Persona 4: Released and Ready 2 Play! Metacritic Score -- A Whoppin' 93!!!

[donburns99]

Where are you located? It seems like all of the P4's shipped from Philadelphia.My game, design works and expansion pack all came from New Castle, DE, US.

[MSI Magus]

I am in Toledo Ohio area. Didnt pay attention to where the package shipped from.

[Pck21]

Where are you located? It seems like all of the P4's shipped from Philadelphia.

Yea that's where mine shipped from too. Then it went to Maryland and now it's in Kentucky. I'm not sure why, but it seems to be taking a early winter break vacation if you ask me.

[zephie]

I just got a robo-call from GS telling me I can pick up my copy this afternoon. Sweet, glad I planned ahead and got some leave from work tomorrow.
Still got the last third of a term paper to write, though.

Am I the only one who likes the AI control in P3 and plans to leave it enabled in P4? I love how quickly the battles move with only having to select one action per turn.

No, you are not alone. I think it was competent for the most part in P3, though there were some hiccups that nearly got me wiped out. As for P4, I'll be starting it with AI set to on as well.

[dracula]

is the art book worth paying an extra $18

its $53 shipped from pay asia but i ordered it on amazon for $35 but it says it wont ship until december 15th, almost certainly the second shipment. if you already have the artbook, after seeing it, would you pay $18 for it if it didnt come free? stupid question i guess.

[donburns99]

is the art book worth paying an extra $18

its $53 shipped from pay asia but i ordered it on amazon for $35 but it says it wont ship until december 15th, almost certainly the second shipment. if you already have the artbook, after seeing it, would you pay $18 for it if it didnt come free? stupid question i guess.Why pay $18 for the art book when you can get it free with the pre-order?

Especially when your Amazon order already contains the art book.

[Ryuukishi]

is the art book worth paying an extra $18

its $53 shipped from pay asia but i ordered it on amazon for $35 but it says it wont ship until december 15th, almost certainly the second shipment. if you already have the artbook, after seeing it, would you pay $18 for it if it didnt come free? stupid question i guess.
When exactly did you order from Amazon? Up to and including yesterday, if you ordered P4 you will definitely get the artbook, even if the shipment is delayed until after the release date.

Judging by other recent Atlus releases, you may still get the preorder bonus if you order in the first few days after the release date. (It's not like they burn any extra preorder bonuses, they just keep sending them with new orders until they run out, however long that takes. R-Type Command is still shipping with its preorder bonus apparently.) If you ordered today, my guess is you would almost certainly get the artbook.

[dracula]

When exactly did you order from Amazon? Up to and including yesterday, if you ordered P4 you will definitely get the artbook, even if the shipment is delayed until after the release date.

Judging by other recent Atlus releases, you may still get the preorder bonus if you order in the first few days after the release date. (It's not like they burn any extra preorder bonuses, they just keep sending them with new orders until they run out, however long that takes. R-Type Command is still shipping with its preorder bonus apparently.) If you ordered today, my guess is you would almost certainly get the artbook.

you just made my day.

[Draekon]

About an hour in and it's okay so far. Not really liking the voices as much as Persona 3 as these sound a bit off, especially Chie.

Also like playing it on my PS3 with Fullscreen enabled. It doesn't really look like it stretches the image and I prefer it to the 4:3 traditional view. The animated cutscenes looks pretty much perfect too in this mode.

[bjstucker]

I am in Toledo Ohio area. Didnt pay attention to where the package shipped from.

So am I.

I picked this up too with the Strat guide (prob won't use it though).

[Rodimus]

Mine also shipped from Philly, I was hoping to get it today but it didn't show. Doesn't really matter since I have to work.

I did look for a guide today, infact I had quite an adventure. I went to 5 diffrent GS and came to understand that they're hard as hell to find (at least around me.) I should've saved the hassle and just ordered it from Amazon w/ my game. Each store I went to only got one or didn't get any. Long story short I finally found one. I'll post impressions once I get a chance to look through it. But it's much thinner than I expected it to be.

[Moxio]

Someone type up a mini-review, daymit! >:^$

[zewone]

It's pretty cool.

[MSI Magus]

So am I.

I picked this up too with the Strat guide (prob won't use it though).

You suck being in Toledo and not having a CML!

And heres a question for those of you with everything. How does the social XPack pack work? Its not like the PS2 has a hard drive to load the info to.

[thelonepig]

You suck being in Toledo and not having a CML!

And heres a question for those of you with everything. How does the social XPack pack work? Its not like the PS2 has a hard drive to load the info to.

It's not an addendum to the game, just a bonus calendar, plushie, tshirt, and soundtrack.

[MSI Magus]

It's not an addendum to the game, just a bonus calendar, plushie, tshirt, and soundtrack.

Ah since it was called social link Xpack I assumed it would actually be.....well an Xpack.

[donburns99]

Ah since it was called social link Xpack I assumed it would actually be.....well an Xpack.It's more of an expansion pack of swag. In a way, I guess an expansion pack to your real life social link. xD

I personally can't justify the latter, but I'm all for the former. ^ ^

[Draekon]

Mine actually shipped from Indianapolis.


Someone type up a mini-review, daymit! >:^$

Teddie is awesome. That. is. all.

Anyways, voices aren't quite as good as Persona 3 in my opinion. Chie to me is the biggest offender but some really do sound absolutely fine. Of course it's all personal preference.

It's been a while so I don't remember the exact specifics in battle in Persona 3. However I do remember there was a 'extra attack' you get for attacking an enemies weak point. Before I think it could be used over and over, but this time it only allows an extra attack the first time. My first couple battles were about an hour and a half into the game, both of which were solo but not difficult. Although you could die at the second one if you weren't observant or careful, but it wasn't hard. I still can't open the menu yet so I can't comment on stuff in there, although I should be able to very soon. Everything so far is pretty similar to Persona 3 though.

The story itself so far started out a little slow. You're a transfer student from the city into the middle of nowhere. However not too long after you arrive someone dies and it begins to pick up about an hour in or so as you're just thrown into the fray of things. Saying anymore and it's spoilers, so I'll leave it at that. It's pretty interesting to say the least once you're about two hours in and really makes me want to play more.


You also get a lot of choices in dialogue, which is nice. I don't remember anywhere near this many from Persona 3. It's particularly nice and the responses seem to be all voiced for the most part. Sometimes if you answer in a particular way, you'll get an increase in a particular area. Knowledge is one just like Persona 3, but I think Understanding is a new one that I've hit on a couple times already.

Haven't had a chance to touch social links yet and I assume they're in the game like Persona 3. Though the characters I've met so far are fairly interesting so long as you can bypass any voice overs that may feel out of place to you.


Oh and so far I think I've seen around 5 animated cutscenes. Hopefully this trend continues into the game.

[Moxio]

It's pretty cool.
Whew! Load off my mind. 8-)

[donburns99]

Whew! Load off my mind. 8-)
Direct and straight to the point. Can one really ask for more? ;)

[Rodimus]

When I first saw Teddie my eyes rolled. Is he really that awesome? Cause he looks utterly ridiculous. I know he's some kinda plush toy but I can't get over how unappealling a character he is at first glance.

I skipped through the guide and didn't noticed Thor on the list of personas. To me that's very disapointing cause he's always been my favorite.

[Draekon]

When I first saw Teddie my eyes rolled. Is he really that awesome? Cause he looks utterly ridiculous. I know he's some kinda plush toy but I can't get over how unappealling a character he is at first glance.

I skipped through the guide and didn't noticed Thor on the list of personas. To me that's very disapointing cause he's always been my favorite.

Well I knew he was apart of the game for to begin with from pictures and such and was like, "Really...?" Then I started playing and met Teddie. After a little bit Teddie started forming a personality and it's been pretty cool so far as a character. Of course I could easily be let down, but I've enjoyed his lines so far.

Maybe the fact that he's so utterly ridiculous is the reason that I think he's so awesome.

[Moxio]

Reviews have particularly praised the voice-acting for Teddie, stating it has been a huge factor in keeping him likeable instead of annoying.

[Rodimus]

I haven't played the game yet so I base my opnions of Teddie purely through first impressions. I would be over joyed to find out that he's acctuably a likable character. In P3 I thought I was gonna hate Ken but ended up liking him. Hopfully that's the case here.

[happy]

The real question is can you build a social link with teddy? Or is it like the dog that you just take for a walk.

[Rodimus]

From what I understand Teddie is not one of the Social Links. In fact I think he's the only team member who is not.

[the_punisher]

Teddie is awesome, don't worry. It does get a little tedious talking to him sometimes, but he's awesome :)

[JEKKI]

got my guide today! man for a game that's supposed to be bigger than the predecessor they managed to make the guidebook smaller

O_o

anyway, amazon delivery estimate friday, but I wont have time until sunday TT_TT

[fatbeer]

I like a smaller Doublejump guide. Those Disgaea guides are too big and it's full of useless info. All you really need is level and item formulas. Those huge Disgaea guides tend to break more frequent then their other guides due to page count. It's spine is too small to support it, as result the pages will fall apart.

As long as it cover main story and sidequests well, I don't mind a smaller guide.

[Rodimus]

These small guides have uber tiny text. But at least it's not big and clunky like normal guides. It can sit on my lap while I play without being annoying.

I heard that Chie's voice actor sounds too old at times.

IGN review: 9.0

[cindersphere]

Got mine from gamestop from a preorder and they "didn't have any more art books" though there were 2 behind the counter. You think atlus will send me one if I email them like they did with the nocturne soundtrack.

[donburns99]

Got mine from gamestop from a preorder and they "didn't have any more art books" though there were 2 behind the counter. You think atlus will send me one if I email them like they did with the nocturne soundtrack....did you mention to them that there were 2 behind the counter? It's not like they can say they're reserved for pre-orders.. since that what you were there for.

[cindersphere]

The manager explicitly told me they were his. The manager is a dick.

[donburns99]

The manager explicitly told me they were his.That's lame... well there is another reason to not pre-order at places like that... the employees, or in this case the manager, can just swipe them for themselves.

It's possible they actually were his, but I'd find it hard to believe that the manager pre-ordered two and the store only received enough to cover his. :roll:

Sorry to hear that happened, it seems to be a common problem with Gamestop and similar branches.

[cindersphere]

Yeah, I only got it there because I had a gift card.Oh well, easy come easy go.

[squid]

I don't usually pick up orders with GS if they 'ran out' of a preorder gift. I haven't had that problem in a while though, the employees are usually really cool. I have an extra art book I might be willing to part with if Atlus doesn't work out.



I have barely gotten through the beginning.. I guess I remember this from Persona 3, but wow.. it's well over an hour in before I feel like I am doing anything.
I don't mine Chie's voice, but for some reason Nanako's gets on my nerves.

[zephie]

I just got to the point where you can first access the menu (did Atlus run out of green triangle button icons?). Really digging the menu design, pretty slick. The game does start out pretty slow, but I'm loving every minute of it. About the VA, I personally like it a lot so far but I can see how some people would be less forgiving. Only problem I have with it is that Chie doesn't use contractions often. I guess that's more of an issue with the writers rather than the VAs.

...for some reason Nanako's gets on my nerves.

But she's so cute! Especially when she's singing that Junes jingle.

[BlueSwim]

Does anybody know where I can find the track listing and artist info to the soundtrack CD that came with P4? I know it's printed on the back of the P4 manual, but I'm trying to find it someplace where I can just quickly copy and paste the info into my music player instead of typing it by hand.

[ricoraney]

Those T-shirts are hot! :hot: Where did you get them?

It's cool that P4 comes with a soundtrack CD too.
I got one from Gamestop! A few months back when they were doing pre-orders.

[cindersphere]

I don't usually pick up orders with GS if they 'ran out' of a preorder gift. I haven't had that problem in a while though, the employees are usually really cool. I have an extra art book I might be willing to part with if Atlus doesn't work out.



I have barely gotten through the beginning.. I guess I remember this from Persona 3, but wow.. it's well over an hour in before I feel like I am doing anything.
I don't mine Chie's voice, but for some reason Nanako's gets on my nerves.
Yeah one of the GS are crap and I reserved it there cause it was closer. Thanks for the offer. I will see what they say. Hopefully it is good news from them.

[Draekon]

I heard that Chie's voice actor sounds too old at times.

That's pretty much my peeve with her voice actor. When I first heard her, I immediately thought the voice sounded way too old for her.


EDIT: Also, I thought people would like to know that when you enter the "other world" in this game, it's actually looks like it is made to work with 3D glasses.

[pete5883]

Does anybody know where I can find the track listing and artist info to the soundtrack CD that came with P4? I know it's printed on the back of the P4 manual, but I'm trying to find it someplace where I can just quickly copy and paste the info into my music player instead of typing it by hand.
You've never heard of CDDB? I'm sure there's plenty of other programs that use it, I use CDex. You just put in the CD, click a button, and it retrieves the artist, album, and track names from a server somewhere.

Also, for those who care:
P3 Hero = Minato Arisato
P4 Hero = Seta Souji

[MSI Magus]

That's lame... well there is another reason to not pre-order at places like that... the employees, or in this case the manager, can just swipe them for themselves.

It's possible they actually were his, but I'd find it hard to believe that the manager pre-ordered two and the store only received enough to cover his. :roll:

Sorry to hear that happened, it seems to be a common problem with Gamestop and similar branches.

I mentioned earlier here about how a guy at gamestop was loading this woman who he was flirting with kid up with free swag that was supposed to be for pre orders. Well what I didnt mention was the guy also bragged to her about how she shouldnt think its anything special because he just ebays most of it anyways. He also told me sorry dude I bought them all my self and resold them already when I asked if they had any of the penny guides left in the back.

[Rodimus]

EDIT: Also, I thought people would like to know that when you enter the "other world" in this game, it's actually looks like it is made to work with 3D glasses.

Awesome, I just got a pair with a Transformers comic, so what the hell, I'll give it a shot.

Kinda off topic but I received the Japanese version of Persona 2: Innocent Sin the other day. I'm gonna try and figure out a way to get the translation patch to work on it, and play it off my Playstation 2. I suck at this stuff but hopefully I can do it.

[movieman2742]

Anyone else having issues with this game playing? I have a small ps2 and I tried three copies of this game and they all say "Please insert a Playstation or Playstation 2 format disc."

I even purchased a brand new ps2 system (the newer model ones from the past few months) and it still says the same thing. At least I was able to return the system. I find it odd that it happened with three copies in a row. Maybe my store got a bad batch of games?

[donburns99]

Awesome, I just got a pair with a Transformers comic, so what the hell, I'll give it a shot.

Kinda off topic but I received the Japanese version of Persona 2: Innocent Sin the other day. I'm gonna try and figure out a way to get the translation patch to work on it, and play it off my Playstation 2. I suck at this stuff but hopefully I can do it.If you need any help, just send a PM. Be sure to include if you have a fat/slim and a import PS2/mod chip/slide card/flip top also.


Anyone else having issues with this game playing? I have a small ps2 and I tried three copies of this game and they all say "Please insert a Playstation or Playstation 2 format disc."

I even purchased a brand new ps2 system (the newer model ones from the past few months) and it still says the same thing. At least I was able to return the system. I find it odd that it happened with three copies in a row. Maybe my store got a bad batch of games?Hmm, I was going to recommend cleaning the laser eye, but you also tried it on a new PS2...

How odd, you could go to your local game store and see if they'll test it on one of their systems. I'd say it's more likely your PS2 is shot and you purchased a bad PS2, than the store getting a bad batch of games. You never know though.

[RynoZebz]

I just picked this up. I'm new to the series but it looked really cool and seems to be reviewing very well. My only concern is whether or not this will work on my PS3. I have one of the 80gb systems that had the backwards compatibility neutered. It has the emotion engine and for the most part I've had limited issues. But I haven't been able to find anything anywhere that has indicated whether this title was going to work for me. Just wondering what your experiences have been. Thanks!

[Draekon]

From what I understand Teddie is not one of the Social Links. In fact I think he's the only team member who is not.

He's a social link or so says the guide. It is: The Star

[Rodimus]

He's a social link or so says the guide. It is: The Star

You're right he is. He's one that upgrades automaticlly through the story, kinda like the creepy little kid in P3. I just read the guide wrong.

[donburns99]

He's a social link or so says the guide. It is: The StarHmm, off-topic, but why do spoilers show in email notifications? The idea works wonderfully on the forums, but it shows the text as normal in the email. :-s

[Draekon]

Better be careful about spoilers then. :P

At least it wasn't anything about the plot.

[RynoZebz]

Don't mean to double post but I didn't want my question to get lost at the bottom of the page.

Does this work on PS3? I have an 80gb with limited backwards compatibility. Sony's site is no help so I was wondering if anyone here tried. Thanks guys!!

[donburns99]

Don't mean to double post but I didn't want my question to get lost at the bottom of the page.

Does this work on PS3? I have an 80gb with limited backwards compatibility. Sony's site is no help so I was wondering if anyone here tried. Thanks guys!!Check the GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/persona4/forum.html?tag=tabs;forums) forums. I tend to notice a lot of threads about PS3 compatibility when it comes to PS2 games that have been release recently.

Here's a specific thread from there that may help. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/persona4/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-47049802&pid=945498&tag=topics;title)

Edit: And here's another thread. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/persona4/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-47049598&pid=945498&tag=topics;title)

Edit #2: And another thread, mentioning bad discs. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/persona4/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-47041513&pid=945498&tag=topics;title)

[RynoZebz]

Thanks, man. These are my main video game forums. Google failed me for the most part. I appreciate the help!

[Pck21]

I'm scared to open this game because of how epic and time consuming it might be come lol. I have the 60GB so it should work play the game fine right?

[donburns99]

I'm scared to open this game because of how epic and time consuming it might be come lol. I have the 60GB so it should work play the game fine right?Best way to find out is to try.

[cindersphere]

Played for about three hours these last 2 days and this game is really fun. I like the whole my guardian is a detective and this seems like a supernatural mystery. But seriously that Junes song is going to get annoying.

[Draekon]

I'm scared to open this game because of how epic and time consuming it might be come lol. I have the 60GB so it should work play the game fine right?

Playing the game fine so far on my 60GB.

[meerkatgamer]

Anyone else having issues with this game playing? I have a small ps2 and I tried three copies of this game and they all say "Please insert a Playstation or Playstation 2 format disc."

I even purchased a brand new ps2 system (the newer model ones from the past few months) and it still says the same thing. At least I was able to return the system. I find it odd that it happened with three copies in a row. Maybe my store got a bad batch of games?
It seems some people are having this trouble someone complained about this on the atlus forums and the gamefaqs forums so you might need to go where you got it and exchange it for another one and hopefully it's a good one.

[Pck21]

Playing the game fine so far on my 60GB.

My 60GB won't read it so far. :( Do I need to exchange it then?

EDIT: I've tried it multiple times and my PS3 won't recognize the disc. I can put it in all of my other PS2 and PS3 games and they read just fine. Do I contact Amazon for a replacement?

Edit #2: I checked the disc to see if anything appeared wrong with it and there does seem to be an inconsistency around the edges. On the clear edges themselves are small bumps that are scattered throughout. Does anyone else have these "rough" bumps on their game disc or does my disc the only one to have herpes?

Edit #3: I feel stupid. I was putting in the music CD, not the game DVD. Awesome. Crisis averted!

[pete5883]

Near the end of the first dungeon. How could this game do so many little things wrong that 3 did right? All gameplay-related:

When doing a triple fusion, you still have to scroll past Personas you've already selected, instead of automatically skipping them because theres no reason you should ever need to select them.
You have to buy an item to go back to the bottom of the dungeon instead of using a warp.
You no longer get healed on the ground floor. Old news, but I like to get a lot of fighting done at once without having to go back to the adventure part of the game.
Enemies detect you even if you sneak up behind them, which means you usually don't get the bonus for hitting them first.
The item menu no longer shows the description of items/equipment etc. at all times, you have to push a button to see it, which pushes other things off the screen.
They got rid of the experience, money, and health boosts from the post-battle shuffle. This one pisses me off the most. Really takes the fun out of grinding.
On top of that, picking the wrong shuffle card loses your experience, yen and items. This would be fine if the rewards were greater, but I certainly can skip an Apsaras if it means keeping my exp.
You have to waste time stopping and opening doors around the dungeon, slowing the pace of the game.


Like I said, these are small, but they're all definitely steps back from P3. Also, I now feel stupid for depending P3's teammate AI. I'm convinced they made the AI dumber in P4, as my teammates now use wind even when they know the enemy is strong to wind. SEES would never pull that shit.

Anyone know how skipping floors works? Do they always let you return to the last floor you reached, or do they only let you return to boss floors?



Also: the music is great, but we'll see how I feel after hour 50.

[happy]

Near the end of the first dungeon. How could this game do so many little things wrong that 3 did right? All gameplay-related:


You have to buy an item to go back to the bottom of the dungeon instead of using a warp.
You no longer get healed on the ground floor. Old news, but I like to get a lot of fighting done at once without having to go back to the adventure part of the game.
Enemies detect you even if you sneak up behind them, which means you usually don't get the bonus for hitting them first.


Like I said, these are small, but they're all definitely steps back from P3. Also, I now feel stupid for depending P3's teammate AI. I'm convinced they made the AI dumber in P4, as my teammates now use wind even when they know the enemy is strong to wind. SEES would never pull that shit.

Anyone know how skipping floors works? Do they always let you return to the last floor you reached, or do they only let you return to boss floors?



Also: the music is great, but we'll see how I feel after hour 50.

These I actually think will help, I always felt cheap being able to go on the last day of the month and do all my fighting, it will force more planning in terms of dungeon usage (how many days can you afford to go) and being more careful in battle (health takes on new value). May actually inspire me to use items in an rpg, which is rare (with the exception of revival before a spell becomes available).

[BlueSwim]

You've never heard of CDDB? I'm sure there's plenty of other programs that use it, I use CDex. You just put in the CD, click a button, and it retrieves the artist, album, and track names from a server somewhere.

Also, for those who care:
P3 Hero = Minato Arisato
P4 Hero = Seta Souji

I use that service all the time!:lol: But unfortunately, the Windows Media Player and Zune databases don't have any info for the bonus CD at the moment. I'm not the fastest typist in the world so I was trying to a quicker way of getting things done.:lol:

I'm glad to finally know what their real names are. That's been driving me crazy!

[pete5883]

I use that service all the time!:lol: But unfortunately, the Windows Media Player and Zune databases don't have any info for the bonus CD at the moment. I'm not the fastest typist in the world so I was trying to a quicker way of getting things done.:lol:

I'm glad to finally know what their real names are. That's been driving me crazy!
Well CDex (http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/) found the tracks for me, no problem.

It seems there are other prizes from Shuffle Time other than Persona, but looks like its very rare (and has its own set of punishments.)

To answer my own earlier question: you can always return to the highest floor you've reached. This is kind of a relief for me, because I can leave anytime. The warp points, though, were a great reminder that I should save before I lose an hour of progress.

[Pck21]

I've only played the game for about an hour but I am in LOVE with it. Spectacular story, characters, and setting. I can't wait to play this one through and then move on to P3. Great series.

[MSI Magus]

Just got the $30 amazon art book and I am really dissapointed. Its kind flimsy for $30 and indeed was paper back. Its also the exact same art book the Japanese got....they didnt even bother translating the damn thing to English. Essentially all they did was take the Japanese extra stock and dump it on Amazon for $30. Pretty book but for $30 disappointing.

[donburns99]

Just got the $30 amazon art book and I am really dissapointed. Its kind flimsy for $30 and indeed was paper back. Its also the exact same art book the Japanese got....they didnt even bother translating the damn thing to English. Essentially all they did was take the Japanese extra stock and dump it on Amazon for $30. Pretty book but for $30 disappointing.Well, nothing against the rest of your points, but the photos on Amazon clearly hinted that it was the Japanese Design Works.

If you don't like it that much, you could most likely flip it for more without any trouble.

[Krymner]

I'm really liking the game so far. There's a few things that annoy me, many of which are in Pete's post above, but I've gotten used to most of them and accept them now. Being able to control the full party is almost worth it in itself. It also makes me pay closer attention to what spells/abilities the other characters have coming up for their Personas. And I love being able to swap equipment without talking to each character individually.

Anyone else playing on a BC 80gig PS3? Its playing just fine with me, but every so often when I try to save, it will say "Save failed" and I have to go thru saving it again. Not a big gripe, since it has always worked on the second try so far, but if I wasn't paying attention, I could easily continue thinking I had saved, when in fact I hadn't. I had this problem a couple times when I was playing P3 FES: The Answer, but never had it during The Journey, nor have I ever failed trying to save any other PS2 game.

[bigl523]

Anyone else playing on a BC 80gig PS3? Its playing just fine with me, but every so often when I try to save, it will say "Save failed" and I have to go thru saving it again. Not a big gripe, since it has always worked on the second try so far, but if I wasn't paying attention, I could easily continue thinking I had saved, when in fact I hadn't. I had this problem a couple times when I was playing P3 FES: The Answer, but never had it during The Journey, nor have I ever failed trying to save any other PS2 game.

This happened to me on my 60gb PS3 with P3 and FES. No worries, just save again til it works.

[donburns99]

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[Brian9824]

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Thx ordered one

[Pck21]

Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=&tag=camelcamelcamel-20) is back in stock! Order now if you wanted one.

Just ordered one! Thank you so much!!!!!! Dude I'm so stoked now! :)

[bigl523]

Muaahaha, I got one as well :D

[GenDV138]

Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=&tag=camelcamelcamel-20) is back in stock! Order now if you wanted one.

Thanks, ordered one with my $5 Chrono Trigger promo. I'll probably sell my Teddie plush since Atlus sent me one for an Atlus Faithful contest and I don't really need two.

[donburns99]

Congrats to all who got one. It now appears to be sold out once again.

[TheMaidenOfSorrow]

Damn, missed it. This is what happens when I sleep. :|

[Pck21]

Wow that went faster than I thought it would have! I'm glad I snagged one for the regular price instead of the completely inflated prices on ebay and Amazon Marketplace. I only ordered one because I actually want it...I'm guessing that some people may have hoarded it? Also, how did Amazon get ahold of more of these? Maybe from people who cancelled their original orders or something? I thought they were supposed to be uber limited or something.

[Brian9824]

I don't want T-Shirt or calendar so if anyone wants to buy em from me let me know. Just wanted plush and soundtrack.

[TheMaidenOfSorrow]

I don't want T-Shirt or calendar so if anyone wants to buy em from me let me know. Just wanted plush and soundtrack.
how much for calendar? >_>

[Moxio]

How much for the shirt?

[Brian9824]

Honestly don't know. Probably about $10 for shirt, $5 for calendar, plus shipping. Or i can check lists.

[RynoZebz]

I'm a newcomer to the Persona series but an hour and half into this one and I'm loving it thus far. Can't wait to get back into it tonight. I actually went out today and picked up a used copy of Persona 3 just in case I wanna play it after this one! Ha!

It's playing fine on my 80gb so far. I also ran into the save issue where it failed. But it worked the next time I tried. No idea.

Any advice for a noob to the series? Things to avoid, etc?

[Calamityuponthee]

I'm a newcomer to the Persona series but an hour and half into this one and I'm loving it thus far. Can't wait to get back into it tonight. I actually went out today and picked up a used copy of Persona 3 just in case I wanna play it after this one! Ha!

It's playing fine on my 80gb so far. I also ran into the save issue where it failed. But it worked the next time I tried. No idea.

Any advice for a noob to the series? Things to avoid, etc?

Buy the guide. Max out social links, and fuse the right personas. Exploit enemy weaknesses, and assume control over your party (In P3, you could only control the MC in battle) especially for boss fights.

Don't waste time just sleep at night. Study, and during the day take a part time job. Money is a lot more scarce in this game then P3. Namely because I don't think money comes in chests anymore.

[Draekon]

Don't waste time just sleep at night. Study, and during the day take a part time job. Money is a lot more scarce in this game then P3. Namely because I don't think money comes in chests anymore.

It's pretty easy to make money when you can clear a floor of a dungeon with next to no effort what so ever as a few of the enemies keep respawning. Although it's pretty time consuming for sure.


Also the guide is missing multiple choice replies and the bonuses they sometime give, which is disappointing. Oh well.

[Pck21]

Ordered my social link expansion pack today via 2 day Prime and it will be here tomorrow. Totally stoked!

[pete5883]

Just got the $30 amazon art book and I am really dissapointed. Its kind flimsy for $30 and indeed was paper back. Its also the exact same art book the Japanese got....they didnt even bother translating the damn thing to English. Essentially all they did was take the Japanese extra stock and dump it on Amazon for $30. Pretty book but for $30 disappointing.

Who is "they?" This is a book released by Atlus Japan for the Japanese market, imported and sold by Amazon.

Anyone else playing on a BC 80gig PS3? Its playing just fine with me, but every so often when I try to save, it will say "Save failed" and I have to go thru saving it again. Not a big gripe, since it has always worked on the second try so far, but if I wasn't paying attention, I could easily continue thinking I had saved, when in fact I hadn't. I had this problem a couple times when I was playing P3 FES: The Answer, but never had it during The Journey, nor have I ever failed trying to save any other PS2 game.
This happened to me in P3FES - SAVE IN MANY SLOTS. Every couple of hours, one or 2 of my saves would disappear. Sometimes after a load, one or 2 of my saves would disappear.

[ChibiJosh]

First time I play it, quit, and go back, my save is already gone. This kinda turns me off to the whole thing.

[fatbeer]

This happened to me in P3FES - SAVE IN MANY SLOTS. Every couple of hours, one or 2 of my saves would disappear. Sometimes after a load, one or 2 of my saves would disappear.

The same thing happen to me as well with fes. Saves would disappear out of thin air then in matter of minutes they would either disappear for good or come back. After that shit occur, I made backup just in case or resort playing it on ps2 instead.

[RynoZebz]

Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure if I wanna use the guide as that would spoil things, I think.

I had my first moment of yuck tonight with Persona 4. I played for about an hour and they tossed me into the first big boss fight. It had been an hour since I saved. I died as I was trying to mess around with the combat and wasn't paying close enough attention to my health gage. An hours worth of story and work lost. Now I have to do it over again tomorrow. Bleh. It's my own fault tho. I should have known better. Does the game give you any other save systems other then that damn calendar?

[zewone]

Does the game give you any other save systems other then that damn calendar?

Flashing butterflies.

[zewone]

First time I play it, quit, and go back, my save is already gone. This kinda turns me off to the whole thing.

Don't blame the game for Sony's shoddy BC.

[ChibiJosh]

Don't blame the game for Sony's shoddy BC.
I didn't say that I blamed the game, although, now I partially blame the game because it exits the save menu every time you save. I wouldn't mind saving 3 or 4 times if I didn't have to click on the calander every time.

Luckily, it didn't actually erase my save, it just didn't recognize it for whatever reason. I tried it again, and it worked fine. Now, I make sure to save twice before I quit.

[Pck21]

I played for about 2 hours last night and the story has completely sucked me in. For me it's completely original and I like how I have to make choices that (I think) affect the outcome of the game. I'm always on my toes and trying to think ahead about which decision would be best. Really great game and I can't wait to finish the story.

[GenDV138]

Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure if I wanna use the guide as that would spoil things, I think.

I had my first moment of yuck tonight with Persona 4. I played for about an hour and they tossed me into the first big boss fight. It had been an hour since I saved. I died as I was trying to mess around with the combat and wasn't paying close enough attention to my health gage. An hours worth of story and work lost. Now I have to do it over again tomorrow. Bleh. It's my own fault tho. I should have known better. Does the game give you any other save systems other then that damn calendar?

Yeah, I got slaughtered by the first boss, 1-2 shotted my guys since I didn't really grind much which was my fault. Still have several days to grind though, so I'll work on leveling up.

I didn't get too far in P3: FES, I think I'll go back to that after I finish up P4. Trying to juggle between P4 and Tales of Vesperia right now. Definitely loving P4 though, being able to control the whole party is great, awesome music, and the dubbing isn't bad.

Got my Social Link pack today from Amazon, I'll probably be selling the Teddie plush on here or eBay since I already got one from Atlus last month.

[ChibiJosh]

A lot of this game feels vastly inferior to P3, mostly the dungeon system. I absolutely hate what they did with the card shuffle. Fortunately, the good outweighs the bad so far.

[Moxio]

Yeah the post-battle shuffles kinda really stink now. I <3'ed the extra experience card. :lol: Once you got to like level 8, you were just raking in the exp. :drool:

[Rodimus]

Only about 5 hours in but I feel like I'm finally getting into the meat of the game. Can't really judge which one I like more, P3 or P4.

Chie's voice is definatly a problem for me. It's just so old and misplaced. Everone else sounds fine. Teddie is okay, still not big on his character design but he's not the cute cuddly character I thought he was gonna be.

[thelonepig]

Received my first game over screen about 4 1/2 hours in against a regular enemy. Critical hit on the main character for 95 points of damage. o_O

[Krymner]

Yeah, I've had a couple of cheap deaths like that too. One was after I had been grinding about 1.5 hours and some villain cast one of those instant death spells. Really kinda pissed me off.

As for the shuffle, I also miss the P3 shuffle because like you said, you could rake in the $$$ or the xp. At least there's the "second chance" drawing that starts in the second dungeon. Some of those bonuses are good.

And that damn fox charges WAY too much to heal.

[Draekon]

And that damn fox charges WAY too much to heal.

You can get it lowered though.

[Nathan_Sama]

Received my first game over screen about 4 1/2 hours in against a regular enemy. Critical hit on the main character for 95 points of damage. o_OThe Attack was SUPER EFFECTIVE!!! :rofl:

[TheMaidenOfSorrow]

So...addicting. My sleeping schedule is totally messed up now due to staying up really late in the morning to play and sleeping in the evening. I look and feel like this :drool::drool:. I still like p3 a lot better, but that can change since im not that far into p4 yet.

[thelonepig]

Game Informer gave the game the lowest score I've seen yet - 8/10 and 7.25/10.

The review was a bit hobnobby though. They had a few good points, but mainly harped on the PS2-era graphics (what'd they expect?!) and grinding.

[Monsta Mack]

Stupid Fallout 3 and my wife is playing Prince of Persia keeping me from playing this game. Ugh.

Persona 3 was my favorite PS2 RPG topping Suikoden V, and some of you guys are saying Persona 4 is better, huh?

Damn gotta get to this.

[squid]

I think I still prefer some of the characters from P3, but I am loving this game after I was able to actually ...do.. stuff. I had like 5 hours clocked before I felt like I was playing.

I also got my pack today, too. Teddie looks great, I'm mostly happy.. but I gotta wonder why all these promo shirts are always XL? They're so huge I can never really wear them.

[donburns99]

I also got my pack today, too. Teddie looks great, I'm mostly happy.. but I gotta wonder why all these promo shirts are always XL? They're so huge I can never really wear them.Would be nice if they offered different sizes, but it makes sense.

A XL person can't fit into a S or M. But a S or M person can wear a XL, even if they are swimming in it.

Think of it as a crummy and unrealistic One Size Fits All type of deal. xD

[JEKKI]

whoo! P4 in the house today!!

but... I'm hella scared to pop it in!!

coz once I do that... it's over... it's so over...

[zewone]

Word, son.

[Rodimus]

It's too late for me. I said goodbye to my social life already. My new friends are Chie and the group.

[pete5883]

God I wasted a lot of time looking for an Angel Statue. Like 13 hours in, only at mid-May.

[JEKKI]

dang I really wish they could make a new Battletoads game,

but like so instead I tried to name my main character Battletoad...

but they wouldnt let me coz it has too many letters!!! >_<

so I had to settle for Batltoad

btw I heard that in Britain they dont pronounce their T's,

so they say like "Bha-uhl-oad"

[sundaysuit]

do you guys have an extra artbook?
i got fucked out of mine.

[Pck21]

do you guys have an extra artbook?
i got fucked out of mine.

Your pre-order book? Where did you order from? If it was from GS, just go to another store (call ahead first of course) and ask if they have any extras.

[Chacrana]

dang I really wish they could make a new Battletoads game,

but like so instead I tried to name my main character Battletoad...

but they wouldnt let me coz it has too many letters!!! >_<

so I had to settle for Batltoad

btw I heard that in Britain they dont pronounce their T's,

so they say like "Bha-uhl-oad"

Jekki, what the fuck?

:rofl:

[thelonepig]

Thus far, I prefer P3. The blue/black was a much easier color scheme to visually handle than the orange/yellow/brown. I also miss my camera - only panning left and right makes it much more difficult to sneak up on Shadows. Granted the shadows seem to be alerted to my presence even if I approach from the back.

It's too late for me. I said goodbye to my social life already. My new friends are Chie and the group.

I'm in the same boat and somehow that comforts me... at least the characters are more interesting than the majority of people I run into on a daily basis.

[willardhaven]

P3 had a much better camera than P4. The story in 4 seems more interesting though.

[cletus]

Is it just me or has it been much harder to get the player advantage in battles? The enemies overall seem to be harder then P3. I'm still stuck on Yukiko's shadow. I may have to resign myself to grinding. ugh.

I'm loving all the improvements they've made. For example it is much easier to equip your allies now. The story is pretty interesting too. You just have to sit through the 3 hour prologue first.

[thelonepig]

Is it just me or has it been much harder to get the player advantage in battles? The enemies overall seem to be harder then P3. I'm still stuck on Yukiko's shadow. I may have to resign myself to grinding. ugh.

I'm loving all the improvements they've made. For example it is much easier to equip your allies now. The story is pretty interesting too. You just have to sit through the 3 hour prologue first.

I was at level 15 when I finished that part. The "prince" that she summons is weak to ice, so every time Chie came up, I would use mabufu, then guard (to avoid fire attacks). Getting Archangel and leveling him up to 12 is a good idea as well so that you'll have Media.

I like the fact that getting knocked down doesn't take away your turn, but am a bit annoyed that they've allowed the extra turn if anyone's weakness is exploited (in P3 it had to be everyone).

[sundaysuit]

Your pre-order book? Where did you order from? If it was from GS, just go to another store (call ahead first of course) and ask if they have any extras.
It was from GS.
I live 16 miles away from LA, and I called all stores in my area, and a few in LA.
None of them had any.

[Sir_Fragalot]

Just nabbed Persona 4 today, never played 3 but played and loved Nocturne and 2 of my best friends went berserk over 3 so, lol. I am about 1 hr and 40 minutes in. The prologue is killing me, but I can already feel the crack starting to come, lol, and I am really enjoying the story.

[Krymner]

It is a lot tougher to get the player advantage when trying to sneak up on the shadows. It seems like its more random than any sneaking skill or anything, cause I've had the little buggers facing me and got the drop on them anyway. On that same note tho, I've also been on the receiving end of the drop, cause there's been several times I've hacked at them with my sword, but the shadows were given the advantage anyway.

I do agree tho, that storywise it is better than P3. Also, I think I like most of the characters too. Cause in P3, I think the only characters I really liked were Junpei, Mitsuru and Yukari.

[Jest]

I thought Mitsuru was a bitch.

I also like these characters. The soccer guy looks like hes too old to be in highschool though. I'm looooving it so far.

[cletus]

I finally beat Yukiko's shadow. I leveled up enough to get mabufu and used status effects plus guard more often. It seems like status effects are actually useful in this game.

Right now I'm being overwhelmed with all the stuff to do during the day. I haven't even tried getting a part time job yet. Which stats and s.links should I focus on?

[hero101]

I'm going to start the game tomorrow. I'm just relaxing and listen to the soundtrack today.

[ChibiJosh]

I finally beat Yukiko's shadow. I leveled up enough to get mabufu and used status effects plus guard more often. It seems like status effects are actually useful in this game.

Right now I'm being overwhelmed with all the stuff to do during the day. I haven't even tried getting a part time job yet. Which stats and s.links should I focus on?

You definitely want to get knowledge up because passing the exams are actually useful now since it gives you points in all of your school based s.links.

[Krymner]

Yeah, Knowledge, then probably Courage and Expression, since several dialog choices early on have prerequisites for those.

Try to at least get a level 3 Knowledge before the first midterm exams. The best way I know is to go to the library to study on rainy days.

[bigl523]

Check out this P4 theme that someone made for the PS3. Found it on the atlus forums.

http://www.psu.com/media/themes/136772_2575-P4TPreview.jpg

dl here: http://darkaoz.deviantart.com/art/DarKaoZ-Persona-4-PS3-Theme-105785892

if you don't like the icons and just want the bg's use the ps3 theme extractor which can be found at:
http://ps3.blackvoltage.org/

[Rodimus]

I also hear Knowledge is the first thing you should work on. The least important is Diligence. Once you get it to level 3 you can pretty much leave it alone.

[Draekon]

Wow, beat the third dungeon the first day it was open while it was raining. Used the Hermit S. Link to heal twice through it but I didn't really think I'd actually beat the boss.

Only cost me 10k the first time I healed my SP and then 15k the second time. Not bad once you get your S. Link for Hermit up there.

[Monsta Mack]

Wow @ Voice Actors The voice for Yosuke is the same as Pharos / Ryouji Mochizuki? That's pretty fuckedd up. Any other re-used voice actors I should notice? lol

[willardhaven]

Um, the main character is one of the black rangers from Power Rangers.

[cletus]

So on rainy days should I take the beef bowl challenge or go to the library? Right now it's kinda hard to come up with 3000 yen every time it rains. Maybe I can start working at night more. Dammit but that's when I study...

[GenDV138]

Check out this P4 theme that someone made for the PS3. Found it on the atlus forums.

Pretty cool theme, thanks for the link! Looks pretty good on my PS3 and the icons aren't bad.

[Draekon]

To anyone leveling the Hermit S. Link and plans to get it to rank 10. You should purchase the Huge Fish from the shopping channel in June when they offer it (the other option isn't really worth it). Your next chance is apparently months away and it's a rare fish to fish up (but rain increases chances of getting it).

[donburns99]

Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=&tag=camelcamelcamel-20) is back in stock once again! Order now if you wanted one.

[bigl523]

Ordered another one for keeps.

[zewone]

Thanks.

[bigl523]

that was quick, OOS

[bigl523]

Burns get out of there, I'm trying to get rid of mine, don't need more competition.

[donburns99]

that was quick, OOS
Yep, I don't think their new ones sent from Atlus, just re-stocked from canceled orders.

Burns get out of there, I'm trying to get rid of mine, don't need more competition.Then why'd you just order another for 'keeps'? ;)

[bigl523]

Cuz I already had one i was trying to flip :p Trying to cover the costs so that I end up with a freebie.

[blackjaw]

I'm so sad that I haven't had the time to pick this up yet. How long does EB hold a preorder for?

[donburns99]

I'm so sad that I haven't had the time to pick this up yet. How long does EB hold a preorder for?
I believe they hold your item for 48-hours.

After that, anyone can walk in and buy your copy.

[Rodimus]

What S-Links are you guys working on first?

Tip: You should always bring the corresponding Persona with you while hanging out with your S-Links. ex. if you decide to go to your sports club, equip a "Strength" class Persona. They'll level in about half the time. This is something I would often forget to do in P3 and missed maxing out about 4 of my S-Links bacuase of it.

[Draekon]

What S-Links are you guys working on first?

Tip: You should always bring the corresponding Persona with you while hanging out with your S-Links. ex. if you decide to go to your sports club, equip a "Strength" class Persona. They'll level in about half the time. This is something I would often forget to do in P3 and missed maxing out about 4 of my S-Links bacuase of it.

I'm level 32 on July 9th and about to go grind for materials and such in the other world as it's raining and I thought I'd try the second optional boss.

Social Links:
9 - Hermit (Have the rank 10 quest complete but need expression up one more to 5)
8 - Chariot
8 - Priestess
7 - Magician
3 - Heirophant
3 - Justice
3 - Sun
2 - Temperance
2 - Strength
1 - Empress

Fool & Star, two of the auto's I can't really control so I don't see a point in posting their level.


Characteristics:
4 Knowledge
4 Expression
3 Understanding
3 Courage
3 Diligence


Since this is my first playthrough I'm taking it kindof laid back. Mostly want to max my characteristics for the next playthrough since they carry over.

[pete5883]

What kind of stuff do you get from the monsters that show up when it's raining?

[Draekon]

What kind of stuff do you get from the monsters that show up when it's raining?

Special monsters show up (usually rain is somewhere in their name) in normal fights. In the third dungeon I fought one of the few that are in there and got one of their uncommon drops (no, they don't have multiple... it just doesn't drop any often). It turned out to be:

Zero Kosode (Female Armor)
- 108 Defense
- 3 Evade
- Effect: Evade Spells (High)

Normal armor from the area's materials were something like 120 defense and 10 evade or so with no special effect.

Usually the stuff that you get from rain-only enemies have about the same stats as other stuff in the dungeon but their effects are usually pretty awesome. This isn't always the case though 'cause I also got a weapon that had like 50 hit despite having a heck of a lot more attack than what I could currently get.

[ChibiJosh]

What S-Links are you guys working on first?

Tip: You should always bring the corresponding Persona with you while hanging out with your S-Links. ex. if you decide to go to your sports club, equip a "Strength" class Persona. They'll level in about half the time. This is something I would often forget to do in P3 and missed maxing out about 4 of my S-Links bacuase of it.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually have to equip a corresponding persona type. You just have to have one with you.

[Draekon]

I'm pretty sure you don't actually have to equip a corresponding persona type. You just have to have one with you.

You'd be correct.



And wow... July is an interesting month.

[ChibiJosh]

I'm not even to June yet. This game just isn't grabbing me as much as P3.

[JEKKI]

awww man over 5 hours into this...

I jus began the first dungeon, and jus got the social link with the sports team.

addiction starts now @_@

[zewone]

I've only beat the second dungeon (I'm on 6/18) and I think I may end up liking this one more than P3 and I absolutely loved P3.

[GenDV138]

I'm about 10 hours in and just finished the first dungeon at level 15, really loving the game so far and it's starting to get addicting! Didn't get to the first boss in P3, but I plan to pick that back up after I finish P4.

Also got my Social Link pack from Amazon, shirt is pretty nice. I usually wear XL but this shirt seems more like XXL to me, quite a bit longer than my XL shirts, hopefully it'll shrink down a bit in the wash.

[pete5883]

Doesn't seem to be as difficult as I originally thought. I whooped the 2nd boss pretty bad. I really like how there's a lot of reasons to raise your Knowledge, Courage, etc. this time.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

This is my GOTY.
Its sooo good.

Played over 9 hours this weekend.

[erehwon]

I wanted to preorder this, but I'm a little short on money right now.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

So if I have a persona that is of that type, it raises the S-Link even faster?

Do I have to get 9th lvl S-Link with Yukiko to get her to be my GF?

[Pck21]

I'm about 4 and half hours into it and I'm in love with this game and the series. I'm a little confused on the social links and persona fusions so I might pick up the strategy guide to make everything go smoother. The last thing I want to do is fuck up a fusion and then ruin the game experience. For those who have the strat guide, is it worth it?

[Draekon]

4th dungeon is awesome.


So if I have a persona that is of that type, it raises the S-Link even faster?

Do I have to get 9th lvl S-Link with Yukiko to get her to be my GF?

Yes it will help increase the characters happiness towards you for the S. Link and yes.

I'm about 4 and half hours into it and I'm in love with this game and the series. I'm a little confused on the social links and persona fusions so I might pick up the strategy guide to make everything go smoother. The last thing I want to do is fuck up a fusion and then ruin the game experience. For those who have the strat guide, is it worth it?

The only thing it's missing as far as I can tell is all the dialogue choices you get in normal conversations. They won't list the characteristic increases anywhere for them. (There are a couple minor bits of info missing for a couple things but they're not that big of a deal).

However it will still list answers to classroom questions and such. Although with some things you may need to check multiple pages as they don't re-put info in other areas of the guide to be a little more helpful.

[Rodimus]

^ The guide is nice, I recommend it. I hardly ever buy guides but I always get them for SMT games. I could see this one going up in price in a few years so in those terms it's not a bad investment.

Don't be scared of fusion. Since you're able to see the results it's hard to fuck anything up, just save often. Persona's come and go throughout the game, so don't get too attached to them. It's good to be consistently making new personas that are close to the main characters level. Plus it's always good to have a variety for experimenting with new recipes. The guide also gives tips on what persona's would be good for boss fights.

[Krymner]

I love to play around with the fusions to get the bonus powers that I want, since it is random. When you pick the two (or three, or more) personas that you want to fuse, take a look at the bonus powers that the new persona is getting, then cancel the fusion, unselect the personas, then select them again and you'll get different bonus powers selected for the new created persona. I spent almost ten minutes once trying to pass on Mazio and Elec Bonus from Oberon to a persona I was fusioning, until finally I got the combination that I wanted.

[JEKKI]

oh shyt! it's raining today!

jus like how it rains in persona 4!!!

addict!!!

[Pck21]

The only thing it's missing as far as I can tell is all the dialogue choices you get in normal conversations. They won't list the characteristic increases anywhere for them. (There are a couple minor bits of info missing for a couple things but they're not that big of a deal).

However it will still list answers to classroom questions and such. Although with some things you may need to check multiple pages as they don't re-put info in other areas of the guide to be a little more helpful.

Hmm well then it might be beneficial for me to pick it up. I have actually answered all of the classroom questions correctly so I guess I am, in the words of Homer Simpson, "the smart!" lol!

I love to play around with the fusions to get the bonus powers that I want, since it is random. When you pick the two (or three, or more) personas that you want to fuse, take a look at the bonus powers that the new persona is getting, then cancel the fusion, unselect the personas, then select them again and you'll get different bonus powers selected for the new created persona. I spent almost ten minutes once trying to pass on Mazio and Elec Bonus from Oberon to a persona I was fusioning, until finally I got the combination that I wanted.

I guess I will have to play around with it for a bit. I wanted to start fusing some together but I didn't know if I was going to mess something up so I just put down the controller as slow as I could and walked away.

oh shyt! it's raining today!

jus like how it rains in persona 4!!!

addict!!!

o_O

Uh oh!!! Is anyone missing? Did anything show up at midnight for you guys? Crap, where's my teddy plushy? That little son of a... :)

Actually I haven't received my social link expansion pack yet. I ordered it when they were available for the second time around and it shipped out on the 11th and had a delivery date of the 12th. So far, my order tracking is still showing that billing info was received but nothing has actually shipped. I was also charged for it too...

[ninja dog]

so you have until 4/29 to rescue yukiko? I just got up to the boss on 4/19, so I have 10 days to grind? I hope so. I'm only at level 10 and the boss is pretty killer. :)

[FloodsAreUponUS]

so you have until 4/29 to rescue yukiko? I just got up to the boss on 4/19, so I have 10 days to grind? I hope so. I'm only at level 10 and the boss is pretty killer. :)

That boss can be finished off around lvl 15, if I recall.

Just grind it all out in one day, and get it done.

[meerkatgamer]

Great game so far I really liked persona 3, but this one will most likely be my favorite.

I got pretty much everything I'd want for persona 4 stuff now the game guide, the pre-order artbook, the official design works artbook, and now the social link yay I'm so excited sadly the social link pack will come on the one the 25 or 29th ah well as long as it comes all nice and safe. :bouncy:

[ninja dog]

That boss can be finished off around lvl 15, if I recall.

Just grind it all out in one day, and get it done.

good. I'd like to get ahead so I don't have to worry about time constrained shit.

*goes back to procrastinating on paper that's due tomorrow*

[JEKKI]

so you have until 4/29 to rescue yukiko? I just got up to the boss on 4/19, so I have 10 days to grind? I hope so. I'm only at level 10 and the boss is pretty killer. :)from a social link perspective, u should jus spend all your time doing S Links.

I read online that the best days to hit the dungeon are the first day, 4/27, and 4/29.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I always try and get the dungeon done in at least time as possible.
This way I have more time to spend socializing, and not worrying about losing and shit.

[Jest]

LOL Kanji

LOL "bear" naked

[Draekon]

Warning: Never try to one-day a brand new dungeon unless you want to spend 30+ minutes fighting a boss.

Took me that long on the third dungeon and even longer on the fourth where I encountered some serious bullshit in the final few turns of the boss barely managing to win.

[pete5883]

Doing a whole dungeon in one day seems like such a waste of SP items. Unless you can afford the fox, I guess.

[Draekon]

Doing a whole dungeon in one day seems like such a waste of SP items. Unless you can afford the fox, I guess.

I have it Rank 9 Hermit and it'll be Rank 10 in the next (in game) day or two when I start playing the game again. It only costs me like 15k to fully restore my SP, which is less than I make on yen alone in a dungeon run between heals (doesn't count materials).

[MSI Magus]

So does this game have the same time constraits as Persona 3? I know that there is a week and you can only do certain actions at certain times, but does the game end when it gets to a certain month/day still?

[donburns99]

Great game so far I really liked persona 3, but this one will most likely be my favorite.

I got pretty much everything I'd want for persona 4 stuff now the game guide, the pre-order artbook, the official design works artbook, and now the social link yay I'm so excited sadly the social link pack will come on the one the 25 or 29th ah well as long as it comes all nice and safe. :bouncy:
I wasn't too impressed with Amazon's packing.

Both the Visual Data that came with the game and the Official Design works were sent in BOXES and yet the pages were warped.

Really, it's nothing noticeable when I look at either book head on, but if I look at the bottom and tops, the pages curve up and down from the spine to the end; kind of like a wave or a snake.

Also on the Official Design Works, the strip they run across the front cover to the back cover was halfway was slid half off the bottom of the book, so it was all crinkled.

Kind of disappointing, especially since the DoubleJump guide was perfect and only shipped in the most flimsy packaging, yet Amazon ships in boxes and both books were warped. :bomb:

[willardhaven]

I wasn't too impressed with Amazon's packing.

Really, it's nothing noticeable when I look at either book head on, but if I look at the bottom and tops, the pages curve up and down from the spine to the end; kind of like a wave or a snake.



Wow my Visual Data book is exactly as you describe it...

[Rodimus]

They must've packaged mine diffrently cause it came in perfect condition.

[bigl523]

Christ, finally got my copy w/artbook from amazon. Have to say they did a great job packaging it (even with super saver shipping). Too bad I don't have time to play it right now :(

[Pck21]

It was creepy this morning. I woke up and heard the rain outside my window. I got ready for work and went out to my car and it was totally foggy outside. We don't normally get fog in AZ. What makes it even more bizarre is that I kept thinking about Persona 4 the entire time lol. o_O

[Sockey]

How does P4 run on the 80 gb PS3? I started P3 on my PS2 but finished the game on the MGS4 80 GB PS3 without incident (I used the memory card transfer device). Anyway, I just wanted to see whether I should play Persona 4 on my PS3 or PS2. (I just got my copy from Amazon today) Anybody have any info?

[JEKKI]

http://i38.tinypic.com/judzya.png

mystery time!!

[Mr. Beef]

Damn, I think I wanna grab that strat guide for this game. As much as I like walking into a dungeon's boss room completely unprepared, I'd rather not, seeing as I have a bad habit of forgetting to save...a lot.

[Nephlabobo]

EB tried to screw me after telling me I was *guaranteed* to get an artbook, saying it was first come first serve.

Canceled my preorder, walked across the street and got it for $5 less than EB's price - *with* the artbook last Friday at my local indie game shop.

Lesson learned. Don't preorder from EB.

Finished Finals today - can play until Xmas! :D :bouncy:

[cletus]

If you get a teammate's persona up to level 10 it will upgrade to the next form. It's not automatic like in P3.

[pete5883]

Damn, I think I wanna grab that strat guide for this game. As much as I like walking into a dungeon's boss room completely unprepared, I'd rather not, seeing as I have a bad habit of forgetting to save...a lot.
How do you forget when there's always a warning that there's a boss ahead?

[zewone]

I lost two hours because I got beat by a random enemy. Why doesn't this game have some sort of auto-save function?! :bomb:

[Draekon]

I lost two hours because I got beat by a random enemy. Why doesn't this game have some sort of auto-save function?! :bomb:

Yeah, you've got to be careful. So many times I would get hit within 30 health of me dieing only to barely survive. Especially those bullshit enemy advantages when I swear I hit him before he turned around and smacked me.

Luckily though I didn't have any major time loss deaths outside of the sub-boss in the first dungeon.

[Mr. Beef]

How do you forget when there's always a warning that there's a boss ahead?
It happened a lot in P3, and it happened once already in the castle dungeon (I missed the butterfly completely).

[pete5883]

But before you walk through the door, they ask if you want to walk through. You say "no."

[Mr. Beef]

*shrug*

Chalk it up to laziness, I suppose. Either way, I keep an eye open now.

[Sockey]

How does P4 run on the 80 gb PS3? I started P3 on my PS2 but finished the game on the MGS4 80 GB PS3 without incident (I used the memory card transfer device). Anyway, I just wanted to see whether I should play Persona 4 on my PS3 or PS2. (I just got my copy from Amazon today) Anybody have any info?

Well I decided to start playing on my 80gb PS3 and everything seemed fine at first. After a while, however, I started to notice that the yellow/black banners in the lower left were always blank. Checking screenshots online reveals that these banners should have text. I'm gonna go transfer my P4 save and try on my PS2. Anybody else experienced this?

Edit: Yep, on the PS2 it does indeed have this text. It's a shame the PS3 version doesn't because the games looks a bit sharper than on the PS2. Oh well. I wonder if it is something that could be patched (I know Sony has occasionally released PS2 backwards compatibility updates).

[JEKKI]

maaaan what's up with Yosuke's Ugg boots?!?!?!

man I hope that guy gets HAMA'd or sum shyt for that... seriously.

[Dead of Knight]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. I think my copy of the game has it out for me.

I can't get past the first dungeon. I've tried like 7-8 times tonight and without fail, at some point, my main character craps out on me before I get to the mid-boss. It doesn't matter if I heal the previous round, or if I come into a battle full health, the game just doesn't want me to get anywhere. The last try tonight was fighting a random encounter where the enemy (one of those dice things that made lots of appearances in 3) used an insta-death move on the whole party (Last Resort) and everyone died. This is in the first dungeon of the game. What the bloody fucking hell. I NEVER had such bullshit happen to me in Persona 3. I think I've died more times outside of a boss battle just in this first dungeon than I did in Persona 3 for the whole game. Seriously, wtf? It's like my copy is cursed.

[Paco]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. I think my copy of the game has it out for me.

I can't get past the first dungeon. I've tried like 7-8 times tonight and without fail, at some point, my main character craps out on me before I get to the mid-boss. It doesn't matter if I heal the previous round, or if I come into a battle full health, the game just doesn't want me to get anywhere. The last try tonight was fighting a random encounter where the enemy (one of those dice things that made lots of appearances in 3) used an insta-death move on the whole party (Last Resort) and everyone died. This is in the first dungeon of the game. What the bloody fucking hell. I NEVER had such bullshit happen to me in Persona 3. I think I've died more times outside of a boss battle just in this first dungeon than I did in Persona 3 for the whole game. Seriously, wtf? It's like my copy is cursed.

Sounds like you're playing a copy of Beyond the Beyond.

[donburns99]

Sounds like you're playing a copy of Beyond the Beyond.You know, it took me years to forget the torment that game put me though.. now I won't be able to sleep sound tonight. Thanks a lot. :wall:

[mowmow]

this game will quickly surpass my previous death total that i had in persona 3. and yet i cant seem to stop playing it.....

[Dead of Knight]

this game will quickly surpass my previous death total that i had in persona 3. and yet i cant seem to stop playing it.....

I'm gonna play again tomorrow. If I still can't get past this shit after like 5 tries, it's going on a one-way trip to Gamestop. I would sell it to a CAG but I don't want to sell a cursed copy to a CAG.

[willardhaven]

You guys suck at games.

[Calamityuponthee]

I'm playing on the hardest difficulty, and the only troubles I've had are end bosses of dungeons. I guard on the MC when I think he's going to die, otherwise I just exploit weaknesses.

It's as hard, or a tad harder then P3. Only died once by regular shadows, and that was by hama =/

[Brian9824]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. I think my copy of the game has it out for me.

I can't get past the first dungeon. I've tried like 7-8 times tonight and without fail, at some point, my main character craps out on me before I get to the mid-boss. It doesn't matter if I heal the previous round, or if I come into a battle full health, the game just doesn't want me to get anywhere. The last try tonight was fighting a random encounter where the enemy (one of those dice things that made lots of appearances in 3) used an insta-death move on the whole party (Last Resort) and everyone died. This is in the first dungeon of the game. What the bloody fucking hell. I NEVER had such bullshit happen to me in Persona 3. I think I've died more times outside of a boss battle just in this first dungeon than I did in Persona 3 for the whole game. Seriously, wtf? It's like my copy is cursed.

Last resort is far from an insta-death move. Think it did about 15-20% of my max health when they used it on me. If its killing you that badly sounds like you are massively underleveled or using crappy persona. Try to take advantage of elemental weaknesses for those tougher enemies. Believe the dice is wind?

I just beat the boss of first dungeon last night at around lvl 15. Used Oberon with phys and fire resists for main guy and had red shield for Chie. Didn't come close to dying once.

I absolutely LOVE the game. The dialog is perfect, if anything its even better then 3. I had to put the controller down until I stopped laughing with the scene with Yukiko's glasses and the failed ones Teddy made.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. I think my copy of the game has it out for me.

I can't get past the first dungeon. I've tried like 7-8 times tonight and without fail, at some point, my main character craps out on me before I get to the mid-boss. It doesn't matter if I heal the previous round, or if I come into a battle full health, the game just doesn't want me to get anywhere. The last try tonight was fighting a random encounter where the enemy (one of those dice things that made lots of appearances in 3) used an insta-death move on the whole party (Last Resort) and everyone died. This is in the first dungeon of the game. What the bloody fucking hell. I NEVER had such bullshit happen to me in Persona 3. I think I've died more times outside of a boss battle just in this first dungeon than I did in Persona 3 for the whole game. Seriously, wtf? It's like my copy is cursed.

Last Resort has never killed me, ever.
You must be doing something wrong.

Use wind attacks, make stronger personas, better armor(this is a must). Go back and get the wrench that gives Yosuke 40 extra SP from the part where you fought his first persona.

I am not sure what you are doing wrong because this is the easiest SMT game ever.

[pete5883]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. I think my copy of the game has it out for me.

I can't get past the first dungeon. I've tried like 7-8 times tonight and without fail, at some point, my main character craps out on me before I get to the mid-boss. It doesn't matter if I heal the previous round, or if I come into a battle full health, the game just doesn't want me to get anywhere. The last try tonight was fighting a random encounter where the enemy (one of those dice things that made lots of appearances in 3) used an insta-death move on the whole party (Last Resort) and everyone died. This is in the first dungeon of the game. What the bloody fucking hell. I NEVER had such bullshit happen to me in Persona 3. I think I've died more times outside of a boss battle just in this first dungeon than I did in Persona 3 for the whole game. Seriously, wtf? It's like my copy is cursed.
If I'm not mistaken, the dice are enemies of the "red and flashing" variety. So that's a good warning to stay away. Why don't you use Goho-M to take a break every couple floors? They're not that expensive.

I also died a few times in the first dungeon though.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

A word of warning when the dice come up, just run the fuck away.

What level are the personas that you are using, and what level are you?

I was around lvl 15 or so when I finished that dungeon.

[Krymner]

I died a few times in the first dungeon too, so no biggie.

But if its too difficult, maybe you need to play it on Easy cause that's for girls to use anyway.

I kid! I kid!

But I will say that Persona 4 is a bit more difficult than P3. I kinda like it that way too.

[Draekon]

I absolutely LOVE the game. The dialog is perfect, if anything its even better then 3. I had to put the controller down until I stopped laughing with the scene with Yukiko's glasses and the failed ones Teddy made.

Wait until you see the first and second school trips then. :P

[Brian9824]

I'm not sure if anything will top Operation Babe Hunt from Persona 3 though...

I gotta say I LOVE the work they put into the dialog choices for the Persona series. Even the responses are things that I would normally say in that situation. The dialog feel's really natural for the most part.

Plus i am liking the charachters alot more. They seem to have more personality such as Chie who thinks with her stomach.

Some advice for anyone new to the Persona series.


Upgrading gear is crucial. Sell your materials to shop to make new weapons/armor and keep up to date.
Persona for main charachter is vital. Keep fusing and mixing skills to create strong persona's.
Know your enemies weaknesses and attacks. If you fight enemies with powerful fire skills do NOT use a persona thats weak to fire.

[Dead of Knight]

Thanks for all the advice. I fought the dice on like the 5th floor of the dungeon, and I believe I was level 10 or so. So perhaps I was underleveled. And yes, it killed everyone in one hit even though everyone was close to full health. I was just trying to get some levels to try and attempt the midboss and this shit happened. And I DON'T suck at Persona, I played through 3 and FES with little problems. I think it's part trying to get used to the new mechanics of the game and part bad luck. Oh well, gonna try again in a couple hours...

[JEKKI]

aaaarrrgh!!

it's snowing!

like freakin beast wars!!

snowing in mother freakin southern cali! wtf?!?!

dear work,

PLZ let me go home early!!! I wanna play Persona!!!

sincerely,

JEKKISONA 4

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Jekki wears ugg boots.

[JEKKI]

shutup!

it's still snowing!! harder! and cars are getting covered in it!!!

but I'm still here!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

cmon!!! I wanna go home!!! HOOOOOOME!!

I hear the voice in my head, the Persona, it's telling me I need to fulfill my destiny and go home!!

[donburns99]

:-s

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Thou are I, and I art Thou.

You shall have your blessing when you choose to create a persona of the ugg type.

[JEKKI]

perSONA!!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j287/timetorockout82/ug2.jpg

[squid]

Last night my big ol' fat ps2 threw a tantrum and now won't play any dual layer games. ... ...... I didn't even get to save Yukiko!

[zewone]

I don't think P4 is a dual-layer game.

It's only about 4GBs.

[squid]

Hm.. yeah, You're right. Plus, I tested a few others after I posted. It's just inconsistent to high hell.
I guess I'll have to snag a friends ps2 sometime this weekend.

[Mr. Beef]

I feel you, Jekki. I gotta hurry up and go home so I can get all up in dat bath house. Wait....

[cletus]

Chie has the Godhand. WTF

[JEKKI]

dood hella whaaaaaack!!!

I beat the first dungeon, but then I wanted to go back coz there's an optional boss that u can get a good weapon from...

si I'm going thru the dungeon and then... Arcana Chance, Death Card, ZERO MP!!!

shyt!! I kinda needed that for the boss!!!

:cry: oh well... it happens.

also... I watched the game's 2nd intro... the bikini/model character doesnt have much of a presence in it O_o

whoever she is, I assume she will take over Teddi's spot as the battle observer

[bigl523]

Finally got a chance to play this game and got about 2 hours in. I'm surprised to say Teddy isn't as annoying as I thought he would be. In fact, I really like him so far.

[Krymner]

Teddy's great in the first part of the game, but to me he gets kinda annoying after he becomes a human. He should have stayed as a bear.

[pete5883]

Teddy's battle advisor quotes are annoying as hell. "uhhhhhhuhuhuhhhh HE GOT BACK UP!"

[Draekon]

Teddy's battle advisor quotes are annoying as hell. "uhhhhhhuhuhuhhhh HE GOT BACK UP!"

Yeah, that's the only bad thing about Teddie really. All announcer quotes get old very quickly in any game and I wish there was an option to only disable the voices on those.

[bigl523]

Yeah, that's the only bad thing about Teddie really. All announcer quotes get old very quickly in any game and I wish there was an option to only disable the voices on those.

Fuuka anyone?

[Mr. Beef]

Just beat the optional boss in the castle dungeon. Wasn't hard, but it was annoying as fuck, since his defense is so high. I'm gonna try and clear out Kenji's dungeon when I get back from work today.

[JEKKI]

any tips on that boss Beef man?!?!?!

I'll prolly take him on tonite, right before I head into the next dungeon

[Rodimus]

I beat him too. But he got me the first few times cause I was under leveled. I went back when I was level 21 and it wasn't too hard. It helps if you make a Persona with Physical Resist. The Slime persona gets it at level 6 or 7. Then I fused it and made an Oberon. The boss has no weakness but Zio & Bufu attacks do some nice damage. Have Yukiko use Media. And if you have a the buff the lowers physical attacks that help too.

[Mr. Beef]

I took him out around lvl 25, and did most of the stuff Rodimus mentioned. I used a few party defense items to keep everyone alive, but mostly it was a battle of who could survive the longest. It helped that Yukiko had Arigao, since that did a nice chunk of damage. Just make sure that she mainly heals, and keep a watch out for his Rampage.

EDIT: Oh, and make sure to examine the throne once you kill him for a sweet weapon for Yukiko.

[JEKKI]

25 is too much... all my doods are 17 rite now...

I still subscribe to the dungeon as little as possible strategy,

I fight for my friends!!

[Draekon]

Progress report! No real spoilers, just social link and characteristics levels.


Date - 10/1


Social Links:
10 - Hermit
10 - Chariot
10 - Priestess
10 - Magician
10 - Lovers
9 - Heirophant
8 - Justice
6 - Strength
5 - Temperance
3 - Sun
1 - Devil
1 - Empress

Characteristics:
5 Knowledge
5 Expression
5 Courage
4 Understanding
4 Diligence

[Dead of Knight]

perSONA!!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j287/timetorockout82/ug2.jpg

Holy shit!! Flashback time...

And y'all are lame. I beat the bonus boss at like level 16. Took me a couple tries, but it's very doable.

[pete5883]

Draekon: Where do I find Kanji for S-link purposes?

[Draekon]

Draekon: Where do I find Kanji for S-link purposes?

I haven't actually started it yet, but I think I've seen him in the Practice Building on the first floor where you can start his social link. I assume that's where he'll be on school days too and off days I assume he'd be around Tatsumi Textiles in the North Shopping District. Of course he won't be available every day and when a dungeon is open but not cleared yet, you can miss a lot of possible social link interactions during the time you waste to complete it.

[thelonepig]

I haven't actually started it yet, but I think I've seen him in the Practice Building on the first floor where you can start his social link. I assume that's where he'll be on school days too and off days I assume he'd be around Tatsumi Textiles in the North Shopping District. Of course he won't be available every day and when a dungeon is open but not cleared yet, you can miss a lot of possible social link interactions during the time you waste to complete it.

Talk to one of the girls in your classroom and she'll mention that he's running around with a gang. Go over to the practice building and tell him that you have something to tell him.

[willardhaven]

like freakin beast wars!!



wat

[JEKKI]

awwwwww yeay~!! Chie and Yosuke gettin it on!!


http://i44.tinypic.com/2a5kk9g.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2v3g70g.jpg

uhhh uhh yeay hit that shyt from the back!!

lol

[zewone]

:shock: :shock: :shock:

@ 09/08

[Krymner]

awwwwww yeay~!! Chie and Yosuke gettin it on!!


http://i44.tinypic.com/2a5kk9g.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2v3g70g.jpg

uhhh uhh yeay hit that shyt from the back!!

lol



HHAHAHAHAAA I lol'd at that when I saw it too!

[Rodimus]

Yep, they stand out alright.

This series is slowly becoming my favorite RPG series ever. I played for like 8 hours yesterday. It's been ages since I've done an RPG power play like that.

[JEKKI]

man that fox is an asshole!!!

I asked him to heal me and he's like "that'll be 26,000+ yen" and I'm wtf?!?!?!

I wish I could be healed coz I used half my SP beating that bonus boss!!! whoo!!

it was easy btw! jus keep using Tarunda so he cant kill you in 1 hit, and let your healers do healing while Chie and Batltoad attack with magic

[zewone]

He takes 50% of you money for a healing for quite a while.

Even when I got him to 25%, it's still ridiculous. I'll just come back on another day.

[happy]

Is it just me or is there something wonderful about getting into a battle in an RPG and dying making you lose a half hour of work. Doing it over sucks, but the fear of what's around the next corner is one of the reasons SMT games are leaps and bounds ahead of any recent FF for me.

[Draekon]

School Cultural Festival is all kinds of wrong on so many levels...

[Rodimus]

I've never needed to use the Fox. I've been lucky with the Arcana cards and get my HP & SP restored quite frequently.

[Draekon]

I've never needed to use the Fox. I've been lucky with the Arcana cards and get my HP & SP restored quite frequently.

I have bad luck with cards for the most part. However on the rare chance I get Judgement and Death, I've gotten them upright every time except for once when I hit a reverse judgement. Unfortunately I don't have them pop up enough when I actually need them.

Regardless, I have over ¥800,000 so I'm set for the fox whenever I need it.

[zewone]

I have bad luck with cards for the most part. However on the rare chance I get Judgement and Death, I've gotten them upright every time except for once when I hit a reverse judgement. Unfortunately I don't have them pop up enough when I actually need them.

Regardless, I have over ¥800,000 so I'm set for the fox whenever I need it.

It's based off percentages.

If you haven't done much of the social link, it would cost 400,000. :/

[Draekon]

It's based off percentages.

If you haven't done much of the social link, it would cost 400,000. :/

According to the guide each rank will cost a certain amount per SP to restore and depending on the foxes happiness it will determine whether you get up to 30% increase or decrease in cost.

It's always been 15k for me to restore my SP though since I hit rank 10. When I was at 350k and when I was at 800k.

EDIT: That's when I'm low to next to no SP, when I have about half, it's around 10k and when I'm near full it's ~¥1,000. I can post the chart the guide has if you all want.

[cletus]

I've been having a lot of fun with this game. It's a nice way to end the PS2 lifespan.

I kinda feel sorry for that little girl. She just sits at home all day watching tv while her dad works everyday. Then it turns out she's a s.link. I would have expected hanged man like P3 but for some reason she's Justice. I'm been going through her s.link just to find out why.

Question for anyone that has beaten the game. Is Margaret as 'easy' as Elizabeth? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

[pete5883]

The 4th dungeon has me grinning like an idiot.

[rodeojones903]

I played a bit of Persona 3, but was somewhat turned off/afraid of the time limit. Is it really not as big of a deal as I made it out to be? It just made me feel like I was being rushed through the game and that I would miss story elements and items.