Square Enix finally commits to PS1 games on PSN [Mobile/Archive]

The Mana Knight

06-25-2008, 12:08 AM

Thanks to duckroll at GAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318089) for the news.
Square Enix has announced in this month's Dengeki Playstation due out on Friday that they are committing to releasing their classics on PSN. Starting TODAY (25th June), they will release Xenogears and Einhander on PSN, for 600yen each. There are 12 key titles that they plan on releasing on Game Archives, starting with Xenogears. There isn't a clean full scan of the interview yet, so this is all I know right now to be 100% accurate. Discuss. :D

Edit: The following titles are coming out TODAY, at 600yen each. They're all under the S-E label.

Xenogears (Square)
Einhander (Square)
Astronoka (Enix)
Rakugaki Showtime (Enix)
Raystorm (Taito)
Fighters Impact (Taito)

Square Enix did once say they were not going to release digital downloads since Japanese gamers do not want them: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158958

I am a bit surprised, but I do remember the news of a major Japanese publisher supporting PSN, and Sufergirl said Square Enix (although they were considered to be remakes).

mykevermin

06-25-2008, 12:11 AM

I have a boner right now.

EDIT: Because I'll at least be able to buy them on the Japanese store. Lord only knows SCEA is too busy fucking off to release any PSX games in the USA, S-E or not.

nightfox

06-25-2008, 01:57 AM

c'mon Vagrant Story!

Strell

06-25-2008, 02:02 AM

Damn. I always wanted to play Rakugaki Showtime.

KingBroly

06-25-2008, 02:35 AM

I need to figure out how to make a Japanese PSN account and figure out how to buy stuff from the Japanese PS Store now.

dallow

06-25-2008, 03:06 AM

Fucking wow.

Fuck you SCEA, I know you're never bringing this shit out.

Time to Be Like Myke and order Rakugaki Showtime and Einhander of JP PSN.

I'm hoping for Tobal 2, Vagrant Story, and Bushido Blade.

VanillaGorilla

06-25-2008, 03:07 AM

What the fuck is Rakugaki Showtime?

H.Cornerstone

06-25-2008, 03:12 AM

Never played Xenogears, which is I hear one of the best RPG's of all time.

PLEASE BRING IT OVER SCEA!!! DON"T BE STUPID!!

dallow

06-25-2008, 03:20 AM

What the fuck is Rakugaki Showtime?
One of Treasure/Enix's best games ever.
And certainly one of the best made for PSX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SPUK_kfVk

Never played Xenogears, which is I hear one of the best RPG's of all time.It's my favorite RPG of all time.

metaly

06-25-2008, 03:25 AM

That's incredible news, and they couldn't have picked better titles to lead off with.

Unless they had picked Vagrant Story, of course.

Maybe one of these days I'll get to see if Soukaigi was really as bad as everyone says.

Pookymeister

06-25-2008, 03:41 AM

One of Treasure/Enix's best games ever.
And certainly one of the best made for PSX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SPUK_kfVk

Poy Poy before they could afford artists? ;)

eau

06-25-2008, 03:44 AM

600 yen for Xenogears? That's like $5.50 American dollars!

chodax

06-25-2008, 04:11 AM

$5.50... how much is that in yen? about 600?

SDC

06-25-2008, 04:27 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh man. I'd love to nab Einhander on PSN, if it ever gets to the US one.

imascrub

06-25-2008, 06:14 AM

hmm...nice, but I have an original hard copy of Xenogears already. :P

Though I do only have a um...*cough* backup of Einhander. My friend happens to have both though. Original Einhander and greatest hits Xenogears.

I did hear that Soukaigi sucked some major ass, but I really loved the music.

bigl523

06-25-2008, 07:43 AM

c'mon and bring xenogears to the us, i don't want to have to buy a copy off of ebay.

imascrub

06-25-2008, 08:50 AM

If Star Ocean 2 was released on the psn I'd probably get that. I never did finish that game from *cough* another backup of mine...

b3b0p

06-25-2008, 08:58 AM

Never played Xenogears, which is I hear one of the best RPG's of all time.

PLEASE BRING IT OVER SCEA!!! DON"T BE STUPID!!
I can tell you, in my opinion, it's one of the most boring and long RPGs ever. Best? No. Worst? Close(r).

The Mana Knight

06-25-2008, 09:09 AM

Anyway, there's no guarantee of what will happen stateside, since SCEA and Square Enix USA need to come to an agreement. This agreement is for SCEJ and Square Enix (SCEJ != SCEA, they pretty much separate themselves).

There are some Square Enix games I want as downloads (they are one of the only publishers games I'd buy), but we'll see if they ever come. All I know of is that I could careless about the Taito stuff (some is in Taito Legends 2).

pete5883

06-25-2008, 09:15 AM

I can tell you, in my opinion, it's one of the most boring and long RPGs ever. Best? No. Worst? Close(r).
This from an Earthbound fan. Xenogears is great if you like a good story, and can deal with text that you can't speed up.

Definitely would buy Einhander if it came here. Played a lot of the demo on PS1 but never got around to it.

Halo05

06-25-2008, 10:18 AM

I still have my JP version of Einhander hanging around along with my US version of Xenogears but this remains potentially great news.

HuppSav

06-25-2008, 12:51 PM

Xenogears has a great soundtrack and theme. Got it off amazon 2 years ago for 15 bucks. I must not have fully grasped the combat system because I just got out of the caves and get my ass handed to me during the next bossfight where you face off against like 5-6 badguys in mech suits.

emg28

06-25-2008, 02:50 PM

Never played Xenogears, which is I hear one of the best RPG's of all time.

PLEASE BRING IT OVER SCEA!!! DON"T BE STUPID!!

This from an Earthbound fan. Xenogears is great if you like a good story, and can deal with text that you can't speed up.

I still have my original copy of Xenogears. I don't think it's one of best of all time but it's a solid RPG with a good story.

Actually, I never even finished Xenogears. There is a part where there is a cut scene with alot of text (^which you can't speed up). I swear it was like 15-20 minutes long. Anyways, after I went through the cut scene, I had to leave quickly and turned the game off without saving. :shock: Needless to say, I didn't want to sit through that again so I never played it again.

Strell

06-25-2008, 03:25 PM

This from an Earthbound fan.

Which means his opinions actually matter.

heavyd853

06-25-2008, 03:52 PM

They may matter, but I disagree! I really loved Xenogears, despite the last half or so of the game being pretty rushed. There's only like 3-4 parts where you cant skip text, so I don't know why people complain about it so much.

It also had one of the best battle systems ever.

Dr Mario Kart

06-25-2008, 03:56 PM

A big chunk of the 2nd half was horrible when they took away control and went cutscene, battle, cutscene battle.

These were the fruits of Squaresoft's rushing the team to finish.

Otherwise it was great.

Zmonkay

06-25-2008, 04:34 PM

mykevermin

06-25-2008, 04:48 PM

Poor2More

06-25-2008, 04:57 PM

If they don't release these titles on US PSN, then that basically like them skull fucken us

mykevermin

06-25-2008, 04:59 PM

Having fewer than 25 PSX classics on the US PSN compared to ~210 on the JPN PSN is more or less skull fucking us.

Poor2More

06-25-2008, 05:17 PM

Having fewer than 25 PSX classics on the US PSN compared to ~210 on the JPN PSN is more or less skull fucking us.

wow their is 25 games on PSN? I never noticed that honesty most be because half of them are worthless lol except Wild Arms, hmm I wonder how much that cost? and how do you go about buying it

mykevermin

06-25-2008, 05:19 PM

wow their is 25 games on PSN?

No. There *are* 25 games on PSN, though.

I never noticed that honesty most be because half of them are worthless lol except Wild Arms, hmm I wonder how much that cost? and how do you go about buying it

Oh my.

VanillaGorilla

06-25-2008, 05:24 PM

Oh my.What do you have against Wild Arms? It's unique setting? The great runes/character customization? The excellent soundtrack? The huge overworld to explore?

Poor2More

06-25-2008, 05:30 PM

What do you have against Wild Arms? It's unique setting? The great runes/character customization? The excellent soundtrack? The huge overworld to explore?

I agree, Wild Arms was so awesome when it came out

cereal_killerxx

06-25-2008, 06:45 PM

If Square Enix starts releasing psx rpgs in the US for us, I will support Sony FOREVER!

HustlerKid

06-25-2008, 09:22 PM

One of Treasure/Enix's best games ever.
And certainly one of the best made for PSX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SPUK_kfVk

It's my favorite RPG of all time.

Was that Maria from Mischief Makers in that vid? What is that game about?

pete5883

06-25-2008, 09:26 PM

What do you have against Wild Arms? It's unique setting? The great runes/character customization? The excellent soundtrack? The huge overworld to explore?
I don't think it was the "Wild Arms" part he was referring to.

the_punisher

06-25-2008, 09:28 PM

metaly

06-25-2008, 09:40 PM

Well since Xenogears = RPG, i'm guessing i wouldn't be able to understand most of it in japanese. I can always buy yen cards from play-asia.com if need be (idk if these will ever make it stateside), but are any of these games playable w/o knowledge in japanese?:cry:

Einh&aulm;nder should be pretty playable regardless of the language. I think they actually tweaked the Western version to make it a little easier, so maybe that's even a reason for fans to try the Japanese one.

I wouldn't bother with Xenogears if you won't be able to understand the story. (Those in the anti-Xenogears camp can go ahead and have a field day with that line.) It's got a fantastic soundtrack and a really fun battle system, but playing it without being able to read anything seems pointless to me.

Paco

06-25-2008, 09:46 PM

These should be in the hong kong store in about a week or two if luck is with us. I'll buy it from there. At least for Rakugaki and Einhander.

The Mana Knight

06-25-2008, 09:49 PM

IF Xenogears ever came stateside, I'd buy it again as a download.

Thomas96

06-25-2008, 09:51 PM

I'm not even going to crack a smile for this shit if it isn't coming to America. Unless one day the PSN (US) store just bursts with a slew of PS1 titles. I'm tired of this.. I want to play PS1 games, not all of them, but I'd love to play them via PSP... oh well guess we have to wait another year for this too.

Strell

06-25-2008, 10:20 PM

Having fewer than 25 PSX classics on the US PSN compared to ~210 on the JPN PSN is more or less skull fucking us.

I think the guys who run this stuff hook up with the guys that run the VC releases and discuss ways to piss off their respective users. Like they all sit at the same lunch table in the cafeteria, high fiving each other when new devious schemes are invented, highlighted with posts from various forums. Probably have a scale to rank everything on.

Not unlike the MOD Square from Thank You For Smoking.

johnnypark

06-25-2008, 10:33 PM

Am I the only one slightly disappointed in this news? Seems to me that this will kill any chances of remakes/enhancements for PSP/PS3, ala FF:Tactics and Valkyrie Profile. I can still see them doing full on remakes, like possibly for FF7, but I would have liked updates to Xenogears and Vagrant Story, etc.

It also has the potential to renew interest in lesser known IPs and spawn possible sequels to them. Of course, that doesn't mean they would be good... but I'd love to see them pick up older franchises that aren't plastered with 'Final Fantasy' (although I love the series).

mykevermin

06-25-2008, 11:43 PM

I think the guys who run this stuff hook up with the guys that run the VC releases and discuss ways to piss off their respective users. Like they all sit at the same lunch table in the cafeteria, high fiving each other when new devious schemes are invented, highlighted with posts from various forums. Probably have a scale to rank everything on.

Not unlike the MOD Square from Thank You For Smoking.

P'raps we could debate on whether or not it is worse to get nothing at all, or to get Burning Fight, or Urban Champion, or whatever VC tripe is trotted out each Monday that can commonly be referred to by their common subtitle of "not Earthbound."

mitch079

06-25-2008, 11:52 PM

I figure they'd make a pretty good amount of cash releasing their PS1 games on the PSN...as opposed to re-making a fucking Final Fantasy game for the 32549th time. I know I'd definitely pick up some of the games I don't have and probably a few I do.

Thomas96

06-26-2008, 02:16 AM

I'd love to pick up a game or two, but there's nothing on the fucking shelves! (online speaking of course)

rodeojones903

06-26-2008, 02:26 AM

When will SCEA realize these are the type of games we want and will buy over here.

Rig

06-26-2008, 02:56 AM

Was that Maria from Mischief Makers in that vid?

That is exactly what game I thought of when I saw that character!

willardhaven

06-26-2008, 12:08 PM

Yes it's Marina.

The characters from Bangai-O are in it as well as others.

SpikeJonez

06-26-2008, 12:15 PM

plz come out

depascal22

06-26-2008, 06:47 PM

Can't wait for Xenogears to come here. *Crosses fingers*

Paco

06-26-2008, 06:49 PM

Let Rakugaki Showtime hit the hong kong store. The games are cheaper there. They're essentially four dollars each over there "4.25 if you want to get technical" I own 15 PSone games from the hong kong store alone.

zewone

06-26-2008, 07:00 PM

I'm surprised they didn't go with any Final Fantasy games. Seems like money makers.

Oh wait, it's because everyone behind the scenes of this shit is fucking stupid.

I'd <3 to give them $5.50 for a bunch of these games, but they don't want it.

depascal22

06-26-2008, 07:17 PM

Yeah, they could put every Final Fantasy on PSN and just watch the money pour in. Hell, can you imagine how many people would download FFVII alone? They could price it at $20 at still make millions.

Strell

06-26-2008, 07:21 PM

depascal22

06-26-2008, 08:02 PM

I may be a dirty consumer whore but.....wait, I don't have a snappy come back for that.

mykevermin

06-26-2008, 08:05 PM

Square doesn't like digital distribution as a rule (at least for now).

This has been known for a good while. They know they can bilk out thirty bucks a pop or more with a re-re-re-re-re-remake-re-release.

For some reason they think making it available digitally would destroy physical sales. I can see where they are coming from, but I don't think it makes sense. Digitally release the original, give an update 2 months later for five times the price.

Don't lie - you'd buy both. You consumer whore.

There's part where i agree with you, and part a great big "ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..." as well.

They can release Final Fantasy Fuckin' Whatever and make a trillion bucks off of it.

Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Musashi, Vagrant Story, SaGa series? Not so much.

depascal22

06-26-2008, 08:10 PM

They could do the Final Fantasies, Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Vagrant Story, and the Parasite Eves and leave it at that. Those games alone could add several million to Square's bottom line ever year. From a financial stand point, it makes more sense than releasing remakes to low sales. Then again, companies rarely do things that makes sense.

Strell

06-26-2008, 08:10 PM

There's part where i agree with you, and part a great big "ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..." as well.

They can release Final Fantasy Fuckin' Whatever and make a trillion bucks off of it.

Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Musashi, Vagrant Story, SaGa series? Not so much.

Isn't that what I said though? I'm guessing you're wondering why their lesser-series titles aren't being released digitally?

Seems like you are answering your own question - they won't release those titles that few people want, even digitally.

Seems in line with what I was saying, but maybe I'm not getting your angle.

Edit: BTW, I'd kill for a remake of Vagrant Story. There's a title screaming for next-gen power. Much like Shadow of the Colossus, which I am currently playing through. Just give me a high FPS and cleaner graphics.

zewone

06-26-2008, 08:13 PM

I may be ugly and hate-filled, but,...uh...what was that last thing you said?

gunm

06-26-2008, 08:20 PM

Ah nice. Einhander! Already have, but would consider a re-purchase if there's any special features added into it.

dallow

06-26-2008, 08:22 PM

They're exactly the same as the original PSX isos.

mykevermin

06-26-2008, 08:30 PM

Isn't that what I said though?

I've been drinking already today, so deal with it.

Strell

06-26-2008, 08:32 PM

I've been drinking already today, so deal with it.

I'm about to get started. (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/06/26/rumor-mankind-ill-needs-a-castlevania-wii-game-such-as-this/)

mykevermin

06-26-2008, 08:52 PM

Oh, cocks.

Really?

*sigh*

Here's to ya.

gr8asianman

07-04-2008, 09:51 PM

Never played Xenogears, which is I hear one of the best RPG's of all time.

I remember playing the demo and loved it. I picked it up and it sits on my shelf sealed with an EB games sticker from the mid 90s on it. I think I played Final Fantasy 7 and never went back. Still a great game though.

Methadon

07-14-2008, 04:46 PM

It'd be nice if they'd re-release Xenogears with support for higher resolutions. Doesn't look the best on my 50", so if they gave it 720/1080 support I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Halo05

07-14-2008, 05:25 PM

Brave Fencer Musashi and Ehrgeiz hit the Japanese Playstation store a couple days ago. I would've gotten Ehrgeiz if I still had any yen on my Japanese account.

mykevermin

07-14-2008, 05:31 PM

It'd be nice if they'd re-release Xenogears with support for higher resolutions. Doesn't look the best on my 50", so if they gave it 720/1080 support I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

It'd be nice if they released Xenogears PERIOD. The S-E deal is only in Japan for now. Like all the fucking PSX titles for download.

SCEA is still jerking off on each other's chests instead of releasing PSX content on the PSN.

Anybody want Syphon Filter 3? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?