GGT #56 is no hero. Never was, never will be.

[dmaul1114]

Playing Crackdown now. Picked it up off Goozex last month.

It took me a while to get into it but I'm having a blast now that I've got the hang of it. Just fun as hell to run around jumping building to building, and pretty easy to focus on the story quests as well which is a plus for me as I get bored with most sandbox games. I have one general and the mob boss left for the first gang.

[dmaul1114]

The thing that annoys me with that design is that they ate so much space off of the shelves with those legs. The 360 and PS3 could barely sit side by side (to say nothing of ventilation) on that shelf. The receiver would have to be on its own, or just with the Wii. Just a weird design choice.


Definitely true.

I just have the receiver on the bottom by itself, my HD cable box and DVD player stacked on the middle shelf and the 360 by itself on the top shelf. It's definitely not a great stand if you have multiple consoles. When I still had my PS2 and Wii they were on the top shelf and the 360 on the hardwood floor beside the TV.

I doubt I'll ever have more than one console at a time from now on since I just don't game that much, so it works for me as I like nice, neat, minimalist designs--another reason I doubt I'll own multiple consoles. Just looks like crap having a TV rack full of gaming crap in the living room!

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... MGO is more fun then I remember it to be. I finally don't suck at a shooting game and am always in the top 3 :lol:

[suko_32]

MGS4's Act 4 is like the coolest thing ever.

[Dark Slayer120]

Went to GS the other day to pick up my MGS4 LE, guy asked if I wanted the Guide also but I said nah. He's all "You're gonna regret it later on, the game is pretty hard", but I just tell him no thanks. I'm about to leave the counter and he says he's going to laugh when I come back in for it, so I laugh like "Oh, good one", then he gives this smug ass look and says "No, seriously, I will"

fuck YOU!

They didn't give me my artbook thingy either but I really don't want to look at that guy's face again, I might pop him one.

Thats fucked up man, I don't blame you at all. If it makes you feel better I got robbed of the art book too.

Blocking in NG2 is worse. Pretty much every attack beyond the first one breaks your defenses. Shurikens always hit, you no matter's going on, so it's useless there too.

Evade more, block less.

[Inf^Shini]

Thats fucked up man, I don't blame you at all. If it makes you feel better I got robbed of the art book too.
Yea, I wasn't in the mood to deal with him at all. I did go back today, a different guy was working the counter and he just said ok, cracked open the cabinet, and gave me one. There were at least 15-20 more in there from my view o_O

I actually this this artbook is pretty nifty, better than the DMC4 one, but the thing about one of the models, yea...that's ain't too attractive there. Reminds me of Austin Powers :lol:

Mole....moley moley moley...mole...*pokes with stick*

[Chacrana]

Seriously, that chick was sufferin' from somethin.

Whoever the azn chick was was definitely the hottest. Maybe it was Yumi?

It's the second BB.

[Dark Slayer120]

Yea, I wasn't in the mood to deal with him at all. I did go back today, a different guy was working the counter and he just said ok, cracked open the cabinet, and gave me one. There were at least 15-20 more in there from my view o_O

I actually this this artbook is pretty nifty, better than the DMC4 one, but the thing about one of the models, yea...that's ain't too attractive there. Reminds me of Austin Powers :lol:

Mole....moley moley moley...mole...*pokes with stick*

Damn 15-20 more!!! I can haz one!>!,w1 I hate cocky fuckers like that though, and it's not that hard, especially if you're an action fan. 8-) Glad you ended up getting one though man, just sucks that you got treated like a POS. Thats GS for you I guess.

[Inf^Shini]

Seriously, that chick was sufferin' from somethin.

Whoever the azn chick was was definitely the hottest. Maybe it was Yumi?

It's the second BB.
yea it was yumi

I'm kinda regretting not going to the midnight thing in Hollywood, I was just too tired and didn't really feel up to it :/

Damn 15-20 more!!! I can haz one!>!,w1 I hate cocky fuckers like that though, and it's not that hard, especially if you're an action fan. 8-) Glad you ended up getting one though man, just sucks that you got treated like a POS. Thats GS for you I guess.

Fo sho, it really isn't that hard. I did fuck around in the beginning though, ended up getting flanked randomly and got shot up. OctoCamo is so cool though :D

Oh yea, there's fken Guinea Pigs! I loved that. I started chasing one around with the camera and heard their squeaking, haha that was awesome. We have a pet Guinea Pig so we can relate ;O
I did shoot it though, kinda felt a bit guilty, like I shot my own pet :/

[Dark Slayer120]

W00t`......


.......


8-)

[MarkMan]

MGS4 Item Related possible spoilers...

So now I got the bandanna, stealth camouflage, and tanegashima and Boktai's Solar Gun! Fuck yea lets rumble...

I'm going to start playing MGO too!

[SL4IN]

hey everyone........

[Mr. Anderson]

Hay Gaiz

[zewone]

Hai gayz

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: I love reloading with the solar gun.

[Krymner]

I should have MGS4 beat today. I had a little problem with beating Screaming Mantis, but I finally figured out what to do to win, and then saved right after so that I could savor the ending today.

I will prolly start on that P3 FES soon, too. But not until tomorrow, cause if I start today I know I won't get any sleep, and since I only got about 3 hours yesterday, I need the rest. ;)

And I drive much better in real life than in video games. Especially in racing games, I do whatever it takes to win and will abuse the vehicle to its limits to cross the finish line first. But in real life, I am a very safe and confident driver who hasn't had any accident at all in over 10 years.

I just saw that DMC4 at Gamefly is going for $19.99 used and I am very tempted to bite on that deal.

[pete5883]

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day. I've been waiting for this since like 2004:

http://www.amazon.com/Megaman-Zero-Official-Complete-Works/dp/1897376014

And it finally shipped.

And this too!

http://www.amazon.com/Okami-Official-Complete-Works-Capcom/dp/1897376022/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=IJ186NCP0Z3LL&colid=1TQK9681WWM84

[daroga]

I'm excited to get DMC4. NG2 put me in an action game mode. I almost got God of War 2 with the coupon from GS, but glad I waited and got this for almost the same price. :)

[botticus]

Hmm... might have to order the Okami art book finally.

[Dandeschain]

Morning GGT. I'm quite tempted to jump on that DMC4 and Burnout Paradise dealy. Is gamefly's stuff usually in good condition?

[Chibi_Kaji]

Ooh, The Mega Man Zero artbook is finally out? I guess I'll go order that later.

[daroga]

The few things I've gotten from Gamefly have all been in really good shape. But they are used, so, caveat emptor.

[jer7583]

gamefly's games are almost always in perfect condition..

I won't spend money though! $500 last week was enough for the whole month.. even year!

[Dandeschain]

Hey Jer, I'm goin to see Maiden tonight! Can't fricken' wait! Just thought I'd mention it, you seem like a metalhead. I've only played the Burnout demo, it seems pretty good though. What does the online mode entail?

[daroga]

I've not really messed around with online, but it seems pretty slick in that it hop in, hop out. There's few, if any, menus in the game.

Does the DMC series have a story to the point that I should read or watch something before I play 4? Or is it nonsensical like NG and just for the gameplay?

[benjamouth]

S'up GGT.

Well my Dell PS3 order is in limbo now as quite a few have apparently been cancelled, mine is still at the same status it was yesterday morning when I ordered.

So maybe no Triple for me :cry:
If this falls through I think it will be a long time before I ever get one, the stars were alined this time but I'm not sure they will be again.

Last night I was mostly playing Forza 2 and Enchanted Arms.

[The Mana Knight]

I just saw that DMC4 at Gamefly is going for $19.99 used and I am very tempted to bite on that deal.I'd definitely jump on it. Sounds like a good deal for the game to me.

Hay GaizHey. What's up?

hey everyone........Long time no see SL4IN. :)

Anyway, played a little Mario Kart w/ CAG yesterday. Fun times.

[The Mana Knight]

Sorry, I gotta double post here a rant/rage. My fucking AIM decided to sign off all my accounts. Now I cannot fucking get back on, regardless of what program I used. I tried signing onto 6 or more AIM screennames I have, and only one worked for a short time. This is really pissing me off, since I spend at least 84 hours a week on AIM (being around it), and I cannot live without AIM.

Anyway, about to play some SingStar. If my family is home, I may play MGS4 before lunch time.

[Rei no Otaku]

AIM must be acting up for some people. Most of my list is offline right now.

[daroga]

Yeah, it was being weird an hour or so ago for me. Seems fine now.

[Krymner]

I have beaten MGS4. Truly a masterpiece game, but I do have one HUGE complaint. (Not a much of a spoiler, but I will wrap it just in case you are holding out some hope.) You never get a chance to kill the damn monkey. I have some other complaints about the game, but overall the presentation, story, and gameplay are of the highest caliber, and it deserves a position among the 100 best video games available.

And I tried to pull the trigger on the DMC4 deal, but the website keeps freezing up, so maybe I'll try again in a little while.

[Dark Slayer120]

hey everyone........

Hey my friend! 8-)

Does the DMC series have a story to the point that I should read or watch something before I play 4? Or is it nonsensical like NG and just for the gameplay?

Uhh, DMC is way more story oriented then Ninja Gaiden. DMC4 takes place after DMC1. The story in DMC goes like this: DMC3-DMC1-DMC4-DMC2. So if I were you, and you planned on playing the DMC games, I'd play DMC3 first and then DMC1 before playing DMC4. If you didn't want to do that, I think you tube has both DMC1/DMC3 stories on there, so you can just watch them before playing DMC4.

[daroga]

Yeah, I'll be youtubing those. Thanks :)

[jer7583]

Devil May Cry's story makes just as much sense as Ninja Gaiden's..

that is to say, none.

Which makes it about 2 notches above MGS's story.. lol.

Was that B2G1 at gamestop a hoax? are they not doing that now? I'd like to get Uncharted-Resistance-Ninja Gaiden Sigma

[jer7583]

Hey Jer, I'm goin to see Maiden tonight! Can't fricken' wait! Just thought I'd mention it, you seem like a metalhead. I've only played the Burnout demo, it seems pretty good though. What does the online mode entail?

AWESOME. My roomate went to chicago to see them about a week ago and had a great time. They got the tickets way ahead of time and I couldn't get in on it, but i'm sure you'll get your face rocked off. Bruce Dickenson is still a madman, i don't know how he still does it.

Monoprice sent me 3 DVI-HDMI cables instead of just one and said keep them. Anybody need one?

[Dark Slayer120]

Yeah, I'll be youtubing those. Thanks :)

No problem man, I think it's pretty important to know the back story on certain "things" in DMC4. I know if I just jumped into DMC4 without playing any other DMC games I would have no clue wtf was going on with certain "things" in the story. Anyway played more MGS4 last night and finished up act 4. I should start act 5 tonight after the work, act 4 was really cool though. Fucking Nostalgia when you heard past conversations that were in flashback mode. Plus seeing the old place again, really made me feel good. Also crying wolf was a decent challenge for myself, seems like the snow field is always a good spot for great battles. Also Raiden holding back the ship "Outer Haven" from crashing into/killing Snake was fucking amazing. Dude cut his own fucking arm off to protect Snake. Is anyone else's respect for Raiden through the roof like mine is? Also <3'ed the Rex vs Ray battle it was really an interesting fight. I also now want to go back through MGS2 so I can play as Raiden. :lol:

[jer7583]

I jumped into DMC4 without any idea about the other games and I had a good enough time.

The plot, in a nutshell - Space pope steals your girl and dante is a badass

Edit: also, kill this huge naked statue of jesus

[daroga]

Space Pope? Naked Jesus? Obviosuly this game is quite the religious learning tool. That'll be a tax write-off, right? ;)

[The Mana Knight]

Uhh, DMC is way more story oriented then Ninja Gaiden. That's the reason I prefer DMC over NG, story. I like lots of it. If I created an action game, I'd have hour long cutscenes every 20 or so minutes. ;)

Sad to see my MGS4 sig/avatar go, but oh well.

AIM came back. I saw many others had issues too.

[daroga]

TMK, that's not an action game, then. That's a movie with some playable parts.

[botticus]

Sold: Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Bought: Etrian Odyssey II

Much better.

And I did order the Okami art book. Before finding out the delivery guys couldn't fit my comfy couch in the house. Time to regroup.

[zewone]

I beat DMC1 when it first came out. Never played 2 or 3 and I didn't have any trouble getting into DMC4. It's just crazy nonsense.

[The Mana Knight]

The first DMC was the only one I beat. The 2nd one, I just couldn't get myself to ever play again, while I got stuck on a boss in the third one.

[MarkMan]

I love DMC games. 3 is still my fave action wise. But the elements introduced in 4 were good too.

DMC2 -_-

lol.

[zewone]

The first DMC was the only one I beat. The 2nd one, I just couldn't get myself to ever play again, while I got stuck on a boss in the third one.

So, you've barely played them, but you have a preference of it over NG?

Could it be because NG's Xbox origins and DMC's PS2 origins?

[MarkMan]

That sounds about right zewone. I like the non online NG Sigma because I have more friends on the PSN than XBL btw.

[refusedchaos]

ive been buying a lot of jap saturn games lately (lol, dont even got a saturn)...do you guys know the best JAP and US saturn games? what would be the best way to play my jap games (since a couple are multi disc)?

[Mr. Anderson]

ive been buying a lot of jap saturn games lately (lol, dont even got a saturn)...do you guys know the best JAP and US saturn games? what would be the best way to play my jap games (since a couple are multi disc)?

There have got to be better things you can spend your money on.

[refusedchaos]

There have got to be better things you can spend your money on.

like what? i see no good games coming out for a couple of months that i wanna play

[ninja dog]

like what? i see no good games coming out for a couple of months that i wanna play


like lap dances and machine guns

[zewone]

ive been buying a lot of jap saturn games lately (lol, dont even got a saturn)...do you guys know the best JAP and US saturn games? what would be the best way to play my jap games (since a couple are multi disc)?

http://home.clara.net/robwebb/shop/saturn/ar4mplus2.jpg

[refusedchaos]

like lap dances and machine guns

ah yes, indeed. nothing like a lap dance after some MGO

[refusedchaos]

http://home.clara.net/robwebb/shop/saturn/ar4mplus2.jpg

yea ive seen that but i got that one import Macross game that i heard you can only beat it with a original jap console

[The Mana Knight]

So, you've barely played them, but you have a preference of it over NG?

Could it be because NG's Xbox origins and DMC's PS2 origins?Not really to be honest. The main reason is I actually beat the first DMC (At the time I beat it, I was no PS2 fan, Xbox was my console preference) and I did play the third one for some time. I'm half-way through the 4th. I like DMC before I've invested more time in it (the time I put into NG isn't all that much). DMC1 is easily one of my favorite action games ever and I still go back to play it (I still prefer Zone of the Enders series over anything else). The entire reason I did not buy NG or DMC3 early on was why pay $50 for a game I was going to get stuck early on in (I rented both) and just have it sit on my shelf with 500+ other games? The main reason I was able to get into DMC more was because of more storyline, and storyline is very important to me in an action game. It also helps that I really like vampires, castles, etc. NG2 on the other hand has much more story (based on what I played on the demo), so I'm definitely wanting it. However, every once in a while there's an exception (because I absolutely love Gun Valkyrie on the original Xbox and beat it numerous times).

Originating on PlayStation means nothing, because I liked Panzer Dragoon Orta on Xbox more than any of those games (I know its a different genre). I definitely liked NG more than Nightshade and Shinobi on PS2. And I still despite GTA games despite being a huge success on PS2.

[Mr. Anderson]

I did mean outside of video games, or maybe saving it, but it's your money. I used to spend insane amounts of cash on video games, and it really has done nothing for me in the end.

[gunm]

ive been buying a lot of jap saturn games lately (lol, dont even got a saturn)...do you guys know the best JAP and US saturn games? what would be the best way to play my jap games (since a couple are multi disc)?

What genre do you like? I only have 2D shooters and fighting games, of which Saturn is awesome for. But there's a few RPGs and puzzlers that are good (if a bit dated) too.

And I'd pick up what zew suggests from somewhere's like PA. The cart will not only bypass region-lock, but it will help you play certain games that need more memory.

Check out racketboy.com for some summaries and ideas of different popular and genre-leading titles for Saturn.

[The Mana Knight]

There have got to be better things you can spend your money on.Not really. ;) I can understand the reasoning.

I did mean outside of video games, or maybe saving it, but it's your money. I used to spend insane amounts of cash on video games, and it really has done nothing for me in the end.I've spent a lot of money on games, but we're all gamers here, aren't we? ;)

Played MGS4 for around an hour ago. I'll play SingStar or MGS4 after I come home from going out tonight.

[refusedchaos]

What genre do you like? I only have 2D shooters and fighting games, of which Saturn is awesome for. But there's a few RPGs and puzzlers that are good (if a bit dated) too.

And I'd pick up what zew suggests from somewhere's like PA. The cart will not only bypass region-lock, but it will help you play certain games that need more memory.

Check out racketboy.com for some summaries and ideas of different popular and genre-leading titles for Saturn.


shooters, rpgs, fighters, mech action...anything rly....

yea ill pick up the ram for sure..though it seems i finish Macross Do You Remember Love? with it

I did mean outside of video games, or maybe saving it, but it's your money. I used to spend insane amounts of cash on video games, and it really has done nothing for me in the end.
yea i do already. i go to concerts, shop for anime, go out with friends and my girlfriend, etc....but its game time.

[dmaul1114]

Not really. ;) I can understand the reasoning.


There's always better things to do with money than to spend it on games or other hobbies.

Saving for down payment on house, saving for retirement, saving for emergencies, saving for child's education, making needed home improvements.

You'll learn this once you're not in college or living with your parents. The key's to learn to budget so you can still enjoy hobbies but also have enough money saved up for all the important things in life.

[daroga]

oh hai guyz!

Alright, so I might have convinced my wife that these (http://www.whatisblik.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=B&Product_Code=NIN-SMB1) would be fun, so I've done a test layout based on a crappy picture of our basement wall. Thoughts?

http://daroga.org/tvroom1.jpg

[Chacrana]

Badass!!

[refusedchaos]

There's always better things to do with money than to spend it on games or other hobbies.

Saving for down payment on house, saving for retirement, saving for emergencies, saving for child's education, making needed home improvements.

You'll learn this once you're not in college or living with your parents. The key's to learn to budget so you can still enjoy hobbies but also have enough money saved up for all the important things in life.

well i already have a saving account that i put $20 a week into...so i think im good;)

[daroga]

The orange lines are speaker stands and the blue box is a subwoofer stand in.

And then, if the wall could be painted blue like this... (http://www.daroga.org/mariowall.jpg)

[blueshinra]

oh hai guyz!

Alright, so I might have convinced my wife that these (http://www.whatisblik.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=B&Product_Code=NIN-SMB1) would be fun, so I've done a test layout based on a crappy picture of our basement wall. Thoughts?

http://daroga.org/tvroom1.jpg

The orange lines are speaker stands and the blue box is a subwoofer stand in.

And then, if the wall could be painted blue like this... (http://www.daroga.org/mariowall.jpg)

Oh man, that is so geeky (and yes, paint the wall blue!). I love it, but would never do that myself >_>

I've been playing Klonoa 2 (the PS2 one) lately. I'm really enjoying it, so of course I did fanart (http://BlueShinra.deviantart.com/art/Klonoa-of-the-Wind-88904184).

[The Mana Knight]

oh hai guyz!

Alright, so I might have convinced my wife that these (http://www.whatisblik.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=B&Product_Code=NIN-SMB1) would be fun, so I've done a test layout based on a crappy picture of our basement wall. Thoughts?

http://daroga.org/tvroom1.jpgSounds awesome to me. :D

There's always better things to do with money than to spend it on games or other hobbies.

Saving for down payment on house, saving for retirement, saving for emergencies, saving for child's education, making needed home improvements.

You'll learn this once you're not in college or living with your parents. The key's to learn to budget so you can still enjoy hobbies but also have enough money saved up for all the important things in life.I honestly have no idea when I'll get a house. It's not on my mind right now. Retirement isn't exactly on my mind, since I probably won't live much longer. Saving for emergencies sounds good, but won't get into that until I get a good job. I wish I could save for a child's education, but I doubt I'll ever have kids. I love kids and all, but there's not a single girl who would marry me even if I was a billionaire. :-(

Yeah, I'll be taking care of most of the stuff once I leave home and get a good job. But right now, my parents are doing almost everything for me. ;)


yea i do already. i go to concerts, shop for anime, go out with friends and my girlfriend, etc....but its game time.The only thing I do is look/shop for anime. I totally forgot the last time I went out with friends. Last time I went out with friends, away from campus, was 5 years ago. Never been to a concert in my life.

Although, I'm a bit bored a lot and don't feel like playing games all day right now. I cannot get a job until around August.

Hmm, it's been a while since I played some classic games. I might go down my basement and play some old SNES games this week.


I've been playing Klonoa 2 (the PS2 one) lately. I'm really enjoying it, so of course I did fanart (http://BlueShinra.deviantart.com/art/Klonoa-of-the-Wind-88904184).Klonona 2 is awesome. I really like the game (PS2 one). :D

[mrchainsaw]

Retirement isn't exactly on my mind, since I probably won't live much longer.
Terminal illness?

I haven't been playing many games lately because I have to relearn chemistry for a placement test even though I got a 4 on my AP test last year. Explain that to me.

[Chibi_Kaji]

After pre-ordering Yggdra Union for the PSP( I never got around to picking up the GBA version), I started thinking about replaying Riviera: The Promised Land... But I'm not really sure if I should right now.

[MarkMan]

daroga, that is so awesome. I think I'm going to do that myself!

TMK: Didn't know you were a big vampire fan. Although I don't know why, I too am drawn to vampiric stuff. Vampires are fuckin' awesome. I've seen like almost every vampire movie/anime there is. lol.

While on the subject of anime, I've been watching quite a few series as of late... Code Geass R2, Vampire Knight, Claymore , rewatching Gundam 0080, Macross Frontier, Persona Trinity Soul, watching some classic Hokuto No Ken among other series... But what I really want to see/can't wait for is GUNDAM 00 S2. CAN'T WAIT. BTW, although Macross Frontier is relatively new, I think it has one of the best OSTs in quite some time. Go Yoko Kanno! (Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne Movie, Turn A Gundam, etc.)

Back to video games.

NES.

Also, I am so pumped for STREET FIGHTER IV.

I think my gunmetal PS3s came in today, I hope to have a nice surprise when I get home later!

[The Mana Knight]

After pre-ordering Yggdra Union for the PSP( I never got around to picking up the GBA version), I started thinking about replaying Riviera: The Promised Land... But I'm not really sure if I should right now.It's up for preorder? I didn't know, but I shouldn't buy. I'm suppose to be getting rid of games.
Terminal illness?

I just don't take care of myself too well and have some poor health. Like I constantly eat too much junk food and drink too much pop (I'm skinny, but have that problem) and rarely eat healthy.



TMK: Didn't know you were a big vampire fan. Although I don't know why, I too am drawn to vampiric stuff. Vampires are fuckin' awesome. I've seen like almost every vampire movie/anime there is. lol.
Let's just say I like Vampires in games. I liked the Legacy of Kain Blood Omen games, DMC, Casltevania, etc. type games. I dunno, I just love the setting and slaying vampires in games.

OMG, Eric Lempel confirms Firmware 2.4 himself, but 2.36 comes first.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/17/firmware-v236-coming-soon-v240-to-include-trophies-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comments

[zewone]

OMG indeed.

[Chibi_Kaji]

But what I really want to see/can't wait for is GUNDAM 00 S2. CAN'T WAIT. BTW, although Macross Frontier is relatively new, I think it has one of the best OSTs in quite some time. Go Yoko Kanno! (Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne Movie, Turn A Gundam, etc.)
Yeah, I really liked the 1st season of 00. But most of all I look forward to see more Sumeragi... She's like the love child of Bright Noa and Misato Katsuragi. Also did Macross Frontier air last week? I need my Pixie Squad fix...

It's up for preorder? I didn't know, but I shouldn't buy. I'm suppose to be getting rid of games.

Yeah, I really need to cut back on my game purchases as well. afterall I did just buy a PS3 a week ago...

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Ahhhh, fuck me. Working out=HATE.

[Chacrana]

OMG, Eric Lempel confirms Firmware 2.4 himself, but 2.36 comes first.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/17/firmware-v236-coming-soon-v240-to-include-trophies-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comments

Who even cares about 2.36 then? All the shit people would give a damn about is in the (hopefully) next release.



I got the Xbox people to cancel my gold subscription after about 8 emails, but I still can't get on XBL coz my account's suspended becoz I didn't pay :(

I still don't intend to resubscribe to Gold until maybe November, so I guess I won't be updating my 360 anytime soon.

[dmaul1114]

I just don't take care of myself too well and have some poor health. Like I constantly eat too much junk food and drink too much pop (I'm skinny, but have that problem) and rarely eat healthy.


Damn dude, you need to get some help. Sounds like you have serious depression, given that you don't take care of yourself, bluntly say you probably won't live much longer, have totally given up on dating etc.

Get some help. Get your life on track. First step is to admit you have a problem and need help. Nobody can help you change if you don't want to change.

[daroga]

dmaul, how you liking Crackdown? It remains the open world game I've enjoyed the most. GTA4 was a bit too "real" to be especially fun for me. I loved the super hero aspect of CD.

[dmaul1114]

dmaul, how you liking Crackdown? It remains the open world game I've enjoyed the most. GTA4 was a bit too "real" to be especially fun for me. I loved the super hero aspect of CD.

I'm enjoying it a lot so far. Still working on the first gang--one general and a mob boss left.

The Superhero aspect definitely makes a difference. It's fun as hell jumping from building to building, and addictive to try to build up your stats so you can do more crazy stuff.

[refusedchaos]

playing GunValkyrie right now...fuck i hate inverted controls -_-

TMK: hang in there.

[zewone]

Too bad there wasn't much of anything to do in Crackdown.

[RelentlessRolento]

bleh... spanish homework all night for me... will be listening to MGS4 soundtrack while I do it.

[The Mana Knight]

playing GunValkyrie right now...fuck i hate inverted controls -_-

TMK: hang in there.I had no problems with the controls like most people, but then again, I always use inverted controls for my FPS and action games I have to aim.

[RelentlessRolento]

I only can play FPS and 3PSs with inverted camera. blame Goldeneye and Turok.

[nyprimus4]

No finals tomorrow, thinking about renting Heavenly Sword.

[pete5883]

Saving for down payment on house, saving for retirement, saving for emergencies, saving for child's education, making needed home improvements.
lol @ saving for retirement. Old people can't do anything fun, I'm better off spending it on my young self.

[refusedchaos]

I had no problems with the controls like most people, but then again, I always use inverted controls for my FPS and action games I have to aim.

yea but i got used to regular when playing COD4 and Gears of War

[dmaul1114]

lol @ saving for retirement. Old people can't do anything fun, I'm better off spending it on my young self.

Save more and you can retire younger when you can still do fun stuff. Seems like most here don't do anything but surf the net and play games...not like you need to be young to do that. ;)

You'll be singing a different tune when you're in your 60's and can't even think of doing anything other than working full time to pay the bills.

[nyprimus4]

:360:
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
Call of Duty: World at War
Far Cry 2
FIFA 09
Gears of War 2
Left 4 Dead
Madden 09
Mirror's Edge
NHL 09
Tales of Vesperia

:ps3:
inFamous
LittleBigPlanet
Resistance 2
Socom Confrontation
Tekken 6
White Knight Chronicles

:br:
40 Year Old Virgin
Batman Begins
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay
Kill Bill: Vol. 1
Kill Bill: Vol. 2
Knocked Up
Transformers

What is everyone else looking forward to for the rest of 2008?

[dmaul1114]

:360:
What is everyone else looking forward to for the rest of 2008?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186271

[SL4IN]

:360:
Fable 2

:pc:
Fallout 3
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Skies

:ds:
Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Pokemon Platinum (japanese of course)

That's gonna do it for me for the rest of the year.

[refusedchaos]

:360:
Operation Darkness
Gears of War 2
Spectral Force 3
Tales of Vesparia
Infinite Undiscovery
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Mobile Ops: The One Year War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:ps3:
Dead Space
Midnight Club: Los Angeles
Overlord Raising Hell
Soul Calibur IV (HD tigo bittes!)
LittleBigPlanet
Mirror's Edge
Resistance 2
Socom Confrontation
Tekken 6
Borderlands
Highlander (though ill probably rent this one)
White Knight Chronicles
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Fallout 3

[blueshinra]

What is everyone else looking forward to for the rest of 2008?
Not much. The two unreleased games I want the most (Animal Crossing Wii and StarCraft 2) might be out before the end of the year, but nothing's confirmed. Can't wait for E3...

My next new game purchase will most likely be FFTA2. I can wait for price drops on just about everything else I'm interested in at the moment. Hell, I'll probably wait on a price drop for FFTA2 as well, since it's gonna be FORTY FuckING DOLLARS.

ETA: Found out about this (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/sims-2-ikea/) today. I don't play the Sims, but I love IKEA, and think this expansion pack is both weird and awesome.

[JEKKI]

What is everyone else looking forward to for the rest of 2008?sheeeeyit...

Silent Hill 5
Silent Hill 5
Silent Hill 5
Silent Hill 5
Silent Hill 5
Dragon Warrior 4
Valkyrie Chronicles
Silent Hill 5

more importantly, STILL lookin forward to Karous/Radilgy/ChaosField collection on the Wii.

and Fragile. hella Fragile.

[The Mana Knight]

Damn dude, you need to get some help. Sounds like you have serious depression, given that you don't take care of yourself, bluntly say you probably won't live much longer, have totally given up on dating etc.

Get some help. Get your life on track. First step is to admit you have a problem and need help. Nobody can help you change if you don't want to change.If you were to hear my story (I may PM you about it one day when I feel like writing), you'd understand why I feel this way. When you have very controlling parents (even at my age) along with being quite behind in life, it's not really possible to change.

Anyway, this is what I want. I did not list Tekken 6 since I assume it's not coming out this year (although I could be wrong):

:ps3:
1. Valkyria Chronicles (1st or 2nd most wanted)
2. Wipeout HD (PSN)
3. LittleBigPlanet
4. Disgaea 3
5. MotorStorm Pacific Rift
6. SingStar Volume 2
7. Siren: Blood Curse (PSN)
8. Resistance 2
9. Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
10. Socom Confrontation
11. Buzz: Quiz Show (I want to try it)
12. Fatal Inertia EX (PSN), liked the demo on JP PSN

:360:
1. Tales of Vespiria (1st or 2nd most wanted)
2. Infinite Indiscovery
3. Soul Calibur (XBLA)
4. Banjo: Nuts & Bolts
5. Spectral Force 3 (maybe, but very unlikely)
6. Guilty Gear 2: Overture (maybe)

:wii:
1. Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
2. Bomberman (Wii Ware)
3. Samba DeAmigo
4. Fatal Frame IV

Multi
1. Battle Fantasia :ps3:
2. Soul Calibur IV :ps3:
3. Sonic Unleased (undecided)

:psp:
1. Star Ocean: First Departure
2. Star ocean: 2nd Evolution
3. Secret Agent Clank
4. Ygdra Union
5. Naruto Ultimate Ninja Heroes 2

:ds:
1. Final Fantasy Tactics A2
2. Final Fantasy IV
3. Dragon Quest IV

:ps2:
If Ar Tonelico 2 comes stateside or I might consider picking up a SingStar.

[daroga]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/thisisinadequate.jpg

[RelentlessRolento]

I would have a list but ultimately look at I want it boils down to:

All fighting games and mostly just downloadable games.


I honestly am getting a bit tired of big budget gaming. I can see myself getting into indy gaming alot more soon.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'll take one of everything everyone else wants.

[nyprimus4]

Just turned on the PStree because I was going to bring over some ripped DVD's I had in the .mp4 format and I was prompted for the 2.36 FW.

[MarkMan]

Some new games announced in this week's Famitsu...

Macross Ace Frontier (PSP)
- To be released later this Fall by Namco Bandai
- Game covers Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Do You Remember Love?, Macross Plus, and Macross 7

Raiden IV (360)
- To be released September 2008 by Moss
- Xbox 360 exclusive mode adds extra stages to the standard arcade mode (7 in all)
- XBLA Score Rankings

[gunm]

Ooo Raiden 4.

I need some Cave 360 shooter updates. :p

[willardhaven]

I'll take one of everything everyone else wants.


Where are these dancing avatars coming from?!?

[Rei no Otaku]

Where are these dancing avatars coming from?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7XuVlOT5o

[MarkMan]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sWSwx-l9oWA

[Dark Slayer120]

Well since I dunno wtf I am talking about, Daroga just jump right into DMC4.

[Chacrana]

The Answer in Persona 3 Fes reminds me a lot of the reverse castle in Symphony of the Night... it's still really fun, but it's more or less just a palette-swapped remix of the first part of the game... with higher difficulty.

And I'm a good ways into The Answer and it's still nowhere near as tough as Persona 2.

I cannot believe how much game they squeezed onto a single disc with Persona 3 FES.

I really hope Persona 4 does come out this year. I also hope the other RPGs slated for this year and next year don't suck a D. In all likelihood, Star Ocean 4 will...

[RelentlessRolento]

to be honest I have yet to find an RPG I really was dying to play or liked alot... Mass Effect is the closest I got to that, but even then I consider that a stat-action-drama-text-adventure.

also this looks like something 75% of you here might like if you own a DS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a88Yg7bq-oM

[Chacrana]

I'm literally 100% not Asian enough to play that Zelda clone.

[suko_32]

Being Asian, I kinda want to try that game.

[gunm]

So we're doing stuff we want for 2008 again?

I figure we'd wait until E3 next month, but oh well, I'll bite. Lessee...


:ps3:
Soul Calibur IV Premium
FFXIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Fallout III CE
WipeoutHD
Resistance 2
Little Big Planet
GRiD


:360:
Gears of War 2 LE
Tales of Vesperia
Fable 2
Infinite Undiscovery


:wii:
Tales of Symphonia DotNW


:ds:
Bangaio Spirits
Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Final Fantasy IV
Dragon Quest IV

[Rei no Otaku]

MGS4 has the what I think is the greatest scene in any video game.

The microwave hallway scene. I was actually yelling at the screen, tears welling up in my eyes.

[RelentlessRolento]

MGS4 has the what I think is the greatest scene in any video game.

The microwave hallway scene. I was actually yelling at the screen, tears welling up in my eyes.

also has the best reloading ever.

here it shows it (don't watch if you haven't beaten the game)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0BgGhXtjb4

[heavyd853]

Boktai~!

[Rei no Otaku]

They should have had him yell "Taiyo!!!"

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... found this on my computer... this is old thing that I did... man do I love overweight pigs!

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/SamHideoLopez/Random/spilledbend.png

[Chibi_Kaji]

MGS4 has the what I think is the greatest scene in any video game.

The microwave hallway scene. I was actually yelling at the screen, tears welling up in my eyes.
My hand was hurting too much to feel anything other then pain at the part of the game...

[The Mana Knight]

I'm literally 100% not Asian enough to play that Zelda clone.I'm not Asian, but I badly want to play that. I absolutely love anime art. It's one of my soft spots in a video game.

[guinaevere]

Alright, so I might have convinced my wife that these (http://www.whatisblik.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=B&Product_Code=NIN-SMB1) would be fun, so I've done a test layout based on a crappy picture of our basement wall. Thoughts?

http://daroga.org/tvroom1.jpgBwahhaha! Those are awesome. I'm bookmarking the New Super Mario ones as they're purdier, and I may pick them up for the entertainment room.



Okay guys. Everyone behaving? Keeping the GGTs game-focused? More importantly, everyone miss me?

[daroga]

Things have been pure chaos without your guiding hand, Gwen. :(

[pete5883]

My rest of the year:

:ps3:
Bioshock

:psp:
n+

:ds:
DQIV

I have no interest in these huge lists the rest of you have. wtf?

I'm finding MGS4 is harder for me the 2nd time through. Embarassingly.

[RelentlessRolento]

daroga, would you consider doing those wall things but of SMB3? everyone seems to do SMB1 wall stuff but I never see SMB3 stuff... just a thought. whatever you want.

[Dandeschain]

AWESOME. My roomate went to chicago to see them about a week ago and had a great time. They got the tickets way ahead of time and I couldn't get in on it, but i'm sure you'll get your face rocked off. Bruce Dickenson is still a madman, i don't know how he still does it.

Monoprice sent me 3 DVI-HDMI cables instead of just one and said keep them. Anybody need one?

Damn, Maiden was unbelievable. I've been waiting a long time to see them. Bruce is a madman for sure. I sing for a band, and I have no idea how he does that night in and night out and always sounds killer. Setlist was filled with everything you would want to hear at a Maiden show. I'll take one of your cables if you still have the extras.

Games I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.

:360:
Infinite Undiscovery
The Last Remnant
Maybe SO4
Super Street Fighter HD
SFIV
1942 Joint Strike

:psp:
Star Ocean remakes

:ds:
Dragon Quest IV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[daroga]

daroga, would you consider doing those wall things but of SMB3? everyone seems to do SMB1 wall stuff but I never see SMB3 stuff... just a thought. whatever you want.I would do Mario 3 over Mario 1 in heartbeat, but only Mario 1, NSMB, and Donkey Kong are available.

Mario 3 >>>>>> Mario 1 ;)

[The Mana Knight]

Damn, Maiden was unbelievable. I've been waiting a long time to see them. Bruce is a madman for sure. I sing for a band, and I have no idea how he does that night in and night out and always sounds killer. Setlist was filled with everything you would want to hear at a Maiden show. I'll take one of your cables if you still have the extras.

Games I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.

:360:
Infinite Undiscovery
The Last Remnant
Maybe SO4
Super Street Fighter HD
SFIV
1942 Joint Strike

:psp:
Star Ocean remakes

:ds:
Dragon Quest IV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO4 is a 2009 game, which is why I do not list it. LR might be this year, buy Square Enix referred to Winter (Winter means December through early March, I'm guessing Jan./Feb.

I'm playing DMC4 right now, but I realized I definitely am stuck on a spot, so I'll have to look at GameFAQs for assistance.

[Krymner]

Damn, I just found out this morning that one of my best friends from way back may have commited suicide. They aren't saying it is definate yet, but all signs are pointing to suicide. I haven't seen or talked to the guy for years tho, but he and I had been buds since 5th grade and we went thru alot together, including being roommates for a few years. We had kind of had a falling out about 4 years ago about the way he walked out on his 2nd wife and his son, but we didn't exchange any harsh words or anything. I always believed we would find each other again some day (my parents and his still live about a mile away from each other).

Started up Persona 3 Fes to try and get my mind off it. I really like the art style and general presentation, but I only just explored the first floor of Tarterus so I'm still getting a feel for the gameplay aspect. So far the only thing that I could complain about is that the voice acting is a little iffy at times. Otherwise, I think its gonna be a fun RPG to keep me occupied for awhile.

Oh, and Botticus! How is Etrian Odyssey II?? I'm really considering picking it up. Even tho I haven't finished the first one yet, it was such a bitch to find that I think I may go ahead and grab it while it is available.

[botticus]

Oh, and Botticus! How is Etrian Odyssey II?? I'm really considering picking it up. Even tho I haven't finished the first one yet, it was such a bitch to find that I think I may go ahead and grab it while it is available.So far better than the first in every way. It really does feel like more of an expansion, but all the things that annoyed you in the first game are probably fixed.

Finally started into the labyrinth, cleared the first floor after restarting a couple times trying to pick out a good party.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Trying to get through MGS4 with no alerts is taking a while... Right now I'm REALLY dreading getting to act 4. It will probably make me cry a few times...

Also games I'm looking forward for the rest of the year.
:wii:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

:ds:
Disgaea
Trauma Center 2
Final Fantasy IV

:psp:
Yggdra Union

:360:
Soul Calibur IV
Tales of Vesperia

:ps3:
Disgaea 3
Valkyrie Chronicles

[Krymner]

So far better than the first in every way. It really does feel like more of an expansion, but all the things that annoyed you in the first game are probably fixed.

Finally started into the labyrinth, cleared the first floor after restarting a couple times trying to pick out a good party.

That is very good to hear. I might go ahead and grab it this weekend then. I'm just on B19 of EO 1, so I'm closing in. I usually only play about 10-20 minutes of it before bed, since it is an awesome tool to help my mind wind down and get to sleep.

[benjamouth]

Well Dell cancelled my PS3 order, and as an added touch of douch-baggery then won't give me back the $75 Dell dollars I used to pay for it, excellent.

So now not only are Dell dead to me , but so is the PS3. Not that it's Sony's fault that Dell shafted me, but it is their fault that they can't provide a decent amount of stock, so they can shove that triple were the sun doesn't shine

/rant

Mind you reading Krymner's post puts my own minor problems into perspective at least.

[The Mana Knight]

Well Dell cancelled my PS3 order, and as an added touch of douch-baggery then won't give me back the $75 Dell dollars I used to pay for it, excellent.

So now not only are Dell dead to me , but so is the PS3. Not that it's Sony's fault that Dell shafted me, but it is their fault that they can't provide a decent amount of stock, so they can shove that triple were the sun doesn't shine

/rant

Mind you reading Krymner's post puts my own minor problems into perspective at least.There's a recent thread at GAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313967) about them having more shipments later on. Reasons for the limited shipment were:
-SCEA could not bundle MGS4 until Konami finished printing the game (which did not happen until two or so weeks before release.
-The 80GB consoles currently used are indeed using the original motherboards they had lying around and components. Starting back production on it takes a while. And there's no way SCEA will ever release a flood of the 80GB consoles, for one main reason, they lose money on it (along with them trying to stick to having one SKU on store shelves, where it appears they will occasionally release an 80GB, but that's it, it will always be a limited SKU since Sony no longer wants to be the most expensive).

There is a chance the 40GB will play PS2 games one day (rumors of a firmware upgrade to make it happen are around). Also, SCEJ was looking for people to work on PS2 emulation. The only thing that makes it uncertain is the PS2's GS has an insane fill rate, which cannot easily be duplicated.

I made a really long explanation as to what it is Sony has been thinking, but I doubt you'd be interested in hearing. But if you are interested in one, they will come again later this month.

[MarkMan]

I'm playing DMC4 right now, but I realized I definitely am stuck on a spot, so I'll have to look at GameFAQs for assistance.

X_X How do you get stuck in DMC4?! What part are you at? Game was pretty straightforward (for me at least)...

Good morning everyone!

NES

[The Mana Knight]

X_X How do you get stuck in DMC4?! What part are you at? Game was pretty straightforward (for me at least)...

Good morning everyone!

NESI'm on Mission 10, and the problem seems to be where I hit a switch to slow down the beams. So I slowdown the first set, go through it. Then I go through the second set and end up in an area for a thing (forget what it's called) where I have to swing my sword several times to make blue flames appear, and once all appear, it's activated. That's where I am, but cannot figure out where to advance. Sorry, I forget many of the terminology (I play so many games and it has been a while since I played). When I start to head back, I end up where I started the level at (it seems like the thing I activated, did nothing). I just cannot find anywhere to go.

[Kendal]

So I played a few matches of MGO last night. But none counted due to a shitty connection with the host and the game error out after winning both games. I don't think I will be playing that much. I love the game, but until it gets patched, I am done.

[SL4IN]

Almost picked up Lost Planet Colonies last night for $20 on 360 at my local wal-mart last night. Worth it? or should I just grab the pc version because it's that much better.

[botticus]

There is a chance the 40GB will play PS2 games one day (rumors of a firmware upgrade to make it happen are around). Also, SCEJ was looking for people to work on PS2 emulation. The only thing that makes it uncertain is the PS2's GS has an insane fill rate, which cannot easily be duplicated.
That reminds me that the GameStop dude told a guy who was looking for the MGS bundle that 40GBs will play PS2 games now. Luckily they guy was didn't give a shit and I haven't really been paying attention to such things or I would have had to speak up.

[daroga]

Sheesh, the onkyo 606 dropped like $40 overnight. Order time. Thanks, Amazon!

[blueshinra]

Good afternoon, all. Krymner: Sorry to hear about that :(

Living room was a mess, so I cleaned it up some. Also, my birthday's coming up soon and I'd like to get the FFVII Play Arts Vol. 2 figures (Sephiroth, Vincent, Yuffie, and Red XIII and Cait Sith [w/o moogle]... the Squeenix Online Merch Shop has them in stock now) as a present to myself, but I'm broke.

Almost done with Klonoa 2. That's it for now.

[Dark Slayer120]

*Wow* I beat MGS4 last night.... *Wow* What an amazing game, I am already planning on a second play through as well. Since some parts of the story I didn't understand/missed some of it so replaying it and focusing more on it will help. I have to say Act 4 and Act 5 were the best acts in the game. Both were so fucking awesome for totally different reasons. I am sad that it's over, I agree with game spots complaint which is "It ends" One thing I wish would of happened is Snake thanking Raiden for all he did for him. I mean the dude saved his ass more then once, and I was expecting Snake to thank him at least one time during the game. (Act 5) I mean hell Raiden thanked Snake for talking him out of going deeper into the microwave room, and locking the door. At least Snake could of done was thank Raiden for saving him.

Also can someone tell me this How did Snake miss shooting himself at the end? I mean you clearly hear the gun as it end his mouth, so I thought for sure he shot himself. I missed what he said when it came back to the scene with him on the ground drenched with tears. So can someone just let me know that.


MGS4 has the what I think is the greatest scene in any video game.

The microwave hallway scene. I was actually yelling at the screen, tears welling up in my eyes.


Rei: Same here my friend, that was one of my favorite scenes ever. I had tears in my eyes yelling at snake and slamming triangle saying "Cmon Snake go! You can't let all these people down! You can't let Raiden down, mother fucker saved your life, now save his!! Great scene.

[jer7583]

I would have been pissed if i had missed out on the 80gb too- apparently that's the last of them, and the 40GB sucks. I've already used like 30gb on mine and I only have two games.. Sony is stupid for not having a 80gb with 60gb insides.

The PS2 emulation sucks on the 80, I'm going to have to keep my PS2, it seems. Most PS2 games look really muddy and bad. Doesn't upscale like the 360 does on its backwards compatability emulation..

[daroga]

wait, the 80 doesn't upscale? Sure it's not just turned off? That was a feature added into the firmware for the 20/60 models when the 80 came on the scene I thought.

[jer7583]

it sort of does, but it looks really blurry and a bit crap. I play counterstrike on 360 with BC a lot and it comes out a lot sharper.

[Krymner]

One thing I wish would of happened is Snake thanking Raiden for all he did for him. I mean the dude saved his ass more then once, and I was expecting Snake to thank him at least one time during the game. (Act 5) I mean hell Raiden thanked Snake for talking him out of going deeper into the microwave room, and locking the door. At least Snake could of done was thank Raiden for saving him.

Yeah, I agree. It's almost as if by his silence, Snake was saying "Meh, I could have done it myself. Frank was a better Ninja in MGS1, you hose."

Also can someone tell me this How did Snake miss shooting himself at the end? I mean you clearly hear the gun as it end his mouth, so I thought for sure he shot himself. I missed what he said when it came back to the scene with him on the ground drenched with tears. So can someone just let me know that.

My guess is that he just pulled the gun out of his mouth at the last second and shot up into the air. That, or he is just really bad ass and eats bullets like candy. I can't remember what he said, but maybe it was something like "Mmm, tastes like Skittles."

[zewone]

The upscaling is just better in the 360, daroga.

[The Mana Knight]

wait, the 80 doesn't upscale? Sure it's not just turned off? That was a feature added into the firmware for the 20/60 models when the 80 came on the scene I thought.The 80GB PS3 upscales. All PS3 models upscale PS/PS2 games, just check the resolution settings. However, to do the upscaling, you gotta enable it.
Almost picked up Lost Planet Colonies last night for $20 on 360 at my local wal-mart last night. Worth it? or should I just grab the pc version because it's that much better.

Sounds like a great price to me. I want the game, but never saw it that cheap. That's actually about the price I'll sell two certain games to you also sometime. ;) I was at Wal-Mart today, but didn't really bother paying attention.
it sort of does, but it looks really blurry and a bit crap. I play counterstrike on 360 with BC a lot and it comes out a lot sharper.Upscaling quality varies by game. The 360 does have a hardware scaler that helps, while the PS3 only has a horizontal scaler (they have to use the power of the cell to do it I believe). DVD upscaling on PS3 is great, but PS/PS2 upscaling varies. 2D games like the Atelier Iris series, Shining Tears, etc. look fantastic with the upscaling. A game like DMC3 and a few others look terrible upscaled. Part of the reason for the varying qualities is PS3 uses a general upscaler/EE emulator (for the 80GB). It's not like they try upscaling each game individually, it's more of a general upscaler (due to different graphic engines, some games will look better, some worse, some no difference). That is why for some games, you'll need to remove the smoothing to look decent (some games just look too blurry, while some games need the blurring or they'll look too jagged).
The upscaling is just better in the 360, daroga.But it plays a smaller percentage of Xbox games when compared to the 20GB/60GB/80GB PS3 SKUs. That's the trade-off you get for more dedicated upscaling. It's like,

On PS3, since there is some hardware used for PS2 BC (80GB just has the EE emulated, but still requires the GS and its corresponding components). By having hardware, there isn't much you can do to improve the quality. As in upscaling, all they do is stretch the image and apply a smoother (since HDTVs like AA).

On 360, since each game is emulated separately, while being emulated, MS can upscale each game individually to its best setting. But at the same time, going with this method, also means fewer Xbox games becoming BC.

Since I'm not a fan of either, I just stopped caring about playing Xbox games on my 360 (half my games work) and PS2 games on my PS3. I will admit, I do tell people to not buy a PS3 just for PS2 upscaling (if they never had a PS2 and want to play PS2 games on PS3, that's understandable, or just want to have less devices sitting around).

[Rei no Otaku]

The PS3 upscaling looks fine for me. Definitely looks better than when I use my PS2 with component cables.

The 360 upscaling is good, I just wish it did widescreen like the PS3 does.

[jer7583]

The 80GB PS3 upscales. All PS3 models upscale PS/PS2 games in an inferior manner to the 360.

fixed that for you. PS2 games look like a blurry mess on PS3.

[daroga]

jer, some games are better than others. For instance, God of War 1 looks better in just it's normal progressive scan mode than in upscaling, whereas the upscaling really cleans up other games.

It's kinda weird, but you need to experiment a bit.

[jer7583]

well MGS3, FFXII and Shadow of the Colossus all looked pretty bad, i'll try the original, non scaled mode later, though.

[Rei no Otaku]

All those games looked fine to me.

[MarkMan]

Yakuza 2 confirmed to have Japanese VA and English subs!


Authentic, cinematic sequel. The gritty, genuine portrayal of life in the Yakuza is made more realistic throughout 16 gripping chapters with a return to the original Japanese voice cast and English subtitles.

[Chacrana]

I'm just waiting for people to bitch about the lack of English voice acting now.

Make no mistake though -- this is how it should be.

[Rei no Otaku]

Anyone else getting Top Spin 3? I love my tennis games.

[zewone]

Yep. I'm definitely gettin' TS3.

[kainzero]

Tennis is one of those games I prefer playing as a videogame.

I got a real tennis racket last year and man, it feels so bad when you launch it over the fence. Even worse when you hit someone. I pretty much gave it up. =(

[The Mana Knight]

fixed that for you. PS2 games look like a blurry mess on PS3.Read my entire post Jer, I explain everything more detailed. You can turn OFF the smoother effect on the PS2 upscaling if you don't like it. Like I said, 360 has the upscaling advantage because MS has to emulate every Xbox game separately. PS2 upscaling cannot do much since the PS2 hardware is already in the PS3 (The 80GB still uses mostly hardware, although the EE is software emulated). This leads to more games being compatible, when compared to the 360. But when you get more games compatible, you also lose the ability to carefully upscale each game individually to its best results.

Seriously jer, play a game like Atelier Iris, DDR games, etc. on PS3 and try telling me the upscaling looks like crap. You're judging this based on one or a few games, and like I said, it varies. Some games DO look like crap, some LOOK nice, and some have zero difference when compared to how they'd look on an SDTV (just fitted for an HDTV). I've said this over and over again in the PS3 forum, upscaling completely varies by game.

Suikoden II comparison

This was Suikoden II without the scaling:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/SuikodenIIdown.jpg

Suikoden II with the scaling:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/SuikodenIIup.jpg


MS Saga comparison

MS Saga no up-scaling
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/MSSagadown.jpg

MS Saga w/ up-scaling:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/MSSagaUp.jpg


Just be lucky most of you didn't see how PS1/PS2 games looked on PS3 before Firmware update 1.5. They were beyond jaggy regardless of TV (that was when I had an SDTV even)

Atelier Iris Upscale:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/AIup.jpg

None of these pictures were new, I took these around a year ago when the Firmware 1.8 just went up.

[Chibi_Kaji]

*Wow* I beat MGS4 last night.... *Wow* What an amazing game, I am already planning on a second play through as well. Since some parts of the story I didn't understand/missed some of it so replaying it and focusing more on it will help. I have to say Act 4 and Act 5 were the best acts in the game. Both were so fucking awesome for totally different reasons. I am sad that it's over, I agree with game spots complaint which is "It ends" One thing I wish would of happened is Snake thanking Raiden for all he did for him. I mean the dude saved his ass more then once, and I was expecting Snake to thank him at least one time during the game. (Act 5) I mean hell Raiden thanked Snake for talking him out of going deeper into the microwave room, and locking the door. At least Snake could of done was thank Raiden for saving him.

I dunno, I get the feeling everything Raiden did for Snake in MGS4 was a thank you for helping him during the events in MGS2. So I don't think was expecting a thank you from Snake. Also Raiden thanked Snake not only for talking him out of going deeper into that microwave room, but also making him realize he did have something else to live for. Of course it took multiple talks for Snake to drill that into Raiden skull...

[whoknows]

All those games looked fine to me.

Same with me. In fact I thought MGS3 looked great upscaled.

Also Jer, if it bothers you that much just turn it off.

[JEKKI]

dood I beat MGS4 last nite dood that game was crazy!!

the bar's set!! if developers see this game and cant make a game as good they need to stay home!!

I wonder if I should try the online mode now O_o

[daroga]

Figured out how to shoot the gun, then, Jekki? ;)

EDIT: We were talking about HDMI cables before. Just found this that seemed pretty decent: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=828972

And here's a fun TV-buying chart when trying to determine 720p v. 1080p:

http://comcal.wboc.com/img/resvsdist.jpg

[The Mana Knight]

jer, some games are better than others. For instance, God of War 1 looks better in just it's normal progressive scan mode than in upscaling, whereas the upscaling really cleans up other games.

It's kinda weird, but you need to experiment a bit.Yeah, it's basically the same thing as me (who doesn't really drink beer) trying Miller Lite, saying it's disgusting, then assuming all beers are disgusting like Miller Lite, when some beers taste better than others. I'm no beer drinker (lol, partially because my Dad would abuse me if I started drinking), will never be one, but that's a good comparison.

Anyway, bought Secret Agent Clank today at Gamestop with the rest of my credit. I wanted it, but part of me kind of wishes I waited for FFT A2. I'll get that too eventually.

[gunm]

I'd like the old school SMB wall clings for my son's room (his birthday will be in a couple months), but I'm not sure they'll stick right since the walls aren't smooth.

Wife had to catch up on work in the main media room so no MGS4 for me last night! :( Watched some Tenacious D DVDs instead.

I wonder if I'll finish the game before I head off out of town again? Weekend in Vegas w/o the kiddies, so I'll be playing games of a different sort instead. :)

Edit: BTW did anyone try the BB photoshoots? I just heard about them offhand, but didn't actually do them. Cree-pee! I have to say, though that checking out Raging Beauty's spectacular cameltoe during the cutscenes was quite...interesting.

[JEKKI]

since I beat MGS4, my PS3 will collect dust until Silent Hill 5 comes out >_<

so.... what game should I play next??

Tales of Symphonia (GC/Wii)

or...

Persona 3 FES (episode Aegis)

?????

more classic jpop!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTBrcW65zA

[nyprimus4]

I rented Heavenly Sword and all I can say is WOW. This is like a movie, the cutscenes are amazing, and the gameplay is just button smashing but somehow still satisfying.

[The Mana Knight]

Figured out how to shoot the gun, then, Jekki? ;)

EDIT: We were talking about HDMI cables before. Just found this that seemed pretty decent: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=828972

And here's a fun TV-buying chart when trying to determine 720p v. 1080p:

http://comcal.wboc.com/img/resvsdist.jpgI've seen the chart too. Pretty good. I sit quite close to the TV though, so my results are a bit different. I looked into it when considering new TVs, but then I had one given to me.

[jer7583]

I will never play a game with as silly a title as Atelier Iris. lol.

I'll try that stuff when i get home tonight, thanks for the help, fellas.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, that chart is a good one, though it seems a bit more favorable of 1080p than others I've seen (which suggested not much difference until under 10 feet). I sit about 10.5 feet from my 50" TV, so I just went with 720p. It wasn't worth the extra cost last summer to go to a 720p model as I couldn't tell a difference standing 10-11 feet from the sets.

Again the real test is just to go look for yourself--different people are more picky and can more easily see the differences. I'm not a videophile at all, so I'm not very critical on such things.

[Krymner]

I'm really digging P3fes now. It has its hooks in me. I played for like 4 hours and looked at the time and was shocked. I got some o dat ADD so me playing any game for more than an hour or two is very surprising to me.

And nyprimus, I've played the Heavenly Sword demo and was quite impressed, even tho it was very short. Is the rest of the game pretty similar? I think Rei said he liked it, but I've heard some mixed impressions.

[nyprimus4]

And nyprimus, I've played the Heavenly Sword demo and was quite impressed, even tho it was very short. Is the rest of the game pretty similar? I think Rei said he liked it, but I've heard some mixed impressions.
I've played two levels. The rest of the game is sort of similar. The first level is fighting in the middle of this fort then the second level you take Nariko's sister and start shooting arrows at enemies that you can direct with SIXAXIS controls. It is pretty cool but like I said I rented it. This game is supposed to be VERY short.


I've planned out a speaker system that will last me through college. (HS senior in September) It will probably cost me a third of my summer job's pay.

Receiver - Yamaha RX-V663
Does the same job as the Onkyo 6 series with lossless codecs from Blu-rays and upscaling from standard sources but supposedly runs much cooler.

Fronts - Paradigm Atom Monitors
My Dad has floorstanding Paradigm fronts in our family room/HT and Paradigm is thee company for speakers.

Center - Paradigm CC-190
*See fronts*

Steal Dad's old sub and fronts(to use as surrounds)
They should be stop gaps until I can afford Paradigm Titans to use as fronts and I can relegate the Atoms to surrounds and his old sub is just fine.

Should be $350 for the receiver, $250 for the Atoms, and $200 for the CC-190.

[Chacrana]

IMO, Paradigm really isn't worth it until you get into their high-end stuff... the studio speakers and all that nonsense. With the entry level stuff, you'd be better off going with a different company.

[Rei no Otaku]

And nyprimus, I've played the Heavenly Sword demo and was quite impressed, even tho it was very short. Is the rest of the game pretty similar? I think Rei said he liked it, but I've heard some mixed impressions.
I really enjoyed Heavenly Sword. It's definitely short, but it's a great experience. The gameplay was fun, especially when you play as Kai, and the acting and animations were top notch. The story was also interesting.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

(HS senior in September)

.

High-five!

High School Seniors-to-be represent!

[nyprimus4]

IMO, Paradigm really isn't worth it until you get into their high-end stuff... the studio speakers and all that nonsense. With the entry level stuff, you'd be better off going with a different company.
What would you recommend? In terms of a bedroom and dorm room set-up. Keep in mind I'm on a budget but if something is really worth it I can deal. I would prefer to spend less though as my made up $800 budget is probably already pushing it. I'm kind of set on the Yamaha V663 receiver though. I'm willing to buy everything at once or even just a receiver and fronts at first.

[MarkMan]

I have a 46 inch Sony KDL46XBR2 and sit about 6-7 feet away. I too referenced that chart when I first got my new LCD around the launch of PS3. 1080p is jawesome...

JAW SOME

[nyprimus4]

High-five!

High School Seniors-to-be represent!
Nice Boone avatar! Double High-five!!

[Azumangaman]

I finish Grade 10 tomorrow at 10:10 AM.
YAY.

I also have a job for the summer.
I have 2 options though.
With the above job, I'll be working about 20 hours a week and making $1400 for the summer.
This will give me LOTS of time for games and stuff (all shifts start at 5pm or after)

OR I could get another job as well (the guy really wants me to come back) and work at a summer camp as well. Thats 40 hours a week and will net me another $1000 or less.
That will put me up to 60 hours a week, so NO free time pretty much.

What should I do?

I'm really torn, but I'm thinking Licks. It just makes more sense. Licks is a Canadian fast food chain btw, but its like a higher class McDonalds. Its noice. And the staff sing. Yay. That is the 20 hour job.

[daroga]

Possibly less than $1000 for an additional 40 hours a week? That doesn't sound like a good idea at all, if you're set on running it with the 20 hour a week job.

Can you find another 20 hour a week job that to pair with it and split the difference?

[refusedchaos]

i cant believe that people are STILL thinking that MGS4 will be ported to 360...fuck man its getting REAL annoying already. if they want to play it and dont have the money for a ps3 then they need to start sucking dick on the street corners

watching the new Futurama movie right now...eh its OK, nothing really good

[Azumangaman]

Possibly less than $1000 for an additional 40 hours a week? That doesn't sound like a good idea at all, if you're set on running it with the 20 hour a week job.

Can you find another 20 hour a week job that to pair with it and split the difference?
Yeah, its crazy. I worked there last year (I was 14, only job I could get), and made $725 for 320 HOURS! Insanity. I applied to some other places for some part time work, and I'll keep looking around. I think that would be best.

[Krymner]

Yeah, I also highly doubt MGS4 will ever see a 360 port. There really isn't much incentive for it, and any extra-type of content will be available via PSN DLC instead of a retail disc. If anything, they may do a MGO-release for the 360, because I've been hearing rumors that the current MGO is just a prelude to something larger, but that is stretching it.

Playing some more P3. Dammit, I can't stop. Somebody help me.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Yeah, I also highly doubt MGS4 will ever see a 360 port. There really isn't much incentive for it, and any extra-type of content will be available via PSN DLC instead of a retail disc.
I wouldn't be shocked it they went with a retail release for the directors cut of MGS4(or whatever they call it). They know fans of the series will gladly pay for it. I think the DLC for MGS4 will probablyy be additional content for MGO, Cameo and MP3s/Podcasts.

[dmaul1114]

Damn you guys are making me feel old!

It's been 12 years since I was a high school senior to be!

[Krymner]

I wouldn't be shocked it they went with a retail release for the directors cut of MGS4(or whatever they call it). They know fans of the series will gladly pay for it. I think the DLC for MGS4 will probablyy be additional content for MGO(, Cameo and MP3s/Podcasts.

Some VR missions would make for some awesome DLC too. This is what I'm hoping for.

Thanks to P3, I have gotten no sleep today, and now I gotta go to work. This should be a fun night.

[pete5883]

well MGS3, FFXII and Shadow of the Colossus all looked pretty bad, i'll try the original, non scaled mode later, though.
I was very happy w/ the upscaling in P3, it looked as good as it was supposed to on an SDTV. Which is all I could really ask for. Definitely a visual improvement when I tried out VP2 as well.

Receiver - Yamaha RX-V663
Does the same job as the Onkyo 6 series with lossless codecs from Blu-rays and upscaling from standard sources but supposedly runs much cooler.
My RX-V663 can get pretty hot.

Why the hell did I download this PS3 firmware? After 20 minutes I still have 60% to go. I need my MGS4 fix!

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Nice Boone avatar! Double High-five!!

Yay! *claps*

I finish Grade 10 tomorrow at 10:10 AM.
YAY.

What the hell, I've been out of school for two weeks.

I'm having so much fun with Spore's Creature Creator, and I haven't even made a penis monster yet.

[Azumangaman]

What the hell, I've been out of school for two weeks.
.
When do you go back?
We go back on the 3rd of September...

[Jesus_S_Preston]

When do you go back?
We go back on the 3rd of September...

Uh, I think the tail end of August. Usually not too long after the 26th.

...that's my birthday.

....some present.

[Dandeschain]

Not too much gaming around here lately. I've been busy writing melody and lyrics for some new songs for my band's upcoming gig on the 28th. I did get to play some more GTA today. I've slowly been making my way through the story missions. I just unlocked Brucie's chopper ability and did the first Playboy mission. Good stuff. I've had the game since launch, but I don't get much time with it because my 2 yr old seems to enjoy quoting some of the game's nasty language so I can't play when she's around.

[ighosty]

Am sending back Assassins Creed today to gamefly; didn't beat it but I have played enough. I found it a little weird how foggy it is everywhere and how athletic and gymnastic those guards are. I wish our security guards could jump rooftop to rooftop.
Will be starting up Ninja Gaiden 2 again, and will probably end up starting MGS4 next week.

[benjamouth]

My 360 RROD'd tonight :bomb::bomb::bomb:

It's weird as it's be running fine for two years and I've had no problems with it recently, then BANG, gone. I sorta had it in my head that as it had lasted this long that maybe it wouldn't break, false sense of security mayhaps.:)

Went straight to BB and picked up a 360 Arcade pack to replace it, and jumped on their GTA IV $50 GC deal while I was there.

It's not such a bad thing though, I've got an HDMI 360 which is much quiter than my old one. I'm kinda glad my Dell order for that triple fell through, two new consoles in a week would have been a bit annoying.

EDIT - Oh and Pacman CE is the stone cold nuts, I fecking love it.

[Inf^Shini]

I was innocently browsing through GS and some customers and employees started talking about MGS4 and started splurting out so many spoilers I actually covered my ears and left the store :/

Ahhh, ruined!

[JEKKI]

man Metal Gear Online is wack.

it's nothing new that hasnt been played in portable ops or subsistence.

I wonder if I should rent that Call of Doo Doo 4 everybody talks about??

[RelentlessRolento]

I always forget that some people here still go to highschool... always throws me off by alot.


it also makes more sense on some peoples' posts.

[JEKKI]

sheeyit mang I go to True School.

it's new school and old school combined.

spoilers for tomorrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0Rvf1KO68

lol

[Dark Slayer120]

I dunno, I get the feeling everything Raiden did for Snake in MGS4 was a thank you for helping him during the events in MGS2. So I don't think was expecting a thank you from Snake. Also Raiden thanked Snake not only for talking him out of going deeper into that microwave room, but also making him realize he did have something else to live for. Of course it took multiple talks for Snake to drill that into Raiden skull...

That is true Chibi. I don't think Raiden expected a thank you, I just kinda of wanted to see Snake give him one. I could not believe it when he came into there with no fucking arms and fighting them with the sword in his mouth!!!

[RelentlessRolento]

Still, Johnny is by far my fave character in MGS4. i really hope (doubt it though) he'll be the main character if there's another metal gear.

[Dark Slayer120]

Still, Johnny is by far my fave character in MGS4. i really hope (doubt it though) he'll be the main character if there's another metal gear.

Johnny is the man, I have a lot of respect for him. As for personal favorite Raiden is my choice. I really hope he continues the series, even though I have no clue how they would.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yeah, Johnny turned out pretty cool in the end.

[MarkMan]

Yea when he didn't have the JAV mosaic on his asshole... ^_^

NES YO

GGT see ya in the mornin!

[RelentlessRolento]

I just hope he's a main character eventually because I want a game where I can shit my pants at will.

[whoknows]

I just hope he's a main character eventually because I want a game where I can shit my pants at will.

Why do it in a game when you can do it in real life!

[Dark Slayer120]

Like the Cags in that "Most embarrassing moment thread", they are all Johnny wannabe's. Shitting themselves left and right, come on man wtf would you post that?

[Rei no Otaku]

I think zew should give me his sig...

[Dark Slayer120]

Zew, give me your 360.

[whoknows]

Zew, give me a dollar.

[refusedchaos]

i was finally able to download the MGO patch, yay!

[Dark Slayer120]

Get my friend request Chaos?

[zewone]

Okay.

[refusedchaos]

Get my friend request Chaos?

yup and accepted

[Rei no Otaku]

Okay.
Seriously? lol.

[zewone]

haha, yeah, that's fine. I'll find something MGS related.

[Dark Slayer120]

Okay.

Okay awesome, please send to:


Thomas idiot
1234 I can't spell my street name wats my town, sate huh wtf is dat
Wat goes here?



yup and accepted


Awesome. 8-)

[Rei no Otaku]

haha, yeah, that's fine. I'll find something MGS related.
Wow, I was just kidding. Thanks so much! I shall treasure it always.

[zewone]

Did you save it? I'm about to take it off once you do.

[Dark Slayer120]

Zew is awesome.

[zewone]

Zew is awesome.

8-)

MGS Database is down downloadin'! Time to check it out.

[Moxio]

Zuu give me some verbatims.

[Rei no Otaku]

I saved it.

[refusedchaos]

hey why is MGO so laggy? is it just me?

[RelentlessRolento]

lag is semi in the game or it might be you... happens all the time to me... I kill a guy 3 seconds after he kills me.

[RelentlessRolento]

prepping some art for an interview I have for the guys I'm interning for... just a portfolio checkup...

made this in the last 20 min:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/SamHideoLopez/Random/loovby.png

the pink one has actually been made into a very roughly sewn stuffed plush test toy >_< looks just like it but it could improve.

[refusedchaos]

well the lag is very gay!

nice pic btw!

[The Mana Knight]

Okay awesome, please send to:


Thomas idiot
1234 I can't spell my street name wats my town, sate huh wtf is dat
Wat goes here?

Awesome. 8-)Please leave that crap out of the GGT. It's best to not make fun of people or we'll be seeing it go. It's best to keep it to PMs, IM, etc. if you want to make fun of people. You, Thomas, and others are all my PSN friends anyway. And if I need to exile people on my friends list for making me angry (or other things), I do it without hesitation.

Anyway, I was in the mood for Ridge Racer 7 last night. I ended making some progress, getting close to around 80% complete.

[nyprimus4]

WORLD WAR 2 AINT DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg-E2WZzQxE

[guinaevere]

i cant believe that people are STILL thinking that MGS4 will be ported to 360...fuck man its getting REAL annoying already. Why is it annoying?

[joe2187]

Why is it annoying?

http://www.mitchie.com/catalog/images/audacityofhope.jpg

[dmaul1114]

I don't even know that it's that. A lot of people who think it will eventually be ported don't care much about actually playing the game.

I think there's a decent chance it will get ported over sometime (maybe 40% if I had to put a number on it), but it's not out of hope to play it since I'll never buy a PS3. I couldn't give a shit less about the game as I've never liked the series. I hate stealth gameplay, hate long cut scenes, and hate non-sensical plots--so clearly the series isn't my cup of tea. :D

[The Mana Knight]

I don't even know that it's that. A lot of people who think it will eventually be ported don't care much about actually playing the game.

I think there's a decent chance it will get ported over sometime (maybe 40% if I had to put a number on it), but it's not out of hope to play it since I'll never buy a PS3. I couldn't give a shit less about the game as I've never liked the series. I hate stealth gameplay, hate long cut scenes, and hate non-sensical plots--so clearly the series isn't my cup of tea. :DI've already given my lengthy reason in the 360 forum, but let's just say, the game has sold the numbers Kojima was at least looking for (even surpassed), there's no way Kojima himself wants to bother with a port (and Konami doesn't exactly many other skilled development teams out there still, except for the Castlevania team which has their own projects), and late ports just don't sell regardless (Bioshock isn't going to sell too well on PS3). They game says exclusively on PS3 in so many places. And if there are any series Sony will fund to keep exclusive, MGS and FF are their two main priorities (they are two series which have heavily defined PlayStation).

I created my MGO character, but have not played online. I'm looking to play once I finish MGS4. I'm around 30% complete.

[dmaul1114]

I agree it would be a late port and not sell much. But Konami could farm the port out to some crappy development team, and still sell enough of the half assed port to make a profit. But Sony could shell out money to keep it exclusive--just not sure it's worthwhile to put out more money after it's sold all the consoles it's going to sell (say a year or 2 down the road) when the Playstation division has bled money all generation.

Again, if it doesn't come I couldn't care less as I hate the series.

[daroga]

It'll be ported to the 360. The quality of that port remains to be seen. Some extra compression and disc spanning would make it work just fine, though.

[The Mana Knight]

I agree it would be a late port and not sell much. But Konami could farm the port out to some crappy development team, and still sell enough of the half assed port to make a profit. But Sony could shell out money to keep it exclusive--just not sure it's worthwhile to put out more money after it's sold all the consoles it's going to sell (say a year or 2 down the road) when the Playstation division has bled money all generation.

Again, if it doesn't come I couldn't care less as I hate the series.Actually, you are not completely right about the PlayStation division bleeding money all generation. Early on, they were because the 20GB, 60GB, and partially the 80GB were losing them money (the old 20GB and 60GB lost Sony $240-$300 per console, while it's believed the 80GB loses $100). The main reason they only make the 40GB in most regions is, they don't lose anything from it (or if they do, it's just a few dollars due to retail loyalty). That was why they made the SKU, in order to break even (while they do profit from every PS2 and PSP sold). I made a post around my reason here (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4494159&postcount=19). MGS4 usually does the best in Europe, and that is where PS3 is the strongest (where it's number 2 overall, not in the U.K., but all of Europe combined). MGS is a big enough series to be exclusive (to where it can sell and break even). A franchise like Zone of the Enders (which I really want to see a new one of), it would most likely have to be multi (I don't have enough faith in the 360 or PS3 userbase along bringing in enough sales) would make perfect sense to bring to more than one platform.

I mostly want to see Kojima use the MGS4 engine for another game, but wonder what it may be. I'd love to see a new ZOE, but I kind of wonder if I'd like to see it use a MGS4 type engine, or whether I'd like it to be more anime based.
It'll be ported to the 360. The quality of that port remains to be seen. Some extra compression and disc spanning would make it work just fine, though.The difference between userbases isn't that big PS3 is ahead of 360 in Europe and Japan, but 360 has the userbase in the U.S.). Plus, remember how MGS2: Substance sold on the original Xbox? It was a late port; therefore, it did not sell. That's why Konami didn't bother porting MGS3. If MGS3 wasn't ported (only came to PC), I really doubt MGS4 will be ported. Maybe next gen, we'll see a remake on MGS4 on the next Xbox, but I doubt it. Kojima even said himself, he wants to stick MGS to PlayStation. If he makes a 360 game, it would most likely be a newer IP just for them (The entire MGS saga has been on PlayStation (except for the GBC one)) and the stories have followed. Many of those who may have been more loyal to MS (not owning a PS), may not know what's going on. The game still uses 50GB, which is quite a lot.

The game will not be ported, anytime soon, that's what I can say. Payton said himself, exclusives are needed on every console to keep competition healthy (which it does). The only thing we may get is MGS4 Sub something on PS3. I showed it before, late ports just don't sell regardless of what platform they start on. People who own a 360 will probably most likely be interested in Splinter Cell on 360 (which is exclusive, although development has been taking a while) since it will be specialized for the 360 and it's exclusive. Bioshock will be ignored on PS3 since Resistance 2 and others come out (and I guarantee no one is going to buy Overlord on PS3 either).

[linkpwns]

Daymn I threw down some halo 3 with a friend of mine and Inufaye last night. Good shit.

He kept calling my friend "DoucheRoll". We LOL'd xD

[MarkMan]

If it does get ported, Kojipro won't be doing it obviously. But don't rule it out down the road.

BTW, if anyone looks at Kojipro's main website, a piece of me is hidden in there somewhere. Can you find it? Pretty easy to spot.

[The Mana Knight]

Daymn I threw down some halo 3 with a friend of mine and Inufaye last night. Good shit.

He kept calling my friend "DoucheRoll". We LOL'd xDHehe, I heard about it. I actually want to get Halo 3 and join in some of the fun. :D

Well, I just played DMC4, and realized how stupid I was. I didn't realized I was suppose to fall down, which is why I got stuck. Unfortunately, I died because I took too many hits from the beams.

[daroga]

Late ports don't sell well, but they do sell. Whenever the revamp hits, I'm sure it'll hit both systems. Maybe a Wii port too! ;)

Space Invaders Extreme is pure win.

[Dr Mario Kart]

and late ports just don't sell regardless
Resident Evil 4
Tales of Symphonia (JP)

Overall, you're right though.

[daroga]

Is AIM is behaving for people again?

wait... looks like it's slowly coming back to life...

[guinaevere]

Nice, Joe.

A lot of people who think it will eventually be ported don't care much about actually playing the game.You think so? I think there are a lot of folks who only have a Circle and want to play the game.

Of course, I also see people in GS who trade in one system and all their games towards another system because X just came out and they want to play that and it's only on the Y. Huge waste in my opinion, because they'll want their old system back in time for game Z. I've always had every main console as there's always something that's only on that system or it's miles better on this system.

and hate non-sensical plots--I'm with you on this. Whenever a MGS game coms out, people act like Kojima is God of the Universe, and I play the games and the stories and character interactions sound like they were writen by a kid in junior high. I'm fine with being out there saving the world and facing down enemies. I even like that some enemies (fodder) are standard realistic types, while others are supervillian/ superpowered types. That's grand. But it's traditional japanese story/characters with the bleeding heart emo histories and speeches that make me want to bang my head against a wall.

Some people seem to be into that, and if so I'm glad they enjoy the games. I'd just enjoy them 100000% more if the plots/stories were written with more sanity in mind.

Mana, I read your reasons for why you feel the game won't be ported, but that doesnt answer my question. I still don't get why anyone would be bothered if other people out there hoping this game or others get ported to other systems. If they're dreaming and it never gets ported, too bad for them. If it does, good for them. Either way... why worry about it?

Is AIM is behaving for people again?I wouldn't know. Apparantly no one loves me this morning.

[benjamouth]

I agree with TMK's point about late ports. I'd hope Bioshock isn't ignored on the PS3 though, it's an amazing game.

[The Mana Knight]

Resident Evil 4
Tales of Symphonia (JP)

Overall, you're right though.In Japan and Europe (where GC had an extremely tiny userbase), they did sell. But in the U.S. (not too sure about overall), RE4 did better on GC.

ToS is understandable, since Namco pretty much had ToD2 exclusive to PS2 and ToR was coming. Putting a Tales on another platform (where most of its fans already bought one) kind of led to it performing better on PS3 in Japan (although ToS on GC is the best selling Tales due to worldwide sales). If Konami were to make an MGS exclusive to 360 early on, then make MGS4 exclusive to PS3, then I could definitely see it selling well on 360 since the fanbase was kind of put on 360 early.

The way I feel overall is, bring a games to all platforms early on, or just don't bother at all. Although I have not bought Bioshock, I'm still liking to buy it on 360 because it's cheaper (no way I want to pay $60 for an old port).

Speaking of late ports, I'm really curious as to how UT3 will do on 360. I definitely think it should do good because most of the UT fanbase (who has a console), I'd assume they own a 360 (not a PS3). But at the same time, I cannot help but think if it came out last year, it would do really well on 360, while probably not as well this year. However, releasing around a time not many games are out, may help it.

The only way late ports usually sell is if they are discounted. IMO, it should be mandatory on late ports to sell for no more than $40 (unless it includes a crapton of DLC totaling over $60 along with the game's current price on another platform).
Is AIM is behaving for people again?

wait... looks like it's slowly coming back to life...Yeah, three out of 4 of my AIM names were logged out. Eventually, all my AIM names went out. :-( Sucks because I'm addicted to AIM. It's where I do all my social conversations (yeah, call me a loser everyone). ;)

EDIT: Gwen is right, I have seen many trade their multi-platform games around, which IMO, is a waste of money (I've seen people own a version on each console twice).

[jer7583]

So, are people going to call gwen an idiot and a jerk and a fanboy for not equating the MGS plot with a high school creative writing assignment? Because it's more or less what I said a week ago and was HATED for it here. Double standards, we has them.

MGS4 will come to 360 in some form. Subsistence or otherwise.

[Rei no Otaku]

So, are people going to call gwen an idiot and a jerk and a fanboy for not equating the MGS plot with a high school creative writing assignment? Because it's more or less what I said a week ago and was lynched for it here. Double standards, we has them.
Well to be fair I do think Gwen is an idiot for not liking the MGS plot ;)

[guinaevere]

So, are people going to call gwen an idiot and a jerk and a fanboy for not equating the MGS plot with a high school creative writing assignment? Because it's more or less what I said a week ago and was lynched for it here. Double standards, we has them.Oh, I missed that. In any case, thanks for the warning Jer. I'll put my hazmat suit on and prepare for the carnage.


Well to be fair I do think Gwen is an idiot for not liking the MGS plot ;)Over all arch plot isnt horrible. The characters and EVERY subplot are ridiculous. But that's okay. I still love you, Rei. You're a Koei fan, and we need to stick together.

[willardhaven]

I'll agree, MGS games have an entertaining action sci-fi story arc with some really nauseating dialogue and characterization to pad the game length.

Haha Koei, I remember P.T.O. I hated that game.

[daroga]

I'm gonna go test out some speakers tonight that I might buy from a guy off of Craig's List. Any suggestions for Bass and Treble tests for them? I think I've got a decent selection thus far, but what would love other suggestions (limited to what I can get my hands on of course).

Star Wars (THX demo)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (intro)
Phantom of the Opera (overture)
Amadeus

"Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings"

1. "Ring drops", Scene 1 (0:03:49)*
2. "Sauron Explodes", Scene 1 (0:04:04)*
3. "Skeleton falls into well", Scene 8 (0:27:39)*

"Terminator 2"

1. "DVD Intro"
2. "First Footstep" Chap 2 (0:01:40)


"Toy Story 2"

1. "Door knock" (Monsters Inc. trailer)*
2. "Dog growling" (Monsters Inc. trailer)*
3. Opening logo Chap. 1 (0:00:55)*
4. "Aliens explode" Chap. 2 (0:02:30)*
5. "Game over" Chap. 2 (0:04:21)*

[Rei no Otaku]

Koei! Wooo! Can't wait for Warriors Orochi 2.

[joe2187]

Wait TMK,....You haven't played Bioshock? At least rent it. It's a damn awesome game.

I stated before how I felt about the plot of the MGS series, Odd humor and Insane over-the top villains. It wouldnt work as well if the game played like crap, however the gameplay is what sucks me in, for some reason the way the stealth missions work play and the characters interact with eachother drags me in other than any other stealth game like (Anything Tom Clancy puts out) ......Tom Clancy is a hack.

[daroga]

The original Splinter Cell was solid. But I've not played anything in the series since then.

Generally speaking, stealth stuff is not my cup of tea.

[willardhaven]

http://mgsmrfeeny.ytmnd.com/

I want to get through MGS 3 before I try 4, how do you guys deal with the camouflage system? It's really annoying having to go through it and change my gear every time I change terrain.

[kainzero]

I'm with you on this. Whenever a MGS game coms out, people act like Kojima is God of the Universe, and I play the games and the stories and character interactions sound like they were writen by a kid in junior high. I'm fine with being out there saving the world and facing down enemies. I even like that some enemies (fodder) are standard realistic types, while others are supervillian/ superpowered types. That's grand. But it's traditional japanese story/characters with the bleeding heart emo histories and speeches that make me want to bang my head against a wall.
MGS1 and 2, yes. MGS1 gets a little bit more respect from me because at the time nothing was comparable.

MGS3, I thought was pared down a lot more than the previous and I think they did a MUCH better job of integrating the story with the game, especially since they stopped creating a really long backstory for each boss / character. I didn't play 4 yet so I wouldn't know about that one.

So, are people going to call gwen an idiot and a jerk and a fanboy for not equating the MGS plot with a high school creative writing assignment? Because it's more or less what I said a week ago and was HATED for it here. Double standards, we has them.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

[guinaevere]

Koei! Wooo! Can't wait for Warriors Orochi 2.How was the first one? I'm dying to face Oda against Cao Cao. But then, I guess most everyone is.

MGS1 and 2, yes. MGS1 gets a little bit more respect from me because at the time nothing was comparable.

MGS3, I thought was pared down a lot more than the previous and I think they did a MUCH better job of integrating the story with the game, especially since they stopped creating a really long backstory for each boss / character. I didn't play 4 yet so I wouldn't know about that one.I still haven't played 3. My big brother tells me it's his favorite and knowing him, that means the writing improved and the game play is probably easier.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.ha! Jer, next time try fluttering your eyelashes at everyone. Just foolin. Being the girl, I get an easier time.

[Rei no Otaku]

It's really good. I highly recommend it for anyone that likes the DW or SW games.

[dmaul1114]

If they're dreaming and it never gets ported, too bad for them. If it does, good for them. Either way... why worry about it?


I don't think TMK get's upset over it, so this isn't directed at him.

I think most people getting annoyed/pissed off over it, are just fanboys that are relieved to finally have that one big exclusive game on the PS3 that the industry is raving about. The PS3 has had plenty of very good games, but nothing exclusive of this calibur, with this type of universal praise, perfect 10 ratings etc.

The potential of losing it as an exclusive is thus threatening to them.

[dmaul1114]

Space Invaders Extreme is pure win.

Hopefully I can track it down tonight, have to swing by Target and will see if they have it.

If they don't, I may swallow my pride and check the Gamestop that's right by the mall entrance to the target if it's not crazy busy......but I'm not sure I want the game enough to endure than and end my year+ "boycott" of Gamestop.