character classes and some insanely cool looking armor this game just works. Plus it's something I can see myself playing for a long...long time.

It's not without it's flaws though. I mean you can't customize your characters looks wise, there are some loading issues (ONLY when in towns, not when your in the huge world), and a few of the quests can get buggy (but eaisly fixed).

I can't wait to play online but I want to wait untill the patch comes out because as of right now you can't trade with your friends and I've heard of it leading to problems with the collection of quest items.

Edit: After watching Gametrailers review I'm glad to tell you that you have nothing to worry about. I usually trust every review they do EXCEPT this one. I could go through and point out a counter to everyone of their negatives but I'm not going to. The quests do stay true to the guard / find / kill RPG type, but which one doesn't? Audio and video glitches are YMMV as myself and other CAGS have yet to report any.

Thanks for the heads up. I noticed the user score on gametrailers is over 8, which seems to fit what is being said here. I usually find myself agreeing with gametrailers which is why I paused on this.

[foxdvd]

Overlord was another game that got mixed reviews, some 9's and some 5's. IGN gave it a 66 out of 100...and I LOVED that game.

[shieryda]

Overlord was another game that got mixed reviews, some 9's and some 5's. IGN gave it a 66 out of 100...and I LOVED that game.

Indeed. Getting excited for the new one.

[Zyzomys]

This is game is great! But beware, every time you start the game, you will lose several hours of your life.

[prot0type]

Indeed, many hours will fly by if you're not careful.

Also, a friendly reminder, remember to save every now and then.

Experienced my first game crash yesterday. All of a sudden I was unable to move, no music, no response from my controller. Had to press the system's power button and restart. Luckily this only happened after I leveled up once so it wasn't an issue to get it back nor did I find anything valuable during that time.

However, had this happened the day before when I leveled up 5 or 6 times, forgetting to save, would definitely not be a happy camper.

[Logg]

I will be playing after this Basketball till about 7:30 a.m. I got a 12er of Rolling Rock so I am good to go. If ANYONE wants to play. I would be more then happy to help anyone get anything done. I have a level 48 Shadow Warrior and I have gold unlocked also. But I would help anyone or play with anyone lower. I would also start new dudes if people want to.

Unearth4164 is my Gamertag just send a message.

[foxdvd]

One good thing about the bad reviews....it should push down the cost on this game real quick. Should be sub 50 new real fast, with the used market hitting the high 30's soon.

[Nealocus123]

Just got my special mount today, it's pretty badass. Logg, how are you leveling up; quest after quest or are you grinding? Also, how long is the main quest? I just got to the Orc city and I'm level 21, is there much more? And I'm totally down to quest tomorrow after like 5PM PST. What happens with the loot in multiplayer? Is it assigned or if one of us accidently hits LB we get it all and can't trade? I don't wanna accidently ninja shit from people.

This game is great, still have yet to experience any game ruining glitches (knock on wood).

[TrenoV]

The main quest isnt exactly short. I'd say you're about a little less than halfway there. I started a Seraphim today just to try it out and im in love with her. Think i'll be playing her over my lvl 49 High Elf for awhile, fun stuff.

[tinman_licks]

Sweet! Thanks Prototype. Sounds like I may need to get the 360 version over the PC one then.

I read here http://www.n4g.com/News-331875.aspx that PS3 version is better than 360. You should go with that one.

[prot0type]

So me and a friend tried to do co-op but were unable to. Am i missing something?

Tried following the directions in the manual to start a game, but the option to invite the player or even accept a game invite is grayed out, so me or him are unable to choose it.

My guess is a level gap, he's at 18 I'm at 35. Both of our characters are alligned with shadow. So do I need to wait a bit till my friend catches up?

[Nealocus123]

I read here http://www.n4g.com/News-331875.aspx that PS3 version is better than 360. You should go with that one.

The PS3 version is better than the 360 now. However there is a patch on the way to fix all the bugs as well as online trading. I would suggest you go with the 360 version as it will have the most people online at any given time. Or with whatever you friends bought if you know anyone that bought it.
http://kotaku.com/5254610/console-sacred-2-could-use-a-little-fixing

So me and a friend tried to do co-op but were unable to. Am i missing something?

Tried following the directions in the manual to start a game, but the option to invite the player or even accept a game invite is grayed out, so me or him are unable to choose it.

My guess is a level gap, he's at 18 I'm at 35. Both of our characters are alligned with shadow. So do I need to wait a bit till my friend catches up?

You have a choice in the beginning of the game that allows you to choose your desired level gap while playing online. If I remember right it's 0, 5, or 10 levels. So even with the max option your still too far ahead of him. Creat a new character for shits and wait till' he catches up.

[eastx]

I read here http://www.n4g.com/News-331875.aspx that PS3 version is better than 360. You should go with that one.

I didn't see anything in that link or their official review that mentioned the PS3 version.

[Logg]

I have my main at 51 now, another at 15 and another one at 14, which I am trying to beat without dying, buying stuff or Exploring the map. I do a lot of quest I got that achievement for doing 40% of the side quest when I still in Act 2. The only time I would say I really "grind" is when I am in a group and we go though the desert or swamp and just clear everything really quickly.

I will be on tonight as well if anyone wants to play or has extra Set Items for trade or sale, I have over 8 Million gold.

[Nealocus123]

I have my main at 51 now, another at 15 and another one at 14, which I am trying to beat without dying, buying stuff or Exploring the map. I do a lot of quest I got that achievement for doing 40% of the side quest when I still in Act 2. The only time I would say I really "grind" is when I am in a group and we go though the desert or swamp and just clear everything really quickly.

I will be on tonight as well if anyone wants to play or has extra Set Items for trade or sale, I have over 8 Million gold.

You have DOMINATED this game within the last few days. I feel like a terrible RPGer compared to you lol. I didn't get much into Diablo when it was around so this is kinda my first taste of a real hack n' slash RPG.

[Logg]

Ya I loved Diablo 2 and have been waiting for Sacred 2 since I heard it was coming out for the 360. I did have the first Sacred on PC as well. After I read the first review that came out on IGN, I was on the fence almost was done with it, till I read all the user reviews that came out on day one. I bought it that first day and now Its all I do in my free time. I have meet a lot of people to play with also which helps but yet to really trade any items. Like I said I will be on in few hours tonight and I have a high level and a low (15) so if you wanna play just send me a friend request. I would also be down for starting a new toon, cause I would like to get each of them to 15.

[btw1217]

If anyone has any pieces from the Lucreti's Set for the Shadow Warrior, I'd be interested in trading some Armantin's or Denderan's for them.

[Logg]

I got a lightsaber

[Nealocus123]

I got a lightsaber

Seriously? A real lightsaber? Or a sword that looks like one?

I created a mage (I totally forget her class name) after getting frustrated with my Shadow Warrior and I'm having a shitload of fun with her. I also put the story on Silver (something I forgot to do on my first toon) so the difficulty is harder, but way way more fun. Lastly while doing some of the beginning quests I came upon a door the was locked but looked like it could be open. I looked it up on Google and turns out you have to go between these random houses and click on a random rock that gives you a key. The door leads to a pirate bay filled with nasty pirates and the end result is you find their huge treasure! I love these quests more and more as I play.

[Draekon]

I think in order to get a lightsaber, you need a bargaining skill of 4 to 6. I believe they're also only obtainable in the first town on Bronze. They're called something completely different, but the weapon icon and the actual skin when equipped is a lightsaber.

[Logg]

I got it at level 15 in Silver my bargaining skill is I think 24 or something at level 15. They are called light energy Swords, Its pretty sweet it had 2 slots I put it on a level 15 and she one shots everything I fight.

[danh920]

just hit level 18 last night, I'm a bit of a questaholic. This game is a blast, makes me wonder if I'll ever need the other 50 360 games on my shelf anytime soon

[Logg]

Hell I don't think I will get another game until CoD: MW2

Unless I see some crazy deal

[SynGamer]

Just bought this on eBay for $41 shipped. Used, but mint and it includes the GameStop pre-order code. Priority mail should have it here the same day my 360 returns from MS, awesome :D

[Draekon]

Just bought this on eBay for $41 shipped. Used, but mint and it includes the GameStop pre-order code. Priority mail should have it here the same day my 360 returns from MS, awesome :D

Now you can play with me. Doesn't that just make you all warm and fuzzy inside?


Also, the Gamestop codes don't work yet.

[Kalmaholic]

I really want to get this game, but I don't have the bones to spare atm for a full 60 bucks...that is just too steep for me :(
And I'm a PS3 user...if anybody seen some discounts let me know please. Thanks! :D

[SynGamer]

Now you can play with me. Doesn't that just make you all warm and fuzzy inside?

Also, the Gamestop codes don't work yet.
I'll just be happy to have my 360 back. And yes, I heard the codes don't work yet. I heard this was being fixed in the first patch.

[SynGamer]

I really want to get this game, but I don't have the bones to spare atm for a full 60 bucks...that is just too steep for me :(
And I'm a PS3 user...if anybody seen some discounts let me know please. Thanks! :D
eBay; http://catalog.ebay.com/Sacred-2-Fallen-Angel_894388002110_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ 69462926QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em271

[danh920]

up to level 19

looking for friends to play this with around my level

gt = dantheranman if anyone wants to join up

[Kalmaholic]

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-3ddg.html

What about if I order it from there...seems like the best deal I can get. I would bite on it, but I'm afraid if it's maybe international version since it's only 49.90.

[danh920]

cheapy has this posted in a gogamer thread for around $50 as well

[crazzyhippo]

I ordered this from gogamer when it was $42, it came in today but they sent me the PAL version. Seems to be working so far on my U.S. 360 (only had time to get to the title screen). Anyone know what's up with this? Is there anything wrong with using a PAL version, i.e. will the picture look weird?

[Sdawg]

I ordered this from gogamer when it was $42, it came in today but they sent me the PAL version. Seems to be working so far on my U.S. 360 (only had time to get to the title screen). Anyone know what's up with this? Is there anything wrong with using a PAL version, i.e. will the picture look weird?

From what I understand about PAL games on NTSC consoles you will only experience problems with the graphics if your playing on certain standard definition tvs. Since you got the game to start up it should work fine gameplay wise.

[Kalmaholic]

cheapy has this posted in a gogamer thread for around $50 as well

Yeah, If I recall correctly I think that one was an international version.

[crazzyhippo]

From what I understand about PAL games on NTSC consoles you will only experience problems with the graphics if your playing on certain standard definition tvs. Since you got the game to start up it should work fine gameplay wise.


Yep, works like a charm. Thanks!

[Kalmaholic]

Well I just ordered a copy for $38.00 from Ebay, but it won't come in until about a week. Now for the long wait.

Thanks a bunch SynGamer! :)

[prot0type]

DL'ed an update this morning. Not sure what it entails, but those who have a bonus code may want to give it a shot.

[Zyzomys]

There is an Xbox 360 patch available now. I just loaded it and local co-op trade is now available!

[Jasonofindy]

The current patch does the following according to the developer's posts on other boards this morning.


· Player-Trade on a single console added

· Preparation for future DLC via the new implemented in-game marketplace added. This also affects the IMP that will be available after Microsoft has done some internal changes tonight. Pls try this out later today.

· A change to the save game routine has been made to avoid a loss of the user’s save game

· A fix for a teleport problem when entering a specific dungeon (“Undead Legion” quest)

· A fix for a calculation problem in the leaderbards has been added

· Changed the names of the invite option from “everybody”/”friends only” to “public”/“private”

Another patch with some more fixes is in approval and available shortly through the wonderful Xbox Life services. We will keep you updated.

[shieryda]

The only thing preventing me from picking this up is the full 1000 point value on Goozex. Just doesn't seem like a "full-value" game for me atm.

[jkanownik]

The only thing preventing me from picking this up is the full 1000 point value on Goozex. Just doesn't seem like a "full-value" game for me atm.

I'd argue the exact opposite (i.e. that it is worth more than most other games).

I was looking at a few reviews and noticed the below from IGN. It explains why some of the review nailed the game for stuff like frame rate issues that aren't experienced in the retail version.
[Editor's Note – The original Sacred 2 Xbox 360 review we posted last week was based on a 100% complete "Gold Master" version of the game (the version sent to manufacturers for retail reproduction). That version of Sacred 2 was approved for review by publisher CDV and played by IGN editors using our Xbox 360 debug unit, something not available to the general public. After our original review was published, CDV brought to our attention that there was a possibility of manufacturing errors with Gold Master copies of the game which may have been responsible for some of the technical issues noted in the review. We obtained a second copy of the game, this one a final retail version, for comparison and have indeed found a few differences. We have amended our original review so that it is reflective of our experience with the retail game.]

[prot0type]

Carrier Imp is active.

Also available for download for 240pts.

[daschrier]

This might have been asked and answered already, but is there anything significant about the inventory items that have icons that are all sparkly white?

[Logg]

They are new the White sparkly items

I just started a TG got him to like 23 pretty fun class but hard. I have yet to die though

[Draekon]

They are new the White sparkly items

I just started a TG got him to like 23 pretty fun class but hard. I have yet to die though

Don't do like I did and get to the end of the campaign and die on the last boss because you weren't paying close enough attention to your health.


Not that I want to die anyways since it removes my Survival Bonus, but it completely sucked since I was going for that achievement.

[btw1217]

Don't do like I did and get to the end of the campaign and die on the last boss because you weren't paying close enough attention to your health.


Not that I want to die anyways since it removes my Survival Bonus, but it completely sucked since I was going for that achievement.

Does your SB drop back down to 0%?

[cdietschrun]

So if myself and friend played together, the host's game will make progress, while the visitor's won't? But what about the visitor's character, does his character retain experience and things? What about achievements? Is the visitor eligible?

[Draekon]

I have a question for people who go online (and host) with others since it's been bugging me. When you host, can you invite people to a "Continued" game or do you always have to start a new game?

I find myself having to always start a new game to be able to invite people, as do my friends. It really sucks because it erases all the progress we completed previously if we were doing something like the main campaign. It's a major peeve of mine with the game right now.



Does your SB drop back down to 0%?

Yep. I was around 60% or more at the time too, oh well.


So if myself and friend played together, the host's game will make progress, while the visitor's won't? But what about the visitor's character, does his character retain experience and things? What about achievements? Is the visitor eligible?


Visitor gets:
- Experience/Levels & Loot in inventory
- Survival Bonus/Kill Count/Death Count

Visitor doesn't get:
- Quest credit
- Map exploration (I think)
- Items left in the hero chest (Pretty sure)
- Campaign complete credit
- Achievement credit from most achievements (Basic ones obtainable like reach x level with x class and such, but not quest, campaign ones, etc)

Host gets:
- Everything


I'm not sure how true this is in local co-op however.

[Thongsy]

I play on the PS3 and when I hosted, I thought the same thing you did, that I had to start over. If you're playing on Silver, you have to go down to that first and than go back up to select continue campaign and you should be good to go.

Also I think the Hero chest works in online also.

[cdietschrun]

I was a visitor for my friend for a while and just finished and it said my guy had now 5.x% of the shadow campaign done, that I did with my friend? I'm so confused about this game.

[Logg]

I need to go to Rehab for this game.

I do want to play with some CAGs though

[Draekon]

I play on the PS3 and when I hosted, I thought the same thing you did, that I had to start over. If you're playing on Silver, you have to go down to that first and than go back up to select continue campaign and you should be good to go.

Also I think the Hero chest works in online also.

I just checked and yeah, it does say continue campaign. I never noticed it saying that before the patch though when I went there. Odd.

I know it does for the host, but when a friend joined my game (before the recent Xbox patch) he didn't have anything in his hero chest in my game. Which I thought was odd since it's suppose to be a universal thing across all of his characters.

I was a visitor for my friend for a while and just finished and it said my guy had now 5.x% of the shadow campaign done, that I did with my friend? I'm so confused about this game.

Yeah I know it says it. I just hopped onto my character that I've only done on my friends host and while the % was there, my main quest was at the very beginning.

I believe I heard something where you might be able to quit the game right after you finish the last boss, load up your game and possibly just warp to the last area and possibly finish it off. I'm not entirely sure, but I've read countless times that you don't get completed credit for campaign when you're not host.

Your teleports are saved thankfuly so I could possibly see that working.

EDIT: I'll try testing it as soon as I can. Unfortunately the people I play with don't have time to play very often so it may be a few days or longer before I can confirm.

[cdietschrun]

What a weird setup. What is the motivation? Am I supposed to do stuff on my own? Why shouldn't I get somehow advances in my character for helping a friend through his game? So strange

[Kalmaholic]

Yeah there's honestly pretty much no purpose of playing with friends online if your going to lose your progress. =\

[Logg]

The Only progress you lose is the number of quests done. You keep your EXP, your Items, the quest rewards everything. I mean thats the point of the game, why would you play this game for a story or ending, I have played over 80 hours across a few different characters and I have yet to read one line of text or story or anything. You could never beat the game just keep playing with friends and get to Niob and level 200 which is the whole point. Then obv you could rush though silver or something for a ending.

[Draekon]

The Only progress you lose is the number of quests done. You keep your EXP, your Items, the quest rewards everything. I mean thats the point of the game, why would you play this game for a story or ending, I have played over 80 hours across a few different characters and I have yet to read one line of text or story or anything. You could never beat the game just keep playing with friends and get to Niob and level 200 which is the whole point. Then obv you could rush though silver or something for a ending.

You need to beat Silver campaign to unlock Gold and go on and so forth. Without campaign progress saving in an online game, you don't get to progress to the next difficulty unless you beat it while you're the host. You have to do this for every character if you're playing campaign (which actually saves progress [like quests] unlike Free World). Free World on the other hand, I believe you can play higher levels so long as you've unlocked it on at least one character.

It's a real pain in the ass for people who strictly got this for online co-op and want achievements. It's also a pain for unlocking higher difficulties via online, unless I'm mistaken (and believe me, I hope I am). I don't personally care about side quest progress saving, I just wish the campaign progress would for the benefits you get from going through it.

[SynGamer]

There's still another patch in QA right now...not entirely sure what it fixes aside from save corruption.

[AdvOfJet]

Does anyone else have fairly bad V-sync issues with this game ? I don't see any slow down or anything like some people have mentioned, but the V-sync issue is pretty bad unless I zoom all the way in.

Aside from that, definitely a great game and plan on spending quite a bit of time on it. Never really wanted to play online so not too worried about that aspect.

[Draekon]

I definitely notice a lot of tearing, yes. Not serious enough for it to bother me though.

EDIT: About the lag, since I just started a Blazing Tempest High Elf, I do get lag fairly frequently when a lot of enemies die at once. I usually mob quite a few up before I start casting and then my screen is just filled with damage popping up all over above the enemies.

[jkanownik]

The Twitty Tister quest is awesome!!

[Pck21]

Anyone know when the patch is coming out?

[Draekon]

The second patch came out yesterday. No patch notes yet, but we should have them by Monday at the latest.

[Pck21]

The second patch came out yesterday. No patch notes yet, but we should have them by Monday at the latest.

Oh awesome! If someone can post the notes as well as impressions of the new patch (what it fixed, did it fix the issues, etc, etc) then I will finally pick up this game!

[Redeema]

I just got this and find it so big that it's almost overwhelming. I finished one quest and took on like two or three and then called it a night because I couldn't really figure out how to get to wherever these quests were anyway. I'm not sure if I like this or not, I mean I want to, but the camera is weird, combat is a little sluggish, and it's not exactly ideal for navigation on a controller. This is for a review, so I've got to put in my time, so if anyone is interested in getting a game sometime this weekend, I generally play at night, I live on the West Coast and I'm a High Elf.

[jkanownik]

I just got this and find it so big that it's almost overwhelming. I finished one quest and took on like two or three and then called it a night because I couldn't really figure out how to get to wherever these quests were anyway. I'm not sure if I like this or not, I mean I want to, but the camera is weird, combat is a little sluggish, and it's not exactly ideal for navigation on a controller. This is for a review, so I've got to put in my time, so if anyone is interested in getting a game sometime this weekend, I generally play at night, I live on the West Coast and I'm a High Elf.

It takes some time to get used to it. Just don't stress out about it. There's a ton of stuff you don't have to worry about if you don't want to. You'll pick up on stuff as you go along. If you think the camera is weird just zoom out all the way and leave it there. It forces that perspective when you play same console coop and it works well that way.

[Logg]

Make sure you set the camera to Static at least that worked the best for me.

[Logg]

Bump for being the best game out

[Nealocus123]

I've been playing this game quite a bit lately. I still haven't beat the main quest yet because I've been working on my mage for awhile, but I'm going to switch back to my warrior and finish it. How is the ending? I didn't pay attention to the story one bit until I started befriending the Orcs. Now I'm very interested to see what happens.

[Logg]

I only have beat it 3 times I had no idea about the ending

[George McBain]

I started as a temple guardian (mighty morphing robot anubis GO!), but I am stepping back from the game to finish Fallout 3 first. Not because it is bad, but quite the opposite. I know i will sink so much time in the game, but I REALLY want to finish Fallout 3 proper.

[Nealocus123]

I only have beat it 3 times I had no idea about the ending

Haha, I figured as much. I guess I'll have to wait for Diablo 3 for an awesome story.

EDIT

Just had my first game crash. >sigh<

Hopefully it will be my last. Luckily I wasn't too far into my playing session, had one easy quest done but I found a ridiculously nice staff that I'm going to be severely upset about if I lost it.

Logging in now....

Fuck yes, still have it. Must have got it before and just not remembered.

[jkanownik]

I've been playing this game quite a bit lately. I still haven't beat the main quest yet because I've been working on my mage for awhile, but I'm going to switch back to my warrior and finish it. How is the ending? I didn't pay attention to the story one bit until I started befriending the Orcs. Now I'm very interested to see what happens.

The blue stuff is bad
so you make it go away
except it's still there

[Logg]

The only time I had crashing was using a lightsaber, once I get rid of that it was fine.

[TrenoV]

Ending on both sides is pretty mehtastic. Then again the story as a whole isn't very good but who cares, the game is fun!

[Gourd]

Want. *sigh* But The Wife demands Sims 3, so no Sacred 2 for me.

[Survivalism]

I'm still on the fence with this one. I definitely want to check it out but I can't quite commit to paying full-price-ish for it. I mostly see it compared to WOW and Diablo; does it play like WOW with an actual story? I never got into Diablo because I can't stand click-to-move setups, which is obviously not a factor in a console game. Basically, CAG, make me buy it.

[Logg]

Nothing like WOW

No Story

Just kill and upgrade its a much fun as you want it to be.

[Survivalism]

Nothing like WOW

No Story

Just kill and upgrade its a much fun as you want it to be.

I have to admit, that sounds an awful lot like WOW. Which, incidentally, is not a bad thing.

[Draekon]

I have to admit, that sounds an awful lot like WOW. Which, incidentally, is not a bad thing.

WoW has a ton of stories to it if you actually follow the history of Warcraft (mainly from the books). There's just no singular main story in the game like you're use to.

[Logg]

I will get a 1000/1000 on this game maybe just maybe I will end up with like 1750/1750 oh man that would be the best.

Also my goal is to get a dude to 200 without dying.

[Draekon]

Good luck with that, it'll take over 200 hours to reach that level I think.

I also got jacked on that 'don't die during campaign' achievement. I did free mode and died on my new character for some stupid reason or another. Shortly after I started a brand new campaign with the character (I hadn't done it yet) and when I went through without dieing, I didn't get the achievement. Pissed me off. ;o

[Nealocus123]

I will get a 1000/1000 on this game maybe just maybe I will end up with like 1750/1750 oh man that would be the best.

Also my goal is to get a dude to 200 without dying.

It's out of 1750? Is there already DLC?

[Logg]

No I am just saying I hope there will be one day.

[Nealocus123]

No I am just saying I hope there will be one day.

Oh alrighty, I see.

I played a huge 3-4 hour session today and did a lot! I finished the Dragon quest(s) and got transported to the new area in the southeast. While searching for the dragon(s) I kept getting lost, it was pretty frustrating but I did gain a lot of XP and items. Got the millionaire achievement too. Near the end when you are asked to kill that Belrock LOTR monster the quest chain gets really good.

One of the Dragons dropped a 150k staff too!

[Zyzomys]

I kept getting lost, it was pretty frustrating but I did gain a lot of XP and items.I am doing that part right now with my Saraphim. I too find running around these tunnels a bit confusing and frustrating. I don't know what I would do if the small map did not have that gold arrow on it for guidance.

[ianoid]

If you like loot grabbing hack n' slash, you'll love Sacred 2. The story is goofy, but not more nonsensical than most video games.

I'm taking the approach of avoiding a lot of side quests to start with. It's distracting to have 10 going on at once. Most are very simple. If I could do quite a few at once, I could be more economical. Some of the map and quest designs result in repetitive runs, which is probably the most frustrating part of the game. The second most frustrating is not being able to save anywhere you want, although you can save anytime. You just don't reappear where you saved, you reappear at the last activated checkpoint pillar.

I still can't figure out the upgrade systems, and my Seraphim is at lvl15. Points to upgrade her appear with lvl ups, and I use those to do the spells. I am guessing that using multiple runes for the same spell doesn't help at all?

And the weapons upgrade system with the slots is confusing as well. I go to a blacksmith and he offers to upgrade a couple of crummy weapons, not my better stuff. Can I do upgrades myself and attach stuff? What objects can I attach?

This is the main reason why I like D&D universe stuff- the familiar names and approach can make it easier to navigate without having to learn a whole new system.

[Nealocus123]

If you like loot grabbing hack n' slash, you'll love Sacred 2. The story is goofy, but not more nonsensical than most video games.

I'm taking the approach of avoiding a lot of side quests to start with. It's distracting to have 10 going on at once. Most are very simple. If I could do quite a few at once, I could be more economical. Some of the map and quest designs result in repetitive runs, which is probably the most frustrating part of the game. The second most frustrating is not being able to save anywhere you want, although you can save anytime. You just don't reappear where you saved, you reappear at the last activated checkpoint pillar.

I still can't figure out the upgrade systems, and my Seraphim is at lvl15. Points to upgrade her appear with lvl ups, and I use those to do the spells. I am guessing that using multiple runes for the same spell doesn't help at all?

And the weapons upgrade system with the slots is confusing as well. I go to a blacksmith and he offers to upgrade a couple of crummy weapons, not my better stuff. Can I do upgrades myself and attach stuff? What objects can I attach?

This is the main reason why I like D&D universe stuff- the familiar names and approach can make it easier to navigate without having to learn a whole new system.

The blacksmith can't upgrade the armor your [B]wearing[B]. So if you have upgrade slots on your helmet or something, you need to take it off before you go talk to him, then he will offer to upgrade it. As for the runes, even I'm not too sure and I'm level 30.

Here's a guide for runes that I've been looking at lately, it explains a lot. http://forum.sacredeng.ascaron-net.com/showthread.php?t=43426

[Logg]

I have like only 9 achievements left, this will probably be the only game I keep playing after I get all 1000.

Multiple runes level up the spell and can add more effects to it also, but it raises the regeneration time on it so there is a fine line to walk.

Also ianoid, last night I got 2 of the exact same Set Item Seraphim helm its level 30, I can just give it to you if you need it.

[notoriousxbox]

Just got this game the other day and really enjoying it so far. The game was never on my radar at all. I can def see this game being a time drain.

[TheFreshPrince]

So, I just got Sacred 2 to play local co-op.

And I am totally lost. I've never really played one of these loot/exploration style games before, but I am clueless as to what I'm supposed to be doing, and where the 'fun' of the game is.

The camera angle is abysmal, I can't even see my characters armor/weapons/etc.
There really isn't anything pushing you forward, but is that the point? To just wander around taking boring sidequests to get more loot drops?

Is that all there really is to this game?

Would I like Too Human if I hate this? At least from the demo, Too Human seemed to have more mainstream combat, and more interesting environments/loot.

Thanks!

[daschrier]

The only point of this game is to explore, collect loot, and level up, I got bored with it very quickly, yet played Diablo 2 for years. Diablo and Diablo 2 managed to do something that most action RPG since have failed to do.

[gindias]

The problem your having is common, there are so many side quests that you get taken off of the main quest and forget about it. The main quest is the gold ring/arrow on the world/mini map. The game is open world and really doesnt stress the main story very well, I never felt the need to get back to the main quest and would run around killing stuff for hours. Most games force you to eventually get back to the main quest but this one for some reason lets you go at your own pace. Its a decent game though, once you get to the higher difficulties and have to use your skills to kill bosses.

[whiptcracker]

Would I like Too Human if I hate this? At least from the demo, Too Human seemed to have more mainstream combat, and more interesting environments/loot.

Nope. The best part of Too Human was in the demo. The exploding, poison, and polarize effect enemies kill Too Human later, unless you like watching a Valkyrie bring your character to life a lot.

Sacred is a hack and slash, really the point of these games is to wander around and hack your way through enemies, collect loot, and level up to gain more ways to hack through things and collect loot.

[ViolentLee]

The game-crash bugs ticked me off at first (respawning where you can't move), but they seem to be a thing of the past.
What really pisses me off is playing with my wife, and only she can pick up loot off enemies I kill and vice versa -- at least most of the time. It wouldn't be so bad if we could actually DROP or GIVE items. But no, you're stuck either selling them or scrapping them.

I thought when I saw that communal chest that I could put items in that she could take out, but no such luck. How the hell can there be a game like this in 2009 that doesn't have such simple functionality that was in a game from 1993? PLEASE someone tell me I'm just missing something, and there's a way to exchange items.

I scoped back about 4 pages before asking this, by the way. Sorry if it's on an earlier page.

[btw1217]

The game-crash bugs ticked me off at first (respawning where you can't move), but they seem to be a thing of the past.
What really pisses me off is playing with my wife, and only she can pick up loot off enemies I kill and vice versa -- at least most of the time. It wouldn't be so bad if we could actually DROP or GIVE items. But no, you're stuck either selling them or scrapping them.

I thought when I saw that communal chest that I could put items in that she could take out, but no such luck. How the hell can there be a game like this in 2009 that doesn't have such simple functionality that was in a game from 1993? PLEASE someone tell me I'm just missing something, and there's a way to exchange items.

I scoped back about 4 pages before asking this, by the way. Sorry if it's on an earlier page.

I believe there's an issue about not being able to trade between characters on the same console, and I think that's being addressed in the next patch. Not sure when that will be though.

[jkanownik]

The game-crash bugs ticked me off at first (respawning where you can't move), but they seem to be a thing of the past.
What really pisses me off is playing with my wife, and only she can pick up loot off enemies I kill and vice versa -- at least most of the time. It wouldn't be so bad if we could actually DROP or GIVE items. But no, you're stuck either selling them or scrapping them.

I thought when I saw that communal chest that I could put items in that she could take out, but no such luck. How the hell can there be a game like this in 2009 that doesn't have such simple functionality that was in a game from 1993? PLEASE someone tell me I'm just missing something, and there's a way to exchange items.

I scoped back about 4 pages before asking this, by the way. Sorry if it's on an earlier page.


Did you allow the game to update? After the first update my wife and I have been able to trade back and forth all we want. Just last night my wife and I traded at least ten items back and forth. We've played all through the light campaign first on bronze and are now about 80 hours into our dark characters (we're now 70% through on Gold at level 65).

As far as local coop goes the only major glitch we're still stuck with is that sometimes the second player can't summon their mount. When that happens we have to back out to the dashboard and restart the game. There's also the glitch where one or the other player gets stuck, but that just requires a save and restart which only takes a few seconds.

[ViolentLee]

Thanks for your take, guys. I'm playing on PS3, and I let the game update when I first put it in. I haven't been prompted to do so since.

[jkanownik]

Thanks for your take, guys. I'm playing on PS3, and I let the game update when I first put it in. I haven't been prompted to do so since.

New PS3 update today fixes the coop trading. I didn't realize they hadn't fixed that on the PS3 yet.

I'm now up to level 76 and ~70% of the way through platinum. Still loving it. Hitting level 75 and getting the masteries was awesome.

Has Wombat commented on this game in the podcast? This game does dress up better than any console game ever. I'd think that he'd be all over that.

[ViolentLee]

I guess I need to update things before the wife gets home so we can play tonight. Thanks, jkanownik.

[shieryda]

Just got this game from Goozex, and installed the hdd. Looking forward to playing on Thursday.

Logg, are you still up for some co-op?

[Logg]

I might be have not played in a while

Sadly been Playing WoW.

I blame Sacred 2.

[shieryda]

Cool. Anyone else want to play, let me know or send me a request (Shyreese).

[notoriousxbox]

Cool. Anyone else want to play, let me know or send me a request (Shyreese).

Will do that later on tonight been looking to finally try that out.

[shieryda]

Will do that later on tonight been looking to finally try that out.

So you haven't started yet, either? Sweet. Still trying to decide which character class to choose. I'm a bit intimidated by all the stuff in this game, but I said that about Oblivion once, and freaking love that game.

[shieryda]

Started a dark campaign with 2 buddies last night. It took a few minutes, but we eventually figured it out. I'm hooked.:hot:

[shieryda]

How can I fix the fucking lag in this game when I play with another person on Live? It's so bad!

We both have pretty decent download speeds (2.5 Mb), so I don't think it's either connection.