Is Catholicism the mainstream form of Satanism?

[GameDude]

Let's face it, "The Church" has been corrupt since the beginning. They control their worshippers and molest children and try to hide it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but do people actually pay priests to get their loved ones out of "purgatory?"

And this is just messed up:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040821/1013037.asp

Isn't this whole thing about symbolism? Who cares what it's made out of. It's the genuity that's important. What's this all about? Control.


This isn't a bash to all Christians, but I just really can't stand Catholics.

[Mr. Anderson]

There are always extremists, pervets, and rougues. In organized religion, even if its some more than others. I am Christian, not Catholic, and I agree, Catholics can be more controversial than other relgions and such, but that doesn't include every Catholic.

[WarrenGekko]

Let's face it, "The Church" has been corrupt since the beginning. They control their worshippers and molest children and try to hide it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but do people actually pay priests to get their loved ones out of "purgatory?"

And this is just messed up:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040821/1013037.asp

Isn't this whole thing about symbolism? Who cares what it's made out of. It's the genuity that's important. What's this all about? Control.


This isn't a bash to all Christians, but I just really can't stand Catholics.


Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

[GameDude]

Let's face it, "The Church" has been corrupt since the beginning. They control their worshippers and molest children and try to hide it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but do people actually pay priests to get their loved ones out of "purgatory?"

And this is just messed up:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040821/1013037.asp

Isn't this whole thing about symbolism? Who cares what it's made out of. It's the genuity that's important. What's this all about? Control.


This isn't a bash to all Christians, but I just really can't stand Catholics.


Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

Do it then. Name any religion and show me how it's as corrupted as Catholicism.

[Lootr2Core]

Read 'monkey on a stick' that will get your eyes open to a whole new level of religious corruption.

Hare' Krisna before their 'reforms'

[eldad9]

Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

How about atheists?

[CaseyRyback]

when you are the main religion for well over 1000 years, there are going to be some problems that emerge.

and we could go through what are all the negatives of the different religons, but it would just turn into a flame war.

[WarrenGekko]

Let's face it, "The Church" has been corrupt since the beginning. They control their worshippers and molest children and try to hide it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but do people actually pay priests to get their loved ones out of "purgatory?"

And this is just messed up:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040821/1013037.asp

Isn't this whole thing about symbolism? Who cares what it's made out of. It's the genuity that's important. What's this all about? Control.


This isn't a bash to all Christians, but I just really can't stand Catholics.


Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

Do it then. Name any religion and show me how it's as corrupted as Catholicism.

I really don't need to. Every organized religion has its skeletons. I saw a lot of corruption of religion when I lived overseas. To get into a debate over this would be a waste of time because nothing would get solved. You would basically be telling me how much you can't stand Catholics because of this and that and I don't want to hear it. And, I don't want to tell you that I can find the same examples you would tell me about Catholics in every religion/

[eldad9]

when you are the main religion for well over 1000 years, there are going to be some problems that emerge.

The main religion?

[WarrenGekko]

Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

How about atheists?

That's true but I never considered atheists a religion.

[Lootr2Core]

Let's face it, "The Church" has been corrupt since the beginning. They control their worshippers and molest children and try to hide it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but do people actually pay priests to get their loved ones out of "purgatory?"

And this is just messed up:

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040821/1013037.asp

Isn't this whole thing about symbolism? Who cares what it's made out of. It's the genuity that's important. What's this all about? Control.


This isn't a bash to all Christians, but I just really can't stand Catholics.

I read (and was disturbed) by that story as well but it isn't exacly corruption, they are wrong in my theology, but that doesn't mean they are corrupt.

Martin Luther was onto something about the need for reforming the church, and the church is in constant need of reform.

[eldad9]

Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

How about atheists?

That's true but I never considered atheists a religion.

So in conclusion, we can rag on all religions but not about the lack of religion.

[Lootr2Core]

t. And, I don't want to tell you that I can find the same examples you would tell me about Catholics in every religion/[/quote]

examples of Catholics in every religion???? what?

please correct the typo cause that just doesn't make anysense.

[WarrenGekko]

Whatever dude. We can rag on all religions for the same thing. There's no reason to hate Catholics. I sure we can say the same thing about whatever religion you follow

How about atheists?

That's true but I never considered atheists a religion.

So in conclusion, we can rag on all religions but not about the lack of religion.

That was not what I was concluding. I was concluding that I can find corruption in every religion and that I wouldn't consider athiests a religion.

[WarrenGekko]

t. And, I don't want to tell you that I can find the same examples you would tell me about Catholics in every religion/

examples of Catholics in every religion???? what?

please correct the typo cause that just doesn't make anysense.[/quote]

Ok. Basically, I am saying that any example that would be raised as corruption in the Catholic chuch can be found in any religion.

[jputahraptor]

Wow ignorance is bliss gamedude. I do not want to start a flaming war but your sheer stupidity stuns me. I don't see Catholics starting a holy war and blowing themselves up. I guess you'll overlook the good deeds and miracles and take one incident out of proportion. I'll sure when you grow up and mature you'll change your mind, then or right before you die.

[jeffreyjrose]

Wow ignorance is bliss gamedude. I do not want to start a flaming war but your sheer stupidity stuns me. I don't see Catholics starting a holy war and blowing themselves up. I guess you'll overlook the good deeds and miracles and take one incident out of proportion. I'll sure when you grow up and mature you'll change your mind, then or right before you die.

Great point.

And I move to have this LOCK'D because this thread will most likely A)accomplish nothing and B)incite needless flaming, arguing, front-page cluttering, etc.

[CaseyRyback]

when you are the main religion for well over 1000 years, there are going to be some problems that emerge.

The main religion?

in cristianity I mean. All forms of Christianity come from it.

[eldad9]

That was not what I was concluding. I was concluding that I can find corruption in every religion and that I wouldn't consider athiests a religion.

Of course atheism is not a religion; it's the lack of religion. But the corruption of every religion is certainly an argument in its favor.

[WarrenGekko]

That was not what I was concluding. I was concluding that I can find corruption in every religion and that I wouldn't consider athiests a religion.

Of course atheism is not a religion; it's the lack of religion. But the corruption of every religion is certainly an argument in its favor.

I am not trying to argue in it favor. I am leaving athiesism out of this discussion.

[evilpenguin9000]

Umm the Catholics started several "Holy Wars"...they were called the Crusades. Look it up.

Organized religion is pretty much a bad thing in my opinion because when one group of people all decide they believe the same thing, they start to try and convince other people they are right. That ends up with them either excluding people or forcing them to believe one way or another.

That said I don't think the Catholics are any worse than any other organized religion. Although I do frown on the whole sex negative culture inherent in most western religions.

[Lootr2Core]

pssst. warrenGekko.. you can go and edit your original post..(I have to do it all the time..((just did it about 3 min ago with my stupid marine mammal error)) better to correct the original post)

[GameDude]

Wow ignorance is bliss gamedude. I do not want to start a flaming war but your sheer stupidity stuns me. I don't see Catholics starting a holy war and blowing themselves up. I guess you'll overlook the good deeds and miracles and take one incident out of proportion. I'll sure when you grow up and mature you'll change your mind, then or right before you die.


One incident? What about the Crusades? Hundreds if not thousands of children have been and are still being molested by Catholic priests, but, guess what, they don't want us to know because it might hurt "their" religion.

I'm not saying that all Catholics are evil. However, I do believe "The Church" as a whole is evil.

[Lootr2Core]

Gamedude seems to be trolling a bit.. 2 posts (that I saw) flaming Catholics and then YELLOW people!!!

[eldad9]

Wow ignorance is bliss gamedude. I do not want to start a flaming war but your sheer stupidity stuns me. I don't see Catholics starting a holy war and blowing themselves up. I guess you'll overlook the good deeds and miracles and take one incident out of proportion. I'll sure when you grow up and mature you'll change your mind, then or right before you die.

Sorry, but I can't help quoting Asimov here:

Isaac Asimov, "On Religiosity", Free Inquiry magazine: "Although the time of death is approaching me, I am not afraid of dying and going to Hell or (what would be considerably worse) going to the popularized version of Heaven. I expect death to be nothingness and, for removing me from all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism."

But yes, let's have this thread lock'd.

[WarrenGekko]

pssst. warrenGekko.. you can go and edit your original post..(I have to do it all the time..((just did it about 3 min ago with my stupid marine mammal error)) better to correct the original post)

Good call. Totally forgot about that.

[GameDude]

Gamedude seems to be trolling a bit.. 2 posts (that I saw) flaming Catholics and then YELLOW people!!!

No, not trolling. I'm trying to get somewhat an intelligent discussion going, but so far it's more of "U R stupit gamedude!11"

[CaseyRyback]

Wow ignorance is bliss gamedude. I do not want to start a flaming war but your sheer stupidity stuns me. I don't see Catholics starting a holy war and blowing themselves up. I guess you'll overlook the good deeds and miracles and take one incident out of proportion. I'll sure when you grow up and mature you'll change your mind, then or right before you die.

Sorry, but I can't help quoting Asimov here:

Isaac Asimov, "On Religiosity", Free Inquiry magazine: "Although the time of death is approaching me, I am not afraid of dying and going to Hell or (what would be considerably worse) going to the popularized version of Heaven. I expect death to be nothingness and, for removing me from all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism."

But yes, let's have this thread lock'd.

I agree and will lock it. All this thread can do is piss people off and offend them.