View Full Version : Next Gen consoles with disc changers?
coolcps
08-19-2004, 05:51 PM
Does anyone else think that this would be cool? I have always wished that like playstation had something like a 3 disc changer because I always end up playing a few games and switching throughout them. Also I think it would be cool to have a console with a remote for power and cool things like that. What do you guys think about disc changers in consoles?
kaji7p56
08-19-2004, 05:55 PM
That would be cool but it needs a 6 disc changer for music, dvds, and games.
LinkinPrime
08-19-2004, 05:59 PM
I never really thought about it, it doesnt bother me to switch discs.
SneakyPenguin
08-19-2004, 06:01 PM
I would like that, and I never saw why it was such a problem to implement.
Dok Diamond
08-19-2004, 06:04 PM
unless if its gonna cost me more i really dont care, im not that lazy.
thegamer4787
08-19-2004, 06:04 PM
Yes, I thought of this idea a while ago, however, I don't usually leave disks in my consoles, namely xbox, anyway.
epobirs
08-19-2004, 06:12 PM
How many multi-DVD games are out there on consoles? Any?
This is an idea that would survive about two minutes in a design meeting. Adds significant cost but is meaningless to majority of users. DOA.
Someone might offer a high-end model, like Panasonic's GameCube compatible DVD player but this is simply never going to happen for the base unit 95% of the console's buyers will choose.
Sartori
08-19-2004, 06:16 PM
No. Just like I really don't want to pay extra for a DVD Drive.
Or a hard drive.
Or whatever else Sony and or Microsoft want to jam in to that machine to suck my dollar.
coolsteel
08-19-2004, 06:43 PM
Switching disc never bothered me so jacking up the cost for something I wouldn't use wouldn't fly with me.
redgopher
08-19-2004, 06:51 PM
No. Just like I really don't want to pay extra for a DVD Drive.
Or a hard drive.
Or whatever else Sony and or Microsoft want to jam in to that machine to suck my dollar.
So you'd rather buy memory card after memory card?
Back on topic, the disc changers will never happen. It would make the systems too big, too expensive. And who the hell really needs a disc changer? You got to be fucking lazy (or a DJ) to really need one.
Sartori
08-19-2004, 06:54 PM
No. Just like I really don't want to pay extra for a DVD Drive.
Or a hard drive.
Or whatever else Sony and or Microsoft want to jam in to that machine to suck my dollar.
So you'd rather buy memory card after memory card?
Back on topic, the disc changers will never happen. It would make the systems too big, too expensive. And who the hell really needs a disc changer? You got to be shaq-fuing lazy (or a DJ) to really need one.
Let's see.. Hard drive costs 100 dollars...
Memory card two pack cost me 30.... don't ever need more than that (I'd only ever need one if I didn't enjoy keeping all my saves)... hmm.. memory cards are portable storage medium.. they don't promote lazy developers/excuses. . .
I'd say memory cards win.
epobirs
08-19-2004, 06:55 PM
I've got HDLoader and a 160 GB drive for my PS2. I could do a similar upgrade to my Xbox if I chose. Who needs a disc changer?
PsyClerk
08-19-2004, 06:59 PM
If the hard drive comes with the console, everyone wins.
On topic, disc changer sounds like a gimmick that would increase costs. No thanks.
No.
- Don't wanna pay more for something that isn't hard to do.
- It's one more thing that can break
redgopher
08-19-2004, 07:06 PM
No. Just like I really don't want to pay extra for a DVD Drive.
Or a hard drive.
Or whatever else Sony and or Microsoft want to jam in to that machine to suck my dollar.
So you'd rather buy memory card after memory card?
Back on topic, the disc changers will never happen. It would make the systems too big, too expensive. And who the hell really needs a disc changer? You got to be shaq-fuing lazy (or a DJ) to really need one.
Let's see.. Hard drive costs 100 dollars...
Memory card two pack cost me 30.... don't ever need more than that (I'd only ever need one if I didn't enjoy keeping all my saves)... hmm.. memory cards are portable storage medium.. they don't promote lazy developers/excuses. . .
I'd say memory cards win.
Then again, I *did* buy my friend's FFXI w/ HDD for $30.
Sartori
08-19-2004, 07:09 PM
No. Just like I really don't want to pay extra for a DVD Drive.
Or a hard drive.
Or whatever else Sony and or Microsoft want to jam in to that machine to suck my dollar.
So you'd rather buy memory card after memory card?
Back on topic, the disc changers will never happen. It would make the systems too big, too expensive. And who the hell really needs a disc changer? You got to be shaq-fuing lazy (or a DJ) to really need one.
Let's see.. Hard drive costs 100 dollars...
Memory card two pack cost me 30.... don't ever need more than that (I'd only ever need one if I didn't enjoy keeping all my saves)... hmm.. memory cards are portable storage medium.. they don't promote lazy developers/excuses. . .
I'd say memory cards win.
Then again, I *did* buy my friend's FFXI w/ HDD for $30.
The price really isn't my major deterrent.
Sarang01
08-19-2004, 08:06 PM
I'm with Gopher here on the HDD and you're overpricing the HDD. Chances are a HDD might only add $50 or LESS to the console's cost. Look I feel you on the lazy developer's thing but with PC they'll continue to do it whether people like it or not.
It's the question if you find paying a most likely ONE time fee of $50 for a HDD as part of the system or buy multiple memory cards to cover it. I mean speaking of memory cards I've managed to fill I have almost filled my GC 256 and I think I've filled one of my PS2 memory cards and NO I don't own Madden.
In fact one of the BIG reasons whenever a game is on multiple systems that I buy the XBox version is for the saving on the HDD or maybe even the Live features. Also reduced load time can be nice.
Btw Sartori regardless of what you say there ARE instances where developers were lazy or forgot to do stuff resulting in a game taking increased save space, Smackdown anyone? That takes up HALF of a PS2 memory card.
epobirs
08-19-2004, 08:12 PM
The hard drive has made a major contribution to the Xbox's attractiveness for those consumers who understand what it's doing. The failure on Microsoft's part is in not better publicising the difference and not pushing developers to exploit it further.
This goes hand in hand with my belief that MS also made a mistake in not encouraging more ports from the PC gaming realm. A lot of us pass up PC games because of the sheer hassle when compared to console use. There are a lot of PC ports that would only be viable on the Xbox due to the unavoidably large save files they create. For instance, Diablo 2 and its expansions, a huge PC hit, have no console version. Even at this late date I think Diablo 2 could do a lot of business on Xbox if done right.
Sartori
08-19-2004, 08:24 PM
I'm with Gopher here on the HDD and you're overpricing the HDD. Chances are a HDD might only add $50 or LESS to the console's cost. Look I feel you on the lazy developer's thing but with PC they'll continue to do it whether people like it or not.
It'll happen on your "console" soon enough. I see it coming and I don't like it. I don't PC game for several reasons - that's one of them.
It's the question if you find paying a most likely ONE time fee of $50 for a HDD as part of the system or buy multiple memory cards to cover it. .
Again - the price isn't what concerns me. Furthermore, I was just tossing out Sony's number becasue --- see sentence one.
Kaijufan
08-19-2004, 08:28 PM
I dont really like the idea of a disk changer. However I do want a hard drive in the next gen systems.
Sheik Rattle Enroll
08-19-2004, 08:31 PM
Having a disc changer would just increase cost and size and decrease reliability for a small convenience factor.
Fourth Stooge
08-19-2004, 10:06 PM
I would like the next consoles to be component-width to match the rest of my AV equipment. About 17 1/2 inches. I just don't understand why people claim the Xbox is too large. I wish it was bigger.
I would buy the changer, but it's not something I see a great need for.
Spacepest
08-20-2004, 10:09 PM
I think the idea of a multi-disc changer in game console is stupid. Instead of just one disc being stuck in my console when it breaks down, I will have THREE or more discs stuck in them. No thanks.