A cornered Fox is more DANGEROUS than a Jackal! GGT #55

[Chacrana]

There are still way too few games on the PStriple... I think the only stuff I've got that's worth hanging onto is NG Sigma and Ridge Racer 7 (which is great, despite the Kaz Hirai factor)... since MGS4 makes 3 good games worth having on the PS3 for me, and the system's been out for like 2 years... that's pathetic.

But MGS4.... soooo important.

Anyone know just how many people were line in NYC?

[darthbudge]

Resistance
Warhawk
Uncharted
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MGS4

All jump to mind as good exclusive PS3 games. I think that by this time next year there will be alot more good games out for it.

[blueshinra]

Anyone know just how many people were line in NYC?
I didn't go, but Game|Life reports (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/06/new-york----at.html) that the line stretched all the way to 6th Ave (from Broadway, which intersects with 7th Ave. around that point). Midtown Manhattan blocks are huge, so maybe... 300-400 people? It would be more if it curved around the block, but that wasn't made clear. I'm sure there's a better estimate elsewhere.

[MarkMan]

Someone mentioned on NeoGAF or here, I forget, upwards of almost 700 people?

Someone posted pics of his signed MGS4 LE 40 GB Gunmetal PS3 O_O!

I'm at work now. This sucks.

I got Friday off though. We're going to have a good time you and I, Snake... a good time.

[Chacrana]

Resistance
Warhawk
Uncharted
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MGS4

All jump to mind as good exclusive PS3 games. I think that by this time next year there will be alot more good games out for it.

Resistance was soooo boring. It was solid, but after playing FEAR, I remember it being untolarbly bland.

Warhawk is pretty damn boring too... glad I didn't buy that.

Uncharted... shooting mechanics killed it completely. Pretty, though.

[daroga]

I want to try the new Ratchet for PS3 sometime. That needs a price drop.

[The Mana Knight]

I heard the GS at my Mall (1 out of 5 locations in my area) had over 300 preorders for MGS4. The GS I'm picking mine up at had over 200. There might have been around 1k preorders on MGS4, just in my area alone, which is quite impressions (that's like 0.5% of my town).

I'm really excited, but cannot go until close to around 2pm since I cannot get a ride until then. Then I won't be able to go home and play it until 4pm at the latest, since I have to make other stops.

[MarkMan]

That is quite 'impressions' indeed.... just curious, what difficulty are you gonna play it on TMK?

I wanted to play more, but I'm at work now :(

Thats why I reserve at GameStop stores with no traffic at all... I hate waiting in lines on weekdays.

[Midnite]

I'm going to have to wait till 10PM tonight to play MGS4 and if I can't then it will be Saturday before I get a chance.

[The Mana Knight]

That is quite 'impressions' indeed.... just curious, what difficulty are you gonna play it on TMK?

I wanted to play more, but I'm at work now :(

Thats why I reserve at GameStop stores with no traffic at all... I hate waiting in lines on weekdays.Well, the slowest GS locations I'm thinking, were over 30 minutes out of my way (there's one GS located in pretty much a rural area, that doesn't get much business, especially since there's another location down the street closer to neighborhoods. One was GS while one was EB, but the merger changed it).

I will play on the easiest difficulty most likely. :lol:

It wouldn't surprise me the location at my mall has a ton of preorders. They have HUGE MGS4 posters at the front entrance (the store has always been located in a very high traffic area) and lots of other MGS4 stuff heavily exposed.

[JEKKI]

store doesnt open for another hour -_-...

gonna leave in like 15 minutes, get breakfast, pick up my LE's

then I'm off to Stanford/Oakland to hang out for the rest of day...

cant play MGS til sunday or monday -_-

[dmaul1114]

Checked out the Ninja Gaiden 2 demo last night per daroga's reccomendation the other day.

I was pretty impressed. I'm not a giant action game fan, but this was pretty enjoyable. Lots of moves with the different weapons etc. I liked the moon staff thing the best for my initial brief play through.

Only concern would be difficulty, as I know the series has a reputation for being tough as nails and I don't have patience for hard games these days. I didn't struggle at all with the demo, so maybe I'd be ok playing on that easier difficulty setting for the whole game.

At any rate, I definitely want to give the full game a go sometime. Not for $60 though. I'll wait for it to go on sale for at least $40 or to be able to get in on goozex. No rush as I have a couple games on the shelf I need to get to, and very little time for gaming this summer anyway.

[suko_32]

I can't get MGS4 till around 5 PM and it may be sold out by then. I'm pretty angry at myself so I'll just play Portable Ops till then :-(

[kainzero]

the disgaea 3 trailer looks pretty hot.

for some reason i wasn't too big a fan of disgaea 2. the story was fun but the actual gameplay system seemed barely improved over disgaea 1... i did like all the extra side stuff though.

[blueshinra]

I wasn't too crazy about Disgaea 2's story, but I did like the gameplay improvements, especially the secret rooms in the Item World and all the changes made to the Dark Assembly.

Disgaea 3's the only PS3 game I'm interested in right now. We ended up getting a 360 instead, though :/

[SpikeJonez]

Who here bought a ps3 for mgs4?

[Halo05]

Wahoo, got my LE without any problems. One more final tomorrow and I'm off for a week.

[willardhaven]

I want to play MGS 4 and Ratchet.

I also am looking forward to the Tri-Ace and Tales games on the Xbox 360.

I either have to miss out on some games or buy both consoles and spend around 1,000 in hardware.

lame.

[daroga]

dmaul: the lowest setting in NG2 isn't a pushover, but it's not what I would call "hard" either... until the final boss when you're an idiot like me and use all your healing items before you get there. ;)

GGT, I need help! My wife just green lighted a new TV or a projector for our new house. I'm not sure the room it'll be in is big enough to use a projector well, but I want to hear recommendations on TVs or projectors. My budget is probably sub $1200 for the display.

[MarkMan]

GGT (Gundam Gaming Team)! - http://www.ncsx.com/2008/060908/gundam_cross_drive_le.htm

HOT, ain't it? NCS just put that shit on clearance...

[Dark Slayer120]

Who here bought a ps3 for mgs4?

Someone at my GS did last night at the midnight sale. It was funny too because he came out carrying the PS3 and MGS4, while wearing a X360 lanyard and hat and someone said" Hey that ain't no 360!" He kinda laughed and replied I hate the PS3, but I want to play MGS4. I have a decent amount of good games for the PS3, I don't know why all the hate and when people say it doesn't have enough good games. It does not have enough good exclusives, I'll agree with that but some multi platform games are even better on the PS3. *Does not want to turn this into a fan boy flame war again*

Any way played a little more of MGS4, and I am finally getting used to the controls, which makes me like the game a lot more. Wtf is square for though? I think the controls take some time to get used to, and that is what was "off" to me last night. Anyway to those who got it, enjoying it thus far? Impressions of it? Graphics are fucking gorgeous, Story seems decent thus far, game play is great, once you get the controls down, music is EPIC and awesome like all MGS games. Question, how do you roll while laying on the ground with a gun? I can't seem to figure it out and don't want to read the manual.

[evanft]

I really wish I had gotten in on the Wal-Mart deal.

[Dandeschain]

I've been contemplating buying a PS3 for MGS. I will wait till I find a 60 gig for the right price though.

[gunm]

Picked up my LE at the midnight launch, no problems. GS sold through their meager allocation of MGS4 PS3 bundles as well. I shouldn't have been surprised that the turnout was almost as large as the GTAIV launch, but I kinda was, a little.

The game's visuals blow me away. However, and this is somewhat of an experience/story spoiler: The brief, live-action interludes before the game and in-between stages are extremely weird.

[Dark Slayer120]

Picked up my LE at the midnight launch, no problems. GS sold through their meager allocation of MGS4 PS3 bundles as well. I shouldn't have been surprised that the turnout was almost as large as the GTAIV launch, but I kinda was, a little.

The game's visuals blow me away. However, and this is somewhat of an experience/story spoiler: The brief, live-action interludes before the game and in-between stages are extremely weird.


Yeah, when it first happened I was like wtf, can we just get to the game? It's like in game commercials, especially the first one which is like a game show theme. I find them amusing but very weird.

[SpikeJonez]

i hate all of u that are playing it nao

[refusedchaos]

GGT (Gundam Gaming Team)! - http://www.ncsx.com/2008/060908/gundam_cross_drive_le.htm

HOT, ain't it? NCS just put that shit on clearance...

aww i hate you for posting that...so temping!!!

[The Mana Knight]

I've been contemplating buying a PS3 for MGS. I will wait till I find a 60 gig for the right price though.You'd have to find used though, because it's long gone, will never come back (the 60GB). There's a very good chance the 40GB will have PS2 BC late this year or sometime in 2009 though (SCEJ is looking for people to do PS2 emulation).

[botticus]

I want to play MGS 4 and Ratchet.

I also am looking forward to the Tri-Ace and Tales games on the Xbox 360.

I either have to miss out on some games or buy both consoles and spend around 1,000 in hardware.

lame.I don't look at it as missing out, I look at it as letting the good games age gracefully while I wait. Similar strategy helped me narrow down the entire PS2 library to less than a dozen games, so I figure it will do wonders this generation.

[willardhaven]

Good point, I'm sitting on 75 PS2 games (half of which I won't play).

It's so hard to get rid of games but they are driving me nuts.

I think waiting it out will be great in the end when I can get a console and a couple of games for 300 in a year or two.

[dmaul1114]

dmaul: the lowest setting in NG2 isn't a pushover, but it's not what I would call "hard" either... until the final boss when you're an idiot like me and use all your healing items before you get there. ;)


That sounds reasonable. I don't like absolute pushover games, but I don't want to be throwing my controller through the TV by the middle of the game either.


GGT, I need help! My wife just green lighted a new TV or a projector for our new house. I'm not sure the room it'll be in is big enough to use a projector well, but I want to hear recommendations on TVs or projectors. My budget is probably sub $1200 for the display.

I can only talk TVs since I never looked much into front projetors....

For that price I'd recommend looking into 50" plasmas from Panasonic and see if you can find a deal, or some of the newer LCD rear projection TVs in the 50"+ range from Sony.

I have the Sony 50" e2000 series and love it--they don't make them anymore but the newer lines out have even better pictures. The Panny plasma's had better pictures when I was looking last summer--but I couldn't pass up the Sony at $999.99 vs. $1399.99 for the Panny Plasma.

Many will probably reccomend plain LCD (rather than rear projection) but I'm not a fan as they're still pricey and I don't think there is an affordable 50"+ LCD out there and I wouldn't go smaller than that personally.

But it's all preference. Just head to the local stores and play around (i.e. adjust teh color setting etc.) with different types and brands of TVs and see what you like.

[evanft]

I don't look at it as missing out, I look at it as letting the good games age gracefully while I wait. Similar strategy helped me narrow down the entire PS2 library to less than a dozen games, so I figure it will do wonders this generation.

Or just waiting for them to get cheaper. :bouncy:

[gunm]

GGT, I need help! My wife just green lighted a new TV or a projector for our new house. I'm not sure the room it'll be in is big enough to use a projector well, but I want to hear recommendations on TVs or projectors. My budget is probably sub $1200 for the display.

Hm, $1200 is so broad. I guess it depends on what you want?

Offhand, that will give you a huge selection of 26-42" (and an occasional off-brand 46") plasma or LCDs--I believe mostly 720ps--to choose from.

I think LCDs are a better long term value now, and will continue to be, over plasmas--esp. once LED backlights become more common/mainstream. Lower power requirements and heat output still give them the edge at least, IMO.

Brands I like/have faith in are Sony, Samsung, and Sharp with Sonys being the high end in price (i.e. you'll get less/smaller for the money with Sony).

My main TV is a 46" Sharp AQUOS LCD that does 1080p. Picked it up with "Friends and Family" discount direct from Sharp for $1300, but at the time it was retailing for over $2K.

It's been a little while since I've researched projectors, but $1200 sounds like that rough spot between very good and not good enough as far as features/specs.

For me, I'd rather wait and save a little more to get a higher-end, larger TV or higher-end, better resolution/brighter projector than to try and squeeze something in on budget as it minimizes the "rats, I could've done better" feeling post-purchase.

Edit: forgot to mention DLP and rear-projection LCD TVs. There are many solid, larger-sized DLPs and rear proj LCDs that do 1080p that run about this price. Again, I like the 40"-ish size and up Sonys and Samsungs for these kinds of TVs. Best thing to do would be to test 'em out at your local electronics store to see how you like the PQ. I don't care for the lack of brightness/contrast with the rear-projection LCDs (compared with other types of TVs), and the bulb replacement on DLPs can be scary in terms of price and long-term maintenance, but there's a lot of great-looking ones that fall around $1200.

Good luck...

[nyprimus4]

I have an Xbox 360 and PS3.

I don't like that Nintendo didn't make the jump to HD for this generation. The Nintendo games don't appeal to anymore because they are trying to cater to such a broad audience and it has gotten "too simple" for me. The franchises on the Wii just aren't cutting it for a 17 year old anymore.

360 I have for exclusives (Gears, Halo, etc.), multi-platforms are 99.9% better on 360(I will never buy a sports game for PS3 because that version is usually inferior), and all my friends have 360 so it is more fun to play online.

PS3 I have for exclusives of PlayStation series I have been playing for years and years and I don't want to stop playing them as well as the new IPs. (Tekken, MGS, GTA) (Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Uncharted) and its a blu-ray player.

I like HD.

[gunm]

I played some Commandos 3 and NG2 prior to heading out for the MGS launch last night.

Commandos 3 is pretty much what you'd expect from the old-school, isometric view, run-and-gun shooter but it was still pretty fun. I guess nothing beats running around and blowing shit up, no matter what generation of technology it is.

And I love NG2. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm loving acolyte mode as well. I'm damn rusty on these action games, and I don't expect I'll be getting much better so it's all good with me. Plus, I can always switch difficulties or re-play the game if I need an ego boost ego crush.

[SpikeJonez]

acolyte is 4 noobs.

[Nelo Ice]

all this mgs4 talk makes me want a ps3 and ive never even played an mgs
maybe i should burn my $5 amazon gc on the essentials or somethin

[Azumangaman]

I want to try the new Ratchet for PS3 sometime. That needs a price drop.
A...A PRICE DROP?
Your waiting for a PRICE DROP to buy (my personal) BEST GAME OF 2007?
NONSENSE

I went there...

And I'm playing DBZ; BURST LIMIT
cuz if I'm not getting MGS4....yet.

[whoknows]

Lots of MGS4.

Calling the game amazing is an understatement.

I'm kind of sad that it's out now though, now I can't look forward to it anymore.

[gunm]

Can't wait to play more MGS4 later tonight.

Nelo, if you're not planning to get a PS3 anytime soon, but want to get into MGS, I'd say picking up essentials is not a bad idea as it's a good value with $5 off coupon from amazon (I think it's still $25 there as well).

[Chacrana]

Got my LE and played 4 hours straight. The LE is actually really nice, IMO... box is made of chipboard, which is sturdy, but doesn't get scratched like a tin would. Honestly, it's better than a tin. Now I'm taking this break from the game because I don't want my eyes to esplode.

Impressions:

Holy FUCK.

[Nelo Ice]

Can't wait to play more MGS4 later tonight.

Nelo, if you're not planning to get a PS3 anytime soon, but want to get into MGS, I'd say picking up essentials is not a bad idea as it's a good value with $5 off coupon from amazon (I think it's still $25 there as well).

yeah ive been thinkin about doing it for awhile just that i dont have a ps1 memory card to save for the 1st mgs cuz i wanna play through that 1st

[gunm]

TWEWY is back in stock @ amazon.com.

I admit I was getting a little concerned about the game becoming one of those odd, short-print titles that gets rare/hard-to-find.

Unfortunately, the MSRP is too high for me still, but at least I can feel more comfortable about holding off on it.

Reminds me that FFIV DS is coming out soon, though. :p

[Sleepkyng]

just poppin' in to say that quote from MG:S is fuckin' classic.

[Foo228]

Just started The Darkness and the game is as badass as the God of War games...aside from the main character being named Jackie

Good to hear everyone is having fun with Mgs4...I'd love to know how long average times are to just beat the main story

[Jesus_S_Preston]

TWEWY is back in stock @ amazon.com.

I admit I was getting a little concerned about the game becoming one of those odd, short-print titles that gets rare/hard-to-find.

Unfortunately, the MSRP is too high for me still, but at least I can feel more comfortable about holding off on it.

Reminds me that FFIV DS is coming out soon, though. :p

TWEWY came back in stock at Gamestop's site the other day and I ordered it from there.

Now it's en route to meeeee.

[joe2187]

I've watched all the MGS retrospective movies and there's still one...ALOT of things bothering me, what made Big boss go bad?, what the fuck does Raiden have to do with...ANYTHING, where the hell are all these clones coming from? WHO THE FUCK ARE THE PATRIOTS!?

Goddamn it all, I blame it all on MGS2

[jer7583]

So.......


I has a 80GB PS3 bundle.


Now the question remains.. Do I open it?

I need a HDMI-DVI cable before I can play in HD, anyway. I'm not too excited to use the assy cables that come in the box right away..

How's the BC on the 80GB? can I sell my PS2 slim now? It seems like playstation.com says all my games work, one or two with glitchiness.

[KingBroly]

No one's talking NPD numbers, which just came out.

Highlights
- GTAIV on 360 is #1
- Mario Kart Wii beats Wii Fit for #2
- PS3 hardware > 360 hardware
- Wii destroys children's souls
- 7 of the Top 10 Software games were on a Nintendo platform (3 non were GTA, GTA and Iron Man for PS2)

[Chacrana]

Man, fuck other people. I have Metal Gear Solid 4!


And Jer, open that shit. You know you're going to, eventually. The only reason I wouldn't open it is if there's literally nothing slated for the PS3 that you have interest in... in which case, the $499 or whatever it is is an awful lot for a single game. But it is a really, really, really good game.

[gunm]

Someone mentioned Disgaea 3 earlier, and I just saw the preview of it...ahaaha. It just makes me wonder what Disgaea 4 will have...billion hit combos? Level 9999999? Dual tower castle siege attacks? Rape sim?!?

And all with the same PS2, SNES-looking graphics engine from the original Disgaea. I kid, :) I like Disgaea

[jer7583]

Man, fuck other people. I have Metal Gear Solid 4!


And Jer, open that shit. You know you're going to, eventually. The only reason I wouldn't open it is if there's literally nothing slated for the PS3 that you have interest in... in which case, the $499 or whatever it is is an awful lot for a single game. But it is a really, really, really good game.

alright, I opened it..

Might be nice to play FFXIII..

Good lord how long does it take to update this thing

[refusedchaos]

Good lord how long does it take to update this thing

but the good thing is that it downloads only the nessary things (since mine always stops at 50% or so)

[ighosty]

I got a backlog I need to finish up. Just got Assassin Creeds from Gamefly and played that for about an hour and a half, am in chapter 4 for Ninja Gaiden 2, still need to finish GTA, and I just bought MGS4. Will be getting a good amount of time to game this weekend tho.

[daroga]

Thanks for all the TV suggestions guys. I don't think I'll be getting anything much over 40" as the room just isn't that big that it'll be going in.

This TV seems like a great bang for buck. CNet loves the line (though they only reviewed the 32" from the "entry level")

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN37A450-37-inch-720p-HDTV/dp/B0014176N8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213314607&sr=1-2

I don't think 1080p is a real necessity in a 40" and under screen, and it'll save some scratch.

[The Mana Knight]

Played MGS4 for an hour, excellent so far.

Took a while to play it because I was testing a PlayStation Network card (I'm one of the first online to find one and use it, and so far I'm getting issues). Story is in this thread:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4477394&postcount=63

My story is pending at N4G and it might be on a few other news sites.

EDIT: I was posted
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-156938.aspx

[botticus]

Put the requisite half hour into my free rentals tonight, gotta get them back to BB tomorrow.

Battle of the Bands - surprisingly fun, awesome music. Music player from the main menu is win.

Boom Blox - also surprisingly fun, usually I don't get much playtime out of puzzle games, but I could see myself blowing through the adventure mode in there in a hurry.

Two games for a rainy day!

[StarKnightX]

Someone mentioned Disgaea 3 earlier, and I just saw the preview of it...ahaaha. It just makes me wonder what Disgaea 4 will have...billion hit combos? Level 9999999? Dual tower castle siege attacks? Rape sim?!?

And all with the same PS2, SNES-looking graphics engine from the original Disgaea. I kid, :) I like Disgaea

Speaking of Disgaea , I'm curious as to how the DS port of the first game is gonna turn out. I passed on the original PS2 version and got the PSP version since it was supposed to be better but I really don't wanna re-buy the game again unless it's significantly better , which seems unlikely. I'm also wondering why it's taking them so damn long to announce the seemingly inevitable Disgaea 2 deluxe for the PSP.

And speaking of rentals , I have my copy of spyro : the eternal night for the gba still sitting in it's gamefly envelope unplayed cause I've been trying to finish Phoenix Wright 2 , which hasn't been going well.

[Azumangaman]

I saw 10 people online at once on the PSN today. They were all playing MGS4(SUPERSHOCK).
There are usually 1 or 2 people online.

[gunm]

I think it's mostly a straight port of Afternoon of Darkness, but with a couple new characters and touch screen. There's supposedly some minor new added dialog too.

[The Mana Knight]

I saw 10 people online at once on the PSN today. They were all playing MGS4(SUPERSHOCK).
There are usually 1 or 2 people online.My list normally has an average of 10 people on per night. Right now, it's at around 15-20. I've had those nights with 30 people online at once. Part of the reason my list is good because I spent a LOT of time trying to put together a good list. ;)

[zewone]

...

[suko_32]

Holy crap MGS4 is so omgwtfbbq amazing and stuff. I really like the alternative paths you can take if you feel like it. :whee:

[Krymner]

Well, I was first in line yesterday for the MGS4 PS3 bundle at the midnight opening. There was only about 20 people or so there, so we had a good time. They even made a couple of the employees that wanted the bundle stand in the back of line.

I haven't had a chance to play it much since I'm still up in Kentucky at my parent's house, but I played a bit of my brother's (he got a bundle too). Wow. Cannot fucking wait to get this back home and hook it up.

[Chacrana]

My gamestop prolly still has lotsa copies of the LE... they had like 8-10 when I got there this morning, and I was the only person waiting for the store to open.

Everyone else is a nub 8-)

[pete5883]

I don't think I like the Solid Eye.

There's a guy far away - I want to know if I should shoot him or not.
Sometimes I see small test, sometimes I see nothing.
If I do see the small text, I have to figure out which side Militia is on.
If he is militia, will he raise an alarm if he sees me, or will he not care?
Arg.

[zewone]

I don't think I like the Solid Eye.

There's a guy far away - I want to know if I should shoot him or not.
Sometimes I see small test, sometimes I see nothing.
If I do see the small text, I have to figure out which side Militia is on.
If he is militia, will he raise an alarm if he sees me, or will he not care?
Arg.

Text is in red for PMC, blue for militia...

[Chacrana]

I fuckin' love the downtime in this game (also called mission briefings). Love it. Lets me see more of the characters' personalities. It's like Kojima read my mind.

[pete5883]

Text is in red for PMC, blue for militia...
Both were showing up red for me.

Edit: Surround sound is great in MGS4. Soooo worth the $$$.

[daroga]

Beat Crisis Core tonight and played a bit more Burnout Paradise. Good times. :)

Everyone enjoying MGS4?

[suko_32]

Beat Crisis Core tonight and played a bit more Burnout Paradise. Good times. :)

Everyone enjoying MGS4?

I am!

[whoknows]

MGS4 is still amazing. I got to the Raiden/Vamp fight.

Best game this gen IMO. No contest.

[Kendal]

Should I keep or sell my MGS4 LE?

[RelentlessRolento]

well, I just beat it. very impressed.

[Chacrana]

You musta taken like... no breaks at all. Wow.

[Nelo Ice]

lakers lost:puke:
and uhm go mgs4 yeah.....

[RelentlessRolento]

You musta taken like... no breaks at all. Wow.

:lol:

I got the game at midnight last night, then played till 7:30am. Slept till 1pm, got up, took a shower, and started again and just finished not too long ago. Random breaks, but yeah...

[Chacrana]

Did you take your time or just go through it quickly?

I feel as though I'm takin' my sweet time... moreso than in any other MGS. I'm really being stealthy, particularly cause it's so fun to use the camo system and hide.

And I'm stunned by how many ways there are to approach a situation.

This is also like... the prettiest game ever. It looks like CG from time to time.

Seriously, as a hardcore MGS fan, I couldn't have asked for more than this.

[willardhaven]

I know we're trying not to do spoilers buy do you play as Raiden?

[Chacrana]

well either way, spoiler tag that shit, whoever chooses to answer.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll answer... and say that I did rush a tiny bit but to be honest not really since I died alot at one part. actually a few parts.

Still don't know what I think of it as a game, but as a story, amazing.

so to answer:

no, but I think everyone who plays the game and has some heart will have a ton of respect for him when they beat the game.

[willardhaven]

Part of me wants to rush out and drop 500 on the bundle...

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Today: I wishes I had a PS3 or could justify buying one just for MGS4.

[Inf^Shini]

I'll answer... and say that I did rush a tiny bit but to be honest not really since I died alot at one part. actually a few parts.

I died near the beginning ;)
I decided to run at the tank (jeez he runs friggin' slow :lol:) and got shot up, went through three rations, went through at least 20 guys, and then got shot in the back and died while listening to J-pop on the iPod. I'm assuming there's no way to setup your own music on that thing eh? Either way, the iPod idea is kick ass :D

[whoknows]

well, I just beat it. very impressed.

Is the ending amazing?

[gunm]

Man, I'm so jonesing for some MGS4 tonight. I have to keep reminding myself though that this is a stealth game first and that there's no need to rush through the missions.

[Dark Slayer120]

I threw my MGS4 in the trash.

[RelentlessRolento]

Is the ending amazing?

it's not what I'd say as amazing but more like a very damn good and complete wrap up of all stories... and yes I will admit it, I got choked up a few times in the game but cried (as in a few tears) at the end.

art$$$, right?

[Dark Slayer120]

Lulz crying wtf man.

[Rei no Otaku]

I shed a tear or two at the end of MGS3, so it's not that surprising.

MGS4 is amazing so far.

[Dark Slayer120]

*Edited*

[whoknows]

*Edited*

[Dark Slayer120]

Jer's got a PS triple? Sell it after MGS4?

[gunm]

I can't remember the last game that got me choked up. Not that I'm not that kind of person, though--there's always some movie or whatever that I'll get caught up in. Nothing wrong with feeling or expressing human emotions.

[Dark Slayer120]

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And now back to our regularly schedule GGT...

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[suko_32]

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And now back to our regularly schedule GGT...

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MGS4! :whee:

[whoknows]

YAY!! :whee:

[Dark Slayer120]

Btw, I was just fucking around with you guys, internet sarcasm is a bitch. ;)

[jer7583]

MGS4 is really good.

I might keep the PS3. Just might.

I knew I would keep it when I saw MK2 on the store with online multiplayer...

And I want to play uncharted and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. And Resistance.. that's about it, though. Maybe Warhawk, if I get it cheap.

MGS4 is good, but not perfect. I can't imagine getting through this game with full out stealth. It is one of the best games I've played in a long time, though.

[Dark Slayer120]

MGS4 is really good.

I might keep the PS3. Just might.

I knew I would keep it when I saw MK2 on the store with online multiplayer...

And I want to play uncharted and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. And Resistance.. that's about it, though. Maybe Warhawk, if I get it cheap.

MGS4 is good, but not perfect. I can't imagine getting through this game with full out stealth. It is one of the best games I've played in a long time, though.

Uncharted is awesome. NGS is okay, I didn't like Resistance, and I hate Warhawk. MGS4 is the best exclusive, followed by Unchated/Ratchet and Clank Future tools of Destruction. IMO of course.

[Inf^Shini]

MGS4 is really good.

I might keep the PS3. Just might.

I knew I would keep it when I saw MK2 on the store with online multiplayer...

And I want to play uncharted and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. And Resistance.. that's about it, though. Maybe Warhawk, if I get it cheap.

MGS4 is good, but not perfect. I can't imagine getting through this game with full out stealth. It is one of the best games I've played in a long time, though.
Well I'm curious, have you ever played a perfect game?

[Dark Slayer120]

I sure have.

[RelentlessRolento]

I say reason to keep a PS3 is little big planet...


my reason for keeping is Tekken 6.

[zewone]

MK2 is garbage on PS3. No voice chat either.

[Dark Slayer120]

So, I'm curious do you guys think MGS4 will stay a PS3 exclusive? Yay or nay. Also that includes any MGS4 sub what evas.

[gunm]

I dunno if MGS4 will stay exclusive, but all I knows is this game is fuck ing EPIC.

I finally got through act 1 and I swear, if there wasn't another bout of loading I'd still be playing even farther past my bedtime than I normally would...the game just makes you want to keep going and going...and the weapons...holy shit...customizable, varied, awesome. I picked up a suppressor and just said fuck it, I'm just going to 86 anyone who gets in my way until the mission tells me otherwise .

I can't say enough good things about MGS4.

[nyprimus4]

I wouldn't rule out a Substance type version of MGS4 for 360 in a year or two.

[The Mana Knight]

I dunno if MGS4 will stay exclusive, but all I knows is this game is fuck ing EPIC. Oh it will. Konami said exclusive in more places than ANY other game. It will sell fine anyway. It's not like of those games that badly needs to be multi-platform to make the money back.

Anyway, I'm a little angry that the PSN Card I bought no longer works (got errors yesterday) and no money was added to my wallet, so I gotta call SCEA today. I'm still one of the first to have one, so it's not like I can easily find the problem out.

[jer7583]

Nah I'm sure there'll be a directors cut version put out on 360. Nothing I've seen so far seems like it couldn't be done on 360, graphically or storage wise. They'll just have to be smarter with compression and put the online component on another DVD.

I didn't mean it to say any other game is perfect, but the hyperbole people are spouting about the game's quality is absurd. At least in the first act, many areas are easy to get lost in and seem to be lacking the tight structure and design even MGS3's open areas had. The sniper segment early in the game has no real areas to flank the enemy, and two areas right next to each other where enemies continually respawn (way too obvious areas, where I actually saw PMC soldiers popping into existence) seemingly forcing you to rambo through instead of giving you the option for stealth.

The lack of a modern cover system also is frustrating. The silly story elements remain, and Akiba's diahrrea was funny once, and increasingly annoying the 20 times after that. The inventory system is as clunky and unintuitive as mass effect - Going to the menu everytime I need a new weapon not in my 5 presets is not a good choice. Drebin's shop system makes no sense since everytime I pick up a weapon it's just an extra menu choice to get it unlocked.. etc. etc.

I'm still really, really enjoying it, but as with any hyped product, people are glossing over the flaws because of the hype. It's gorgeous and has the best controls the series has had yet, and I've already seen some awesome scenarios that I know I'll want to play again.

[daroga]

I wonder what the budget for MGS4 was. I've got a hard time believing it's going to make a profit any time soon sitting on the PS3 only.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Oh it will. Konami said exclusive in more places than ANY other game. It will sell fine anyway. It's not like of those games that badly needs to be multi-platform to make the money back.
Just because they said it more doesn't make it any more true. You hear lots of people use the word these days and it's rarely true anymore. But I couldn't care less if it stays exclusive or not, I have a a PS3 to play it on and I would gladdy rebuy a directors cut(or whatever they choose it) of the game(Which I'm sure we'll see sometime soon).


The silly story elements remain, and Akiba's diahrrea was funny once, and increasingly annoying the 20 times after that.

What else would you have excepted from a guy named Johnny? The moment I took a look at the artbook and saw the name Johnny (Akiba), I saw diahrrea jokes coming.

[benjamouth]

I imagine that Sony will want to keep it exclusive for at least a year, it's obvious people are buying PS3's just for MGS4 and I guess shifting units is a key for Sony.

They'll want developers to see an expanding user base and hence greater profits on PS3 games.

[jer7583]

what does akiba even mean? is that suppossed to clue me into that he's going to be walking around with a brown stain on his butt?

[karsh]

what does akiba even mean? is that suppossed to clue me into that he's going to be walking around with a brown stain on his butt?

I think the fact that he's Johnny Sasaski should clue you in that he's gonna be walking around with the brown stain. Johnny's been in every MGS game and is constantly the source of diarrhea jokes. I think the Akiba part is supposed to be a reference to Akihabara, but I'm not sure.

[botticus]

I wonder what the budget for MGS4 was. I've got a hard time believing it's going to make a profit any time soon sitting on the PS3 only.
Seems like it will do pretty well, surprisingly. Sold 300k its first day in Japan, likely headed for a 450k first week or so. Which would already make it the best-selling PS3 game over there.

[The Mana Knight]

I wonder what the budget for MGS4 was. I've got a hard time believing it's going to make a profit any time soon sitting on the PS3 only.I thought I heard somewhere it had to sell around 1 million copies. The game sold over 300k copies in one day in Japan, and that doesn't include any PS3 bundle containing the game (which also sold out at many retailers there). If my county (definitely not the biggest one) has around 1k preorders at just GS, I pretty much guarantee the game sold 1 million copies or more on JUST the initial date, worldwide (PS3 also has its smallest userbase in Japan. Also, MGS series has been selling the best in Europe, and that's where PS3 has its largest userbase). Most games budget, they have to sell 500k to make a profit, and bigger budget games have to sell around 1-2 million to make a profit. I'm pretty much thinking the game will sell 2.5 million overall, and as long as it does, the game is fine. This isn't like many a brand new IP which people may not care about, which needs to sell 500k and keeping it exclusive.

The main reason I don't see it ported is, LATE PORTS DON'T SELL. Despite all the added content VF5 had on 360, it did not sell as much as the PS3 version worldwide. PS3 has the smaller userbase too. Last gen, MGS2 Substance bombed very badly on Xbox (sold like 25X less on Xbox when compared to PS2). Lost Planet sold like crap on PS3 compared to 360 due to being a year late. Late ports just don't sell, and when you factor in the cost of porting (Porting MGS4 to 360 would be harder since the game uses a dual-layered Blu-ray disc at 50GB), the cost of porting isn't going to make up. If anything, Konami will release a MGS4: Sub something on PS3 in a year. Not trying to be in denial here or anything, but late ports do not sell. I guarantee Bioshock is going to sell like crap on PS3, because it's a late port (Gamers want their games NOW, and even if it comes a year later, it becomes old news. GC had a much smaller userbase than PS2, but RE4 on GC outside the PS2 version in the U.S.).

MGS4 is also an exclusive Sony would paid for (that and Final Fantasy main series). If there was ANY loss (which I doubt it), Sony would cover it (they certainly did for the Final Fantasy movie). Just look at the PSBlog, it's a game they won't shut up about and are not staying quiet over (It sometimes seems more like a Sony franchise than Konami). Plus, Kojima said himself, there's no way he's porting the game ever. And does Konami have anyone else left good enough to do a port??? Nope (Many of their development teams have downsized significantly since late last gen, which explains why their internal studios output is tiny now. Also, it explains why Silent Hill: Homecoming and Origins was outsourced).

[suko_32]

From what people have said, the MGS2 Substance port on Xbox was terrible or something. Was Kojima involved in that?

[benjamouth]

Geez, I hope Silent Hill: Homecomings is good or I'll cry like a little girl.

[The Mana Knight]

From what people have said, the MGS2 Substance port on Xbox was terrible or something. Was Kojima involved in that?The only issue with the port was there was a slight bit of slowdown at the very beginning and the controls may have felt weird (since it was designed for a PS controller). I certainly believe Kojima was involved since there was a big OXM interview with him at the time it was getting ported (I use to have that OXM issues too and remember that).

I do remember the game came out near the same time as Splinter Cell, which did very well on Xbox (not so good on PS2). Oh course quality of ports can hurt sales, but overall, if a port is a bit late, it just won't sell most of the time. Releasing a game simultaneously on two platforms, all versions tend to do good (or seem to sell at a ratio of comparing user bases usually).

Maybe not a good example, but the PS3 port of Overlord has all the 360 DLC and some added features I believe, but since it's late and selling at $60 (compared to the 360 version at $20), I can guarantee it will not sell and it might have been best to not bother (I see its good for those who only have one console, to bring a late port, but usually new games come along, and they get forgotten).

[kainzero]

Maybe not a good example, but the PS3 port of Overlord has all the 360 DLC and some added features I believe, but since it's late and selling at $60 (compared to the 360 version at $20), I can guarantee it will not sell and it might have been best to not bother (I see its good for those who only have one console, to bring a late port, but usually new games come along, and they get forgotten).
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS!

you require more vespene gas~

[The Mana Knight]

I actually liked the demos to Overlord, but I don't think I'll ever buy.

Anyway, called Sony over the PSN Card problems, now I gotta go back to Meijer. When I get back home, I plan to play lots more MGS4.
Uncharted is awesome. NGS is okay, I didn't like Resistance, and I hate Warhawk. MGS4 is the best exclusive, followed by Unchated/Ratchet and Clank Future tools of Destruction. IMO of course.Did you ever play Warhawk?? Well, it's NOT a game for everyone, I know that, but I thought I remember you saying you'd never get it (before release). I liked Resistance, despite not being into FPS much, but I mostly just played it online at the time. It's a game that starts off very slow, but gets much better as time goes on.

Folklore rocks too.

[SL4IN]

I thought I heard somewhere it had to sell around 1 million copies.

MGS4 needs to sell more than a million. It needs a couple million in its lifetime to start to pull profit. It's ridiculous. Nothing against the game, but I don't know how it will sell a large million number of copies for a system that has barely over a 10 million fanbase around the world when halo 3's lifetime units are close to 8 million and it's on a console that has a nearing 20 million fanbase.

[Chacrana]

I would be shocked if the game showed up on the 360 a year from now. The game fills up a blu-ray disc, requires installs, and just lookit them graphics. I've never seen anything on the 360 that comes close. Hell, even Crysis doesn't look as polished.

[MarkMan]

No work today... had the day off...

8:50 AM

And 100 x happier.

Finally getting some sleep.

[daroga]

Any GGTers have DirecTV? Any experiences?

[dmaul1114]

Any GGTers have DirecTV? Any experiences?

I had it before and loved it. But that was when they still had the Tivo made DVR and before they started leasing their equipment rather than giving it away or selling it for free....

I'd still probably take them over Comcast if I had the option in my current place though, just because I hate Comcast so much.....but maybe not as I need the cable internet since Fios isn't available and when we tried DSL it was slow as balls here due to shitty wiring in the condo building.

[daroga]

DirecTV sells their equipment still, at least that's the impression I get from their site.

I wonder if there's anyway to share recorded shows on a DVR with another receiver-only unit...

Just really trying to figure out how to best handle the game setup in our new place, if two TVs is really a wise use of money, etc, etc.

[SL4IN]

From when I remember having direct TV, I hated it. Always went out during storms, sometimes it would randomly just quit which would result in us calling them and constantly having to get it fixed and it was just a miserable experience. But to note, I had it when satelite TV had just started to get big, which could have been the result of a lot of my problems.

I say, if you have dishnetwork available in your are, I HIGHLY recommend them. Awesome customer service and super reliable, I've never had a problem with dish network.

[Foo228]

I say, if you have dishnetwork available in your are, I HIGHLY recommend them. Awesome customer service and super reliable, I've never had a problem with dish network.

I've had both DirectTV and DishNetwork and agree that DishNetwork is better...you can get a better starting year package, you don't get charged on returns (damages due to spills etc), dvr is just as good as tivo (maybe even easier to use), and you get color-coated remotes! :)

[daroga]

Sadly, because of DirecTV's exclusivity with the NFL Sunday Ticket, they've forced our hand :(

[suko_32]

I just realized they never checked my ID when I was getting MGS4. Someone isn't doing their job lol.

[whoknows]

Played MGS4 all night last night and I have to say, the graphics are fucking ridiculous. There were parts where I couldn't believe I was actually playing because it looked so good.

Also I'm at Shadow Moses how much longer do I have til I'm done?

[Chacrana]

I especially love how seamless the transition is between movie bits and the gameplay. You'll be watching a cinematic and then your life bar appears and it's like "whoa, time 2 go fight!"

[Dark Slayer120]

Did you ever play Warhawk?? Well, it's NOT a game for everyone, I know that, but I thought I remember you saying you'd never get it (before release).Folklore rocks too.

I played it at my friends, which is why I said I hated it. I don't just say I hate games without playing them first....:roll: Yes Folklore rocks, but Jer doesn't like JRPG's which is why I didn't include it on his list.

I would be shocked if the game showed up on the 360 a year from now. The game fills up a blu-ray disc, requires installs, and just lookit them graphics. I've never seen anything on the 360 that comes close. Hell, even Crysis doesn't look as polished.

Thats a bold statement Chac, very bold. ;)


From when I remember having direct TV, I hated it. Always went out during storms, sometimes it would randomly just quit which would result in us calling them and constantly having to get it fixed and it was just a miserable experience. But to note, I had it when satelite TV had just started to get big, which could have been the result of a lot of my problems.

I say, if you have dishnetwork available in your are, I HIGHLY recommend them. Awesome customer service and super reliable, I've never had a problem with dish network.

It still sucks, and it still does that.


Lulz I'm still on MGS4 first act Liquid something. I just met Drebin how much further do I have to go! :lol: I'm in no way in hell rushing through this game. I am making myself stop, because I know there is nothing like experiencing the game for the first time.

[gunm]

Yes, yes, yes to all the impressions--graphics=amazing, immersion=amazing. I can't wait to play it again tonight!
Dark: You still got a ways to go to finish the act

[Dark Slayer120]

Yes, yes, yes to all the impressions--graphics=amazing, immersion=amazing. I can't wait to play it again tonight!
Dark: You still got a ways to go to finish the act

Alright thanks man for letting me know, I'll probably put in some game time with it tonight. I'm glad I got this weekend off, I'm definitely going to have some game play time with NGII, and MGS4.

[nyprimus4]

My brother picked this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8781339&st=asus&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1204332769810) up today. Along with Orange Box and a 1 year warranty it came out to $1390.xx IIRC.

At Bestbuy I got my Dad the 3:10 to Yuma Blu-ray for Father's Day.

Then at CVS later I got him this Father's Day card. --> http://cmsimg.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=B2&Date=20080608&Category=FEATURES&ArtNo=806080337&Ref=AR&MaxW=180&Border=0

Oh yeah and I canceled my MGS4 LE which was $10 and ended up getting Sega Genesis Collection (PS2) for use on my PS3.

[Dark Slayer120]

My brother picked this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8781339&st=asus&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1204332769810) up today. Along with Orange Box and a 1 year warranty it came out to $1390.xx IIRC.

At Bestbuy I got my Dad the 3:10 to Yuma Blu-ray for Father's Day.

Then at CVS later I got him this Father's Day card. --> http://cmsimg.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=B2&Date=20080608&Category=FEATURES&ArtNo=806080337&Ref=AR&MaxW=180&Border=0

Oh yeah and I canceled my MGS4 LE which was $10 and ended up getting Sega Genesis Collection (PS2) for use on my PS3.

Is that the one you showed Chac in the other thread?

[daroga]

Contra 4 hates me :(

Any of my TV advisors have aynthing to say on this one, especially for gaming purposes?:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40A450-40-inch-720p-HDTV/dp/B001418VZU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379433&sr=8-1

[nyprimus4]

Is that the one you showed Chac in the other thread?
Nah that one was a $1500 Asus from newegg.com.

Contra 4 hates me :(

Any of my TV advisors have aynthing to say on this one, especially for gaming purposes?:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40A450-40-inch-720p-HDTV/dp/B001418VZU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379433&sr=8-1

You might as well spend the extra $150-180 and go 1080p.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4061F-40-inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000N4Z42C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379577&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40A550-40-inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B001418W2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379577&sr=1-1#

[jer7583]

Woo Okami Complete Works, the US version is shipping from amazon right now! GO! I got mine coming soon!

I like some JRPGs, but they have to be really, really good, and not feature 12 year old girls and 12 year old boys that look like girls and be filled with cliches.

I want to try that remote play feature sometime. Can you do something like put a PS1 game in the PS3 and play it via Wi-Fi on your PSP somewhere? That sounds amazing.

[daroga]

You might as well spend the extra $150-180 and go 1080p.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4061F-40-inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000N4Z42C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379577&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40A550-40-inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B001418W2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213379577&sr=1-1#On a 40" screen? I don't think that's really a worthwhile upgrade there. I was always told that 1080 really wasn't a decent investment until you broke into the 50s.

[nyprimus4]

On a 40" screen? I don't think that's really a worthwhile upgrade there. I was always told that 1080 really wasn't a decent investment until you broke into the 50s.
It's worth it if you have an Xbox 360 and/or PS3.

[Chacrana]

On a 40" screen? I don't think that's really a worthwhile upgrade there. I was always told that 1080 really wasn't a decent investment until you broke into the 50s.

No, 37" or higher is where you'll really start to notice a difference. It won't be as drastic as the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 50" or higher set, but it'll definitely be noticeable.

[daroga]

It's worth it if you have an Xbox 360 and/or PS3.That doesn't really change my questioning of it. I've got stuff that can output at 1080p, no problem, it's that at 40" the screen's not really big enough for someone to notice the difference in detail that the resolution brings. I suppose viewing distance is an issue too.

Besides, most games this gen run natively at 720p anyway. It's really the BluRay argument that is the most forceful one.

[zewone]

Played MGS4 all night last night and I have to say, the graphics are fucking ridiculous. There were parts where I couldn't believe I was actually playing because it looked so good.

Also I'm at Shadow Moses how much longer do I have til I'm done?

Depends how far you are in there, but you still have plenty of hours to enjoy. 8-)

[willardhaven]

Personally I think you should go for a plasma TV, even the best LCDs I've seen still look pretty bad when you are at the slightest angle.

[daroga]

Personally I think you should go for a plasma TV, even the best LCDs I've seen still look pretty bad when you are at the slightest angle.My cheapo LCD looks the same as it does to the front up to about 170 degrees.

[benjamouth]

My cheapo LCD looks the same as it does to the front up to about 170 degrees.

My DLP on the other hand, your ass better be front and centre or you won't see shit. Not good.

[daroga]

My DLP on the other hand, your ass better be front and centre or you won't see shit. Not good.yeah, my Dad has one of those. It looks best standing up behind the couch.

I'd not be thrilled if I had gotten that thing.

[benjamouth]

yeah, my Dad has one of those. It looks best standing up behind the couch.

I'd not be thrilled if I had gotten that thing.

Well thats what happens when you go to a store with the basic idea of "I shall buy a TV" and no research/idea of what you want. Don't do it kids.

Luckily my company paid for it as part of my relocation package.;)
Even more lucky is that I can point it directly at where I sit in the room, so I get the best of what it has to offer.

When it finally goes the way of the dodo, this is what I was intending on getting
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN46A650-46-inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B001413D94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1213381770&sr=1-1

Opinions ?

[zewone]

Well thats what happens when you go to a store with the basic idea of "I shall buy a TV" and no research/idea of what you want. Don't do it kids.

Luckily my company paid for it as part of my relocation package.;)
Even more lucky is that I can point it directly at where I sit in the room, so I get the best of what it has to offer.

When it finally goes the way of the dodo, this is what I was intending on getting
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN46A650-46-inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B001413D94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1213381770&sr=1-1

Opinions ?


http://shop1.frys.com/product/5541290

http://shop1.frys.com/product/5569040

[benjamouth]

http://shop1.frys.com/product/5541290

http://shop1.frys.com/product/5569040

Thanks Zewone.

Hmm interesting, would I have to pay Tax if I got it from Fry's ?

[gunm]

Nice. I like Samsung LCDs overall.

I think 120hz is overrated right now though as it gives most movies, particularly CGI, a strange artificial look.

Gah, a bunch of DS RPGs are coming out soon that I want. I won't buy them until I can find a good price on them. But I still want them. :p

[zewone]

If you have a Fry's in your state.

[nyprimus4]

I can't find the digital camera so I snapped some pictures with my cellphone and I figured out how to transfer the pictures through Bluetooth to my Macbook.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5245/photo0006ym7.jpg Bringing home the lappy from Bestbuy.

Some recent pickups.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7378/photo0009oo6.jpg GTA IV, MLB 08: The Show, Motorstorm, and SEGA Genesis Collection.
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6800/photo0007ks4.jpg From the Target Sale - Monster Madness, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 x2, Geometry Wars, and Worms.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2219/photo0008uo6.jpg Father's Day Card + Gift (3:10 to Yuma Blu-ray)

[Azumangaman]

I'm getting the MGS collection after exams.
Then I'm gonna play 'em.
Then I'm gonna buy MGS4.
And I'm gonna play it
IT LOOKS SOOOO GOOD.

[Kendal]

Anyone who bitched about MGS:Twin Snakes being over the top and doesn't about MGS4 is a fucking asshole. So far I love MGS4. Well worth the wait and the money.

[daroga]

Man, that Onkyo 606 receiver is lot of bang for the buck...

Wii in HD here I come! ;)

[willardhaven]

Anyone who bitched about MGS:Twin Snakes being over the top and doesn't about MGS4 is a fucking asshole. So far I love MGS4. Well worth the wait and the money.

People who complain about Twin Snakes are crazy.

[Azumangaman]

So I went to Rogers Video (Canadas BBV competition).
They have 2 for 40 on ALL used games.
They had Devil May Cry4 (360) and GTAIV (360)
I know, thats hot.

[refusedchaos]

damn the fucking cheap glue they used for the ps2 SF anniversary Akuma controller box...i moved it from my shelf to my closet and the right side came off! so much for being sealed :bomb:

[jer7583]

lol yeah that'll happen with those. When I worked retail all of ours were "sealed" as well ;)

[refusedchaos]

hey, how many acts are in MGS4? 5?

[zewone]

5.

[RelentlessRolento]

not including epilogue ;)

[botticus]

Woo Okami Complete Works, the US version is shipping from amazon right now! GO! I got mine coming soon!

!

:-( Still unavailable. You have an old preorder, or did they only have five copies?

[The Mana Knight]

I'm really exhausted, finally got the PSN Card to work thankfully. Really, really long story which I mentioned in the PSN Card thread.

Bought Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 and really enjoy it for arcade action. Going to play MGS4 after I shower.

[MarkMan]

Beat MGS4 earlier this morning...

Loved it. It was super easy compared to MGS3 and MGS2. Loved every minute of it!

My rankings for SOLID Normal:

HYENA

[zewone]

I got the same rank.

I also got Pig and Scorpion.

[jer7583]

!

:-( Still unavailable. You have an old preorder, or did they only have five copies?

I pre-ordered a while ago. Got it for $25 shipped too!

So can you not use remote play when you have a custom firmware PSP?

[MarkMan]

I got the same rank.

I also got Pig and Scorpion.

Me too! I saw on the next page... *high five*

[Kendal]

I pre-ordered a while ago. Got it for $25 shipped too!

So can you not use remote play when you have a custom firmware PSP?

There is a registry key cleaner for the PSP. You have to do that.

[MarkMan]

Going to try Big Boss Hard/Extreme

Anyone try them yet? I don't want to get destroyed but I DO want more of a challenge.

I wonder how easy Liquid Easy is vs Human on DMC and Ninja Dog in NG.

[The Mana Knight]

Not sure if you saw the news, I've been mentioned:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/13/north-american-psn-cards-available-now-at-meijer/
http://www.jplaystation.com/2008/06/13/north-american-psn-cards-available-now-at-meijer#comment-1016

Played more MGS4. Still loving it big time and it exceeded my expectations. :D

[Azumangaman]

DMC4.
I started to play.
Beat the first 3 missions.
On human mode (I know, pathetic).
But the rest of the weekend/week is SUPER EXAM STUDY TIME!
NO MORE FUN! :(

How long is DMC4? I'd imagine later on I'd attempt the Devil Hunter mode. Human is SOOOO simple.

[MarkMan]

I'm eating dinner right now... What is it?

Eggs, sunny side up.

Word.

NES.

NES METAL GEAR!

[Chacrana]

I just finished MGS4.

It is the best game I've ever played. Like, holy shit.

The ending didn't top that of MGS3, but I still liked it a lot.

I wanna play through it again on hard mode.


Actually, now I'm just sorta depressed that it's all over. It doesn't feel real :cry:

[Chacrana]

I'm eating dinner right now... What is it?

Eggs, sunny side up.

Word.

NES.

NES METAL GEAR!

Ooh, maybe I should play through the Metal Gear games on the Subsistence disc of MGS3... I never played them. Are they still fun? Or is it pure nostalgia now?



I also need to watch the BD that came with the LE. I think I'll do that now.

[ninja dog]

i feel asleep

[zewone]

Not sure if you saw the news, I've been mentioned:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/13/north-american-psn-cards-available-now-at-meijer/
http://www.jplaystation.com/2008/06/13/north-american-psn-cards-available-now-at-meijer#comment-1016

Played more MGS4. Still loving it big time and it exceeded my expectations. :D

Your lifelong dream to be mentioned on PS3Fanboy.com has come to fruition. Congratulations

:applause:!

[MarkMan]

I lol'd...

PS3 fanboys unite!

<3

[MarkMan]

Hey did anyone else feel, regarding MGS4 boss battles...

The BB boss fights were a bit bland? Don't get me wrong, it's not the gameplay I have issues with, it's just the whole systematic beat them, see their sexyness, get an item, talk to drebin routine was a bit... I don't know... bland? I mean, at least there wasn't 8 robot bosses... Damn you Dr. Wily/Liquid!

[Chacrana]

Hey did anyone else feel, regarding MGS4 boss battles...

The BB boss fights were a bit bland? Don't get me wrong, it's not the gameplay I have issues with, it's just the whole systematic beat them, see their sexyness, get an item, talk to drebin routine was a bit... I don't know... bland? I mean, at least there wasn't 8 robot bosses... Damn you Dr. Wily/Liquid!

hmmmm....

I liked them better than the MGS3 bosses (except for The Boss, obviously), but they lacked personality. They're more or less just dropped there for some reason. I still think the best set of bosses are either those in MGS1 or 2, because they had a real purpose for being there... they had personality, motives, and were much more integral to the storyline. That said, I loved fighting the actual battles.

And I fuckin' loved the Rex/Ray and Ocelot fights.

[zewone]

Hey did anyone else feel, regarding MGS4 boss battles...

The BB boss fights were a bit bland? Don't get me wrong, it's not the gameplay I have issues with, it's just the whole systematic beat them, see their sexyness, get an item, talk to drebin routine was a bit... I don't know... bland? I mean, at least there wasn't 8 robot bosses... Damn you Dr. Wily/Liquid!

Yeah, they should have switched that up. Screaming Mantis was the shit though.

[MarkMan]

Oh yea don't get me wrong, the Psycho Mantis stuff made all that stuff up for me....

[Chacrana]

Oh yea don't get me wrong, the Psycho Mantis stuff made all that stuff up for me....

I feel bad for those lamers who never played the past 3 games... so much shit like that is lost on them. They'll have no idea why it's funny that Mantis can't read your memory card, or why it's funny that Otakon tells you to switch to disc 2 at the exact place where it happened in the first game.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm with you MM... the boss battles were the weakest the series has ever seen IMHO... it felt more like a grind than all the other MGS games. oh well, still good.

[kainzero]

Ooh, maybe I should play through the Metal Gear games on the Subsistence disc of MGS3... I never played them. Are they still fun? Or is it pure nostalgia now?
they were never fun.

[Chacrana]

I'm with you MM... the boss battles were the weakest the series has ever seen IMHO... it felt more like a grind than all the other MGS games. oh well, still good.

I'm just glad the bosses themselves weren't as lame as the Cobras. I just never dug the idea of a guy who controls bees, or The Fear... the fights were fun, but the characters weren't that cool.

The only thing missing from this game was Ocelot's revolver tricks :(

[MarkMan]

And his noises... ;(

While we're at it... how about a GGT MGO team?

[jer7583]

I finished the first chapter.. what an amazing game.

Is there any gamesharing going on in the GGT? I'd like to get Super Stardust and Everyday Shooter, but not pay for them.. maybe even tekken5DR so i could play with some of you guys?

I've got Pain that came with my PS3 and bought MK2 today that i could gameshare if anyone's interested.

[The Mana Knight]

Your lifelong dream to be mentioned on PS3Fanboy.com has come to fruition. Congratulations

:applause:!I'm not going to lie, that was one of my dreams. ;)

Hmm, bought Commando 3. Pretty fun IMO and gives me that arcade shooter fix.

[RelentlessRolento]

congrads TMK :)

[leveskikesko]

Like most sane gamers I've been playing MGS4.

I love that its like watching a movie and playing a game all in one. Though sometimes I feel it teases you with awesome action sequences in cutscenes that might actually work in the game world, but it's all cool. I really admire the attention to detail.

So far, it's living up to the hype. Not sure if it's topping mgs3 for me just yet, but time will tell.

[Chacrana]

Man, the Blu Ray that comes with the LE is fucking fantastic so far. It's got so much info, and it kicks the shit out of the lame DVDs that came with stuff like DMC 4 and NG Sigma.

[suko_32]

I just beat the first boss of MGS4, and it was so awesome. Too awesome.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Yay, TWEWY is awesome.

.....

Stupid Sony and stupid dat triple and stupid MGS4.

[daroga]

Jer, I might be in on game sharing. I'm not even sure how that works, though. ;)

[Rei no Otaku]

No game should be allowed to be as good as MGS4. How am I supposed to go back to playing other games?

[RelentlessRolento]

i'd say GTAIV is the only thing close to MGS4 in terms of density.

[whoknows]

I just beat chapter 4 and HOLY SHIT Rex vs Ray is probably the most badass thing in the history of the universe

[RelentlessRolento]

I just beat chapter 4 and HOLY SHIT Rex vs Ray is probably the most badass thing in the history of the universe

it gets better

[jer7583]

MGO is really fun. I loved it in Subsistence and it's even better in MGS4. I'd be up for playing with GGTers. My PSN name is DioMustaine, but my name on MGO is VicRattlehead. I'm not sure how that really works.

Let's hope they keep the servers up for more than a year this time around.

Daroga I think the way gamesharing works is you can log onto the other person's Playstation Store account and re-download the game on a different PS3.

[RelentlessRolento]

MGO is 50/50 for me... sometimes fun, sometimes not.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/jazzking2001/lego%20game%20scenes/102371539_fb97884546.jpg

[Moxio]

Ahahaha this thread is overflowing with MGS4 bitches.

[zewone]

Moxio is mad because he's took broke to afford a PS3 and MGS4. 8-)

[Moxio]

Hey stop it! : <

[Dark Slayer120]

I took a shit in the sink, pissed all over the floor and threw up everywhere. From there on I was known as the sick fucked up kid that nobody wanted to play Tetherball with.

:rofl:

Inu sends his <3

[leveskikesko]

No game should be allowed to be as good as MGS4. How am I supposed to go back to playing other games?

That's how I felt about Super Mario Galaxy, and yet I am still playing awesome games like MGS4 and more to come.

[Krymner]

Got home late last night from my sister's wedding in Kentucky, and stayed up even later hooking up that triple and playing some of that MGS4 awesomeness. One of the best console games I have ever played, period. No, its not perfect, but it does so many damn things right that the imperfections are easier to overlook.

Last night I went thru all of Act 1 and am now a good ways into Act 2 on normal (Solid) difficulty. Then, I restarted a new game and played it on the easiest setting, and just went thru Act 1 again without bothering to do any stealth and just running and gunning my way thru. Awesome. I thought it was cool that I got different opening movies, and I'm wondering if this is just random, or is it based on the difficulty you select?

Anyway, I'm going back to playing it now.

BTW, my PSN callsign is Krymner, if anyone wants to friend me.

[blueshinra]

Ahahaha this thread is overflowing with MGS4 bitches.
Yeah, this is one of those times I feel left out.

The next game I'm excited for is FFTA2, but I probably won't buy it right away (sick of overpaying for Squeenix DS games, even if they're really, really good).

[pete5883]

I am remarkably slow in MGS4, only in Act 2. I'm creid8 in MGO.

[daroga]

Morning everyone!

It's my birthday! Hooray! :oldman:

Gonna go look/listen at/to amps and speakers today with my dear wife. I think I've got a setup mostly planned to go with the new TV. It certainly not going to be what an audiophile with unlimited money would get, but it's gonna be a heck of a lot better than what we've got (amp/speakers from a HTIAB from about 7 years ago). Maybe the fronts will actually have tweeter AND a woofer in one speaker ;) Actually, kinda thinking of going floorstanding over bookshelf speakers. Not sure yet though. Have to go listen!

Beat Contra 4 on east last night, and just beat Contra 1 on its cart. Great times! :)

[Chibi_Kaji]

I'd like to play MGO, But I need to play around with my PS3 and get it to stop disconnecting from PSN. And a DNS error a pops up every now and then when I turn on the PS3.

I am remarkably slow in MGS4, only in Act 2.
Same here. I got stuck working for 11 hours for 2 days. So I haven't really played much.

[Chacrana]

Morning everyone!

It's my birthday! Hooray! :oldman:

Gonna go look/listen at/to amps and speakers today with my dear wife. I think I've got a setup mostly planned to go with the new TV. It certainly not going to be what an audiophile with unlimited money would get, but it's gonna be a heck of a lot better than what we've got (amp/speakers from a HTIAB from about 7 years ago). Maybe the fronts will actually have tweeter AND a woofer in one speaker ;) Actually, kinda thinking of going floorstanding over bookshelf speakers. Not sure yet though. Have to go listen!

Beat Contra 4 on east last night, and just beat Contra 1 on its cart. Great times! :)

Nice! Happy B-day.

As always, if you've got any questions about that HT nonsense, feel free to ask.

[Krymner]

Happy B-day daroga!

Got my first death in MGS4. :bomb: Those damn Gekko's!! However, the Laughing Octopus boss fight was pretty easy.

[whoknows]

MGO is really fun. I loved it in Subsistence and it's even better in MGS4. I'd be up for playing with GGTers. My PSN name is DioMustaine, but my name on MGO is VicRattlehead. I'm not sure how that really works.

Let's hope they keep the servers up for more than a year this time around.

Daroga I think the way gamesharing works is you can log onto the other person's Playstation Store account and re-download the game on a different PS3.

Yeah, the MGO system is pretty stupid. I don't know why it doesn't just use your PSN name, but some moron at Konami thought it would be a good idea to force you to make a new name.

Oh well. In any case, my PSN name and MGO name is mmmpepsi. We should get some GGT action going one night.

And happy b-day Daroga. Hope you get something nice ;)

[Dark Slayer120]

Morning everyone!

It's my birthday! Hooray! :oldman:


Happy B-day big D. I'm still right after Drebin in Act 1 in MGS4. I haven't played much of it since the midnight release. Hopefully that changes today, but a girl wants to go out and do something with me and everyone knows girls come before dem vida ghames. ;)

[whoknows]

I just read Gamespots review of MGS4 and I like their complaint "The single-player experience ends."

Best complaint ever.

[Dark Slayer120]

God I <3 having a triple and a 360. One for MGS4 and one for NGII. So fucking worth it, two awesome games not even a week apart? FUCK YES!!!

[benjamouth]

Happy Birthday Daroga.

Squeezed the last few cheesemints out of MOH Airbourne (well last few I can actually be bothered getting). So I need to decide what game I'm gonna concentrate on next.:-k

[pete5883]

For what it's worth, Chac, I have no complaints about my DefTech speakers.

I thought I needed a break from MGS4, but I have nothing else to do. So I guess it's back to the game for me.

[refusedchaos]

im on the raging raven boss atm....so far the game is pretty badass!

oh and hapy b-day daroga

[Dark Slayer120]

Rage!

[blueshinra]

Happy Birthday, Daroga!

[Dark Slayer120]

I'm going to add some of you's GGT members to my PS triples friend list. If anyone does not want me to add them let me know.

[daroga]

Thanks everyone! Spent the morning shopping with my wife (including speakers and TVs ;) ).

Originally I was thinking about just getting some better fronts for the setup and replacing the rest as I went along. However, the guy at the store suggested it might be better to get a 5.1 set so that they're all properly voiced / powered. That make sense?

The space they have to fill won't be huge (probably 10x10 or a little bit bigger from couch to EC), and they'll be running on on the Onkyo 606. Would something like this do?

http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-HKTS-18-Channel-Speaker/dp/B000K7ZWVK/ref=pd_bbs_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213465393&sr=8-4

I'm not sure I could get away with spending any more on a speakers, but I also don't need top of the line stuff either (I've been using a Sony HTIAB setup for the past 7 years now), but I certainly want the most bang for my buck.

Is there going to be a huge difference between the set linked above and this one? Is H/K something I should even be consdiering?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K818SA/ref=pd_luc_sbs_02_02

[Chacrana]

Personally, I wouldn't bother with either of those. I really, really think you should get two good front speakers and a good sub. I guarantee you that with a great 2.1 for the time being, you would have a much better experience than you would with a 5.1... especially a 5.1 from Harman-Kardon.



I finished watching the Blu-Ray that came with the MGS4 LE. Very informative. I'm not sure if I want to play through MGS4 again and try and stealth through it, or if I wanna play Metal Gear 1 and 2...

MGS4 it is.

[daroga]

Any suggestions on where to be looking, Chac? Brands and the like? Would the medicore speakers that I've already got from my HT setup work alright as stand-in rears until I can get around to replacing them?

He demoed some Energy speakers which had a beautifully clean treble to them.

[Chacrana]

Any suggestions on where to be looking, Chac? Brands and the like? Would the medicore speakers that I've already got from my HT setup work alright as stand-in rears until I can get around to replacing them?

He demoed some Energy speakers which had a beautifully clean treble to them.

Yeah, your mediocre speakers would be fine for rears, especially since they won't get used that much.

For speakers, I'd look at these stereo pairs:

http://www.svsound.com/products-spks-sbs01.cfm

and

http://av123.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=172&category_id=21&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37

The latter is not much better, but the finish is really nice, if you're into the whole wife approval business.

For the sub, it's going to be SVS:

http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-10nsd.cfm

That's the smaller one, and if the room you're putting this stuff in is small-ish, then it'll be more than enough. There's also the PB-12NSD which is a little bit bigger, though the price goes up quite a bit. Basically, this'll net you better sound than you get from the theater.


Only downside is that you've gotta order this stuff online... it's not at Best Buy or anything like that... but these places do have like a 30 day trial or something on their stuff, and honestly, this stuff is incredible, especially given the price.

Edit: Oh yeah, the sub is gigantic. That could be a downside for you, but if your room is set up for it, you could put the sub next to your couch and use it as a table. I'm not even joking.

[nyprimus4]

How is post patch Lair? Does it fix all the gameplay problems the terribly reviewed version got? Is it worth it to get for $30 do have a good, fun PS3 experience?

[Dark Slayer120]

Chac, you are a god.

[gunm]

Cool, glad I'm not the only one who is <sacrelliege> avoiding the stealth elements when they have a chance on at least one playthrough. And I will echo that is just sooo badass when the camera pans and zooms out just before you resume control of the game after a cutscene.

I can't stop playing this game! :o

[refusedchaos]

How is post patch Lair? Does it fix all the gameplay problems the terribly reviewed version got? Is it worth it to get for $30 do have a good, fun PS3 experience?

still not worth it

[Dark Slayer120]

still not worth it

This man speaks the truth.

[Chacrana]

2007 was such a disappointing year... first Lair, then Assassin's Creed... the year sucked, quite honestly. 2008 is basically what 2007 should have been.

Except on the Wii.

[Dark Slayer120]

07 had way too many game's in the first person, and shitty 3rd person games. 08 is already 10X better then 07.

[The Mana Knight]

Any suggestions on where to be looking, Chac? Brands and the like? Would the medicore speakers that I've already got from my HT setup work alright as stand-in rears until I can get around to replacing them?

He demoed some Energy speakers which had a beautifully clean treble to them.I told you earlier Happy Birthday, but happy birthday again. :D I'll be the next GGT member to turn 26.

[Foo228]

I've never had so much trouble with a tutorial until I played Gears of War today...that game is insane

[Dandeschain]

Happy BDay Daroga! Wouldn't it be sweet if Konami did some hi-res remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 for XBLA and PSN? I'd be all over that. I really wanna get a PS3 for MGS4, but I was gonna holdout to find a 60GB model for the BC. I might just get a 40GG though. All of the PS1 games and most of the PS2 games will look like garbage on my plasma anyway.

[whoknows]

2007 was such a disappointing year... first Lair, then Assassin's Creed... the year sucked, quite honestly. 2008 is basically what 2007 should have been.

Except on the Wii.

Well last year had uhhhh...well, the only non FPS game I liked in 2007 (on current consoles) is Uncharted I think. I can't think of anything else.

Still, so far this gen is a disappointment IMO (aside from MGS4 of course).

[Azumangaman]

All my local game stores still have the MGS4 LE in stock. If I secure a job this week (I have 2 different interviews), I'll go pick it up with the MGS collection.
If there is no job. I'll just get the collection and later on the regular edition.

[Rei no Otaku]

2007 was such a disappointing year... first Lair, then Assassin's Creed... the year sucked, quite honestly. 2008 is basically what 2007 should have been.

Except on the Wii.
I woudn't call it disappointing. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Portal, Phoenix Wright 3, Persona 3, Rock Band, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword (I liked it...), Ratchet and Clank, etc.

Far from disappointing.

[Inf^Shini]

Well last year had uhhhh...well, the only non FPS game I liked in 2007 (on current consoles) is Uncharted I think. I can't think of anything else.

Still, so far this gen is a disappointment IMO (aside from MGS4 of course).
Well for me so far, I've enjoyed FF Crisis Core, GTAIV, AW: Days Of Ruin, DMC4, and of course MGS4.

I've yet to try out Patapon, DBZ Burst Limit, COD4 (!), TWEWY, Burnout Paradise, and just a slew of other games.

I really want to pick up 360 though so I can play NGII also.

I can't wait for Resistance 2! That game looks amazing, whoever hasn't yet, should check out the gameplay/interview at Insomniac studios on Gametrailers.

[whoknows]

What I meant by this gen being a disappiontment is that it's the same thing as last gen except the games look prettier.

[Chacrana]

I woudn't call it disappointing. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Portal, Phoenix Wright 3, Persona 3, Rock Band, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword (I liked it...), Ratchet and Clank, etc.

Far from disappointing.

Problem is, there was nothing that was like FUCKIN ZOMG AWESOME like DMC4, NG2, or MGS4.

[zewone]

Not entirely. The amount of characters on screen couldn't have been matched on last gen's systems. Plus, this gen is far from over.

[benjamouth]

I thought 2007 was an amazing year for games, Mass Effect, Orange Box, Forza 2, Super Mario Galaxy etc

I think this year might be dissapointing, seems to have been a lot of sequels so far.

I think this gen is kicking last gen's ass in terms of technological leaps forward like Live and the Wii.

[nyprimus4]

I just hooked up my Creative 2.1 PC Speakers to my PS3 and 32" LCD HDTV and it is like playing games for the first time again.