Comic Book Discussion Thread (Marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse, Top Cow, IDW, Indy, etc)

[LXL_Guy]

Comics this past week that I need to pick up.

ADVENTURE COMICS #4
- Only picked it up for the Corps ring.
FLASH REBIRTH #5
- Had to go back and reread issue 4 to recall what was going on again but, I did enjoy this issue.
OUTSIDERS #24
- Like Adventure Comics, only picked up for the ring.
INVINCIBLE #68
- Liked the last few pages. What a twist.
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #612
- It's going in an interesting direction.
INCREDIBLE HULK #604
- What you would expect when Pak is writing.
SPIDER-WOMAN #3
- Completely forgot to pick up. Will have to get it next week.

[integralsmatic]

picked up Haunt..........Its by far one of my favorites and pretty much has brought me back in to reading books again. Ryan Ottley's artwork in it is friggin AMAZING!!!!!!!

[poison_SHADOW]

Anybody know how many hardcover collections there are so far of post-BND Amazing Spider-Man? The only one I have is New Ways to Die.

[lokizz]

how long has marvel been doing mature comics?

[Rodimus]

Anybody know how many hardcover collections there are so far of post-BND Amazing Spider-Man? The only one I have is New Ways to Die.

Not sure but much of BND is passable. New Ways to Die was good and IMO is when Spidey started getting good again.

how long has marvel been doing mature comics?

Probably since they dropped the CCA back in 2001 and started up the MAX imprint.

[craven_fiend]

I've got a question pertaining to The Runaways. What is the order of the Hardcovers? I've got the 1st one but am unsure of the rest.

[neocisco]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Runaways_%28comics%29

[craven_fiend]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Runaways_%28comics%29

Thank you kind sir. Amazon was confusing me as I looked at dates and what each contained.

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't blame you. As someone who just started reading the series, buying the hard covers was annoying as hell since they're not numbered, and the series starts over twice.

[craven_fiend]

I don't blame you. As someone who just started reading the series, buying the hard covers was annoying as hell since they're not numbered, and the series starts over twice.

Yeah, I was browsing a few places and was really confused by what order hardcovers were in. The wiki was a bit helpful, but I'd like to know how the books go together. Got the original hardcover on Ebay a few years ago and was hooked. And now I'm trying to piece together the rest of the series, 1 or 2 books at a time.

Then to further add to my confusion, there appear to be some coming out next year, that look like older ones. I'm so confused and haven't found anything good or reliable that says the specific order. Can you point me in the right direction Rei?

[Rei no Otaku]

Wiki has the right order. That's the one I follow.

[Rodimus]

Picked up Preacher vol. 3 & 4 at a Black Friday half off sale.

[Rei no Otaku]

Detective Comics gets better and more beautiful every month. If you like comics and you're not reading this then you're insane.

[craven_fiend]

Thanks for the help with The Runaways. I didn't notice the hardcover list at the bottom until I did another look over. Looks like Vol 3 is a pain to find cheap.

[Rodimus]

I know I've mentioned this before but the Ares mini series is a great read. Just finished issue #2 and I'm sad to see it end with the next one. Some of the best parts is when he's talking to his band of hand picked soliders about his past war experience. It's intresting to see the interaction between mortal soliders and the god of war himself. My favorite thing about Ares (especailly in this series) is that he gets his point across with such few words.

[Rei no Otaku]

I've continually skipped the Ares mini. I just don't like the character at all. Granted I don't hate him like I do Sentry and Deadpool, but I still could quite easily do without him. I might pick up the first issue though just to see what it's like.

[Rodimus]

I was never a big fan of him either. I always saw him as a poor-man's Herc or Thor (which is joked about often). But he's had a few key moments over the years that made me a fan. His recent appearance in Secret Warriors is good too.

[lokizz]

I know I've mentioned this before but the Ares mini series is a great read. Just finished issue #2 and I'm sad to see it end with the next one. Some of the best parts is when he's talking to his band of hand picked soliders about his past war experience. It's intresting to see the interaction between mortal soliders and the god of war himself. My favorite thing about Ares (especailly in this series) is that he gets his point across with such few words.


areas is pretty damn cool. i never liked the mythological characters in either comics world but theyve done alot of cool things with ares, thor and hercules. marvel has gone above and beyond to mix things up in their comic world where before it seemd like one group fought these guys and stayed here and another roup fought these guys and stayed here.

its cool to see doom fighting gods/goddesses and spiderman eating hotdogs with ms marvel. some of the heros/vilans kids are interesting too sucks that sabretooth didnt have a kid ( one who could figght anyway).

[Rei no Otaku]

So what does everyone think about the Earth-One announcement from DC?

[Rodimus]

Was that Ms. Marvel/Spider-Man date issue any good? It sounded intresting.

[lokizz]

Was that Ms. Marvel/Spider-Man date issue any good? It sounded intresting.

it was imo. just because it showed an interesting thing about peter and his obsession over having very little money. i didnt expect much from it but towards then end i wonder if they wont end up hooking up. the guy definetly deserves it after all the shit luck hes had with women. it was a very odd and funny comic. its also cool to see that even heros who fight with and know each other very well still have uncomfortable first dates lol.

[Rodimus]

Thanks, I may have to pick it up.

[bardockkun]

So what does everyone think about the Earth-One announcement from DC?
Don't we already have an Earth One of sorts called the All Star line?

Plus don't we already have a sweet ass re-telling of Superman called Superman: Secret Origins? Honestly, what's the point of re-doing their origins for a new generation? EVERYONE knows the Batman and Superman origin. I Kinda understand that this is an excuse for new people to pick it up and see Bruce Wayne as Batman as opposed to Dick Grayson, but c'mon. In the end it'll always come back to the original Universe so this just feels pointless.

Love the new sig by the way.

Detective Comics gets better and more beautiful every month. If you like comics and you're not reading this then you're insane.
Jesus, the last few pages where you see Batman painted and Kate and everything else done in the usual colors was friggin gorgeous. Plus I love the origin so far because it gives her so much more personality or motive in those two issues so far then alot of other characters. Love love LOVE this series.

[diddy310]

Did anyone check out the Dark Avengers Annual

Noh-Varr finally gets to be Captain Marvel, costume is kinda ugly though. I expect whoever draws it next will clean it up a bit and hopefully get either the star or Kree saturn-y logo in it
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3853/1049102-scannedimage_large.jpg

[lokizz]

Did anyone check out the Dark Avengers Annual

Noh-Varr finally gets to be Captain Marvel, costume is kinda ugly though. I expect whoever draws it next will clean it up a bit and hopefully get either the star or Kree saturn-y logo in it
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3853/1049102-scannedimage_large.jpg

i like that guy and his fight with sentry was pretty cool.

[LXL_Guy]

Finally a slow week for me consisting of the following titles:

Batgirl #5
Red Robin #7
Titans #20
Walking Dead #68
Amazing Spider-Man #614
Incredible Hulk #605
Invincible Iron Man #21

So I'm sure you guys have heard Bruce's journey starts up come April. We all know he was going to be coming back but this just seems a bit too soon.

[lokizz]

yeah batman should stay dead longer its been cool seeing how everyone is dealing with his death especially those he worked closely with. though that bit with him in darkest night was sick to see i always wondered why that guy didnt bring him back like he did the others. if he does return though will be become batman again or will he stay on the sidelines and maybe focus on being bruce more?

[Rei no Otaku]

Did anyone check out the Dark Avengers Annual

Noh-Varr finally gets to be Captain Marvel, costume is kinda ugly though. I expect whoever draws it next will clean it up a bit and hopefully get either the star or Kree saturn-y logo in it
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3853/1049102-scannedimage_large.jpg
That costume was hideous.
So I'm sure you guys have heard Bruce's journey starts up come April. We all know he was going to be coming back but this just seems a bit too soon.
I really hope when he comes back he doesn't go right back to being Batman. I'm enjoying Dick as Batman, and it's way too soon for him to give up the cowl.

[manthing]

Did anyone check out the Dark Avengers Annual


The costume is awful.

About the end:

Was that THE Steve Rodgers? When did he come he come back?

[diddy310]

About the end of that and New Avengers Annual

He appears in that as well, and I think it's supposed to be his first post-Reborn appearance. I think Reborn is a few months behind schedule. There's also the possibility that Marvel is doing this intentionally and it's the version of Cap from the end of Reborn Issue 3.

[SithFran]

Finally finished rereading my Preacher TPB collection. Anyone interested in it before I list them somewhere? All 9 books.

[manthing]

About the end of that and New Avengers Annual

He appears in that as well, and I think it's supposed to be his first post-Reborn appearance. I think Reborn is a few months behind schedule. There's also the possibility that Marvel is doing this intentionally and it's the version of Cap from the end of Reborn Issue 3.

Re: above spoilersSteve Rodgers appears AGAIN(?) in Iron Man 21.


I'm so confused

[Rodimus]

Finally finished rereading my Preacher TPB collection. Anyone interested in it before I list them somewhere? All 9 books.

I would, but I already own volumes 1-4. Would you be willing to break it up?

[SithFran]

I could do that. How's $50 shipped?

I'm also finishing up Luna Brother's Girls 1-4. On the last book now.

I also have some other trades for sale:

Ultimate X-Men, Vol. 3 Hardcover - Sealed
Daredevil: Ninja
Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra Volume 1
Julius
Ministry Of Space
Planetary Vol. 2: The Fourth Man
New Avengers Vol. 1: Breakout Hardcover Sealed
Civil War: Heroes For Hire
JLA Book 1
JLA Book 7
JLA Act of God #1
JLA Act of God #2
Transmetropolitan Vol. 4: The New Scum
Transmetropolitan Vol. 5: Lonely City
Transmetropolitan Vol. 7: Spider's Thrash
Transmetropolitan Vol. 8: Dirge
Transmetropolitan Vol. 9: The Cure
Also, have the some loose issues here and there and single issues which would make up Vol. 10
Batman: Bruce Wayne - Fugitive, Vol. 1
Batman: Bruce Wayne - Fugitive, Vol. 2
Batman: Bruce Wayne - Fugitive, Vol. 3
Death: The High Cost of Living

There's others I'll have to list later.

[bigdaddybruce44]

So, now that Batman has gotten a proper video game treatment this generation, any chance we will finally get a good Superman game?

[lokizz]

So, now that Batman has gotten a proper video game treatment this generation, any chance we will finally get a good Superman game?

what no love for superman 64? id be up for them making a justice league game or maybe a 3d enviroments justice league fighting game. an open sandbox fighting game if you will.

[bardockkun]

They can make a good Superman game once they figure out a way to actually hurt the fucker without insulting everyone's intelligence.

[lokizz]

They can make a good Superman game once they figure out a way to actually hurt the fucker without insulting everyone's intelligence.


that could be done if you do the whole turn the earth sun into a red sun so that over time he loses his powers and he needs to fix it within a set amount of days before hes completly powerless and easily killed.

[bigdaddybruce44]

You don't even need to have Superman be hurt, though the idea of using a red sun isn't terrible. You can just set the game up where Superman cannot fail certain objectives, or else the game is over. And obviously, there can also be boss battles where Superman getting hurt does not seem silly or forced.

[lokizz]

You don't even need to have Superman be hurt, though the idea of using a red sun isn't terrible. You can just set the game up where Superman cannot fail certain objectives, or else the game is over. And obviously, there can also be boss battles where Superman getting hurt does not seem silly or forced.

the red sun idea came from one of those old superman cartoons they used to show in the 90s. if they did it like the siderman/ hulk games ( random events you can choose to do or not do but have those events affect what happens in the game world.

you also need completly destructable environments that way boss battles and fights have consequences. id also like to see the use his super speed ability ( you never see him run fast in a game). toss in the random team ups with diff heroes against villians and fun hidden things you can find using his powers.

definetly need to be able to combine and manipulate his powers to make diff things happen or solve problems.

[Rei no Otaku]

They can make a good Superman game once they figure out a way to actually hurt the fucker without insulting everyone's intelligence.
Just use Superman's old weakness of magic.

[lokizz]

btw when does the next issue of kick-ass come out?

[bardockkun]

that could be done if you do the whole turn the earth sun into a red sun so that over time he loses his powers and he needs to fix it within a set amount of days before hes completly powerless and easily killed.
I Guess that can work. It's only way you can shoot a missile at Superman and actually have him stagger a bit. I'm still waiting for an actual Superman game that remembers he also has super speed as well though.
You don't even need to have Superman be hurt, though the idea of using a red sun isn't terrible. You can just set the game up where Superman cannot fail certain objectives, or else the game is over. And obviously, there can also be boss battles where Superman getting hurt does not seem silly or forced.
Didn't the Superman Returns video game do that? Plus wouldn't the game really be one giant escort or protect the "..." missions? AKA The most horrible game ever.
Just use Superman's old weakness of magic.
Superman can't spend a whole game fighting magicians, demons and people from a heavy metal album cover. This isn't a Spawn video game.
btw when does the next issue of kick-ass come out?
Hopefully before the movie is out, but Mark Millar is one slow ass jive turkey. Plus now he wants to direct movies too...

[bigdaddybruce44]

As the other poster said, they can have fully destructible environments and have there be consequences to what Superman does. After all, that is a theme that has been touched upon in different mediums. You have all this power at your hands, but you were to fully unleash them at the wrong time, it would be a disaster. And just because Superman Returns blew doesn't mean a game like that would. It blew because it was a half-assed, rushed, movie tie-in cash cow.

[bardockkun]

I Keep thinking Superman III for some reason. Like if you just act as an asshole Superman your costume turns into a darker tint, grow a stubble and you drink.

[bigdaddybruce44]

HAHA! That would be awesome. Imagine playing as drunk Superman? But no Richard Pryor.

[lokizz]

more than that itd be cool to fight zod and those other 2 aliens who were with him. imagine having to deal with 3 other kryptonians all the while trying to keep your fight from completly wrecking the city and should you do damamge to the city having to choose to keep the civilians caught up in it safe or letting them die. itd also be cool to be able to do things as clark kent as well keeping a balance between both lives.

[Rei no Otaku]

Superman can't spend a whole game fighting magicians, demons and people from a heavy metal album cover. This isn't a Spawn video game.
That doesn't have to be the case. Someone could cast a spell that weakens him.

[Rodimus]

Hopefully before the movie is out, but Mark Millar is one slow ass jive turkey. Plus now he wants to direct movies too...

He may be slow, overworked or whatever, but the guy sure knows how to write an enjoyabe story when he wants to.

[bardockkun]

That doesn't have to be the case. Someone could cast a spell that weakens him.
From a personal stand point Superman has always been more sci-fi themed if anything as opposed to going to that realm. Yes, I know he has Mr.Mxyzptlk or however you spell him, but more all his villains and stories all have the sci-fi theme going with it.

I Think red sun or red kryptonite and if that can be worked in a story it'll give logical excuse for him getting his ass beat by common goons.
He may be slow, overworked or whatever, but the guy sure knows how to write an enjoyabe story when he wants to.
Slow I think is the answer.

Robert Kirkman is writing Invincible, Astounding Wolfman, Haunt, Walking Dead, Pilot Season (4 different title comics), Image United AND helping run Image. Yet, all his come on a good monthly basis without a dip in quality.

[neocisco]

That's because Robert Kirkman has a strong work ethic and a sense of responsibility, both of which are severely lacking with many of the so-called superstars now.

[bardockkun]

And knows how to write a mean story.

[ChernobylCow]

OK guys, obligatory "I've been playing Batman:AA and now I'm looking for related paraphernalia to read."

I've finished reading:
The Long Halloween
Batman Arkham Asylum: Living Hell (totally awesome).
Also I've just gotten the first 3 seasons of Batman:TAS.

I really prefer the more psychological and detective aspects of Batman. Can anyone recommend any good collections? I am unsure if Batman's "Detective Comics" ever get collected. I really don't care much for superhero crossovers (unless it's a clever cameo, i.e. Green Lanter's appearance in "Made of Wood" DC#784) superteams, or sidekicks.

[Rei no Otaku]

Do the stories have to be about Batman or can they just be part of the Batman family? If so then I highly suggest the current run on Detective Comics with Batwoman. It's fantastic.

Also there's The Killing Joke which is one of the more famous Batman GNs.

[JolietJake]

I've been wanting to read Gotham by Gas Light, but every copy i find online is expensive.

[ChernobylCow]

I've been wanting to read Gotham by Gas Light, but every copy i find online is expensive.
It's fairly good. If I remember correctly the first half is good about Jack the Rippah. Second half less so.

[JolietJake]

It must be pretty good, i've seen copies selling for $60.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Also there's The Killing Joke which is one of the more famous Batman GNs.

And if you're interested in getting "The Killing Joke" (which I think is quite good), pick up DC Universe: The Stories of Alan Moore. Very good deal, in my opinion, considering it also includes "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" and "For the Man Who Has Everything."

[neocisco]

Gotham Central Vols. 1-5. Police-based stories with only cursory appearances by Batman but still an excellent run of issues that was really underrated.

[bobo2k4]

Anyone know when the Old Man Logan non-hardcover comes out? I've been waiting for months and there is no release date. I thought it would be out by christmas time but nada.

[neocisco]

When the HC sales take a big enough dip. Marvel has been TPB's as afterthoughts for a couple of years now.

[blue_volvo]

Anyone know when the Old Man Logan non-hardcover comes out? I've been waiting for months and there is no release date. I thought it would be out by christmas time but nada.

Judging from some recent x-men related TPBs, could be about 3-4 months after the release of the HC (looking at woverine: adamantium men, x-factor,...). However that is to go from Premiere HC to TPB. Old Man Logan is oversized HC, so maybe the timetable for that would go like the Cable/X-Force: Messiah War HC, which came out Aug 26 and will be out Jan 20 in TPB.

So my guess is March/April. But they only dropped the price on the Messiah War TPB by $5, so it might be worth it to buy the HC now, it is a nicer package with the oversized art (and obviously hardcover).

[bardockkun]

I Kinda want to pick up Superman: World of New Krypton again to know what's going on with the "next crossover," but man that is one boring ass title.

Plus more I hear about "The Return of Bruce Wayne" the more I think it sounds like a bad Quantum Leap episode. I'll still pick it up, but me assuming what I know about Morrison...It won't make a lick of damn sense. Calling it now.

[lokizz]

how does that even work though if bruce is alive and coming back how was nekron able to reanimate his corpse?

[bobo2k4]

Thanks for the responses but I caved and ordered the HC on amazon. I've been waiting forever to read the whole thing and have been dodging spoilers since it came out.

Any of you guys recommend The Boys? I've been wanting to read this too.

[bardockkun]

how does that even work though if bruce is alive and coming back how was nekron able to reanimate his corpse?
I Think they'll go into detail about that in Batman and Robin's Blackest Night tie in issue according to all the previews. Though like I said, I know it's going to make a lick of sense because it's Bruce Wayne versus time itself is what Morrison is labeling it as. So this includes viking Bruce and pirate Bruce shown so far.

[Rei no Otaku]

how does that even work though if bruce is alive and coming back how was nekron able to reanimate his corpse?
My theory is that Bruce is technically dead since he's in the past. If that makes any sense. Hence why his corpse was still able to make a small appearance in Blackest Night.

[Rodimus]

Walking Dead is very overrated.

I got a few issues of Walking Dead and realized I have to start from the begining so I ended up droping it. I dropped 10 comics from my pull list. Need to start saving money.

[neocisco]

I read the first volume of Y last week and I enjoyed it. I'll be reading Vol. 2.

I just finished the fifth (and final) volume of Gotham Central. That is some fine readin'. If you've ever enjoyed The Wire you will absolutely love Gotham Central. Give it a try.

[ChernobylCow]

Characters do stupid, non-sense things that I can't relate to...

Sure, but it's not a bad book. It's a great one really. I followed it for about 50 issues or so when they were living in the prison and I have to say it was a really strong run. I guess you could say the series is getting a little tired...or maybe just I am. I'd say that the quality of recent books hasn't diminished it's just the whole series is lacking that underlying 'BIG QUESTION' or 'HIDDEN DEPTH' that something like Fables had for a long time with the Adversary and all of the character's storied histories.

Honestly, I think many people are plain stupid and have really poor sensory awareness and I don't mind so much when they get eaten. But there are a lot of "going to take a leak" moments that lead to zombie ambush. Probably the biggest moment that was a Whazzzahhh??? moment was when:one chick whose sister had died commits suicide by randomly wandering into the path of a chained up zombie.

Anyhows, Y is great. Dead is great. Fables. Ex Machina...

[Rodimus]

My brother visited me a few weeks ago and read my entire Y's collection in 2 days. He was like a drug addict, he could not put it down.

[Chibi_Kaji]

I've been meaning to read Y forever... but I keep forgetting to grab it.

[lokizz]

Y was a great read until the ending. what makes walking dead so great are the people in it and they way they all slowly change to adapt to the new world they live in and even more they notice the changes and wonder if its or wrong. if youre not a fan of he zombie genre i could see why someone wouldnt like it but io its the best zombie book out there. i especialy like how ricks kid has changed through the book its one of those things that make you think.

[crowbb]

Anyone else grab that enormous Olivier Coipel Thor poster? Mine just showed up and it's awesome. I like the tough vinyl material they used as well. Of course now I have to build a darned 10 foot long frame to fit it in....

[homeland]

Just finished Logicomix (http://www.amazon.com/Logicomix-Search-Truth-Apostolos-Doxiadis/dp/1596914521/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262476684&sr=8-1) pretty damn good. I like the artstyle and the story, while not awe inspiring, the writers do a great job with the material.

[Rodimus]

Locke & Key is an amazing comic book. More people need to read this.

[Rei no Otaku]

1st issue of Siege was kind of meh...

At least Blackest Night is still awesome.

[Rodimus]

Seige #1 was good. It's a rewarding read if you've kept up with Marvel. My only complaint is it's a little short.

I know I've said it before but I'm also enjoying Fantastic Four. Issue #574 was a fun read. I've been waiting for them do a more constructive storyline with the Richard kids. If you're a little intrested in the series this would be a good starting point.

[lokizz]

my main question about blackest night is once its all done with those heros who got killed and turned be returned to normal? likewise will any of the reanimated heroes come back to life?

[Rei no Otaku]

my main question about blackest night is once its all done with those heros who got killed and turned be returned to normal? likewise will any of the reanimated heroes come back to life?
I'm going to assume most of them who died are going to be gone for awhile. The ones who recently turned in BN#5 will go back to normal. One of them already did.

Also JSA All Stars is terrific so far. This is the exact kind of JSA book I've been waiting for. I've always been a huge JSA fan and it's nice to see them kicking ass. The other JSA book is ok, but I'm a bit disappointed in it.

[bardockkun]

Kal El is on New Krypton and somehow is on Earth as well and now a Black Lantern. No way is he going to be staying as a corpse after Blackest Night. Especially since they're doing another Superman crossover after this with New Krypton vs. Earth (and him possibly being new leader of Outsiders).

[Rei no Otaku]

Kal El is on New Krypton and somehow is on Earth as well and now a Black Lantern. No way is he going to be staying as a corpse after Blackest Night. Especially since they're doing another Superman crossover after this with New Krypton vs. Earth (and him possibly being new leader of Outsiders).
Don't forget he's also teaming up with Batman in World's Finest #4 lol.

Not sure if I want Supes on the Outsiders... The Outsiders has been a team I've always liked (don't find many Outsiders fans unfortunately...), and I'm not a big fan of Supes.

Also if Peej isn't involved in the upcoming War of the Supermen I'm going to flip.

[bardockkun]

Comic book continuity at it's finest. Then again every other issue has spoiled Steve Roger's return except for Captain America Reborn. Same with Barry Allen and Flash Rebirth. Do the big two even try to release comics on time anymore?

At least Geoff Johns has the excuse of writing the whole goddamn DC Universe right now.

[bigdaddybruce44]

It's stuff like that that pretty turns me off from following comics. I basically only pick up graphic novels of Elseworlds stuff and other such titles. I enjoy a good, self-contained story that cannot be ruined by whatever revisions, reboots, etc they feel like doing.

[Rei no Otaku]

Comic book continuity at it's finest. Then again every other issue has spoiled Steve Roger's return except for Captain America Reborn. Same with Barry Allen and Flash Rebirth. Do the big two even try to release comics on time anymore?

At least Geoff Johns has the excuse of writing the whole goddamn DC Universe right now.
Other than spoilers, this doesn't really bother me. I just assume that not every comic is happening at the exact same time.

[Rodimus]

Comic book continuity at it's finest. Then again every other issue has spoiled Steve Roger's return except for Captain America Reborn.

Marvel spoiled this about 4 or 5 months ago when they said he was returning.

[bardockkun]

Marvel spoiled this about 4 or 5 months ago when they said he was returning.
Yeah, but they didn't give the details except Steve Rogers is returning. Plus with Reborn you didn't know to what capacity his return would mean. Though as of right now we basically know everything we need to without even reading the last issue of Reborn (besides what visions of the future he saw).

It wasn't as big a shocker as it was with Joey Q. going on every friggin media outlet and screaming from the rooftops "CAPTAIN AMERICA DIES IN ISSUE 25!!!!!" Before it's even released.

[Rodimus]

Why did they release the Captian America: Who Will Weild the Sheild one-shot before the final issue of Reborn? I was thinking I missed an issue.

[Rei no Otaku]

It was because of the delays on Reborn.

[Rodimus]

I was looking at the issue numbers and it was orginally 5 issues long, but on issue #5 it says 5 of 6. Were they not able to complete the story in five issues, so the decided to throw one more in?

[Rei no Otaku]

Yup.

[neocisco]

The story was set to be done in 5 issues; however, Marvel saw the early sales numbers and extended the series by 1 issue to milk it some more. They've done this on several other high profile series. Then the books run late (by Millar and Hitch? Inconceivable!) and then the story gets spoiled since details are discussed in other books that actually get turned in on time (Iron Man). Lazy creators with no work ethic are the single biggest problem in comics.

[Dante Devil]

It seems that Bryan Hitch is the posterboy for late comics! I guess him and Steve McNiven.

[manthing]

What was the last comic illustrated by Hitch that came out on time?

[bardockkun]

What was the last comic illustrated by Hitch that came out on time?
His short run on Fantastic Four with Mark Millar.

[Rodimus]

The Millar/Hitch FF run was a complete waste. Nothing came from it. In fact there's barely any mention of it in the new run. Just a comment about Ben's broken engagement, that's it.

[neocisco]

I think Marvel just started their own contest. For March they have solicited 2 noticeable books.

Ultimate Comics New Ultimates by Jeph Loeb and Frank Cho (What an unwieldy title.)
Nemesis by Mark Millar and Steve McNiven

Clearly the contest is to see which book can be the latest. With those 2 writers and pencilers they could easily set an all-time record for lateness. MY money is on Nemesis since, with it being under the Icon imprint, there is no editor that they have to answer to.

[Rodimus]

Jeph Loeb + Ultimates = Fail

[neocisco]

Agreed. You'd think Quesada would have learned his lesson after Ultimatum.

Actually, he probably thought it was great.

[Rodimus]

So what's going to happen with the current Ultimate Avengers title?

[Rei no Otaku]

Ultimate Comics New Ultimates by Jeph Loeb

Ugh. Just ugh...

[LXL_Guy]

Ugh. Just ugh...

My thoughts exactly but I'll wait and see before passing it off.

[bardockkun]

They should just kill the Ultimates line. Ultimatum sent it to hell in a handbasket and nothing to salvage.

[neocisco]

So what's going to happen with the current Ultimate Avengers title?

It's scheduled to end after 6. 6 is scheduled to ship in February but that's not going to happen since 5 has been pushed to the last week in February (at least). The first series was running late before Marvel solicited their March releases (which included the new series) but of course they didn't let that stop them from advertising for it.

Here's another one: Marvel also solicited Ultimate Comics X 1 by Jeph Loeb and Art Adams for February. Again, with those two, this book is essentially guaranteed to be late (and I like Adams).

Cho and Adams are the same guys who each did half issues for a couple of issues on Hulk (Red Hulk) last year. It's like Loeb (or at least his editors) want to work with slow artists intentionally.

AFAIC, the Ultimate line is dead (at least to me). Ultimatum is what put it six feet under. Guess who wrote it? Yup, Jeph Loeb.

[lokizz]

so are the first ultimate comics and these new ones connected or is it a kind of reboot of the concept? i started reading the recent spiderman ultimate conimc which led me to start reading the first ultimate spiderman comic ( which im confused now because wtf happened with the ultimate spiderman game its nothing like the comic).

[Rei no Otaku]

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/01/simone-and-benes-reunite-for-new-birds-of-prey-series/

Yes!!!

[sotc1988]

It's scheduled to end after 6.
Not true. The current arc ends at issue six but the series is ongoing. Leinil Francis Yu is the up-coming artist for the next six issues. I can't provide a solid link but Millar mentions he has twenty-four or so issues of storylines for the series. They will have two ongoing Ultimate Avenger type comics, the other by Jeph Loeb. Preview pictures for it have shown he is continuing the tradition of having a total disregard for any continuity and put Iron Man into a costume that looks exactly like his 616 incarnation and giving Loki the exact same costume he has in the main Thor series.

[neocisco]

Millar's title isn't solicited for March so it's probably on hiatus for a little while. Regardless, the quality of the Ultimate line is in the crapper.

so are the first ultimate comics and these new ones connected or is it a kind of reboot of the concept? i started reading the recent spiderman ultimate conimc which led me to start reading the first ultimate spiderman comic ( which im confused now because wtf happened with the ultimate spiderman game its nothing like the comic).

AFAIK, there has been no explanation to bridge what happened to Spidey in Ultimatum and the new series. The first series is an excellent read so you can't go wrong there. Bendis wrote it well and Bagley and Immonen (particularly Bagley) delivered an incredible run on the art.

[Rei no Otaku]

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/01/marvel-offers-retailers-a-rare-variant-in-exchange-for-unsold-dc-comics/

Seems like a pretty childish move by Marvel.

[D4rkewolfe]

Hmmm, haven't been in the off topic forums in forever. Didn't realize there was a comic book thread.

I haven't gone to the shop in 3 weeks with the holidays and trips, so I'll be going tomorrow. Not like I've missed much so far since even one week was pretty much the Blackest Night 6 issue.

[bardockkun]

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/01/marvel-offers-retailers-a-rare-variant-in-exchange-for-unsold-dc-comics/

Seems like a pretty childish move by Marvel.
Ugh, that feels pathetic. What's the point of this anyways? It feels like a desperate attempt for attention. Shit like this is what makes me remember why I'm buying less and less Marvel titles because of stupid stunts like this by their assclown Editor in Chief.

[Rei no Otaku]

Why don't they instead offer this incentive for all the shitty Hulk and Dark Reign books clogging up store shelves? Seems they're a bit bitter about Blackest Night's success

[ppself]

Hmmm, haven't been in the off topic forums in forever. Didn't realize there was a comic book thread.

I haven't gone to the shop in 3 weeks with the holidays and trips, so I'll be going tomorrow. Not like I've missed much so far since even one week was pretty much the Blackest Night 6 issue.


Me too, i haven't been to the comic shop since before Xmas and i am already hearing that Ultimate Avengers is getting canned already.

Hoping to go this weekend and catch up on some issues.

It's good to see a comic book thread that is actually kicking though. I am always talking about what i just read but can't find anyone to tell. :P

[bardockkun]

Me too, i haven't been to the comic shop since before Xmas and i am already hearing that Ultimate Avengers is getting canned already.
Don't waste your time with the Ultimate Universe. It'll only get shittier before it gets better...

[Rei no Otaku]

Don't waste your time with the Ultimate Universe. It'll only get shittier before it gets better...
Kind of how I feel about Marvel at the moment...

[diddy310]

DC was going to offer an incentive for all of the Necrosha tie ins, but most comic stores are using them as toilet paper and to hold up wobbly tables already.

[Rei no Otaku]

Seriously. I'm a huge X fan, but Necrosha sucked. The only good part about it was that it made Doug Ramsey awesome.

[diddy310]

Yeah, New Mutants is the lone bright spot.

Seriously, Selene is going to become a goddess with the help of the Blink nobody gives a shit about, Senyaka who has died at least 4 times and nobody cared to notice or explain, a New X-Men cast off, and Dazzler's sister.

Oh and let's resurrect Stonewall and Maggot as cannon fodder while we're at it. They were both so effective the first time around.

[Rei no Otaku]

I know this is probably blasphemy, but I'm going to say it. I think New Mutants is the best X book out right now. Zeb Wells is doing a fantastic job. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying X-Force, but I have two problems with it right now.

1. What the fuck is going on with Rahne and the wolf prince guy who's name I can never remember? The pay off for that better be pretty good for all the boring moments I've had to read through dealing with those two.

2. Necrosha sucks

[diddy310]

I expect it's sole purpose to cause an X-Force/Siege tie-in.

[bardockkun]

I Haven't read Siege (nor did I pick it up), but according to all my friends it sounds pretty crappy. With Franken-Castle, another X crossover, an excuse to return to status quo in the Marvel universe with Siege and the big event of getting Spidey back with Mary Jane this year; is there ANY bright spots in Marvel comics? I Used to enjoy Daredevil, but man it feels slow with the new arc and I have a bad feeling the pay off is going to be totally rushed. Plus the fact he is now part of the whole Marvel universe now kinda loses the noir feel it once had. It feels like last thing I really enjoyed was Old Man Logan.

Oh and I REALLY Hate Joey Q. I Think the only Marvel anything I'll buy without hesitation this year is if they release the whole run of Alan Moore's Miracleman in hardcover.

[diddy310]

I ordered the David Mack Kabuki Reflections hardcover. Only thing I'm really excited about that I know is coming out soon. That and the massive Thor poster that is on backorder right now :/

[Rei no Otaku]

I expect it's sole purpose to cause an X-Force/Siege tie-in.
Ugh, you're probably right.

I Haven't read Siege (nor did I pick it up), but according to all my friends it sounds pretty crappy. With Franken-Castle, another X crossover, an excuse to return to status quo in the Marvel universe with Siege and the big event of getting Spidey back with Mary Jane this year; is there ANY bright spots in Marvel comics? I Used to enjoy Daredevil, but man it feels slow with the new arc and I have a bad feeling the pay off is going to be totally rushed. Plus the fact he is now part of the whole Marvel universe now kinda loses the noir feel it once had. It feels like last thing I really enjoyed was Old Man Logan.

Oh and I REALLY Hate Joey Q. I Think the only Marvel anything I'll buy without hesitation this year is if they release the whole run of Alan Moore's Miracleman in hardcover.
Only things from Marvel I enjoy are Runaways, New Mutants, and X-Force. Though I'm still buying all the X books out of habit at this point (though I don't think Fraction is as bad as people say). I was actually enjoying Ms. Marvel, but of course that's being canceled.

Which brings me to another problem I have with Marvel, and that's what feels like the lack of good female superheroes. I really enjoy female superheroes, and on the DC side there's so many to choose from. There's Wonder Woman, Power Girl, Supergirl, the AMAZING Batwoman run in Detective Comics right now. It took a couple issues, but Batgirl is definitely decent right now. DC just announced they're starting up Birds of Prey again with Gail Simone on board. Even DC's team books give the women a good amount of panel time.

[bardockkun]

And that Zatanna series by Paul Dini should be coming too...

Never really thought about the whole women's role in Marvel comics, but Jesus, you're right! Only thing I can think of off handas a solo women's title in Marvel are just mini series (Black Widow and Psylocke). Besides that there really are no strong female leads in Marvel except when they need a temporary status quo change and blame it on PMS (see Scarlet Witch).

[ppself]

Don't waste your time with the Ultimate Universe. It'll only get shittier before it gets better...

Yea, after Ultimatum i pretty much limited my buys to the Avengers title.

SpiderMan is gay. Xmen was my favorite but after the Cable storyline it went to trash and i stopped buying at much. FF i never really stuck too, mainly because i don't even follow the issues in the 616 universe either.

I was liking Ultimate Avengers and it's storyline, but Iron Man's crybaby attitude for killing Wolverine is getting old and tiresome.

Wish they would bring back Hulk though.

[karsh]

For female-solo-books in Marvel, the only thing I can think of that's not a mini-series is Spider-Woman.

[Chibi_Kaji]

I keep seeing this thread and remembering I want to get back into comics again(Outside of picking up graphic novels). Since I recently rewatched the Justice League cartoon(and some of the Direct to DVD stuff) I'm kind of on a DC kick so I'm thinking of checking out Batman, Batwoman and Power Girl. Any other recommendations?

[bardockkun]

I keep seeing this thread and remembering I want to get back into comics again(Outside of picking up graphic novels). Since I recently rewatched the Justice League cartoon(and some of the Direct to DVD stuff) I'm kind of on a DC kick so I'm thinking of checking out Batman, Batwoman and Power Girl. Any other recommendations?
Green Lantern/Green Lantern Corps/Blackest Night. It's about 21 comics or so right now total for the crossover (just counting core titles), but there's so many variant's and reprints at my comic shops that it's not hard to get all the story. It's a big investment comic wise, but so far it's pretty damn good (better then alot of recent crossovers).

Invincible I'd recommend on the basis that it's the best damn superhero comic on the market. Adventure Comics is also a pretty fun read, it sticks to it's own continuity for the most part and makes someone with an S on their chest not boring for once. Plus remember Batwoman is in Detective Comics and it is the most gorgeous thing every month.

[Rei no Otaku]

I keep seeing this thread and remembering I want to get back into comics again(Outside of picking up graphic novels). Since I recently rewatched the Justice League cartoon(and some of the Direct to DVD stuff) I'm kind of on a DC kick so I'm thinking of checking out Batman, Batwoman and Power Girl. Any other recommendations?
Definitely check out Secret Six which is one of the best books DC has out right now. As for as Batman definitely go for the Batman and Robin series by Grant Morrison which is very gritty. I can recommend Batgirl now because while the first few issues were kind of slow it has come into its own at this point. Glad you decided on Power Girl, she's my favorite! If you like her definitely check out JSA All Stars which is the team she leads. The series just started, and I think it's great so far.

I'll second Adventure Comics and the Blackest Night event. Speaking of which, I've been loving the old series that DC has been bringing back for one issue that tie into Blackest Night. See Marvel, this is how you do an event.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Yeah, I was already interested in Blackest Night after checking out the extras for GL: First Flight. But seeing as I'm a little behind I'll wait for for a collection. I can see Amazon has a few different volumes for pre-order(Just need figure out what to get first).

Detective Comics was on my list as well since a co-worker mentioned it a few times. I also saw a Batwoman graphic novel on amazon that I may check out if I like what I read.

[JolietJake]

I had no idea there was a Planet Hulk movie coming soon.

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Hulk-Blu-ray-Greg-Pak/dp/B002WNUVJS/ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_b

[ppself]

I had no idea there was a Planet Hulk movie coming soon.



http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Hulk-Blu-ray-Greg-Pak/dp/B002WNUVJS/ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_b

I had no idea either. I guess Disney picked up the bill on this. I have a feeling they will do tons more cartoon comic movies like this in the future.

It didn't look that bad either, but them cartoons are always cheesy.

[Rei no Otaku]

Nah, that Hulk movie has been in the works since long before the Disney merger.

[bardockkun]

That Hulk vs. movie was actually good though. So hopefully World War Hulk will be as good. Though I'll admit all the Marvel straight to DVD titles before it have been terrible.



Detective Comics was on my list as well since a co-worker mentioned it a few times. I also saw a Batwoman graphic novel on amazon that I may check out if I like what I read.
On the subject of fun female driven comics, there's also Gotham City Sirens written by Paul Dini (of the Animated Batman fame in the 90's). It's basically centered around Catwoman, Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as they try and work together. Nothing too serious, but the art is good and it's good fare to follow up on if you enjoy Power Girl (though isn't as awesome as Power Girl).

[Rei no Otaku]

That Hulk vs. movie was actually good though. So hopefully World War Hulk will be as good. Though I'll admit all the Marvel straight to DVD titles before it have been terrible.


On the subject of fun female driven comics, there's also Gotham City Sirens written by Paul Dini (of the Animated Batman fame in the 90's). It's basically centered around Catwoman, Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as they try and work together. Nothing too serious, but the art is good and it's good fare to follow up on if you enjoy Power Girl (though isn't as awesome as Power Girl).
I can't wait for Dini's Zatanna on-going. Also here's some more from Marvel about their Siege #3 variant trade-in:

I see there's a lot of chatter about our SIEGE #3 offer, so I have to ask the question: how is this bad? We're making no money on the deal (actually losing a little) but it will put some more much-needed cash in retailers' pockets, And if your retailer doesn't have these books in stock, excellent! Good on them, they ordered appropriate to their customer base. But while no retailer wants to hurt their relationship with DC, we've been hearing from lots of them that they're happy we're offering this. As for the stripping, that's all about making it cheaper for these guys to send the books back. But we'll take complete copies too. And sure, send the stripped insides to the troops--well done, you! They tend not to keep comics mint on the battlefield in the first place. And while we listed the titles we'd be taking--all of the "ring" books-- we never mentioned either DC or Blackest Night at all. Not a knock. And if DC wants to make their own offer, let 'em! That's cool too, if it frees up deadlocked capital for retailers to order new stuff.
Go fuck yourselves. Honestly, as big of an X-Men fan as I am I'm pretty damn close to dropping every Marvel book out of my pull...

[bigdaddybruce44]

So, it went from appearing to be a dick move to them pretty much confirming it is a dick move. Nice.

[bardockkun]

Marvel should be giving away gold covered variants instead considering more then half their comics are $3.99 (let's not even talk about all the normal variants they already put out).

[Chibi_Kaji]

Yeah, I believe that Planet Hulk movie was announced at the last comic-con along with a few other movies. I was think of picking that up but the Marvel's Direct to DVD movies have been hit or miss with me so I'll hold off.

[ppself]

lol, i just saw a ad for Ultimate X. The one with a blond wolverine with claws out at the bus stop in high school. :P


When i saw it, all i could think of was that Wolverines left over arm from ultimatum had regrown it self with no memory or adamantium. And is wandering around not knowing where he came from or who he is. Basically reliving his life from scratch.

That is a lame idea from me, so i expect a lamer idea form Loeb.

[Rei no Otaku]

I can't wait for the Birds of Prey relaunch. Rumor from pictures of the cover are that Dove will be on the team. If that's the case I'm even more excited!

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/01/bop_01cover600cmyk-7-sm.jpg

[rapsodist]

I need to find some new comics series to read. Fables and The Walking Dead are still ongoing, but that's about it now that 100 Bullets is finished and Astro City has really slowed to a crawl. I used to read Daredevil when Bendis and Maleev were on board, Astonishing X-Men when Whedon was writing, and Runaways when Brian K. Vaughan was in charge. Has anything else come out in the past 5 years that might have slipped my notice? I've been going through this thread but nothing seems to connect with me.

[diddy310]

Big Thor poster arrived today and it's amazing. I just need to find 9.8 feet of empty wall and some way to put it up there.

[karkyco]

lol, i just saw a ad for Ultimate X. The one with a blond wolverine with claws out at the bus stop in high school. :P


When i saw it, all i could think of was that Wolverines left over arm from ultimatum had regrown it self with no memory or adamantium. And is wandering around not knowing where he came from or who he is. Basically reliving his life from scratch.

That is a lame idea from me, so i expect a lamer idea form Loeb.

FLOL, exactly what I was thinking. Either some remaining cells on the arm regrew the entire body, or some sinister scientists grafted the adamantium arm onto some spunky high school kid, and hilarity ensues. Although, doesn't the ad show him having two sets of claws? Just walking to school with claws popped out, yeah very inconspicuous. Just more shit from the Mighty Marvel House of Ideas.

God why do I still buy so much of their crap? MUST...STOP!!!

I need to find some new comics series to read. Fables and The Walking Dead are still ongoing, but that's about it now that 100 Bullets is finished and Astro City has really slowed to a crawl. I used to read Daredevil when Bendis and Maleev were on board, Astonishing X-Men when Whedon was writing, and Runaways when Brian K. Vaughan was in charge. Has anything else come out in the past 5 years that might have slipped my notice? I've been going through this thread but nothing seems to connect with me.


Hey, Rapsodist...didn't know you were a comic book aficianado (junkie) like moi! Nice to see a fellow LA dude reading the great American artform.

Let's see...Fables, check. Walking Dead, check. Everything that you've mentioned you've dug, I've dug, so we definitely have similar tastes. I haven't checked out that Kirkman/McFarlane overhyped new title, Haunt or Shroud or whatever the hell it is, because come on, at first glance that looks like Spawn Reloaded/Part 2. You like Astro City, check out Super Gods. Just started so you should be able to get issue 1 and 2 still.

Oh and get Ennis's The Boys. MUST. GET. THE. BOYS. Let's see, what else can't I live without? Darkest Night, but only the main limited series, Green Lantern, and Green Lantern Corps. All Star Batman (Morrison, not Miller) has been fun, as expected. Read All Star Superman if you haven't...that was just sooo much fun, reminded me of the whacky Superman and DC in general stories of the 50's and 60's.

Marvel? Thor was soooooo slow to get going, but now it's getting tasty. JMS, as with all his work IMHO, drags 1 issue worth of comic out into 6 parts, but that's just how it is. Oh and the current Ultimates. Get all 4 or 5 issues. The fourth storyline is bringing it back to its former glory, back when Millar and Hitch just blew the roof off the super hero team for the new century/millenium. And if you haven't read Ultimates 1 and 2 (basically, years 1 and 2...13 issues each)...then get the trades or better yet the Marvel hardcovers, or the omnibus if it exists. Simply fantastic. The third series really fucked everything up, and the Ultimate universe has indeed been almost all shit for the past few years. Marvel is just pumping crap right now...really reminds me of the worst of the 90's...far too many limited series for the most useless and worthless characters, too much crossover nonsense, ridiculous prices and the damn bogus limited/incentive variants.

[diddy310]

I just figured Fury glued all the dead Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates parts together

[Dante Devil]

I need to find some new comics series to read. Fables and The Walking Dead are still ongoing, but that's about it now that 100 Bullets is finished and Astro City has really slowed to a crawl. I used to read Daredevil when Bendis and Maleev were on board, Astonishing X-Men when Whedon was writing, and Runaways when Brian K. Vaughan was in charge. Has anything else come out in the past 5 years that might have slipped my notice? I've been going through this thread but nothing seems to connect with me.

You should pick up Unwritten. Its fairly new, so I bet you could pick up the back issues fairly easily. Its a Vertigo title.

[neocisco]

...and Astro City has really slowed to a crawl.

:-s For the last 2 years, Astro City has been on it's most consistent schedule ever. Busiek has been doing a 4 issue arc generally followed by a month off then a one-shot, a month off and then another 4 issue arc.

Read Planetary. 'Nuff said.

[rapsodist]

I forgot to mention that I'm a huge fan of Concrete by Paul Chadwick. Is there anything similar to that in tone or style that you guys can recommend?

Hey, Rapsodist...didn't know you were a comic book aficianado (junkie) like moi! Nice to see a fellow LA dude reading the great American artform.

Let's see...Fables, check. Walking Dead, check. Everything that you've mentioned you've dug, I've dug, so we definitely have similar tastes. I haven't checked out that Kirkman/McFarlane overhyped new title, Haunt or Shroud or whatever the hell it is, because come on, at first glance that looks like Spawn Reloaded/Part 2. You like Astro City, check out Super Gods. Just started so you should be able to get issue 1 and 2 still.

Oh and get Ennis's The Boys. MUST. GET. THE. BOYS. Let's see, what else can't I live without? Darkest Night, but only the main limited series, Green Lantern, and Green Lantern Corps. All Star Batman (Morrison, not Miller) has been fun, as expected. Read All Star Superman if you haven't...that was just sooo much fun, reminded me of the whacky Superman and DC in general stories of the 50's and 60's.

Marvel? Thor was soooooo slow to get going, but now it's getting tasty. JMS, as with all his work IMHO, drags 1 issue worth of comic out into 6 parts, but that's just how it is. Oh and the current Ultimates. Get all 4 or 5 issues. The fourth storyline is bringing it back to its former glory, back when Millar and Hitch just blew the roof off the super hero team for the new century/millenium. And if you haven't read Ultimates 1 and 2 (basically, years 1 and 2...13 issues each)...then get the trades or better yet the Marvel hardcovers, or the omnibus if it exists. Simply fantastic. The third series really fucked everything up, and the Ultimate universe has indeed been almost all shit for the past few years. Marvel is just pumping crap right now...really reminds me of the worst of the 90's...far too many limited series for the most useless and worthless characters, too much crossover nonsense, ridiculous prices and the damn bogus limited/incentive variants.

Hey karkyco, you learn something new everyday! I am indeed a comic book aficionado. I grew up on comics like pretty much every other red-blooded American male, then "grew up" and forsook the hobby, and eventually came back when I read Maus as an adult and realized the potency of the medium.

I did read All-Star Superman and am sad that it's over. I actually wasn't feeling it for the first few issues but it slowly grew on me. I'm glad I gave that one a chance! I didn't realize that All-Star Batman had changed hands--I may have to check it out in that case. Never heard of The Boys, will be sure to give that a look.

I have to be honest, I read the first volume of The Ultimates, and didn't really like it at all. I've been meaning to pick up the next volume and give the series another chance just 'cause everybody else raves about it.

Definitely never heard of Super Gods. I tried Googling it but couldn't find pertinent information. Who's the creator/writer/artist/publisher?

You should pick up Unwritten. Its fairly new, so I bet you could pick up the back issues fairly easily. Its a Vertigo title.

Unwritten, huh? Sounds like a riff on Harry Potter. It's Vertigo though, so I'm down to give it a try. Thanks for the rec!

:-s For the last 2 years, Astro City has been on it's most consistent schedule ever. Busiek has been doing a 4 issue arc generally followed by a month off then a one-shot, a month off and then another 4 issue arc.

Read Planetary. 'Nuff said.

I guess I probably don't follow comics as heavily/frequently as you do, so I'm thinking in bigger blocks of years. All I know is that I've seen like, what, 15 issues in the past decade? Sure would be nice to see Astro City really pick up some steam again! I re-read issues #1 and #1/2 pretty regularly.

I do have a friend with the entire run of Planetary who's always telling me to borrow the books. Will have to do that sometime!

[ppself]

FLOL, exactly what I was thinking. Either some remaining cells on the arm regrew the entire body, or some sinister scientists grafted the adamantium arm onto some spunky high school kid, and hilarity ensues. Although, doesn't the ad show him having two sets of claws? Just walking to school with claws popped out, yeah very inconspicuous. Just more shit from the Mighty Marvel House of Ideas.

God why do I still buy so much of their crap? MUST...STOP!!!






I know i have stopped buying Ultimate comics, cept for Ultimate Avengers.

I'll download the Universe X and see what kind of comic it's going to be, before i commit to buying. But i doubt i will like it. The art looks dumb and Jeph Loeb is writing, so i expect a dumb story as well.

[bardockkun]

Is it weird my favorite Geoff Johns title right now is Superman: Secret Origins?

Plus Captain America Reborn #6 really makes me question why they felt the need to make it a 6 parter story wise. Plus Steve's visions of the future oh boy! Marvel vs. War of the Worlds!

[Rei no Otaku]

Is it weird my favorite Geoff Johns title right now is Superman: Secret Origins?
I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it is pretty damn good.

[bardockkun]

I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it is pretty damn good.
It almost feels like best Superman stories are always about his early years and this one is no different. Though I like Johns' take on how Metropolis is basically just a hopeless place to be and everyone fending for themselves. That and how Superman is written as the beacon of hope everyone needed, but are so slow to embrace.

Plus Gary Frank's art and facial expressions on everyone just adds so much more.

Oh and Daredevil NOW feels like it's starting to pick up pace.

[ppself]

Has anybody been reading Spawn since that coma dude became spawn?

I haven't been buying them since it was starting to suck, but it feel off the planet.

I saw another UniverseX ad with blond wolvie with claws on both hands, then i saw a gray hulk behind him. :(

[JolietJake]

Has green Hulk become more intelligent lately? Say since around the World War Hulk time?

[manthing]

Is it weird my favorite Geoff Johns title right now is Superman: Secret Origins?

Plus Captain America Reborn #6 really makes me question why they felt the need to make it a 6 parter story wise. Plus Steve's visions of the future oh boy! Marvel vs. War of the Worlds!

You mean Killraven's timeline?

Has green Hulk become more intelligent lately? Say since around the World War Hulk time?

Nope.

Matter of fact, Bruce can't turn into Hulk anymore, or chooses not to, don't remember which.

[JolietJake]

Well in that case, a certain movie which i can't discuss yet is fucked up.

What happened in the comic to do that? Did they separate Hulk and Banner or something?

[lokizz]

anybody else think the ending of Kick Ass was kind of lame? kind of a letdown after waiting so long. i like the seige so far its cool to see some of the lesser pushed/used characters coming out and stepping up like the taskmaster hes always been a favorite of mine i didnt like when they tried to get him to be able to copy mutant powers but as is hes one of the coolest marvel villans. like deadpool with common sense.

[neocisco]

Kick Ass was made to sell for the movie rights. It being a comic is essentially a secondary benefit. The same goes for Millar's new series Nemesis.

[lokizz]

Kick Ass was made to sell for the movie rights. It being a comic is essentially a secondary benefit. The same goes for Millar's new series Nemesis.

damn shame the story was pretty interesting until the last comic.

[Rodimus]

Haven't got the last issue of Kick Ass yet, but yeah, they were shoping around for a movie deal well before issue #1 came out.

[bardockkun]

You mean Killraven's timeline?

Completely forgot about Killraven's universe. Though yes, basically.

I Guess Marvel may try and pull that out like they did with Kamandi in FInal Crisis.

[Rei no Otaku]

I Guess Marvel may try and pull that out like they did with Kamandi in FInal Crisis.
Why did you have to mention that? I don't mind Final Crisis, but that always reminds me of Countdown...

[bardockkun]

Why did you have to mention that? I don't mind Final Crisis, but that always reminds me of Countdown...
Hey those issues mock me everytime I go near my long boxes. You're not only one living off of regret for buying into that.

[Dante Devil]

I sometimes think Mark Millar is just full of himself. He annoys me just as much as Bendis and Quesada.

[bardockkun]

I sometimes think Mark Millar is just full of himself. He annoys me just as much as Bendis and Quesada.
Considering his work ethic and how on time he is with all his titles. Yeah, it's safe to believe that.

Joey Q. is just a friggin idiot though.

[Rei no Otaku]

I sometimes think Mark Millar is just full of himself. He annoys me just as much as Bendis and Quesada.
The first two I'm indifferent about, but Quesada is an asshole.

[Rodimus]

I'm exhausted of Dark Reign and seeing Norman Osborn in every Marvel comic. I'd like to see Marvel take a year or two and just focus on each character's individual story.

[ppself]

I'm exhausted of Dark Reign and seeing Norman Osborn in every Marvel comic. I'd like to see Marvel take a year or two and just focus on each character's individual story.


Well. They are exploring The Sentry's origin now.

But i can see that Norman is going to break really soon and things will be back to normal.

[lokizz]

its pretty obvious hes not going to be able to keep it together much longer add to that the fact that theres plenty of people under him who want him dead i could see norman either being killed off or incapacitated so that someone else could take his place. ares would obviously leave since all he cares about is his son but itd be cool to see daken take over. im still curious though wtf is going to happen with night thrashers body. also if you can close whole bodies who do so many heros/villans not get new limbs made for them after they lose them?

[Rei no Otaku]

Well. They are exploring The Sentry's origin now.
I hate Sentry with the power of a million exploding suns...

[smiley424]

Well in that case, a certain movie which i can't discuss yet is fucked up.

What happened in the comic to do that? Did they separate Hulk and Banner or something?

I collected Hulk during the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk arcs, and from reading them, Green Hulk was of average intelligence, not the primal savage "Hulk Smash" that most folks associate with the Hulk. During the arcs, it seems as if the Hulk personality asserted dominance over the Banner personality, you only saw Banner in a couple panels during the two arcs. Dropped Hulk after the disappointing end to WWH.

[ppself]

I hate Sentry with the power of a million exploding suns...


Holy crap, has anyone gotten Siege #2 yet?


Sentry goes mental and does something totally unexpected, and probably more reasons why to hate him. :P


I like him, but he's way to overpowered. He needs to be nerfed.

But if you read the last New Avengers i think, they are exploring more of Sentry's real origins making him look like a drug addict criminal.

[Rei no Otaku]

My problem isn't that he's overpowered. I mean I read mostly DC comics the home of Superman, Power Girl, Spectre, and any number of characters that could lay waste to the entire Marvel Universe without much effort. My problem is that no one knows how to write for a character like that over at Marvel. Every time the Sentry is brought into play it goes something like this:

Osborne: Ok Bob, go get them!
Sentry: *goes in and is immediately taken out of the fight*
Osborne: Avengers assemble!

Like what the fuck is the point? So instead of bothering to figure out a way to make a character like that interesting, they use a plot point to remove him so they don't have to be bothered.

[manthing]

Siege #2 was turrible.

Outside of the last panel, I was angry at the comic.

[bardockkun]

The general consensus from people who have read Siege that I know personally seems to be anger.

[Rei no Otaku]

Marvel sucks at events.

[ppself]

lol, strong hate on Siege.

I don't even like the fact that Norse mythology is in Marvel and that this story is based off of it. But i am glad something is happening that will bring things back to normal and Osborn out of power.

The only time i liked Sentry was when Hulk came back to earth after WWH and they fought. He seemed like a wuss then fighting Hulk, but now he's all power with no consequence.

He basically reminds me of the robot Thor in Civil War. Actually, this whole story reminds me of Civil War. :P

[bardockkun]

Marvel sucks at events.
This is true...

And each time an earth shattering event happens, the next two events after it returns all that was originally done back to normal.

[Dante Devil]

I collected Hulk during the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk arcs, and from reading them, Green Hulk was of average intelligence, not the primal savage "Hulk Smash" that most folks associate with the Hulk. During the arcs, it seems as if the Hulk personality asserted dominance over the Banner personality, you only saw Banner in a couple panels during the two arcs. Dropped Hulk after the disappointing end to WWH.

Same, here. I did collect when they had the RED Hulk, but that got old very fast and I dropped that title. Now, Hulk has 2 sons and a daughter! I thought there was just the Skarr, son of Hulk.

[neocisco]

The ending of Siege, quality-wise, hasn't been well received by other Marvel writers. IMO, in the end they'll just be glad to not be so tied in to an overarching storyline a la Dark Reign.

[Rei no Otaku]

Just glad the X-Men books haven't been TOO tied to Dark Reign. But I swear, if Second Coming sucks I will raise hell!

[bardockkun]

I Already have little faith in Marvel with how they're hyping up the return Kitty Pryde in X-Men. I Like it being a surprise like Colossus and how he came back. Still ranks as one of my favorite X-Men moments.

[coolsteel]

So Nate Grey (X-man) is finally back after years of living as energy, about damn time

[Rei no Otaku]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/02/04/zatanna-strikes-out-on-her-own/

Emit tuoba!!

[bardockkun]

I'm digging the artwork on Zatanna. Can't wait to pick that up.

[JolietJake]

I collected Hulk during the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk arcs, and from reading them, Green Hulk was of average intelligence, not the primal savage "Hulk Smash" that most folks associate with the Hulk. During the arcs, it seems as if the Hulk personality asserted dominance over the Banner personality, you only saw Banner in a couple panels during the two arcs. Dropped Hulk after the disappointing end to WWH.
I guess i'm just used to the more savage Hulk then, he just seemed way more intelligent than i remember the Hulk being. I'm not used to seeing him carry on complex conversations with people.

[lobito]

This is true...

And each time an earth shattering event happens, the next two events after it returns all that was originally done back to normal.

:applause: Exactly!! It seems they hype every story just to sell comics, and then to sell more they have variant covers!! Then when it is all said and done, everything goes back to normal (the way it was before the great earth shaking story). The dead have always come back at Marvel.

Unfortunately, DC decided they were lagging behind moneywise and started doing the same crap! :bomb:

I won't even get started on the whole Bruce Wayne:-#......:bomb:

[bardockkun]

At least Blackest Night gave me a realization that there are alot of dead characters over in DC. Marvel wise only one I can think of now is probably just Uncle Ben. Though Brightest Day I'm skeptic on simply because I want the dead to stay dead. Does DC REALLY need Aquaman back? To be honest I didn't even know he was dead until Blackest Night #0.

As for Bruce Wayne, well...

I Don't want to talk about it. I'll still pick it up and be confused as hell, but I prefer him dead as opposed to fighting time.

[lokizz]

At least Blackest Night gave me a realization that there are alot of dead characters over in DC. Marvel wise only one I can think of now is probably just Uncle Ben. Though Brightest Day I'm skeptic on simply because I want the dead to stay dead. Does DC REALLY need Aquaman back? To be honest I didn't even know he was dead until Blackest Night #0.

As for Bruce Wayne, well...

I Don't want to talk about it. I'll still pick it up and be confused as hell, but I prefer him dead as opposed to fighting time.

yeah the whole dead bruce thing has gotten even more confusing. so tim thinks hes lost in time but dick thinks hes dead and is now going to use a lazarus pit to bring him back ? so which is it is he dead or in time? i do like the diff characters in the universe being temporary lanterns i hope the scarecrow and guy guardner stay with their new respective rings. red rings are cool.

[Rei no Otaku]

At least Blackest Night gave me a realization that there are alot of dead characters over in DC. Marvel wise only one I can think of now is probably just Uncle Ben. Though Brightest Day I'm skeptic on simply because I want the dead to stay dead. Does DC REALLY need Aquaman back? To be honest I didn't even know he was dead until Blackest Night #0.

As for Bruce Wayne, well...

I Don't want to talk about it. I'll still pick it up and be confused as hell, but I prefer him dead as opposed to fighting time.
Have they confirmed who's coming back after BN? As for Bruce, we'll see. I do like Morrison so I'll hold judgment.

yeah the whole dead bruce thing has gotten even more confusing. so tim thinks hes lost in time but dick thinks hes dead and is now going to use a lazarus pit to bring him back ? so which is it is he dead or in time? i do like the diff characters in the universe being temporary lanterns i hope the scarecrow and guy guardner stay with their new respective rings. red rings are cool.
The way I see it is Bruce is in the past, but dead in the present.

[bardockkun]

Have they confirmed who's coming back after BN? As for Bruce, we'll see. I do like Morrison so I'll hold judgment.

Morrison is waaaay too hit (WE3, Marvel Boy, JLA, All Star Superman) or miss (Final Crisis, Batman RIP, Seven Soldiers).

[Rei no Otaku]

Morrison is waaaay too hit (WE3, Marvel Boy, JLA, All Star Superman) or miss (Final Crisis, Batman RIP, Seven Soldiers).
I liked Final Crisis, but I'll give you Batman RIP and Seven Soldiers as sucking.

I also tend to give him a lot of credit because of his X-Men run. I LOVED his run on New X-Men.

[manthing]

New X-Men was the best thing to happen to mutants since Claremont/Byrne

[Rei no Otaku]

New X-Men was the best thing to happen to mutants since Claremont/Byrne
So fucking true.

[manthing]

Didja read Nation X #2?

It had Martha and Quentin Quire!

[Rei no Otaku]

Didja read Nation X #2?

It had Martha and Quentin Quire!
Oh I definitely read it, and that part was hilarious. I had been looking forward to the Jubilee section, and I ended up liking the other part more.

[neocisco]

:applause: Exactly!! It seems they hype every story just to sell comics, and then to sell more they have variant covers!! Then when it is all said and done, everything goes back to normal (the way it was before the great earth shaking story). The dead have always come back at Marvel.

Unfortunately, DC decided they were lagging behind moneywise and started doing the same crap! :bomb:

I won't even get started on the whole Bruce Wayne:-#......:bomb:

DC is just as bad and a very good case could be made that they're worse. In the last 20 years they've practically gone down the list of their major (and minor characters) like a hitman. Marvel is just as bad at this point but haven't been doing it as long. Regardless, both companies are so predictable at this point that one would have to be an absolute fool to actually believe that either DC or Marvel isn't killing a character off just to boost sales and then bring them back to juice sales again. Killing off a chraracter is just lazy because everyone knows how it's going to end.

[manthing]

Oh I definitely read it, and that part was hilarious. I had been looking forward to the Jubilee section, and I ended up liking the other part more.

Didja see Fantomex was in one of the other Mutie books as well?

[Rei no Otaku]

Didja see Fantomex was in one of the other Mutie books as well?
Yup it was a couple issues ago in Uncanny. I thought that was awesome as well.

[Dante Devil]

Hey, any of you guys use a mail order service? I need to leave my service because they've had to increase their shipping, no longer cost effective.

[Snuckles]

Anybody read batman and robin issue 7?

Spoilers:




Why would Grayson do that!? I guess its a way bring a shock or something or watever but that doesn't seem like Grayson at all.

[smiley424]

Hey, any of you guys use a mail order service? I need to leave my service because they've had to increase their shipping, no longer cost effective.

I use midtowncomics.com and I am very satisfied with their service. They bag and board every comic and then wrap in bubble wrap. I live all the way in Guam right now but I liked to drop by their stores in NYC whenever I had a chance. Check them out.

[Kilraven]

Morrison is waaaay too hit (WE3, Marvel Boy, JLA, All Star Superman) or miss (Final Crisis, Batman RIP, Seven Soldiers).

It's not that he's hit or miss, it's that he can't structure a major story without fucking up any semblance of an ending - like he runs out of time. He reminds me of every show writer faced with an unexpected cancellation before the season is over: quickly tie-up a planned two-year storyline in 3 episodes. He stretches the beginning of a storyline out, then is forced to condense the climax and denouement into one issue. Every fucking story arc that man has written seems to get amended by one more issue (halfway through) and finishes up a convolute mess. Even with his JLA run being as awesome as it was, Rock of Ages went from 5 to 6 and World War III went from 6 to 7 - both stumbling at the end. Hell, after reading Final Crisis I think the man really needed another couple of issues. Maybe then I would've gotten more than: I don't know what the fuck is going on, but there seems to be a black Superman and Batman shot Darkseid.

[lokizz]

Anybody read batman and robin issue 7?

Spoilers:




Why would Grayson do that!? I guess its a way bring a shock or something or watever but that doesn't seem like Grayson at all.


yeah especially since ( aside from that guy pretending to be bruce and spending tons of money) hes got everything under control. besides i doubt bruce would be happy with him doing that . that is if it actually works.

[ppself]

I use midtowncomics.com and I am very satisfied with their service. They bag and board every comic and then wrap in bubble wrap. I live all the way in Guam right now but I liked to drop by their stores in NYC whenever I had a chance. Check them out.


I might have to check them out too. My local comic store just went out of business and there are not that many comic retailers around me in Ga.

[Rei no Otaku]

I've checked out a few online places, but I can't do it. I've been going to my LCS for YEARS. I get the kind of service there you just don't find at other places. I don't even have to ask for things, the owner knows exactly what I like and puts it aside for me when it comes in. I get a 20% discount, and preferential treatment. Sure I could save more money going other places, but there's more important things to me than saving a few bucks every week.

Anyone else reading Red Robin? I think it's been really good. Probably my favorite Bat book after Batman and Robin. Oh, and Siege #2 was terrible. Fucking hate the Sentry.

[georox]

I'm loving the GI Joe: Origins series. Picked up the Baroness issue this weekend, along with the GI Joe: Cobra #1. Wishing I had a local shop so I could actually keep up with reading series instead of randomly getting issues/back issues.

[neocisco]

I might have to check them out too. My local comic store just went out of business and there are not that many comic retailers around me in Ga.

Where are you in GA?

[Rodimus]

My problem with Seige is the incident that sparked it. Oddly enough the Chicago incident (killing over 2,000 people) doesn't seem to be carrying as much weight as the Stamford incident (which killed around 600).

I love the fact that the Holy Trinity of the Avengers are getting back together, but I must admit I was expecting a bit more.

[Rei no Otaku]

My problem with Seige is the incident that sparked it. Oddly enough the Chicago incident (killing over 2,000 people) doesn't seem to be carrying as much weight as the Stamford incident (which killed around 600).

I love the fact that the Holy Trinity of the Avengers are getting back together, but I must admit I was expecting a bit more.
The incident was completely pointless.

[bardockkun]

The incident was completely pointless.
Sounds like a Marvel crossover! Scarlet Witch's out of no where PMS mood swing is in good company!

[Rodimus]

I see the point to it, but it wasn't fleshed out very well. I think the problem is the crappy Fronline/Embedded series that's following along with Seige. The Civil War: Frontline was quite good and it complimented the Civil War series very well. But this Seige Embedded is just another: Normal Man Ben Urich Adventures comic.

[ppself]

Where are you in GA?

I am in the Cumming area.

It was comic crusade that shut down.

I have been to galatix comics in Buford, but it wasn't a too inviting store. So i won't go back.

Any locations peeps might know of, could be helpful. I might either find a location that is in Atlanta and just go every few weeks instead of every week or check into online distribution.

Just got a paperback called The Mice Templar since comic crusade has everything 50% off. Pretty cool concept and story, i will have to get the rest of the collection now.

[manthing]

The incident was completely pointless.

I'm offended that the fat man, Volstagg was the cause of the incident.

Plus, I'm so fucking sick of Iron Patriot and Sentry.

[Rei no Otaku]

I see the point to it, but it wasn't fleshed out very well. I think the problem is the crappy Fronline/Embedded series that's following along with Seige. The Civil War: Frontline was quite good and it complimented the Civil War series very well. But this Seige Embedded is just another: Normal Man Ben Urich Adventures comic.
So Osborn manufactured this incident so he would be allowed to invade Asgard, correct? Incident occurs, he goes to invade and the government says no. Osborn says "fuck you" and invades anyway. So what was the point?

[manthing]

Osburn is an insane idiot?

[Rei no Otaku]

True, but that feels like a cheap excuse for bad writing.

[ppself]

So Osborn manufactured this incident so he would be allowed to invade Asgard, correct? Incident occurs, he goes to invade and the government says no. Osborn says "fuck you" and invades anyway. So what was the point?

Loki is a major player in all of this, he basically convinced Osborne to do what he is doing now. That, and Osborne is finally braeking down mentally.

[neocisco]

I am in the Cumming area.

It was comic crusade that shut down.

I have been to galatix comics in Buford, but it wasn't a too inviting store. So i won't go back.

Any locations peeps might know of, could be helpful. I might either find a location that is in Atlanta and just go every few weeks instead of every week or check into online distribution.

Just got a paperback called The Mice Templar since comic crusade has everything 50% off. Pretty cool concept and story, i will have to get the rest of the collection now.

If you're in the Kennesaw area you should definitely check out Dr. No's Comics & Games. A huge selection of comics and probably the biggest section of TPB's you've ever seen. I've been going there for years.

http://www.drnos.com/directions.html

[Rodimus]

So Osborn manufactured this incident so he would be allowed to invade Asgard, correct? Incident occurs, he goes to invade and the government says no. Osborn says "fuck you" and invades anyway. So what was the point?

It's pretty clear from the issue #1 cover, the point is to get the Avengers back together. But the stadium incident & Caps resurrection are being dealt with on the same severity as Speedball getting his cat back. But be honest, it's not a terrible read or else you wouldn't bother with issue #2. It has been underwhelming, but I will say it's more engaging than Secret Invasion.

I really like Coipel's art and his run on the Thor series. In fact I might be a bit favorable towards Siege for the fact that Thor is my #1 favorite comic book hero.

[ppself]

If you're in the Kennesaw area you should definitely check out Dr. No's Comics & Games. A huge selection of comics and probably the biggest section of TPB's you've ever seen. I've been going there for years.

http://www.drnos.com/directions.html


Cool, thanks for the info.

I work in Alpharetta so it doesn't seem as far to run by their after work or something.

I rather shop at a comic store that others recommend, than just show up at some random place.

[Rei no Otaku]

But be honest, it's not a terrible read or else you wouldn't bother with issue #2.
That's really not a good example to use with me lol. As I mentioned in the GGT, I play/read/watch things I don't like all the time. I do so that I can discuss them and actually know what I'm talking about. I'll admit that it's not utterly horrible. I mean it's definitely no Countdown, but it's also not very good either.

[HuBu]

I'm offended that the fat man, Volstagg was the cause of the incident.

Plus, I'm so fucking sick of Iron Patriot and Sentry.

The Sentry is going to get so fucked up by Phobas for killing Ares.

[ppself]

The Sentry is going to get so fucked up by Phobas for killing Ares.

I was wondering what they were going to do about that.

I mean, can you even kill a god? Ares is going to pop right back lol in Sentry's face and then continue fighting.

I would like some else besides hulk take Sentry down, since they already did that for WWH. They better not get some psychic to "brain attack" Sentry and call it a day.

[Rodimus]

I play/read/watch things I don't like all the time.

Sounds expensive. But I understand, once I start a book I almost always finish it regardless. The most recent offender is Ultimatum. Fucking terrible, but I guess I wanted to see just how terrible it would get.

[lokizz]

I was wondering what they were going to do about that.

I mean, can you even kill a god? Ares is going to pop right back lol in Sentry's face and then continue fighting.

I would like some else besides hulk take Sentry down, since they already did that for WWH. They better not get some psychic to "brain attack" Sentry and call it a day.


im betting thats some kind of setup to have his kid step up and kick some ass. his son almost beat him when they fought so its not hard to believe with that sword that he could kill or beat sentry.

[ppself]

im betting thats some kind of setup to have his kid step up and kick some ass. his son almost beat him when they fought so its not hard to believe with that sword that he could kill or beat sentry.

I think you pretty much nailed it.

Ares son, god of fear against Sentry. A schizophrenic head case with Void issues :P

[JolietJake]

I had no idea that Wolverine had a son Daken, or about Romulus. I've been out of the loop too long.

Sounds stupid though, are they saying that most of the feral type mutants evolved from dogs? Romoulus is described as a lupine and looks like a werewolf.

[ppself]

I had no idea that Wolverine had a son Daken, or about Romulus. I've been out of the loop too long.

Sounds stupid though, are they saying that most of the feral type mutants evolved from dogs? Romoulus is described as a lupine and looks like a werewolf.

Well, now wolverine has a son in Ultimate X. But yea Daken is a chud, and a dumb idea.

[JolietJake]

Yeah what about this guy? Are they just pretending Daken doesn't exist? And what about X-23? She still around?

[lokizz]

Yeah what about this guy? Are they just pretending Daken doesn't exist? And what about X-23? She still around?

shes a member of xforce now. and theyre now kinda basically the blackops/mercenary arm of the xmen.

[Rodimus]

Daken is a weird character. He's got daddy issues which makes him a little bitch. Also I think he's bisexual. He's always making sexual comments towards Bullseye to get under his skin, but I think there some truth to it. I find him to be an interesting character, but certainly not a favorite.

[lokizz]

Daken is a weird character. He's got daddy issues which makes him a little bitch. Also I think he's bisexual. He's always making sexual comments towards Bullseye to get under his skin, but I think there some truth to it. I find him to be an interesting character, but certainly not a favorite.


yeah ive noticed that he said the same kind of shit to the thing when he broke into the FF head quarters. i know hes supposed to be into playing mind games but he just comes off like someone deflecting his own insecurities onto others.

[Rodimus]

He can also manipulate people easy cause he has some kind of pheromone power (similar to Spider-Woman.) Daken's power works on both sexes, in fact I think he uses it in his fight with The Thing. No one knows he has this power since he's never disclosed that info to anyone, maybe except Romulas.

He's not a terrible character. But I will say I hate his stpid looking hair cut.

[JolietJake]

I'd like to know who thought it was a good idea to basically give wolverine a family. Dude was fine as a loner. Now we've got all of these kids/clones running around.

[Rodimus]

X-23 was actually first introduced in the X-Men Evolution cartoon series, then brought over to the comic book.

[lokizz]

I'd like to know who thought it was a good idea to basically give wolverine a family. Dude was fine as a loner. Now we've got all of these kids/clones running around.

well now hes got a gf so i wonder how long till the kids meet her lol.

[JolietJake]

Yeah i remember her from that show, the show sucked, don't know why they thought she should be in the comics.

[Rei no Otaku]

I actually like X-23. Like her a lot more than Wolverine anyway.

[lokizz]

btw wtf happened to sabretooth ? i thought he was dead but after reading weapon x wolverine made it seem like he was still alive.

[Rodimus]

I like X-23 too, and I don't think Daken is all that bad, but he's not as awesome as Rocket Raccoon.

btw wtf happened to sabretooth ? i thought he was dead but after reading weapon x wolverine made it seem like he was still alive.

I'm pretty sure he's still dead. I haven't read the Weapon X Wolverine series yet but does it take place in during the current storyline?

[neocisco]

Wolverine cut off Sabretooth's head but it's comics so no one ever--EVER--stays dead. One of my biggest complaints about the medium.

[Rodimus]

- Daken will eventually kill Wolverine with the Muramasa blade
- All his pals get together and reverse the effects of the blade. Wolvrine lives
- In turn Sabretooth comes back to life

I don't mind characters returning from the dead, but have it make as much sense as possible. For example: someone like Thanos I can see returning, his gf is Death so he gets a free pass. But the worst possible example: When Aunt May died it was revealed that she was actually a "genetically-altered actress" who only impersonated the real May while she was held captive. I wish comics would get beyond this kind of lazy writing.

[JolietJake]

I was reading about the Muramasa blade and don't understand something. If the metal was bonded to his claws, wouldn't Daken also lose his healing ability?

Or it was really a Skrull masquerading as the character when they were "killed".

[Rodimus]

The way the blade works is it doesn't nullify the entire healing ability, just what the sword itself cuts. Also the blade is infused into his middle blade which he rarely uses.

[ppself]

Wait, so Wolverine has a girlfriend? Who? I have been reading pretty much all xtitles and i haven't seen much of a thing happening. Unless Jean Grey came back within the week i haven't bought any comics yet. lol, or wait until Hope shows up at the Xmansion. She will be Wolvies new GF.

And how did Sabertooth get resurrected?

[Rei no Otaku]

Wait, so Wolverine has a girlfriend? Who? I have been reading pretty much all xtitles and i haven't seen much of a thing happening. Unless Jean Grey came back within the week i haven't bought any comics yet. lol, or wait until Hope shows up at the Xmansion. She will be Wolvies new GF.

And how did Sabertooth get resurrected?
I haven't seen mention of a girlfriend either, and I've been buying the X titles for a long time. Unless it happened in one of the Wolverine specific books since I don't buy those. As I mentioned earlier, I don't like the character.

Sabertooth is still dead.

[lokizz]

Wait, so Wolverine has a girlfriend? Who? I have been reading pretty much all xtitles and i haven't seen much of a thing happening. Unless Jean Grey came back within the week i haven't bought any comics yet. lol, or wait until Hope shows up at the Xmansion. She will be Wolvies new GF.

And how did Sabertooth get resurrected?

check the most recent weapon x comic( Wolverine Weapon X 10). shes a reporter and i believe mexican/black mix. i think its cool theyre adding her into the mix of his life granted he will outlive her but he deserves so be happy.

[bardockkun]

check the most recent weapon x comic( Wolverine Weapon X 10). shes a reporter and i believe mexican/black mix. i think its cool theyre adding her into the mix of his life granted he will outlive her but he deserves so be happy.
Until she gets killed and is reason #638094380 why Wolverine goes on a berserker barrage. Wolverine's not meant to have a girlfriend, let's be honest here.

[Rei no Otaku]

Until she gets killed and is reason #638094380 why Wolverine goes on a berserker barrage. Wolverine's not meant to have a girlfriend, let's be honest here.
:rofl:

[lokizz]

Until she gets killed and is reason #638094380 why Wolverine goes on a berserker barrage. Wolverine's not meant to have a girlfriend, let's be honest here.


i dont doubt she will get killed at some point which is something he mentioned to her but i could be interesting to see how the relationship develops considering mystique is going to enter in the next edition. on top of that during the comic he goes around to see diff women hes had/has relationships or is close with to ask their opinion of it.