Official CAG MGO Games/Clan Discussion - CAG MGO Night Tuesday 8/5 10 PM EST/7 PM PST

[FriskyTanuki]

The long-awaited thread for members of the CAG MGO clan and those looking to play with other CAGs is now here.

To apply for the clan:
1. Click on Clan in the main menu
2. Click on Clan Search
3. Type in "CAG"
4. Apply to join the CAG clan. Don't forget to mention who you are on CAG.

As long as the clan's not full, I'll get to accepting you ASAP. Right now we're at 39/64 members, so there's still plenty of room to join.

Feel free to also discuss playing MGO with other CAGs, like if you are going to host a game for other CAGs to join. Feel free to post details on where the game's hosted so that others can find the game easily.

CAG MGO Games Critical Info
Administrator: CrashSpyro (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188637) "Frisky Tanuki" on CAG
Clan Leader: Solid Tanuki
Server Name: C. Wolf
Game Name : CAG MGO
Password: cheapy
Main Day: Tuesday (times in thread title)
Special Instructions: Once you log in, click on lobby select, click Free Battle, C. Wolf, and search for "CAG MGO". Or add Solid Tanuki, or whoever's hosting the game, to your friends list and jump to that game from there.

[reiji]

Will there be a set time for CAGs to play? I usually end up missing the unscheduled CAG games since I play during weird hours.

[smiggity]

Any chance on getting a clan match going?

[Thongsy]

I'm always hosting games if me and my friend are playing. Though you would have to add me to your friendlist since we started a super uber umm duck clan of just me and him. Usually around 6-7 PM Pacific time, if I do.

[FriskyTanuki]

Any chance on getting a clan match going?
I'm not sure how it works, but I'll look into it.

[KingBroly]

Do we have any official game nights yet?

[kube00]

I applied. I think im cag_kube00 and I mentioned I was a CAG

[The Mana Knight]

Good, glad to see this thread. I linked your game within CAG PSN Gaming (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149288). Whatever days you want, I'll put them on the schedule (I'll even make room for MGO on days where other games go on, except maybe on Friday nights).

Metal Gear Solid Online
Administrator: CrashSpyro (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188637)
Clan Leader: CrashSpyro
Server Name:
Game Name (if I'm correct here):
Password:
Main Day:
Thread: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188637
Special Instructions: Go to a particular server, then choose the game name

[V4oLDbOY]

I thought there should have been a separate thread for mgo.

[RelentlessRolento]

I want official nights.

[Thongsy]

Yeah, we need an official night. I'm on pretty much everyday and I rarely see anybody else on except Bavgate and espy since people were playing other games, which is fine, thus an offical game night for MGO is very sorely needed.

[smiggity]

Im on pretty much every morning until 2 or 3 eastern.

[Bavgate]

Yeah, we need an official night. I'm on pretty much everyday and I rarely see anybody else on except Bavgate and espy since people were playing other games, which is fine, thus an offical game night for MGO is very sorely needed.

Seriously, the only people I ever see active are just us three. I'd enjoy an all CAG room, most definitely. Means all my teammates will at least know what they're doing. :lol:

[bigdaddybruce44]

I've joined a few games with you guys, but I don't see you often or I'm already into another game. If you set up a night, I'll be there.

[primetime]

There have been some circumstances preventing me from playing much lately so I'm a bit rusty. I got through Uncharted tonight though, so hopefully I'll be hopping on a bit more often again.

[Bavgate]

I've joined a few guys with you guys, but I don't see you often or I'm already into another game. If you set up a night, I'll be there.

I was going to join the room you were in about 30 minutes ago, but it was full and I just decided to log off. Enough MGO for tonight. :D

[blueweltall]

Do you still have to level up to join a clan? Is it like the beta where you have to be a certain level to unlock the clan function?

[Mid Boss]

I just applied, my MGO name should be Mid_Boss. I'll probably be on late tonight, like at 1am central if anyone is gonna be up for some games then. I don't have a headset or a keyboard to use right now though.

[smiggity]

Seriously, the only people I ever see active are just us three. I'd enjoy an all CAG room, most definitely. Means all my teammates will at least know what they're doing. :lol:

Thats funny. The only people I ever see active are Phoosh and Thongsy

[Bavgate]

Thats funny. The only people I ever see active are Phoosh and Thongsy

Phoosh? I've never seen him online at all. :cry:

You online right now, smiggity? I'm free to play.

[espy605]

Thats funny. The only people I ever see active are Phoosh and Thongsy

The problem is a lot of CAGs have MGO names different from their CAG ones so they can be hard to spot.

I only see bruce (usually automatching), Thongsy and Bav. Oldboy is always playing some baseball game.

[smiggity]

The problem is a lot of CAGs have MGO names different from their CAG ones so they can be hard to spot.

I only see bruce (usually automatching), Thongsy and Bav. Oldboy is always playing some baseball game.

I was only referrring to the Clan roster, as it is usually eerilly empty every morning/afternoon EST when I get my MGO time in.

[bigdaddybruce44]

The problem is a lot of CAGs have MGO names different from their CAG ones so they can be hard to spot.

I only see bruce (usually automatching), Thongsy and Bav. Oldboy is always playing some baseball game.

Yep, I saw you last night, espy. Unfortunately, after the 2.40 update, I kept getting booted off the PSN last night.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I gotta admit...it's funny as hell going for CQC moves and knife stun/kills. I love getting "knife noob" comments, now.

[Bavgate]

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-164375.aspx

Starting 7/17 in Japan, there will be a new expansion pack available for download for Metal Gear Online.

The pack will be 1200 yen (or a 1500 yen pack which will give you one new character slot), and it will include:

- Johnny and Meryl will be added.
- Now able to make Female Characters.
- 3 new stages including Shadow Moses, Mei Ling's Ship, and MGS1 Heliport.
- Official Survival Mode added.

Also starting 7/4, two new rules will be added:

-Team Scanning (Teams will split into Sneaking and Defending, Sneaking team will be able to use Stealth ability)
-Head-shot Only Kills (Optional Rule)

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The above info are taken from the Japanese forums, the source is from the latest Famitsu which leaked out before release date.

:-k

[smiggity]

Nice

[pete5883]

So like $12? I don't think that's going to go over too well.

[espy605]

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-164375.aspx



:-k

Head shot only? I'm out of that game. I do want to try team scanning though. I like how you have to pay to make female characters, blah. Not that we can have more than one character without paying $7 or whatever absurd price it was. I do want to play on Shadow Moses and the MGS1 Heliport though.


I gotta admit...it's funny as hell going for CQC moves and knife stun/kills.
I agree. :)

[js1]

I'm usually on later at night, from about 11pm-2am EST. My MGO name is Ghost_Face_36

[KingBroly]

Johnny and Meryl added? As servers? Or voices? Or playable during a sneaking mission? That's so vague. Why should I pay $12 for being able to access servers?

[chodax]

I will try to apply sometime tonight or tomorrow.

[primetime]

I was just playing Blood Bath and my character got caught in what seemed like a little dust storm or something. He was coughing and couldn't move, so a guy came up and HS me. Any clue what that was all about?

[espy605]

Johnny and Meryl added? As servers? Or voices? Or playable during a sneaking mission? That's so vague. Why should I pay $12 for being able to access servers?

They're probably playable characters with special abilities. I believe Johnny and Meryl servers already exist.

I was just playing Blood Bath and my character got caught in what seemed like a little dust storm or something. He was coughing and couldn't move, so a guy came up and HS me. Any clue what that was all about?

Are you serious? Those are smoke grenades. They do exactly what you describe for that purpose. They're a pain the ass when friendly fire is on though.

[primetime]

Are you serious? Those are smoke grenades. They do exactly what you describe for that purpose. They're a pain the ass when friendly fire is on though.

I see. Nobody ever uses them and the couple times someone has, I've never been caught in one. Alrighty

[V4oLDbOY]

The problem is a lot of CAGs have MGO names different from their CAG ones so they can be hard to spot.

I only see bruce (usually automatching), Thongsy and Bav. Oldboy is always playing some baseball game.

well now with in-game messaging you an send me a message and I can come in... :D

edit: also, I usually leave the game on even wen I leave my ps3/tv. Since I'm in a middle of a game, so sometimes it'll seem like I'm playing when I'm not, often.

[Thongsy]

I gotta admit...it's funny as hell going for CQC moves and knife stun/kills. I love getting "knife noob" comments, now.

Yea, I got that too when I was being a knife player, even though my stats as a one were horrible. People complain about everything in this game, expecting everybody to play the same way using only an AR. Smoke grenades are fun,especially color ones, a nice change from just using regular or WP.

Looking forward to the add on. Will probably buy it the day it comes out. I wonder if it will be through the PSN or through Konami.

[Jest]

Whats the deal with MGO. I tried to play some games tonight but whenever I shot people, it would take like 3-5 seconds to do any damage. I would unload a clip into someone's back, duck behind the corner to reload, and he would die while I was hiding. Similarly if I was shot at I would get out of the way, but my health would go down after and I would die. I also died immediately after spawning. I have a feeling that is not how the game is meant to be played. Anyone esle have this problem? Was I just getting lag? Also, my headset doesn't work in MGO :(

MGO name is Jest311, same as my PSN account

[Thongsy]

Lag. This game has major lag issues. That happens a lot, like over half the time. Just be glad it wasn't the double kill spawn lag. Lag and random HS is really annoying me in MGO so I basically try to stick only to bases and capture for now.

Edit: You actually might've been experience the lag spawn death issue. Or some jackass was spawn camping.

[MattJ1991]

Just applied

[bigdaddybruce44]

Lag is certainly an issue with this game, just like it was with the original MGO. The best you can do is simply leave a laggy game.

[espy605]

I see. Nobody ever uses them and the couple times someone has, I've never been caught in one. Alrighty

Actually, that is true, people rarely use them but if you play games with Thongsy, he uses them a LOT. In games that prohibit direct-damage grenades, these are also popular.

[smiggity]

So Tuesday night huh? Are people actually gonna show up, or will it be like the beta?

[StrandedBrit]

I was only referrring to the Clan roster, as it is usually eerilly empty every morning/afternoon EST when I get my MGO time in.

In the evening too. I've been playing the last several days and check the clan roster each time. Blank!

[FriskyTanuki]

Beta. We'll see what happens and adjust accordingly.

[smiggity]

Stay flexible and hopefully it'll work out. It seems there is another group of CAG members who play MGO, maybe we should combine forces?

[metaly]

Got a few sneaking mode questions: Are headshots one-hit kills on Snake? Also, do his footprints show up when you're using the NVG?

For people who like doing one team VS Snake, what strategies do you have for hunting down Snake at the beginning of the round? I try throwing a couple locators and listening for footprints, but it seems like there are very few options until he starts shooting.

[Bavgate]

Got a few sneaking mode questions: Are headshots one-hit kills on Snake?

Yep.

Also, do his footprints show up when you're using the NVG?

Yep yep. Also, if the Snake player is stupid enough not to use Facecamo, you can see their head. You can see the Snake player, clear as day, when his camo changes, too.

For people who like doing one team VS Snake, what strategies do you have for hunting down Snake at the beginning of the round? I try throwing a couple locators and listening for footprints, but it seems like there are very few options until he starts shooting.

Can't answer this since I've never played a one team vs Snake game before, but on Sneaking games, I usually just immediately run to one of Snake's closest spawn points and look around for a bit. Most of the time, they shoot me with a tranquilizer, I spot him, and my teammates come running. Then again, this doesn't really help if you haven't played as Snake a lot, so you won't know which spots he spawns at.

[MaskedPlague]

I will try to join the clan tonight. I will be able to play Tuesday night.

[Bavgate]

So, I was checking out our clan records online at the MGO2 website and I noticed a "Clan Champions" section. Apparently, I'm the Suicide and Falling Death champ, along with a few more titles (Good records, mind you ;)).

Either, I'm really clumsy with nades or killing yourself after the match ends counts in the score. :cry:

Just go to the Community Support page on MGO or go here: http://mgo2web.konami.com/us/community/?m=pc&a=page_o_top&resolution=hd

Log in with your Game ID and password, click on "CAG" on the left side under "Player Info", then click on "Clan Member Records" on the top (It should be directly under 'Favorites'). Clan Champions is located at the bottom of page after you click on the records.

[metaly]

It says qwikcipher is the "self CQC" champ with 1146 times. How do you use CQC on yourself, let alone do it over a thousand times?

[Bavgate]

It says qwikcipher is the "self CQC" champ with 1146 times. How do you use CQC on yourself, let alone do it over a thousand times?

I was going to ask that myself. What in the fuck is a "Self CQC"?!

[metaly]

Oh OK... I checked qwikcipher's personal stats and I guess Self CQC is just a confusing way of saying how many CQC attacks you've received. And here I was imagining some guy just standing there punching and occasionally throwing himself on the floor. :lol:

[espy605]

So, I was checking out our clan records online at the MGO2 website and I noticed a "Clan Champions" section. Apparently, I'm the Suicide and Falling Death champ, along with a few more titles (Good records, mind you ;)).

Either, I'm really clumsy with nades or killing yourself after the match ends counts in the score. :cry:

Just go to the Community Support page on MGO or go here: http://mgo2web.konami.com/us/community/?m=pc&a=page_o_top&resolution=hd

Log in with your Game ID and password, click on "CAG" on the left side under "Player Info", then click on "Clan Member Records" on the top (It should be directly under 'Favorites'). Clan Champions is located at the bottom of page after you click on the records.

Woohoo consecutive deaths champ! It's because I joined a game practicing CQC and people kept killing me ha.

On the upside I am the cardboard box and knife champ!

Anyone wanna get on and play?

Looks like there's an announcement in that the rat title is being reset somehow.

[Bavgate]

Woohoo consecutive deaths champ! It's because I joined a game practicing CQC and people kept killing me ha.

On the upside I am the cardboard box and knife champ!

Anyone wanna get on and play?

I'm down, espy. I'll be online in a few.

[espy605]

bav password is "cag" (I just guessed)

edit: my team makes me sad

[Mid Boss]

I could play a little. Keep in mind I don't have a headset or keyboard though, so don't expect much communication on my end.

[Bavgate]

bav password is "cag" (I just guessed)

edit: my team makes me sad

Yeah, I figured it out. I was about to in-game message you.

STUPID MAINTENANCE. :bomb:

And a friendly reminder once again...

PLEASE don't kill the enemies once the SOP Destab activates!

[espy605]

Yeah, I figured it out. I was about to in-game message you.

STUPID MAINTENANCE. :bomb:

And a friendly reminder once again...

PLEASE don't kill the enemies once the SOP Destab activates!

I think I said it at least three times but that didn't stop anyone. I don't even know why we have base capture in the rotation if everyone plays it like TDM.

[Bavgate]

I think I said it at least three times but that didn't stop anyone. I don't even know why we have base capture in the rotation if everyone plays it like TDM.

Meh, they'll learn eventually. Just hope the other CAG guys read this and learn to play it the correct way. :-#

Oh, and another thing, try not to KS people when they're going for a knife kill or just CQC stunned someone/have them in a CQC hold. Noticed that in one game when espy stunned me in A.A. I managed to still kill him, but I was shot in the head at the same time I died.

[metaly]

Good games, although I had to leave unexpectedly. I think base mode is my second favorite mode after sneaking. I always liked that map, too.

During one of the destabs, I watched helplessly as espy stun knifed Bavgate. I was scared that he'd come after me next because I was just around the corner, but luckily he went the other way. That was some true MG-quality tension right there. :)

[Thongsy]

Damn, sounds like it was fun. Yea, few people actually stun with the SOP Destab, they just go for the kill. Kinda annoying that they do that. Was fun playing with you eariler espy, espically with that damn SOP destab fakeout you had on us. Hope they do reset rat rank, since I got that like my first hour or two of the game and I didn't really fall for many traps, and it now it won't go away at all. I want the Kerotan rank for playing capture. Dinosaur clan ftw.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, they really screwed up the rat rank. I got it in my first few hours, I might have fallen for like 5 mags and a claymore.

[Thongsy]

Team Sneaking mode is up now. It plays like a bit like Rescue, where one team must rescue the kerotan, they're the sneaking team. Armed only with non-lethal weapons except the stun knife. They get the stealth camo, but it was weird for me like sometimes it would just shut off, so I don't know what's up with that. Than the other team is just the defending team and gets all the basic weapons, without camo and must obviously defend the Kerotan from being capture.

[primetime]

Good games this afternoon guys.

[smiggity]

For sure. Good times finally making it into a game with CAGs and using teamwork/communication. Makes it so much more enjoyable. I will be back on in a couple hours if anyone wants to play.

Also, what is up with the ranking system? I see people with fifty plus hours and they are only a level 5. I am assuming it just goes with the win/loss ratio? It seems as long as I stay above 50%, I stay at a level five.

[espy605]

During one of the destabs, I watched helplessly as espy stun knifed Bavgate. I was scared that he'd come after me next because I was just around the corner, but luckily he went the other way. That was some true MG-quality tension right there. :)

Bav was on my way to a base, and I wasn't sure what lasted longer, the Destab or the knife stun so I just stunned him.

Oh, and another thing, try not to KS people when they're going for a knife kill or just CQC stunned someone/have them in a CQC hold.
This doesn't bother me except when a teammate walks into my knife because they're trying to kill someone (at CQC range with a gun?) I'm fighting.

Yea, few people actually stun with the SOP Destab, they just go for the kill. Kinda annoying that they do that. Was fun playing with you eariler espy, espically with that damn SOP destab fakeout you had on us. Hope they do reset rat rank, since I got that like my first hour or two of the game and I didn't really fall for many traps, and it now it won't go away at all. I want the Kerotan rank for playing capture. Dinosaur clan ftw.
Thongsy I've seen YOU kill people during Destabs haha, and you even place them yourself. I knew you and dauth would defend your area if you knew I had a Destab so I went after the bases instead, haha.

Dinosaur clan: extinct!!!

For sure. Good times finally making it into a game with CAGs and using teamwork/communication. Makes it so much more enjoyable. I will be back on in a couple hours if anyone wants to play.

Also, what is up with the ranking system? I see people with fifty plus hours and they are only a level 5. I am assuming it just goes with the win/loss ratio? It seems as long as I stay above 50%, I stay at a level fiv

Nope, I am below 50% but I am rank 6 (last time I checked, I drop to 3 sometimes).

[bigl523]

GGZ smog + primetime.

Whats up with Thongsy NOT being in the clan anymore?

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone try out the new modes today?

[smiggity]

Nope, I am below 50% but I am rank 6 (last time I checked, I drop to 3 sometimes).

So you dont know how it works? Maybe just by total points? I think I have around 8000.

[espy605]

Team Sneaking mode is up now. It plays like a bit like Rescue, where one team must rescue the kerotan, they're the sneaking team. Armed only with non-lethal weapons except the stun knife. They get the stealth camo, but it was weird for me like sometimes it would just shut off, so I don't know what's up with that. Than the other team is just the defending team and gets all the basic weapons, without camo and must obviously defend the Kerotan from being capture.

I figured it out. If one person gets spotted on your team, EVERYONE's stealth camo gets disabled until the caution timer runs out.

[Thongsy]

Thongsy I've seen YOU kill people during Destabs haha, and you even place them yourself. I knew you and dauth would defend your area if you knew I had a Destab so I went after the bases instead, haha.

Dinosaur clan: extinct!!!

Nope, I am below 50% but I am rank 6 (last time I checked, I drop to 3 sometimes).

Yea, I kill people sometimes after a destab, that's only cause everybody already started killing them. So I'm like fuck it, it'll too late might as well at least try to get some kill points out of it.

Yea, the ranking level system doesn't make sense. I keep switching from 4 and 5. Dauth is only 5 though he has like 600-800 more kills than deaths and I got 200 more deaths than kills. Another person I saw had like 2:1 kill/death ratio and was only rank 7. I'm surprised espy isn't higher though, with all those stuns.

If I'm not mistaken, Stuns in the old MGO also gave the same amount of points as a kill and even took down a ticket in TDMs. So it was better to stun people, while here it's all about the kill.

[espy605]

I hate these guys I'm playing with, does anyone have maps for where the NVG are in each map?

[Bavgate]

Level ranking is determined by the level of the players that you kill. If you kill higher level players, your level will increase. If you get owned by lower level players, your level is going down.

That's why I keep switching between level 5 and 6. :cry:

That was funny as hell when espy just knife stunned me after that Destab went off on U.U. I was laughing pretty hard and all I could say to myself was, "Bastard." :lol:

Anyway, I'm going to get some lunch with my friends and once I'm back, let's get some games going. :D

[bigdaddybruce44]

I keep switching between 5 and 6, as well.

[espy605]

metaly is hosting a clan game:
server: otacon
gamename: metayland (yes I know)
pass: cag

[Bavgate]

Team sneaking sucks! Espy's too good at it. xD

[espy605]

Team sneaking sucks! Espy's too good at it. xD

It was just coincidence I kept running into you.

[Bavgate]

"At least I killed Bav"

:cry:

[darthbudge]

Good games tonight guys. Me, Espy, Bav and Metaly were playing Snake hunt for quite awhile and it was awfully fun.

[Bavgate]

Good games tonight guys. Me, Espy, Bav and Metaly were playing Snake hunt for quite awhile and it was awfully fun.

Pretty damn fun when it's just like 4-5 people. :D

More games later tonight! Me and espy are probably playing for the rest of the day, haha.

[espy605]

"At least I killed Bav"

:cry:

I'm not good enough at TDM or DM, so I have to set different goals for myself

[Esper]

Oh OK... I checked qwikcipher's personal stats and I guess Self CQC is just a confusing way of saying how many CQC attacks you've received. And here I was imagining some guy just standing there punching and occasionally throwing himself on the floor. :lol:

I'm qwikcipher btw guys :). I didn't know I was the CQC champ until I checked this thread. I mainly go to a room that hosts cqc/scanner/runner only, no weapons. Just having fun cqc'ing other ppl, as well as building my CQC level to lvl 3. That's the reason why I have a high number of CQC attacks in the game.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Pretty damn fun when it's just like 4-5 people. :D

More games later tonight! Me and espy are probably playing for the rest of the day, haha.

I'll probably check you guys later. I'd love to play more with you, but you fellows seem to enjoy everything except TDM, which is about the only thing I really play. It's cool, though. You're fun to play with, so I'll bite the bullet.

[espy605]

I'll probably check you guys later. I'd love to play more with you, but you fellows seem to enjoy everything except TDM, which is about the only thing I really play. It's cool, though. You're fun to play with, so I'll bite the bullet.

Actually I think everyone likes TDM except me, other people that host usually include it in the rotation.

[Thongsy]

I usually don't include TDM since it almost always ends up being unbalance teams skillwise, or one team starts spawn camping. My rotation is Caps n Bases, and maybe a little Sneaking, since that's really just TDM with somebody getting to be Snake.

[espy605]

I usually don't include TDM since it almost always ends up being unbalance teams skillwise, or one team starts spawn camping. My rotation is Caps n Bases, and maybe a little Sneaking, since that's really just TDM with somebody getting to be Snake.

We just played a bunch of TSNK with dauth, pretty fun!

[Bavgate]

Team Sneak = Pretty fun after I gave it some more games.
Base = The best.
Capture = Almost always intense rounds.
Sneaking = I'm always Snake, but it gets boring after awhile. :lol:
Rescue = No point to this now since Team Sneak is out, right?
TDM = Should be all knives, all the time. 8-)
DM = Same as above.

Fun time playing that all knife TDM with you, qwikcipher. Love when everyone is in a giant cluster-fuck, then you run up and stun them all for the win!

[Esper]

Likewise Bav, that was an awesome knife TDM. Too bad the host left early :cry:

[Bavgate]

Likewise Bav, that was an awesome knife TDM. Too bad the host left early :cry:

Oh my god, that reminds me of the Team Sneak room I joined with a few other CAG guys and the damn host kept leaving after they got killed! So, everytime we had to start over after going halfway through it. Geez, that pissed me off. :bomb:

Hope that never happens again.

Anyway, let me know if anyone's going to get some games started tomorrow. I'll jump on MGO in a snap.

Oh, and one more thing: Auto-aim + Pistols = :drool: I seriously love it.

[darthbudge]

Oh, and one more thing: Auto-aim + Pistols = :drool: I seriously love it.

Me too. Combine that with a CQC throw and you got a real killer right there.

I don't know exactly what time, but I am sure I will be on this afternoon and definately at like 7-8PM CST.

[smiggity]

Auto Aim???????? Cmon now, seriously?

[Bavgate]

Auto-aim is hard as hell to use if you think about it.

You have a guy aiming for your head in OTS mode, that only needs one shot to take you down. With the pistol, you're shooting at their body and it almost takes up an entire clip to finally kill them. Who has the advantage there?

I like auto-aim because it can also locate enemy positions. Let's say I'm on G.G., walking down the alley part of the map. I hold L1, and I lock onto someone ABOVE me on the roof. I didn't notice him at all, so now I know his spot and can take him out.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's not cheap. I don't use it with any other weapons except the pistols and sometimes the knife. Even though I love auto-aim, I don't use it 100% of the time. I still use the OTS mode and Primary weapons. In fact, I think I only use the auto-aim/pistol combo less than 30% of the time I play.

And yes, CQC throwdown + auto-aim pistol works wonders. It has saved my ass on occasions when I was thrown down by an enemy player and I was about to get knifed. Turning the crosshair is too slow to aim for them, so using auto-aim is the next best thing.

Before you mock it, you should try it out yourself. I used to think it sucked too, but a day or two of practice made me start to like it a lot.

[Thongsy]

Auto-aim isn't cheap. Random HS is cheap, and that is what comprises 90% of this game, the random HS. Requires almost no skills, just aim for the head and spray away, eventually one of those 20 bullets will get them and one of theirs will get you.

[bigl523]

Auto-aim isn't cheap. Random HS is cheap, and that is what comprises 90% of this game, the random HS. Requires almost no skills, just aim for the head and spray away, eventually one of those 20 bullets will get them and one of theirs will get you.

QFT. I can't tell you how many times I will get a hs on an enemy and then half a second later he gets a hs on me and we are both dead. So lame.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I don't find any tactic to be really cheap. I mean, people complain about people who hide, CQC, and knife kill. Well, be more careful, then. People complain about snipers. Well, don't go out in open areas, then. It's that simple. There is a counter to every tactic.

As far as auto-aim goes, it does give you an advantage, but at a disadvantage, so whatever. If someone wants to auto-aim, that's fine. I don't find many people do, anyway.

As far as random headshots go, when it comes down to it, a good player isn't going to let a bad player get off 10 or 20 shots. They will already be dead.

QFT. I can't tell you how many times I will get a hs on an enemy and then half a second later he gets a hs on me and we are both dead. So lame.

How so? They got their shot off, and it hit you. It stinks, but they earned the kill as much as you did.

[smiggity]

I was certainly not implying it was cheap, like above said it has advantages and disadvantages. I just think that, in general and for ALL games, auto aim is a lame concept. Takes some of the "playing" out of the game.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Why did they bother making the games up to 16 players, when the system obviously can't handle it? The frame rate drops dramatically, especially when something explodes.

[espy605]

I had the funniest moment. We were playing TSNK and the guy guarding the endzone threw me down so I lost the duck. He didn't have a knife equipped, so I rolled over the duck, picked it up and rolled into the endzone, we win!

[smiggity]

I had the funniest moment. We were playing TSNK and the guy guarding the endzone threw me down so I lost the duck. He didn't have a knife equipped, so I rolled over the duck, picked it up and rolled into the endzone, we win!

That is awesome! :applause:

[Bavgate]

I had the funniest moment. We were playing TSNK and the guy guarding the endzone threw me down so I lost the duck. He didn't have a knife equipped, so I rolled over the duck, picked it up and rolled into the endzone, we win!

What the fuck? Damn, I missed that. :cry:

[metaly]

Is there a rule where one guy always has to constantly CQC one other guy on his own team? Also does that other guy always have to be me? :bomb:

Fun games, though. TDM isn't what I go looking for when I play MGO, but the ones tonight were pretty good. I love when people actually stick together.

Got both runner and assault rifle level 2 during that last match. I'll probably replace CQC+ for runner 2 since I never use it. What's everyone else using?

[bigl523]

How so? They got their shot off, and it hit you. It stinks, but they earned the kill as much as you did.

It happens way too often and there's a noticeable delay after the first guy dies. It's like the game thinks "i kind of feel bad for that guy who died, let's give him a headshot." I've played many other FPS's and simultaneous deaths are extremely high in this one alone.

[bigdaddybruce44]

It happens way too often and there's a noticeable delay after the first guy dies. It's like the game thinks "i kind of feel bad for that guy who died, let's give him a headshot." I've played many other FPS's and simultaneous deaths are extremely high in this one alone.

That's because headshots are pretty easy to get in this game, because of the OTS angle. Have you noticed the extremely high percentage of headshots people have? That's why you have so many simultaneous deaths.

[bobo2k4]

Just applied

game name: dwight_schrute!

[chodax]

just applied

[Bavgate]

Is there a rule where one guy always has to constantly CQC one other guy on his own team? Also does that other guy always have to be me? :bomb:

Fun games, though. TDM isn't what I go looking for when I play MGO, but the ones tonight were pretty good. I love when people actually stick together.

Got both runner and assault rifle level 2 during that last match. I'll probably replace CQC+ for runner 2 since I never use it. What's everyone else using?

My current set-up is:

Monomania 3
Narc 2 (I need to get 3 somehow. 3 is amazing. Enemies light up when they point their gun at you so you can see where they're going to shoot you from.)
Runner 1
Sixth Sense 1 (Again, need level 3.)

Mostly a skill set-up to promote teamwork through SOP. I'll switch skills around according to the game mode I'm playing, though.

And fuck those a-holes that were trying to kick you in our games last night. It was pissing me off. I don't even know what the hell you did. Apparently, getting mad at your own teammate that is CQC'ing yourself gives them the option to kick you? #-o

[espy605]

My current set-up is:

Monomania 3
Narc 2 (I need to get 3 somehow. 3 is amazing. Enemies light up when they point their gun at you so you can see where they're going to shoot you from.)
Runner 1
Sixth Sense 1 (Again, need level 3.)

Mostly a skill set-up to promote teamwork through SOP. I'll switch skills around according to the game mode I'm playing, though.

And fuck those a-holes that were trying to kick you in our games last night. It was pissing me off. I don't even know what the hell you did. Apparently, getting mad at your own teammate that is CQC'ing yourself gives them the option to kick you? #-o

So ho wexactly does Narc work? Does monomania have an L3 bonus?

Like that guy that tried to kick me because I was using NVG and he said I was glitching him?

[metaly]

My current set-up is:

Monomania 3
Narc 2 (I need to get 3 somehow. 3 is amazing. Enemies light up when they point their gun at you so you can see where they're going to shoot you from.)
Runner 1
Sixth Sense 1 (Again, need level 3.)

Mostly a skill set-up to promote teamwork through SOP. I'll switch skills around according to the game mode I'm playing, though.

And fuck those a-holes that were trying to kick you in our games last night. It was pissing me off. I don't even know what the hell you did. Apparently, getting mad at your own teammate that is CQC'ing yourself gives them the option to kick you? #-o

Wow, narc sounds like something I should be using. I'll have to start leveling it up. I think I was turned off from it because the description says it works only when enemies lock-on, but maybe more people use auto-aim than I think?

And yeah, who knows what was with those kicks last night. I thought maybe they were friends with the CQC guy, but by the time the second vote came up he had already left. Maybe they just smelled blood on the Internet. :roll:

[espy605]

Is there a rule where one guy always has to constantly CQC one other guy on his own team? Also does that other guy always have to be me? :bomb:

Fun games, though. TDM isn't what I go looking for when I play MGO, but the ones tonight were pretty good. I love when people actually stick together.

Got both runner and assault rifle level 2 during that last match. I'll probably replace CQC+ for runner 2 since I never use it. What's everyone else using?

I find having CQC is actually a pain in the ass because sometimes you'll accidentally grab when you meant to throw and vice versa.

I usually have Runner L2, Quarterback L3 ( can grenade across half a map with L3), and Knife L1.

[metaly]

How are you guys equipping L2 and L3 stuff at the same time?

[Bavgate]

So ho wexactly does Narc work? Does monomania have an L3 bonus?

Like that guy that tried to kick me because I was using NVG and he said I was glitching him?

Monomania 3 lasts about 6-8 seconds for highlighting the enemy, I think. Maybe longer.

Narc 1-2 suck, 3 is where it's at. Let's say we're on U.U. and a sniper is aiming at me from one of the rooftops. Thanks to Narc 3, I'll know where that guy is aiming from before he even takes a shot. As long as his crosshair crosses over my character's body, his body will light up.

And LOL @ that guy saying you were glitching. That was damn funny. That reminds me for TSNK, go straight for the NVG's at all costs. Whichever team has it is going to be at a huge advantage.

If anyone wants to level up Narc with me, I'm in a room right now. All we have to do is lock onto each other and leave it like that until the round ends. Then, we go again. I'm going to be AFK for like 20 minutes though, so give me a bit of time.

And metaly, support skills (the blue skills) only take up one slot, no matter what level.

[espy605]

What the fuck? Damn, I missed that. :cry:

You were in the game though where I made it into the endzone with the kerotan, but was killed the moment I rolled in it and it didn't count? :(

And LOL @ that guy saying you were glitching. That was damn funny. That reminds me for TSNK, go straight for the NVG's at all costs. Whichever team has it is going to be at a huge advantage.
Yeah but by the time I find them sometimes, usually 75% of the opposing team is already dead.

[Ecofreak]

Just applied under the Handle Azure_Phoenix

[Bavgate]

You were in the game though where I made it into the endzone with the kerotan, but was killed the moment I rolled in it and it didn't count? :(

Yeah but by the time I find them sometimes, usually 75% of the opposing team is already dead.

Yeah, I was there. :/

We should find out the NVG's spawn-points sometime later today for each stage or whenever.

[metaly]

And metaly, support skills (the blue skills) only take up one slot, no matter what level.

That's really cool, I didn't know that.

So Narc only levels up while someone's locked onto you, but it still activates if they free aim over you?

I'll probably get online in a bit. I also got the guide so I'll check if it shows item spawns.

[Bavgate]

That's really cool, I didn't know that.

So Narc only levels up while someone's locked onto you, but it still activates if they free aim over you?

I'll probably get online in a bit. I also got the guide so I'll check if it shows item spawns.

To level Narc 1, you just have to be shot. No auto-aim needed.
Narc 2, someone just needs to lock onto you with auto-aim. I think taking damage might work too. I'm not completely sure yet.
Narc 3 is the one where it activates if someone free aims over you.

[Thongsy]

My skill set is usually,

AR 2
Runner 1
Hawkeye 3

Sometimes I switch it just to try new things out or depending on the match. I may take out hawkeye since it's really only good with one guy, the XM8, and use monomania or quarterback. Hmm Narc sounds nice, maybe have to use that.

Thankfully Metaly didn't get kicked, since most of the time people will vote yes no matter what. I hate the kick system because people never give a reason. I rather be asked to leave and told why than kicked as that doesn't tell me anything.

[metaly]

Man, even after all those games my Narc is still about 10%. Oh well.

[Bavgate]

Apparently, Narc, Monomania, and Sixth Sense level up automatically as long as you're using SOP. Just link up with your teammates everytime you spawn and it should level up.

I think it's true, because my Narc skill bar has been inching a little further after every game that wasn't one of those Narc leveling rooms. Still looks like it's going to take awhile for me to get to level 3, but it's going to be so worth it.

[metaly]

Apparently, Narc, Monomania, and Sixth Sense level up automatically as long as you're using SOP. Just link up with your teammates everytime you spawn and it should level up.

Sounds like a plan. It's too bad it can't be inflated as fast as Sixth Sense, because that level 3 sounds almost like cheating. :D

[Bavgate]

Sounds like a plan. It's too bad it can't be inflated as fast as Sixth Sense, because that level 3 sounds almost like cheating. :D

:lol:

My Sixth Sense leveled up to level 2 after like two rounds. SOOOO easy when you plant eight mags and there's a bunch of other people planting them too. xD

[espy605]

:lol:

My Sixth Sense leveled up to level 2 after like two rounds. SOOOO easy when you plant eight mags and there's a bunch of other people planting them too. xD

At higher levels, can Sixth Sense see things that are further away? At Level 1 I see traps right before I touch them, blah.

Also how do you know L3 Narc does that? Who has it that told you it does?

That idea about Narc going up automatically makes sense since mine increases slowly in games I know no one uses AutoAim in.

[Bavgate]

At higher levels, can Sixth Sense see things that are further away? At Level 1 I see traps right before I touch them, blah.

Also how do you know L3 Narc does that? Who has it that told you it does?

That idea about Narc going up automatically makes sense since mine increases slowly in games I know no one uses AutoAim in.

Range is supposed to increase with each additional level for Sixth Sense.

Couple of friends that have Narc 3 have told me. It's kind of hard to believe, I'll admit, but I'll go through the strain of getting it, even if it is bullshit.

[espy605]

Range is supposed to increase with each additional level for Sixth Sense.

Couple of friends that have Narc 3 have told me. It's kind of hard to believe, I'll admit, but I'll go through the strain of getting it, even if it is bullshit.

Hmm, how does it affect people like Snake or TSNK players? Seems unfair even with Narc 3 if it decloaks them.

[Bavgate]

Hmm, how does it affect people like Snake or TSNK players? Seems unfair even with Narc 3 if it decloaks them.

I believe they'll light up too. Can't confirm, though.

[metaly]

Fun games just now. Still not a huge fan of team sneak, but it has potential. I especially liked how one of the sneakers grabbed one of my team's M4s and killed me with it.

I also wasn't expecting to like large sneaking mode games, but somehow it works. With both teams just shooting at each other and Snake doing his thing in the background, it fits in well with "no place to hide" as well. :) It may actually be easier for Snake to win against two large teams opposed to a single small one.

And the theory that Narc just levels up based on games or even just time, rather than behavior, makes sense. I notice after every couple rounds it seems to have creeped up the same amount. Of course at this rate it's going to take forever to get to level 3.

[espy605]

Fun games just now. Still not a huge fan of team sneak, but it has potential. I especially liked how one of the sneakers grabbed one of my team's M4s and killed me with it.

I also wasn't expecting to like large sneaking mode games, but somehow it works. With both teams just shooting at each other and Snake doing his thing in the background, it fits in well with "no place to hide" as well. :) It may actually be easier for Snake to win against two large teams opposed to a single small one.


I love team sneak, and even I will try to get guns from enemies I knock out. It's easier to do if the guy you stun is alone, of course. Team Sneak works best in 3-5 minute rounds. Any longer and it becomes boring having to wait for the last guy to move around the map. I dislike how necessary the NVG are, and kind of wish they would be removed from maps on TSNK. They're too powerful.

I still like the sneaking mode but it seems SOME people get picked as Snake at too frequent a rate, and as much fun as I have killing Snake it's a lot more fun to be him. I think he also needs to have a little more health than regular players.

[V4oLDbOY]

man ive been out for while. I haven't had much time to get into any mgo action. My job just picked up like crazy the past few weeks. I'm usually at work at like 5-6 am to maybe 2 pm. But recently its been 4:30 am sharp to 1:30 pm. Ugg, so I'm usually a bit too tired to play when you guys do. I'd usually play some games, something quick and easy (recently sshd) from around midnight to like around now since thats when I wake up. I'll try and get in tuesday, I haven't been able to try the new mode yet either.

[Bavgate]

I still like the sneaking mode but it seems SOME people get picked as Snake at too frequent a rate, and as much fun as I have killing Snake it's a lot more fun to be him. I think he also needs to have a little more health than regular players.

Sorry. :cry:

[KingBroly]

Is there going to be a game tonight so we can try out the new Team Sneak? It seems like...well...I don't know what. By not playing it I'd say it seems somewhat thought out except from my understanding once your seen by one guy, everyone sees you. Meaning just keep 1 or 2 people back at your base and go from there.

[smiggity]

Just played a few rounds with Thongsy. Good times, but could you hear my Voicechat? I could barely hear you...

[espy605]

Is there going to be a game tonight so we can try out the new Team Sneak? It seems like...well...I don't know what. By not playing it I'd say it seems somewhat thought out except from my understanding once your seen by one guy, everyone sees you. Meaning just keep 1 or 2 people back at your base and go from there.

Yes but the game plays better with a strict time limit forcing the stealth team to move forward. The problem with long time limits is you have people hiding forever in a place.

[Bavgate]

Damnit! My Narc 3 is soooooooo close.

[Thongsy]

Just played a few rounds with Thongsy. Good times, but could you hear my Voicechat? I could barely hear you...

All I kept hearing was static. With a couple times you saying "what?" All the times I use a headset I could barely ever hear anybody, their voice thing would light up but nothing would be spoken. I even got a new headset, kinda annoying that this is suppose to be a team game, but you don't get assist points, only for killing and nobody ever communicates via the headset that do have them and than the other 80% of people don't have them.

Yea, Rescue and Team Sneaking need a strict short time limit, 3-5 minutes max, otherwise you get dumbass games who don't do anything cause they don't want to die and than everybody who has died leaves and basically kills the room cause of that.

[metaly]

For anyone having trouble hearing chat, do you have your headset output turned up in-game? I had a hard time hearing people and then I noticed MGO has its own option (go figure) for headset volume. Mine was at 5/10, so I turned it up to max. Of course I haven't even seen anyone talk since then. :) Maybe tonight or tomorrow I'll get to see if it helped.

[Thongsy]

I have it set to max. Sometimes though I'm mumbling to myself and not talking. But when I do talk I'm not really sure if anybody hears me or not, and I don't hear anybody either. I guess the real test of the voice will come when we do the CAG game night and hopefully most people will have a headset, since it's getting really annoying to not be able to hear anybody and also being the only person with a headset in the game.

[Bavgate]

Damn espy, you left too quick. I just found a TSNK with 5 min rounds. :cry:

[chodax]

MGO is really fun and I love playing, but it feels like once socom comes out this game is just going to pretty much die.

[Bavgate]

Wonder how many people are going to make it to MGO night.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I will most certainly attempt to be there with bells on.

[metaly]

I'm gonna play some Gaylo instead, nubs!!##

p.s. About halfway to Narc 2, and Monomania will probably hit 2 in my next game. Wooo, support skills. And ha @ espy CQCing me to start off every game. :lol: I think in one of them he actually ran back to do it.

[Bavgate]

I'm gonna play some Gaylo instead, nubs!!##

HAHAHAHAH! That was so funny. No way you're getting kicked from a room as long as we're around. Dumbass teabaggers. Teabaggers and the end-of-round CQC'ers piss me off so much. :bomb:

p.s. About halfway to Narc 2, and Monomania will probably hit 2 in my next game. Wooo, support skills. And ha @ espy CQCing me to start off every game. :lol: I think in one of them he actually ran back to do it.

Nice, nice. So, the SOP thing is actually working. I'm closing in on Narc 3. About two slivers of the bar left. Already maxed Sixth Sense and QB today. Sixth Sense is actually a REALLY good skill. I was able to spot the mags laid down by Snake from quite a bit ahead of me. Were you guys able to see them on your screen when we were linked? The range is supposed to be huge.

I guess that's the new thing to do, CQC metaly!

[bigdaddybruce44]

I'm gonna play some Gaylo instead, nubs!!##That was the best...that idiot t-bagged you, you said something, and he actually tried to get you kicked.

[metaly]

HAHAHAHAH! That was so funny. No way you're getting kicked from a room as long as we're around. Dumbass teabaggers. Teabaggers and the end-of-round CQC'ers piss me off so much. :bomb:

Nice, nice. So, the SOP thing is actually working. I'm closing in on Narc 3. About two slivers of the bar left. Already maxed Sixth Sense and QB today. Sixth Sense is actually a REALLY good skill. I was able to spot the mags laid down by Snake from quite a bit ahead of me. Were you guys able to see them on your screen when we were linked? The range is supposed to be huge.

I can't help it, I'm just a kick magnet. :cry:

I ran into quite a few mags in one of the Groznyj Grad games, but I was pretty far away from everyone at the time. :oops:

I'm thinking I'll stick with AR+/Runner/Mono/Narc as my primary skillset. I tried Runner 2 instead of AR+, but wow, there was so much recoil I couldn't hit anyone. Almost makes me want to use AR+ 2 to see how accurate it gets, but I assume pretty much everyone uses Runner so I need that to keep up.

That was the best...that idiot t-bagged you, you said something, and he actually tried to get you kicked.

In all fairness, I didn't realize he was the host when I said that. Gave him a 1/5 later, anyway. :)

[Bavgate]

You and espy are kick magnets. People are idiots.

I noticed a huge difference from AR+ lvl 1 and 2. Level 2 is almost perfect.

Was my Monomania 3 helping you guys at all? Like, when I shot someone, were you guys able to take them out for me after, if I died?

I'm starting to use Stun Grenades in conjuction with Monomania, as a pseudo E. Locator. Blind people, take their stamina, and locate them at the same time. Pretty nifty.

[smiggity]

Wonder how many people are going to make it to MGO night.
Cant make it, gotta work.

[bigdaddybruce44]

You and espy are kick magnets. People are idiots.

Children, unfortunately. I imagine espy gets booted a lot, because as we know, his style of play really gets under the skin of morons. The only times I ever ask for a kick is when someone is being a complete dick about things.

[espy605]

Children, unfortunately. I imagine espy gets booted a lot, because as we know, his style of play really gets under the skin of morons. The only times I ever ask for a kick is when someone is being a complete dick about things.

I do, but I got booted last night for using NVG in a TSNK game.



I'm gonna play some Gaylo instead, nubs!!##
Did you notice I sniped that guy when he was t-bagging you for like five minutes? Haha. He wasn't too happy about that.
Was my Monomania 3 helping you guys at all? Like, when I shot someone, were you guys able to take them out for me after, if I died?
I think your monomania dies with you? I don't know. But when you're alive, it definitely helps as I can see where people are when you're fighting them. I think once you have Narc L3 you won't need Monomania.

I'm starting to use Stun Grenades in conjuction with Monomania, as a pseudo E. Locator. Blind people, take their stamina, and locate them at the same time. Pretty nifty.

Except for the fact you always blind me with them. It's still better than being grenaded by your own team though.

[Bavgate]

I think your monomania dies with you? I don't know. But when you're alive, it definitely helps as I can see where people are when you're fighting them. I think once you have Narc L3 you won't need Monomania.

Yeah, I'm taking Monomania off once I get Narc 3. I really like how Monomania 3 shows where the last guy I killed, spawns at for like two seconds. I can't get there fast enough, but it's a nice addition.

Except for the fact you always blind me with them. It's still better than being grenaded by your own team though.

Bleh, figured that would be the case. I blind myself with them too. I just immediately hide in my C. Box after I toss one to not be blinded.

[KingBroly]

Weather sucks in my area...AGAIN >_< preventing me from playing MGO makes me a sad panda.

Someone name the server, okay. I'll try my best to be there unless it's really coming down.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll try and be on tonight... all depends on collage homework.

[espy605]

Bleh, figured that would be the case. I blind myself with them too. I just immediately hide in my C. Box after I toss one to not be blinded.

Yeah but we don't know when or what you're throwing so we don't know when to hide.

Who is hosting tonight anyway? I have bad upload bandwidth. Whoever hosts, please include TSNK games with 3-5 minute rounds at least! Password protected would be good too.

[V4oLDbOY]

Yeah but we don't know when or what you're throwing so we don't know when to hide.

Who is hosting tonight anyway? I have bad upload bandwidth. Whoever hosts, please include TSNK games with 3-5 minute rounds at least! Password protected would be good too.

I'll be there, yeah put some tsnk games in. I'd like to try it out.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'll be hosting (game location info's in the OP) and I'd like to get recommendations on what to throw into the rotation for you guys. Include time limits, rounds, locations, etc., whatever you suggest would make for the most fun for everyone.

If we get only a handful of people, we'll try to go as long as we can, but if we get near a full roster, we'll go for two to three hours, hopefully.

[primetime]

Personally I'd like to see less RES and TSNK myself. For TDMs I like 30 to 40 tickets and don't particularly like MM. I'm game for anything though.

[espy605]

I'll be hosting (game location info's in the OP) and I'd like to get recommendations on what to throw into the rotation for you guys. Include time limits, rounds, locations, etc., whatever you suggest would make for the most fun for everyone.

If we get only a handful of people, we'll try to go as long as we can, but if we get near a full roster, we'll go for two to three hours, hopefully.

Bases on the map with the two sky scrapers (I forget the name) or BB, with 5 minute rounds, 3 rounds. No rescue. I would like 3 minute, 3 rounds of TSNK but I don't know what map, maybe MM (sorry prime). And GG for capture, maybe 3 minute, 3 rounds, too. If we play capture, I'm okay with any map.

[primetime]

That's just for TDM espy. It's all good. :grouphug:

[Thongsy]

I would like Capture, any map, except Ambush I hate that one. The one with the two tall buildings is C.U.S. well it isn't now but I don't remember the new name. Rounds go in sets of two so it's impossible to have three or five rounds, only 2, 4, 6, etc. Bases is also fun on bigger maps also, again, really any map but Ambush. I don't mind TDM but might as well make the TDM games Sneaking since they're almost the same thing with like a 10 minute time limit or so.

[metaly]

Tall buildings/CUS is Urban Ultimatum.

If possible, I'd like to disallow all weapons except for the M14EBR and stun grenades.

[primetime]

I would like Capture, any map, except Ambush I hate that one. The one with the two tall buildings is C.U.S. well it isn't now but I don't remember the new name. Rounds go in sets of two so it's impossible to have three or five rounds, only 2, 4, 6, etc. Bases is also fun on bigger maps also, again, really any map but Ambush. I don't mind TDM but might as well make the TDM games Sneaking since they're almost the same thing with like a 10 minute time limit or so.

The thing is though, I play SNK differently than TDM since I'm worried about finding Snake as well. I think a CAG game would be more concerned with playing SNK the way it was meant to be played instead of a straight up TDM.

[FriskyTanuki]

The game is up now. For a shortcut, just add Solid Tanuki to your friends list and jump to my game.

[Bavgate]

PW is cheapy, in case anyone doesn't know.

[Thirtyfour]

Thanks for accepting my clan application, Frisky. Good games tonight, guys. That Rescue Mission at Groznyj Grad got pretty intense. :D

[metaly]

Capture Mission... so long... :drool:

[Thongsy]

The Dino clan loves capture matches. Damn you espy, for naming us the Dino clan. Capture matches are always fun. It's all I really play now, top 100 in Capture mode. I'm determined to take the #1 spot and have a Kerotan rank.

[smiggity]

Me love Capture too!! Not quite top 100, but top 300 last I checked.

[Thirtyfour]

Oops, it was a Capture Mission. That was actually my first one. I've never seen it in Automatching. I didn't know where to take the Kerotan at first. :lol:

[espy605]

The Dino clan loves capture matches. Damn you espy, for naming us the Dino clan. Capture matches are always fun. It's all I really play now, top 100 in Capture mode. I'm determined to take the #1 spot and have a Kerotan rank.

Like you guys don't like that name.

[Dr. Strangepork]

Thanks for adding me to the clan and for some good play time. Unfortunately I was outclassed by a mile in ability. Still lots of fun.

I'll keep at it and hope I get better.

Thanks again!

Dr. SP

(PSN/MGO: ChizelMonkee)

[Thongsy]

Like you guys don't like that name.

Well we did consider remaking it to reflect the name you have given us. Actually it made me felt old when you bought up the subject of that show. Surpised you or Dauth watched the show.

[espy605]

Well we did consider remaking it to reflect the name you have given us. Actually it made me felt old when you bought up the subject of that show. Surpised you or Dauth watched the show.

I think the baby of that show was actually on one of those MTV Movie Awards shows. Even back then I remember being annoyed by that thing.

Thanks for adding me to the clan and for some good play time. Unfortunately I was outclassed by a mile in ability. Still lots of fun.

I'll keep at it and hope I get better.

Thanks again!

Dr. SP

(PSN/MGO: ChizelMonkee)

There are a lot of great players out there, I think the important thing is to just have fun with how you play. At one point I just started oil barreling into people.

[RelentlessRolento]

GGs guys... I still don't think the stats were right in most of the game with me getting the most headshots... I suck. I never am that good >_<

[Bavgate]

GGs guys... I still don't think the stats were right in most of the game with me getting the most headshots... I suck. I never am that good >_<

All those headshots were on me, I bet. I swear, you nailed me in the head a bunch of times.

By the way, finally got Narc 3. :]

[Thongsy]

How is Narc 3? I have Narc 2 but I don't notice anybody lighting up or anything, so I'll probably use Monomania instead unless it really is super awesome.

[KingBroly]

I had to quit out because my controller just kept locking up on me for some reason. I just kept stopping at random times.

[Bavgate]

Narc 3 is alright. I thought it would be better. Then again, I haven't had too much time with it yet, so I don't know too much about it.

But, it is REALLY awesome that I get to see where the enemy is aiming at me from. First match I jump in, I find a sneaking room with U.U. as the stage. I was on the red team, chilling on the white roof. Some guy was aiming at me from the red roof and I saw the blue line that was fixated on me. Thanks to that, I was able to roll the hell out of the way. It looks just like the line that you see when your teammates are linked and they're aiming at something.

Also, good news: Snake doesn't light up or anything when he's aiming at you. I've yet to try out a TSNK match, though. I'll see how it works later.

[KingBroly]

I know I can gain EXP for levels in Free Battle, but can I do the same for skills? I'm not going to Konami's stupid community page to figure this out.

Also, just got off of a Base Match, and depsite getting in there late, I finished first in the round, helping my team win 2-1. 131 points for me, and level 2.

[yukine]

Requesting to be added.

I totally suck though.

[FriskyTanuki]

I know I can gain EXP for levels in Free Battle, but can I do the same for skills? I'm not going to Konami's stupid community page to figure this out.

Also, just got off of a Base Match, and depsite getting in there late, I finished first in the round, helping my team win 2-1. 131 points for me, and level 2.
Of course, you're not restricted to any specific lobby, that I know of, when you want to level up skills. All I've played in are the free battle servers.

[espy605]

Narc 3 is alright. I thought it would be better. Then again, I haven't had too much time with it yet, so I don't know too much about it.

But, it is REALLY awesome that I get to see where the enemy is aiming at me from. First match I jump in, I find a sneaking room with U.U. as the stage. I was on the red team, chilling on the white roof. Some guy was aiming at me from the red roof and I saw the blue line that was fixated on me. Thanks to that, I was able to roll the hell out of the way. It looks just like the line that you see when your teammates are linked and they're aiming at something.

Also, good news: Snake doesn't light up or anything when he's aiming at you. I've yet to try out a TSNK match, though. I'll see how it works later.

That sounds awesome to me, especially if it shows you the line of sight, you don't even need to guess where they are.

I think TSNK is the same, then.

[Bavgate]

That sounds awesome to me, especially if it shows you the line of sight, you don't even need to guess where they are.

I think TSNK is the same, then.

Let's try out how it works in TSNK later. Aim at me once and I'm going to see what happens.

EDIT: So, I'm in this TSNK match and my KDR is 37:1 after round 10. We're halfway through round 11 and we get this message:

"Restarting due to host change."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Oh my god, I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. It was such a perfect room too. My teammates were smart and and communicated well. When I told them to do something, they did it. When they said they needed help, we came running. It was such a relaxing match after being so frustrated with a bunch of other idiots from earlier games. I was literally bitching at my TV thanks to those earlier dumbasses.

Oh well... At least I can confirm something: Narc 3 shows the stealth people aiming at me on TSNK matches! That's how my KDR was so high.

After a day of using Narc 3, I can safely say it is WELL worth it. Get it ASAP.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Geez, espy, it seems like you get booted everytime I see you in a room. The nerve of you to use CQC and the knife...you know...things that the developers put in the game!

[espy605]

Geez, espy, it seems like you get booted everytime I see you in a room. The nerve of you to use CQC and the knife...you know...things that the developers put in the game!

I did it to ONE guy that match. And he was a sniper camping out on one of the roofs. I guess going across the entire map, climbing up the building and knifing someone just sitting there looking into the scope is cheap.

Oh well... At least I can confirm something: Narc 3 shows the stealth people aiming at me on TSNK matches! That's how my KDR was so high.

After a day of using Narc 3, I can safely say it is WELL worth it. Get it ASAP. I'm surprised people didn't accuse you of glitching, whatever that is. Since Narc 3 is shared on SOP, I'm surprised your teammates didn't kill people aiming at you, reducing your KDR. Good thing CQC and knifing don't show up Narc 3 until it's too late, at least I think.

[Bavgate]

I'm surprised people didn't accuse you of glitching, whatever that is. Since Narc 3 is shared on SOP, I'm surprised your teammates didn't kill people aiming at you, reducing your KDR. Good thing CQC and knifing don't show up Narc 3 until it's too late, at least I think.

I'm surprised too. I could've sworn I was eventually going to get booted from the game, but every single person in that room was pretty cool. My teammates were usually divided in places to go. One stayed with me, two or three stayed on the roof, and two more went around trying to find the remaining people.

And no, CQC & knifing doesn't show up unless they're auto-aiming you.

One more thing: I figured out all the NVG spawn points for U.U. (4), M.M. (3), and maybe A.A (2?). For B.B. and G.G., I only know of a few spawn points for each. I think B.B. only has one spawn point to begin with, but G.G.'s spawns are hard as hell to find. One or two are in the factory and another is in a truck next to the man-cannon in the southwest corner (if you're viewing the map).

[RelentlessRolento]

I gotta level up my pistol next...

is runner actually any good? I'm almost at level 3, but I don't know how worth it is vs. using a weapon skill...

I'm thinking of my 2 mains being lvl-2 pistol/lvl-2 rifle or whatever else is worth it... I'm not a stealth player or sniper guy so ... um, yeah.

[espy605]

One more thing: I figured out all the NVG spawn points for U.U. (4), M.M. (3), and maybe A.A (2?). For B.B. and G.G., I only know of a few spawn points for each. I think B.B. only has one spawn point to begin with, but G.G.'s spawns are hard as hell to find. One or two are in the factory and another is in a truck next to the man-cannon in the southwest corner (if you're viewing the map).

I know the 4 for UU, MM I know 3 as well but it sometimes feels like I'm missing 1, AA I know 1 (map center) the other spots I get confused since they all look alike. BB I know 1. GG there are 2 in the factory (center and top corner). There's one IN the truck? Hmm.

Rolento for the way you play, runner probably isn't useful at all. L2 runner is okay, L3 is a waste unless you need it for capture and don't need weapons.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I did it to ONE guy that match. And he was a sniper camping out on one of the roofs. I guess going across the entire map, climbing up the building and knifing someone just sitting there looking into the scope is cheap.

That whole game, people on our team were getting booted. That other team was just a bunch of babies, apparently. At one point, it was down to like 7 on 3. Funny thing was, I had something like a 10/1 K/D, and yet, no one tried to get me booted.

[RelentlessRolento]

I know the 4 for UU, MM I know 3 as well but it sometimes feels like I'm missing 1, AA I know 1 (map center) the other spots I get confused since they all look alike. BB I know 1. GG there are 2 in the factory (center and top corner). There's one IN the truck? Hmm.

Rolento for the way you play, runner probably isn't useful at all. L2 runner is okay, L3 is a waste unless you need it for capture and don't need weapons.

thx... I never felt Runner actually helped my character much at all... I guess I'll be doing pistols and whatnot... from there on I will focus on grenades. I kinda wanna take a break from playing until they bring out the reward system since it will give me less wasted time other than leveling skills.

[Bavgate]

I know the 4 for UU, MM I know 3 as well but it sometimes feels like I'm missing 1, AA I know 1 (map center) the other spots I get confused since they all look alike. BB I know 1. GG there are 2 in the factory (center and top corner). There's one IN the truck? Hmm.

Yeah. I'll show you which truck if you're online later. I'll start teabagging the spot. :lol:

A.A. has three spots then, I guess. Completely forgot about the dead center NVG spawn point. The other two spots are relatively close to each character spawn. One is in the bombed out room before the room to where the Kerotan Frog is in TSNE. It has a ceiling above it. The other one is in the northwest corner (if you're looking at the map) in the bombed out area. No ceiling above it. I believe there's two pillars in that area, also. From the northeast spawn, turn right and run straight past the wrecked car and it's in that area.

Vague descriptions, but I'll show you the spots later.

[Dr. Strangepork]

So are we on for tonight? I'll try to be there.

[FriskyTanuki]

Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I'm too busy with work to host the game myself this week. Next week will be a definite, but if someone wants to host the game in the same place as is posted in the OP, feel free to do so.

[Bavgate]

Apparently Update 1.10 (available tomorrow?) will include all of this:

- Rewardshop opens
- Clanrooms
you can create clan rooms for your clan


- SOP changes
own traps will be shown to all of your team via sop


- new skills
2 new skills
box move which lets you move faster when youre in a box
quick recovery which let your teammates recover faster


-weapon changes
for M870 is a scope available
capacity of p90 got less from 300 to 250
Autoaim of pistols got less
Autoaim of assaults got less.
Autoaim of shotguns got better.
Costs of MK17 from 3000DP to 2500DP .
Costs of XM8' from 4000DP to 3500DP .
Costs of G3A3's from 4000DP to 5000DP
Costs of M14 EBR's freom 750DP to 3000DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Costs of M870 from 1000DP to 750DP.
SLUG from 5000DP to 2000DP .
V.RING from 3000DP to 2000DP .
E.LOCATER from 750DP to 1500DP .
Change of the range of the stunknife(less)?


Mailbox can now have 32 instead of 16


results screen changed


you can setup the volume of the background music

Also, the Expansion should be available.

[RelentlessRolento]

yes!!!!!!!!! I wonder if this will go live tonight...

I'll be a rewardshop whore.

:lol: and I love box move.

[metaly]

Costs of M14 EBR's freom 750DP to 3000DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still too cheap! (Also, it should cost more. :))

I like the thing about team traps being visible. During one sneaking mission on Bloodbath, stuff started exploding and I was like huh, how did Snake get grenades? Then I realized my teammate had just been setting down random claymores. #-o

[Bavgate]

Well, they're doing maintenance in about an hour and a half (6 PM PST) and it's going to last until 1 AM (PST). After the maintenance, I assume the download for the update will be available along with the Gene Expansion, if anyone wants it.

Shotgun scope sounds damn fun too. xD

[Thirtyfour]

Apparently Update 1.10 (available tomorrow?) will include all of this:

- Rewardshop opens
- Clanrooms
you can create clan rooms for your clan


- SOP changes
own traps will be shown to all of your team via sop


- new skills
2 new skills
box move which lets you move faster when youre in a box
quick recovery which let your teammates recover faster


-weapon changes
for M870 is a scope available
capacity of p90 got less from 300 to 250
Autoaim of pistols got less
Autoaim of assaults got less.
Autoaim of shotguns got better.
Costs of MK17 from 3000DP to 2500DP .
Costs of XM8' from 4000DP to 3500DP .
Costs of G3A3's from 4000DP to 5000DP
Costs of M14 EBR's freom 750DP to 3000DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Costs of M870 from 1000DP to 750DP.
SLUG from 5000DP to 2000DP .
V.RING from 3000DP to 2000DP .
E.LOCATER from 750DP to 1500DP .
Change of the range of the stunknife(less)?


Mailbox can now have 32 instead of 16


results screen changed


you can setup the volume of the background music

Also, the Expansion should be available.
Where did you get this info from?

According to Konami's E3 site, the Gene Expansion is $11.99, and the Gene Expansion Plus is $14.99. I wonder if we have to go through the MGO Shop or the PlayStation Store to get it.

[DrunknDragun]

Where did you get this info from?

According to Konami's E3 site, the Gene Expansion is $11.99, and the Gene Expansion Plus is $14.99. I wonder if we have to go through the MGO Shop or the PlayStation Store to get it.

Its on the official German mgo site.

[RelentlessRolento]

well, I'll be logging on at 4am est then.

[Thirtyfour]

Its on the official German mgo site.
Thanks.

[bigdaddybruce44]

3000DP for the M14 is still too low, but it'll do, in my opinion. At the very least, you have to get some kills and earn it.

[Bavgate]

This update is taking forever. :bomb:

[RelentlessRolento]

I just started downloading because my damn router has been acting weird... it seems to go fast if you do http download. I never recommend doing the torrent style download when you download right when it comes out because nobody has it to speed up download. guaranteed http download will always be faster within the first few hours of download.

[Bavgate]

Yeah, I figured I'd do the HTTP download instead. Just finished up the download and install.

MGO shop is down though because of high traffic. I wanted to check out the Gene Expansion.

EDIT: No more throwdown + knife stun. Knife stun was nerfed bad.

[RelentlessRolento]

you can use this link on the PC as it connects better for the reward shop... nice to see facepaint a new option :)

badass!

[smiggity]

I for one am glad they fixed the knife stun. I was hating getting stunned from like 5 feetaway. Do the rewards frfom the shop have any impact on your gameplay? Or is it just aesthetics? Im workin like mad this weekend but yall can catch me on some CAP next week....

[Thirtyfour]

3000DP for the M14 is still too low, but it'll do, in my opinion. At the very least, you have to get some kills and earn it.
Agreed. I remember being in a room where everybody but me was using the M14.

Anyway, who's in for the expansion? I will be, assuming the 1.1 update ever finishes downloading.

[Bavgate]

I'll end up picking up the expansion later tonight or tomorrow. I want to see what the hell this "Survival Mode" is.

[KingBroly]

There are 2 new skills that show up as ????'s for me. I'd hate to think you need the expansion to get them though.

Oh, the update took me over 2 hours to get. Everyone starts at 500 reward points (Or at least that's what I had).

[Bavgate]

There are 2 new skills that show up as ????'s for me. I'd hate to think you need the expansion to get them though.

Oh, the update took me over 2 hours to get. Everyone starts at 500 reward points (Or at least that's what I had).

Click on them. There are requirements to unlock them.
Box Runner requires that you stay in your box for a hour. Doesn't matter if you already logged a hour in the box prior to the update. You need another hour to unlock it. The other one, you have to recover 50 teammates or something. Slips my mind, at the moment.

Everyone that created a character between June 12th and July 16th received 500 reward points.

[bigdaddybruce44]

EDIT: No more throwdown + knife stun. Knife stun was nerfed bad.

That bites the big one. I was starting to fall in love with doing that. It amazes me how careless people are in this game. They run around corners without a care. I'll miss the throwdown/stun knife combo.

Agreed. I remember being in a room where everybody but me was using the M14.

Seriously. Lately, I was avoiding DP games. It's just silly having everyone run around with automatic sniper rifles. Like I said, at least now, you have to earn it.

I'll end up picking up the expansion later tonight or tomorrow. I want to see what the hell this "Survival Mode" is.

I'm with you. I'll probably buy it and play after Burn Notice. I'm curious about this Survival Mode, as well.

[RelentlessRolento]

forgot to link the shop in my older post:

http://mgo2web.konami.com/us/reward/html/index.html

it's temporarily closed, but whenever it's up, you can go there.

I'll be buying some red sunglasses later.

also, I'm tempted to go for the box skill :)

[espy605]

EDIT: No more throwdown + knife stun. Knife stun was nerfed bad.

So how does it work now?

[Bavgate]

So how does it work now?

You practically have to FPV aim at them to get the stun. The range is completely gone. There's also no auto-aim with the knife when you're targeting a stunned player.

[espy605]

You practically have to FPV aim at them to get the stun. The range is completely gone. There's also no auto-aim with the knife when you're targeting a stunned player.

I don't know if I'll be playing any more then. I can understand nerfing the distance when everyone is standing, but nerfing it when they're thrown down or disabling auto-aim when someone is already stunned? Seems lame to me.

[Bavgate]

I don't know if I'll be playing any more then. I can understand nerfing the distance when everyone is standing, but nerfing it when they're thrown down or disabling auto-aim when someone is already stunned? Seems lame to me.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I'm on TSNE, I throw a guy down, crouch and try to knife stun him and he's still moving. I was actually starting to like the knife too.

[metaly]

Sounds like Konami just got sick of espy's cheating ways!

Joking, of course. But I don't doubt that the change is just Konami appeasing the half of the player base that complains about getting knifed all the time. Like someone said, people should just learn to be more careful and not play like this is UT.

[espy605]

Sounds like Konami just got sick of espy's cheating ways!

Joking, of course. But I don't doubt that the change is just Konami appeasing the half of the player base that complains about getting knifed all the time. Like someone said, people should just learn to be more careful and not play like this is UT.

In all the games I've played, 50 or 60+ hours, I've only come across two other knife players. But when people complain I guess they complain loud.

Hmm I have 3+ hours in a cardboard box, the skill isn't active for me though.

[Bavgate]

Hmm I have 3+ hours in a cardboard box, the skill isn't active for me though.

Any box time prior to the update doesn't count towards the skill unlocking. You have to do another hour. I was pissed about that too. :bomb:

[bigdaddybruce44]

Wow, this entire Konami ID/MGO Shop/crappy infrastructure is a nightmare. If Konami is going to have the nerve to not simply integrate with the PSN, they could have at least whipped something together that actually works well.

[KingBroly]

So the servers I've heard are back up and I'm awaiting impressions on the expansion. Meryl/Johnny aren't characters you pick, but it's basically like Sneaking where players randomly become them. I've also heard you can only earn Reward Points for 4 hours on Saturday in Survival (Not sure).

[espy605]

So the servers I've heard are back up and I'm awaiting impressions on the expansion. Meryl/Johnny aren't characters you pick, but it's basically like Sneaking where players randomly become them. I've also heard you can only earn Reward Points for 4 hours on Saturday in Survival (Not sure).


Is there a Meryl Johnny mode? What's the bonus of being them?

[Bavgate]

One team gets Johnny and another team gets Meryl. Whoever made the room assigns which team gets which character and then it's totally random as to who gets to play as them.

I think they're available in almost every game mode.

http://www.konami.jp/mgo/us/manual/index.php?m1=9&img=s

There's the bonuses that they have.

Sounds like Meryl has Narc 3, Monomania 3, and Handgun+ 3, along with some other stuff. The D.E. (L.B.) is pretty awesome from what I've heard. The thing can auto-aim lock on from about 16 units away.

Johnny sounds like he has an uber Sixth Sense. I've also heard that he craps himself after getting three consecutive kills.

Also, in DP games, they have unique weapons available for them to buy. For example, the Barret .50 Cal sniper rifle Johnny used in the main game, is available for 10k DP.

Take that with a grain of salt, though. I don't have the expansion myself so I can't vouch for it.

And this update sucks the big one. I've seen people walking around stealth camo'd in non-TSNE matches.

[Thongsy]

Damn, I go away for a week and stun knife gets nerf, and the expanison is released. Some of the stuff sounds interesting, but others not so much. Not sure if I want to continue even playing the game at this point, I kinda lost my love for it now, and 11.99 is expensive kinda expensive for what is basically three maps, even if one of them is Brown Town.

At least the m14 is now 3k, makes it so you have to earn it. There was no point in nerfing the stun knife, and each time people got stun from five feet away was not cause of it's range, but of fucking lag the game has. Hopefully it hasn't killed the cqc/knife players as now everybody will just spray and pray now.

[metaly]

So I heard the expansion release destroyed Konami's servers?

[MSUHitman]

Yeah is this even playable? I guess I need to create my character again since apparently nothing from the beta carried over. I need to play tomorrow night so I have something to talk about on my podcast recording Sunday.

Can I play without the expansion? How much does the expansion cost?

Thanks in advance.

[Bavgate]

The expansion did nuke Konami's servers, because of the high traffic. Sort of like how the servers were getting blown to bits with the Gunmetal 40GB bundle. Konami really needs to get their shit together and get some new servers. They had to resort to a goddamn lottery, where 490 people were allowed to purchase the expansion per hour. If you logged into the shop and it shows the maintenance screen, you weren't one of the lucky ones and your IP was banned for an hour. The next hour, you try again. What a giant cluster-fuck.

As for MSUHitman's questions:

The servers are back up and fully playable. The expansion is optional, as it only has three new levels, the option to create girl characters (yes, we have to pay for girl characters >_>), and being able to play as Johnny or Meryl (random choice in games).

Expansion costs $11.99, but the $14.99 expansion includes an extra character slot (probably for if anyone wants to go ahead and make a girl character).

I think I'm going to stay away from MGO until update 1.11 (or w/e the number is) comes out, because I can't believe they messed up this bad and have people walking around like they're stealth camo'd in regular non-TSNE matches. I know it's a glitch, but it's a pretty bad one.

[bigdaddybruce44]

While $12 is a bit steep, it unfortunately seems to fall inline with the current prices for downloadable content for an A+ title. Around $10 seems to be the going rate for a handful of maps, and in this case, you're also getting the extra playable characters and such.

And yes, this entire MGO experience has been a cluster fuck on behalf of Konami. A company like them should really have a better infrastructure in place. I would expect this out of some small, indy studio, not a major player of the past few decades.

[smiggity]

The price of the expansion does not bother me as much as say, COD4, since MGO was more or less free with MGS4.

[primetime]

The expansion did nuke Konami's servers, because of the high traffic. Sort of like how the servers were getting blown to bits with the Gunmetal 40GB bundle. Konami really needs to get their shit together and get some new servers. They had to resort to a goddamn lottery, where 490 people were allowed to purchase the expansion per hour. If you logged into the shop and it shows the maintenance screen, you weren't one of the lucky ones and your IP was banned for an hour. The next hour, you try again. What a giant cluster-fuck.

As for MSUHitman's questions:

The servers are back up and fully playable. The expansion is optional, as it only has three new levels, the option to create girl characters (yes, we have to pay for girl characters >_>), and being able to play as Johnny or Meryl (random choice in games).

Expansion costs $11.99, but the $14.99 expansion includes an extra character slot (probably for if anyone wants to go ahead and make a girl character).

I think I'm going to stay away from MGO until update 1.11 (or w/e the number is) comes out, because I can't believe they messed up this bad and have people walking around like they're stealth camo'd in regular non-TSNE matches. I know it's a glitch, but it's a pretty bad one.

I too think I will hold off for a while, especially after hearing that. I have Bad Company to play anyway ;)

[KingBroly]

I think I'll go buy that Warhawk expansion instead. I need to get back into that.

[Bavgate]

I'll just be playing CoD4 and maybe some Team Fortress 2. I'll still be around for CAG nights. Just don't want to play casually everyday until they fix everything.

[RelentlessRolento]

I noticed I got 10 reward points for being on a winning team of TDM last night... I though reward points were only given out for survival games?

[Thirtyfour]

I think you get 10 points once a day just for logging in.

[Esper]

I think you get 10 points once a day just for logging in.

Yep, I got another 10 just for logging in today. Up to 520 pts. :)

Lately, I've been lvl grinding two new skills - the 'box move' and 'quick recovery'. 'Box move' - I think it's been 8+ hrs and I'm still in lvl 2, almost there to lvl 3.

I've seen lvl 3 in action and it's really cool. It's a box charge that sends your opponent flying and has the same impact of a drum can. It does not kill your opponent's s